Topic: the U.S.R an escape from the other alliances

[Brutus]

This is the United Socialist Republic

we are completely different,

i would like a few species to know i can befriend when i start up spore, the fact that this is a communist alliance does not mean it will become a capitalism vs communism thread, i have made it communist because i beleive it could work if its done correctly and make for a powerful alliance

here are the points that must be accepted:

Embrace and set up a socialist government and try and spread our brand of socialism to other species

protect any other socialist nations

any member must donate considerable time and funding to their military power

The alliance must act as one

an attack on one member must be treat like an attack on all of them

All technology must be shared and to keep allraces at the same level of technology.

we look forward to talking to you



Join the U.S.R, another way to power!  U.S.R! U.S.R! U.S.R!


Current members: The Mascots (Leader of the Alliance)
                          The Kangorian Empire
                          The Tortullakeets
                          the Huckbucks
                          The Kendra
                          The Frip
                          The Nepnauts
                          The Squaalaaks

[raikitsune]

//Congratulations to the U.S.R. for forming While we are not a socialit goverment we wish them the best in their attempt to found a new alliance.//

[Brutus]

we are thankful you're not offended by a new ideology

[raikitsune]

we are thankful you're not offended by a new ideology

//the universe is kept interesting by diversity, The Isendrai have nothing against Socialism and again we wish you the best of luck and hope your venture turns out to be successful.//

[Brutus]

would you not consider joining?

[HanianKnight]

// The Kangorian Empire is intrigued by this alliance. We are already a member of DUP and that is where our loyalty stands, but if there is a way to make us a lesser member, or just a member with a higher loyalty, than we would gladly join. We could be a member, its just that if rhis group went to war wish a DUP member than we would have to side with DUP//

[Brutus]

// would the other members of DUP be happy with a socialist member?//

great news for the alliance, i've designed a flag. it shows our initials and ideology but i don't have it finished yet, i have asked someone to draw it for me but i won't say there name unless they accept then i'll give them credit

[HanianKnight]

// I've been running a socialist state ever since I joined The DUP. As long as my highest alligence is to DUP I can have any type of government that I please. But as I've stated before my highest loyalty is to DUP, I merely wish to see socialism a power in the Universe.//

[Brutus]

then you are welcome to join, i do not think the dup alliance will matter unless a the dup declare war on us,

Welcome to the U.S.R

here is a draft of our flag, i have yet to get the proper one drawn which will be coloured and much more skillfully drawn (i drew that  one below). . .  do you like it or do you think we should change it?

[HanianKnight]

I think its fine , I just wonder though, do hammers and sickles still mean the same thing for aliens? Aww who cares, I like it.

[Brutus]

the hammer and sickle is the only way i could show our ideology in the flag

[aname]

if money is a factor then socailism only comes with mechanisation. otherwise people have no reason to work if they have a peice taken away. that is why socailism dosen't work. it isn't economic.

[Brutus]

we are going to keep our people working in order to create a powerful empire and we will make our brand of socialism work

[HanianKnight]

well my people have worked under a socialism like enviroment for a while and its been working pretty awsome. But that might be because they dont eat or get tired or age. .

[Brutus]

how do you manage that? drugs? tell me its drugs!? 


i keep my people working due to the fact that my empire is a dictatorship

we need more members

[HanianKnight]

no, you probably havent seen the Kangorian thread but my guys are 100% mechanical. They due to natuaral disaters and the organic bodies inherint weakness( disease, hunger, tiredness, sleep) they put their brain into cyber code and then put the cyber code into mechanized bodies that resemble their organic ones.

[raikitsune]

// the reason the Isendrai would not consider joining a socialist paradise is because our core belief structure is not permissable of an equal share enviroment. We do however applaud those races that can acheeve such a feet. //

[Brutus]

thx raikitsune 

no, you probably havent seen the Kangorian thread but my guys are 100% mechanical. They due to natuaral disaters and the organic bodies inherint weakness( disease, hunger, tiredness, sleep) they put their brain into cyber code and then put the cyber code into mechanized bodies that resemble their organic ones.

my creatures where a mechanical shell because they are very war mongering because they cam to power through overthrowing the old government

[HanianKnight]

hmm. it seems your getting alot of good jobs but no "i wil joins"

[Brutus]

well most people arn't as extreme enough to accept socialism,  i'll have to try harder  we must spread socialism!!

