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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2008, 10:35:36 am »
Just saw the 4th episode and I'm ready to pass judgement.


BEST SEASON EVAR!!

Yeah, last night's episode did it for me.  I almost feel like I did with the 1st season.

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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2008, 02:56:15 pm »
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I'm thinking Mohinder is about to go into cocoon stage.



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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2008, 03:49:09 pm »
I will say that I did like Sylar as a "good guy" I did buy him as the dad of that kid.  Anybody catch the kids name?  Noah?  Wonder what that means... And who's the mom, unless he stole that ability too!   ;D

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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2008, 04:57:50 pm »
That was awesome


I nearly kicked myself for not seeing Adams comeback.


Speculation: With him being "the key to power making formula", I now fully support the "Adam was the first person with powers theory even more.
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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2008, 08:39:21 pm »
I will say that I did like Sylar as a "good guy" I did buy him as the dad of that kid.  Anybody catch the kids name?  Noah?  Wonder what that means... And who's the mom, unless he stole that ability too!   ;D
Yeah I thought about that and I came to an odd conclusion. The kid is actually Noah Bennett. I know that sounds bizarre but look at the facts. Sylar did not appear to have any sort of female partner. The child's name is Noah. The child has the same hair color and other features as Noah Bennett. Sylar and his "son" live in the Bennett's old house. Claire says that Sylar stole everything from her. Sylar's kid=Noah Bennett somehow de-aged. An interesting power.

As for Adam, I also agree that he is the first person with powers, and perhaps the only with naturally manifested powers. Future episodes will verify or brake this theory, but I'm guessing that everyone else has manufactured powers from the formula made using Adam's DNA.


And did anyone else think that Hiro and Ando's escape attempt sounded like some kind of gay porno? I mean think about it.

*Lots of grunting noises* "Ando, you must push harder" "I'm pushing as hard as I can!" *More grunting noises*

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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2008, 10:02:23 pm »
All I have to say is that this was a really freakin' good episode.

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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2008, 06:54:25 am »
This isn't a spoiler, just an observation: Has anybody noticed that there are a lot of religious names scattered throughout this series?  Adam, Peter, Nathan, Noah, Matt(hew), Isaac (from the first season), Claire (isn't Claire a Catholic saint's name?), Gabreal (sp).  I am not sure about the foreign people's name or if they fit into a foreign religion or not.  Anybody think this is a coincidence?

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« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2008, 07:11:30 am »
I's just a coincidence. Religious names are extremely common.

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« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2008, 07:36:29 am »
I's just a coincidence. Religious names are extremely common.

I am not convinced it is a coincidence.  I mean if Tim Kring comes out and says it then I will be convinced, but until this I am trying to figure out if there is supposed to be some sort of symbolism with the name choices.

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« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2008, 08:38:05 am »
Think about it though. Ando, Hiro, Molly, Daphne, West, Mohinder, Elle, Niki, Tracy, and Angela are all not religious names. There are a lot of characters with religious names on the show merely because they are extremely common names. Half the people I know have names taken out of the bible.

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« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2008, 09:39:14 am »
Although... we were speculating that Adam was the first "Hero". Reference to Adam and Eve?

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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2008, 09:42:45 am »
And Noah was trying to collect all the "Heroes"
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« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2008, 12:16:05 pm »
First, do you have any data proving it is a coincidence?  If you do I will give up this theory.

Second, Angela is the name of a saint.  It is also interesting that she was (as legend has it) satisfied by a vision, which happens to be her power.

Another few I forgot to mention was Linderman's first name was Daniel.  Again another common name, but none the less another religious name.  Ted, another common name, was the name of the guy in the first season that had the radioactive powers, is the name of four saints.

I am not saying all have them.  I am saying some do.  If it were other more common Biblical names (Jacob, Jesse, David, Joel, Mark, Luke, Thomas, Mary, Paul, Samuel) I may not think of it as anything.  I guess the names that stuck out to me were Gaberial, Micah, Isaac.  I mean how many people do you really know with those names?  And Noah?  I know one Micah and one Gaberial. Peter, Claire and Nathan I can buy as being common.  And I had that thought way before HRG gave his name I thought it was funny how many religious names were in the show.  As soon as he gave his name I thought I could have almost guessed it. 

I am curious why these names were chosen, could it have something to do with a way the show is going?  I was curious about the foreign names if they had any significance to any religion.

And like was said above: It does seem funny that Adam is the first hero named, so far, corresponding with the first Biblical man.  Is there an Eve?  I am not sure.  This is what makes this show so good.  We can have theories because we don't know where the show is going next.

I mean I don't think that HRG is making an Ark for the heroes to get in, but I had a friend who was hardcore into comics and he told me it was not unusual to have a character named after a religious figure with references to fact that the name wasn't just arbitrarily named that.  I am not into comics so I can not give examples.  He had that "Comic Book Guy" from the Simpsons attitude so I felt like what he was saying was accurate.  If this is untrue, then somebody let me know.
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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2008, 12:39:39 pm »
Aside from Adam, I'm not seeing a lot of correlation between names and actions, which makes me think it's a coincidence.  Get back to me if Peter declares himself the leader of everyone with powers after another main character dies.

As for Adam, I also agree that he is the first person with powers, and perhaps the only with naturally manifested powers. Future episodes will verify or brake this theory, but I'm guessing that everyone else has manufactured powers from the formula made using Adam's DNA.

Well, I can see Adam being the first, but the only one who has powers naturally?  Considering how many different powers we've seen, if only briefly, I doubt the company went around injecting everyone at birth.  Especially since the company has to go out and find these people.  If the powers were artificial you'd think they would just be on a list.  Hm, with all this talk of Adam being the first hero, and with him starting off as a drunkard in japan, I'm starting to think that we're coming up on a "Hiro, I am your ancestor" deal.

And I wonder why Mohinder can't find a power suppressor.  Isn't that exactly what the virus Sylar had did?  He definitely didn't seem like he was dying.  And while we're on Sylar...  If he's only a villain because his power gives him The Hunger, why did he still spend the entire last season finding a way to regain his power with the specific intent of killing more people for their powers?  His power wasn't influencing him then you have to come to the conclusion that he's just not a good person.

Now, I wonder what power Barbara has...
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Re: Heroes: Villains (Season 3) *Major Spoilers (written in white)*
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2008, 01:13:50 pm »
Didn't future Peter mention that not everyone is born with powers, some are made?


Also, just pretend that anything in season 2 that contradicts season 3 never happened.
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