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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2007, 07:56:28 pm »
I just got back from the movie...

I went in thinking it would be one of those movies that was fun to watch but nothing special. Holy crap, it was one of the better movies that I've seen in my whole life. The action was amazing, the humor was spot on and very funny, and the CGI was dazzling. Even the story made some sense which was the total opposite from what I expected.

SEE THIS MOVIE.

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2007, 08:20:33 pm »
SEE THIS MOVIE.

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #32 on: July 04, 2007, 12:11:22 pm »
Spoiler Free Review with vague descriptions of stuff

I saw it last night and going in I had very low expectations for it. It started off good, but then it sorta just went flat. The movie could have been cut down a lot. Then I kept finding problems with things people did in the movie, like someone riding a motorcycle towards a giant robot while it's being shot at with missiles. Or when one of the robots is chasing someone in a building, why that robot just didn't smash the building completely down, or when that person is finally on the roof why they climb on the edge of the building making him even easier to be destroyed?

This one was not for me.
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #33 on: July 04, 2007, 09:12:36 pm »
Well, I just got back from seeing this and Live Free or Die Hard in the same sitting. Now, they're both action movies at heart, so I'll compare the two on that point. The action in Transformers was cooler and more visceral, but at least in LFoDH, I could tell what the heck was happening.

Now see, I grew up as a Transformers fan. I watched the TV show, I owned the toys, and the movie was the only one I rented from our town's first video store. I always liked the basic idea behind aliens that take the form of human vehicles and technology to hide among us and pursue their own goals, be they benevolent or insidious. But despite all this, I never was a hardcore fanboy of the franchise, and I never really understood the mythology behind the saga. I pretty much knew that Optimus Prime was the hero leader of the good-guy Autobots and Megatron was the villain and leader of the evil Decepticons. Beyond that, I could've cared less as a kid.

Because of that attitude, I think I was able to love this movie rather than hate it like the hardcore fanboy faction. I can dig the new designs, which are much cooler and more alien and awe-inspiring than the cartoon ones, and I can deal with the overall irrelevance to the larger Transformers mythology since I never really cared for it in the first place. Prime and Megatron and the basic plot of the Cybertronian War are probably the simplest examples of Shakespearean characters and plot. They're timeless and their personalities, ideologies, and the conflict can be placed anywhere and still be just as entertaining.

So, this movie is no exception. It is unashamedly cheesy, much like the cartoon seems to me now. It uses the Transformers as both dramatic and comedic characters, which works quite well to get that tongue-in-cheek feel of the film. The lines are more often than not corny and unrealistic, but that all fits with the charm of the movie. The characters are paper-thin and the lack of development is unsurprising, given both the characterization Michael Bay is known for and the unimpressive source material given to us. However, the best characters in the film are not the humans, oddly, but the Autobots and the Decepticons. Why? Because I already knew them from the cartoon and understood the archetypes they were based on. Also, logic in this movie took a backseat to just getting us to the action.

And how was the action? Well, it was actually pretty incredible. Industrial Light and Magic now reign supreme, even above WETA with this marvelous achievement. Every punch, every firing weapon, and every time a Transformer goes flying looks and feels totally real. There's a real sense of weight and balance conveyed in the animation. I saw Transformers overbalancing after a missed move, compensating for weapon recoil, and basically appearing to be real, physical beings rather than CGI special effects. They look totally real and I was in awe at the appearances.

The problem, however, is in the directing. Bay uses so many close-up shots, shaky-cam moves, and spinning aerial pans that it is often hard to tell one character from another as they do battle. The Autobots all look distinctive and were easy to tell apart. The Decepticons, however, were not, as they all had a dark, pointy look to them. Luckily they never took on the Autobots more than one at a time, so I could usually infer who was getting the snot beat out of them. And trust me, even if it's difficult to tell who is winning, every attack is sickeningly real, with crunching metal, flying bits and pieces, and excellent sound effects to convey the damage being dealt.

The only real standout among the humans in the cast was Shia LaBeouf, whom I see as a quickly-rising star with some real talent. The females among the cast, while giving decent performances, especially Megan Fox, were obviously chosen more for their looks than to portray strong, interesting characters. John Turturro was entertainingly campy, and Jon Voight was doing a good job up until the point that he turned Rambo on us. The soldiers were largely forgettable, and Anthony Anderson turned in a pretty good comedic performance that made me laugh quite a bit.

The real treat here, though, was Peter Cullen reprising his role as Optimus Prime. Every time he spoke, I got chills as I was taken back to my childhood to all that time spent with the Transformers. The force and vision behind that voice drives both the character and his narration in the film, making it quite inspiring to listen to. Other than that, the concept of Bumblebee communicating through his radio was a nice addition, and the strange noises made by the tiny Frenzy were both funny and corny enough to be considered camp. Hugo Weaving did well as Megatron, and sounded more true to the character than Frank Welker ever did, in my opinion.

All in all, I enjoyed the movie greatly, and I'll be going back to see it again. It gets some things right and some things wrong, but in the end, it's Transformers, a film based on toys. I see it as a good, campy film to be added to the other lore of the universe, though some want to see it as a serious alien-invasion movie. Not me. It's just another incarnation of the Autobot-Decepticon conflict, and it is just as entertaining as any other version. Peace out.
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #34 on: July 04, 2007, 11:58:03 pm »
Now I'm a hardcore 80's kid. I loved Transformers (see avatar).

I actually went to this movie completely expecting to hate it. I had seen that they changed most of the vehicles bodies (although this is because of the car companies). I personally didn't like the new look, I thought it was too organic looking. And I actually found Bumblebee's eyes kinda creepy. I also expected lame vehicle forms because of some toys I had seen which showed Megatron and Starscream as a ball of metal. And the sight of flames on the side of Optimus made me cringe.

I watched the movie a few hours ago and I have to say I loved it. I was extremely scared they would simply try and rip-off the original. Instead they created their own transformer universe like Beast Wars or Armada. The CGI was amazing. the voices were great. The action scenes were good. And the movie makes fun of itself. It actually reminded me of Pirates of the Caribbean. It's really a movie you just go to enjoy. And I definitely enjoyed it. The humour was great, it has so many one liners.

Despite a few minor personal annoyances, my biggest being Bumblebee didn't even talk. I love this movie. And also love the fact a second movie is coming out.  ;D
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2007, 01:29:12 pm »
This movie is excellent! Just saw it yesterday. I think it can be considered one of my favorites.


And I was expecting it to be pathetic...

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2007, 10:07:27 pm »
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #37 on: July 06, 2007, 10:08:57 pm »
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #38 on: July 06, 2007, 10:15:09 pm »
try clearing your cookies.

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #39 on: July 07, 2007, 02:08:40 am »
Transformers porn for the win!

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #40 on: July 07, 2007, 03:32:36 am »
Can't help but think about that Futurama scene in 'The Lesser of Two Evils' when you said that :D

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #41 on: July 07, 2007, 03:58:16 am »
Any one seen the Drawn Together episode with the Weiner Mobile?

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #42 on: July 07, 2007, 04:09:14 am »
No, but it sounds funny :D

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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #43 on: July 07, 2007, 04:36:20 am »
No, but it sounds funny :D

I would find a clip, but youtube doesn't have any from that episode and Comedy Centrals homepage does, but only things not related to that.

Edit: The closest is this

Warning: Drawn Together features crude sexual, violent and racist humor, watch at own risk.
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Re: Transformers movie!!!
« Reply #44 on: July 07, 2007, 04:52:20 am »
oh no, I mean I've seen drawn together, just not that particular episode, but that was hilarious :D