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[RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« on: January 28, 2010, 03:44:21 pm »
Note: I sent a message to Razon about these guys three days ago, yet to have a response. To, posting these guys temporarily. Razonatair, if you say nay to them, I'll remove them, if they're ok, they stay. Sorry for the breach of procedure, but I've gotten tired of waiting.

The Protoik,Pt.1
The Protoik are a race of single cell creatures that have an interesting way of doing things: They fuse together to make larger creatures, even buildings. The reason I'm not doing an attribute list thing is that they are single cells, it would be rather pointless. One feature they have, though, is they are somewhat sensitive to heat. 100 degrees Fahrenheit is a danger zone for them. They are an aquatic race, and make good use of this fact, where they have developed a mashed techno-organic civilisation. Many of their creatures swim using a fluidic-membrane tail, which they undulate as a means of propulsion. They are also good with cybernetic technology, as many of their structures and some of their creatures have mechanical weapons/equipment/propulsion on them. Fusion Centers are large factory-esque facilities where Protoik are born and fused into different creatures. They have a factory portion to them, where the machines and cybernetics are produced. This is a primary structure, as it is where life for the Protoik begins. They are considered near sacred by the Protoik born inside them. When they are fused, one Protoik assumes control, and the rest essentially enter a comatose state. They are fed by creatures called Suppliers, which consume food, digest enough of it for their own use, and rather than expell the unused nutrients, fill organic syringes with this high nutrient liquid, which they inject into other creatures as sustinance. As such, most other creatures have no proper mouth, but can still vocalise through other openings near their front.
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 03:51:06 pm »
The Protoik,Pt.2
Now for their home system; Meykalis.
Name:Meykalis
Star:Meykalis, main sequence star
Planets:5; Ulis, Kais, Nua,Jaron, and Huynez. That's in order of proximity to star.
Other features: Meteor belt just outside Huynez.

Outside the water, the Protoik have made daring strides. They have developed organic spacecraft, fed much the same way as smaller creatures. They are self sustained, as suppliers will eat anything so long as it has nutrients in it. Rocks, dead creatures, trees, water. Heck, they'll eat DIRT if it has has nutrients in it.
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2010, 03:54:08 pm »
Umm....how do they have sentience if they're single cell organisms? Or am I misreading it, and they're single-cell state is a larval stage?

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2010, 03:56:15 pm »
Clairify. As they fuse together and specialise into organs and such for the creature, a brain develops, granting enough intelligence to be considered sentient. I'm having some difficulties as how to explain that kind of thing, if any veterans have a bettery way, be my guest.
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 04:01:56 pm »
Wait, so, if I'm understanding you correctly:
-Adult spawns, releasing individual cells.
-When two cells, meet, they stick together, and exchange genes.
-Once the blastula has gathered enough cells, the cells divide, specialize, and form and embryo.
-Embryo becomes adult, cycle repeats.
If so, then awesome, I really like these guys! :D
Although, I don't see a picture. Do you not have one up, or is it just my computer?

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2010, 04:04:50 pm »
No picture yet, still trying to figure out new printer-scanner....lemme try it right now....hold on a sec.
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2010, 04:13:46 pm »
I'm having some difficulties as how to explain that kind of thing, if any veterans have a bettery way, be my guest.

Amoeba can turn into slime molds big enough to take on non-microscopic animals.

If these guys happen to have gained sentience during their planet's equivalent to the very early Cambrian, it isn't much of a stretch to see them ruling the planet.

My main concern is how do they form space craft without exceeding the 100F limit? Space has extreme levels of heat, and if the ship is completely made up of the cells, it would disintegrate. :-\

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2010, 04:23:59 pm »
They use an insulated metal "shell on the outside, which protects from extreme heat.Inside that is all organic. Again, clairified.

Edit:Scanning now.... be pacient.
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2010, 04:39:44 pm »
Well, my new scanner is useless. Saves the file as an Adobe Acrobat document, not as an image. Sorry, no pictures, I'm afraid. :'(

EDIT: I'm gonna try to open it in GIMP, mebe that will work.
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2010, 04:58:56 pm »
The lack of a response was implied to be a rejection, I just didn't feel like sending anything at the time. I'm not letting you, ever, unless you actually provide something non-retarded.

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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2010, 05:04:50 pm »
Don't mean to sound intrusive, but how is this retarded?

Sure it may need a few nudges here and there, but it's overall premise isn't actually that bad, considering we have microbes here on our own planet with astounding levels of intelligence.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2010, 05:08:18 pm »
Oh, yeah. Kitkat gives living crystals, that's perfectly sane. But fusing cells, oh no, that's the most retarded thing in existance. ::)
Please explain how you came to this conclusion.
Edit: Finally, after a half-hour of fighting, I have a picture! Ignore the Sinor, that's just stupid.

