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Title: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Oviraptor on January 03, 2008, 02:56:52 pm
Links:
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Day 5 (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg472116#msg472116)Night 5 (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg473106#msg473106)

Rules:

The players will be split into Forum Members (Townsfolk) and Trolls (Mafia) on a 2 to 1 ratio. How you win the game is dependent on which team you're in. There is one player designated as the 1337 Hacker. He is out to turn every into Hackers.

Forum Members
WIN CONDITION: BAN ALL THE TROLLS & HACKERS
KILL METHOD: DAYTIME BANNING
Forum Members are the uninformed majority. Their main advantage is that they have twice as many people as the Trolls do - Forum Members do not know the identity of other players, which means they have to rely on logic and observance of other players during the day to determine what their affiliation could be. This makes them open to manipulation by the Trolls who mingle with them during the day and influence the burning. The Forum Members are at a disadvantage in the early game, but get potentially stronger as the game continues.

TROLLS
WIN CONDITION: EQUAL OR SURPASS THE FORUM MEMBERS IN NUMBER & ALL HACKERS MUST BE BANNED OR DELETED
KILL METHOD: DELETION AT NIGHT
The Trolls are the informed minority. They are fewer in number than the Forum Members so deaths of their kind are much more costly, but their defining advantage is that they know who each other are, and are allowed to communicate with each other in secret to plan their strategy - who to delete, how to use their powers towards a common goal, and how to manipulate the Forum Members into deleteing themselves.

Unlike the Forum Members, they are a centralized faction and have a leader, the Godfather, who is responsible for communicating the Trolls' desires to the game moderator (Oviraptor). Each night they are allowed to delete one Forum Member, this is reached via popular decision. The Trolls are strong at the beginning of the game but their strength level does not have as much capacity for growth as the Forum Members.

The game progresses in phases, each being a minimum of 12 hours in length at the beginning and shortening as necessary as the game goes on. The two phases are DAY and NIGHT.

1337 HACKER
WIN CONDITION: MUST BE ONLY HACKERS LEFT ALIVE
KILL METHOD: NONE, HACKS OTHERS TO CONVERT THEM INTO HACKERS
The 1337 Hacker's goal is to make sure everyone else is a Hacker. The original 1337 Hacker is the only one that can turn others into Hackers. The other Hackers would function exactly the same as their original roles, only now they would be on the 1337 Hacker's team. To make it trickier, none of the Hackers know who each other are, with the exception of the 1337 Hacker, since he chooses his own victims. After every night, there will be a Hacker count posted. All it will tell you is the total number of Hackers, not who was turned into a Hacker. If you are hacked, I will PM you to tell you so. From that point on, you'll secretly be playing for the Hackers. Whoever you were affiliated for before, you won't be anymore, Forum Members and Trolls alike.

DAY PHASE
During the Day Phase, all players - Forum Members, Trolls, and Hackers - must vote on who should be banned. At the end of the phase, the one with the highest votes will be banned and eliminated from the game. If there is a tie, then no one will be banned. Be sure there is not a tie. This might mean that a few players will have to change their vote. The day phase will start at 24 hours.

You may not abstain from voting, a non-vote will count against you. You may only change your vote ONE time during the day phase. - it is only made final when the phase ends. If you miss three day-phase votes during the game, you will be removed permanently. You may PM me your vote early if you are unable to post on the forum during day phase. I will check both places.

When you vote, please place the person you are voting for in bold.

NIGHT PHASE
During the Night Phase, the Trolls plot on who to delete if they haven't already drawn up a plan. Once they have reached a decision, the Godfather PMs the game moderator with which person is going to be deleted, which Troll member is going to do the deleting, and how the deleting is going to be done. Also in this phase, active role powers are brought into play – Kung-Fu Master deletes, Nitpick switches, and so forth. The Night Phase ends after a min. of 12 hours.

Day and Night cycle repeatedly until one side wins. In other words, players are constantly being eliminated from the game. Time will be adjusted as the game progresses if needed. I will always tell you how much time you have when I post an update. If you know you will be unable to post during the designated time then please make your wishes known to me in advance.

POWER USAGE
All roles have their own special powers which sets them apart from other roles. These come in two forms - Passive and Active.

Passive powers are always in effect unless something happens to change or remove them. You do not have to PM me if you have a passive power.

Active powers must be called. To do this, you PM me with a request to use your power, stating the target(s) if the power requires it. You can send me your power call anytime and it will be put into effect at the end of the next night phase.

Powers can also be of Unlimited or Limited use.

Unlimited powers can be used as many times throughout the game as the user pleases.

Limited powers only have a set number of uses. Bear in mind that powers may have other conditions that need to be adhered to. For example, Deacons cannot protect themselves.

The order powers are used in are determined by role category. The order is thus: DISRUPT > PROTECT > DELETE > INVESTIGATE
The only exemption to this is the Philosopher role, who always goes first.

BANNING/DELETION
Keep in mind that you can be banned or deleted at pretty much any time of the game. When a player is banned or deleted, their role is revealed to all the other players, and they are no longer able to post in the main thread or interact with the game in any way. You are NOT allowed a ghost post or parting shot in the main game thread. I will delete any post you make in the game thread if you are banned or deleted.

You are allowed to post in the Banned Land thread but you may not reveal any more game information. This means you cannot continue to assert that someone is a Troll or give out any information that could disrupt the game; you are banned/deleted. I will delete any post that gives out or alleges information that could affect the ongoing game. Let's keep it fair. This also means that you are not allowed to PM anyone with information. I know I can't enforce this part but I'm asking you to play fairly.

FORBIDDEN THINGS:
1 - Do not directly reveal another player's role.
You are allowed to reveal or lie about your own role as you please, but revealing another player's role directly will result in being expelled from the game. This includes traitors and investigators; they may not post the list of Troll/Forum Member people. They must be secret. If you tell, you are gone.

Revealing discovered interactions if you're a detective, psychic, or any other interaction-learning role is fine, so long as you make it seem like a suspicion and not a fact. Accusations or lists of your own suspicions are fine too - to be on the safe side, please state that you are accusing.

2- You may not post or quote any of my PM's to you in the form of text or photos. Any information that is sent to you as a result of you using your powers is for your eyes only (exception is with the Trolls who shares info according to game rules). If this rule is broken, you are removed from the game.

3- Do not use Who's Online to see who is sending PMs.
I realize this is incredibly hard to enforce and difficult to detect, but still, have some honor. Let's keep the game fair and honest. Don't assume that because someone is sending a PM that it is game related. A lot of people communicate that way.

4- Forum Members cannot communicate with each other.
This means they cannot PM/email/chat or use any means of communication with each other. Forum Members have to use the information given to them during the game. Example: The Admin cannot PM the Moderators since he knows who they are.

5- Don't take judgments personally.
Manipulation, accusation, treachery, judgments and all things of the sort are all parts of this game - do not join the game if you feel you cannot handle these things. Quitting in the middle of a game because you can't stand the heat of the kitchen is very disruptive to the game as a whole, so don't even think about it. On that note, though...

6- Keep it civil.
Manipulation, accusation, treachery, and judgments may well be parts of this game, but outright insulting another player isn't. This isn't the place to bring your grudges or spiteful streaks. Do not vote to delete someone based on the fact that you don't like them. Base it on the game only.

7- If you die or are not an active player, please stay out of the game thread.
The main game thread is for living, active players - if you are banned /deleted or are simply a spectator, please go to the Banned Land thread to post so that the players don't have to sift through clutter posts.

8- If you are an active player, please stay out of the Banned Land thread.
In order to keep the game free of being influenced by outside suggestion, I would suggest staying out of the topic for banned/deleted players.

If you have any questions about the rules, please ask me now. Once the game has begun, the rules will be followed, no exceptions. If something comes up during the game that I haven't covered then I will make a judgment call and it will be final. I want everyone to have fun and play fair. :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on January 03, 2008, 02:58:27 pm
Possible Roles:

DISRUPTORS

GRAMMARIAN
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Unlimited
Picks 2 targets – Powers/actions used on one target that night will be applied to the other and vice versa.
Cannot target self.

NITPICK
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Unlimited
Picks 2 targets - The Powers/actions of those two targets will be switched for the night.
Cannot target self.

IMPOSTER
AFF: TROLLS
Power Type: Active, One Shot
Takes away target's power permanently. Becomes able to use it for himself.
If target is 1337 Hacker, the Imposter will be hacked and lose his power.

FILIBUSTER
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Three Uses
Scares a target, preventing them using their power that night. 

PHILOSOPHER
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, Four uses
Has a number of attacks which are one-shot.
Devices mimic the effects of other roles, but the Philosopher can't tell which is which
until the attack has been used.
Always goes first in the power order, no matter what.
Cannot target self.

NECROMANCER
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, One Shot
Chooses a role of someone who has been banned or deleted. This becomes their new role for the rest of the game. Previous affiliation of target is not transferred.
Cannot take the Godfather or 1337 Hacker roles.

INVESTIGATORS

MODERATOR/CROOKED MODERATOR
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Unlimited
May investigate a player every night.
May choose between learning role, or activities for the night.
Crooked Moderators can only learn roles.

ADMIN
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Passive
Works like a regular Moderator, except knows who all the other Moderators are.
Crooked Moderators will show up as innocent initially - they must be investigated to discover their true colors.

NANNY
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, Unlimited
Converts a target from a Hacker back into their former affiliation.
If target is not a Hacker, the Nanny will get a report back saying the target wasn’t a Hacker.
If target is a Hacker, the Nanny will get a report back saying the target was reverted to the target’s former role.
If target is the 1337 Hacker, the 1337 Hacker dies.

WHISPER
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Passive
Will learn the role of anyone who targets them.

ENT
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: None
Anyone who is a Forum Member will be informed who the Ent is at the beginning of the game.

AGENT
AFF: TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Three Uses
If an Agent's target is investigated that night, they will show up as a Troll, of a role of the Agent's choice.
May not select the Godfather as the framed role.

DELETERS

KUNG-FU MASTER
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, One use
May delete a player of their choice during the night.
Cannot target self.

BIG CAT
Aff: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Passive
If deleted during the night phase, their deleter dies with them.

PROTECTORS

DEACON
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, Unlimited
Can protect a target during the night - the target will not be deleted or hacked during the night for any reason.
Cannot target self.

GOD
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, One use
Can call down a mass protection during night, giving all players deletion and hack protection.
Knows who the Deacons are.

ROYAL
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Passive
Cannot be deleted at night. Can only be removed via a banning.

PALOOKA
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS
Power Type: Active, Three uses
Can choose to protect themselves from all interaction for one night.

