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Civilization Beyond Earth
« on: April 12, 2014, 06:22:14 am »
So there have been rumours of a new Civilization game being announced at PAX today, and there was recently this gaf leak. Basically Civilization 5 on alien worlds? Like Alpha Centauri 2? (Note - can't actually be called that. EA owns the IP.) Get hype!
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2014, 07:49:39 am »
It'll probably be the mobile component.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2014, 09:07:24 am »
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2014, 09:36:58 am »
Aaaand trailer.

And here's a Game Informer article.

Finally, this is what the official site says:

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Sid Meier's Civilization®: Beyond Earth™ is a new science-fiction-themed entry into the award-winning Civilization series. Set in the future, global events have destabilized the world leading to a collapse of modern society, a new world order and an uncertain future for humanity. As the human race struggles to recover, the re-developed nations focus their resources on deep space travel to chart a new beginning for mankind. As part of an expedition sent to find a home beyond Earth, you will write the next chapter for humanity as you lead your people into a new frontier and create a new civilization in space. Explore and colonize an alien planet, research new technologies, amass mighty armies, build incredible Wonders and shape the face of your new world. As you embark on your journey you must make critical decisions. From your choice of sponsor and the make-up of your colony, to the ultimate path you choose for your civilization, every decision opens up new possibilities.
FEATURES
Seed the Adventure: Establish your cultural identity by choosing one of eight different expedition sponsors, each with its own leader and unique gameplay benefits. Assemble your spacecraft, cargo & colonists through a series of choices that directly seed the starting conditions when arriving at the new planet.
Colonize an Alien World: Explore the dangers and benefits of a new planet filled with dangerous terrain, mystical resources, and hostile life forms unlike those of Earth. Build outposts, unearth ancient alien relics, tame new forms of life, develop flourishing cities and establish trade routes to create prosperity for your people.
Technology Web: To reflect progress forward into an uncertain future, technology advancement occurs through a series of nonlinear choices that affect the development of mankind. The technology web is organized around three broad themes, each with a distinct victory condition.
Quest System: Quests are injected with fiction about the planet, and help to guide you through a series of side-missions that will aid in resource collection, unit upgrades, and advancement through the game.
Orbital Layer: Build and deploy advanced military, economic and scientific units that provide strategic offensive, defensive and support capabilities from orbit.
Unit Customization: Unlock different upgrades through the tech web and customize your units to reflect your play style.
Multiplayer: Up to 8 players can compete for dominance of a new alien world.
Mod support: Robust mod support allows you to customize and extend your game experience.
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2014, 09:56:32 am »
total doge

day 4 purchase

Also makes me glad I haven't bought into GalCiv III yet. :F

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtYWqE55s24" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtYWqE55s24</a>

You see the trailer? Tesla didn't post it. SO LAME.
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2014, 10:44:37 am »
I uh... I did post it...
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 11:07:05 am »
HEH HEH

OHKAY

Can't wait! Looks nice and the promise of a non-linear progression system will add a lot of replayability.

Pics from the article.





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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 12:18:08 pm »
An adventure style civ?

Cool beans that sounds so neat
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 11:33:02 am »
There are already plenty of good adventure-style civ-like games like this or this.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2014, 11:42:29 am »
AoW3 is supremely disappointing

The other one I am skeptical of but looks interesting, might pick it up
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2014, 05:16:14 pm »
We got gameplay!
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uex9KqITM2Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uex9KqITM2Q</a>

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2014, 06:03:38 pm »
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2014, 06:18:35 pm »
Man, I'm excited for this!

I've been getting into 4X games of all types recently and this looks like a good one. Personally I never played Alpha Centauri, maybe I should get around to that before I play this?

Tech tree reminds me a little of Endless Space's.
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2014, 06:35:57 pm »
It does seem kind of similar. Though I think this one really forces you into a path, which sounds nice. I almost wish each step had tech options to choose, so maybe you can only pick one out of two or three techs at any given point, further pushing a specialization of some kind. But that would probably be hell to balance.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2014, 10:55:23 am »
omg.. you can ride the worms... omg

I can't wait for this game. :)

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2014, 08:43:40 am »
Okay so this is out and it's basically Civ 4: Revolution except it's in space. I might pick it up since I wasn't a huge civ V fan but like the idea of this spin off.

Anyone have it yet? Thoughts of your own?
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2014, 08:47:00 am »
Waiting on the turn locked demo,which should be showing up soon.

edit:The demo is up
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2014, 01:13:47 pm »
It's not bad. Feels a lot like Civ V.

