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Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« on: March 17, 2005, 07:34:32 pm »
All hail George Lucas! Supreme Lord and Master of all that is Holy! Bow before his awesome might!

Now that that's all said and done. How about a trailer or would a 60 Minutes interview more fit to your liking?

Personally, I am extremely giddy over Episode III despite the let-downs that were Episodes I and II. I have the slightest feeling that this may go right and I mean come on, this is episode-frickin'-three. Who cannot get excited over it? Let us discuss the wonders that it is.



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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2005, 08:00:29 pm »
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2005, 08:00:59 pm »
Yeah, this trailer when I first saw it on the O.C. is everything Star Wars should be. It definately made me excited to see the movie, which Episode I and Episode II full length trailers didn't.

PS: I am the biggest Star Wars nerd ever.  :-[

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2005, 08:04:42 pm »
Edit: Spoilers...

Movie Screenshots: http://www.lewed.net/ep3/index.html
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2005, 08:22:54 pm »
looks alot like starcraft, but way better gfx, with the protoss

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2005, 08:33:37 pm »
IS THAT AN IN GAME SCREEN SHOT!? :o :o :o :o
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2005, 08:42:15 pm »
no, is a shot of the movie starwars 3

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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2005, 08:52:48 pm »
Remember all, please label spoilers.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2005, 09:21:54 pm »
ohh oops, its not my fault it that dude above me

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2005, 08:31:58 am »
I'm not sure the series can ever recover from Hayden Christiansen's reinvention of Darth Vader as The Whiniest Jedi. "I'm gonna be the biggest bestest Jedi and beat death and buy all my friends strawberry milkshakes and stay up past my bed time! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!" He made Luke's infamous "Toshi Station Power Converters" line look positively manly by comparison. The fact that the story arc allows him to procreate with Natalie Portman is a crime against humanity.

I also just find myself enormously bummed out that the story arc HAS to lead to Samuel L. Jackson getting whacked. (I doubt that's much of a spoiler... insofar as we all know all the Jedi are gone by Episode IV)

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2005, 08:57:17 am »
umm, all the Jedi aren't gone...I'm pretty sure Yoda is a jedi. I saw the trailer too looks good. I enjoyed the Cartoon Network Clone Wars series a lot. That had some awsome stuff in it.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2005, 09:07:56 am »
umm, all the Jedi aren't gone...I'm pretty sure Yoda is a jedi. I saw the trailer too looks good. I enjoyed the Cartoon Network Clone Wars series a lot. That had some awsome stuff in it.

Well, OK... all the B-list Jedi. But the point still stands -- Samuel L. Jackson deserves better than to be taken down by Darth Simpering Wuss.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2005, 09:17:38 am »
Wow those pictures are AWSOME  ;D
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2005, 10:05:05 am »
Yeah, I agree. Luke Skywalker and all of his whiny lines got taken out by Anakin's skillful whining. Episode II was 98% Anakin whine, 2% story.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2005, 02:44:04 pm »
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2005, 03:27:02 pm »
Hayden Christiansen's reinvention of Darth Vader as The Whiniest Jedi. "I'm gonna be the biggest bestest Jedi and beat death and buy all my friends strawberry milkshakes and stay up past my bed time! WAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
haha whats that from ?

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2005, 03:01:14 am »
I'm a big enough geek to have enjoyed Episodes I and II in spite of their not so great acting, dialogue and plot. They were still fun movies. But Revenge of the Sith looks (from the new trailer) to actually be a genuinley good movie as well as another slice of sci-fi action fun.

And hey, if Lucas screws it up he can fix it up for a Special Edition rerelease in 15 years time  ;)
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2005, 06:45:51 am »
At least Ep. III looks Gungan free.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2005, 08:34:59 am »
The Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Mastered Special Editions of Episodes I-VI and VII the undiscovered special bonus features episode with 4.3 minutes of extra content.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2005, 09:42:24 am »
The Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Mastered Special Editions of Episodes I-VI and VII the undiscovered special bonus features episode with 4.3 minutes of extra content.

I'd buy it... ^_^

How abouts some Star Wars Episode III trailer with 1337 flavor?

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2005, 09:47:06 am »
Is there a copy of the Original Star Wars Trilogy with the original Darth Vaders voice on DVD somewhere? I saw a 30 second clip of the guy who acts as Darth Vader actually saying the lines to the other actors and I almost passed out from laughing...cause he's like english or something.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2005, 09:55:03 am »
They show that on "The Making of..." feature in the bonus DVD of the Star Wars Trilogy DVD set.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2005, 10:01:43 am »
I'd like to see the WHOLE move like that though, I'd never stop laughing.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #23 on: March 31, 2005, 12:45:38 pm »
I liked 1 and 2 and look forward to the third..  but then I enjoyed the original movies.  Don't read too much into it all.. just enjoy them for what they are.. entertainment. 

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2005, 12:36:46 pm »
I loved the Original Trilogy, but the new ones haven't been up to par, Episode II in particular.  Episode III seems like it has potential, as long as the dialogue and acting can support the plot. 

I'm also interested in seeing how far they'll push the PG-13 rating.  How many of you have seen the closeup on Anakin's burning face, or the shot where he's lying (limbless) on an operating table?

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2005, 05:32:37 pm »
Episode 1 was a travesty... there is no way they can recover from that.  That ridiculous Jab Jab Zog or whatever that stupid alien was called completely threw the seriousness of Star Wars out of the window, and made it a joke.  The introduction of Anakin as a child was also a mistake.  The film was terrible, and if you disagree with that statement - then you seriously have bad taste.

Episode 2 surprised me.  It was rather good i thought.  Ewan McGregor played an excellent Obi Wan, and i was interested to see Boba Fett's background history (i never knew he was a clone in the originals).  However the introduction of poor actors and actresses and the return of that loathsome alien Jab Jab (correct me if i'm wrong here) made a potentially very good film simply good.