STEALTH
AFF: FORUM MEMBERS/TROLLS
Power Type: Active, Semi-Limited
Can choose to "hide behind" another player each night.
Any powers directly targeted at Stealth will fail.
Any powers targeted at Stealth's target will also affect Stealth.
Power is effectively unlimited except for Stealth may not hide behind the same person twice in one game.

MISC

GODFATHER
AFF: TROLLS
Power Type: Passive
Leader of the Trolls. Responsible for PMing the Trolls’ vote to the game moderator (Oviraptor).
Shows up as innocent (as a random role) when investigated.
Must name a fellow Trolls to take over as Godfather, should the Godfather be banned or deleted.
New Godfathers forfeit their old role powers.

1337 HACKER
Aff: HACKER
Power Type: Hack
Wins the game by converting everyone else into Hackers. Neither Trolls nor Forum Members can win until all Hackers have been eliminated.
There is only ever one 1337 Hacker at most in the game.
Can bite once per night.
If targeted by the Imposter, the Imposter is hacked, and loses his power.
Targeting the nanny will cause the nanny to be deleted.

HACKER
Aff: SPECIAL
Power Type: N/A
When the 1337 Hacker hacks another player they become a Hacker. Their powers and role remain the same as before, but now they are playing for the Hacker team, and not the team they originally started as.
If targeted by a Nanny, the Hacker will revert to its former affiliation.

BIG DOG
Aff: SPECIAL
Power Type: N/A
The Big Dog does not know he is the Big Dog. His normal role is unaffected by being Big Dog.

ME TOO
Aff: SPECIAL
Power Type: N/A
Me Too knows who Big Dog is, but not his role or affiliation. Me Too must vote the same as Big Dog. If Big Dog votes for Me Too, Me Too must vote for Big Dog. His normal role is unaffected by being Me Too. If Big Dog is banned or deleted, Me Too can then vote freely.

FORUM RAT
AFF: SPECIAL
Power Type: N/A
Found as a Forum Member, but works for the Trolls.
Has another fully functional Forum Member role alongside their traitor status.
Knows who the Trolls are.
Must protect the Trolls by influencing ban votes the wrong way intentionally or using his power to disrupt the Forum Members, without being banned himself.
If the Trolls win, the rat wins too.
If the Forum Members win, the rat loses.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Oviraptor on January 05, 2008, 08:01:23 am
Things on the Gaming Steve forum aren't as they should be. Normally a peaceful and pleasant place, it is being overrun by Trolls. The forum needs help finding the Trolls and banning them. If that isn't enough, there is also a 1337 Hacker on the loose who is hacking into others' accounts and turning them over to his side.

Day 1
Vote start: 11:00 AM EST Saturday January 5, 2008
Vote end (max): 12:00 PM EST Sunday January 6, 2008

Who should be the first to be banned?

7 who ate 9

Brandonazz

Celdur

Clockwerk

Krakow Sam

LadyM

Lualmoba

Luminar

Mr. Consideration

neoadept

Neoteric

PatMan33

Person21

Plank of Wood

Rhodix

shadowlord18

The Time Traveller

unlamp

Yokto

Yossitaru

**Remember, if you don't cast a vote, it counts against you**
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 05, 2008, 08:19:24 am
Yay, it started... now.. who to vote for... *looks down the list*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 05, 2008, 08:21:53 am
First vote! Yes! I vote on The Time Traveller for reason any one of pure heart can figure out.  I have nothing personal against you The Time Traveller.

I still reserve the right to change my vote
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 08:40:27 am
Interesting...  I'll hang back until I see where this is going.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 05, 2008, 08:58:50 am
LotR will tell it all! Do not let the forces of Sauron corrupt us! The Trolls shall never win!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 09:13:59 am
*cracks knuckles* Let's... have... a go at it!

Too early to tell much at this stage. I'm gonna go ahead and put one down on Yokto.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 05, 2008, 09:17:57 am
Well those of pure heart can tell one thing. And that is what mockery of life Trolls are! See the truth my friend. I hope you change you vote to the right course. But if i would die i hope i die a martyrs death and that it would not have bin in vain.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 05, 2008, 10:12:48 am
I vote clockwork, i don't have anything against him, I never even heard of him before. I figured since I never heard of him before it wont really matter if he dies...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 10:55:29 am
I vote Yokto for my own reasons.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 11:24:39 am
Neoadept.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 11:45:40 am
What, again?  Elaborate immediately or you become a prime suspect.  You remember what happens to my prime suspects.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 05, 2008, 11:49:24 am
I'll change to Neoadapt.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 11:55:13 am
Elaborate immediately or you become a prime suspect.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 05, 2008, 11:58:58 am
I don't think threatening people like that is the best way to make people think you are on the good side.  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 05, 2008, 12:01:13 pm
Lual has a point, so I think I'll hold back from voting for now...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 12:07:06 pm
You would like my reasoning? No I don't think I'm going to tell you why I voted for you.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 12:10:12 pm
Voting without elaboration is worthy of being put down as a possible troll.  As there are very few suspects at this time, they immediately become prime.  I would do the same to any unelaborated vote, not just those for me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 12:10:44 pm
Neo, please, calm down and enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 05, 2008, 12:12:58 pm
Voting without elaboration is worthy of being put down as a possible troll.  As there are very few suspects at this time, they immediately become prime.  I would do the same to any unelaborated vote, not just those for me.

you know, you do have a point. I wont kill you right now, I'll go back to my vote of clockwork.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 05, 2008, 12:13:51 pm
I think you can only change your vote once.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 05, 2008, 12:16:03 pm
Yeah, you can only change once so its a good idea to be sure. I'm not sure yet.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yossitaru on January 05, 2008, 12:21:44 pm
How can anyone elaborate on anything on this first day? As a normal player, you don't have a whole lot to elaborate on, trolls wouldn't want to elaborate to retain the illusion of no knowledge, and the hacker would act in prime interest of self preservation. Your actions, neo, make me come to two conclusions; either you are the hacker trying to preserve yourself long enough to build your power, or you're trying to lure out trolls with a currently flimsy threat.

That said; I can elaborate on my vote for those very reasons; for the time being, my vote is for:

neoadept
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 12:23:20 pm
I sure hope neoadept isn't a townperson. Also, out of tradition I vote the Time Traveller.

Formerly known as Helloworld.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 12:24:25 pm
No, Vote for yokto! he's made a rve mistake unless... YOU'RE ALL MAFIA!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 12:26:04 pm
Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 12:26:42 pm
Brute aggression doesn't really suit the game and will likely get you killed one way or another, but it's too early to tell what neoadept is doing. I wouldn't mark him down as troll for his reaction just yet, wait till something more concrete comes along.

Think about it, neither the membership nor trolls, or hackers want to be wiped out, especially at this stage before they can do anything. Hmm... is it possible we might be able to force a tied vote to ensure there's no ban? That would work in our favour right now, unless we want to just rely on luck...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 05, 2008, 12:30:26 pm
It wouldn't exactly work in our favor since the Trolls still get their night kill and the Hacker gets his victim.
Last game the Naughty used ties so that their members were not killed.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 12:31:27 pm
Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?
It would break some rules.
Check the powers you mafia Fool.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 05, 2008, 12:55:35 pm
Anyways, because I agree with Yossitaru, and because I think that Neoadept is being strangely and unnecessarily hostile, I vote for Neoadept.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 05, 2008, 01:06:46 pm
No, Vote for yokto! he's made a rve mistake unless... YOU'RE ALL MAFIA!

My vote was far form a mistake. I know exactly who i voted for. Trust me. It was not a mistake and if you read my comments you may realize why.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 01:12:24 pm
This is all getting a bit convoluted. May I ask townsfolk not to attempt ruses or trickery, just play it straight - that's our best bet. The mafia are the ones trying to decieve us and given the state of disinformation we live in, adding more tangles and complications in the web of deciet isn't a good idea, it makes it much harder for cops and other influential roles to do their work right. Remember, we're on a limited timeframe - only so many of us can get eliminated before the mafia have an overwhelming advantage. So I ask that no tricks, lies, or risky maverick strategies come into it lest you let the side down.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yossitaru on January 05, 2008, 01:12:24 pm
Brute aggression doesn't really suit the game and will likely get you killed one way or another, but it's too early to tell what neoadept is doing. I wouldn't mark him down as troll for his reaction just yet, wait till something more concrete comes along.

You didn't read my arguments fully then. Troll was the one title I didn't have him marked for. I'll keep watching for other developments, but at the current moment, I believe neo is the hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 05, 2008, 01:54:23 pm
I'm going to vote for Neoadept too. He seems very eager to deflect attention away from himself with threats.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 01:59:24 pm
You seem to vote him already...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 02:38:08 pm
Everyone wants to kill Neoadept for some reason, general parnoida or Mafia plot?


I'm voting blitzonator because he voted againest my buddy Yokto!

No, Vote for yokto! he's made a rve mistake unless... YOU'RE ALL MAFIA!

This makes him look ethier parnoided or sispisious.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 02:50:14 pm
I sure hope neoadept isn't a townperson. Also, out of tradition I vote the Time Traveller.

Formerly known as Helloworld.
Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?

This is odd...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 03:00:52 pm
Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?
It would break some rules.
Check the powers you mafia Fool.

Above Post: Uh, no. You made a random accusation and I wanted to know if you were just making it up.

If you look at my past games I always vote Helloworld first.

And I do believe you're the fool if you don't know a yes or no question when you see it.

Ask your mafia to help you before you try to get me hung without evidence. You can't pull off the false logic like good mafia members have in the past.

EDIT: Also, I think Luminar has a point. Since us townspeople don't know who is mafia, there's a 2/3 chance the first person hung is a townsperson. We should force a draw and wait for evidence.

Of course if neoadept ends up hung and ends up being mafia then I'm dying next because of this post.  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 03:13:21 pm
aall I know iss that I know somthingg that aall townies should know. You have no idea so that makesss you prime suspect.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 03:17:59 pm
But I know he won't die.

What part of tradition don't you understand?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 03:26:16 pm
The fact that I suspect you. That vote cosst you.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 03:29:36 pm
Because you absolute proof of someone else being mafia?

My vote doesn't matter this round, so unless it will end up killing Helloworld, I'm keeping it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 03:30:04 pm
Blitz, could you please type properly and stop acting like a five year old?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 03:30:18 pm
Don't start hurling suspicion about so readily. It just makes the mafia's job far easier. Wait until we have something concrete that we can concur on as a group.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 03:35:40 pm
Pat: I poured lemonade over my key board so typing has become a tad difficult. :-[

Fact. check PM's
Fact, Anyone with common sense knows not to attack hello... look at the qoutes man..  LOOK AT THEM!!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 03:38:59 pm
And you did that at the direction of some of our other forum members didn't you?

