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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #135 on: January 18, 2007, 07:05:35 pm »
Why would I mount a fake on my wall? It's just pointless...

No history behind it, nothing to be proud of, and if I ever did want to shoot it I wouldn't be able to.
Lots of stuff in museums are actually replicas, they often keep the real stuff out back.

Don't you have anything of sentimental value? Perhaps something handed down through generations of your family?

If you do, then would you like it if I replaced it with a replica?
What if one day you found out that your great-great-great-grandma's priceless whatevermajig was actually a cheap replica? Would it diminish the sentimental value?

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #136 on: January 18, 2007, 07:35:05 pm »
Why would I mount a fake on my wall? It's just pointless...

No history behind it, nothing to be proud of, and if I ever did want to shoot it I wouldn't be able to.

Don't you have anything of sentimental value? Perhaps something handed down through generations of your family? Something unique that your grandfather picked up in France during WWII? A souvineer from someplace that you've been to? A last gift from someone you loved who died?

If you do, then would you like it if I replaced it with a replica?

What if you had a key component removed so it didn't actually fire? The gun retains it's history it was in a great many battle your ansestors are honored and no body is needlessly injured by the gun ever again.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #137 on: January 18, 2007, 07:36:05 pm »
What if you had a key component removed so it didn't actually fire? The gun retains it's history it was in a great many battle your ansestors are honored and no body is needlessly injured by the gun ever again.

That seems fine to me. The knowledge that the gun has actually been fired before seems more important than being able to fire again.
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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #138 on: January 18, 2007, 07:50:43 pm »
That's a good compromise, but deactivated guns can often be reactivated. That's where most of the black-market guns in the UK come from.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #139 on: January 18, 2007, 07:54:38 pm »
I'm sure you should fill the barrel or something.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #140 on: January 18, 2007, 10:15:10 pm »
That's a good compromise, but deactivated guns can often be reactivated. That's where most of the black-market guns in the UK come from.
Yeah, when semi-auto shotguns became restricted here, my friend had to get his modified so it could only hold a certain amount of shells at once (3 or 4 i think, instead of 6 or 7), but he got it modified in such a way that he could easily reverse it. This way, he could be out hunting ducks with 7 shots at the ready, then if he sees a ranger, he could just pump out 4 shells, insert a pin into the magazine, and viola, its legal again...

If you cemented the barrel it would be a lot harder to undo tho ;D

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #141 on: January 20, 2007, 12:27:19 pm »
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If you cemented the barrel it would be a lot harder to undo tho ;D
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A man runs in to a bank holding a gun demanding money or he'll start killing people. Who is going to stop and check to see if the barrel is plugged? How would you feel safer when you cannot tell if the weapon is functional or not? People see a gun and the fear for their lives, be it real or not.

BTW, Barrels are easy to replace. To render a weapon truely useless required the barrel and receiver to be heavily damaged (usually via some sort of a welding process).

So long at 1/4" and 3/4" pipe is for sale, you'll need to worry about guns folks. Next up.. outlaw pipe!

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #142 on: January 20, 2007, 09:06:44 pm »
A friend and I made a blunderbuss out of a 1/2" diameter steel pipe.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #143 on: January 21, 2007, 04:27:31 am »
Manufacturing firearms sounds like terrorist activity to me.
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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #144 on: January 21, 2007, 04:30:01 am »
That's gone and reminded me of the Anarchist's Cookbook or whatever it was. I remember reading it didn't actually get banned outright because though it gave instructions to do dangerous stuff, it never actually espoused any anti-government views. Dunno how correct that is...

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #145 on: January 21, 2007, 08:39:17 am »

BTW, Barrels are easy to replace. To render a weapon truely useless required the barrel and receiver to be heavily damaged (usually via some sort of a welding process).


Then just do that! Easy-peasy.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #146 on: January 21, 2007, 01:42:46 pm »
That's gone and reminded me of the Anarchist's Cookbook or whatever it was. I remember reading it didn't actually get banned outright because though it gave instructions to do dangerous stuff, it never actually espoused any anti-government views. Dunno how correct that is...

It isn't banned but having a copy of the PDF on your HDD is enough to render you a threat in most countries. Seeing as how you only need circumstantial evidence to detain someone as being suspected of terrorist activities (such as a painter having lots of tins of paint in his garage...obviously a terrorist) ny form of half-assed training such as the anarchist's cookbook is gonna look bad.
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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #147 on: January 21, 2007, 01:44:55 pm »
Especialy if youre the sort of knucklehead they interviewed in Bowling for Columbine.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #148 on: January 21, 2007, 02:27:17 pm »
I unsuprisingly have a copy. (No, I haven't mixed up a couple drums o' nay-pawm or made a fertilizer bomb.)

Manufacturing firearms sounds like terrorist activity to me.

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Re: Guns! (and other things that go boom) (and of course the brown note)
« Reply #149 on: April 16, 2007, 03:12:23 pm »
If a person commits a crime of passion/a non-premeditated crime (which incidentally we cannot rule out in this case), keeping guns illegal will mean that they won't just be able to pick up a gun and kill a bunch of people in some lunatic rage.

Oh, but you can kill *just as many people* with a knife.  ::)
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