By bad actors i mean Hayden Christansen, at first he was alright, but when it comes to his slow transition to a Sith he sounds more like my sister when she is upset about something.  His half-hearted, "I'm going to be the most powerful Jedi ever," would've been good had it not been with the ridiculously emotionless way in which he said it and the completely unconvincing shock which overcame Natalie Portman (perhaps the worst actress i have ever seen bar Keira Knightley and Sandra Bullock).

Episode 3 better be pretty damn awesome, and Hayden Christansen had better make sure his voice has broken for it and that he took a few lessons in stage school before shooting it.  I swear i could do a better Anakin Skywalker than him... no seriously, give me the part and you'll see (this isn't just a ploy to be able to fondle Natalie Portman... honest!).

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2005, 08:17:40 am »
Actually I don't blame Episode II on the actors (mostly). I blame all the movie problems on George Lucas and his terrible directing skills. Think about Episode II, almost every single scene was filmed in front of a bluescreen which is extremely difficult to do for even the most experienced actors. And these movies are filmed in random scene order, so it is extremely difficult for the actors to know exactly what is going on in a scene and they really depend upon the director to tell them exactly what they should be feeling and emoting.

It is well know that Lucas is bad at directing his actors and has a difficult time inspiring them. Look at the last movie. A lot of people say how horrible Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman were. But both of these actors can act, and quite well. Look at Christensen in the film Shattered Glass and Portman in Garden State. Both of these performances were deep, complex, "real" performances. They can act, but they are young actors and young actors often need more direction than experienced, older actors.

On the flipside you have Christopher Lee, Samuel Jackson, and Ewan McGregor. Lee is one of the most experienced actors on the planet today, and he has starred in more crap movies than anyone else alive. This guy who knows how to take the worst lines and turn them into pure gold. Jackson is basically playing a role he literally invented (remember he went to Lucas to have him added to these films) so he understands his role. And McGregor is not only an excellent actor, but he is playing a character in which most people already know his backstory and history. So he is able to base his performance off of something rather than just going in totally cold and making his character up.

I think the third movie has the full potential to be a great movie, everything is there. A good story (good turning to evil), lots of action, and potentially good acting. The trailer was perhaps one of the very best I have ever seen, I just hope the movie lives up to even a 10th of the hype.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2005, 08:37:44 am »
Samuel L Jackson a good actor?  Can't say i agree, and i can't say i agree with Christensen and Portman ever being good actors.  I want this film to be good, but after the first two debacles i can only be sceptical of it until i've actually seen it.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2005, 08:56:43 am »
Samuel L Jackson a good actor?  Can't say i agree, and i can't say i agree with Christensen and Portman ever being good actors.  I want this film to be good, but after the first two debacles i can only be sceptical of it until i've actually seen it.

Have you seen Christensen and Portman in the movies I mentioned?
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2005, 09:26:58 am »
A good actor is based upon multiple good performances, not just one.  For example,  Alan Rickman can be considered a good actor because his performances range from the "bad guy" in Robin Hood (the film sucked, but i remember him being good in it) to an office manager in a relationship crisis in Love Actually (also a bad film, but a good performance from Rickman).

Another good actor is Brad Pitt.  He was incredible in Fight Club, truly played Tyler Durden to perfection.  He was also alright as Achilles in Troy (although the film was poor, i felt he played him well), and again in Interview With The Vampire he was very good. 

Now, by saying Natalie Portman is a good actress because she played one part well is not enough.  She acted well in one film... out of how many?  Let's get her filmography shall we:

# The Smoker (2005) (announced) .... Nicole Bonner
# V for Vendetta (2005) (filming) .... Evey Hammond
# Paris, je t'aime (2005) (filming) .... Francine (segment "10th arrondissement")
# Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) (post-production) .... Senator Amidala/Padmé Naberrie-Skywalker
# Free Zone (2005) (post-production) .... Rebecca

# Closer (2004/I) .... Alice
# True (2004) .... Francine
# Garden State (2004) .... Sam
# Cold Mountain (2003) .... Sara
# Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) .... Sen. Padmé Amidala
... aka Attack of the Clones: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version (promotional title))
... aka Star Wars II (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones (USA: video box title)
# Where the Heart Is (2000) .... Novalee Nation

# Anywhere But Here (1999) .... Ann August
# Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) .... Queen Padmé Naberrie Amidala
... aka Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace (USA: video box title)
... aka The Phantom Menace (USA: short title)
# Mars Attacks! (1996) .... Taffy Dale
# Everyone Says I Love You (1996) .... Laura Dandridge
# Beautiful Girls (1996) .... Marty
# Heat (1995) .... Lauren Gustafson
# Developing (1995) .... Nina
# Léon (1994) .... Mathilda

Give me ONE film, one film apart from Garden State where she is actually any good in?  None of them.  You may disagree, but her performances in others were hardly ground breaking.

Now onto Hayden Christensen:

# The Decameron (2006) (pre-production) .... Lorenzo
# Less Than Kind (2005) (pre-production) .... Gibson
# Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) (post-production) .... Anakin Skywalker/Lord Darth Vader

# Shattered Glass (2003) .... Stephen Glass
# Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) .... Anakin Skywalker
... aka Attack of the Clones: The IMAX Experience (USA: IMAX version (promotional title))
... aka Star Wars II (USA: promotional abbreviation)
... aka Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones (USA: video box title)
# Life as a House (2001) .... Sam Monroe
# Trapped in a Purple Haze (2000) (TV) .... Orin Krieg
# "Higher Ground" (2000) TV Series .... Scott Barringer

