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« on: May 12, 2006, 05:57:50 am »
I know we've talked about the 3D printing of creatures and how Maxis could possibly sell it to us. But wouldn't that be kind of cool if we could have them print out our cards from Sporeapedia? I think that if they made a set of rules or even alternate rulesets, then it could be really fun and really collectible because you would probably never see the same card twice!
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2006, 06:20:30 am »
Not bad, but the printing bill could rack up real high with the amount of things you could print out. Theres definitely a plan on a larger scale for Sporeapedia, maybe cell phone games?

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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 06:24:15 am »
Well, instead of doing custom printing, they could just randomly print the thousands and thousands of creatures and planets and such things on cards and release them in sort of booster packs. I'm pretty sure they're doing the cell phone thing anyways, but thats kind of lame. I would much rather hold the damn things in my hands and NOT buy a cell phone. If they did the random printing thing, that would be fun buying lots of packs to find your own creature eventually heh. As for the creature models, I dont know if anyone realises this but they would probably cost like 200 dollars each if they sold them because it takes a couple hours.

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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 06:25:37 am »
I personally wouldn't be that bothered about the cards, except maybe my first creature, I would be more interested in the models(i don't care about the cost that much, I just would really want one! and it would make a greatprize if they held any spore based competitions)
P.S. they could make that like a special offer if you register your pruchased product, you get a free card of your first uploaded creature sent to you.

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 06:41:57 am »
I am sure someone will make a card template that you can fill out with your creature pictures and data.  Then you can print them out yourself.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 07:33:45 am »
Why not have the function in the game? Just export you Pedia cards and print them you self. But i am a do it your self kinda guy. I would also be happy if we could export 3D models not only to be able to 3D print it (if you somehow could get a equipment) but also so you could import them in other games or projects. preferably with animation or at least a skeleton. The community of Fanmade movies and mods to other games could become huge! With this kind of adaptability the game could beat even The Sims.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2006, 07:46:19 am »
Those all sound like great expansion features.  I doubt most will be in the final version of the game.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 12:02:38 pm »
Well printing it yourself would suck because then it would be on normal paper, would be low quality and you would need to cut them out yourself so they would look like crap.

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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 12:03:27 pm »
Well printing it yourself would suck because then it would be on normal paper, would be low quality and you would need to cut them out yourself so they would look like crap.

Unless you buy nice photo paper and print it out in high quality.  You could also get pre-cut paper too.
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 12:05:35 pm »
Yeah thats a pain in the ass.

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2006, 12:09:04 pm »
Why?  You'd rather spend money buying them?
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2006, 12:14:01 pm »
Yes. If they made us print them ourselves, then they would be so inconsistent and "unofficial". You literally wouldn't be able to stack them in a deck because nobody would follow a standard card format. Some people would print on one side only, nobody wants to spend over a hundred dollars so they can print trading cards. That would be as lame as printing Pokemon cards, imagine everyone was playing with pokemon cards they bought then some moron comes in with some he printed on a piece of paper and cut out into a rectangle? It would just be easier if they made a monthly printing or something with updates from the database and printed them and shipped them in little packages to stores at random.

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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2006, 12:16:14 pm »
So you are expecting some kind of card game to come from this?  I thought you just wanted one as a momento of your creation.
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« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2006, 12:18:36 pm »
Yeah a card game. That would be fun and unique because there would literaly be millions of creatures, you would never be able to catch them all like pokemon and the game could sort of be based on that fact. Then one day when you find your creature you would be like OMG or something. But maybe you could request your own creature to be printed professionally from Maxis for a fee.

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2006, 12:20:03 pm »
Maxis could send 'special' card templated paper/card with push-out cards on an A4 ready to be printed via spore......maybe a bit far fetched though.

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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2006, 12:23:08 pm »
Yeah because computer ink isn't made for that sort of thing.

