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Offline Sturek

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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #30 on: May 01, 2005, 10:48:35 am »
I love Pratchett and the Discworld....Just like lemurbouy said, it doesn't feel like a series....
In your initial post you said that all of his books are the same. They are not, they are VERY different.
Pratchett uses famous literature as inspiration and if you know those stories (like Shakespeare stuff for example) it is even funnier.
In some books he discusses philosophy (If there is a big elephant falling out of the sky, but no one sees or hears it falling, has it really happened ?) in a really funny way.
Another topic I love is "new technology" like the printing press.
He shows the reader a different aspect of those inventions:
"If you use the same letters to print a baking book (? Babelfish translation) and the book of holy whisdom, what happens to the holy words ? For that matter, what does it do to the pie ?"
All of his books have different topics and there are many different characters, some appear again in other books, some don't appear again......

I think those books are really funny and....well....great entertainment.
If you don't like'em, that's allright, but you have not even read one book. Nevertheless you say they're all the same....come o
Most people I know actually like his books (even my German teacher and he only likes "real" literature ;) ) and they are no kids anymore ;)

Anyway, no offense, just my 2 cents ;)

About those "Never-Ending-Stories":
I really hate that too, especially Wheel of time. I have never read a book of that series, but always wanted to (well at least since I heard about it in a review of a PC-Game about the Wheel of Time), but as there are soooo many of them.
I really don't know where to start (yes number one, I know ;) ). I mean, you stand in front of this shelve at the book store and
there are at least 12 different copys.They all look different, I don't know which one to buy, so I just end up buying some new "stand-alone" SF novel ;)

Edit: I tried to improve this version, sorry about my English (I was in a hurry).
If there still are some big mistakes, please PM me so I can fix it ;)
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« Last Edit: May 02, 2005, 06:48:49 am by Sturek »
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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #31 on: May 01, 2005, 05:09:18 pm »
I love Pratchet and the Discworld....
Just like lemurbouy said, it doesn't feel like a series....
In your initial post you said that all of his books were the same.
They are not, they are VERY different.
Pratchet uses a lot of famous literature as inspiration and
if you know those stories (like Shakespeare stuff for example)
it is even funnier.
In other books he discusses different ideas of philosophy (If there is a big elephant falling
from the sky, but no one sees or hears it, has it really happened ?) but in
a really funny and easy to understand way.
Another topic I love is "new technology" like the printing press.
He shows the reader a different aspect of those inventions:
"If you use the same letters to print a book about baking and the book of holy whisdom,
what would happen to the holy words ? For that matter, what would it do to the pie ?"
All of his books have different topics and there are many different characters, some appear
again in other books, some not......

I think those books are really funny and....well....great entertainment.
If you don't like'em, that's allright, but to say they're all the same and you have not
even read one complete book.....come on......
Most people I know actually like his books (even my German teacher and he only
likes "real literature" ;) ) and they are no kids anymore ;)
Anyway, no offense, just my 2 cents ;)

About those "Never-Ending-Stories":
I really hate that too, especially Wheel of time, I have never read a book of that series,
but always wanted to (well at least since I heard about it in a review of a PC-Game
that was about the Wheel of Time), but as there are soooo many of them
I really don't know where to start (yes number one, I know ;) ).
I mean, you stand in front of this shelve at the book shop and
there are like at least 12 copys of some Wheel of Time books,
they all look different and I just end up buying some new
"stand-alone" SF novel ;)


This is just garbage.  Write a coherent English sentence and i might take you seriously.

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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #32 on: May 01, 2005, 09:47:51 pm »
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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2005, 11:52:34 am »
Terry Goodkind is probably the best fantasy-setting author I know of who is still writing books. The Sword of Truth series is pure gold. If you have A LOT of time on your hands or are an avid reader I highly suggest these books. Beware though they tend to be very graphic at points. Also they have nothing, absolutely nothing in common with Tolkien and his works. No elves, no dwarfs, no silly goblins and orcs. It's pure gold, baby!

Sounds like a similar series I'm reading, the Rhapsody series by Elizabeth Haydon. Check it out sometime if your interested in stories with lots of lore and history. At times some characters seem pretty boyish, but there is some balance to it.