# The Virgin Suicides (1999) .... Jake Hill Conley
... aka Sofia Coppola's the Virgin Suicides (USA: complete title)
# Free Fall (1999) .... Patrick
... aka Angst über den Wolken (Germany)
# Strike! (1998) (as Hayden Christiansen) .... Tinka's Date
... aka The Hairy Bird (Australia) (Canada: English title: working title)
... aka All I Wanna Do (USA: new title)
... aka College femminile (Italy)
... aka Filles font la loi, Les (Canada: French title)
# No Greater Love (1996) (TV) .... Teddy Winfield
... aka Danielle Steel's 'No Greater Love'
# Harrison Bergeron (1995) (TV) .... Eric
... aka Kurt Vonnegut's Harrison Bergeron
# Love and Betrayal: The Mia Farrow Story (1995) (TV) .... Fletcher #2
# In the Mouth of Madness (1995) .... Paper Boy
... aka John Carpenter's In the Mouth of Madness (USA: complete title)
# Street Law (1995) .... Young John Ryan
... aka Law of the Jungle
# "Family Passions" (1993) TV Series .... Skip McDeere

Apart from Shattered Glass?  I couldn't care less for the director's style.  A good actor is a good actor, they are allowed a couple of off-films, but you cannot blame Portman and Christensen's abysmal performances on George Lucas.  You can say, "Lolz, but why don't YOU do it then if you're such a smartarse?!"  And i will reply that i would gladly, and that i would be infinitely better than Christensen.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2005, 11:04:29 am »
First off, Leon the Professional is a truly amazing film, Janos.  Again, you may not agree but Natalie Portman was giving us great acting when she was hardly a teenager and it's going to take a lot to convince me otherwise.  I think that has to count for something.  Everything I have seen her in (barring the Star Warses) has impressed me.  As for Haydensen, I've heard nothing but good things about him Life as a House.  As an actor, I can say that poor acting and good directing can equal a poor film but good acting and poor directing can be just as bad if not worse.  Take Life of David Gayle.  There was a lot of great acting coming out of Kevin Spacey and Lorra Linney but it was a poor movie because the writing and directing were poor.  Lucas has said many times that he works better with machines than people and I agree.  He's a great idea man and 2nd unit director.  Give him action scenes and space battles and he gives you gold.  Have him try to write a love scene between two twenty-somethings and you get emotionless pap.  I am not holding out great hopes for this next movie but I'll see it and try to enjoy it and if nothing else, I'll have Gendy Tartatovksi's Clone Wars cartoons to satiate my need for awesome star wars.  -leeman

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2005, 11:38:44 am »
A good actor is based upon multiple good performances, not just one.

but you cannot blame Portman and Christensen's abysmal performances on George Lucas.

On your first point, I 100% disagree. A good acting performance is a good acting performance, no matter the number of performances they do.

On your second point, again I 100% disagree. Do you know how difficult it is to work with young actors? They often require a lot of direction and guidance, and that is the job of the director.

Also how many movies have you worked on Lord Janos? I have worked on many movies in life (as a PA) and hundreds of TV shows. At the end of the day the only person, the only person, who has complete control over the movie, how the actors look, and which scenes are put into the final movie is the Director. He is completely responsible for final end product of the movie and can make or break how the actors look and behave on-screen.

In my years I have seen horrible performances made to look amazing on-screen with great cutting by the director, and I have seen amazing performances totally destroyed by the director. Lucas is fantastic at making worlds but he is horrible director. He should have just had someone else direct Episodes I, II, and III, like he did with Empire and Return of the Jedi.

Again, I stick by what I say. Episode III has the potential to be a good movie, but we'll just have to see how it turns out.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2005, 02:06:22 pm »
Yes a good acting performance is a good acting performance, however that doesn't make a good actor.  You contradict yourself, Steve.  By saying that a bad performance can be made to look incredible from Director cutting and whatnot, that doesn't make the actor any good does it?

How many movies have i worked on?  None.  Please, i'd jump at the chance to get such a part in a film... the notion that i would play Christensen's part better than himself accentuates how little i think of him.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #33 on: April 06, 2005, 02:26:06 pm »
Yes a good acting performance is a good acting performance, however that doesn't make a good actor.  You contradict yourself, Steve.  By saying that a bad performance can be made to look incredible from Director cutting and whatnot, that doesn't make the actor any good does it?

Hum, you are correct technically. Yes, a good acting performance doesn't make a good actor. You may be correct that Christensen might be a "good overall actor" but I have seen him in good performances in the past. He was excellent in Shattered Glass so that could mean:

1) Christensen did a bad acting job and the director made him look good in the editing.
2) Christensen did a good acting job and the director did nothing to improve or hinder his performance in the editing.
3) Christensen is normally a bad actor but the director did an excellent job directing Christensen to get a great performance out of him.

So ... I don't know anymore. All I am basically saying is that I have seen both Christensen and Portman perform well in past movies. Does that mean that they're not "at heart" horrible actors? No, who knows? Perhaps those will be the only good performances of their careers.

But what I am saying is that the director has a lot to do with getting a good performance from their actors. A good director can make a bad actor look good, and a great actor look fantastic. And a bad director can make a great actor look "only" good and a bad actor look horrible. Lucas, not being a good director in my opinion, is not helping Christensen or Portman out by doing a poor job. Meanwhile Lee, Jackson, and McGregor are at least good enough so that their performances aren't totally destroyed by Lucas.

Again, Lee, Jackson, and McGregor I would say are performing on these movies and ONLY these movies (I am not comparing any of their past work) at a high enough level that what ends up on the screen is passable for "acceptable" acting levels. Christensen and Portman are performing on these movies and ONLY these movies at a low enough level that what ends up on the screen is not-passable for "acceptable" acting levels. It also doesn't help that in order for the love story to work in the last movie they really needed a strong script and believable acting. Neither of which they got.

Whew, I'm tired. I just want Episode III to be good. Can we agree upon that Lord Janos?
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2005, 02:38:13 pm »
Whew, I'm tired. I just want Episode III to be good. Can we agree upon that Lord Janos?

