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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2008, 07:17:39 am »
I actually had a discussion about this with a friend in philosophy class yesterday. After discussing something else I asked him how you would be able to travel faster than light speed. My suggestion was to bend the dimensions, and we started talking about flatlander and dimensions.

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2008, 05:02:28 am »
What do you think will happen if we were suddenly able to see a 4-Dimensional world? What would it feel like? Would it be like a blind person being able to see for the first time? :)

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2008, 05:08:34 pm »
You couldn't see a four dimensional world under any circumstances.

This isn't infrared Yuu, it's another DIMENSION.

We're three dimensional beings, so we couldn't have an organ capable of detecting four dimensions.

Flatlanders can't exactly have an eyeball now can they?

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2008, 05:53:56 pm »
There is a book called Spaceland where a 4-dimensional creature genetically modifies a human to have a 4-dimensional eye.
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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2008, 05:37:37 am »
There is a book called Spaceland where a 4-dimensional creature genetically modifies a human to have a 4-dimensional eye.
Somewhat near my idea. :) If we could feel what a 4Der or 7Der would feel, what would it be like?

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2008, 07:40:48 am »
On a somewhat related note, I had a discussion pertaining to this sort of stuff and we figured out that logically a 4d organism (That is, one which can move at will through length, width, depth and duration, while being dragged along through a 5th dimension) with intelligence equivalent to a human would need be only a fraction of the size (even factoring in its 'size' in time). Since the brain functions on connections and you can fit in more overlapping connections with each dimension you add.

A creature with a brain of 1500 cm4 (if time is indeed a spatial dimension then one should be able to measure it in cms, inches or any other length measurement), would be vastly more intelligent than us humans with out 1500 cc brains.
So perhaps 4d people live among us, but are really tiny  :P
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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2008, 12:59:40 am »
I always wondered why outside and inside weren't considered dimensions.

Because they're still places bound to the 3 measurable dimensions (no time, no!) within our universe and can both be placed on the same map?

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2008, 01:50:40 pm »
Time is a measurable dimension.

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2008, 08:36:44 am »
Off topic. Does this mean ancancion it a portal to 10D?

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2008, 01:06:28 pm »
If we were "dragged" into the 4th dimension, our space would become fourth dimensional, evealing a massive gap in our body, our organs would fall ata and we would die. :(
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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2008, 01:25:53 pm »
If we were "dragged" into the 4th dimension, our space would become fourth dimensional, evealing a massive gap in our body, our organs would fall ata and we would die. :(

Not really. Our organs would simply occupy the 0 point of the fourth dimension. So if our heart was at (1,12,12.31) before, it would be at (1,12,12.31,0) after.

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2008, 01:38:39 pm »
But if you brought a flatlander into the 3rd dimension and turned him sideways, are you saying his organs would stay put?
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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2008, 01:43:41 pm »
Well, you are moving him and therefore his organs. Really, all you'd be doing is performing a trasformation on him, for instance, if you lay flat a rectangle and stand it up, all it does is ditch one dimenension for another. Nothing magically plops out.

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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2008, 02:02:34 pm »
Damn you and your understanding of how gravity affects lower dimensional beings in a higher dimension plane!
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Re: Flatland!
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2008, 06:44:43 pm »
Quote from: Flatland
`Whenever you open your eyes, you see a Plane (which is of Two Dimensions) and you INFER a Solid (which is of Three); but in reality you also see (though you do not recognize) a Fourth Dimension, which is not colour nor brightness nor anything of the kind, but a true Dimension, although I cannot point out to you its direction, nor can you possibly measure it.'

And there you go. Time is not a dimension. Another dimension would have to be something we have no understanding of.

Course the analogy falls apart since geometrical figures have no sentience to speak of...
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