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Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« on: December 02, 2010, 05:09:12 am »
So yeah, this is the thread for discussing about the many facets of the site's sci-fi universe, and how they measure up to that of other similar worlds.

For convenience, let's say that it's the Reborn Galaxy alone, with no interference from the Extended Yuuniverse, Phitire-Shadow Era, Novus Cluster, Meridian, New Galaxy or other such parties.







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How does the Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe measure up to...


#1 Star Wars?

While Star Wars may not seem to be as relatively varied in its palette, especially when it comes to humanoids, it does, however, appear to possess an immeasurably greater level of depth.

In the end, while GS might have what it takes to become a great sci-fi universe, it is unfortunately rather lacking in the depth and maturity department, being primarily player-driven and having no "true" overarching story which encompasses the world's somewhat long history of events.



#2 Star Trek?

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#3 The Culture?

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Now, let's begin with a commonly asked one: Star Wars with [and without] the Extended Universe.


So, guys, how does the GS-verse measure up?


Feel free to bring up any suggestions, as long as they aren't snarky or anything.
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 02:57:07 pm »
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 03:40:44 pm »
Poor writing quality overall, better aliens, no overarching plot to hold it together, marginally better ship design.
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2010, 06:42:15 pm »
Actually, I think the writing is a bit better, if only because we explain our creatures' abilities, rather than pulling midi-chlorians from you-know-where.
Definitely better aliens.
We have some major plots, and I think this works a bit better than Star Wars' steered plotline, which makes most of the creatures plot devices.
MUCH better ship design... except on my part. I'm not very good with that.

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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2010, 10:12:08 pm »
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The GS-verse is a mixed bag, as is so well-defined above by Daniel Handler Lemony Snicket. The big difference is that Star Wars is a professionally written mixed bag with a coherent timeline.

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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2010, 10:24:19 pm »
Professionally written: Yes.
Coherent: Ahh.......

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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2010, 10:50:25 pm »
Actually, yes. It's a sprawling, mind-bogglingly detailed timeline, but it's coherent.

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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2010, 12:38:10 am »
and then a lot of people have their own sub timelines and individual stories, that may or may not be necessarily connected to the full universe.
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2010, 08:44:15 am »
I think we have much more diversity than Star Wars.
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2010, 10:46:14 am »
and then a lot of people have their own sub timelines and individual stories, that may or may not be necessarily connected to the full universe.

Ah, the Extended Universe...

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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2010, 10:07:21 pm »
We have an awful lot of breadth to our universe, and a lot of interesting things.  The one thing where I thing we don't measure up is depth.  There is a whole lot of indepth detail to the Star Wars EU.  Granted, we havn't had the luxury of proffesional writers or artists, big franchise money, or 30 years of history.

I think one of the biggest issues with us is we have no overarching authority to say what's canon and what's not.  So we can't really nail down a lot of details, namly that damn map and timeline that has eluded us for the last 4 years.
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2010, 12:08:11 am »
We should try to mend that when/if we move back to Kosmosis, and set up stuff like that from the start!
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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2010, 06:07:35 am »
Interesting, isn't it?

To think that we have parted so much from the GS-verse's original source material, SporeTM, yet in many respects, still haven't risen from the very shortcomings which the latter clearly possessed.



While Star Wars may not seem to be as relatively varied in its palette, especially when it comes to humanoids, it does, however, appear to possess an immeasurably greater level of depth.

In the end, while GS might have what it takes to become a great sci-fi universe, it is unfortunately rather lacking in the depth and maturity department, being primarily player-driven and having no "true" overarching story which encompasses the world's somewhat long history of events.




That pretty much sums it up.

In any case, you had better been brushing up on your Klingon recently, cause next up is none other than Star Wars' chief rival...



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Re: Gaming Steve Sci-fi Universe: How Does It Measure Up?
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2010, 08:12:22 am »
Star Trek: Great writing, mostly, almost no non-humanoids compared to humanoids. And a lot on the former list are of humanoid shape, like the Gorn and Q.
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