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2006, 12:25:39 pm »
Well i hope they do not try to limit my ability to print cards or export 3D models. I think that this could severally limit the creativity of the users. Is OK to have some "official" printworks or something but it should not limit the user to do want ever he wish with his contante. I see all ready today a dangerous trend bought on by micro transactions and other interstests that try to limit modding simply because they feel that they can not make money out of it. I do not want a society where all Art and Culture is produse by a elite of copyright holders. To withhold a simple feature like card printing i think is very bad.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2006, 12:28:07 pm »
Well i hope they do not try to limit my ability to print cards or export 3D models. I think that this could severally limit the creativity of the users. Is OK to have some "official" printworks or something but it should not limit the user to do want ever he wish with his contante. I see all ready today a dangerous trend bought on by micro transactions and other interstests that try to limit modding simply because they feel that they can not make money out of it. I do not want a society where all Art and Culture is produse by a elite of copyright holders. To withhold a simple feature like card printing i think is very bad.

They probably WONT let you do that. They could let you print the cards, or even have them print them, or package the cards and sell them in stores, but not export 3D models. Why? Because that is a tool that would need to be licenced, and if they didn't, then companies who sell their software that makes 3D models and costs thousands of dollars could possibly sue Maxis for monopolising the 3D modelling industry.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2006, 12:32:53 pm »
They wouldn't be monopolizing anything and they wouldn't need to liscense it.  In theory they could provide it for free and nothing is wrong with that from a legal standpoint, though they might want to make some money off of it.
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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2006, 12:36:11 pm »
Well lets just pretend what your saying is true. Then look how these models would make artists lazy. Every game mod that would come out would look like it was made in Spore which would get on everybodys nerves.

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2006, 12:38:45 pm »
Well i hope they do not try to limit my ability to print cards or export 3D models. I think that this could severally limit the creativity of the users. Is OK to have some "official" printworks or something but it should not limit the user to do want ever he wish with his contante. I see all ready today a dangerous trend bought on by micro transactions and other interstests that try to limit modding simply because they feel that they can not make money out of it. I do not want a society where all Art and Culture is produse by a elite of copyright holders. To withhold a simple feature like card printing i think is very bad.

They probably WONT let you do that. They could let you print the cards, or even have them print them, or package the cards and sell them in stores, but not export 3D models. Why? Because that is a tool that would need to be licenced, and if they didn't, then companies who sell their software that makes 3D models and costs thousands of dollars could possibly sue Maxis for monopolising the 3D modelling industry.

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2006, 12:40:20 pm »
Well lets just pretend what your saying is true. Then look how these models would make artists lazy. Every game mod that would come out would look like it was made in Spore which would get on everybodys nerves.

Have you spent any time in modeling software? In making games? Videos? Movies?  Its a hard job, while this might be a useful prototyping tool, no one would use this for a final model.  Like anything else it could be a tool but there is a lot of things missing which would make it useful for a complete design outside of Spore.  While Maxis probably won't release these tools, it wouldn't hurt the industry if they did.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2006, 12:42:50 pm »
Yokta: Umm right. What would you want to use SPORE models for in other things? The only thing I think they should be able to be used for if they can be exported is to make movies with.

mrrodgers: While I haven't spent time with any of those things, think of how many stupid people abuse things and ruin them for other people.

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2006, 12:58:39 pm »
Yokta: Umm right. What would you want to use SPORE models for in other things? The only thing I think they should be able to be used for if they can be exported is to make movies with.
First is Yokto.  :P

Second. Yeah movies would be one use. It could be very fun to see what the community could come up with. 3D printing would also be a option (Even if most do not have the equipment.) Someone would maybe be interested in creating a game with their models.The use of this models are only limited by the creativity of the user. Who knows what creative stuff you could do with your model? If is easy to implement (And they have allready done 3D print) i see no reason why it should not be in the game.

And I'm not worry that programs like Maya will have not future. If you look at the spore you will see that it haves limitations of is own. Spore in many ways is a swissarmy knife but like a swiss army knife it not the optimal tool for every job.
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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2006, 01:00:16 pm »
Sorry YoktO.