Nice work.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 03:40:43 pm
Not at all. I just read the rules, my PM and what he said.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 03:42:02 pm
What? PMed who? You're only supposed to PM Oviraptor at any point in the game.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 03:43:20 pm
I was talking about the lemonade Blitz...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: blitzonator on January 05, 2008, 03:43:29 pm
My role and powers.

Pat: Oh.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 04:29:11 pm
Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?

Brandonazz, on the basis that we should all recognize added to the fact that the above indicates that "the vote wouldn't matter" was a flimsy cover constructed after he realized his mistake.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 04:56:31 pm
Ugh... i've been keeping my mouth shut up until now about it, but aren't we making something a little too obvious, people? -_-"
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Person21 on January 05, 2008, 05:08:15 pm
Yeah, but all hope of stopping the Trolls knowing is lost.

And we may as well take out a Troll, so Brandon
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 05, 2008, 05:10:57 pm
Ugh... i've been keeping my mouth shut up until now about it, but aren't we making something a little too obvious, people? -_-"

What does that mean? Man, i wish i could change my vote, im beginning to doubt neo is troll
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 05:19:59 pm
It means something im not going to say directly (for several reasons) but would take a hopelessly slow individual not to have caught on to by now. I'm simply speaking after the damage is done - guys, in future if you want to keep something under wraps, don't speak of it at all. It just draws attention to it. *glares at Yokto*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 05, 2008, 05:26:59 pm
I vote Brandonazz for obvious raisins reasons.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 05:28:49 pm
It means something im not going to say directly (for several reasons) but would take a hopelessly slow individual not to have caught on to by now. I'm simply speaking after the damage is done - guys, in future if you want to keep something under wraps, don't speak of it at all. It just draws attention to it. *glares at Yokto*


What do you have againest Yokto?  I demand to know  >:(!!!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 05, 2008, 05:32:08 pm
Ah! Im so confussed! somebody die get banned all ready!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: shadowlord18 on January 05, 2008, 05:34:18 pm
sorry i am late internet issues

i will abstine
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 05, 2008, 05:35:02 pm
It counts against you if you abstain.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 05:35:25 pm
I vote Brandonazz for obvious raisins reasons.

Obvious?  Do you mean because everyone is voting for him?  If I remember correctly YOU were MAFIA in the last game, AND YOU AND THE REST OF THE MAFIA VOTED TO HAVE ME KILLED ON THE FIRST DAY.

Capitazied for empasie.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 05:36:15 pm
You can not use past games as a point of reference, everything has been randomized.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 05:37:20 pm
1) To Clockwerk: He made a mistake. Nothing personal.
2) To Shadowlord: Abstaining isn't possible in this game.
3) To Clockwerk again: Past games make no difference on the current one.

Also, I might as well bite the bullet, I wish to change my vote from Yokto to Brandonazz. I pray my suspicions will vindicate me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 05:39:09 pm
You can not use past games as a point of reference, everything has been randomized.

True, but if the mafia is using a simlar stargy and knows how dangrous neoadept and Brandonazz would be againest them... , point taken however.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 05:44:40 pm
1) To Clockwerk: He made a mistake. Nothing personal.
2) To Shadowlord: Abstaining isn't possible in this game.
3) To Clockwerk again: Past games make no difference on the current one.

Also, I might as well bite the bullet, I wish to change my vote from Yokto to Brandonazz. I pray my suspicions will vindicate me.

1. Ah, you mean by voting for the Time Traver he made a mistake?  I see what you mean.

2. It is possible but it counts againest you.

3. Past games can be used to creat stagies and see who you should take out first.


I aplogize for double posting.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 05, 2008, 05:48:11 pm
3. Past games can be used to creat stagies and see who you should take out first.

This much is true, but you're judging their past actions rather than strategies.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 05, 2008, 05:56:09 pm
3. Past games can be used to creat stagies and see who you should take out first.

This much is true, but you're judging their past actions rather than strategies.

Your right I can't argue with that :-\.  In all games however the Mafia votes as a group, not one person or another.  So a towns person with the majortay votes must have had the Mafia after them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 05:57:38 pm
I can confirm that the Mafia rarely votes as a group, they depend on all of the other fools playing the game to think that they do though. Helps keep the confusion up.

Vote based on hard facts, not assumptions.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 06:00:35 pm
I can confirm that the Mafia rarely votes as a group, they depend on all of the other fools playing the game to think that they do though. Helps keep the confusion up.

Vote based on hard facts, not assumptions.

It's often too late by the time the townspeople have enough facts. You need to figure some things without them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 05, 2008, 06:03:42 pm
Hard facts need not be things you learn from this round of the game, as our friend Clock has stated.

My reasons for voting Neo out of the game are based on nothing I've learned this round or even in the Mafia series of games, it's just things I know about him that lead me to believe that my work will be easier if he is removed.

Selfish? Absolutely.
Effective? Definitely.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 05, 2008, 06:06:27 pm
Point in case is me. He changes his vote to me and others fall directly in line.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Neoadept on January 05, 2008, 06:10:08 pm
Oh, you were voting for me because I'm clever?  It's a reason, so I suppose that you're slightly less suspicious.  However, it's balanced out by the suggestion that my elimination would make it easier for you regardless of my affiliation.  You are less likely to be a Troll, and the prime suspect for being the Hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Rhodix on January 05, 2008, 06:29:48 pm
I vote for Person21.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 07:28:32 am
I vote for Person21.

Why?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Oviraptor on January 06, 2008, 08:13:50 am
Due to the forum being down for twelve hours last night, I'm going to give you guys two extra hours to put in your votes. Remember, if you do not vote, it counts against you.

Vote will end: 2:00 PM EST.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 08:16:26 am
Which I believe is 7pm GMT, for the benefit of the English...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 08:26:54 am
So Brandonazz or Neo ay? I do not know if any of them are with the trolls. I have some indicators but i will not go out with them yet.

I will keep my vote on the only one i am sure of! This forest of lies and deceptions is indeed tricky. Maybe if we cut down some trees we will know what to make of it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 08:45:09 am
I'm still undecided as to who to vote for, Brandon smells trollish but I don't want to make the wrong choice and its a tie and ... oh, I don't know, I guess I have two more hours.  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 08:45:56 am
I'm still undecided as to who to vote for, Brandon smells trollish but I don't want to make the wrong choice and its a tie and ... oh, I don't know, I guess I have two more hours.  :-\

Its not like much happens if you don't vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 08:49:50 am
So Brandonazz or Neo ay? I do not know if any of them are with the trolls. I have some indicators but i will not go out with them yet.

I will keep my vote on the only one i am sure of! This forest of lies and deceptions is indeed tricky. Maybe if we cut down some trees we will what to make of it.

Yeah, I seriously don't think your plan is going to work at this point...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 08:55:31 am
I have a plan? Cool  8)

Anyway, does no harm to wait a little longer, maybe one of them will say more and give me more information. Although I do notice that Brandon is not protesting much about being on the banning block. Usually he is saying that we'll find out how innocent he is when the banning happens but he's not protesting at all.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 08:56:48 am
Not you, Yokto. He erased his post.

EDIT: Actually no he didn't, i'm just inattentive.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 09:01:08 am
EDIT: In response to LadyM.

Why should I?

The vote is even right now. If it results in a tie, nobody dies, so I don't have anything to complain about.

I also learned from last game that nobody believes what I say until there is physcal proof. Since I have nothing to provide like last game with the reports, and nobod on townies does the first turn, I have nothing to say.

Further, I think neoadept is a townie, so I'm not eager to get him hung.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 09:09:20 am
Protest goes either way, it's completley useless as evidence.

neoadept protests? He's a hacker/troll.
Brandonazz doesn't protest? He's a troll.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 09:59:09 am
Ok, i am going to say that right know we at least know neo, yokto, and Brandon are the trolls. Lets kill neo off first then Brandon unless more clues show up.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 10:03:12 am
Ok, i am going to say that right know we at least know neo, yokto, and Brandon are the trolls. Lets kill neo off first then Brandon unless more clues show up.

I don't see a shard of evidence againest of ethier of those people, only assumsions. 
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 10:12:28 am
I have evidence, but im afraid if i share it the trolls will... well, i really can't share what i think the trolls will do either.

No, Vote for yokto! he's made a rve mistake unless... YOU'RE ALL MAFIA!

My vote was far form a mistake. I know exactly who i voted for. Trust me. It was not a mistake and if you read my comments you may realize why.

Actually, that makes me wonder differently, now im just confussed. But I am sure Brandon is mafia, for reasons on page 3. I am starting to think you to are mafia Clockwork.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 10:16:02 am
I have evidence, but im afraid if i share it the trolls will... well, i really can't share what i think the trolls will do either.



If you do not present evidence than I must assume you have none.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 10:20:05 am
I have evidence, but im afraid if i share it the trolls will... well, i really can't share what i think the trolls will do either.



If you do not present evidence than I must assume you have none.

Reasons on page 3. I am also starting to think you are mafia. Once again, who i think is mafia:

Yokto
Neo
Clockwork
Brandon

Do you know something about Helloworld that we don't know?

Brandonazz, on the basis that we should all recognize added to the fact that the above indicates that "the vote wouldn't matter" was a flimsy cover constructed after he realized his mistake.


Wait, so now i think neo isn't troll, but maybe a hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 11:00:02 am
I have no way to decided yet so I'm going to let the tie stand and vote for Lualmoba.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Oviraptor on January 06, 2008, 12:48:03 pm
After a long day at the forums, the forum members collectively decided that banning neoadept was the best course of action. As it turns out, he was the Necromancer for the Forum Members.

Night 1
Start: 12:00 PM EST Sunday, January 6, 2008
End: 10:00 AM EST Monday, January 7, 2008


If you have powers you want to use, now would be the time to send them. The Trolls will now convene and decide who to delete during the night.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 12:50:08 pm
Oh man. If only i didn't change my vote, then no one would die. Sigh...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 12:53:09 pm
I thought there was a tie but my spread sheet was wrong otherwise I would have made one. I certainly didn't want Neo to go.  :(
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 01:09:10 pm
Oh man. If only i didn't change my vote, then no one would die. Sigh...

You still thought he was Mafia and I told everyone there was no evidence that he was, so don't act all teary eyed.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 01:19:19 pm
Oh man. If only i didn't change my vote, then no one would die. Sigh...

You still thought he was Mafia and I told everyone there was no evidence that he was, so don't act all teary eyed.

I thought he was mafia, but i was much more sure of you and Brandon.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 01:22:08 pm
I think 789 just got on my "troll" list as well as anyone who voted for neoadept.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 01:24:46 pm
Yeah, on the first freaking page there was proof of a troll and they just ignore it?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 01:24:56 pm
Bah, I figured neo to be more in the 55/45 area, suspicion-wise. There were bigger fish to fry. Shame he can't bring himself back. =(
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 01:25:24 pm
One thing is sure. Anyone who claims that i am a Troll will put on my list as a suspect of being as troll. I act on the information i am given.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 01:26:48 pm
I think 789 just got on my "troll" list as well as anyone who voted for neoadept.

