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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 11:58:38 am »
You are allowed to make backups of games, cds even movies for personal use. So no its not illegal. Placing the games on a memory card is a backup.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2009, 12:15:39 pm »
You totally are.

Lol, that has got to be the lamest **** movie I have ever seen.

If I buy a game, and only I use it and lets say I am a collector and I want to preserve the original I can bloody copy it so I can use the copy and not the original.

What the hell is the differance since I am only using one disc at a time?

On steam I can download my game to any of the 3 computers in the house but I can only play on one computer at a time which is exactly my point above.
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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2009, 07:52:52 pm »
The part of the emulation that is illegal is the BIOS files- the firmware that runs the console.  It is entirely legal to make a backup copy, but as Keno said it simply voids the warranty.  Sony won't be responsible or offer any troubleshooting/support services on the backups OR original, that's the punishment for making a backup.  However, the BIOS is illegal to copy or distribute without permission and is most definitely against the law.

In the case of the PSP switch, it is legal due to the the fact that Sony provides you with the BIOS on the PSP.  All you need is the game property itself to make the switch.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2009, 12:54:16 pm »
If I buy a game, and only I use it and lets say I am a collector and I want to preserve the original I can bloody copy it so I can use the copy and not the original.

Given what dndfreak said last, the quoted here is still illegal. It doesn't matter what you intend. The morality of the issue isn't even the concern. The fact is it's illegal.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 12:58:58 pm »
Umm what?  I said that it is legal.  You just can't get tech support if anything goes wrong with it.  What's illegal is copying the console's OS.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 02:01:39 pm »
If it legal or not to make backup copies of digital medium i all dependent on your local copyright law and/or EULA. In some nations it is legal to make backup copies. In others not. In some countries there even a tax to compensate for legal backup copies.

Just read the law. If that is not clear enough then look at any case which might involve the situation. If that is not clear then i guess you can only ask a legal expert for advice. Lawyers sadly enough hardly do not normally do this service for free.
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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 07:54:03 pm »
If it legal or not to make backup copies of digital medium i all dependent on your local copyright law and/or EULA. In some nations it is legal to make backup copies. In others not. In some countries there even a tax to compensate for legal backup copies.

Just read the law. If that is not clear enough then look at any case which might involve the situation. If that is not clear then i guess you can only ask a legal expert for advice. Lawyers sadly enough hardly do not normally do this service for free.

It is illegal in the United States.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 08:26:44 pm »
The US is the one place that it's legal to backup copyrighted games and files.

At least, as long as it's for personal use.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2009, 02:20:03 am »
It is most definately legal in the US.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2009, 09:53:59 am »
Continue on with your myths. If you say it enough times, it must be true, right?

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2009, 10:12:30 am »
Well i can not state if it is legal or not. I have heard form a Legal expert that is Illegal in Sweden. But is just programs and such that can not be copied to backup disk. Doing the same thing with a analog media is acceptable. I do not know how it is with borderline media like CDs and DVDs where the data is digital but is not a program in general. I think is a bit of a mess. (And in the olden days it was a golden rule to always backup your original and run the backup and save the original.)
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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2009, 11:31:28 am »
You are allowed to make backups of games, cds even movies for personal use. So no its not illegal. Placing the games on a memory card is a backup.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2009, 10:14:02 pm »
Continue on with your myths. If you say it enough times, it must be true, right?

Met, I'm only going to say this once:  You're an idiot.

If you don't believe us when we say that making a backup is legal, then take a look at an EULA.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2009, 11:47:43 pm »
If you don't believe us when we say that making a backup is legal, then take a look at an EULA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROM_image#Legal_status

There. Now your turn to dispute the evidence. Not insult others.

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Re: I won a PSP 3000 black
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2009, 12:05:16 am »
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Exactly, that's for game cartridges to to the rights owned on their unique formatting.  Anything on a disk is fair game.