But this topic isn't really about the 3D models at all!

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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2006, 01:06:26 pm »
No is about a Maxis Printing Service. But that do ties in with the ability to export data from Spore. If EA (or Maxis) feel that they need a monopoly on the ability to print then i feel that their actually hurting the community.
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2006, 01:10:41 pm »
How would that hurt the community? On other games can you print out cards? No. Then why should they HAVE to let you print out cards in Spore?

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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2006, 01:21:53 pm »
I think it's very likely that Maxis will release official rules for the trading card game. Will Wright is too smart to not do that.

I've always like trading card games, but I never really got into them because you have to waste tons of money on buying them. Yes, games are fun, but spending so much money on a single game just to have a tiny bit more variety in your deck is just plain stupid. It's worked so far because little kids are too stupid to realize that all that money could have bought them a ton of different games rather than wasted on a single one that they'll eventually grow out of and then they just have a pile of painted pieces of paper that are good for nothing.

And that's exactly why I'm very exited about the Spore trading card game, because you don't have to buy the cards! Sure, Maxis might sell official prints, but you won't have to buy them. Even if they don't include a feature in the game to print them out, you can simply take a screenshot and print them out yourself (if you really really wanted physical cards). Will Wright's not an idiot, he knows there's no way to stop people from printing their own cards, and I doubt he would even want to. The whole point of this game is about expressing your creativity, so I think it's likely that they'll include a printing option built into the game. But, you'll definitely be able to download them into your cell phone and most likely some other mobile gaming device, like a DS or a PSP, because that'll allow you to play the card game electronically. Personally, I'd much prefer that format, and I guarantee you most people will.

And if there's people out there who for some reason believe that throwing their money away on cards is the best way to spend their money, then by all means, buy the official prints (if they do make them).

However, a physical card game version will be very limited compared to the electronic version. In case you didn't notice, there's going to be millions of planets that you can visit in Spore, which you could never finish in your entire lifetime. That means there's an endless supply of cards. How exactly do you expect to carry around a deck of 10,000 cards or more? With a handheld device, it's no problem.

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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2006, 01:26:35 pm »
I think your missing the point. It wouldn't be to have every card out there. Just imagine, your collection of cards would be completely different from the collection of cards that the person your playing has.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2006, 01:28:43 pm »
The thing is, they COULD do this, but they won't.
The card system is just for telling the creatures stats/basic info.
There is no game behind it.

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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2006, 01:32:40 pm »
Cool would be if you had a profile name. And then when u get a card it says: Created by: Detoxicated
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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2006, 01:36:51 pm »
Cool would be if you had a profile name. And then when u get a card it says: Created by: Detoxicated

And if you could add your own backstory to the creature.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2006, 01:38:47 pm »
You can print them on your own!
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« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2006, 01:41:30 pm »
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How would that hurt the community? On other games can you print out cards? No. Then why should they HAVE to let you print out cards in Spore?
It limits the creative freedom of the user. I'm might want to print out card with extra text or modify them in a other way.

The community get hurt actually in several ways. First we you must understand that a community may potential to grow and express new ideas is what i value. So anything that limits any of this thing accrual hurt the community in depend of want other community's allready have. But i can somewhat understand if you do no like to express you self creatively. You might find you think you ar not good enough or simply to lazy to do anything. That OK. But i do no think that is should have any effect on how other want to use Spore.

And even if you can not print your own card from the game it would just be a artificial limitation. Print Screen could easily be use as a work around the no print limitation. So in the end it would only hurt the majority of players that do no know that mush about computers.

For me the biggest reason why i do not like the idea of a "EA printing monopoly" is that it conveys the message that you are not smart enough or trustworth enough to use this tool.
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« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2006, 01:42:27 pm »
You can print them on your own!
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Oh, right, I did read that. Thanks for the quote. So yeah, Will states that not only can you print them out and put them on a cell phone, but also that there is actually a card game behind it.

