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Angels and Demons
« on: May 17, 2009, 12:46:44 am »
Anyone seen this?



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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2009, 01:34:41 am »
I've read the book.

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2009, 03:19:09 am »
That's not what I asked.

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2009, 05:00:01 am »
Anyone?

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2009, 08:03:29 am »
Apparently not :P
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2009, 01:11:59 pm »
My brother and his girlfriend will be seeing it tonight, I will tell you what they said about when I can.
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2009, 04:49:20 pm »
I want to see it...

I know a bunch of Catholics boycotting it. Meh, it's their problem that they can't recognize fiction as such.

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2009, 09:23:05 pm »
I just saw it tonight, I thought it was pretty dumb.

For full disclosure, I'm not a Catholic, though I am Christian.  But the movie didn't really bash on Christianity and not really that much on the Catholic Church, either.  Mostly just fictional clergy and the whole bureaucracy thing the Catholic Church has going.

I told my friends afterwards that I made the mistake of not suspending disbelief.  There were just too many goofy things going on.  So Tom Hanks is rushing all over Rome to find the hidden clues and kidnapped Cardinals, yet still has time to slow down and spout off random facts about church history.  The worst case of this is a scene in the Vatican archives.  Then, most of the treatment of CERN, the Large Hadron Collider, and the antimatter is just ridiculous.  And the scientist from CERN who accompanies Hanks has extensive knowledge of the effects of a lethal dose of some random drug, which is never explained. 

The movie just had a lot of plot holes and was overly pretentious.  But I will say that it was very well filmed, and that the antimatter explosion looked really cool.
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2009, 10:54:25 pm »
Anti-Matter explosion?

Where the hell did they get anti-matter? I mean, it might not even be real.
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2009, 07:15:24 am »
Anti-Matter explosion?

Where the hell did they get anti-matter? I mean, it might not even be real.

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Dude, we've been observing antiparticles since the 1930s, and they were predicted before that. The LHC, like every other particle accelerator, produces antiparticles with every collision.

Although of course its impossible to synthesise enough of it to make a bomb out of.
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2009, 05:40:23 am »
I saw it and liked it...

I mean, it didn't stick entirely the the book, and bits were stupid.

But if you just take it as a film, then it is definitely worth watching.

And it cuts out the worst part of the book.

(ie. jumping out of the helicopter with a piece of cloth and fortunately landing in a river.)
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2009, 06:07:26 am »
Anti-Matter explosion?

Where the hell did they get anti-matter? I mean, it might not even be real.

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Dude, we've been observing antiparticles since the 1930s, and they were predicted before that. The LHC, like every other particle accelerator, produces antiparticles with every collision.

Although of course its impossible to synthesise enough of it to make a bomb out of.

Yeah, seriously. Positrons? As in PET scans. Those are antimatter. Anyway, found this online.


"The inefficiency of antimatter production is enormous: you get only a tenth of a billion (10-10) of the invested energy back. If we could assemble all the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes."
http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/Spotlight/SpotlightAandD-en.html

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2009, 08:55:43 am »
It was a decent movie, although Tom Hanks and that lady just happen to get instant inspiration without any thinking. And I think that her bio-blablabla degree is her excuse for knowing that overdose thingy.

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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2009, 10:22:10 am »
Anti-Matter explosion?

Where the hell did they get anti-matter? I mean, it might not even be real.

Yeh it is real. For example, Beta decay, which is very frequently occuring, produces either an electron and an anti neutrino (antimatter) or a positron (antimatter) and a neutrino.

The thing that annoyed me, was when she says,

"Antimatter is highly combustible," because that is getting it wrong with no excuse. Antimatter doesn't combust, it doesn't burn, it annihilates.

I can handle wrong stuff if it necessary for the plot or because it's AWESOME (ie. the awesome explosion which for some reason happened to open some sorta black hole or something..I dunno) ... but saying that did annoy me a little...
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Re: Angels and Demons
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2009, 09:20:35 pm »
I saw this one, kept making fun of the writing afterwards.  I mean, Dan Brown was a genius but half of the lines in this movie went as follows:

It's here!

It's not here!

That's impossible!  It's got to be here!

Maybe it's back there!

Oh wait, I just remembered an obscure reference to a religion that died out almost a millenia ago!

What does that mean?

Look, it's right here!

It is here!

I knew it was here!

So... what now?

I knew it was here!

Uh... Tom?  You there?

I knew it was here!


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