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Phonetic English Language
« on: December 16, 2013, 04:51:45 pm »
many guides exist to help persons with spelling, they aren't languages so much as a phonetic format which you learn, they oft include pauses/breaks and special characters/symbols, imo the more intuitive guides make do just with latin letters, this is my attempt at a latin alphabet which could be used for an analog of english

it isn't a perfect phonetic analog for english, just an approximate alternative

the natural portion is simply the alphabet (single characters), it does away with q and v, replaces c with (ah) and x with (th-)

the synthetic portion just lists some approximate sounds that can be made by stringing the naturals together, some had to be defined and others make sense if you pronounce them, either way they should be intuitive

« Last Edit: December 28, 2013, 02:00:52 pm by PikMini »



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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 04:59:34 pm »
I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do here.  Is this a mental exercise, for a game or project, or are you actually wanting to reform the english language?
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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 05:07:16 pm »
it is just an initial idea to latinize the symbols used for phonetic english so they could be written much like regular english... but it would be phonetic, by creating this topic i am showing my proposal to everyone and seeking comment

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 05:28:02 pm »
Suggestion: Use capitalization.

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 05:46:37 pm »
Oh hey, relevant to my field of study!

For starters, your language uses "x" to indicate the [tʃ] affricate, and "sh" for the [ʃ] phoneme. In other words, the "ch" in "chew" is really just a "tsh." I'd suggest "tsh" instead of "x" as a transcription more faithful to the truth.

Similarly, your "j" letter represents the [dʒ] affricate and you then use "zh" to represent [ʒ] alone. Seems almost counterintuitive! How about having "j" represent the sound in "beige" and "dj" represent the sound in "jam?"

Your vowels could use some work. For example, you say "i" is the [ɪ] phoneme at the top, and then you say "i" represents the [ə] phoneme at the end. ("In" and "il) In some cases, you end up with "i" representing two different vowels in the same word. (For example, "kitten" would be spelled "kitin" despite the two "i"s representing different vowels.) Furthermore, many vowels are something called "dipthongs" which means that they're really just two vowels sound in quick succession. For example, the "i" sound in "lie" is just "a" as in "hat" followed by "ee." Try saying "aaaeee" faster and faster.

I could go on, but I think you'd be better off familiarizing yourself with the International Phonetic Alphabet!
« Last Edit: December 16, 2013, 05:48:29 pm by Spooky Tesla »
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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 06:11:14 pm »
Colour.

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 06:13:29 pm »
Tesla, you study something?

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2013, 04:31:03 am »
Tesla, you study something?

Hurrr.

Also, I just noticed that your own transcription seems wrong, unless you pronounce "English Language" as "Eeng - lish Laneg (?) - widj." That is, starting with an "ee" sound, with no hard "g" in either word, and with the first syllable of "language" sounding like "lane."

I think "icglish lacgwij" makes more sense, using your own alphabet.
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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2013, 09:27:07 am »
The other problem with phoneticizing the English language is dialects. How do you choose which dialect is the "correct" one? No matter what you decide, there will always be a lot of people that don't pronounce things the wag your alphabet does.

Better off creating your own language. Then you can do whatever you want!

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2013, 10:07:15 am »
Yeah, conlangs are fun! Especially when you make your own script or try to design a language radically different from your own.
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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2013, 11:16:56 am »
Are we on conlangs now? I have one! (I am so nerdy but it's what I do:P) I probably won't share unless asked though...
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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2013, 12:02:23 pm »
Well, now you have to share it.

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2013, 12:14:53 pm »
Colour.

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 02:06:39 pm »
Keno, please.

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Re: Phonetic English Language
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2013, 03:27:34 pm »
I think I'll make my own topic instead of hijacking this one. Keep an eye for it!
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