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« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2006, 02:02:18 pm »
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How would that hurt the community? On other games can you print out cards? No. Then why should they HAVE to let you print out cards in Spore?
It limits the creative freedom of the user. I'm might want to print out card with extra text or modify them in a other way.

The community get hurt actually in several ways. First we you must understand that a community may potential to grow and express new ideas is what i value. So anything that limits any of this thing accrual hurt the community in depend of want other community's allready have. But i can somewhat understand if you do no like to express you self creatively. You might find you think you ar not good enough or simply to lazy to do anything. That OK. But i do no think that is should have any effect on how other want to use Spore.

And even if you can not print your own card from the game it would just be a artificial limitation. Print Screen could easily be use as a work around the no print limitation. So in the end it would only hurt the majority of players that do no know that mush about computers.

For me the biggest reason why i do not like the idea of a "EA printing monopoly" is that it conveys the message that you are not smart enough or trustworth enough to use this tool.

Yes but what I'm saying is that not being able to print doesn't take away any creative freedom, you never had any creative freedom to print anything in other games. If Spore didn't have the creature editor then there would be no creativity involved whatsoever so dont think of not being able to print creatures as a limit to creative freedom, but think of the ability too print them as a way to enhance your creative freedom. Face it too, most people would not be able to make quality prints of the cards.

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« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2006, 02:23:30 pm »
That argument dose not hold. You could take away everthing from spore and give the player a empty box. But no one would buy and their would be no community. So you see by limiting the freedom the player have you will actually hurt the community even if no other game gives you that freedom.

(Note that a empty box can be a wounderfull tool for expressing you creativity but if i want a box i buy a box. No some game made by EA that claimers is a full game.)
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2006, 02:43:07 pm »
Nobody is forcing Maxis to even have cards. What if somebody made a really good videogame where you could build awesome castles and such and then have  the company ship you a scale model of it for a fee, would you be upset that you cant print out the blueprints yourself? No because you still made the damn castle in the game and they could do a better job building the castle then you could.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2006, 02:48:01 pm »
What if i can make it cheaper?

Can you tell me why a monopoly is good for the consumer?
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2006, 02:50:35 pm »
How is them able to sell something thats theirs a monopoly?

Lets just forget about the whole them not letting us print thing and say they gave us the choice to print it ourselves or buy packs of cards at stores with random cards and order custom cards for a bit more money from maxis. After realising the quality of the cards that Maxis prints, only stupid people who think their "indy" would print the cards.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2006, 03:02:22 pm »
Cool would be if you had a profile name. And then when u get a card it says: Created by: Detoxicated

The cards in the spore video that has Robin Williams.. Will Wright talked a little about the cards in the sporepedia and he pointed at the bottom of the card that looks kinda like a willosaurus. the card had a player name at the bottom, it was.. Jenna *something*. So yes, your creations will have your name attached.

And he said things about being able to use the sporepedia cards for a card game, so we'll see what happens when it happens.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2006, 03:07:06 pm »
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How is them able to sell something thats theirs a monopoly?

Lets just forget about the whole them not letting us print thing and say they gave us the choice to print it ourselves or buy packs of cards at stores with random cards and order custom cards for a bit more money from maxis. After realising the quality of the cards that Maxis prints, only stupid people who think their "indy" would print the cards.
So is theirs? That your argument? It was not they how made the creatures and objects. It was players! Sure the players used their tools but that dose not make it players creatures the property of Maxis or EA. If anyone own the Copyright is should be the player not the company that makes the tools!

And you also assuming that the printing quality the player use is so mush worse then what EA can provide. I may have a very good printer that may compeat with what EA have compared to quality. Or i might find someone who can do the job cheaper then EA with the same or better quality. And what happens if EA discontinue the production? Where shall i get my cards then? What about EA not printing the cards i want (Witch would probably be the creatures and objects i have made my self) what then?

And let make my self clear. I'm not against EA provining the severice of printing card. But i am against them limiting thins so that only they can do it!
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2006, 03:10:57 pm »
After realising the quality of the cards that Maxis prints, only stupid people who think their "indy" would print the cards.

