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Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« on: May 09, 2007, 05:06:21 pm »
Was rumored for a few days to be in development, but is now confirmed. Looks like this one will be going down the same path as the Final Fantasy III remake for the DS; same game, new graphics/features (which is ok with me!).

Anything else you hope to see from the game? I have yet to play Final Fantasy IV (I know...it's on my "list"!) but an online mode would be nice.



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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 05:15:27 pm »
No online! NO ONLINE!

Agh! Cecil would lead the Red Wings into a blast furnace before he'd venture online!



What do I want? I want Comet to look badass and I want the some cutscenes. Other than that they will change NOTHING!




Also you need to fire up the emulator and play, just do it. Forget about it being the original experience or whatever, just play it so we can talk about it.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 05:36:57 pm »
Yeah, I'm starting Final Fantasy IV right now. I don't know what the hell you just said, but I want to know, and I want to play the original before playing the remake.

But after that it's A Link to the Past. I've put off the game for far too long!

Curse me for skipping out on the SNES! Here I was preoccupied playing R.C. Pro-Am and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles...not that that's a bad thing. :D

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 05:38:56 pm »
Cecil is the main character of FFIV and he is in charge of the Red Wings, an elite attack force that flies airships and whatnot.

Needless to say, Cecil frowns upon an online FFIV.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2007, 05:51:14 pm »
Red Wings, eh? The first thing that came to my mind was the NHL team...

Well, thanks for the info! Flying airships sound cool. I'm ready for it.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 12:24:21 am »
 :o

My dreams have come true.  Final Fantasy IV has always been my favourite Final Fantasy, seeing it in 3D is just fantastic.  However, I didn't much like the DS remake of III, in my opinion, they stuck too close to the original nes game.  Games that difficult are just stressful, not fun.  I hope with this one they realise they're allowed to actually change things, if it means making the game better.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 07:30:32 am »
I didn't much like the DS remake of III, in my opinion, they stuck too close to the original nes game. 

But the original NES game was never released outside of Japan, so how would you know? ???

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 12:24:59 pm »
People translate ROMs... how do you think we got Mother?

Or maybe Winter can read Japanese.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 04:38:13 pm »
People translate ROMs... how do you think we got Mother?

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You got Mother?


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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 04:40:05 pm »
Yeah... lots of people do.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 04:45:34 pm »
Oh, right...

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Heh, so that would explain why I got Secret of Mana 2 when I could have sworn that the game was never released in the States! :D





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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2007, 02:34:27 am »
I didn't much like the DS remake of III, in my opinion, they stuck too close to the original nes game. 

But the original NES game was never released outside of Japan, so how would you know? ???

Like Pat said, the rom was translated.
My point was, the game was just too hard.  I don't mind challenging games, but level grinding and no save points just isn't fun to me.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2007, 07:10:09 am »
That's probably why it wasn't released outside of Japan. :D

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 12:11:59 pm »
The Japanese trailer!

Hopefully this is good... and a sign that we will get a remake of FFVI sometime soon.

And some stupid stuff too.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2007, 10:14:15 pm »
How cool would it be if Square included an "Enhanced Mode" (what we've seen in the trailers/screenshots) as well as "Classic Mode", which would include all original text and graphics?

It'd never happen, but it would be an incredibly awesome package.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2007, 01:03:20 pm »
Hey, there are some new videos out about this game.

Take a look!


And keep your fingers crossed for a remake of Final Fantasy VI.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2007, 05:27:52 pm »
I was really disappointed with the controls in FFXII for DS, I was expecting something like FFIII for DS. I hope FFIV is better.
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2007, 09:14:17 am »
Looks pretty good. Might get it.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2007, 03:14:18 pm »
Perfect. I had no idea what to get my GF for christmas.

Thanks for the heads-up.   ;D

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2007, 08:31:21 am »
Meh. All Square Enix seems to be doing with these remakes is making all of the male characters look like little girls and adding a bunch of CG cut scenes that add nothing to the game.

For this reason, I hope they stay away from FF6, but I know they're going to milk that cash cow for all it's worth once the time comes.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2007, 09:15:11 am »
I have to agree with you on that one, when I started playing FFXII DS I counfused like at least 3 guys with girls, lol.
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2008, 09:14:24 am »
We've got some more videos out today! Check them out here!