That's not a good idea. A lot of people voted for Neo.


And Plank, I didn't exactly understand that untill today when I re-read my PM. The thing is Yokto said "I know exactly what i did, i have my own reasons"
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 01:31:42 pm
I was refering to Brandonazz. I recomend that a mod checks him out tonight.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:07:31 pm
Some protection from the trolls would be nice.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 02:08:39 pm
I was refering to Brandonazz. I recomend that a mod checks him out tonight.

Great idea. But then again a crooked mod would defiantly try to throw us off with him.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:09:56 pm
Woo! I'm a point of interest tonight!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:11:59 pm
I was refering to Brandonazz. I recomend that a mod checks him out tonight.

Great idea. But then again a crooked mod would defiantly try to throw us off with him.

Good point, however if all the cops seach him then he would have no chance if he was troll, but that puts me under suspision of being a troll because I would want to direct the mod's attention away from my fellow trolls...


This is fun.  :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:14:38 pm
I was refering to Brandonazz. I recomend that a mod checks him out tonight.

Great idea. But then again a crooked mod would defiantly try to throw us off with him.

Good point, however if all the cops seach him then he would have no chance if he was troll, but that puts me under suspision of being a troll because I would want to direct the mod's attention away from my fellow trolls...


This is fun.  :)

You're trying to create confusion?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:17:13 pm
I was refering to Brandonazz. I recomend that a mod checks him out tonight.

Great idea. But then again a crooked mod would defiantly try to throw us off with him.

Good point, however if all the cops seach him then he would have no chance if he was troll, but that puts me under suspision of being a troll because I would want to direct the mod's attention away from my fellow trolls...


This is fun.  :)

You're trying to create confusion?

Confusion for the Confusion God!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 02:19:04 pm
Well it sure sucks that we killed a good guy but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes people are too smart for their own good, seems like Neo had a serious case of it.

Now if I know the Mafia half as well as I think they do, they'll be employing my own tactics against me. In the past I have always urged them to eliminate the smartest people of the bunch; I'm not bragging but I've got more experience with this game and with the other members' personalities and I'll be a sexy target tonight. If I could garner some protection that would be wonderful, if not that's all well and good. However if I am killed tonight I would urge you to follow my plan of action, the brightest people must be eliminated; it is preferable that they are Mafia but if they aren't then you'll just have to deal with it.

I've already got my voting order figured out, tell me if you want me to post it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:21:09 pm
Post it please.  :)

If you don't get murdered tonight, I'll so vote for you  :D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:22:42 pm
If Pat is mafia, and we do vote as he says, then we'd be doing exactly what the mafia would want us to do.

It doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:23:43 pm
It's the first turn, NOTHING makes sense.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 06, 2008, 02:25:21 pm
Damn, looks like we were a little too eager to be suspicious of neoadept's defensiveness.  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 02:26:58 pm
Lets make a voting list when this night is over. This night might change alot
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:27:05 pm
Wrong.

Pat is saying that we should vote out all of the smartest people, regardless of affiliation, but he also said that's what the mafia would do. If we do that, we only double the rate at which the mafia wins.

EDIT: Just try explaining Pat. You aren't very high on my list so I want to hear your logic.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:30:40 pm
Yokto and Brandon are our prime suspects, as is everyone who voted for neo.

Though Yokto did say he knew who he was voting for, so he goes into the lesser catagory.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 02:34:27 pm
I'm not really voting based on anything other than the order in which people need to be removed to ensure that neither side has a ringleader. The Townies don't need a leader as badly as the Mafia so one could assume that with all of the smart people eliminated the Townies will win solely because they do not need to be as organized and do not suffer as greatly from being rendered helpless. :D

Neoadept is always first.
Tonight we wait.
LadyM is lynched tomorrow.
Wait.
Brandonazz.
Wait.
Krakow Sam.
Wait.
Luminar.
Wait.
Yossitaru.
Wait.
Then I'd kill myself if I didn't already know I was innocent. Maybe if I wasn't me and had to choose to vote against me I'd put myself higher up the list but for now I think we're good.

Sorry to say, and no offense to the others, but these are the people you need to get rid of. In every single game they are the leaders and the rest are followers, without their leaders the followers will have no idea who to kill or what to do. And hey, odds are that some of the folks on that list are Mafia, I'll pin Brandon (Since he's being so quiet this round), Krakow Sam (Because I don't trust him as far as I can throw him in this game), and LadyM (Because she's good at keeping secrets and can play the female mod card so nobody will suspect her). If that was too blunt for some of you, well, suck it up because this is war; all of these things are things I've picked up around the forum and playing this game, and I have been on the Mafia team for every single game so I know what I'm talking about. Have a good one and watch your back.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 02:41:34 pm
I don't know but something about that seams odd... I do agree with you though, but I want to kill Brandon because we are pretty much sure he is mafia. And the kill everyone who voted for Neo is not a good idea, at all. Everyone thinks the mafia will plan against one person, they never do that.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 06, 2008, 02:46:05 pm
Hmm, I suppose I should be flattered, and Pat does have a point. Kill off the smartarses and whichever side they were on becomes impotent. Not that thats a good thing when all smart ones are townsfolk, however.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:48:24 pm
Alright, when LadyM is a Member and we realise we could have voted for Brandon who we all know is mafia, you'll come crying back to me.

And I'm not on your list Pat? I am offendend!  >:( (:P)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 02:48:41 pm
Well, everyone who voted for Neoadept is on my Troll list and that includes Pat. I'm 90% sure now that Brandon is probably a troll but Pat might well be the Hacker. He does know how to play this game well and will spin a story that makes you dizzy.  So, my fellow forumers, we should consider how dangerous Pat could be.

My list would be:

Patman33
Brandonazz
Krakow Sam
Lualmoba
Yossitaru
7 who ate 9

*lays the female mod card down*

ps.. I'm not sure about Yokto this game, he seems to have gone bonkers.  :D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 02:54:25 pm
PoW, I didn't vote for neoadept. I specifically said I wanted us both to survive because he was probably a townie.

And I don't know if my high position on standardized lists is a good thing.

Hold on *concentrates*

lol who is th trolls guyz?

Can you put me down some now?

EDIT: And Pat, how have I been quiet this round?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 02:56:55 pm
PoW, I didn't vote for neoadept. I specifically said I wanted us both to survive because he was probably a townie.

Your vote gave it away, troll!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yossitaru on January 06, 2008, 02:57:38 pm
I have a lot of work ahead of me then, I rank second to last on both lists!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 02:58:35 pm
My actions are sane. If cryptic.

But if i look insane then the trolls or the hacker might not come after me so thats a good thing for me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 03:01:37 pm
The hacker will probably go for the smart people.

Wait, then that discounts Patman as the hacker if he's encouraging smart-o-cide.

His plan is actually better for combating the hacker than the trolls. I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 03:10:06 pm
We haven't really got a plan for the hackers right now. Do we "fix" the leethacker's victims, look for them, eliminate them, or ignore them? Obviously we want to destroy the leethacker himself before he does too much damage, but what about the ones he converts?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 03:17:27 pm
Aren't they just then part of his team, but with no special powers?

That means that they're basically traitors with little influence once you cut off the head of the snake.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 03:31:04 pm
If someone becomes a hacker, they retain their original power but they are now working for the hacker. So if a troll gets hacked, then it's like he becomes a traitor for the hacker though he stays with the Trolls. I hope the Nanny uses their power every night on someone. Nanny can also kill the 1337 Hacker so its a key role. Go Nanny!

Oh, and my list isn't really in a specific order and I know that Brandon didn't vote Neo but I have another theory about him.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 03:53:42 pm
 I have a sneaking sispsion that the Trolls will get me.  After all I tried to defend Neoadept and see passed all the so called evidence (There was none on page 3). So here is my list of trolls:

Brandonazz: I defended him only because there was no REAL evidence againest him, I don't trust him but I most certinly will not vote for him.



Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 03:56:34 pm
OK question. What is wrong with us all becoming hackers? Then we would all win right?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 06, 2008, 03:57:35 pm
Umm..  Err...  I never got my power pmed.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 03:58:46 pm
He can't be serious.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 03:59:07 pm
OK question. What is wrong with us all becoming hackers? Then we would all win right?


We would be slave to the real hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 06, 2008, 04:01:24 pm
damnit i didnt even know that the game started! stupid small pm warning...

well im here now...

i read trough everything and i am completly confused

like it should be  ;D

please forgive my clumsynes
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 04:13:36 pm
Simply put, Brandon, last round you were MUCH more adamant about fishing out the Mafiosos. This round you seem somewhat reserved, could be a fluke though.

Also LadyM is right, I'll spin you all for a loop and beat you over the head with an aluminum bat if I have to. Since I seem to be less restrained this round (See: I don't have a boss) I'm going to do as much damage as possible in hopes that when the dust clears I will be able to easily weed out the last of the troublemakers and win the day. Victory by any means necessary.

The game is simple, prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a Townie and I won't kill you. Now with that out of the way, I would be quite happy to have some protection tonight, although I think there is a good chance the Mafia will overlook me because they will think that I'm doing enough damage on my own; why would they want to kill me if I'm adamantly preaching to kill everyone regardless of affiliation? If anything the Mafia will kill a high profile person or they will kill an oddball who has not been doing anything; I would go for the latter at the time of this statement because it builds confusion. Such is the mindset of the Mafia, create confusion and the Townies will drop like dominoes.

You're going to have to trust me on this one, I helped make most of their strategies.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 06, 2008, 04:22:10 pm
evryone who voted on neo is on my list...last game i was mafia with pat and one of the 1st things he said was: kill neo because he is to good for us

look what hapend now

haha patman wants to be a good guy but he still gets stuck being the bad guy. not 100% sure though
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 04:27:43 pm
Simply put, Brandon, last round you were MUCH more adamant about fishing out the Mafiosos. This round you seem somewhat reserved, could be a fluke though.

Also LadyM is right, I'll spin you all for a loop and beat you over the head with an aluminum bat if I have to. Since I seem to be less restrained this round (See: I don't have a boss) I'm going to do as much damage as possible in hopes that when the dust clears I will be able to easily weed out the last of the troublemakers and win the day. Victory by any means necessary.

The game is simple, prove to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a Townie and I won't kill you. Now with that out of the way, I would be quite happy to have some protection tonight, although I think there is a good chance the Mafia will overlook me because they will think that I'm doing enough damage on my own; why would they want to kill me if I'm adamantly preaching to kill everyone regardless of affiliation? If anything the Mafia will kill a high profile person or they will kill an oddball who has not been doing anything; I would go for the latter at the time of this statement because it builds confusion. Such is the mindset of the Mafia, create confusion and the Townies will drop like dominoes.