I think we can agree on that, and also that we both have different thoughts on what defines a good actor.  Let's leave it at that i think =).

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2005, 11:38:37 pm »
For any of you that haven't seen the burnt Anakin and operating table pictures, here's a link to a thread that contains them.  And, yes, it does contain spoilers.  If you don't want to see it, don't click.

http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=3638#73889&sid=d263a0539f4b1fce8a68c57a31fc11f7

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2005, 12:37:09 pm »
should I go see it this wednesday?

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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2005, 02:09:35 pm »
I've been reading articles and reviews (which I don't trust much, as I have always been a fan of two star sci-fi movies)  and they pretty much say this one is shoulda been the stepping stone for the others to build off of (ala the quality of Ep III should have been present in Ep I, and it woulda ended up being a filming masterpiece).  However, I liked the first two movies because I could honestly care less about who the actors are, their history, or their performances.  My imagination can make up for lost talent.  Besides, watch Star Wars Ep IV with a discerning eye and you'll see a movie full of unmotivated actors (thought the leads were absolute genius) and improvised setups... I mean, no one had EVER done sci-fi like that before.... how did ANYONE have any clue as to what was going on?  One thing the reviews whined about was story inconsistancies and stuff of the sort.... I was completely unaware that hte reviewers actually wrote the story too! (sarcasm)

I'm going to watch it at 12:01am on the 19th.... I paid 8 bucks to watch it... I'm going with enough friends to choke a horse.  I'm going to have the time of my life.  It's Star Wars....and no matter how iffey the performances are, we will NEVER get another chance to enjoy ourselves like we will in a few days.  So grab a drink and some popcorn and pay homage to a series that cannot be duplicated, no matter how hard anyone tries.
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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2005, 02:24:38 pm »
I gona see it this weekend  ;D Ill shoot you guys if you spoil the movie
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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2005, 07:28:52 pm »
I'm seeing it tomorrow night, at seven, with some friends.  Unfortunately, I couldn't make it for an earlier showing (like midnight or noon). :(

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« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2005, 09:18:01 am »
Well, It's done.  I saw it lost night and it was pretty much what I expected.  Parts of it were extremely cool and fun and other parts were painful.  In the end, it's a decent way to end it and it's about as good a film as we're going to get out of Mr. Lucas.  Visuals were of course amazing.  Acting(or the direction of the actors)/dialogue/plot was underwhelming but I wasn't caught off guard.  I'd say see it and enjoy it and talk about it with your friends.  The debates that this movie will inspire will be almost worth the price of admission.  -leeman

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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2005, 10:00:24 am »
Now that the movie is out, I'd like to briefly re-iterate what bwl2 said.... please be mindful of anything that could be considered spoilers and either keep your comments general (as the prior poster did) or put some sort of warning in your posts.

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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2005, 12:56:59 pm »
I saw it last night.  It is easily the best in the prequel trilogy.  The music is beautiful (a great mixture of old school/new school Williams compositions).  The movie is intense.  I was sweating like a pig by the end...even though I knew what we going to happen, I was still on the edge of my seat.  I know the title is "Revenge of the Sith", but I had no idea how powerful this movie would be with regards to "the bad guy winning."  Lots of twists and turns.  I cannot wait until it's out on video... I smell a 24 hour Star Wars saga viewing :).
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« Reply #43 on: May 20, 2005, 10:14:58 am »
I'm going to go see it in a few weeks when the theaters clear out... I already knew the plot of it, like, last year, but I still want to see how it all turned out. I am bummed about the plot inconsistencies, though. One in particular, which I won't talk about, even though it's obvious to anybody who's seen any 2 of the movies.

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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2005, 03:23:07 pm »
Im going to see the movie in 2 hours! Ill tell you my impression
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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2005, 12:27:46 am »
Amazing.  I know this post is coming a bit late, but the movie is incredible.  It outpaces Episodes I and II to such a huge extent... after watching Episode III, the other prequels just seemed hollow in comparison.

As a diehard Star Wars fan, I'm probably a bit biased, but I can still tell you that it was one of the best movies I have ever seen.  I never thought I would cry in a movie, but I did.  Twice I teared up, and at the end I shed a couple tears while staring, transfixed, at the incredible last scene.  I ended up just sitting there or standing at the edge of the aisle while the credits rolled.  I was the last the leave the theater.

So, where does it rank?  It's so much better than The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, yet so different from the Original Trilogy.  To make a comparison is most difficult.  I'd probably rank it in the midst of the OT.  Not better, not worse... but different and special in its own way.  It's definitely the darkest and one of the most moving films in the series.

All in all, I recommend it highly.  There are a few flaws, but nothing glaringly bad that detracts from the whole sublime experience.

Go and see it!

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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2005, 10:47:36 am »
The movie blew me away.. I almost cried on multiple occasions.
Depressing, but infinitely better than I and II.
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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2005, 01:55:18 pm »
It starts out like a comedy and gets more and more depressing as time goes on
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« Reply #48 on: May 27, 2005, 07:24:55 am »
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« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2005, 02:21:53 pm »
It starts out like a comedy and gets more and more depressing as time goes on

Depressing isn't the word so much as saddening. The sadness just makes you want to cry or fight for justice... it was so... brilliant... I can't believe George Lucas made it.

... I'm just so impressed and awed by its majesty -- sooo --- sooo -- impressed... awed...

... Man... good movies only come once in a great while...
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« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2005, 06:36:35 pm »
*spoiler starts*

I liked the irony of Padme dying and Anakin turning to the darkside, if Anakin didnt turn to the darkside, he wouldnt have hurt Padme and she wouldnt have died.

*spoiler ends*

The low point of the film for me was Anakin and Padme's on screen chemistry, it felt like a forced romance and not a true love.

apart from that i loved the movie, very impressive, very dark. We all knew what would happen in the end but george lucas was able to keep me guessing and keep me inerested throughout the film.