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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2005, 08:49:20 pm »
I really do like The Discworld series (except the "For Kids" ones, those just don't feel like Pratchett). None of them seem 'the same' to me. With the exception of perhaps Soul Music and Moving Pictures, those were strikingly similar. I don't see where you are going with Terry Pratchett books, he isn't 'living off his hit' or writing the same thing over again. And he is definitely not milking off Tolkien. That's like saying Tolkien is milking off general mythology, it's the Fantasy genre, it's popular. His writing is not all silly 'I smelled like green this morning' humor. He is philosophical, and gives you something to think about as you read. For example, in Thief of Time, he writes that there must be a smallest possible unit of time, a Universal Tick, in which the smallest thing possible to happen will happen, like frames per second an a computer game. Otherwise there would be no definite time for the present to become the future or the past. That makes perfect sense.

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Re: I hate authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2005, 05:25:11 am »
The last post here was in May, it's now August ;) - i've pretty much gotten over my Pratchett rant now, please don't coax me into another argument - i'm in a good mood today.


On a side note - regarding the person i told to write a "coherent English sentence" to, i sent a PM apologizing for my little outburst, and no harm done.  I chose to keep the post on here regardless - i don't shy away from mistakes and bad things that i've said and done.  So no i'm not going to lambast you or call you an "arsehole", Kishmond (which i never did to anyone else anyway).  You brought the thread up again with the intention of winding me up - why else would you reply and then effectively say, "Don't bother to challenge my argument."?

Anyway, i'm bored with this thread.  I've made my views about Pratchett and his... works known.

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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #36 on: May 01, 2006, 10:17:16 pm »
I have to disagree with your views on Terry Pratchett.  Obviously people enjoy his works.  You either like British humor or you don't.  It's that simple.  His books are light and fun and that is usually enough for people.  His books can be read in any order so it really doesn't have to be considered a complete series.

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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2006, 06:25:55 am »
Sorry to be posting in this thread, as it's seemingly dead based on the OP's perspective, but I would like to ask since when a novel couldn't be just light and fun? I'm of the opinion that if every author attempted to write 'literature' -- which is a word I've grown to associate with pretentious babblings that no one really gives a damn about anyway -- then they would never produce any, and there would be far less entertaining things to read due to it. You can't try to write literature. It's a moniker that something earns after the fact and often for reasons not in any way related to whether it's something worth reading.

And dismissing Harry Potter, or any series, based on the rabidness of its fanbase is a touch narrow-minded. True, it'll never touch the 'Alice' stories but it's still a fun series to read through.

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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2006, 08:34:04 am »
I must say I like the majority of Pratchett's books new and old, and i have never read an Agatha Christie or Robert Jordan book so i cannot comment. However the author whom I will vent my spleen at is Patricia Cornwell, her books are not only a terrible read, that follow annoyingly similar plot lines, especially her Kay Scarpetta series, but in theaforementioned books the main charactor does not even act like a pathologist should. She plays the discriminated woman card all the time despite the fact that her charactor is right at the top of her chosen career.  The main charactor seem to have an emotional age of 16 or 61 depending upon the situation, the serial killers in her book seem like she has lifted them out of the newspaper archives, and anyone who doesn't get on with the main charactor is either evil or outrageously corrupt, and usually dies. I am doing a degree in forensic science and if anyone else mentions these toilet roll substitutes again when i tell them what degree I'm doing I will not be held responsible for my actions nor for the mess.
P.S. CSI can be included in that too

edit: cleaned up the grammer
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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2006, 08:58:23 am »
Terry Prattchett is a good writer. He is funny and light, yet can have some interetsing charcaters and gritty parts. Look at Vimes. Such a shallow character at first, but then read all the books featuring him, and you'll realise he's a complicated individual.

Robert Jordan? I actualy like his books, but they ARE far too slow.  I've just finsihed Fires of Heaven and its my favourite so far.
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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #40 on: May 04, 2006, 10:52:30 pm »
King. That's an author who'se seen his glory days. Dreamcatcher was really weird. He took things from Alien all the time. I know it was intentional but why would you do that? It didn't make sense and it felt imaginative as a porno movie script(but better written).

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Re: I dislike authors who live off their hits.
« Reply #41 on: May 05, 2006, 11:24:21 am »
King. That's an author who'se seen his glory days. Dreamcatcher was really weird. He took things from Alien all the time. I know it was intentional but why would you do that? It didn't make sense and it felt imaginative as a porno movie script(but better written).

Cell was freakin' awesome, though
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