Or people who dont want to waste their money.

At the end of the day a card is just a piece of paper with information on it. If I were to get into the card game and I had two options:

 1) Go out to the store and spend money for a Spore Booster Pack with X amount of cards. OR
 2) Hit the print button and get twice as many cards for free in less time then it would take to go to the store.

I'm pretty sure I, and many others would go for option 2, especially if pritned cards work in game, which the WW quote seems to support.
I personally don't see the big whoop about the card game. I'll be too busy creating creatures, worlds and managing galaxies to get excited over a trading card game.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2006, 03:13:32 pm »
I think the card are more a fun idea. A idea that can be ruined by big biz.  >:(
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2006, 03:14:45 pm »
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So is theirs? That your argument? It was not they how made the creatures and objects. It was players! Sure the players used their tools but that dose not make it players creatures the property of Maxis or EA. If anyone own the Copyright is should be the player not the company that makes the tools!
They could easily put something in the end user agreement when you install the game.

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And you also assuming that the printing quality the player use is so mush worse then what EA can provide. I may have a very good printer that may compeat with what EA have compared to quality.
This game isn't meant for people with freaking printing presses in their houses, people who buy this game are most likely casual gamers.

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Or i might find someone who can do the job cheaper then EA with the same or better quality. And what happens if EA discontinue the production? Where shall i get my cards then? What about EA not printing the cards i want (Witch would probably be the creatures and objects i have made my self) what then?
What happens if EA shuts down the Spore servers? The production of anything is never permanent. As for what cards you want, I've stated several times that they would have to let you pick the ones you want custom printed as well as the ones that they put in the packs of cards.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #45 on: May 12, 2006, 03:16:20 pm »
2) Hit the print button and get twice as many cards for free in less time then it would take to go to the store.

If only the cards were actually cards and not cards printed on a crappy piece of paper. You can't really make a deck out of those can you?

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2006, 03:25:24 pm »
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So is theirs? That your argument? It was not they how made the creatures and objects. It was players! Sure the players used their tools but that dose not make it players creatures the property of Maxis or EA. If anyone own the Copyright is should be the player not the company that makes the tools!
They could easily put something in the end user agreement when you install the game.
I'm aware of that but that dose not make it anymore theirs. I do not object to this idea and find it as a missuse of copyright law. Also it would not hold up in many courts at least not in Sweden. (Can no say for USA because of all the controversy with Copyright laws in US right now.)
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And you also assuming that the printing quality the player use is so mush worse then what EA can provide. I may have a very good printer that may compeat with what EA have compared to quality.
This game isn't meant for people with freaking printing presses in their houses, people who buy this game are most likely casual gamers.
And do casual gamers want to buy cards or print them the card self? I think the answer is pretty simple to that question. If a casual gamers do print a card it will be a card with their creature or their friends creature. Buying a booster pack will not help them.
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Or i might find someone who can do the job cheaper then EA with the same or better quality. And what happens if EA discontinue the production? Where shall i get my cards then? What about EA not printing the cards i want (Witch would probably be the creatures and objects i have made my self) what then?
What happens if EA shuts down the Spore servers? The production of anything is never permanent. As for what cards you want, I've stated several times that they would have to let you pick the ones you want custom printed as well as the ones that they put in the packs of cards.
I will still have my creature on my computer and will still be able to print in. And i could allway do more or even start my own community to share creatures.
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2006, 03:28:46 pm »
Okay whatever. What about people who dont even play video games and just want a nice card game? It's called a franchise people, it doesn't have to just be a video game, I mean its owned be E freaking A, their pretty much in for the money, and the people who would want to buy the cards would be happy with them.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2006, 03:30:32 pm »
And their is nothing that stops them from printing card.

Why should the player be stopped? Give me one good reason.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2006, 03:31:31 pm »
Why should the play be stopped? Give me one good reason.

What play? MacBeth?

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2006, 03:33:42 pm »
Why should the play be stopped? Give me one good reason.

