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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1035 on: April 11, 2016, 10:51:40 am »
Okay great, but as even WND admitted there, the Colorado GOP decided to choose their delegates this way back in August.

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28700919/colorado-republicans-cancel-2016-presidential-caucus-vote

It's one thing for people outside Colorado to be surprised and upset about this.  But a presidential campaign should know the selection rules for every state, and a frontrunner campaign should have a plan to be competitive.  To only raise a stink about it after the fact makes it look like Trump and his people were either genuinely caught off guard by this system, or thought it was more productive to raise hell after a loss than to put in the ground level effort to be competitive.  Neither looks good to me.

And the argument that Cruz somehow can't or shouldn't play state and local level, ground game politics because he's an outsider is garbage, too.  One, Cruz clerked for the Supreme Court, was the Solicitor General of Texas, and has argued cases before the Supreme Court.  It should not be a surprise that he has a campaign that is aware of the minutia in every state primary, caucus, or convention, and will fight for every delegate.  Two, I don't see how knowing and using the rules of the game and being unpopular with the establishment are mutually exclusive.

The primary system for both parties is needlessly complicated.  But if you want to be president, you have to work in the system as it is.  Trump has been very successful when his opposition was split between multiple candidates, but it may now become clear that it takes more to win than big rallies in friendly areas and angry phone calls to morning news shows.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1036 on: April 11, 2016, 01:55:13 pm »

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1037 on: April 12, 2016, 07:53:53 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiZ5HW2wqU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDiZ5HW2wqU</a>

GOP scrambling to make it look like Ted "Outsider" Cruz didn't play a rigged game and demolish his "outsider" persona entirely.

It's great. All over the news I see the GOP saying that same smug line that Romney used: "Well I did everything I was legally required to do." And they say it right before they admit that it is totally unfair and really not in the spirit of Democracy or their own damn platform which claims to be trying to bootstrap up the poor people. But hey he followed the rules. He followed the rules right after he gave that speech about his good spirit and desire to see everyone play fair. Because it's NO SURPRISE AT ALL that Trump hits the peak of the polls in early August 2015, and then on the 25th of August the rules get changed so that Colorado can't pick the outsiders that it usually picks.

HE HOLDS HIS BIBLE UP.

HE PUTS HIS BIBLE DOWN.

HE CHEATS IN THE ELECTION.

HE IS TED CRUZ.

But then again, hardcore party followers also have zero interest in living in the real world. Their vision starts and ends with the current election. They'll ignore Ted Cruz being an abject liar and a scumbag because they want to win. They'll ignore his role in shutting down the government. They'll ignore is lack of moral fiber because they want to believe that he's a God-fearing man, and if there's anything Republicans love to do, it is believe. Sure, I'll vote for the liar and the cheater because he wants to make the system fair again for me and my family. He just has to lie, cheat, and rig his way to a victory.

I don't give two craps if you dislike Trump. Trump is an ******* and a jerk and some of his qualification are questionable. I've seen so-called anti-Trump people praising Cruz left and right because he's beating the guy they don't like using tactics they'd bemoan on any other day. These people are the same idiots that want freedom and equality for all. But apparently they want Trump to lose more than they want fairness and equality. What a crock of ****. Our society is full of people in masks hiding what they really want and feel. They lie to themselves and each other almost as much as Ted Cruz lies on the campaign trail.

This whole mess is the world that these idiots have created. Enjoy it you disingenuous asses. It's like you've forgotten that last decade of history and in doing so are willing to give a REAL madman the keys. Trump is hated and he is honest about it and doesn't really care. Cruz is hated and he changes his skin because he knows he doesn't have anything to be honest about. At least I can see what I am getting with Trump, which is more than I can say about most politicians I've ever seen in my short time of being conscious to the world around me.

God damn I hope Sanders wins New York and Hillary gets indicted. But I have no issues and no misguided shame in voting for Trump if it comes to it. In his brash behavior and narcissism there is a kernel of honesty and virtue that too many people are willingly ignoring because there is comfort in the machine as it exists. And if that person is you, you deserve Ted Cruz.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1038 on: April 12, 2016, 08:23:07 am »
They'll ignore his lack of moral fiber...

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1039 on: April 12, 2016, 07:36:33 pm »
Oh, and to clarify, I'm no fan of Cruz and I think state conventions are a horrible way to chose who gets the state's delegates.

I assume this is Lion Ted and the establishment's doing, too:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-campaign-fumbles-plea-for-washington-state-delegates-by-sending-it-to-d-c-residents/
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1040 on: April 12, 2016, 08:41:34 pm »
No, that's just normal stupidity.

Trump is definitely capable of that as much as the others.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1041 on: April 13, 2016, 09:34:41 am »
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhPKFUjUcr0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhPKFUjUcr0</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPjH2yW4VQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smPjH2yW4VQ</a>

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1042 on: April 13, 2016, 09:58:57 am »
I respond with this, Pat:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrVYD2Ac6nM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrVYD2Ac6nM</a>

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1043 on: April 13, 2016, 10:06:41 am »
my brain melted

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1044 on: April 13, 2016, 04:15:07 pm »
HIGH ENERGY

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1045 on: April 13, 2016, 06:04:32 pm »
my brain melted

One of the benefits of already having your brain melted and scrambled is that there is nothing trippy enough to phase you.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1046 on: April 13, 2016, 07:42:02 pm »
You haven't been high until you've been high on parliamentary procedure.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1047 on: April 13, 2016, 09:57:33 pm »
We need more stories about one armed midget lumberjacks in politics.
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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1048 on: April 14, 2016, 09:48:28 am »
Bernie did a mic drop on the Nightly Show.

He's just another young cool dude like us millennials.

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Re: 2016 Elections
« Reply #1049 on: April 14, 2016, 11:26:37 am »
Sam is basically right, he's just cranky.