I look forward to seeing it again :)

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2005, 08:17:33 am »
Funny comic about episode 3, go check it out a VGcats.com.  Lots of funny stuff on there.



Hmmm... very unreadable on this forum

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=150  Readable version :)
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« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2005, 01:40:26 pm »
lmao, thats great, thanks for the link :)

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« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2005, 03:11:18 pm »
EDIT - MAJOR PLOT SPOILERS

The movie was a bloody travesty.  Lets start with the plot shall we?

The Plot:

Ok, so let's get this straight... Anakin wants to save his wife Padme (try acting for once Portman) from potential death in childbirth.  Palpatine TELLS him he is Darth Sidious, and in full knowledge of the fact that the Sith have always been selfish, murderous bastards Anakin believes him that the only way to 'save' his wife is to turn to the "dark" side (get the hint... it's the DARK side).

Now that's all fine and dandy... but the thing i don't get is, the reason he turns to the dark side is to save her right?  So why the hell does the petulant little fool choke her half to death?  Now i know it's supposed to be a very poor attempt at irony on behalf of the immature pleb that George Lucas is, but he's just contradicted the whole plot then and there.

Stupid reason to turn to the dark side, stupid contradiction of plot - stupid plot.

The Script:

Terrible... let's run over a few beauties that i can remember (there are sure to be more!):

"Anakin... you're breaking my heart!  You've changed... i don't know you anymore!"

"And Padme... is she alright?" - you're a Sith Lord, you never showed that emotion in the old ones... thanks for ruining Vader's image as the only decent Jedi/Sith.

And the now infamous...

"NNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Enough said really, do you get more cliched?


I'll move on to the half-arsed acting later when i can be bothered.




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« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2005, 03:25:32 pm »
Yeah, Episode III was pretty <bleh> overall. Shame really, but Lucas is laughing all the way to the bank, and if he likes the movies then does it really matter if we like them? He makes those movies for himself as much as for everyone else.

And if there was one good thing to come out of the last three movies it was the Clone Wars animated series. Those episodes were excellent! Much better than the past three movies.
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« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2005, 03:52:16 pm »
The Clone Wars series was great.  After watching it and then seeing the movie I was very disapointed at what they did to the Greivous character.  They made him a full blown badass in the cartoon and a wuss who couldn't put up a good fight in the movie.
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« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2005, 06:19:33 pm »
yeah the clone wars series was awesome, full blown animated action

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« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2005, 07:42:08 pm »
I could discuss all the minor problems I had with the acting, but to me it was overall a very very good film.
Sometimes I was upset with the acting, but the story was engaging and surprising for me, but that's perhaps because I didn't spoil myself on every online article before watching the movie.

Not saying you did, but I know there were a lot of them.

Although I think the greatest flaw in the series is that all the surprises are eliminated from the next IV V and VI because of the first three episodes. So people who somehow get the idea to watch the series from 1-6 arn't going to enjoy the classic scene from episode 5... =)
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« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2005, 07:45:28 pm »
I thought episod 2 was bad, and this one had some plot holes, to say it was the best prequle is accurate, to say it is the best of all time is arrogant
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« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2005, 09:44:31 pm »
I believe this movie to perhaps be the greatest of the prequels. Though I loved Ep. I and II with all my heart, Ep. III simply blows them out of the water.

The plot seems to me to be very well rounded, though I had no problems with the previous two, they could have been this polished and well-written if a little more effort had been put into it. The transition of Anakin to the Dark Side is very well handled. Lord Janos, the reason Anakin turned, even with the knowledge of the Siths' true ways is because of his feelings. Love clouds the minds of the young, and makes them do irrational things without their knowledge. The irony here is that, even though Vader became a Sith Lord to save Padme', the Dark Side corrupted his vision and clouded his judgement even more than his love did, causing him to make some very bad desicions that led to her untimely death. Even then, her death wasn't entirely his fault. Apparently, she gave up the will to live, assumingly because she realized that Anakin had turned to the Dark Side because of her, and that the Empire's domination and Vader's development was all because of her. Love is a very powerful emotions, Janos, and it drives this movie along very well.

Now, the acting at times can seem unconvincing. Anakin and Padme's scenes were particularly awkward and sometimes painful lines are used. For the most part, Christanen delivered a good performance, much better than the role he tried to play in Ep. II. Portman is perhaps the worst actor in the movie, and the only convincing parts of the movie featuring her are the segments of her social commentary to Anakin and Senator Organa. Obi-wan was very well played, once again, and he really was the best performance here besides the excellent acting of Palpatine's actor. Samuel L. Jackson was alright, but in his battle with Darth Siddious, the dialouge was particularly cheesy. Frank Oz once again delivered a great performance as Yoda's voice, but then again, I don't Yoda could ever be played badly or even pulled down on the coolness scale. Towards the end, James Earl Jones did an excellent job as Vader, and the scenes with Vader speaking were perhaps the most powerful in the movie, really delivering gripping emotion and giving clues as to why Vader is so bitter and cold in the original movies.

The special effects were top-notch, and I hardly ever realized I was watching a CGI-heavy movie. The final battle between Anakin and Obi-Wan was especially amazing. I was on the edge of my seat, as the lightsaber duel was among the best in any of the movies, rivaling Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker's breathtaking battle in Return of The Jedi. The battle was clearly influenced by asian films and recent movies, but otherwise the battle was stunning to watch and the lava-filled backgrounds were stunning. The fight between Darth Siddious and Yoda was my personal favorite, as Yoda is my favorite character, and seeing him battle the Emperor was simply exhilirating. Finally, Anakin's loss of limbs and subsequent torching in the lava was incredibly well done and I actually shed a tear as the young Jedi had his flesh seared from his body. His transformation to Darth Vader was chillingly done and the cold, metallic room and silent operators really showed what Lucas could do. When the mask went on and the first breath was taken, every time I've seen it, and in each theater, the audience burst into applause. Star Wars at its best.

