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Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« on: July 22, 2010, 07:51:04 pm »
So, I just got through reading the first book in this epic series of graphic novels called Scott Pilgrim.



So I'm surfing the net to find out more info about this amazingly witty book, and look what I find.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgOLmjhxVVU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgOLmjhxVVU</a>

Apparently it's comming out in August.  If it is anything as funny as the first book, it will be awesome.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 09:49:28 pm »
Hmm yes. We all know how the last graphic novel turned movie went eh?

Here's a hint, it blue dick.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 10:26:09 pm »
There is also a video game coming to PS3 and then XBLA two weeks later

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sI3k8hwJI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92sI3k8hwJI</a>

Movie looks rad, hopefully the movie holds up to the awesome preview.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2010, 11:18:31 pm »
Hmm yes. We all know how the last graphic novel turned movie went eh?

Here's a hint, it blue dick.

First, I liked Watchmen.

Second, if comic books count too, technically Kick-Ass was the last one.

Third, V for Vendetta rocked out loud, so keep an open mind.
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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2010, 12:23:26 am »
I also liked the Watchmen movie although I never read the comic/graphic novel still was still a good film and i got the DVD for it as well.

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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2010, 05:38:05 am »
Yeah, I've been following this movie almost since day one. The last novel in the series actually only came out this Monday. Really good books.
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 09:58:30 am »
Hmm yes. We all know how the last graphic novel turned movie went eh?
But Watchmen was a damn good movie!
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2010, 10:06:21 am »
scott pilgrim is fantastic, its the best.

but i have a little fear for the movie, because michael cera >.>

that game looks like the tits though, art by paul robertson and it looks like a spiritual succesor to river city ransom.

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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2010, 10:44:41 am »
Yeah, the game reminds me of castle crashers.  I defininetly need to pick it up for me and my roommates.
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2010, 06:48:38 pm »
So I went to see it today. I'd recommend it. Just be prepared for at least a little bit of dullness at times.

Full review here: http://axelsplayground.squarespace.com/journal/2010/8/13/review-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world.html
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Re: Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 09:55:20 am »
I give it two thumbs up.  Very funny, really nice visuals, and great editing.  But I fit the narrow demographic it was aiming for.

I never got a chance to read the comic beforehand, but from what I could read of the comic on Amazon, the movie is really close to the book. 

I'm not one to avoid a movie because of who is in it, but I had to drag my wife to see it.  She hates Michael Cera.  Especially after watching Paper Heart.  She thought the movie was okay, but still hates Michael Cera.


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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 12:50:15 pm »
Great movie.  However, there was a lot of things I felt wouldn't make sense if you havn't read the books, and a lot of things where they deviated from the books.  Of course, this was to be expected, but it was some of the small details, side scenes and banter that they left out that gave the books a lot of their charm.

The lack of the Honest Ed's part made me sad.

Also, pretty much everything after the third ex The Vegan was significantly different from the books.  Also, whole subplots that added a lot of depth to the books were missing.

All in all, it was a lot more 2dimentional than the books, but it was still very funny and very entertaining and I definetly recomend it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 02:14:02 pm »
Saw it, loved it.  Sure, they changed a lot from the books, but I think they had to to fit the time frame, not to mention that the last volume wasn't even out when this was made.  They had to pick between focusing on the relationship and focusing on the action, and I think they made the right choice.  The comic delves that depth as deep as it can go, and is there for anyone who wants it, but where else will we get awesome over the top action sequences filled with delightful jokes and references?
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« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2010, 10:10:27 pm »
One of the most relevant movies I've seen in a long time. A complex visual metaphor for a young adult's struggle to conquer personal feelings of inadequacy and stop his self-esteem issues from standing in the way of his goals; basically a tale of nerd empowerment. It was a very easy movie to relate to; I totally identified with the the main character (largely due to my age and personal experiences). I found myself identifying people I know in the some of the characters.

The cinematography was spectacular; the emotions were driven home by the visual effects (especially the break up scene with Knives; they totally nailed the feeling).

The balance of action to plot was perfect.

