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Offline NoobZoRz

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Dyson Spheres
« on: June 08, 2005, 09:36:29 pm »
Has anyone mentioned anything about building these? They're planet and solar system-sized artificial constructs that are, essentially super planets. (felt like explaining it, sry sci-fi aficionados)

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2005, 09:39:32 pm »
I wondered this as well. Perhaps at super-high levels of the intergalactic stage you can get a planet editor, or a solar system editor.
That would be pretty cool, to make ring worlds, dyson spheres, etc...
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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2005, 09:46:17 pm »
Will should at least add the possibility of ring worlds around planets. (design it yourself in the building editor!)
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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2005, 10:55:36 pm »
honestly i would think that to be just too much
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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2005, 12:20:06 am »
A Dyson sphere might be the ultimate protection for a angorophobic (or hopelessley violent) species.
Think about it, the sphere would emit no light from the star and could be shielded to keep in the EM. There's no way a civilization could find you. (especially if you have taken a liking to obliterating worlds 8)  )

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2005, 04:37:13 am »
Where would you get that much material to build it? It sounds like it would be a bit pricey. And you wouldn't be able to see the stars.  :(

I think I'll stick to un-Dyson-ed solar systems.

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2005, 05:02:57 am »
that sounds really cool but i dont think it will be included. I do want rings though to go around the planets.

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2005, 07:03:29 am »
Wasn't there mention of a clear Dyson Sphere somewhere? Maybe on a show...

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2005, 10:09:04 am »
A Dyson sphere might be the ultimate protection for a angorophobic (or hopelessley violent) species.
Think about it, the sphere would emit no light from the star and could be shielded to keep in the EM. There's no way a civilization could find you. (especially if you have taken a liking to obliterating worlds 8)  )

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2005, 10:52:23 am »
Dyson spheres need a whole lot of material to make. As in, "more material than it takes to make a few solar systems from scratch" more. It would be at the very end of the tech tree if it is in at all.

Ringworlds would be really neat though, but still cost you a huge chunk of change. Still, they are neat ideas.
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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2005, 11:30:58 am »
Yet the whole point of Dyson Sphere is to give you more energy, and therefore advance technology. But, quite right, you'd have to be extremely advanced to make one, and would probably already have unlimited energy.

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2005, 11:58:35 am »
Well, as I understand the (sci-fi esque) process of construction right, you may not need to necessarily completely envelop the star/planet (Jovian Dyson Spheres might be useful for colonizing Jupiter type worlds), just form a large network of supports around the celestial body of choice. Then, choose a point to construct from and still save cash left over for other projects.
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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2005, 02:25:25 am »
Dyson spheres need a whole lot of material to make. As in, "more material than it takes to make a few solar systems from scratch" more. It would be at the very end of the tech tree if it is in at all.

Ringworlds would be really neat though, but still cost you a huge chunk of change. Still, they are neat ideas.

Not true.  A complete Dyson sphere (assuming, for a minute, that you have some sort of artificial gravity technology to keep the sphere stable and keep people's feet on the ground - you can't spin a Dyson sphere easily) at 1 AU from the star (the distance of the Earth, for a comparable climate, at least to start with), 10 meters thick would require about 2-3 Earths worth of material.  Jupiter's core alone has 6-10 Earths worth of rocky material in it.

Of course, Spore having Dyson spheres is out of the question.  The surface area of a Dyson sphere at Earth's orbit is about 500 BILLION times more than the surface area of the Earth.  So take Wil's little planet, multiply that by 500 billion, and now ask your desktop to simulate it.

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Re: Dyson Spheres
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2005, 10:15:27 am »
Why not limit the Dyson sphere to Jovian planets, after all, how would you colonize them otherwise? I think that if WW were to implement this into the game, he would limit it to a Dyson "swarm", which would be nothing more than an off-world power plant (that was the original function).
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