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Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« on: May 26, 2006, 07:17:00 am »
Hey Steve and others. I just finished Ender's Game--which I absolutely loved--when Steve recommended In The Balance on on the show. I picked it up and am really enjoying it. I'm really starting to get back into fantastical fiction in a big way, but am wasting a lot of time money on Amazon on books that I don't enjoy. The best Science Fiction and Fantasy is awesome, but it can be hard to find; there is so much pulpy crap out there.

I picked up Starship Troopers (all right, not great.) People seem to love the Wheel of Time seriess, but Eye of the World bored me to tears. Same with Illium. Though I loved the first Dune book, they get pretty tedious later on.

I'm crazy about Neal Stephenson--Cryptnomicon and The Baroque Cycle are in my Top Ten. I really, really enjoyed Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell. I gobbled up Asimov from the age of 14 to 17.

I would love to hear some recommendations. Any other recommendations, Steve. What are people enjoying?
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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2006, 07:20:00 am »
After I finish Dune, I finding Starship Troopers, and then starting that series. I have missed 100 years of books, so I have to catch up.

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« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2006, 07:21:12 am »
I don't mean to be impolite. The subject of this topic is fine, but I think it should be in the Books section. Maybe one of the Mods could swoosh it over there? M'Lady?

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 08:16:08 am »
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 08:44:58 am »
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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2006, 01:06:42 pm »
Maybe time for a little Phillip K Dick? His short stories are wonderful and trippy and often have these really weird and gripping ideas. The novels are not that good. Worthwhile yes, but even though they are short, PKD was never made for writing that long. Essentials are Ubik, Do Androids Dream of Electrical Sheep and A Scanner Darkly(movie soon!)Then of course there's Clarke, in the same vein as Asimov. Not my favourite though.

My recommendation for sci-fi is to try and get collections and anthologies with many different authors. Not only can you just flip past the stories you don't like, since there's another one twenty pages ahead, you also get a great selection of authors to check out.

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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 08:42:39 am »
Robert Forstchen's Lost regiment series. It starts with Rally Cry. Its quite good if you like alternative history kind of stuff.



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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2006, 06:34:54 am »
Try some Gregory Benford or Stephen Baxter.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 06:36:43 pm »
My two cents: (Mine aren't really uber-fantasy science fiction, they are more of a genre I call Sci-fi thought experiments)

George Orwell: 1984, a must read.

Ray Bradbury: The Martian Chronicles, kind of out there, but a good read. The Edgar Allen Poe chapter is my favorite. Also Farenheit 451.

Kim Stanley Robinson: Red Mars, Blue Mars, Green Mars. Like a near-future political/scientific thought experiment spread over 2000 pages. Very good read.

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« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2006, 03:10:29 pm »
Iron Sunrise- Charles Stross

A very interesting book with so many perspectives all inter weaving in a very exciting climax
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2006, 12:08:21 pm »
Jonothan Straneg and Mr. Norrel is fantastic, one of my all-time favourite books.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2006, 08:18:58 am »
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if you in to the scary HP mytho's, i highly recommend the Titus Crow series

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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2006, 01:24:00 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2006, 03:18:38 pm »
lol he only posted 1 post what if he cant find his topic anymore XD

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« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2006, 06:01:17 am »
You need to get Revelation Space and Chasm City by Alastair Reynolds.  IF you like those then read the trilogy of Revelation Space and his novelettes, the "Diamond Dogs and Turquoise Days" if only for Diamond Dog's
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« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2006, 02:53:06 pm »
I love Harry Turtledove! I'm also into Neal Stephenson!
I recomend some Arthur C Clarke, he's a really deep thinker and has wrote many great novels. Tom Clancy can be good since it is somewhat fiction...

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2006, 04:31:04 pm »
Tom Clancy make his books to long and that is that.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006, 03:37:10 pm »
Tom Clancy make his books to long and that is that.

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« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2006, 10:35:11 pm »
Sorry for the necro-bump, but I felt like adding my three cents...

