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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2005, 04:27:36 pm »
They might "leave a legacy" in the sence that your old generation becomes downloadable online  ;)
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2005, 10:48:26 pm »
Evolution words
Didn't I say that? Like, just before. As in evolved X and X can't exsist in the same place?

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« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2005, 07:57:52 am »
Didn't I say that? Like, just before. As in evolved X and X can't exsist in the same place?

Well, they can exist in the same place, but different niches. For example, one kind of monkey evolved from a tree-dwelling monkey to live primarily on the ground. They exist in the same 'place', but different niches. Also, they could be in the process of competing over resources...

It's kind of a complicated gray zone.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2005, 11:23:54 am »
Evolution isn't, as most people think, a forward motion. It CAN make creatures more complex and 'advanced', but it's just as likely to simplify and 'deavolve' them. Usually, it does neither. Usually, it's simple changes such as fur color or tooth shape. To call anything in Spore 'evolution-based' would be wholly and in every way a misuse of the word.

Usually? Well, who has been around long enough to see what evolution "usually" does...
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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2005, 11:37:45 am »
Usually? Well, who has been around long enough to see what evolution "usually" does...

I have to address this. Evolution does NOT compete with 'creationism'. Also, saying that we haven't been 'around long enough to see it' is totally facetous.

Evolution is not limited to biological organisms. Evolution covers societies, languages, fashions, countries, laws, economies, technologies, video games, and anything else in which there are a variety of competing 'populations'. We HAVE been around long enough to see how evolution works - EXACTLY how evolution works, in MANY different fields. Even in biology, we have seen evolution act in distinct and measurable ways, just over the past 70 years or so.

Evolution is an ALGORITHM. It is not religious nor atheist. Some pieces of what people CALL evolution are nothing but theories - and some of them are pretty zonkers - but saying the algorithm "evolution" ITSELF does not exist is like saying that the algorithm of "walking" doesn't exist.

Evolution simply states that things which are more capable of being successful tend to be more successful.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2005, 11:59:10 am »
But we aren't talking evolution with a lowercase e... we're talking about Evolution, the big Darwinian theory of monkeys to men. And I don't see any reason why lower forms of your creature might still be roaming the praries and such later on in the game.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2005, 12:31:51 pm »
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I have to address this. Evolution does NOT compete with 'creationism'.
You're right, but I still don't trust that "monkeybusiness" thing.
In the end it just depends on whether you think/don't think it's God that started the hole thing...how does'nt really matter(to me at least).
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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2005, 01:02:26 pm »
But we aren't talking evolution with a lowercase e... we're talking about Evolution, the big Darwinian theory of monkeys to men. And I don't see any reason why lower forms of your creature might still be roaming the praries and such later on in the game.

In the event of geographic speration, one group may evolve while another doesn't. Something may not evolve (successfully) and retain its original design for a long time horseshoe crabs, sharks, alligator/crocodiles, turtles, dragonfly, mosquito, etc... while some have changed size, they are virtually unchanged over millions of years, yet there has been successful evolutions of many of the same creature listed above. I can happen, will it happen in Spore? Who knows.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #38 on: May 03, 2005, 01:54:27 pm »
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I have to address this. Evolution does NOT compete with 'creationism'.
You're right, but I still don't trust that "monkeybusiness" thing.
In the end it just depends on whether you think/don't think it's God that started the hole thing...how does'nt really matter(to me at least).

My theory is similar to this.  It's not "how" we are here, but simply that we are here.  Why does it matter?  Some people believe in that Darwin nonsense and others believe that a God created things.

I doubt earlier versions of your creature will be in the game - i honestly don't care if they are! 

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #39 on: May 03, 2005, 08:27:50 pm »
Im not a creationist and Im not an evelutionist. I mix the 2 together and use the peices of both theorys to make my own belife.
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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #40 on: May 03, 2005, 09:02:27 pm »
I for one would find it hard to beleive God would pass up on the oppurtunity to create life in such a complex and intricate chance-filled way that a thousand years from now He can still snicker at our constant squabling of how the heaven He did it that way.  ;D

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« Reply #41 on: May 04, 2005, 05:20:52 am »
If I was God I would be doing experiments on infinite worlds, galaxies and universes. Wouldn't you? Like god decided that he would only mess with one at a time. A thousand years is a single day to him apparently. Actually, isn't this what this game is like? Just a big experiment?

Anyway. I can honestly say that people who follow things on faith are dumb. Get a free will damn it! Many sections of the Bible (the English one) say that you shouldn't believe in things blindly and you should find out for yourself. Well are you? Because if you really think about it, evolution not only fits in with creation stuff it makes a hell of a lot more sense when you look at the evidence. If you are going to follow a faith why don't you actually study the book yourself instead of believing someone elses ideas about it? I'd love for you to prove me wrong with quotes and passages because it will show you actually care enough about God to read a pretty short story.

And er...Spore is really cool. I am so on topic.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #42 on: May 04, 2005, 05:45:08 am »
Won't gain anything by proving you wrong, nor will you by proving me wrong. Believing is about trusting in something which cannot be proven right or wrong...
Well, enough said. Let's just stick to our own beliefs/ideas, shall we?

And yes, Spore is really cool!
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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #43 on: May 04, 2005, 07:06:39 am »
If I was God I would be doing experiments on infinite worlds, galaxies and universes. Wouldn't you? Like god decided that he would only mess with one at a time. A thousand years is a single day to him apparently. Actually, isn't this what this game is like? Just a big experiment?

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HEADLINE 2007
GOD SUES WILL WRIGHT
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In a strange turn of events, God Almighty is suing Will Wright over his latest game release, Spore(tm EA). Filed in district court, GA is suing EA and WW for an undisclosed amount of money due to a patent infringment of the creationism software routines. In the case, filed by GA himself and will be self-represented (apparently GA could not locate a lawyer on some sort of moral grounds issue), GA says that he owns the patents on the software routines being used and he has not issued license to EA or WW for their use.

Business analysts say that, if it goes to trial, that it will be extremely expensive. EA has been reported to have money money than God, and they have no moral problems with locating lawyers.

EA says that they actuall hold patents on the software, not God, and that an early version of the Bible proves it iná Book of Genesisá Zero. When questioned about book Zero, EA replied that all counting in programming starts at zero and not one. Humans in legaue with God, have hidden the Zero books from the bible (which contain the copyright notices as well) for a couple thousand years in a long-term attempt to defraud EA from millions of dollars when the time came.

EA claims that God has been the one using the software illegally after obtaining a leaked version of the source code. EA say that they can point to exact spots where, they claim, God used the buggy code and it created items that should just not exist. "Look at the Platapus! We knew it was a bug, but after the leak, we were unable to patch it." says EA Lawyer Dewey Cheatum. EA claims that for thousands of years, God has been in viloation of their copyrights and patents in the use of this software. EA says that the paperwork was being drawn up to sue God and seek legal action to have him shutdown, but that they needed to wait for the courts to finish the peer-to-peer-file-sharing cases before the could proceed.

When asked about the actions, Will Wright gave no comment, but it is reported that the spinning diamond above his head has been red for the last several days.

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Re: Leave a Legacy Behind?
« Reply #44 on: May 04, 2005, 07:57:24 am »
Won't gain anything by proving you wrong, nor will you by proving me wrong. Believing is about trusting in something which cannot be proven right or wrong...
Well, enough said. Let's just stick to our own beliefs/ideas, shall we?

And yes, Spore is really cool!
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