The battle system is looking good and I love the character model for Tellah, they did a good job on him.


**EDIT**
Hey, there's a preview up on GameTrailers! Make sure you look at it, this game looks fantastic!


**EDIT EDIT**
Hey! There's some more videos up! We've got a cool comparison video as well as the opening cinematic. The cinematic doesn't have any spoilers really but the first ones does to some extent.

Anyway, with each remake we come one step closer to a remake of Final Fantasy VI! ;D
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2008, 08:08:13 am »
nice find, i can't wait to play this game!

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2008, 11:13:42 am »
For the remake of Final Fantasy VI, I was hoping it'd be on a big console.
Like... huge.


But whatever. We'll see what happens.
I'm gonna be getting IV anyway soon enough. My SNES cartridge my well be on its way out.  :'(
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2008, 05:20:04 pm »
Meh. All Square Enix seems to be doing with these remakes is making all of the male characters look like little girls and adding a bunch of CG cut scenes that add nothing to the game.

For this reason, I hope they stay away from FF6, but I know they're going to milk that cash cow for all it's worth once the time comes.

They said this would be the last.  The guys that have been remaking them said they wanted to make a new engine and do some brand new stuff on their own now.  Shame, I would have quite liked to see 5 remade as well, that's the only other one that could have benefited from this kind of treatment.  VI is fine as it is.  I definitely agree with your other comment though.  I've just been playing through XII and Vann completely kills the story, it would have been far better, had it simply focused on Basch the whole way through, but apparantly some people can't stand the idea of playing as a character older than 16..

Fortunately, XIII seems to be staying away from this.  We have a 20-something year old female lead, and the rest of the guys we've seen so far don't look too bad either. 

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2008, 10:16:59 am »
Hey, I got it today! It's very very good and a load of fun!

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2008, 12:01:04 pm »
i have to say...the cinematic intro is awesome...and it has my favorite FF song too! yay!

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 12:21:30 pm »
bought the game, played 7/8 hours  and it's a pretty fun!

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 12:25:25 pm »
why is edward so useles? if at least his healing song was somewhat usefull i would ignore it but he is horribly useles

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2008, 02:06:19 pm »
Edward is amazingly helpful! You just have to level him up a bit... if there is one gripe about FFIV, it's that they dump low level characters on you constantly (Wait until you get to Mt. Ordeals). At least the game makes it easy to get characters to around the same levels fairly quickly.

Still, his healing song is so great, it's a no-cost regen spell. Also his sleep and confuse melodies are very helpful. He also does a decent amount of damage.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2008, 02:31:52 pm »
I want this but I have no time to go out and get it.
Argh.

Good quality though, yes? Nice work?
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #31 on: July 24, 2008, 02:32:56 pm »
oh i didnt know that the heal spell was regen and not just single shot...

and i agree with the spells being usefull but most enemies you encounter are too weak to really have use of them and they wont work on bosses

and on top of that he dies super fast...


and yes gauph...i like this one allot more than 3

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #32 on: July 24, 2008, 03:09:54 pm »
3 felt so unrewarding.
And I was only around the beginning.
Phooey.

Also, I just picked up a copy of IV. Had an opportunity to go to the store.
Guess I'll play this 'til I go to work.
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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2008, 03:22:03 pm »
its much easier and you barely have to level

and the story actualy makes sense now...


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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2008, 04:01:44 pm »
its much easier and you barely have to level

You should be eating those words soon enough.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2008, 08:13:21 pm »
I played this on the Play station. I sucked.

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I became the paladin and all, but one i got back to my old castle i could never fight the duke/chancellor who turned into a demon. He would ALWAYS destroy me....
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2008, 09:10:04 am »
i just beat scarmisomething and a i cant believe i did it on the first try

all my party members are dead cept for palom who level'd 6 times O.o

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2008, 05:52:47 pm »
Haha I just got this game. It's great.