My opinion: The best of the prequels, and possibly one of the more powerful movies. As Tr0n said, I don't need great actors, I just need my imagination and I'll make the performance ten times better than it was. Lucas has a masterpiece right here, and more modern movies should take notes from this film. I would be delighted to see more films of this caliber in theaters more often. Good day, and...
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« Reply #60 on: June 04, 2005, 01:34:13 pm »
The way i see it, Anakin turned to the darkside out of desperation to save his wife - i would also probably do the same.  In fact, i would be a Sith anyway.

And the transition ISN'T well handled.  He turned almost instantly.  He didn't think about it, he was ready to have Palpatine arrested and to try to convince him to help him - instead he prods Mace Windu (you can tell Samuel L. Jackson came up with the name) with his lightsaber, cuts off his hand, and then bows before a Sith Lord who he has seen revel in the merciless death of an innocent man and believes he can help him SAVE his wife.

Plus, doesn't he take on board what Palpatine said to him earlier?  He said that Plageous (spelling?) died because he told his student too much.  Did he really think Palpatine, upon learning how to use Plageous' life cheating power, would then tell Anakin only to have him overthrow him as Plageous was?  Yes love clouds the mind, yadda yadda yadda - so does alcohol, drugs, and and anything you have a fascination with. 

Also if the dark side clouds your mind so much, if he was more under the influence of the dark side than love, why would the first thing he asks the Emperor be a question about how she is and if she is safe?


Of course you are entitled to your own opinion... and i myself am a Star Wars fan (not to an obsessive degree), but found the plot holes, poor script and the entire film being CGI virtually to be a little too much.

And the James Earl Jones bit was alright when first heard, but after watching it again (no i didn't go to see it again, i downloaded it to see if it was really that bad... it was) it just sounds very whiney, childish and UN-Vaderlike.  It would've been better if he had instantly acknowledged the fact that he had killed her, started trying to kill the Emperor in rage, being lightening-whipped half to death again, and to then submit.  In IV, V and VI Vader is very submissive to the Emperor - not his "equal" as he is made out to be in III. 

Also, something i've never understood... why is Vader considered to be so powerful when he gets his arse completely caned by the inexperienced boy Luke who has only been training a short while?  Where are these great powers we are promised?  It just doesn't work...
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« Reply #61 on: June 04, 2005, 01:43:16 pm »
Also, something i've never understood... why is Vader considered to be so powerful when he gets his arse completely caned by the inexperienced boy Luke who has only been training a short while? Where are these great powers we are promised? It just doesn't work...

Because he doesn't want to lose his son. He lost all the people he loved most and he didn't want that to happen again. Which is why he tried to get Luke to join the Dark side. And ultimately why he threw Palpatine over the edge.

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« Reply #62 on: June 04, 2005, 01:46:14 pm »
So why didn't he incapacitate his son like before and cut off a limb or something?

I know the prophecy and whatnot... but logically it would've been better to have done that.  Plus how come he dies so easily to the Emperors lightening?  Luke takes one hell of a thrashing with it, while Vader has a quick lick and suddenly decides to die.

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« Reply #63 on: June 04, 2005, 01:52:22 pm »
Remember he is "more machine than man" and electrical circuitry doesn't like being...uh...electricuted.

So why didn't he incapacitate his son like before and cut off a limb or something?

How would that help?

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« Reply #64 on: June 04, 2005, 01:56:45 pm »
I hope you don't mind my helping in to ease your stressed frenzy of trying to understand the film. I'm sure everyone is nitpicking it to death --
First off, I thought episode I was mediocre, episode II was meh, but episode III was really good for me. =/

Also if the dark side clouds your mind so much, if he was more under the influence of the dark side than love, why would the first thing he asks the Emperor be a question about how she is and if she is safe?

Passion rules the dark side, and after getting his legs chopped off and his body charred over right nicely -- I think the recovery process would allow his mind to clear of his passion that rules him. He got his bearings back and his priorities back in shape -- he loved Padme.

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Of course you are entitled to your own opinion... and i myself am a Star Wars fan (not to an obsessive degree), but found the plot holes, poor script and the entire film being CGI virtually to be a little too much.

Plot holes?
Poor script is there at times, I can agree.
CGI -- damn I love CGI, but that's not why I like the film.

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And the James Earl Jones bit was alright when first heard, but after watching it again (no i didn't go to see it again, i downloaded it to see if it was really that bad... it was) it just sounds very whiney, childish and UN-Vaderlike.  It would've been better if he had instantly acknowledged the fact that he had killed her, started trying to kill the Emperor in rage, being lightening-whipped half to death again, and to then submit.  In IV, V and VI Vader is very submissive to the Emperor - not his "equal" as he is made out to be in III. 

I tried to place the voice -- then I remembered how Anakin sounded -- they tried to blend it, and I'm very sure that's how the whiney sounds came about. I saw it in the theater Janos, and no doubt, if you saw this online the effects are so drastically different that I can understand you hating the film. God, I'm so happy I didn't do that.

Anyway, see above for my answer, because I thought that the effects were well placed so people could understand the passion that rules Anakin. However, my ONLY SERIOUS nitpick is -- how he killed the younglings. That was sooo sooo surprising. That's something you should really argue about if you're not in-favor of the film, but I'm not looking for absolute realism as much as a good movie.

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Also, something i've never understood... why is Vader considered to be so powerful when he gets his arse completely caned by the inexperienced boy Luke who has only been training a short while?  Where are these great powers we are promised?  It just doesn't work...