I really like the "roguelike" aspect, though on my second playthrough I got all the same stuff in more or less the same order. So that system seems pretty limited. It's cool but I feel like 50 bucks was 10 dollars too expensive.


**EDIT**
Was just in the shower thinking about this. The tech web is hard to follow as well. It needs more color.

I like this game but it's very similar to Civ V and not necessarily to its benefit. But I will be playing this a lot. Though honestly I think I'll have more fun when cheat mods or a good trainer comes out. Hoping by tonight for a trainer. It's so much like Civ V I think I would rather just run around romping people and doing weird stuff. :U
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2014, 07:31:24 pm »
Have you played Civ V with the Brave New World expansion? It really bring the end-game up.

I dunno this game is weird. I'm enjoying it but the stuff I wished they would have fixed like the AI is almost exactly the same.


**EDIT**
Boom! There's the trainer. 8)
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2014, 10:22:42 pm »
I'm enjoying it but the stuff I wished they would have fixed like the AI is almost exactly the same.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2014, 10:42:48 pm »
Even the text is the same.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2014, 10:45:07 am »
Demo is out.

I like this game so far, but I feel like it might be 25% off come Christmas and am hesitant to go full purchase price.
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2014, 02:34:54 pm »
This is definitely the kind of game you want to wait for a sale to buy.

Sucks, I pre-purchased it two days ago. Would definitely take that one back if I could. This game is not worth the full price.

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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2014, 03:22:55 pm »
Yes
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2014, 08:00:37 pm »
Yeah every planet is that with different land forms.

If the "decision" segments were more varied and dynamic and impact it could solve a lot of this. Huge missed opportunity.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2014, 08:13:28 pm »
Pandora: First Contact is a similar game for anyone that wanted something slightly different.

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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2014, 09:05:26 pm »
The more I play the more I feel like this game is just a really good mod.

I've played some mods over the years that are about this good (some better). But this is still not worth the full price of a game. I'm not sure what I paid for or what they've been doing all this time. The core Civ V experience is there... well, no it isn't because they took a lot of things out. Maybe expansions will make this game better but I was hoping for more than that. And it makes me very wary about pre-purchasing one of Firaxis' games in the future.

First strike on them in a long time. (anyone remember Civ III: Play the World? :UUU) Gonna have to keep my eyes peeled to make sure they haven't forgotten their business because now I'm a little worried. :(

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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2014, 08:26:52 am »
I think that about puts a bow on it, ChiToes.

Wait for the expansions if you haven't bought this. Or a good sale on the standalone title.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2014, 07:35:25 pm »
It definitely has that "really good mod" feel to it. Still, there's enough new content to put a new spin on things. Keep in mind that Civ5 was in a similar state when it was released, and it was greatly improved just by a couple of patches, even before its expansions. I'll certainly purchase any expansions that'll be released.

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« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2014, 07:38:06 pm »
Yeah I feel similarly.

Because I love Civ and Civ V, this games is definitely fun to me. But if you're not like me or Dragon, might want to wait. Would you say that is a fair assessment, Dragon?

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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2014, 10:32:09 pm »
Yeah, it is undoubtedly a great, fun game, but it suffers from the same thing Civ 5 did on release. It just feels really lacking when compared to the previous iteration which has had 4 years of patches and expansions.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2014, 11:34:20 am »
Andry Joe review gave it a 6/10 and verified the concerns I had that you all had raised
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2014, 04:53:03 pm »
Joe mentioned Endless Legend in his review. It is made by the folks that made Endless Space.

My questions: Is Endless Legend good? Is it more complete than Endless Space? And are they still working on Endless Space? They were moving slowly the last time I played.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2014, 08:11:37 pm »
BLEH!

Even set to quick speed this game feels slow. I don't want to play it anymore. :|

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« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2014, 12:42:11 am »
Pat. How can I sum up "Pat?"

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 06:39:43 pm »
So, I just gave the demo a try. After reading all those bad reviews and watching those rather bland preview videos and images, I have to admit I was positively surprised. I expected worse.

That is not to say, it doesn't have any flaws, but I like quite a few of the things they did.

For one, I'm a sucker for those mini events they had back in Civ 4 and so I'm glad they made this quest system, which also features some kinds of mini decisions etc. Though, I wish they would have given it a different name. Quests? Really?