Although I wonder what everybody's Whyt looks like? :D

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2008, 11:13:29 pm »
(Seeing how this is the most popular FF thread atm)

Whats the deal? Does time go by in each game? I mean, how come 13 is all about guns and future when 9 is still in airships and 1 is still swords and magic. Is there an actual reason to it? Are all the games connected or seperate? If they are all seperate why keep the name like its a sequel? Can they not stick to one thing and have to jump around generations in each game? Jeez FF confuses me.
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« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2008, 11:33:06 pm »
They're all unrelated, simple as that. :)

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2008, 05:05:11 pm »
Each has a different story and whatnot. Some keep the same basic principles of combat. Some have the same monsters. Almost all have Cid being a leader of airships.

But all are unrelated. Think of it all as alternate universes.

I just bought the English version of this game. I had bought the Japanese version last year for someone, but didn't get a chance to play it.

I'm enjoying it. Edward just joined the brawl... erm... party. Though I seem to have lost that Sage.
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2008, 05:50:17 pm »
They're not all unrelated. Have you all have purged your memory of X-2? Not to mention Tactics Advance, 12, Revenant Wings and Tactics Advance 2, or the four Crystal Chronicles games.
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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2008, 02:41:36 pm »
I'm at the final part of the game now, and have pretty much loved it.  It's probably too similar to the original version though, I didn't expect much to be changed, but I knew how to do, and get pretty much everything, and with the treasure appearing on the bottom map now, it makes it even easier to find a lot of the hidden equipment. 

My biggest issue is the augment system though..  being able to use the abilities of characters who leave your team is great, but you can only use new game plus mode, three times, and you need all of those play throughs to make your characters perfect, there's no room for error.  Unless you know exactly when you should use them, and on who, there's no chance you're going to get it right.  If you've played through the game before, I'd recommend just looking at GameFaqs for augment guide, but if you haven't, then it's going to give you spoilers, so you're pretty much stuck.   :-\   Seems like a terrible idea.

I wouldn't be put off because of III though, this game actually has a decent amount of save points and helpful items, and the story and characters are far more fleshed out.  It was really the first "true" Final Fantasy game.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2008, 12:34:16 am »
It was really the first "true" Final Fantasy game.

You call it "True" because you're comparing it to the Sony games.

But what makes something "true"? It having similar features as the new ones? I consider it to be true when it is like the old games.

Or do you just say something is "true" whenever it is like the games you prefered?

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2008, 04:28:39 am »
I guess it was the first "good" Final Fantasy game... but to be honest I haven't played II. People have told me that it is the worst one though.

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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2008, 09:21:17 am »
I thought II was the worst of the "old games".

I like referring to 1-6 as the "old games" because I say the newer ones start at VII. That's just me but whatever.

But yeah I thought II was horrible. It had more story, but it was incredibly boring to play. 

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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2008, 12:29:40 pm »
FFI was enjoyable. But there was only one way to beat the final boss... Black Wizard(s).

FFII wasn't too bad, in my opinion. Characters didn't have classes. You had them use weapons or cast spells until they got good at them. Then that was their "class". Story wasn't bad. But I can see how some people would say it's boring.

III of course was good. I don't know why people complain about it so much.

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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2008, 02:49:07 pm »
I liked the job system in III.

I thought that V's job system was the best though.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2008, 07:31:03 pm »
Isn't V the same as the IV released for the DS? I forget how the transition worked.

I know the III for the DS was the version never released in the US back then.

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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2008, 08:29:00 pm »
The US decided to make sense of the names.

III is III.

IV is IV.

V is V.

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« Reply #50 on: August 05, 2008, 04:39:34 am »
It was really the first "true" Final Fantasy game.

You call it "True" because you're comparing it to the Sony games.

But what makes something "true"? It having similar features as the new ones? I consider it to be true when it is like the old games.

Or do you just say something is "true" whenever it is like the games you prefered?

Yes, I meant "true" as in it's the first game in the series that has a real story and character development, and people will recognise as a Final Fantasy game.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2008, 09:45:27 pm »
I absolutely HATE Barbariccia.

That is all.

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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2008, 10:17:19 pm »
You are correct!

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #53 on: August 15, 2008, 05:40:32 am »
cast slow >.>

slow is your friend <.<

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #54 on: August 15, 2008, 12:19:23 pm »
I cannot get past the fight with Golbez after the dolls.

