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Sonic Mania
« on: July 22, 2016, 10:03:42 pm »
Sonic had a 25th anniversary party at SDCC and announced a couple new games, one I'm more interested in is this.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxmtYdEWVzo</a>



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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 11:06:05 pm »
Looks good.

Did it really take them this long?

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 11:36:51 pm »
I wonder why it's not on Wii U. Seems like a good fit for the console.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 04:02:33 am »
Because Sega always make absolutely terrible decisions about Sonic because they don't actually care about the franchise.

I wish they'd just hand Blonic over to Miyamoto or someone so they can actually fix the core gameplay and make it genuinely no fooling fun.
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 05:53:57 am »
Sonic had a 25th anniversary party at SDCC

That whole livestream was a miracle of nature. You should have been there. Jun Senoue banished the bees with guitar licks so sick they gave me liver failure. And then Sonic x Hello Kitty.

Mania has potential sine it's NOT being done by Sonic Team, but rather the Australian nerd who reverse-engineered Sonic 1, 2 and CD. He should know what he's doing. And that animation of Sonic on the title screen really fills me with hope, it's beautiful. Watch it again.


They also had this (???????)
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh9--2xcKk" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCh9--2xcKk</a>


Edit: Yeah look at this gif.

CRISP.
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 10:07:10 am »
I wonder why it's not on Wii U. Seems like a good fit for the console.

they "unofficially" announced it would also be on the Nintendo NX.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 09:18:28 pm »
Hey.

I'm not saying it will be bad. But I am saying that I am not getting hyped yet because there is a good chance this will be bad.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 06:16:39 pm »
First new song kinda has a good vibe going, very Sonic CD-ish.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio</a>

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2016, 09:22:06 pm »
god damn this is gonna be good

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2016, 10:14:00 pm »
Slinky, the worlds least genre savvy person.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2016, 10:54:48 pm »
haha

We'll see how it goes. Sonic Cycle.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2016, 07:13:53 am »
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2016, 08:50:25 am »
Isn't it just like a bunch of old levels slapped together with like two new stages? How could it not be at least alright?

and the music!!

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2016, 10:37:53 am »
Sonic Mania? When are they gonna release Sonic Depression so we can even out our bipolar Sonic cycles?

Or is the idea that we're already living with Sonic Depression?
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2016, 10:58:04 am »
Isn't it just like a bunch of old levels slapped together with like two new stages?

See that is what worries me. They do this.

They post a really good level and a remake of a original level or something. And then the full game comes out, those two levels are great and the rest of the game sucks.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2016, 03:58:21 pm »
I for one will enjoy it. Because while everyone else expects too much, I'll just enjoy it for what it is.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2016, 04:01:40 pm »
*shrug*

I hope I enjoy it and that they make a good game. Always want good Sonic games.

But I don't expect anything. :u

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2016, 04:13:45 pm »
Considering how far games have gone and where this game is going, it's in a weird spot.

I sometimes visit a store that sells nothing but classic games as far back as the NES. Every now and then a 9-year-ol kid will pick up a NES controller and try to play a game on display and then give up becuase the graphics are lame and it's old. Heartbreaking, but we as adults can be guilty of the same thing. Someone my age criticized Minecraft a while back for being to blocky and low-poly, and yet grew up playing the same classic games as I did.

The point being is that it's easy to judge a simple game like Sonic Mania based on the standards of other games we enjoy more. Our tastes evolve and change and naturally we expect a lot of rich content in games nowadays. But I don't think that's what Sonic Mania is going for. Ask any kid to review Sonic 3 & Knuckles and they'll say it has little to no replay value. Since when was replay value a thing back in the 80s/90s? But it's all we had. Sonic Mania just might be an over-glorified nostalgia trip, but if that's all what I really want from it then I'll be satisfied. Might be niche to ask for a game but that will suit me.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2016, 04:20:08 pm »
Yeah, those are good points. In my defense, SEGA hasn't exactly given me many reasons to be "hype" about Sonic. Hence my dour attitude toward Sonic Mania. Colors was fun on the Wii. And there is a DS RPG I really wanna try that is Sonic-based.

Now, I do try to go into all the new Sonic games (and most games) with an open mind. But I will absolutely joke about how the series has not been that great in the lead-up to release. :3

I hope Mania incorporates something like Mario Maker. For some reason that was my very first impression when I saw the art style and presentation. Then again, maybe they should focus on making Sonic work right first before giving us a toolset.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2016, 04:28:50 pm »
Funny how you mention joking about the series. From what I can tell, whomever is running the official twitter for Sonic the Hedgehog, they crack a lot of jokes about their crummy history and reference a lot of memes, but they're pretty savvy about it.