I'll give details on each variety later.
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2010, 05:21:50 pm »
They're retarded on the basis that it's believed they can form things. Shapeshifters are not allowed in the AC. This is considered a shapeshifter for many reasons, though it would not be an immediate shapeshifter, it still possesses the qualities. Crystals are sane. Single cells managing to become intelligent without directly evolving into multicellular organisms, that is stupid. My word is law, you fail. Make something more logical, or just stop trying because I don't like you or your bad ideas.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2010, 05:26:39 pm »
Oooh, ouch. I can understand the bad ideas, but you don't like ME? Man, that hurts. What the hell did I do to you. I can understand you don't like my ideas, but you could have kept the fact that you don't like me to yourself. You want to be a jerk, go right on ahead, but at least have some common courtesy. UFO, I hate to do this, but I'll move this to RG. After what you just said, I don't WANT to RP in your dumb "Alpha Cluster" or what ever the heck you call it anyway!  >:(
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Re: [AC] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2010, 05:40:29 pm »
Calm down, GG.

Though, yeah, that was kinda below the belt, Raz.

Anyways, what about...

... considering we have microbes here on our own planet with astounding levels of intelligence.

Some protozoans are surprisingly smart for being just single cells and having no brain to speak of whatsoever. Even the guys who have PhDs are scratching their heads over it.

Think about this for a sec. Some amoeba species can combine to form giant slime molds. If each of those amoeba somehow evolved a primitive neuron-like organelle, it would be like a multicellular organism, only that the amoeba can go solo again whenever they wish, making them still count as unicellular organisms.

If a large enough slime mold forms, they could possibly reach sentience, and consider not to split up for the time being. This slime mold can then coerce other slime molds to combine, creating new intelligent slime molds. By then, they could probably form a pack or something.

This could go on until they've pretty much established their species as the dominant on the planet.

If that happened during the very early Cambrian, I wouldn't be surprised if Earth was populated by slime people.

Honestly, my only gripe about them is their heat sensitivity and ability to stay sentient even in their unicellular mode, but that's it.

Out of curiosity, if I can make a plausible scenario with these guys, will you allow them in the AC?

Let's remove the other factors for now, including shape-shifting and those concerning GG, and just consider the plausibility of the Protoik in itself.

Also...

Shapeshifters are not allowed in the AC.

An Sama is an, albeit artificial, shape-shifter. Ahm is also a shape-shifter.

Single cells managing to become intelligent without directly evolving into multicellular organisms, that is stupid.

We haven't seen an alien race in real life yet, so saying that is kinda bias towards Terra. And I remember having that kind of bias is pretty backwards thinking.

Back when only few exoplanets were known, they had long-standing theories on how planets formed. When they finally discovered pulsar planets, those theories disintegrated and they looked pretty stupid.

Make something more logical, or just stop trying because I don't like you or your bad ideas.

I can bare that you hate his ideas, but again, what does creature approval have to do with the person doing it? If you somehow have a grudge against Professor Michio Kaku, would you not allow his creature into the AC?
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2010, 07:22:28 pm »
Oh, yeah. Kitkat gives living crystals, that's perfectly sane.
Technically, they're all just glorified computers. [/nitpick]
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2010, 10:49:37 pm »
After what you just said, I don't WANT to RP in your dumb "Alpha Cluster" or what ever the heck you call it anyway!  >:(
Ahhh, sour grapes. Too bad!

These seem surprisingly similar to the Blells, except the Blells are just blobs of stem cells while these are hive mind bacteria, from what I've gathered.

Sure, they can RP too. Just try and update all of your creations instead of abandoning older ones for newer ones, 'mkay?
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2010, 03:15:42 pm »
After what you just said, I don't WANT to RP in your dumb "Alpha Cluster" or what ever the heck you call it anyway!  >:(
Ahhh, sour grapes. Too bad!

These seem surprisingly similar to the Blells, except the Blells are just blobs of stem cells while these are hive mind bacteria, from what I've gathered.

Sure, they can RP too. Just try and update all of your creations instead of abandoning older ones for newer ones, 'mkay?

Fine. No objections.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2010, 05:06:25 pm »
ORGANISMS:
Enforcer
Speed:Moderate-High (18 kts)
Eyes:8
Armour: Thick Skin
Weapon:Short Range Focused Electric Discharger
Size: Medium, around size of Hammerhead Shark
Bio: Peace keepers and light combatants, Enforcers are fast, agile creatures that are able to take moderate punishment. Their attack is a focused electric discharge, which is powerful, but as stated, limited in range, as the charge begins to loose focus and disipate into the water after about 50 ft.

