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Offline nRage

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Building other things?
« on: March 18, 2005, 10:32:10 am »
Hey guys, i'm new to the forums and was wondering a question. Do you think you'll be able to build different things, like lets say chairs, bins or anything else they might use. As most of the pictures i've seen have symbols at the side. Like the pic where he's building a building, it has a window and door icon at the left hand side,  is this so that it knows whats a window and which is a door? I really do hope you can build ANYTHING that your little (or big) creatures will adapt too. You could make playgrounds and park benches or just anything, even plants maybe. Anyway i was just wondering if it anyone knows that you can.

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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2005, 10:36:51 am »
Well, we clearly saw that you could make your buildings look like anything. I'm sure you can make it LOOK like a playground even if it ISN'T. However, the only small-scale stuff we saw was in tribe mode, when he was buying spears and drums and such. I don't know if that's stuff that can be customized: he didn't imply it could be.

I don't think you'll be able to create 'a chair to put in a building', but you could 'reshape a building to include a chair'.

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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2005, 10:56:44 am »
But do you think that you might be able to build anything, not in building mode, but in a sandbox mode, so if you did build a chair, they'd adapt to sit on it. You wouldn't be able to build a playground as it'd be too complexed, but if they can adapt to walk on three legs or to play some drums, why not sit on a chair? This would also depend on the type of creature, as the chair would have to be around the same scale. What do you guys think?

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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2005, 11:34:54 am »
I'm guessing the drum was not a drum per se but a representation as were all things in that period.

A fire = community
music is considered a primative langauge= drum

Its representational of how we think a creature may evolve.  I could be wrong but thats what it looks like to me.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2005, 02:30:17 pm »
Sounds like we have alot of creative minds here at GamingSteve.com  ;D
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2005, 02:59:00 pm »
I think there probably has to be limits somewhere in what you can do though if data is only 1k then that's a lot of data that can be fit into a very small space.

The concept we have seen of the game though so far has always only been a one way zoom. WHat I mean is you start as an omeba, zoom out to a creature in watre, out to a creature on land, out to a group of creatures in a vilage, out to the planet etc etc. You didnd't for example get to zoom out to the village stage from being a single creature on land and then zoom into a building and play with it's contents. If you could then that would open another whole new level to the game as you start playing a Sims type game in each building you create.

I wouldn't put it past Will but it certainly would add a lot more work I think.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2005, 03:19:46 pm »
He clearly stated you could 'zoom out from your city' and 'play it more like civilization', then 'zoom back in and micromanage'. But I doubt he'll let you play with the insides of a building - the insides of buildings are rather outside the scope of the game.

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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2005, 07:20:51 pm »
I don't see why we couldn't customize weapons or drums or fires. If we make something that has three ends none of them are pointy but we still want it to be a weapon, our creature will likely figure out how to kill something with it, just as it learns to walk. I think that we will be able to asign "interactions" to objects and the creatures will figure out what to do with them.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2005, 02:24:47 pm »
I don't see why we couldn't customize weapons or drums or fires. If we make something that has three ends none of them are pointy but we still want it to be a weapon, our creature will likely figure out how to kill something with it, just as it learns to walk. I think that we will be able to asign "interactions" to objects and the creatures will figure out what to do with them.

I think that would be an awesome feature.


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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2005, 02:29:19 pm »
I'll stick with my idea of suicide bombing Coke cans.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2005, 10:32:56 pm »
When will you learn, that the ways of the Jihad only lead to...umm...explosions.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2005, 02:47:39 am »
I don't see why we couldn't customize weapons or drums or fires. If we make something that has three ends none of them are pointy but we still want it to be a weapon, our creature will likely figure out how to kill something with it, just as it learns to walk. I think that we will be able to asign "interactions" to objects and the creatures will figure out what to do with them.

I swear that's already a feature.

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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2005, 03:24:36 am »
Yeah, me too. Just backing it up, some people may have fogotten that the AI is supposed to figure out how to make anything work.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2005, 12:21:23 pm »
Yeah, me too. Just backing it up, some people may have fogotten that the AI is supposed to figure out how to make anything work.

It should be able to figure it out, i mean they couldnt just adapt to it, but if you gave a brief description of what it is and what it does, and also how to work it, it should be able to search it own little dictionary of words and compile the information to figure out what to do, then you could asign interactions.
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Re: Building other things?
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2005, 12:26:38 pm »
Too complex. Will's aiming for simplicity.

There might be something that lets you customize your tribal belongings... but it won't be that complex, if it exists at all.

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