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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2006, 08:18:45 pm »
Uranus is mostly methane. And it rains diamonds there sometimes.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2006, 08:19:20 pm »
Uranus is mostly methane. And it rains diamonds there sometimes.

No joke.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2006, 08:35:58 pm »
Even if a gas giant was mostly hydrogen, you would need oxygen in plentiful amounts to make it burn.  Don't forget there are storms aplenty on Jupiter.  But if you could create a nice nuclear explosion, and keep things compressed at the core, and assume there was enough material to make this last: you could start fusion.  Probably wouldn't last too long though.  Wouldn't make a star or anything.  In fact, since there isn't enough mass to keep it contained, it would probably overexpand, which might end the fusion and things might resettle or just blow, depending on too many things for me to consider right now.
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2006, 03:17:37 am »
A fun thing to do would be to build up a gas giant until it became a star, perhaps by throwing some nearby gas planets into it or something... needless to say, any insignificant moons nearby would probably not survive such an event.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2006, 03:29:54 am »
Why does the moon have to be restricted to gas giants? Any terrestrial planet, like Earth can have many moons too. If you have a colony on the moon and the earth is destroyed (which we know is possible), The colony on the moon would still probably survive. Where it ends up, i don't know.
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2006, 03:54:21 am »
Why does the moon have to be restricted to gas giants? Any terrestrial planet, like Earth can have many moons too. If you have a colony on the moon and the earth is destroyed (which we know is possible), The colony on the moon would still probably survive. Where it ends up, i don't know.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2006, 05:48:41 am »
Why does the moon have to be restricted to gas giants? Any terrestrial planet, like Earth can have many moons too. If you have a colony on the moon and the earth is destroyed (which we know is possible), The colony on the moon would still probably survive. Where it ends up, i don't know.

That is providing that any resulting shockwave doesnt destroy said moon. If it was a more gentle 'ending' (HG2G Movie perhaps) then the moon may either drift off elsewhere, or follow another orbit around its star in Spore ;)

What happened to the moon would depend on what direction it was travelling relative to the the sun and solarsystem.  It might fly away, go into orbit itself around the sun or end up crashing into the sun or another planet.
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2006, 06:01:02 am »
Destroying a gas giant would be catastrophic. I'm guessing the moon would be destroyed...

Plus, how exactly would you destroy something with a less than definite surface... You'd have to ignite the planet!



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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2006, 06:34:24 am »
Gas giants do have solid cores holding the materials together. You blow that up and the planet goes bye bye.
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2006, 06:49:13 am »
Even if you could start fusion in a gas giant Jupiters size, it would never sustain itself because it would require those pressures and temperature be constant but because they're artificial they would go away as soon as our equipment melted.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2006, 06:56:28 am »
wow you learn something everyday.

If we ever make it there I guess diamonds are pretty much worthless then.

they're pretty much worthless anyway.  It's just that DeBiers has very cleverly cornered the market using a variety of strategies.

1- monopoly (would be illegal in North America)
2- hoarding (they release something like 10% of the diamonds they have, maybe less)
3- social engineering (a stroke of absolute genius.  Through advertising Debiers was able to turn diamonds into a sacrament as solid as marriage itself.  Thus, whenever ANYONE gets married it is expected that they buy a diamond either for proposal or the marriage itself. They have convinced the world that diamonds are a symbol of true love.)
4- more social engineering (another stroke of genius.  Debiers has presented diamonds as heirlooms, meaning that any diamond sold will stay within the family and so almost never return to the market, and therefore Debiers constantly remains in control of the amount of diamonds in circulation.  A sold diamond for Debiers is roughly the equivilent of a destroyed diamond.)

They're tightly squeezed lumps of charcoal... and not even very pretty... and the diamonds that most of us can afford are just little specks of 'twinkle'.  I'd much rather have a ruby or topaz myself...  much prettier.

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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2006, 10:43:04 am »
No ideal how gas giants are constructed, but I do know most of them are many times the size of the earth, so whose to say there aren't chunks of planet sized rocks floating around in there? And if so, why not life?



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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2006, 10:58:04 am »
Assuming you could have life that could live on the chemicals present in the atmosphere and creature could withstand the gravity, maybe.  But it would be floating, would most likely be bacteria, wouldn't be able to get started creating structures even if it were a large creature, etc.  Intelligent life is a big no for gas giants
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2006, 12:43:08 pm »
No ideal how gas giants are constructed, but I do know most of them are many times the size of the earth, so whose to say there aren't chunks of planet sized rocks floating around in there? And if so, why not life?

As I said:

Gas giants do have solid cores holding the materials together. You blow that up and the planet goes bye bye.

Its not a chunk its a solid planet.
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Re: Planet Busters
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2006, 04:10:52 pm »
Yeah most gas giants have solid cores (only small ones might not, I dunno about them). For example Jupiter has a layer of metallic hydrogen that it is theorized produces its intense magnetic fields, and underneath that you get other more natural solids.