However, the interface and world are just poorly handled:

The interface, while looking sleek and sci-fi I guess, is very hard to read, especially when you're not used to it. And even when you're used to it, you still have trouble making out the different shapes, because colour is used very sparingly. Building units and buildings in a city is horrible, because the entries lack the little coloured icons from the main game, which really helps navigating the build menu.

The same goes for the technology net, although ten times worse. I love the idea, but the execution is... not good. Again, the lack of actually little clearly distinguishable icons makes it hard to navigate, even when you know what you're looking for. On top of that having all the technologies radiate outwards makes it difficult to compare different paths at a glance. I guess it's an inherent problem with how a technology net works, but man, there must be a better way.

Then you have the problem that in the virtue overview it's hard to see which virtue you already have unlocked.

And don't get me started on the terrain. It took me a whole while (I already had my first outpost) until I realized that grassland, desert and plains were actually different terrains. They all looked the same to me when I didn't look to closely. Basically the entire planet is a big bluish-greenish blob. And miasma is so hard to spot that I actually have to resort on the tooltip to tell me if it's on a tile or not.

Interestingly all those negative points are solely about usability and not content. The actual content is fine, but the way it's presented leaves much to be desired. I suppose I'll wait a year or so, when it'll be bundled together with a bunch of expansions and cheaper in total.
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2015, 06:40:29 pm »
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« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2015, 02:54:34 am »
Joe mentioned Endless Legend in his review. It is made by the folks that made Endless Space.

My questions: Is Endless Legend good? Is it more complete than Endless Space? And are they still working on Endless Space? They were moving slowly the last time I played.

Endless legend is great but it does come with its own problems.
It really takes the civ formula and cuts out all the dumb ****, and then adds more cool stuff.
For example, there are provinces that divide the world. And you can only have 1 city per province.
If you claim a province, you can take advantage of all the resources in that province. And you don't just have workers build farms everywhere, instead you expand the city itself as it grows larger.
This prevents a whole lot of messy busywork and also prevents AI's and players from spamming towns every 2 tiles. It's very well executed.

It also feels like you're more in control of what you're doing.For example, all researches have very clear immediate influence on your empire, and there is no research tree.
At first I thought I wouldn't want the tree to be gone, but being able to pick any research of your age/tier means you get to focus on what you want your empire to be, rather than going down roughly the same path as everyone else. To unlock the next age/tier of research, you simply need 9 of the tier you are in to go to the next.
You can also outfit all of your unit types with equipment, with a lot of different gear focusing on different stats or playstyles. And then there are also hero's that you can level up.
Oh and quests that give you neat rewards. And you are pretty much exploring the whole game rather than just the start of the game. Oh and each race has a completely different playstyle, instead of just a small bonus. Oh and the game looks great, it looks like a big colorful game board. So yeah, plenty of stuff to be excited about.

Now for the bad though. People complained a lot about the AI when this launched, they made a lot of improvements since then, but they are still kind of lacking. I still have to play a game at way higher difficulties, and maybe that's where they really shine,  but in my experience they haven't really done much of anything and lag behind really quickly.
Also, the combat is really neat, but at a certain point one civ is going to be stronger than another. Because they either focused more on getting better gear, or their units are just much higher level. And then combat will get very one sided. At that point you will always click auto resolve instead of doing the combat yourself. Oh and the game crashes for me, a lot.

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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2015, 06:18:27 am »
Wow thank you for all of this info.

The AI problems don't bug me so much since Civ's AI is also broken. Will have to try this game out!

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« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2015, 10:13:16 am »
So.

I just went to start a game of Beyond Earth. And I was going through the setup for a game and as I clicked through the options I started to remember the game and what I would be doing for the next few hours. And I closed it and started up Civ V. :|

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« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2015, 11:31:54 am »
Welp, I doubt an expansion is coming considering they're making that other game, so... hopefully that one's better?
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Re: Civilization Beyond Earth
« Reply #41 on: January 25, 2015, 12:27:02 pm »
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« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2015, 02:45:29 pm »
So I played through one game during the free weekend.
Here's just a few pros and cons with this game.

+ Alignment system
+ Costumizable units based on alignment
+ Alien world

- Lacks personality
- Alignment system could have been deeper
- Only one type of alien world
- Selfish and dumb AI as usual. Example "Ally asks me to join him for war, help him out. A bunch of turns later I need help to go to war or else we all lose, 'Nah I don't want to go to war'. Won that game but not thanks to my ally".
- Same alignment civs see you as a rival, which doesn't make sense if you go for Transcendence victory.
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2015, 02:55:33 pm »
I do appreciate the irony of having to obliterate your transcendence rival
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