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What are we reading for our first book?

The Difference Engine - William Gibson and Bruce Sterling
6 (37.5%)
Dune - Frank Herbert
5 (31.3%)
The City & The City - China Miéville
4 (25%)
Islands in the Net - Bruce Sterling
0 (0%)
Mindplayers- Pat Cadigan
0 (0%)
Cat's Cradle- Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
0 (0%)
The Accidental Time Machine - Joe Haldeman
1 (6.3%)

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Offline Krakow Sam

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #120 on: April 30, 2013, 11:26:52 am »
Well that's where steampunk seriously went awry at some point. It became fixated on silly gimmicks and totally overlooked the fact that it had roots in cyberpunk which is generally about conspiracies, information control and class struggles.

Steampunk now is just pulp adventure stories with sillier names and gears on everything. As for people who try to be steampunk as a fashion thing, don't even get me started. Yeah that watch you glued to your hat really serves the useful function of warning me not to make eye contact with you, thanks champ.
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2013, 07:24:55 am »
Finally finished reading. I did enjoy the book, however it didn't seem to go anywhere. All these characters did all these things, but none of it seemed to mean anything in the end. :-\

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2013, 09:59:55 am »
C'est la vie!

The character's actions were ultimately pretty important to the outcome of THEIR lives so I guess that's the important thing.

Those punch cards ultimately proved to be a MacGuffin since their use was related to proving some theorem or other which had absolutely no relevance to the goals or ambitions of any of the protagonists.
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2013, 10:28:14 am »
Yeah, the whole thing felt kind of anticlimactic.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2013, 11:45:12 am »
I find a lot of the scifi I've read is like that.

The themes the story deals with are so huge that the protagonists rarely have any impact on how things unfold, except of course for how it affects them personally.
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #125 on: May 06, 2013, 07:38:18 am »
I finally got to the sex part  8) and I'm still working on it. At the part where the Mallory brothers are looking for Capt Swing. I've noticed the woman in the first iteration is never mentioned again.

Twilight is looking pretty good now isn't it? It has a plot.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #126 on: May 06, 2013, 10:14:35 am »
I finally got to the sex part  8)
I've noticed the woman in the first iteration is never mentioned again.

The prostitute Mallory sleeps with is the housemate of Sybil Gerard.

Twilight is looking pretty good now isn't it? It has a plot.

You think the Difference Engine doesn't have a plot? ???
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #127 on: May 06, 2013, 04:24:12 pm »
I totally missed that reference about Sybil. I'll have to go back and reread it. Man you remember every detail.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #128 on: May 07, 2013, 06:27:00 am »
There's clearly a plot right over there, where nobody is interacting with it.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #129 on: May 07, 2013, 09:50:11 am »
The plot is about a man trying to save his reputation, which is at risk because of a selfless act he performed for Lady Ada at the races the day he made his fortune.

Seems pretty straightforward to me.
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2013, 04:19:11 pm »
Soo... time to pick the next book?

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #131 on: May 08, 2013, 07:35:35 am »
Enders Game!! Since the movie is coming out.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2013, 10:11:25 am »
Soo... time to pick the next book?

But we hardly even discussed this one :(

Nobody seems to want to talk about it properly.
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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #133 on: May 08, 2013, 12:25:34 pm »
I do want to talk about it, I just haven't finished.

Maybe you should lead the discussion. Ask what we think or bring up the parts you want to discuss.

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Re: Gaming Steve Book Club! A thing we could do.
« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2013, 02:10:43 pm »
All right, I will!

Since the story is mostly told with Mallory as the protagonist, I often get the feeling that the establishment of the British Empire (the Industrial Radical party, or Rads) and their policies were viewed through rose-tinted glasses a little.

So my talking point is. Do you think the Rads were actually as good for the country as everyone seems to think?
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