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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #1995 on: February 21, 2010, 06:15:08 pm »
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #1996 on: February 21, 2010, 06:33:47 pm »
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #1997 on: February 21, 2010, 07:19:24 pm »
You guys see the vote he's having up on his dev page?
Hell, I'll quote the whole thing. It's amazing.

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I have a potentially game breaking idea.. Do? Not do?

This will delay the game by AT LEAST two months. It’s a major rewrite. But I can do it.

Infinitely large maps.

When you start the game, only the area nearest to the player is generated. When you move closer to the edge of this, more map is generated, and the areas you move away from gets saved to disc. Only areas near the player gets updated, so trees won’t grow far away from you, and farms will stop working.

The world will probably get generated in blocks of 64*64*64 tiles, and it’d be all seamless. You could walk for miles, build a base, then walk back and build another base.

This would be both in singleplayer and multi player.

Advantages:
You will never run out of space.
You will never run out of resources.
Travel between several planes of existance, so “hell” could be a real plane you can visit. And the moon too, possibly!
There could be NPC villages and monster towns.
Truly epic sized multiplayer servers, lasting for a long time.


Disadvantages:
Saved games would grow larger and larger over time. Hard drives are pretty big, so it’s probably not going to be a problem.
The fog would have to get shorter, probably maxed out at around the second longest view distance now.
Multiplayer servers would require a lot of ram unless it constraints players to a certain area. (at least 32 mb per player, probably more, if they’re far away from each other)
No online saving! To share a level you have to manually give it to your friend.
Some slight lag while the game generates or loads the next zone.

I voted yes with gusto. Go for it. We should probably be able to find out early on whether or not this is going to even work; any kinks that come along that aren't covered here might also be worked out.

What do you guys think? This would certainly be something worth paying 30 bucks for, in my opinion.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #1998 on: February 21, 2010, 07:23:20 pm »
YES YES YES! We could explore and exploit an entire continent! To scale!!!
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #1999 on: February 21, 2010, 07:25:15 pm »
Hm. Things like these make me wish I had money I could use online. :P
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2000 on: February 21, 2010, 08:08:58 pm »
I think it's far too dark underwater. Exploring sunken caves is impossible.

Oh yes, infinite maps are also cool. The only drawback I care about is decreased fog distance. I dislike fog.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2001 on: February 21, 2010, 08:11:08 pm »
Man, the Minecraft forums are abuzz over this idea.
Just know that if he does go through with this everything will grind to a halt. He says as much.
I imagine it'd be set up in cells like in Morrowind or Oblivion.


Here's a sweet post I snagged off the forum.
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I think all the naysayers here haven't been fully hit by the implications of infinite space. I can't even begin to fully grasp how much could be done with a system like this. Imagine if hell were literally under you. You just dug thousands of layers TOO FAR and broke through to this underground sea of lava dotted with islands of pain. Imagine a giant superhighway of cobblestone, spanning miles of map and connecting major settlements. Imagine the islands, out in the middle of the oceans. With pirate fortresses and hidden treasure.

There would be NO LIMIT other than your hard drive. You could just go. You could just pick a direction and go. And nothing would stop you. How can this not be appealing? I am once again fantastically grateful for the incredible value I'm going to get out of this game.

I'm also seeing an astounding lack of faith in Notch's development skills. Minecraft shattered my perceptions of a great game before we even had survival mode. Who's to say it can't shatter them again?

Until Notch says it can't be done, I'll believe wholeheartedly that it can.


Yeah, Kishmond. Imagine how deep oceans would be with this thing available. I don't doubt diving gear would be craftable in that case.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2002 on: February 21, 2010, 08:33:06 pm »
Vehicles would be handy. Can you imagine traveling across a gigantic main continent on a train or by horse and carriage? Or a mine extending to the very depths of hell?

The possibilities, literally, are endless.

If Minecraft goes retail, that should soooo be the catchphrase.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2003 on: February 21, 2010, 08:45:58 pm »
You make a base... then go off to a distant place.. and then cant find your way back.

I don't like it =/
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2004 on: February 21, 2010, 08:58:05 pm »
^

What he said. Hell, I generate SMALL maps because I like the close, homey feel of My Island, My base, My work. Turning the small plot of land given to me into My home. I dunno, I voted do whatever because infinite is too much, but others want it and I don't want to say no for my own self interest, but, it'd get confusing and as Kidsoldier said, how would you not get lost? Drop a torch every 5 blocks?
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2005 on: February 21, 2010, 09:00:40 pm »
Create a path with a distinct shape.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2006 on: February 21, 2010, 09:03:13 pm »
Yeah, I love that. Move 1000 blocks, but the whole way dropping one to find my way back...
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2007 on: February 21, 2010, 09:04:15 pm »
You'd have a reason to make road networks and stuff. Manmade and natural landmarks.
Don't forget about those signs you're supposed to be able to put down. Road signs!

I don't doubt that a compass item would become necessary for this.

I'm interested in seeing how this thing turns out in any case, if he goes through with it.
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2008 on: February 21, 2010, 09:09:34 pm »
How do you place a sign exactly?
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Re: Minecraft
« Reply #2009 on: February 21, 2010, 09:14:55 pm »
Not in the game yet.

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