If you enjoy old school science fiction/adventure/escapism, then I recommend The Martian Tales by Edgar Rice Burroughs (Author of Tarzan).  He wrote these books around 1914 or so, and they were the first dealing with a man traveling to another planet.  As these books were some of the first science fiction (besides H.G. Wells and Jules Verne, of course), many Science Fiction authors of this past century read these books and referenced them in some way.  For example, Robert Heinlein wrote direct references to them in The Number of the Beast.  In Return of the Jedi, there are some visual references, like the flying ships of Jabba the Hutt, along with Leia's metal bikini (reference to Dejah Thoris).  Even Superman is based somewhat on the main character of the books, John Carter:  6'2" or thereabouts, close cropped black hair, comes from one planet and lands on another, has great power on second planet, falls in love with native of that planet, becomes something of a savior of that planet, etc.  The first three books are the best:  A Princess of Mars, The Gods of Mars, and The Warlord of Mars.  Though these are not dense books (Burroughs writing style is very dynamic: you can see what is happening, but dialogue can be a bit stilted, though this could because of the books' age) they do actually have a commentary on certain social issues, like racism, organized religion, and isolationism, though they are not exactly addressed head on, but mentioned in a way.  These are good books to have fun with, and they are some of my favorites.
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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2006, 11:15:38 am »
Have to agree with Naronto: Singularity Sky by Charles Stross and the sequel Iron Sunrise are great books. A lot of suspense and a lot of offhand remarks and descriptions of future technologies and gadgets.

Some other favorites:

Neal Asher - Gridlinked
Greg Egan - Axiomatic, Permutation City

and of course all the books by William Gibson...

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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 10:41:34 pm »
Alternate History fans....and people interested in quantum physics  ;)...might want to read Timeline by Michael Crichton.

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« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2007, 01:15:56 am »
Well, its got to be better than the movie. Ye gads, what a bit of fluff and trash THAT thing was.



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« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2007, 09:28:15 am »
Which movie?
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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2007, 08:07:33 pm »
*google search*

OOOH THERE'S A TIMELINE MOVIE!

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« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2007, 05:32:25 am »
*google search*

OOOH THERE'S A TIMELINE MOVIE!

It sucks though. I haven't read the book but I hope it made more sense then the movie.

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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2007, 09:38:13 pm »
The book is good, but it's notoriously short. You're left with a "that's it!? " feeling at the end.

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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2007, 01:20:33 pm »
Well, its got to be better than the movie. Ye gads, what a bit of fluff and trash THAT thing was.

I just saw the movie. I didn't even bother to finish the piece of crap. It was hardly the same story.

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« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2007, 02:26:22 pm »
It wasn't even funny bad, it was just bad.

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« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2007, 11:35:08 am »
I had a look in Borders for "In the Presence of my Enemies." Turns out, for some reason, it isn't sold in Britain.

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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2007, 07:18:26 pm »
Starships Troopers and A Stranger in a Strange Land are good sci-fi books. They're the kind of political/thought experiment sci-fi which I just love.

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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2007, 11:21:32 am »
I stayed up to around 4 am last night reading Starship Troopers. What a great book.

I just finished the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, it is a great series of books, though I thought the ending could be better.

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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2007, 02:04:49 pm »
I just finished the Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, it is a great series of books, though I thought the ending could be better.

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« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2007, 02:29:19 pm »
Just got the last Harry Turtledove book in Le Grande Big Series.

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2007, 08:24:50 pm »
Does H.P. Lovecraft write a lot of alternate history type books? I think I heard someone mention that, and if anyone could recommend a particular alternate history book I'd be grateful. I've already read Kim Stanley Robinson's "Years of Rice and Salt" (Really great, recommend it).

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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2007, 08:29:55 pm »
What Mr. Turtledove is missing, in my opinion, is an alternate evolution book in which cephalapods came out of the water as the insects and amphibians did, and evolved intelligence about a million years before primates did.
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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2007, 02:32:28 pm »
He only does alternate history I'm afraid. Not alternate pre-history. What he in your opinion lacks is irrelevant.

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2007, 09:09:29 am »
What Mr. Turtledove is missing, in my opinion, is an alternate evolution book in which cephalapods came out of the water as the insects and amphibians did, and evolved intelligence about a million years before primates did.

Why not write this yourself?

Maybe I'd like J. K. Rowling to write erotic fiction in Hogwarts, but I doubt she'd do it.
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Re: Harry Turtledove and SciFi book recommendations
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2007, 07:17:16 pm »
Just finished Turtledoves Conan of Venarium. Pretty good actually. Takes a look at Conan's early origins.