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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #210 on: May 09, 2008, 12:23:47 am »
I emailed MaxisCactus when this started and didn't get an answer, rob emailed him and Cactus said that he/she couldn't comment on SecuROM at this moment, but that they are aware of our concern.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #211 on: May 09, 2008, 12:29:12 am »
There's probably a big divide between the people who actually made the game, who want it to do well and make a name for itself, and the faceless soulless blood sucking marketing and sales people who want to squeeze as much cash out of this as they can in one fell swoop, and then leave it to rot and if they can get a load of consumer browsing and game info while they're at it (because I'm damn sure it's not just going to be rechecking the security code every 5-10 days) then all the better.

What have you got against intellectual midgets? They're quite smart little guys as far as i can tell.

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #212 on: May 09, 2008, 01:06:49 am »
yay, I'll be in the news as I'm the only person in the world who will buy spore ^^

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #213 on: May 09, 2008, 01:12:34 am »
Hey, it could happen.

So, CosmicD. Mind if I come over on September 15th to play Spore on your computer? That'll give you some time to play it yourself.
This way, I'll be the first to book some time on there.
I can't pay you anything, but I could probably... striptease or something. Whatever that means.



EDIT: But really, no matter how challenging, all crackers will see this as a challenge.
And when they do crack it, it'll be everywhere. They'll be famous like I said, even for a short time.
Each patch they put out that fixes one bug and attempts to stop cracks will be cracked.
You cannot stop piracy by making everybody jump through these incredibly f-tarded hoops.

You know what? If Wright ever leaves EA to strike off on his own again, I personally pledge to his new game company $1000.
What the hell.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #214 on: May 09, 2008, 01:25:06 am »
It really sucks that securom..

I think it is confirmed we get it. Multiple sites do mention it used on spore and mass effect. We will for sure see how it goes by following mass effect.

I wanted really to buy spore and do it the legal way but one thing only pisses me off.

Can anyone confirm this?

I have heard that we can not install the game on two different computers or else our key gets banned.

First of I dont know if this means anytime or sametime.

Both is giving me trouble since I spend the weekend at another place and workdays at my big comp. So I wont be able to play spore the weekends or the workdays...

That is utter bull****. Do it the steam way. So we cant login and play at the same time but we can use it on different computers..much better.

further more a max of 3 installs. I am a teacher in computers so I often install xp or vista depending on what type of classes I get. Therefore my limit of 3 installs will be used VERY quickly. Heck, most of us can have computer trouble and installing OS serveral times...has done that to make Sli work.

Now I also has to fear my hardearned paid game wont work? WTF.

And to make matters worse that 5-10 days verification, then 10 day extended. Means that we could lose the key after 15 days...if matters is worst. Like a small holyday trip or christmas...where you are busy and have not been online.

What if your internet connection drops out due to issues with the internet provider or repairs...then your game is worthless too. Or you could use one of the installs, install on another pc..then strike 2.

Buying the game, I would do it anyday but If I need to buy the game, then get a hack to remove serucom and fear that Anyday it will be discovered and my game removed, key stopped is just as bad.

I wont support EA , this is the only way we show them how we feel about serurom. I am just sad if a great game like Spore will be hit!.

By the way does EA plan on using this on all their games...?
I think many of us is looking forward to hear how the mass effect game goes with this securom.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #215 on: May 09, 2008, 02:11:14 am »
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #216 on: May 09, 2008, 02:28:52 am »
And to make matters worse that 5-10 days verification, then 10 day extended. Means that we could lose the key after 15 days...if matters is worst. Like a small holyday trip or christmas...where you are busy and have not been online.

Of all of the crap I've read this is the one that makes the least sense. If it's true I wouldn't even think of touching spore.

I got very sick last year and was in the hospital for 2 weeks and had a 3 week period where I couldn't get out of bed. No PC for all that time. If I came home after nearly dying and couldn't play my favorite game I'd be damn pissed.

I don't see how they could do that though. It's completely outrageous.

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #217 on: May 09, 2008, 02:36:18 am »
You can play the game again as soon as you've connected to the 'net.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #218 on: May 09, 2008, 02:52:39 am »
microsoft has this as well with thei WGA thing, should everyone stop using windows as well? If you pay and you're not online , you can call a 0800 number to acvtivate stuff,

guess what ?

if needed you can activate securom via a phone call too ^^

You don't seem to grasp the problem. Windows require you to activate it ONCE. This requires you to activate it ONCE every TENTH DAY for the rest of your life.