You're going to have to trust me on this one, I helped make most of their strategies.


Victory by any means necessary is not a good pocily to have, esciplsily when all your friends lay dead.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 04:29:41 pm
Luminar: He also presented noexistane evidence againest Brandon and neoadept.

Of course it's nonexistant evidence, there IS no evidence early on in the game, only suspicion.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 04:35:32 pm
haha patman wants to be a good guy but he still gets stuck being the bad guy. not 100% sure though

That's something I'll have to deal with, right now my only concern is eliminating people who pose a threat. Loss of life on either side is of no consequence to me, I sure would have made a good hacker.

*shrug*

But yeah, as far as the immediate future goes; LadyM is going to be a head shorter tomorrow if we want to pull this thing out of the fire any time soon.


As for you Clock, you can't make an omelet without cracking a few skulls. The deal is this: if I know you're a Townie then I'll remove my kill order; until I know you're a 'good guy' then you're on the chopping block.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 04:36:18 pm
OK question. What is wrong with us all becoming hackers? Then we would all win right?


We would be slave to the real hacker.

I still do not get it. A win is a win is it not? Else what stops a hacker form betraying the 1337 hacker?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 04:37:12 pm
Luminar: He also presented noexistane evidence againest Brandon and neoadept.

Of course it's nonexistant evidence, there IS no evidence early on in the game, only suspicion.

Looking through your posts your story checks out as you called for reason, Trolls probaley won't do that, removing from list.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 06, 2008, 04:37:56 pm
i also think brandon and yokto are maffia...because who they voted for...

if your a good guy you know why (that rymes)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 04:40:34 pm
Even the mafia knows now. Discretion wasn't used in accusing me when I voted for Helloworld so now it isn't information specific to the townies.

Everyone knows.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 04:43:01 pm
haha patman wants to be a good guy but he still gets stuck being the bad guy. not 100% sure though

That's something I'll have to deal with, right now my only concern is eliminating people who pose a threat. Loss of life on either side is of no consequence to me, I sure would have made a good hacker.

*shrug*

But yeah, as far as the immediate future goes; LadyM is going to be a head shorter tomorrow if we want to pull this thing out of the fire any time soon.


As for you Clock, you can't make an omelet without cracking a few skulls. The deal is this: if I know you're a Townie then I'll remove my kill order; until I know you're a 'good guy' then you're on the chopping block.

You CAN make an omelet without cracking skulls. And how I'm I supposed to prove my innoccene?  There is no way to do that.  We don't need a pysopathic townsperson at this point, so please get rid of that cold, harsh manner of yours please.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 04:47:19 pm
Hahaha... no I think I'll keep going.

I've been dying to play this particular role since we started Mafia and now I have a chance to do it. Onwards and upwards. You've got my list, at least aim for one or two of the targets on it, it'll benefit you in the long run.

And there are ways to prove your innocence, just think a little bit. It's all about making connections.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 04:52:33 pm
Even the mafia knows now. Discretion wasn't used in accusing me when I voted for Helloworld so now it isn't information specific to the townies.

Everyone knows.

Except Clockwork obviously. And Brandon, im beginning to think you aren't troll, but im still not sure. And Clockwork, my "evidence" was who he voted for, and you don't seem to understand that, which is why im suspecting you. Of corse i don't have any evidence, no one does yet. Patman, I'll listen to you.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 04:53:39 pm
Hahaha... no I think I'll keep going.

I've been dying to play this particular role since we started Mafia and now I have a chance to do it. Onwards and upwards. You've got my list, at least aim for one or two of the targets on it, it'll benefit you in the long run.

And there are ways to prove your innocence, just think a little bit. It's all about making connections.

First you demand my loyalty, then you threat to kill me and know you say it is possible to prove my inncocence desplite there being no possible way whatso ever.  You demand then I be your hitman!  Whose side are you on?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 04:58:27 pm
Hahaha... no I think I'll keep going.

I've been dying to play this particular role since we started Mafia and now I have a chance to do it. Onwards and upwards. You've got my list, at least aim for one or two of the targets on it, it'll benefit you in the long run.

And there are ways to prove your innocence, just think a little bit. It's all about making connections.

First you demand my loyalty, then you threat to kill me and know you say it is possible to prove my inncocence desplite there being no possible way whatso ever.  You demand then I be your hitman!  Whose side are you on?

He is saying that if you be loyal to him you'll win, and if you don't want to die you should prove your innocence. He is making sense to me, not perfect sense but Patman has all ways been a couple steps infront of the average forum member, so I'm listening to him.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 05:02:37 pm
Hahaha... no I think I'll keep going.

I've been dying to play this particular role since we started Mafia and now I have a chance to do it. Onwards and upwards. You've got my list, at least aim for one or two of the targets on it, it'll benefit you in the long run.

And there are ways to prove your innocence, just think a little bit. It's all about making connections.

First you demand my loyalty, then you threat to kill me and know you say it is possible to prove my inncocence desplite there being no possible way whatso ever.  You demand then I be your hitman!  Whose side are you on?

He is saying that if you be loyal to him you'll win, and if you don't want to die you should prove your innocence. He is making sense to me, not perfect sense but Patman has all ways been a couple steps infront of the average forum member, so I'm listening to him.

He is flatout Mafia, as for you 789 I see your logic, your off the hook.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 06, 2008, 05:05:08 pm
I love it! I absolutely love it!

Best game thus far, bar none.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 05:07:27 pm
My new list:

Patman33:  He's blood thristy and he threated me if I could not prove my innoccence by voting for people on his list.


Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 05:08:00 pm
I love it! I absolutely love it!

Best game thus far, bar none.

You just say that because you finally got rid of neo.  ;)

Disclaimer: I am not accusing Pat of being Mafia, I just know from past experience he always advocates neoadept's removal.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 05:09:48 pm
Well now that i pretty much see everyones logic I have no idea who I should think is mafia. I hate it when that happens, thats the mafia trick, to get you to trust them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Clockwerk on January 06, 2008, 05:13:11 pm
Well now that i pretty much see everyones logic I have no idea who I should think is mafia. I hate it when that happens, thats the mafia trick, to get you to trust them.

I trust you, your a bit over zealous, but I trust you.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 05:16:15 pm
You two seem to be agreeing with each other on everything.

Though I do think you both have good intentions.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 05:17:01 pm
Hahaha... no I think I'll keep going.

I've been dying to play this particular role since we started Mafia and now I have a chance to do it. Onwards and upwards. You've got my list, at least aim for one or two of the targets on it, it'll benefit you in the long run.

And there are ways to prove your innocence, just think a little bit. It's all about making connections.

Let's see, what role could that be, maybe the lone gunman or hacker? If you aim at a target, don't aim it at me, that would be a mistake. I'm a true BLUE member.

Warning - while you were typing 5 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 06, 2008, 05:21:15 pm
I think what he meant by role was "good guy". He was all ways mafia

I don't get what ovi means when he says not voting will count against you, what will it do?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 06, 2008, 05:41:50 pm
If you miss 3 votes during the game, you will be deleted from the game, its just like mine was. Thats why you have to vote each day phase, it's to eliminate people going idle and mucking up the game.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yokto on January 06, 2008, 06:40:01 pm
So they hanged Neo? And it turned out he was innocent? Bah...

What they will hit next will be interesting. Even if i do not believe there was a major collectives troll voting on Neo.

I will use my cards this night and we will see. Hopefully it will give the answer i seek. If not then i and the rest of might be in a lot of trouble.

Be ware of the forest. One never knows what creatures live there.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 06:56:19 pm
What they will hit next will be ingesting.

...what? They're going to murder our food stores?! NNNNNOOOOOOOO

Ahem. Anyhow, for all we know PatMan33 could be the hacker. Want to know why? Because you don't know.
Unless you're a cop, chief, psychic or a lucky wizard, as a townsman you do not know for sure who ANYONE is. The base state you should start off anyone as is 50/50 - 50% chance of being town, 50% of being mafia. IE, you have no idea. Unless you're an info role and discover something, the townie % should never go below 50%, because you don't know. By the same token, don't increase your suspicion of someone readily and easily. That's the very fundamental thing the mafia try to exploit to get you to hang your comrades.

To me, Pat is still 50/50, because I haven't seen anything suspicion-invoking from him. I have my eye on a few people already, but nothing overwhelming yet.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 06, 2008, 06:59:05 pm
Actually the %s would be 67 townperson and 33 mafia.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 06, 2008, 07:02:09 pm
That's if you know who is who... which I don't. To me, any given person could be mafia, and I can't tell at a glance. Nor will they let me, I have no way of telling trickery and honesty apart when I don't know. Hence, everyone is potentially mafia, and each action either makes me more suspicious or doesn't. I simply go for the ones who have raised my suspicions and then, after analysing it all to make sure i'm not jumping to a conclusion (which I sort of am anyway), I sort of "elevate their threat level" so to speak, and aim to eliminate the most threatening.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 06, 2008, 11:37:13 pm
i also think brandon and yokto are maffia...because who they voted for...

if your a good guy you know why (that rymes)


I think Yokto may be a Me Too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Yokto on January 07, 2008, 05:23:19 am
i also think brandon and yokto are maffia...because who they voted for...

if your a good guy you know why (that rymes)


I think Yokto may be a Me Too.

Look a bit closer on who i voted for and you know why i did it. At least if  you are pure of heart.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: Oviraptor on January 07, 2008, 05:18:44 pm
The forum was down and all conversation was lost. Luckily, I kept a running poll off-site so all of your votes were not lost. ;D

In the morning, as everyone logged into their accounts, it was discovered that Clockwerk's name was no longer clickable! He had been deleted! It was found out that he was a Deacon for the Forum Members.

Day 2
Vote end (max): 1:00 PM EST Tuesday January 8, 2008

Hacker Population: 2

Who should be the next to be banned?

7 who ate 9

Brandonazz

Celdur

Krakow Sam

LadyM

Lualmoba

Luminar

MetallicDragon

Mr. Consideration

Neoteric

Plank of Wood

shadowlord18

The Time Traveller

unlamp

Yokto

Yossitaru

**Remember, if you don't cast a vote, it counts against you**
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 07, 2008, 05:22:40 pm
Huh. We've lost a bit of direct intrigue, it seems. Oh well, I know roughly where my priorities are, at least.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 05:27:23 pm
*SIGH*

Don't kill Brandon yet, morons; he can sit for another night. Kill the Lady!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 07, 2008, 05:27:53 pm
I haven't seen anything from LadyM that evokes my suspicion. What did you have in mind?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 07, 2008, 05:28:16 pm
Eh, I can't chose. I was going to go with Patmans plan but it wont change anything, maybe next round. Brandonazz
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 05:33:19 pm
Haha, I can't tell you that because then it will alert the Mafia to the one thing that all Mafia members overlook in every single game that totally gives them away and I don't want them to adjust to this, not in this game and not in any game in the future.