[HanianKnight]

ooc:I just realized how weird the I made my creatures. I created a bunch of hatemongering socialists and Im like the only freedom loving liberal hippie in my town . Creepy

[Brutus]

lol well, once a red, always a red

[Josasa]

Liberals are more for socialism/communism while conservatives are more fascist (dictatorship).

[Josasa]

How come your avatar say "I'm the founder of Spore Communism" but you have an alliance based on socialism?

[Brutus]

woops!

changed it, they're basicly the same thing anyway (please dont take this anyfurther offtopic)

[stuck]

The Ptashki bid thee well in your alliance. However, we are a corparatist state, and so our poitical philosophies conflict.

[Josasa]

woops!

changed it, they're basicly the same thing anyway (please dont take this anyfurther offtopic)

Alright, but one last thing. There are two other alliances that you forgot to mention. They are teh CAB and the SWU...

[Brutus]

but the O.T.H.E.R and the dup are the 2 biggest but if you want i'll add cab and swu

[Josasa]

I don't mind, but the CAB is definately bigger than the DUP, plus the DUP was the youngest alliance until you came.

[HanianKnight]

you should probably go after new races, that are just created.

[Brutus]

yeah i'm trying, could you please help me

[HanianKnight]

I guess, i'll just have to wait until a new creature gets created. ( if it doesnt matter if the creature is cheap, you could always make a second creature )

[Brutus]

aslong as they arn't a bunch of peaceloving hippies, or really cheesy they alowwed in

[TheNecromonicon]

//Hello friends. This is Chairman Nilats, ambassitor for the Tortullakeet and our planet Home. We would like to join the USR and give our ways of agriculture and peace to your benefit. Please reply.Thank you //

[Brutus]

welcome to the U.S.R

[Detoxicated]

//We the Kendra would like to ALLY with the U.S.R. as our people have a socialist like structure. However we belong to the DPU we will help you if you need aid but do not want you to attack or threaten the DUP. If that is okay we can start trading and aid each other in our cause.

[Detoxicated]

if money is a factor then socailism only comes with mechanisation. otherwise people have no reason to work if they have a peice taken away. that is why socailism dosen't work. it isn't economic.

Ehrm, first of all that is why socialism doesnt work for humans, aliens that are completely based on a different biology and ideology will maybe work fine as a socialist clockwork. This is only an online RP here, so dont come with human politics as this will automatically lead to conflict, and basically the only reason i am in this forum is to have fun, therefore keep the politics to a political forum, and i am also very political, i just think it doesnt fit here. Thank you

[Genesis]

The Core is considering joining your grouping, what benefits do you offer?

[firehurtsrealbad]

CCP for ever

[Brutus]

we would love the kendra to join, the U.S.R has no intentions of attacking or being involved in conflict against the DUP and so being a member of that will not conflict

The Core is considering joining your grouping, what benefits do you offer?

you will have the entire alliance preotecting you against an attack , an attack on one member of the alliance is treat like an attack on them all ,  and you get to take full advantage of the socialist ideology, and we are also a way out, all the other alliances are basicly just the same, ours is different

[Detoxicated]

//After a dance of agreement was performed by the Kendra Diplomats the one with the blue headband walked towards the U.S.R. diplomats to state: "We are more than delighted to agree with the U.S.R. Inscribe us in your book as valued members.

[Brutus]

i am so glad the Kendra agrred,

we have now converted 3 civilisations to socialism, the alliance is also growing rather well,

if you wish to join please ask, embrace socialism, you know you want to.

i am now asking if the serlan and the Chrybdul races would like to join the U.S.R as they are two races that i would love to be part of this alliance



Edit: the person i asked to draw the flag does not appear to want to do it as i have received no reply at all in 3 days, would anyone else like to draw the flag for us?

[Dr Dozzy]

if money is a factor then socailism only comes with mechanisation. otherwise people have no reason to work if they have a peice taken away. that is why socailism dosen't work. it isn't economic.

You mean communism aname, we have socialist parties over here in England, such as the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrates. Though I would agree with you in situation, it ain't working.

[Josasa]

if money is a factor then socailism only comes with mechanisation. otherwise people have no reason to work if they have a peice taken away. that is why socailism dosen't work. it isn't economic.

You mean communism aname, we have socialist parties over here in England, such as the Labour Party and the Liberal Democrates. Though I would agree with you in situation, it ain't working.