Supplier
Speed:Slow (about 8 kts)
Eyes:2
Armour: Skin
Weapon:N/A
Bio: Suppliers are creatures that eat virtually anything. They consume food, then process it. With the leftover nutrients, rather than expelling them, are made into a nutrient-rich "soup", which is then put into syringe-like injectors. Then, the Supplier injects these nutrients into the other creatures, or fills a special node with this liquid to automate the process. Automated feeders are only located in larger, more powerful colonies.

Consumer
Speed: Very Slow (about 4.5 kts)
Eyes:2
Armour:Skin
Weapons: N/A
Bio: Consumers are simply land versions of suppliers. But the one difference is that rather than injecting the soup into other creatures, they "sick" it back up, similar to how bees "sick" up digested pollen as honey. The Suppliers eat the sicked up soloution and add it to their own reserve. Like the Supplier, the Consumer feeds itself, rather than being injected with the nutrients it needs.

There's a few for now. I'll do some more later, or possibly tomorrow, we'll see.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2010, 04:59:30 pm »
((Inspired to do this, so don't whine!))
Weapons used by Consumers
The Consumers have no weapons on their own, but their are several other creatures that are grown weapons. Some of them are simple, others are pretty out there.

1.Electroroach
The Electroroach is a large insect-like creature about the size of a Guinney Pig. It has 8 claw-like legs that will attach to any extremity (arm/leg/ect) and will bond with that person, leaving a small space. It will reattach to that same spot every time. It links itself to the nervous system of the host, and forms a symbiotic relationship with it. They are equipped with a smaller version of the Electric Discharger mounted on Enforcer. They are actually very playful animals, and even when they bind with someone, they will still attempt to play with other people, as long as they are not deemed as a threat. They are also very intelligent, and use this to their advantage, even learning basic speech skills. Some have even been inteligent enough to speak fluently.

2.Acid Wyrm
The Acid Wyrm is an animal similar to the Electroroach that fires a small organic torpedo with an acid charge. It is longer, like a rifle, and does not bond with the user, rather has a spot where when agitated, will cause it to launch. It is generally held by a foot, and is supported by the mouth, as it can eat like a Supplier or Consumer. It uses the food it takes in to form the torpedos and acid.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2010, 04:44:13 pm »
I like these guys! And just saying ginney pig is guinea pig.
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2010, 10:01:42 pm »
Spacecraft
The Protoik are fresh into space, and their military is tiny. They have about 13 ships, and that's it. They are growing more, but it takes awhile, and they are looking for a prospective alliance to help protect them. Their ships are generally armed with SSSES..uh...SS...um...damnitall, what are they called..... . . THE SUBSPACE GUN THINGYS THE OREALYANIS USE!
Yeah, anyway....>.> <.<

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2010, 10:50:15 pm »
String Energy Amplification Through Concentrated Emission of SubSpace Vibration cannons, or SEACESSV cannons for short. :)

How do they create the necessary vibrations, though? Do the Protoik possess a similar ability like those of the aliens from the Macross Series? :)

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2010, 12:53:03 pm »
Wait, string theory? You've gotta be kidding me. If you put a bunch of string theorists in a room together, you'll be hearing the "what ifs" flowing all day, but no evidence. Still, this galaxy does operate under many hypothetical principles (such as wormholes), but just don't go too overboard.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2010, 12:59:44 pm »
Wait, string theory? You've gotta be kidding me. If you put a bunch of string theorists in a room together, you'll be hearing the "what ifs" flowing all day, but no evidence. Still, this galaxy does operate under many hypothetical principles (such as wormholes), but just don't go too overboard.
I know. Still, I wanted a different weapon systems, and apart from the Orealyanis, I have yet to find someone else who uses SEATCESSV cannons.

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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2010, 09:07:57 pm »
Wait, string theory? You've gotta be kidding me. If you put a bunch of string theorists in a room together, you'll be hearing the "what ifs" flowing all day, but no evidence.

Who cares?  :P

Besides, lots of theories that the scientific community dismissed back then are now part of the mainstream.

What is considered as true changes with the times, and as newer and newer technologies are developed, things that we thought of as ridiculous and presumptuous back are now appearing to actually be real.

You seem to have a problem about string theory, from what I can gather. Remember that for all we know, our universe-faring descendants might look at our current volume of knowledge like how present society looks at the dark ages.
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Re: [RG] The Protoik (explanation inside)
« Reply #26 on: March 13, 2010, 09:46:41 pm »
good to see another single cell creature
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