I hate when he uses Thundara/Blizzara/Fira three times in a row right after I use a pheonix down. Seriously wtf.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #55 on: August 15, 2008, 02:06:50 pm »
Yeah that was a very tough battle. The only thing I can say is that you shouldn't expect to fight it at full health or with all of your characters alive. You'll be on the ropes the whole time. It can be done though, just make sure you are using Libra or something to figure out which element Golbez is weak toward. Also slow the game down a bit if you can't react quickly enough. Finally, set the battle mode to wait instead of active for a very big advantage.

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« Reply #56 on: August 15, 2008, 02:10:00 pm »
well i couldnt get passed him either

then i cast slow on him with rosa before she died...then it was cake

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #57 on: August 15, 2008, 03:23:21 pm »
Yeah that was a very tough battle. The only thing I can say is that you shouldn't expect to fight it at full health or with all of your characters alive. You'll be on the ropes the whole time. It can be done though, just make sure you are using Libra or something to figure out which element Golbez is weak toward. Also slow the game down a bit if you can't react quickly enough. Finally, set the battle mode to wait instead of active for a very big advantage.

I can react quickly enough, and I've got it set to Wait Mode. My characters just aren't fast enough I guess.

Also I guess you're right about the "don't expect to have full health and more than two party members alive" thing. I kinda expected that I could, because I do in almost every other boss battle.

then i cast slow on him with rosa before she died...then it was cake

I should do that.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #58 on: August 16, 2008, 02:32:51 pm »
Golbez is ridiculous.

I cast slow on him right away.

He kills everyone but Cecil.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia rez 2 people. Golbez casts an AOE to kill the two just rezzed.

Cecil and Rydia die due to damage from the AOE's.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #59 on: August 16, 2008, 03:28:26 pm »
What level are you?

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« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2008, 04:58:48 pm »
your doing it wrong! rez then heal...not just rez

you need to do it one by one...

one heals...one rezes

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2008, 05:01:45 pm »
If you want to level Rosa up to 55, she'll learn Arise.

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« Reply #62 on: August 20, 2008, 04:18:03 pm »
If you want to level Rosa up to 55, she'll learn Arise.

This will help me majorly. Thank you.

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« Reply #63 on: August 20, 2008, 04:23:36 pm »
If you want to level Rosa up to 55, she'll learn Arise.

This will help me majorly. Thank you.

have fun grinding for a year :P

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« Reply #64 on: August 20, 2008, 04:25:28 pm »
At least they cut back on the grinding in this game.

I had to use cheats on FFIII.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #65 on: August 21, 2008, 12:27:22 pm »
Now how do you leave the Giant of Babil?

I was able to re-defeat the four archfiends inside... But the CPU just absolutely destroys me. I know the whole strategy for this fight, I simply just can't do it at the level my characters are.

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« Reply #66 on: August 21, 2008, 01:46:31 pm »
To beat the CPU you have to get lucky. My party was in their 70s when I fought it and they would still get wiped at random. Try to slow it down with a spider's web and then take out the node on the right side (I think that's the one that heals). Next take out the CPU and finally kill off the left node. If you kill the nodes off the CPU will do an instant death attack, killing your party.

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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2008, 10:45:50 am »
Now how do you leave the Giant of Babil?

I was able to re-defeat the four archfiends inside... But the CPU just absolutely destroys me. I know the whole strategy for this fight, I simply just can't do it at the level my characters are.

I assume you know, but.. Ignore FuSoya, he lies.   :P

It just comes down to luck really, the boss has the ability to outright kill you instantly if it wants, you just have to hope that won't happen.  But if you really don't think you're strong enough, go back to were the merchent is on the previous floor and just level up a little.

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Re: Final Fantasy IV (DS)
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2008, 11:01:53 am »
You're about a week late there.

So Bahamut was a lot easier than the road up to him made it out to be. Bahamoths were a pain to kill seeing as I couldn't run from them. Counter attacks, Maelstrom, High HP. Bahamut was easier.

Now in the crystl palace place again. Went in. Got a bit into it. Opened a chess and some red dragon attacked. Didn't seem like much of a problem till it did some laser attack that killed 3 guys instantly, and the last 2 couldn't do anything but heal themselves after attacked which happend far too often even with the dragon slowed.