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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2009, 10:18:45 pm »
Incidentally I finished that book in six hours:P

Oh and, I don't agree with you guys on Tolkien. I'm on my seventh re-read of the Hobbit and it still isn't old.
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #121 on: February 24, 2009, 11:21:06 pm »
The above post is why I never said Tolkien wrote the worst books. He has plenty of fans who really enjoy his prose, and to still be popular so far after he's written his stories you know they've been enjoyed world wide. I personally don't like the writing style, and I know many who don't, but my comment two sentences earlier is proof that he is still an excellent writer.

I also don't like Stephen King too much. Don't like the way he works, ironically enough, I like Richard Bachman. Before anyone points it out, I know who Mr. Bachman really is, which is why I find it funny that I like his works, and not King's.

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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #122 on: February 25, 2009, 05:52:53 pm »
Tolkien's stories are good when he actually focuses on the story!

One of the main problems I found with Tolkien is the overly-large backstory.


That, and the fact that after him, all fantasy novels known to man used the exact same setting (elves are tree dwellers with pointy ears, kobolds are lizard-like things, orcs, etc.)


For once, can't they write a fantasy novel that actually uses true Celtic folklore?  Fir Bolg?  Trolls (Ugly humanoids, not hulking monsters)?  Redcaps?  Goblins (Of the non-green variety)?  Seelie court?

Kobolds are actually a type of goblin, found in mines.  They look like goblins.
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #123 on: February 25, 2009, 07:11:34 pm »
That, and the fact that after him, all fantasy novels known to man used the exact same setting (elves are tree dwellers with pointy ears, kobolds are lizard-like things, orcs, etc.)

which is exactly why I don't read fantasy

well, I like Deathgate...the first one seemed to be moderately different from the average fantasy offering...
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #124 on: February 26, 2009, 06:34:08 am »
That, and the fact that after him, all fantasy novels known to man used the exact same setting (elves are tree dwellers with pointy ears, kobolds are lizard-like things, orcs, etc.)

which is exactly why I don't read fantasy

well, I like Deathgate...the first one seemed to be moderately different from the average fantasy offering...

This is really unfair. Have you really only looked into Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms as fantasy then to really make this opinion? George R.R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire series does not even have elves or other such races and is full of political intrigue. James Marco's the Inhuman trilogy was great fantasy and was quite original (even if the back of the first one sounds really close to Lord of the Rings, it really isn't), Conan is fantasy and is all barbarians. The Sleeping God is a book about Mercenaries and backstabbing without involving elves goblins and such. Bernard Cornwell's King Arthur series is Arthurian fantasy and quite different from the norm as well. Any of the Diablo books are quite good as well.

There are plenty of fantasy books out there that don't completely rip off Tolkien and are actually really good, and so an entire genre shouldn't be ignored because some of the most popular out there seem like Tolkien.

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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #125 on: February 26, 2009, 07:05:14 am »
well then...I guess I just don't like fantasy in general...
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #126 on: February 26, 2009, 07:12:58 am »
Opera, check out books by Neil Gaiman. They're technically fantasy, but not the swords and sorcery stuff.
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #127 on: February 26, 2009, 02:51:08 pm »
Tolkien's stories are good when he actually focuses on the story!

One of the main problems I found with Tolkien is the overly-large backstory.
I'm not sure if I mentioned it on thsi forum but my issue with Tolkien was a page of moving the story forward then 2 chapters of Legolas and Gimli saying "your my best friend, I love you, I love you more, no I love you more". Have you ever had to suffer a friend talking with his girl on the phone arguing over who will hang up 1st it was like reading that. Most Tolkien bashers pretty much accuse half the characters of being homosexuals and with dialouge along the lines of that it's hard to defend. I couldnt care less what elves dwarves and hobbits do to each other behind closed doors. Get back to the story!

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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #128 on: February 26, 2009, 03:01:36 pm »
I like Tolkein's work, therefore the rest of you are all wrong and I hate your guts.

Nah, I'm kidding.  Tolkein's style definitely isn't for everyone, and I haven't read the books in a long time.  But I would like to mention that I don't remember anything called a kobold in his books.
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2009, 03:48:34 pm »
Opera, check out books by Neil Gaiman. They're technically fantasy, but not the swords and sorcery stuff.

oh, you're right, excellent point...American Gods and Anansi Boys are up among my favorite books...oh, Good Omens, too, does that count?

any other books similar to his?
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #130 on: February 27, 2009, 09:33:21 am »
Damn, you've read more than me then Opera

I've only read American Gods and Good Omens  :-[
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2009, 11:02:07 am »
I've heard good things about those books, I should read them some time.
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #132 on: February 27, 2009, 08:06:12 pm »
Does this book... Dragonlance, involve dragons?

Does it involve elves, dwarves, etc too?
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #133 on: February 27, 2009, 08:53:41 pm »
Damn, you've read more than me then Opera

I've only read American Gods and Good Omens  :-[

Anansi Boys is really good, too...very different tone from American Gods though, reminds me a bit more of Hitchhiker's Guide (although I'm apt to say that for nearly any humorous novel)


Does this book... Dragonlance, involve dragons?

Does it involve elves, dwarves, etc too?

you know, I actually read that a while ago at the suggestion of a friend, and I don't remember a damn thing about it...except for, yes, it involves aforementioned species-type things
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Re: The worst book you've ever read
« Reply #134 on: March 07, 2009, 10:21:26 am »
Dragonlance was similar to Forgotten Realms, it was close to a Dungeons & Dragons scenario.