Night one was a shot in the dark, seems like I missed but now Neo's cognitive ability can't be used by anyone and that comes out as a plus at the end of the day. Things are beginning to come together now and the lights are turning on. My day is going swimmingly and the owls hoot kindly in the springtime.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Brandonazz on January 07, 2008, 05:37:41 pm
I'm alright with Pat's plan if it keeps me alive.  :P

Though at this point it looks like me or him.

Wait a minute, we could remove Pat's cognitive abilities from the game!

Just as he wanted!

Maybe we could do this: if he's a townperson we follow his plan to the letter; if he's mafia, or more likely hacker, then we keep those at the top of the list alive.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 05:39:40 pm
So many accusations of being a hacker... and so many laughs to be had by me.

I decided to change my mind a bit, kill Brandon. I could really care less, we'll just have to kill LadyM tomorrow night. Of course I will never change my vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 07, 2008, 05:42:00 pm
Let's see if I can recap some of the drama... Yokto is bonkers but possibly a Big Dog and Brandon is a Me Too because of their first vote. It could also be reversed. Pat has a list of people who should be voted off starting with me but god knows why, I've done nothing. Pat is suspiciously looking like the 1337 hacker. He tops my list of Trolls along with everyone who voted for Neoadept. Brandon has pretty much labeled himself as a Troll and is being rather quiet about the whole thing. Time Travellor is ... well... interesting.

I think thats the gist of it.  :D

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 07, 2008, 05:46:24 pm
I vote for LadyM.  She seems too determined to figure out who everyone is.  A true Forumgoer would merely vote for random people until they kill a troll, hopefully using small ammounts of information, (eg voting for an Ent, hint hint.).
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 07, 2008, 05:49:21 pm
I vote for LadyM.  She seems too determined to figure out who everyone is.  A true Forumgoer would merely vote for random people until they kill a troll, hopefully using small ammounts of information, (eg voting for an Ent, hint hint.).

What? o_O"" Random panicky attacking everyone is the very BANE of the townsfolk! It's what the mafia try to do when they're not capable of herding them towards a specific voting pattern - just induce panic, take cover and hope they hit each other.

Also, doesn't everyone WANT to know who the next guy is? I'd say that's pretty flimsy as evidence.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: LadyM on January 07, 2008, 05:58:32 pm
I vote for LadyM.  She seems too determined to figure out who everyone is.  A true Forumgoer would merely vote for random people until they kill a troll, hopefully using small ammounts of information, (eg voting for an Ent, hint hint.).

How do you know? You missed the last game and died the first day on the first one so you have no experience yet in which to make your accusation. If I'm not voting for an Ent, what does that tell you? Answer: I know who the Ent is.

Quote
Time Travellor is ... well... interesting clueless.
fixed
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Lualmoba on January 07, 2008, 06:21:47 pm
I might as well get my vote in now. I vote for 7 who ate 9.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 06:55:50 pm
HAH!

I've got it! I've got it! That's why he changed so quickly! He did it to get at me!

VOTE CHANGED!

789! It's all in the numbers!

SEVEN EIGHT NINE!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Neoteric on January 07, 2008, 07:01:29 pm
Voting for Brandonazz.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 07:03:39 pm
No you fool! I figured it out! Brandon must survive the night! The reason is so far beyond your comprehension but I know... oh God do I know!

He will live and the other will die and then we'll all be free!!! FREE!

F-R-E-E can you people follow me?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Luminar on January 07, 2008, 07:06:01 pm
Follow you? You're being more transparent than thin air. XD
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 07:11:44 pm
I'm here but I'm not.

Mafia, Townie, it doesn't matter because you all must LISTEN! Brandon is the key to this sticky situation, he'll survive the night and enable another chain of events to happen which will allow both sides to forget their differences. Don't make me do my cheer again, I'll so do it.

Vote for me if you have to, I don't care. Make sure that fool survives the night and sees the light of day.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 07, 2008, 07:51:44 pm
I change my vote to Lady M
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 07, 2008, 08:00:21 pm
I'm here but I'm not.

Mafia, Townie, it doesn't matter because you all must LISTEN! Brandon is the key to this sticky situation, he'll survive the night and enable another chain of events to happen which will allow both sides to forget their differences. Don't make me do my cheer again, I'll so do it.

Vote for me if you have to, I don't care. Make sure that fool survives the night and sees the light of day.

"Make both sides forget their differences," as if they were both on the same side? Maybe, the hacker side?
I think PatMAN has either gone crazy or been hax'd. Therefore I vote Brandonazz, to spite pat.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 07, 2008, 08:01:37 pm
I'm here but I'm not.

Mafia, Townie, it doesn't matter because you all must LISTEN! Brandon is the key to this sticky situation, he'll survive the night and enable another chain of events to happen which will allow both sides to forget their differences. Don't make me do my cheer again, I'll so do it.

Vote for me if you have to, I don't care. Make sure that fool survives the night and sees the light of day.

"Make both sides forget their differences," as if they were both on the same side? Maybe, the hacker side?
I think PatMAN has either gone crazy or been hax'd. Therefore I vote Brandonazz.

Pat man is confusing me, he is sending us weird hints in the chat room...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 07, 2008, 08:16:58 pm
"Make both sides forget their differences," as if they were both on the same side? Maybe, the hacker side?
I think PatMAN has either gone crazy or been hax'd. Therefore I vote Brandonazz, to spite pat.

HAH! You are a stupid ignorant FOOL! All of my votes are yours!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 07:21:55 am
pat dont go screeming around like you saw the light...you have to come with arguments
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 07:40:50 am
Oh shut up, I do have an argument. The problem is that you bunch are too paranoid to listen to me, it happens every round. At the end of the game I'll just sit back and say I told you so, just like the last game and just like the game before that and so on.

Besides it's not my fault if you missed the massive chat we all had last night in Yaplet.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 08, 2008, 07:51:40 am
Pat, as far as I can remember, you've been mafia in every game we've played on this forum, so I don't see how your experience of the game would apply well to being a townie, if that is in fact what you are.

In fact, you're using very Mafiaesque tactics in who you choose to vote off, starting with the smartest people etc.

Note: This is not me implicating Pat as a troll, its me saying that Pat is acting like a mafia regardless of his actual affiliation.

Also, having massive chats in gabbly is totally against the rules, as I'm sure everyone knows.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 07:54:43 am
you say that you have arguments but you do not state them...if you really are convinced that you are right then tell them to me and enlighten me...cause this wont help you at all
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 07:59:03 am
Does it really matter what I say? Tell me that I wasn't already near the top of your suspect list from day one 'just because'.

 :-\

And you wonder why I'm trying something different? The results are still  coming out the same anyway, it doesn't matter what I do.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 08, 2008, 08:02:51 am
*SIGH*

Don't kill Brandon yet, morons; he can sit for another night. Kill the Lady!

Do you have any evidence this time?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 08:42:08 am
WOW!

Hey I feel a lot better all of the sudden; I've been in an odd funk the last few days. It happens to me every now and again, I'm sure some of you have experienced this with me before. Anyway sorry if I caused you any trouble, let's keep rolling forward! :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 1
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 08:47:16 am
well thats good and all but your just saying what you want but i have no reason to... but i will still vote for lual since i know he is evil...vote lual people! lual for president! i mean...he should be banned!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 08, 2008, 09:52:33 am
Patman's brief spout of insanity confused me.

Is he trying to accuse LadyM, Brandon or 789?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Oviraptor on January 08, 2008, 10:06:42 am
Although PatMan33 went crazy, and tried to get people to not ban Brandonazz, the majority still thought he should be the one banned. As it turns out, he was the 1337 Hacker! The forum breathed a sigh of relief knowing that the 1337 Hacker was no longer on the loose.

Night 2
Night end (max): 10:00 AM EST Wednesday January 9, 2008

If you have powers you want to use, now would be the time to send them. The Trolls will now convene and decide who to delete during the night.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 10:08:02 am
BAM!

I told you! But you didn't listen and you wasted a kill. Still, I was right and so I'm happy.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:08:41 am
ONOZ Patman is a hacker!

How is killing the 3rd faction a waste of votes?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 10:10:10 am
Because I had a way to get rid of the third faction without the need of a lynching! Agh, how obvious do I have to be? :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:12:42 am
Why, because you wanted the trolls to prove that you were right, without you having to waste a vote killing innocent townsfolk?

BURN THE TROLL!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 10:13:00 am
Holy crap! We got the 1337 hacker!!!  :o

Good work Pat, craziness for the win!! Woo!! I hope the nanny will undo the damage the hacker has done.

Now stop trying to get people to vote me and lets get someone else.  :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 08, 2008, 10:23:42 am
Can the hacked 'inherit' the 1337 Hacker's posistion like the Mafia's boss?

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Oviraptor on January 08, 2008, 10:26:24 am
No, the hacked remain hacked, but they can't spread hackings like the 1337 Hacker can.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:27:34 am
So if the only surviving player is hacked, the hackers win?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 10:30:10 am
Since the big fish is gone there is only one small fish left.

Now this remaining person who has been hacked has most likely been taken from the Mafia which is why my dear LadyM wishes for them to be returned to their normal state. Find this hacked person and kill them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Oviraptor on January 08, 2008, 10:31:52 am
So if the only surviving player is hacked, the hackers win?

If the two people remaining are a forum member and the hacker, the hacker wins, if it's a troll, the trolls win. (Unless the forum member is the Kung-Fu Master).
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:36:05 am
The trolls are generaly going to be low profile, while high profile players acusing everyone with thier slightest suspicion are generaly forum users. So thus it's very unlikely LadyM, Mr Consideration, Patman and I are trolls.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 10:48:14 am
LadyM is at the top of my list, someone needs to deal with her NOW. You and Balth are next.

*crazy eye*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:50:34 am
May I remind you whose hair is full of surfers?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 10:53:41 am
A stroke of luck for all of us... unfortunate that it's a benefit to the mafia too. Oh well... now we have to just find that lone hacker and fix/ban/delete as neccecary.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 10:55:45 am
It was no stroke of luck...

There is reason to believe that this last hacker is in fact a mafia member. I will bet the entire estate that if LadyM is a Mafioso than this hacked person is also Mafia and needs to be killed instead of cured. I for one will not cure this person.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 10:56:22 am
I just want all the hackers gone and the troll gone.

Actually Pat, you're being very vocal this game, not your usual style of playing. You're drawing alot of attention to yourself. I could care less if the trolls have their person back however I now suspect that you might have been hacked.

