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(UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« on: July 11, 2005, 12:23:09 pm »
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Rockstar has denied that the "Hot Coffee" pornographic mini-game, which is enabled by a mod for Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, is actually a part of the game, after it became the subject of an investigation by the ESRB in North America.

So Rockstar has finally made a statement, and apparently, they are trying to put the blame on the mod. I think it's time for those politicians to stop hagging this topic.

Read complete article -> http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=10032

Original Source: Gamespot ->  http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/gta4/news_6128759.html
« Last Edit: July 11, 2005, 12:25:11 pm by Secret|Service »


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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2005, 12:29:19 pm »
I knew they would denie it.

Someone will eventually get someone to take apart the 'hot coffee' mod and see if it added the minigame or if it just activated the minigame.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2005, 12:36:03 pm »
Somehow i doubt this.  But whatever, i don't really see the problem.  The game is rated Mature in America, and 18+ across Europe.  What's the problem?

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2005, 01:02:50 pm »
Somehow i doubt this.  But whatever, i don't really see the problem.  The game is rated Mature in America, and 18+ across Europe.  What's the problem?
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2005, 01:10:30 pm »
I did, i still don't get the problem.  Steve makes an excellent point when he says the Sims features sex, nudity, and death and is rated for teens or something or other.  GTA is rated 17+, where people are mature enough to be having sex and know what it is like. 

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2005, 01:29:45 pm »
Yea, but kids get their hands on this stuff anyways.
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2005, 01:31:27 pm »
That's not the company's fault, that's the parents.  Pornography is 18+, kids still get their hands on it - does that mean a lawsuit or whatnot should be filed against the porn industry?  No.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2005, 01:40:37 pm »
Yea, but I people think that you shouldn't hid stuff like that in the first place.
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2005, 01:51:07 pm »
I don't care what "people" think.  Rockstar Games did NOTHING wrong.  It isn't illegal to be tasteless.  And that is all this little thing is - tastelessness and immaturity on the part of Rockstar Games.  Sorry... i just cannot stand these people who come along and point the finger at video games.  I played video games non stop as a kid, and i'm not so bad.  I do not put myself being irritable, forceful, or strong-willed down to computer games.  A kid should know the difference between video game and real life.  Most do, and if they do not then they will end up being weird and anti-social anyway.

In my opinion, books are worse!  I've read some pretty sickening/twisted stuff in novels - and there isn't an age necessity required for them!

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2005, 01:54:26 pm »
Yea, I don't blame Rockstar, this is just complementary to Steve's podcast and the whole controversy.
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2005, 01:55:56 pm »
Heh, yeah i'm not attacking you or anything - just using this thread as a way to vent my frustration at the situation, because there really is nothing to it.

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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2005, 01:57:48 pm »

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2005, 02:00:03 pm »
Lol, nah not quite like that - it would ruin my hair ;).

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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2005, 02:02:06 pm »
Glue them back   :P
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2005, 02:28:56 pm »
Well the whole problem with the mod is the game is rated M and the esrb also had
  • Nlood and Gore
  • Intense Voilence
  • Strong Language
  • Strong Sexual Content
  • Use of Drugs
If the footage was put in the game and left then they would of had Sex and maybe Nudity which with all that would bump it up to a NR/AO rating.

Mature is 17+ but i'm only 16 and I got a copy, but if it was NR/AO then I probably wouldn't have gotten my hands on a copy ever. People take the NR/AO rating alot more series. I was playing Mortal combat back when I was 6 and that was rated M back then.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2005, 02:55:33 pm »
Well the whole problem with the mod is the game is rated M and the esrb also had
  • Nlood and Gore
  • Intense Voilence
  • Strong Language
  • Strong Sexual Content
  • Use of Drugs
If the footage was put in the game and left then they would of had Sex and maybe Nudity which with all that would bump it up to a NR/AO rating.

Mature is 17+ but i'm only 16 and I got a copy, but if it was NR/AO then I probably wouldn't have gotten my hands on a copy ever. People take the NR/AO rating alot more series. I was playing Mortal combat back when I was 6 and that was rated M back then.

People go into pubs and drink underage all over England.  That doesn't make the breweries responsible for putting alcohol in their beers - that's the fault of the barmen who serve the people.

In this context, we could say that it isn't Rockstar's problem, it's the companies which sell these "Mature" games to people who are not deemed of the right age.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2005, 04:16:30 pm »
I COMPLETELY agree with you, Lord Janos. Anyway, its not like its a normal part of the game, you'd have to actively seek out to download and install a modification to show this stuff.
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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2005, 06:25:16 pm »
See... my problem is that the only way you can access this is via a third party mod. So parents (Or atleast parents that get this game for their kinds and for some very odd reason worry about them seeing sex and disregard the other things in the game) don't have to worry about their kid seeing the sexual content.


Bah... those stupid watchdog groups need to be stopped... or atleast think some of their attacks through a bit more...


But the game is rated M and that means 17 and older... so if someone younger is playing the game the game the parents have noone else to blame but themselves...


Kind of went off topic... sorry.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2005, 06:26:33 pm »
GTA is rated 17+, where people are mature enough to be having sex and know what it is like. 

You'd be surprised.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2005, 02:36:49 pm »
I say there's nothing to get upset about, this really doesn't effect our lives in any way.
We will always be able to choose what we want to buy, whether or not it's approved by conservatives.
I think it's a good thing that they don't want 12-year olds buying pornographic games.
That's really all the conservatives are trying to do, make it more difficult for kids to buy this stuff.
They know they can't stop these games from being MADE, but they can help stop kids from buying it.
I'm all for it, it provides balance. Personally I love violence & sex in games, & since I'm 21, I know I can always buy it.
I don't think kids should be able to buy porn straight up, even though when I was 12 I got it anyway, I had to TRY HARDER.
There's really nothing wrong with that.

Conservatives will always be making new rules, and kids will always be finding ways around them.

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2005, 02:54:49 pm »
Well, in Minneapolis you'll be hard pressed to find a copy of GTA:SA. They've all been pulled off the shelves of the major retailers because they have a strict 'No Adult Oriented' policy. I did notice that the local book store had a few copies of 1984 for sale however. :)

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Re: (UPDATE!) Rockstar DENIES Sex in GTA:SA
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2005, 03:04:38 pm »
I say there's nothing to get upset about, this really doesn't effect our lives in any way.
We will always be able to choose what we want to buy, whether or not it's approved by conservatives.

Unless you live in Australia, or unless the conservatives where you live manage to enact draconian anti-game-violence laws or the like.