... You're thinking too hard, and now you've reached a point where you can't even trust the magic of the old movies. Now for god's sakes man -- you know those were good movies. Don't let fear rule you Lord Janos... =P

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« Reply #65 on: June 04, 2005, 02:00:55 pm »
No, i went to the theatre to see it first, then downloaded it to watch it again.  I like to see films twice to see if i missed anything.

And the best part was where he killed the "younglings" - shame we didn't actually see it to be honest.  Bump the rating up to 18, i don't care - i would worship a film if for once it showed this sort of stuff... i was very disappointed we didn't see them actually storming the temple.

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« Reply #66 on: June 04, 2005, 02:23:16 pm »
No, i went to the theatre to see it first, then downloaded it to watch it again.  I like to see films twice to see if i missed anything.

And the best part was where he killed the "younglings" - shame we didn't actually see it to be honest.  Bump the rating up to 18, i don't care - i would worship a film if for once it showed this sort of stuff... i was very disappointed we didn't see them actually storming the temple.

Well it's really a matter of taste, a lot of people would not like it, but really, it was just so unexpected -- directly after joining the dark side he goes to the temple and kills all the children there. =)

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #67 on: June 04, 2005, 02:30:50 pm »
That's the point.  I would hope that people don't like to see children getting murdered.  We've seen it all now... mass slaguhter, rape, pillaging - there are only a few little taboos left in (sensible) movie culture, and if you want to make something striking then the best way to do so is to tap into one of those taboos.  In this case Lucas could for once be on to a winner - by showing just how "clouded" and poisoned Anakin's mind had become by making you witness this gravest of evils.  I get kicks out of it (watching the film like that, not by doing it) - i'm sure plenty of others would too.  I honestly don't care about the politically correct mothers or children holding their toy lightsabers and what they think - Star Wars may be for kids, but the fanbase is much much older generally, so i think bump the rating up a little and lets have a bit of fun.

Killing some Trade Federation aliens that everyone hates anyway doesn't show us how dark Anakin has become, killing the children does - and to firmly drill it in and to stop making him look like a petulant child and puppet of Palpatine Lucas could've at least shown us one of the kids getting decapitated or something... no blood needed, just a quick taster.  Just my personal preference of course.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #68 on: June 04, 2005, 02:34:07 pm »
Lucas could've at least shown us one of the kids getting decapitated or something... no blood needed, just a quick taster.  Just my personal preference of course.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #69 on: June 04, 2005, 06:52:35 pm »
Well, Lord Janos, I used to have the same question as you did about Luke whooping Vader in a second-wind attack that seemed almost pitiful in my opinion. But it is obvious during that scene that Vader is fighting his son half-heartedly, and not nearly giving it all he had. Second, why did Vader take three seconds of force lightning and keel over? Simple. The Emperor was merely toying with Luke, taking time to kill him, but when his apprentice, perhaps the only person he ever imarted even the tiniest notion of trust to, betrayed him, he isn't exactly going to hold back.

About Anakin's transition to the Dark Side, it was well handled if you actually think about it. From the moment Darth Siddious revealed hmself to Anakin, young Skywalker was already his student. During the scenes afterwards, you could tell that he was contemplating the Dark Side, weighing the options, but trying to deny that he was already in it's grasp. The scene with Windu, while made cheesy by Jackson's dialouge, was very powerful and you saw Anakin holding onto the Light Side with all his grasp, denying his growing consumption by the Dark Side as he called for a fair trial. However, since he already knew the Dark Side was the only thing to save Padme, he was sold.

The irony here is that the Dark Side couldn't have saved Padme. In fact, she died because he turned. Even though it was inevitable, as Anakin's premonitions indicated, it is still sad. If fate had been different and he had killed Siddious, then Padme wouldn't have died and the prophecy would have been fulfilled. However, by accepting the Dark Side, Anakin was directly responsible for her death.

There. Now, any more plot holes for me to fill?

...Also, has anyone actually sat there and contemplated the fact that the Empire fell due to a bunch of Ewoks? It's really funny when you think about it. Just a thought.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #70 on: June 04, 2005, 06:57:16 pm »
Second, why did Vader take three seconds of force lightning and keel over? Simple. The Emperor was merely toying with Luke, taking time to kill him, but when his apprentice, perhaps the only person he ever imarted even the tiniest notion of trust to, betrayed him, he isn't exactly going to hold back.

Plus:

Remember he is "more machine than man" and electrical circuitry doesn't like being...uh...electricuted.

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« Reply #71 on: June 04, 2005, 07:10:18 pm »
Now the whole circuitry thing, I might buy, but I still believe that the Emperor was holding back on Luke. Either way, Vader still died.
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« Reply #72 on: June 05, 2005, 05:37:42 am »
Well of course if you think that, then that's fine.  Personally i feel it was a bad film - entertaining, but that doesn't make a film good.  You obviously don't.  End of discussion on my part.

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« Reply #73 on: June 05, 2005, 08:05:33 am »
i thought it was really good, much better than the phantom menace and clone wars.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #74 on: June 06, 2005, 06:33:18 am »
I think there were plot holes and such, and there was way to much CGI, need more models.  Look at Lord of the Rings to see how to do it right.  I liked this last one.  Real trouble is that I would have completely changed all 3 movies to be much more cohesive.  Maybe filmed them at the same time like they did with LOTR.

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« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2005, 02:52:20 pm »
My biggest beef with the movie is that Yoda really messed up. I mean, he can sense the dark side in Anakin when he's what, 5, but he can't sense a 100,000 stormtrooper conspiracy? And then he just runs away... that's not the Yoda I know. The other problem is all the discrepancies between this movie and 4-5-6. For example, Leia talks about having known her mother in, what, episode 5 maybe? She couldn't have! These sorts of things were really annoying for me. On the other hand, it was the last Star Wars movie (maybe) so I can't talk too badly about it.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2005, 02:53:54 pm »
For example, Leia talks about having known her mother in, what, episode 5 maybe? She couldn't have!

