Author Topic: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop  (Read 115111 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline LadyM

  • Moderator
  • Mortal Kombat Konqueror
  • *****
  • Posts: 11112
  • I'm not confused anymore
    • View Profile
    • LadyMpire
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #45 on: March 15, 2007, 09:31:38 pm »
This thread looks as good as any to post my question.

Which is better?
AMD® Athlon 64 X2 5000+ AM2   OR   AMD Athlon 64 FX62 5400+ AM2?
There doesn't appear to be much difference.

Thanks

Offline SBD

  • Duck Hunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3071
  • It stands for Ship-Borne Dive bomber, people.
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #46 on: March 16, 2007, 07:24:11 pm »
Well from the AMD site, the 5000+ runs at 2.6Ghz and has a 1Mg cache, while the FX-62 runs at 2.8Ghz and has a 2Mg cache. I really don't know what the cache does but either way the FX-62 is better.

I still reckon we should sticky this and make it a general hardware/upgrading topic.

Offline Fatalfist

  • Crazy Climber Cuckoo
  • **
  • Posts: 137
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #47 on: March 16, 2007, 07:26:27 pm »
the biggist difference is probly the price :)

Offline Didero

  • Turkey Shoot Terminator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3196
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #48 on: March 17, 2007, 02:56:12 am »
Well from the AMD site, the 5000+ runs at 2.6Ghz and has a 1Mg cache, while the FX-62 runs at 2.8Ghz and has a 2Mg cache. I really don't know what the cache does but either way the FX-62 is better.

I still reckon we should sticky this and make it a general hardware/upgrading topic.
CPU cache is a small amount of very fast, but expensive memory close to the CPU, that the CPU uses to store some values it needs again soon. The bigger the cache, the less the CPU has to write data to the RAM, and the faster it is. I don't know exactly how much difference it makes, but more is better :)

Offline PatMan33

  • Fable Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 28788
  • M I RITE? STICKERS?
    • View Profile
    • DuckDuckGo
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #49 on: March 17, 2007, 07:52:33 am »
The CPU Cache amounts change like regular memory amounts change.

1, 2, 4, 8, etc...


And as Didero said, even though the difference is small, it makes a huge difference.

Offline Danzik

  • Gyruss Gyrusian
  • *****
  • Posts: 2748
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #50 on: March 17, 2007, 11:57:51 am »
Defiantly the  AMD Athlon 64 FX62 5400+ AM2 for performance.  However considering the rather large price difference, I'd say go with the 5000+

Offline Slartibartfast

  • Ballblazer Plasmorb
  • *****
  • Posts: 3472
  • Do they speak English in What?
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2007, 01:35:55 am »
My girlfriend told me she is getting one of her computer savvy friends to build me a computer for my birthday.
Her parts budget is $1000, but I'm willing to kick in 2-3 hundred.   
I'm supposed to met with them Sunday and tell them what my requirements are, but I'm a computer illiterate.
What should I tell them?   ???

This is the price estimate list her friend gave her:
Case $60 without power supply
Power Supply $30
Floppy $12
DVD (2) $60
Dual Core Motherboard $200
Cooling Fans $80
Soundcard $40
Video Graphics card $200
Harddrive $70
Ram $160

Note: She has seperate budget for peripherals and the monitor.

I intend to play Spore and a MMORPG (either WoW or Age of Conan), but I want to be able to play whatever I want for, at least, the next two years without worrying about it.

Offline Celdur

  • R-Type Force Pod
  • *****
  • Posts: 6615
  • :33
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2007, 03:47:23 am »
why cant i have a girlfriend like that?

Quote from: Krakow sam
That quote is actualy very witty, Celdur. I suggest you use that in your signature.

Offline SBD

  • Duck Hunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3071
  • It stands for Ship-Borne Dive bomber, people.
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2007, 03:59:13 am »
Why can't Ladym sticky this thread already?

Offline LadyM

  • Moderator
  • Mortal Kombat Konqueror
  • *****
  • Posts: 11112
  • I'm not confused anymore
    • View Profile
    • LadyMpire
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2007, 06:14:40 am »
Why can't Ladym sticky this thread already?

Because she forgot. SBD asked that this thread be stickied for all of us who need help and advice in buying a new PC or upgrading our current one.

Offline PatMan33

  • Fable Hero
  • *****
  • Posts: 28788
  • M I RITE? STICKERS?
    • View Profile
    • DuckDuckGo
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2007, 07:07:49 am »
Could you do a trade then?

You sticky one thread and unsticky another?




Offline SBD

  • Duck Hunter
  • *****
  • Posts: 3071
  • It stands for Ship-Borne Dive bomber, people.
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #56 on: April 11, 2007, 03:47:07 am »
You know you've made it when one of your threads get stickied.  ;D

Offline Slartibartfast

  • Ballblazer Plasmorb
  • *****
  • Posts: 3472
  • Do they speak English in What?
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #57 on: April 11, 2007, 04:41:25 am »
That reminds me; thanks for the help

Offline Solaren

  • Atari Combat Vet
  • *
  • Posts: 12
    • View Profile
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #58 on: April 15, 2007, 02:41:11 pm »
Ok, here's where I am.  I'm definitely getting a gaming laptop.  Yes, I know all the problem inherent with that, but it's what I'm doing.  Due to heat restrictions and whatnot I'm getting a 17"er.  From what I've read about the nvidia geforce go 7950 vs the ati mobile radeon mx1800, I'm probably going to go with an nvidia machine. (if someone here is wiser than I in this area and wishes to convince me otherwise, I'm ready to learn).
That brings me to the last part.  the geforce has an additional option that isn't available on the radeon and that is, 256mb vs 512mb.  My question is this:  I've been told that 512 really is overkill and not necessary, although logically it should be better.  What can I actually do with a 512 that a 256 won't handle?  Should I go the extra expense for the 512 or just go with the 256?

This machine is going to need to last an absolute minimum of 2 years and preferably 3+.  That's how long my desktop lasted and I can't upgrade it any more because of the board (I went middle of the road those years ago).

Offline LadyM

  • Moderator
  • Mortal Kombat Konqueror
  • *****
  • Posts: 11112
  • I'm not confused anymore
    • View Profile
    • LadyMpire
Re: Advice on buying or building a PC or Laptop
« Reply #59 on: April 15, 2007, 02:51:50 pm »
I game on a laptop and I have an HP Pavillion with AMD Athlon 64 3500+ with an ATI Radeon Xpress 200 series and 2G of ram. It's now about a year and a half old. The video card cannot handle KOTOR but it will handle everything else just fine. I think Nvidia is the way to go if you can get it. If you can afford to get the top model with the better card and memory, I would do that. You can't change the video card later so you should get the best you can. I would also get the most memory you can. That way your prepared for whatever comes out in the next 3 years. They other advice I have is to get the biggest hard drive you can. I had 100 GB and I have 10 GB left. I wish I had triple that. Hope that helps a little.

I'm going to merge this with the thread in the sticky list since it is for computer buying advice.