I've never read the graphic novels, but I was able to follow it really well. The largely 2D nature of the exes didn't bother me, seeing as they're ultimately personifications of Ramona's baggage (like the ghosts of past, present, and future in "A Christmas Carol"), and Scott's own difficulties as he learns not to judge her for it, nor be intimidated by it.


The one thing that I noticed was that they never really explained what happened with the twins, whereas everyone else was explained to Scott by Ramona...
Didn't bother me, I just noticed it.

But definitely worth seeing in the theatres. :D

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« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2010, 07:14:23 am »

The one thing that I noticed was that they never really explained what happened with the twins, whereas everyone else was explained to Scott by Ramona...
Didn't bother me, I just noticed it.

It's in the novel.  In my opinion their part in the story was much better in the book, granted, it was pretty damn cool in the movie as well.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2010, 12:13:31 am »
Didn't read the comic, won't read the comic, think that comics can go burn in hell. Thought the movie was superb! I really enjoyed it! I've bought maybe four DVDs in my life because really, who needs them? Watch is on TV or something.

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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2010, 12:34:15 am »
Didn't read the comic, won't read the comic, think that comics can go burn in hell. Thought the movie was superb! I really enjoyed it! I've bought maybe four DVDs in my life because really, who needs them? Watch is on TV or something.

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2010, 12:51:45 am »
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2010, 02:42:27 am »
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 11:54:05 am »
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 12:11:24 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2010, 02:45:58 am »
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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2010, 12:22:25 am »
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« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2010, 06:21:09 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2010, 04:36:04 pm »
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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2010, 05:36:40 pm »
Yeah...unfortunately they did an unsatisfactory job of advertising it in a way that properly conveyed its awesomeness...The movie was waay different than I thought it would be (considering that I never heard of the comics). Which is a good thing, because it overexceeded my expectations.
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2010, 09:32:56 pm »
I loved this movie! I've never read the comics, but my friend who loves the comics insisted I watch the movie. I'm glad I did! I thought the little video-game touches were really neat effects, the storyline was great, and the characters were fairly deep.
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« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2010, 10:09:51 am »
I was trying to think of how to describe the gist of this movie to a friend who hasn't seen it, and I realized something.

In terms of characters and themes, this movie could easily be in the same genre as the film "(500) Days of Summer", except that the latter was written for a slightly older audience.
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2010, 02:21:43 am »
Yay Knives!  ;D She was the best character in the movie. Scott was dumb and a jerk. They need a movie staring Knives!

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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2010, 07:11:02 am »
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2010, 03:38:02 pm »
Scott was dumb and a jerk.
I keep hearing this from various people. Having seen the film multiple times, I'd argue that this gross generalization of the character not only doesn't do the character justice, but completely misses the point of the movie. For most of his life he's just impetuous. He's one of those individuals who's empathetic and sensitive, but after incidents of getting hurt or hurting others (through breakups, etc.) learned to distract himself from his problems rather than confront them. Which, unfortunately for Knives, is why he dated her in the first place. When he's in a relationship (prior to Ramona) he feels as though he doesn't have to face his problems. So when Natalie (aka Envy) breaks up with him, not only does he feel rejected for being dumped, but without a relationship, he starts reevaluating his decisions and getting introspective, which he's afraid of doing, because that would mean coming to terms with his prior actions and accepting responsibility. So he hooks up with Knives to distract himself from himself. Which is frankly the wrong reason to be in a relationship. Because, though he doesn't realize it (since he avoids introspection), he's using her.

His relationship with Ramona, along with his battles against her seven evil exes, serves as a complex and very well done visual metaphor, as Scott not only comes to terms with Ramona's baggage and learns to accept her as an individual despite her faults/baggage, but also comes to terms with his own faults/baggage (his poor relations with Envy, Kim, Knives, and in the books, Lisa, etc.), and mature into an adult.

One of several main plot points of the story is that Scott learns to confront his personal issues and take responsibility for his actions, culminating in the scene where he fights Gideon the second time, hence the line "I think I learned something...", and the whole scene where he apologizes to everyone and accepts responsibility for his actions.

Additionally, it should be noted that Knives is very much a star character in the film, along with Scott and Ramona. Knives' story is one of learning to move on, establish a strong sense of self-esteem and self-respect, and to reevaluate what she values in a healthy relationship.

