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Genders?
« on: July 05, 2008, 12:07:12 am »
Do you know wether there will be genders in spore. I mean for creatures.


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Re: Genders?
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 12:08:16 am »
No. They're all of hermaphroditic. I forget where they said it, but the developers have confirmed that.


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Re: Genders?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 12:09:40 am »
I'm sure they'll propably include genders in some future expansion pack or something.
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Re: Genders?
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 12:10:11 am »
Do you know wether there will be genders in spore. I mean for creatures.

I believe they have said no genders. The only reference to gender is mating. But that could be done a number of ways; such as with male and female, or hermaphroditicly, etc. Nothing is specified other than you need to call for a mate to reproduce and all species look the same. Thus no sexual dimorphism.

No. They're all of hermaphroditic. I forget where they said it, but the developers have confirmed that.



They could be male and female but there would be no physical differences shown. Or even asexually with a gestation gender. Meaning one species makes a replica of itself by self fertilization and then gives the fertilized egg to one with no gender who just grows the egg until it can lay it but gives no DNA of its own to the offspring..
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Re: Genders?
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2008, 12:14:58 am »
Ok..well, no secondary sexual traits, and internal genitalia then.

Either way, no visible differences.

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Re: Genders?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 12:17:32 am »
Ok..well, no secondary sexual traits, and internal genitalia then.

Either way, no visible differences.

Well if they did have visible genitalia (or were genitalia creatures) would appear as the same. :P Such as in bird's cloaca.

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Re: Genders?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 01:29:20 am »
I doubt they will be in an expansion.
As I understand it they haven't left them out because of technical difficulties, but in order to prevent problems with situations/creatures that some might want to have censored.

I respect their choice, but I think it's a loss since male/female interactions, rituals and differences is such a big part of existance and society for so many species on earth.

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Re: Genders?
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 06:11:21 am »
Think how frustrating it could be if you couldn't find a member of your species of the correct gender :P Or if you killed off all of one gender...

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 09:04:46 am »
For the sake of simplicity, no there arent.

Think of it this way : At a glance, how often can you tell the difference between a male and female pet?
We cant tell the difference without very deliberate scrutiny in real life, and the same is assumed to apply in Spore. We cant tell which are male and female, but our creatures can. When finding a mate, the one you stumble on is always assumed to be the appropriate gender.

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Re: Genders?
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 09:22:50 am »
Given how many problems creating seperate genders for our creatures would make, both from a procedural programming point of view, and a "keeping a T for teen rating" point of view, I can't say I blame EA/Maxis one bit for making creatures gender neutral in appearance. Probibly the same reason they made all creatures lay eggs, even ones meant to look/be mammalian.
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Re: Genders?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 09:49:55 am »
I would describe Spore as "Agnostic" on the issue of gender.  They don't provide any information on a creature's gender (except it just takes 2 to mate).  They don't make the genders look different (which was a reasonably choice as others have pointed out).

The player is free to imagine that his creatures have whatever sort of gender that the player wishes.  Which goes along with the game philosophy— it's not about imposing a story much beyond what is necessary as part of the game rules

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2008, 10:30:12 am »
The gender question is left as an open question.  In other words, the game never assigns a gender making it up to the user to create the story of how that works.

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2008, 10:37:06 am »
It's been confirmed that there's no genders.

Otherwise it would just get too confusing - think of how hard it is to tell apart something common, like male and female cats - it's be 1000x harder with mutant space octo-lizards like you can make in spore >_>

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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2008, 10:53:51 am »
The gender question is left as an open question.  In other words, the game never assigns a gender making it up to the user to create the story of how that works.

Hmmm... I like your approach at the question.
It has the same gist as the silent protagonist, good example is Link.
He never speaks clearly audible words, but he has keen facial expressions and the actions you do in the world affect it accordingly. Since he can't speak you can guess what he's thinking therefore creating a story.

But that's just my take on it, that is a very good way of making the world your own though.
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Re: Genders?
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 05:35:02 am »
I can agree with the openness of the gender neutral storytelling mechanic, but it'd still be nice if they'd have had an option to have sexual dimorphism. Perhaps it'd overcomplicate things or something, I don't know. If it's even vaguely to do with political correctness or whatever, though, then the world is even more mad than i thought.  :P

Think how frustrating it could be if you couldn't find a member of your species of the correct gender :P Or if you killed off all of one gender...

That reminded me of the Dodo scene from Ice Age where one turns to the other and says, "There goes our last female...."  :D

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