To the people who thinks pirates will spend longer time cracking this for Spore they won't. Why? Because Mass Effect is released months in advanced with the same protection scheme. Once a protection scheme is broken it's broken. As simple as that. I wouldn't be surprised if they spend at most a week cracking Mass Effect, but this won't be the same for Spore.

Just to repeat it to the people who don't seem to get it, this is not a cat and mouse game.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #219 on: May 09, 2008, 03:29:28 am »
yay, I'll be in the news as I'm the only person in the world who will buy spore ^^

You're also the only one who seems to be in favour of SecuROM... I personally don't care since I got an internet connection, but I'd still like to play the game after 10 days with no connection, after all it's both a singleplayer and multiplayer game and I PAID for it, why should it work offline and after 10 days not work at all until I connect again?

When I buy a game like TF2 for example, I know what I'm paying for and I know I won't be able to play it offline because there are no bots and the game is made for online play. But I buy it knowing what I'm buying, but allowing someone to play a game they bought offline for only 10 days after you were last connected to the internet is just damn straight stupid.

Oh, btw, I don't think you'd have much fun being the only one playing Spore, you'd have nobody to share your creations with and all the creatures, etc you'd encounter would be the ones that came with the DVD and your own... That would get pretty boring really fast ^^
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #220 on: May 09, 2008, 03:43:08 am »
Spaceoddity:

how do you explain this then. If we can just reconnect and play on.


"This new version is causing controversy due to an online verification system connected to its CD key. The system requires a connection to the internet during installation… After this the game will try to re-check the CD key every 5-10 days… If the game can’t verify the key… it will continue to try for a further 10 days, after which it will stop working… The protection will also only allow the game to be installed three times.

Taken from here:
http://gamepolitics.com/2008/05/08/pc-gamers-angered-by-eas-new-copy-protection-system/

I must say I am worried that stop working means your key is gone. If disabled then it could mean you have 2 installs left...the counter is ticking.
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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #221 on: May 09, 2008, 03:58:03 am »
you don't even have to do anything to activate the game every 10 days. the game will just "phone home" every 10 days while you are asleep, having your computer on at night.

Seariously, I understand the hassle, but what I don't understand is people suddenly coming up with "what if i" situations they will probably never get into as an excuse :P

I read on the securom site that when the drivers disable something, they disable some low level stuff that is used to make exact copies from cd's.

WIth Starforce this was also a major dispute.

I'd also want to disable the thief as much as possible from coming into my home.

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #222 on: May 09, 2008, 05:07:10 am »
Why would an average customer that has already bought the game want to make copy's of it? In what way does this stop pirates that just download a modified version of it that don't do this?
The customer isn't the thief.
This is like locking your door when theres a hole in your wall.

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #223 on: May 09, 2008, 05:07:31 am »
you don't even have to do anything to activate the game every 10 days. the game will just "phone home" every 10 days while you are asleep, having your computer on at night.

Seariously, I understand the hassle, but what I don't understand is people suddenly coming up with "what if i" situations they will probably never get into as an excuse :P

No, no... I don't think you really do understand.  Do you realize who the only people this really effects are?  It only really effects the honest people and the "wannabe pirate".  The real people pirating the software WILL break it and it WILL be pirated.

So, realistically, its only Joe Schmo that this effects.  Billy Pirate will just laugh to himself the whole way through.

I read on the securom site that when the drivers disable something, they disable some low level stuff that is used to make exact copies from cd's.

WIth Starforce this was also a major dispute.

I'd also want to disable the thief as much as possible from coming into my home.

And this proves you just don't get it.  Who owns your computer?  Last I check, you paid for it... so why should you install some kind of spyware (eg sonys rootkit) to have to use a service?

If you don't want to own your computer, feel free to send it my way... I'll give you plenty of 'value added benefit'.

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Re: Ack...SecuROM....(WARNING: RUMOR)
« Reply #224 on: May 09, 2008, 05:09:04 am »
Why would an average customer that has already bought the game want to make copy's of it? In what way does this stop pirates that just download a modified version of it that don't do this?
The customer isn't the thief.
This is like locking your door when theres a hole in your wall.

Some of us like to make ISO's of our game and use Daemon Tools to play the game... We leave the CD in the box...  This means A) Instant load times... Its not reading from a CD/DVD and B) the CD is safe and clean... so my shoddy optical drive or kid or some other weird ass occurence that people claim to happen never will.