The third plot is Ramona's, who in some ways is very similar to Scott. She originally agrees to hook up with Scott for the same reasons that Scott hooked up with Knives. She had just come out of a bad relationship, and, rather than deal with her past, she'd rather not talk about it, preferring to just pretend like it didn't happen. She keeps running away from her problems rather than coming to terms with them. Through her relationship with Scott, she's forced to revisit her past relationships, and grows skeptical that she can ever make a relationship work, citing that her past/baggage "keeps catching up with her". When Scott finally matures by the end of the film, he accepts Ramona for who she is, despite her baggage, establishing the foundations for a mature relationship.

The major theme of the film is best summed up in one of Ramona's lines: "No breakup is painless; we all have baggage."

The fact that the characters are so well developed and experience such powerful growth is one of the main factors that make this film worth far more credit than its been given.
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« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2010, 08:05:19 pm »
i watched this movie last night,.. i really liked it

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« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2011, 06:28:24 pm »
I watched this on HBO yesterday.

This is definitely in my top 3 best movies I've ever seen. Soundtrack was cool, the visuals were GREAT, story was ridiculous, silly, and awesome, the characters were well developed, the action was stupendous, and to top it off the movie was hilarious. This movie is just pure fun wrapped with fun and given a sprinkle of fun.

Loved it.
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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2011, 08:53:52 pm »
The six comicbooks were far superior. They actually flesh Scott out to the point that he is actually likable. Yeah, he's still a jerk to begin with, but that is shown more clearly to be his immaturity, and Ramona is the catalyst that causes him to step his life up a notch, and straighten himself out. The entire thing is about the subtler parts of the transition to adulthood, kinda.

I really didn't like the film much. They had so much stuff to squish into a single film, that they made it feel really awkward and attention-deficit. Whilst that is kind of the style of the comics, everything has a better flow to it. The biggest instance of this is Scott and Ramona's falling out, where in the comics it is shown to be the result of emotional fatigue and small things mounting up, in the movie he just randomly starts taking verbal jabs at her that felt flatly jerkish instead of comical. Or how because he was the one to confess he cheated on Knives, and he only said so because he knew it was about to be revealed, they suddenly forgave him enough to fight beside him?

Condensing it to this degree just made it seem like it was trying to be LOLRANDUM, and all the finer, more upbeat tones were replaced with an overall feel of everyone simply being deadpan jerks. Besides, for some reason, Scott's actor just didn't really fit it, in my opinion. He seemed way too lethargic and timid, instead of perky-yet-childish. Kim just ended up seeming like a complete ass, too. Blegh. They just butchered the actual underpinning story to be able to fit in as many of the easier hitting gags, and I just think it really didn't work.
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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2011, 11:57:09 pm »
See I didn't read the books.

So I thought it was awesome. Cera was very likable in his own nerdy, not really getting it fashion. He was someone I did end up rooting for because I liked him. I didn't consider him a jerk so much as just oblivious to the consequences of his actions, ie a child. I like the whole growing up and learning something scene.

Sure the end started to feel rushed with Ramona and Scott's relationship never really being shown to have real chemistry on screen but idk I sort of just assumed they had some off-screen relationship building. Was a quirky, non-serious movie so I didn't dissect the relationships too much and just rolled with whatever the movie was giving me as the truth. This indian guy can fly and summon demons? Ok! This guy is Vegeta? Ok! This girl can teleport? Ok! Ramona can pull a giant sledgehammer from nowhere? Ok! Scott pulls a sword from his chest? Ok! Ramona and Scott are close? Ok! Hell with everything else movie just sort of goes, 'here, this is just what is'. I liked that. It was different and it was fun and no questions needed to be asked.

And to be fair I sort of 'got' his jabs at her; he was upset after being attacked four times, so it was understandable he would be frustrated and demanding answers the way he did.

Idk the movie was awesome. Loved it and too bad you couldn't like it either i guess.
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2011, 12:25:06 pm »
The way I saw it was the movie was good in it's own right, but if you read the books first it was a bit of a let down, simply because the books set the bar so high.  Personally I think it would've worked better as an animated series.
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