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Upgrading my video card
« on: January 12, 2006, 04:15:12 pm »
Hello everyone i am wandering what i need to know to upgrade my video card, how much it would cost and any suggestions you might have thanks a bunch


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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2006, 04:18:51 pm »
P.S. there are some fun flash games at this site http://www.teagames.com/

Ha! Most random thing to put in that topic.
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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2006, 04:21:08 pm »
First, we need to know about motherboard compatibility. Can you say what kind of video card you have in there now, AGP or PCI?

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2006, 04:25:19 pm »
First, we need to know about motherboard compatibility. Can you say what kind of video card you have in there now, AGP or PCI?

This brings back memories... Let's just say that I am partially technologically inept. And you should follow 762's instructions.
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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 04:28:31 pm »
First, we need to know about motherboard compatibility. Can you say what kind of video card you have in there now, AGP or PCI?

This brings back memories... Let's just say that I am partially technologically inept. And you should follow 762's instructions.

That's right, don't be like Vivec Graham Gass. He never did as I told him to and never got a new video card.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2006, 04:30:54 pm by 762 »

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 04:33:21 pm »
How do i check which video card again i did it once but i cant remember but if i remember right i have an Intel extreme graphics card.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 04:41:39 pm »
Go to Start > Run

In Run type dxdiag

Wait for it to load then click save as...


Open up the file that was created; it will be called dxdiag

Now send us everything up to and including:

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USB Devices
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Simple enough.

Check through the top few lines of the file to see if there is any sensitive info you want deleted. It will only be something like your name.


You can also listen to me.

So who will you choose? Me or that scoundrel 762?



No really, both of us can help you a lot.

Get us the info and we will help.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2006, 06:02:45 pm »
Thanks alot for the help so far here is my info
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/12/2006, 17:58:26
       Machine name: LUCY
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP Pavilion 061
       System Model: DM181A-ABA a305w
               BIOS: Version 3.21
          Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.70GHz
             Memory: 502MB RAM
          Page File: 167MB used, 707MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
     Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
        Chip type: Intel(R) 82845G Graphics Controller
         DAC type: Internal
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2562&SUBSYS_3189109F&REV_03
   Display Memory: 64.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: hp v72 color monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
      Driver Name: ialmrnt5.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.3889 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 8/20/2004 16:11:36, 37951 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: ialmnt5.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 8/20/2004 16:26:00, 737874 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B78E66-6622-11CF-1E7C-8311A2C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x8086
        Device ID: 0x2562
        SubSys ID: 0x3189109F
      Revision ID: 0x0003
      Revision ID: 0x0003
      Video Accel:
 Deinterlace Caps: n/a
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Not Available
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_24C5&SUBSYS_3189109F&REV_02
        Manufacturer ID: 65535
             Product ID: 65535
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5730 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 10/1/2004 10:24:02, 2279424 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS
         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5730 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 10/1/2004 10:24:02, 2279424 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: n/a
           Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  Realtek AC97 Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2006, 06:17:56 pm »
Hmm... okay he has Integrated graphics and sound...

Would have been easier if he had a card but oh well!

Lets see...


Download this...

http://www.ami.com/support/mbid.cfm

Click the first link, send us the results.


Thats all I can think of.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2006, 06:38:33 pm »
it let out to excitable files i could do nothing with and a text document that is gibberish

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2006, 07:01:52 pm »
Click the exe and after it runs it will create a file called "RESULTS".

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2006, 07:29:03 pm »
What do you need a GPU for?
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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2006, 07:30:12 pm »
Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller

Thats why.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 07:31:46 pm »
OK i am having trouble with that i am trying the thing and they don't do anything one says something about MS DOS and the other a black box blinks up for a sec and goes away and the only text things that come out of any of this are in gibberish

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 07:33:41 pm »
Okay.

Well.... how about this.

Do the words AGP or PCI ring any bells when discussing your current motherboard?

Is your computer something you purchased from a large company? If it is what make and model was the computer? (How silly of me to not have asked that earlier!)

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2006, 08:51:50 pm »
OK i am not certain how to find my make and middle but it says hp pavilion a305w and i am guessing that is it.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2006, 08:01:00 am »
Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller

Thats why.
I mean is it for gaming in general, or is he trying to reach the specs for Fear, AOE3, or BF2?


Because you'll need to upgrade a bit more than just a graphics card.
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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2006, 09:10:34 am »
I took a look at his model (DM181A-ABA a305w) and went to HP.com to the support section to get the layout of his MB.  A few things stood out that you should be aware of:

1.) We already know he's got a on-board Intel graphic card (it's got 64meg RAM) and that his has 512meg RAM (it's upgradable to 1GB with either PC2100 or PC2700 ram - but that would mean throwing out his 2 256meg chips and replacing them with 2 - 512meg  sticks - a waste of RAM and a fairly pricey upgrade)

2.) There s no PCI-e or AGP slot available on this model.  Only 3 regular PCI slot - I'm not sure how many are free but what that means is that he is very much limited what kind of video card he can upgrade too.

My recommendation - I'm assuming that the upgrade question is gaming related.  Because of this,  I would be hesitant to buy any upgrades because of the very marginal performance increase vs cost difference.

This is where I gathered those specs - based on the info provided. 

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?dlc=en&lc=en&product=362754&lang=en&cc=us&docname=c00038821#

I hope I was able to help out.

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2006, 11:52:01 am »
Oof!

Djfinny just made me look bad.

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Anyway, I agree with him on the improvement vs cost issue.

You probably just want to wait and save for a new computer. If you want to build one ask us!

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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2006, 01:45:48 pm »
Go to http://www.ibuypower.com and get the Value Pro.  It'll cost less than a uprade in time and money.
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Re: Upgrading my video card
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2006, 03:31:33 pm »
Thanks everone for your help i think i will just wait and buy a new PC.