Maybe I'm on your list because you are the leading the trolls, you know I'm not one and am a threat to you. That's okay, you're still on my list too and we'll see how this all plays out and who the members will trust the most.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 10:57:50 am
Vote out the crazy Patmad33.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 11:02:11 am
LadyM your tactics are only half decent without your other half. ;)

I'll be as obvious as I can be, the reason why I had a sure-fire method for killing Brandon and the reason why I can not be a hacker are related. By killing me you will remove any chance of regaining your precious hacked mafia member.

Plank has also made things quite clear, LadyM will be burned at the stake which will be made from Plank. And we will all sit in a circle around them and sing as they die.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 11:03:44 am
Plank has also made things quite clear, LadyM will be burned at the stake which will be made from Plank. And we will all sit in a circle around them and sing as they die.

If only Gec made a picture of that.  ;)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 11:04:08 am
It can be commissioned, I will invite him to the burning.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 11:06:26 am
So your saying that your the Nanny? Interesting thought.

You should take your time before traveling down that road of accusations.

Another thought, why isn't Pat pressing to get Krakow Sam out? He said he doesn't trust him either yet he is ignoring him. Are they troll buddies?

I shall not burn tomorrow, it's not in the cards.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 11:06:59 am
So it's offcial, LadyM will be burned while tied to me, and Gec will draw a picture of it on Patman's skin usin a pencil made of Mr Consideration's finger.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 08, 2008, 11:10:29 am
Patman might well be Mafia trying to win our trust by slaying a Hacker. This benefits the Mafia as much as us. Diversion if a Mafia tactic.

But I personally don't really buy into it. I'll see how it pans out...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 11:13:58 am
Pat will say anything and spin a great story and cause confusion for his cause. If you're not sure then vote for one of the others who voted for Neoadept, that was an organized vote. Also look at the fact that Pat never changes a vote and yet he did last night, why? and who else voted for 7 who ate 9?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 11:16:11 am
Doing nothing is the greatest sin of all, Balth.

Let's consult the list! Well shoot, according to the list I will kill Naoadept, LadyM, Krakow Sam, and Brandonazz in that order. Seems like two are already gone and you're next in the lineup. Besides... I've already been working the Krakow Sam side of the case and I can't do anything with him right now. Once I've rid this world of your slimy presence though I'll be able to exact my will upon Krakow Sam.

The votes were changed in a bid to increase efficiency, but alas it was not meant to happen. If only people learned from their mistakes and listened to me... oh how the tables would turn in their favor. We could have been rid of you and the hacker last night, Lady, but instead you decide to throw dirt in my face and insult my name. I am throwing the dirt right back at you, how does it taste? Delicious isn't it?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 11:18:06 am
Pat seems to just intend to be deliberatley confusing and misdirecting as possible. I can't really be bothered to work out his thrashing and changing when i've got more solid suspicions to act on.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 11:21:17 am
Such is the tragic nature of my role in these games... I know what I know based on patterns that I've seen and experiences that I've had. And so most of you can only catch a glimpse of what I am saying because you were only a part of what I know in a limited capacity. Perhaps if you were all combined into one you would be able to see what I see.

This is why trust is in order, trust that when I say something it is true. Because it is, and this I know.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 11:23:55 am
Even if Patman is not a troll he has had one innocent banned and he could have just as easily banned another regular, it's sheer luck he banned the 1337 hacker. He is a danger to the members as well as the trolls, and thus if he goes, we can continue to persue the trolls without problems.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 11:28:22 am
But Pat, you didn't stick to your list... you changed your vote which is not like you. Highly suspicious to me.

Plus, your acting like a crazy man trying to make people eat dirt. Your theory is severely flawed and I'll agree with Luminar that you are deliberately being confusing, too bad I'm not going to fall for it. You're just having way too much fun spinning the heads of the other people. You want me gone because your afraid I'll be too logical in comparison.

You know how a magician does his trick? He makes a distraction in one spot while he does his switch in another. You're making a big distraction my way while something sneaky is going on.

You all realize that Brandon was going to be banned anyway and Pat jumped on at the last minute with his "kill Brandon" talk. Even then, he didn't vote for Brandon, he changed to 789.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 12:38:09 pm
I'm not even going to bother defending myself because you two are doing an absolutely horrid job at protecting your identities.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 12:44:14 pm
So when you lynch me and you find that I am a mere Palooka, who will look like a complete ass?

If LadyM hangs tommorow, we will know she is innocent, and that you have clearly gone crazy with paranioa and suspision, you are doing EXACTLY what the mafia wants you to do, voting off those that they know are clearly innocent.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 12:49:53 pm
You think I'm scared of looking like an ass? HAH! Welcome to the forum, newbie.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 12:53:27 pm
I'm afraid Patman that you are following the idea that simply saying that people should vote for LadyM that people will. The people that are disagreeing with you way outnumber you.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 12:54:51 pm
you know...patman seems to be alone on this...no one else is, like...erm...suporting his idea`s

i dont know if i should believe him yet but that is one thing you have to consider...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 12:56:04 pm
No, we do not believe that Laul is mafia.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 01:11:36 pm
Nobody ever supports my ideas until they're dead and see the results. So skip the disappointment and do it right the first time, at the very least I'd like to be alive when people start putting my plans into action instead of having to watch my team put them into use after  I'm out of the game.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 08, 2008, 01:13:35 pm
Right.... Your plan of lynching all of the smart people?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 01:16:54 pm
Sure, if that's what you think is going on.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 01:23:02 pm
well pat post your freaking idea 1st...all you have been doing is shouting around how good you are and that we should let brandon live...for no reason

just...explain why you say it

and lual IS a troll plank! you will find out soon enough!

and if i die at any time promise me you will kill lual next!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 01:24:33 pm
I have posted it, you guys aren't paying attention.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 01:30:49 pm
could you post a link to it then?  ::)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 01:39:04 pm
The Preface I (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg468647#msg468647)
The Preface II (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg468903#msg468903)
The Meat (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469172#msg469172)
The Bait (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469242#msg469242)
Bonus Footage!!! (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469293#msg469293)
The Switch (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469509#msg469509)
The Potatoes (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469594#msg469594)
The Folly of Man (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469733#msg469733)
The Answer (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=11121.msg469985#msg469985)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 01:55:22 pm
so what your saying...is that we should kill all the leaders because they make the townie`s win...yeah thats logic

also the most confusing thing was when you blamed 789 for...whatever

explain that please...

(and i love the bonus footage :D )
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 02:15:19 pm
That was to cause confusion. I think that's terribly obvious by this point in time.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 02:32:48 pm
well i thought that since you never gave me a straight awnser...but why?it wont change anything i think...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 02:44:59 pm
You think. ;)

I  think it will.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 02:47:21 pm
I have a question, Pat.
If you are innocent (and therefore should not be banned/erased), then why are you using misdirection and confusion? Typically townsfolk should play it straight as they have enough lies from the mafia to sift through - acting in a deliberatley confusing and bizarre manner is only going to make the townsfolk suspicious of you and make the mafia pick other targets to night-kill since you're doing a good enough job of sowing confusion and suspicion that you practically become an asset to them.

Going over this, this leaves a few possibilities in my mind:
- You're townsfolk, and employing a very risky strategy that doesn't lend itself well to townsfolk play
- You're the town traitor and deliberatley sowing confusion and trying to get the mafia's attention
- You're mafia and being confusing out in the open as a sort of double-bluff (a "He couldnt possibly be that dumb" kind of deal)

So answer me straight - why take the loud, public confusing approach? What's your motive?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 08, 2008, 02:58:30 pm
I think he's stuck in the mafia mind set. I just realized something, when pat started acting like this we stopped accusing people and focussed all attention of him. We need to start ignoring his post and get back on track, who looks suspicious? Also, the only reason he voted on me was for confusion, he told me that himself.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 03:08:57 pm
i tell you lual is a troll! vote for him the next day and you will see that i am right!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 03:14:26 pm
Quote
- You're the town traitor and deliberately sowing confusion and trying to get the mafias attention
- You're mafia and being confusing out in the open as a sort of double-bluff (a "He couldn't possibly be that dumb" kind of deal)

These two seem the most likely to me. The town traitor came to mind before I read your post. A good reason to be doing this.
I think everyone needs to look over the voting strategy so far and base their next vote on information they receive and listen to others and read carefully in the posts. Sometimes clues are left for those who take the time to read it well.

No, we do not believe that Lual is mafia.
i tell you lual is a troll! vote for him the next day and you will see that i am right!
I believe you and I think Celdur might be able to get that kind of information.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 03:16:35 pm
i tell you lual is a troll! vote for him the next day and you will see that i am right!

What's your reasoning/backup? You can't just throw accusations around without looking a bit shonky.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 03:17:44 pm
people have poweres during the night...i can even tell you his profession if you like...(i can do that right? since i could be lying and all that)

EDIT: i also have a very small hunch that unlamp is a troll to...but im really really not sure...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 03:45:38 pm
That's Mafia talk, 789. Ignoring me would be a great thing to do if you want to kill the WRONG people.

I am using a different strategy, mainly to confuse the Mafia. Sadly it involves everyone becoming confused but normally the Mafia is in charge of spreading confusion. I've decided to strip them of that position, in this game the Townsfolk are confused (But they are confused in every game) and now the Mafia is also confused because they have lost their most powerful weapon.

It's a beautiful thing, this is why I am telling you all to open your eyes and look!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 08, 2008, 03:48:06 pm
That sounds... traitor-y talk.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 03:48:35 pm
but by telling this wont that stop the mafia confusion >_>

and if you are mafia..then the mafia wont be confused either...

bah this is ...well...confusing!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: LadyM on January 08, 2008, 04:11:00 pm
Then don't listen to him.. listen to me  :)  the voice of reason.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 04:39:05 pm
i don't know what to think of you yet... so i won't trust you either... yet ::)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 08, 2008, 04:40:22 pm
Well, we can only wait until daylight for answers.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 04:43:01 pm
im hoping for something suspected.... but it will probably be something random
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Luminar on January 08, 2008, 04:44:26 pm
I have a gut feeling i'm going to get zapped next. I've been running my mouth, and i'm not really in anyone's suspicions. I'd be a bit of a threat to them at this point.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 05:32:47 pm
Then don't listen to him.. listen to me  :)  the voice of reason.

Hah! Remember those cards I told you she'd play? Eh?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Lualmoba on January 08, 2008, 07:17:07 pm
well pat post your freaking idea 1st...all you have been doing is shouting around how good you are and that we should let brandon live...for no reason

just...explain why you say it

and lual IS a troll plank! you will find out soon enough!

and if i die at any time promise me you will kill lual next!