Another country that is totally run by Socialists is France. That could be why they suck so much....

[Brutus]

the only thing wrong with france is that it's full of frogs 

[werechicken]

// This is/We are The Frip, We seek/request an alliance/pact of freindship, We appologise for confusing/strange method of communication/signalling, our primary technique/method is via pheromones, how do you you respond/reply?//

http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=6220.new#new

[Brutus]

we will gladly accept your offer of an alliance, i will add the frip to the list of members if you find out terms to be acceptable.

[p-luke]

// The Yakhaari have already joined the DUP, and thus we can not join the USR. But we do wish to state that this alliance seems to fit very well with our own ideas, being pacifists. We wish the USR a healthy future. //

I have to say that socialism totally makes sense in the future.. they one thing about socialism that didnt work, was that people did nothing, because they'd get just as much for doing nothing as they'd get for working hard. But once you have droids to do the work, its only so natural to become socialistic. Perhaps the current earthly socialism came way too fast, under the wrong leaders, but the ideology will prove to become more valuable in the future. Especially when a country becomes over-populated, or when there's more people then jobs.

edit: not that this is gonna convince anyone.. after the cold war (which was about money) everyone seems to think they have to fear socialism, or communism.

[Josasa]

// The Yakhaari have already joined the DUP, and thus we can not join the USR. But we do wish to state that this alliance seems to fit very well with our own ideas, being pacifists. We wish the USR a healthy future. //

I have to say that socialism totally makes sense in the future.. they one thing about socialism that didnt work, was that people did nothing, because they'd get just as much for doing nothing as they'd get for working hard. But once you have droids to do the work, its only so natural to become socialistic. Perhaps the current earthly socialism came way too fast, under the wrong leaders, but the ideology will prove to become more valuable in the future. Especially when a country becomes over-populated, or when there's more people then jobs.

edit: not that this is gonna convince anyone.. after the cold war (which was about money) everyone seems to think they have to fear socialism, or communism.

Socialism is different than communism. Socialism is a milder form of communism and it can work (they have it in France as we've already talked about before in this thread, and while alot of people don't like the French they have a working socialist economy/government). Communism, on the other hand, won't work because people will always be wanting more, and communism won't be able to give the people more. It limits a person's expansion and humanity as a whole want to be free. Communism will never work for humanity.

[Brutus]

true communism and socialism are very similar, some confuse them as being the same, its just one is a li'l bit more extreme than the other and then you have the differences between each countrys brand of socialism/communism,

[Josasa]

true communism and socialism are very similar, some confuse them as being the same, its just one is a li'l bit more extreme than the other and then you have the differences between each countrys brand of socialism/communism,

Yeah i understand that, but in socialism you can still have privately owned companies and that's what sets it apart from communism. With communism there is now privately owned companies in fear that it will overrun the government projects.

[Brutus]

the alliance is growing nicley, but i still need someone to redraw our flag for me, would anyone like to do it?

[Hunter]

The Squaalaaks happily join the socialist

[Brutus]

hurray for socialism.

[Huckbuck]

The Huckbucks joins the U.S.R!

[Snake]

Can the genvor join when the genvor reachs space? They'll be evolving so they won't look as main-stream

http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=6757.0

[Chaosdwarft]

a note about the USR flag: loose the hammer and the anvil, thats communist and use the rose.

As soon as I get to the UFO stage i willl gladly join your alliance. For now they are at a tribal stage fornicating and hitting each other with sticks.

[Huckbuck]

the alliance is growing nicley, but i still need someone to redraw our flag for me, would anyone like to do it?

Ive made one, but i warn you, its not that good.



It gives an idea of how it could look.

[Chaosdwarft]

loose the hammer and theanvil, those are communist symbols; socialist symbol is the rose: beautiful, harmonious and able to defend itself thx to its spikes.

[HanianKnight]

//*A sudden Comm-link channel opens. A Green Kangorian's face appears.*

"Hello U.S.R. I am Kangor. I have a very special message for you. I understand that you have a bit of tension with the DUP over their polocies of getting new members.I would like to offer you a permanent solution to your problems. One that could only benefeit you in the end.

Join me and destroy the DUP for good. we could sedn their pathetic members to hell and you would only benefeit. I have amassed the army, I have gained allies, but now I want your help. My allies are too numerous to name here, but you could be added to the list.

Send me a message if your interested in becoming a true power in the Universe.//