Maybe she was talking about here adoptive mother. Maybe?

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« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2005, 05:37:58 pm »
My biggest beef with the movie is that Yoda really messed up. I mean, he can sense the dark side in Anakin when he's what, 5, but he can't sense a 100,000 stormtrooper conspiracy? And then he just runs away... that's not the Yoda I know. The other problem is all the discrepancies between this movie and 4-5-6. For example, Leia talks about having known her mother in, what, episode 5 maybe? She couldn't have! These sorts of things were really annoying for me. On the other hand, it was the last Star Wars movie (maybe) so I can't talk too badly about it.

the clones are like robots, they dont have emotions or feelings, this is why Yoda didnt see it coming.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #78 on: June 08, 2005, 04:15:49 pm »
I finally saw the movie today.  I liked it. Doubt I will see again in theaters but will probably buy the dvd. It did bother me that Anakin killed the younglings but I'm a woman, what do you expect? I like the way they answered all the questions to flow into the original movie.  :)

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2005, 06:21:13 am »
I think the real trouble with the movies was the lack of freedom.  Lucas made the origonal trillogy with just the barest back story.  Then, when he made the new ones he had to get back to the beginning of Episode 4.  That really restricts what you can do.  I would much rather he made another trilogy in the Star Wars universe not connected to the origonal, kind of like KOTOR or some of the later novels.

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« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2005, 03:12:14 pm »
yeah thats a very good point. What made kotor's movie-like storyline so good was the twist, george lucas couldnt really add a twist to these movies.

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« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2005, 10:32:10 am »
I finally saw the movie today.  I liked it. Doubt I will see again in theaters but will probably buy the dvd. It did bother me that Anakin killed the younglings but I'm a woman, what do you expect? I like the way they answered all the questions to flow into the original movie.  :)

What bothered me about the youngling slaughter was that after we were subjected to listen to a kid less than 10 years old (you should all know that i am 100% against children acting in movies, or at least having them limited to not speaking), and were then about to be treated to it being brutally killed we weren't actually able to see it... really disappointed me - but then again Lucas never fails to disappoint =).

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« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2005, 11:37:26 am »
I finally saw the movie today.  I liked it. Doubt I will see again in theaters but will probably buy the dvd. It did bother me that Anakin killed the younglings but I'm a woman, what do you expect? I like the way they answered all the questions to flow into the original movie.  :)

What bothered me about the youngling slaughter was that after we were subjected to listen to a kid less than 10 years old (you should all know that i am 100% against children acting in movies, or at least having them limited to not speaking), and were then about to be treated to it being brutally killed we weren't actually able to see it... really disappointed me - but then again Lucas never fails to disappoint =).

Are you serious.  Haveing seen the children being killed would have sent the movie rating straight to R, which they never would have done.

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« Reply #83 on: June 11, 2005, 04:20:54 am »
If they would have shown the kids being killed, it would have left a very bad taste for viewers. Alot of kids watch these movies. I'm glad they didn't but I do understand your point Lord Janos.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #84 on: June 12, 2005, 12:10:23 pm »
I finally saw the movie today.  I liked it. Doubt I will see again in theaters but will probably buy the dvd. It did bother me that Anakin killed the younglings but I'm a woman, what do you expect? I like the way they answered all the questions to flow into the original movie.  :)
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2005, 07:54:30 pm »
I could care less if Vader killed kids, but he just didn't seem to have much reason to do it. He really should have started turning much earlier, like in Ep. 2, that way there would be SOME background for his sudden "Hey Palpatine is a Sith -whoamg- I will obey you master" insta-transition.

Also, what's up with "Not if anything I have to say about it, Lord Sidious"?

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« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2005, 03:57:21 am »
The moments where Vader kills the Sand People, the children, the Trade Federation goons, and his tiff with his mistress are the moments which define him and his bitterness as a character.  They NEED to show those bits more fully because they are what people want to see in these films - not the war, the clone army, or the plot to overtake the Senate - but Anakin's journey to the Dark Side.  How are the films supposed to show this when they DON'T actually show you the defining moments where his passions overtake him and the Dark Side starts overwhelming him even more?

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« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2005, 08:26:36 pm »
Exactly, and I don't think they showed enough. The Sand People was good, but he still seemed pretty determined to be a 'good jedi' right up until he suddenly says "I will obey you master" and etcetera, it made no sense because just a few seconds before he had gone and ratted out Palpatine. The change was far to sudden.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2005, 06:44:39 am »
I completely agree.  I thought he was going to become Darth Vader in Episode 2 myself.  Maybe at the end of it would be him getting mutilated, then he would come back as Darth Vader in episode 3.

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« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2005, 10:12:23 am »
I completely agree.  I thought he was going to become Darth Vader in Episode 2 myself.  Maybe at the end of it would be him getting mutilated, then he would come back as Darth Vader in episode 3.

That would have, to be frank, kicked arse.  Good idea.

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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #90 on: June 26, 2005, 04:48:46 am »
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I thought the movie was OK myself, however there was one scene that was supposed to be sad but I couldn't help but laugh out loud in the theatre. During the birthing scene twords the end the medical droid who is helping her is holding something that looks like.... a big shoe horn! i couldn't help but laugh.
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Re: Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith
« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2005, 04:28:39 pm »
My opinion on Revenge of the sith?

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« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2005, 06:52:07 am »
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I thought the movie was OK myself, however there was one scene that was supposed to be sad but I couldn't help but laugh out loud in the theatre. During the birthing scene twords the end the medical droid who is helping her is holding something that looks like.... a big shoe horn! i couldn't help but laugh.

Yah, I think just about everyone I know laughed at that sceen.  Especially Padme.  "Luke.... Leia... Theres still good in him... bleh".  My wife loves that part.