What play? MacBeth?
Don't be a that way. You know very well that it was a spelling error.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2006, 03:35:42 pm »
Okay dude. This is now the third time I said this. They should let you print the cards but should also sell them for those who want higher quality. Period. No arguments about how you could make them high quality because thats all up to the person whos printing them and who wants to go out and buy printing equipment.

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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2006, 03:37:41 pm »
Well that want i have argued for all the time!  :P
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2006, 03:39:06 pm »
Haha this whole thread is me and you arguing. Lets hope some people on the Spore team see this thrread and get ideas! They'll see how there is a demand for being able to print and buy cards so they'll do both!

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2006, 03:45:16 pm »
Yeah i hope so. If their is enough of a demand of card printed by EA then they should do it. Then everyone will be happy.  :D
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« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2006, 03:47:42 pm »
Haha but the upside is that now I'll remmember who you are in the forums! Gaming Steve Spore community forever!

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2006, 05:08:10 am »
I assumed by looking at the cards it would be like a game of 'Top Trumps'.  If this is right even if Maxis do sell the cards i would assume it won't be very expensive.

Remember though that there is going to be literally millions of creatures made, not to mention planets/plants etc.  Do you really think that Maxis could make a printed card for every single one of them?  I very much doubt that there will be printed versions of the cards, and even if there was i would expect it to be limited to Maxis designs and maybe competition winners.

More likely it will be a mini game that can be played on mobile phones, handheld consoles etc.  You would download the content to the device and then find a friend who had also downloaded there choices to their device.  Battle would commence (maybe in a top trump stylee) and the winner would get to keep the cards that he won.  With a bit of luck this will extend to an online pc mini game that others the same thing.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2006, 06:05:02 am »
Another purpose of the self-printed cards is to show your creature to other people you meet in real life, so you don't need to explain how it looks like (which can be veeeeeeery difficult with so many weird looking beasts)  and what it's abilities are. Like: "Recently, I flew through a alien solarsystem, when I met this awesome creature *shows card*"
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« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2006, 07:18:12 am »
Also if they did sell the cards would they put the author on? it could get tricky, legally, depending upon what the original game disclaimer says

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2006, 07:49:47 am »
i would rather have the game on a handheld device or on the PC rather than just buying or printing them. That way you could only use the cards you meet in the game, and you wouldn't have the hassle of real cards. It would be better for everyone.

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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2006, 08:07:06 am »
Yeah, the cards would be more memoribilia of your creature than anything else... if i chose to print it out (on my photoprinter :P).
Sure, you can try to make a card game out of it, but I don't care for playing card games too much, and I just don't think it's worth buying a worthless pack of cards from EA, when I'd rather be playing the actual spore game...
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #61 on: May 14, 2006, 10:49:22 am »
Magic the Gathering: Online do have some sort of printing service. You can buy you cards you have won online or something like that. WotC would probably be the best subcontractor for the job.

(But again let player print their own cards if they wish. Read my early posts on the subject so that you do not believe that I'm a for a EA printing monopoly.)
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Re: Maxis Printing Service! (idea)
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2006, 03:05:13 am »
Maybe there is gonna be a top 10 of most downloaded creatures on the EA website. then every month they print that top 10 on cards and sell them as booster packs. that way people will put more effort in creating creatures, buildings, planets or whatever to get into that top 10. thus getting nicer cards (keeping the quality high).

- EA won't have too much printing costs because they don't have to print everything
- there will be a select amount of different cards to collect (making it collectable)
- people keep creating new creatures and stuff, trying to get into that top 10 (thus constantly expanding the database)
- Gamers will be extra rewarded if they find their own creature in a booster pack.

to make sure that everybody gets a chance: if Your card has been selected to be placed in a booster pack, you will be removed from the top 10 and be placed in some kind of 'Hall of Fame' (just a database of all printed cards). so if your on 12th place in June.. you'll be on second place in July (as long as nobody makes a nicer creature then yours), and your card will be printed in July..


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