But you can tell they still care about the franchise.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2016, 04:30:16 pm »
Oh yeah. Their Twitter has been pretty great.

It's like if that fake Kaz Harai account were actually Kaz Harai. :D

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2016, 03:11:38 pm »
"Ma all the gods of furious strong be with you as you crunch opposents, and live like a windrammer as you f**k."
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2016, 09:41:29 am »
lolol

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2016, 05:56:41 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uipt68Tghl8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uipt68Tghl8</a>


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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2016, 09:16:54 am »
HOLY. LOL.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2016, 11:44:30 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKGDC4JaMU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omKGDC4JaMU</a>

Kinda interesting.
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2016, 05:35:09 am »
Quote
"Sonic Amateur Games Expo"

"SAGE"

Wait a minute.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2016, 09:27:07 am »
Ha
No, no, he did. In the everything else section, at least. Officially, this makes him king.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2016, 09:50:07 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqgkPCEIP8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqgkPCEIP8</a>

I don't care too much for the set, but I thought the reference was clever.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2016, 10:02:18 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8zmICz4q_8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8zmICz4q_8</a>

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2017, 10:14:32 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLUSXIqsmQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLUSXIqsmQ</a>

Music seems a little less-punchy than the original. Dunno... just feels smoother and more streamlined and it's not an improvement. Very minor thing though.

So this game looks cool, but again I have to hearken back to my first response:

Looks good.

Did it really take them this long?

Like, I dunno, it does look good. And that's great! But damn... the last 20 years of the Sonic Experient ends with the conceit that "maybe we should have just made Sonic 4."

Head, meet desk.
:U

at least it looks solid

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2017, 06:32:46 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_-myzFUkg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_-myzFUkg</a>

You guys ready to feel again? Gameplay starts at around 50 seconds.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2017, 06:06:52 am »
Why is the camera still positioned so sonic is right in the middle of the screen?

Literally everyone knows that's a bad idea. How are you supposed to GO FAST when you can't see what's in front of sanic's face? HOW???
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2017, 09:06:20 am »
You have to memorize the levels!

I'm just hoping this game doesn't fall into the usual Sonic trap where the levels they show off are the best levels and then you get the game, play those two or three levels, and the rest of the game is mediocre lameness.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PukG97oQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PukG97oQ</a>

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2017, 04:39:24 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw</a>

So wait, are there two Sonic reboots coming out? We'll get to replay Green Hill Zone again (again!) twice in the same year? What the heck is going on?

The gameplay in this video looks pretty bland. Sonic moves weird... the enemy hitboxes are wonky... he looks like he did in that awful attempt at Sonic 4.


Ripping this from a reddit thread: Sonic Generations' version of Green Hill Zone looks better.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXGAUZv3jCw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXGAUZv3jCw</a>



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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2017, 06:12:01 pm »
Why two games at once?  That seems silly.  And it isn't like the latest Mario games like New Super Mario Bros where the focus is on multiplayer, vs Super Mario Galaxy.  These two Sonic games look basically the same.
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2017, 09:22:56 am »
And unfortunately for them, one looks a fair amount worse than the other.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2017, 07:36:22 pm »
they're never going to reach the height that sonic 2 did. sonic 2 is the perfect sonic game and i will physically fight anyone who disagrees

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2017, 07:43:16 pm »
Sonic 2 is a great game, but it isn't Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the best Sonic game.

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2017, 08:34:36 pm »
Okay now fight!
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2017, 08:37:04 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5x1yL2kGT0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5x1yL2kGT0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eh9gLRFfe8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eh9gLRFfe8</a>
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2017, 08:52:45 am »
ALL SONIC OCs ARE NOW CANON.
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« Reply #42 on: May 16, 2017, 09:36:30 am »
psh, nothing personnel
also sonichu

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #43 on: May 16, 2017, 04:55:45 pm »
Oh my god it even has hipster faggot glasses lmfao!!

SEGA does what Nintendon't, I guess. Good work, guys!

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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #44 on: May 16, 2017, 08:32:34 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fGFjoeyc6I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fGFjoeyc6I</a>
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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #45 on: May 30, 2017, 04:52:45 pm »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg</a>

Snazzy!

Just so you're in-the-know, the guy who animated this trailer is the very same guy who made Boxer Hockey, and this comic if you remember...


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Re: Sonic Mania
« Reply #46 on: May 30, 2017, 05:39:56 pm »
Huh, so that's where that's from.
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