Why do you keep accusing me? It's obvious that the Mafia messed with me. I was the one that did the investigation. I thought that you got to see who was the one who did each investigation.

I was trying to not bring attention to this, since no one seemed to be paying attention to you, but by doing this, you are making sure that I will get forged again.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 08, 2008, 07:56:15 pm
It sounds like celdur is a mod, I'll vote Laul next round. I have a theroy that pat got hacked. He changed his posting style drastically, I think he is trying to make everyone think he is a crazy townfolk so he will stay till the last round and hackers win.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 08:03:37 pm
I got hacked on day one? You've got rocks for brains, open your ears and LISTEN.

Can you hear the words that are coming out of my mouth?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 08, 2008, 08:06:46 pm
I got hacked on day one? You've got rocks for brains, open your ears and LISTEN.

Can you hear the words that are coming out of my mouth?

Yeah, they aren't coming through that clearly though.


It sounds like Lual investigated Brandon, someone switched Laul and someone else's roles, then Celdur investigated Lual. Lual told me he investigate Brandon one night 1, Celdur, when do you investigate Lual?


PS, I think this is one of the best games ever.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 08, 2008, 08:19:53 pm
Last time I'll say it...

The same reason I had a surefire method of killing Brandon is also the same reason why I am not a hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: Celdur on January 08, 2008, 11:39:11 pm
I got hacked on day one? You've got rocks for brains, open your ears and LISTEN.

It sounds like Lual investigated Brandon, someone switched Laul and someone else's roles, then Celdur investigated Lual. Lual told me he investigate Brandon one night 1, Celdur, when do you investigate Lual?


i believe lual is lying...i know he is

and last night i did
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 2
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 06:17:37 am
Your quote tags are in the wrong place, my quote and 789's quote are jammed into the same box.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 09, 2008, 06:38:28 am
As morning came, the members started logging onto the forum. It was soon apparent that Plank of Wood was missing. When that searched for his profile, it was no longer there. He had been deleted! It was found out that he was a Palooka for the Forum Members. He was the Forum Rat secretly working for the Trolls!

Day 3
Vote end (max): 10:00 AM EST Thursday January 10, 2008

Hacker Population: 1

Who should be the next to be banned?

7 who ate 9

Brandonazz

Celdur

Krakow Sam

LadyM

Lualmoba

Luminar

Mr. Consideration

Neoteric

PatMan33

Person21

shadowlord18

The Time Traveller

unlamp

Yokto

Yossitaru
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 09, 2008, 06:41:00 am
Rhodix votes for Patman33.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 06:41:54 am
Oooo.. the Trolls deleted their own rat.. interesting.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 06:43:39 am
LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 06:47:49 am
Awww Pat.. come on...   :'( this vote is a mistake unless you truly are a troll. Maybe your the only one who picked up on the trail of clues I left and you fear me or maybe your just still in the wrong frame of mind. Things have gotten a little twisty.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 06:48:36 am
Oh my God do you people ever quiet down for one minute? You don't have to defend against every little thing.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 07:24:49 am
You do not have to defend you self from me Pat. Know that you have at least one friend out there. :)

But the trolls are still lurking. Be ware of them. Be careful as you tread in the forest oh caretaker of the woods. Many bad things hide even if your nemesis is gone.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 07:37:48 am
Okay, I'm looking over my spread sheet this morning and these are my theories today.

I think the Trolls are more organized than usual and they may have a good leader. (*glances at Luminar*)
I think they are splitting their votes so it doesn't look like a pattern but are casting enough to join the regular members to help vote off one of them.

Look at the people who voted for Neoadept and Brandon. I think that on the second day they threw most of their votes to Brandon but had a few vote for one of their own to make it look like it wasn't a block vote.

I think Trolls might include Luminar, 7 who ate 9, Krakow Sam, Lualmoba, Metallic Dragon, Person21 and Yossitaru. Also note that Lual and Pat voted the same both days and that on the second vote, Pat changed his vote right after Lual voted. I now think they are the Big Dog/Me too relationship.

I'm undecided about Pat, he might be either side but I wonder if he has been hacked, hence the craziness.

I think Celdur is a regular member and probably has investigation powers. I think Yokto is also a regular member and is still bonkers. ;)
I'd like to hear other theories though before I cast my vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 08:17:38 am
I personally don't believe Yossitaru, Person 21 and MetallicDragon are Trolls. They just don't seem to be influencing things enough, which is what LadyM seem's to be apllying is thier tactics.

However Luminar and 7 who ate 9 are constantly struggling against one another.

I think Yokto and Patman may share a Big Dog/Me Too relationship, but I haven't looked at thier votes to check.

Patman seems eager to implicate Lual, LadyM and 789, who all seem eager to accuse him. This seems like more of a Troll ploy, but I am loathe to throw my low in with Pat; he is being both unbalanced and dangerous...and there is alot of suspicion that he might be a troll. Voting for Patman also carries the risk of being the next target...Troll or no.

And, Pat, what is the deal with Brandondazz?

I'm going to sit this one out, for now.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2008, 08:24:14 am
Ha, given I'm already on Pat's target list I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for Patman33.
The sooner we get rid of him and his dangerous maverik tactics the better. If he turns out to be a troll or the hacked, so much the better.

LadyM, I don't know why you assume I'm a troll just because I voted with other people. I tend to take my cues for who to vote for in the first few rounds from the majority.
All I can do is assure you that I'm not a troll, and incedentally, neither is Yossitaru.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 08:40:59 am
I think the Trolls are more organized than usual and they may have a good leader. (*glances at Luminar*)

This is a little flimsy. This could be applied to any of the more active and well-known forum members. Pat might run an organised mafia, or you. Or Krakow Sam. Or Mr. Con. Just because you think someone is smart, labelling them as an active asset to the other team is a bit of a fallacy. It works for the mafia, but for a townsfolk, eliminating the smart folks first may well have a good chance of crippling your own team. Unless you have another reason to implicate me as a troll, in which case i'd like to hear it.

Right now my suspicion list members are Patman, 789, Yossitaru, Rhodix and LadyM.

Patman: Obvious, really. He's out in the open drawing a hell of a lot of attention to himself for reasons I can't quite discern.
789: Seems to have been oblivious to a certain member's identity at the time it was an issue. Was part of neoadept's implication and subsequent death.
Yossitaru: Was very quick to implicate neoadept on Day 1. May have been taking an opportunity to make neo look worse than he was.
Rhodix: Has only voted silently with no explanations thus far.
LadyM: Seems to be trying to twist my words every so often.

Though Patman is the most flagrant and obtuse suspect so far, my gut feeling tells me voting him off is a bad idea. In light of that i'm going to place my vote on 7 who ate 9 for his rather oblivious activities in Day 1. I invite you to explain yourself also, 789, if i'm satisfied by your explanation i'll change my vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 09:41:04 am
Luminar seems to have very sound reasoning.

LadyM and Patman both see eager to have the other killed with no real reasons why. I'm not sure who to vote for yet.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 09:58:36 am
Though i can not be with absolute certainty Patman role I do know he is not a treat to us. What ever power he got is ether passive or most likely harmless for all of use.

By the way. Mr hackerman. Why do you not give up? If your not a x-troll then you have nothing to lose. Cleanse your heart and rejoin out ranks.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 10:02:41 am
Well, because I have to vote for someone, I vote for LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 10:12:59 am
I'm not trying to get Pat killed, actually I'm not sure about him. He normally plays quietly.  I'd like to see him stay around longer. I wasn't twisting Luminar's words but this is a very twisty game. I left clues for anyone who wanted to find them but I guess no one picked up on them.

I know who the Ent is, I am pure of heart. I'm going totally by my notes for my theories and looking at voting patterns. Voting for me is a mistake for members. Anyone voting for me should be considered a troll, they know what side I'm on because I am not on theirs. I think Mr Consideration just made my troll list.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 10:29:54 am
At this point in time i'd sooner vote out Patman than LadyM, but my gut feeling isn't on either of those right now. As of now I consider 789 and Yossitaru to be more direct suspects.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 10:57:21 am
You guys realize that those of us who are posting are drawing attention to ourselves while the others, probably trolls are laying back quietly. They don't want attention so keep that in mind when you vote. Would I really be posting so much if I had anything to hide? Noticed that Lual isn't saying much? or Metallic Dragon? or Krakow Sam who is never at a loss for words.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 11:01:49 am
Being quiet i believe is our worst enemy. Try to to feed the trolls however. They may know much but they do not know all. Let you heart and mind guide you. Look more to actions then to empty words.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Person21 on January 09, 2008, 11:03:14 am
I don't think the amount that someone posts in the game is really relevant, I think that allot of people are lurking because they don't want to get caught up in all this irrational paranoia.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 11:07:24 am
Looks like 789 and I are fated to be each other's life line. If he goes down and it turns out he was innocent, I have a feeling I will most likely fall shortly after with troll accusations, and he'll suffer the same fate if I go down. I have no viable way of defending myself, and I have little to make any real good theories off of, kill me if you must, there is probably little I can do to help anymore.

That being said, my vote is going to have to be a throw away, I'd rather have a vote away from the anyone that could possibly be voted off than a mark of no vote.

Blitzonator

As said previously, I have no viable rational behind this vote, but since no one seems to be looking his way, it's my easiest way to watch for at least one further day, without being related to anyone's banning.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2008, 11:07:52 am
You guys realize that those of us who are posting are drawing attention to ourselves while the others, probably trolls are laying back quietly. They don't want attention so keep that in mind when you vote. Would I really be posting so much if I had anything to hide? Noticed that Lual isn't saying much? or Metallic Dragon? or Krakow Sam who is never at a loss for words.

Its because I know that making a lot of noise is hazardous to my health whatever side I may or may not be on. I was pretty quiet in the last game too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 11:11:08 am
Ovi made a update to at the first page to link to all the votes and events after i ask him to. I hope it will help.

Krakow Sam why did you vote for Pat? Do you know something we do not know?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2008, 11:15:00 am
I think everyone is well aware that Pat's antics are playings us straight into the hands of the trolls.
I think he's the hacked member and is acting like a town traitor to make sure the mafia spare him as long as possible, so he has a slim chance of muddling through and getting a win.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 11:20:03 am
But the Mafia already killed off the Traitor, so his gambit wouldn't work.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 11:29:06 am
Oh man, it's so hard being right about these things all the time. It's like... like you know when you're standing in line at the lunch counter and the guy in front of you is totally oblivious to the menu right over his head. But you can see it, you know what's going on... and the poor sap doesn't want to listen to you because he's too pig headed and determined. Then he orders a sub and everyone laughs at him because we're not in Chicago, we're in Philadelphia and they are called hoagies.

Yeah, that's just what it's like.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 11:30:24 am
Watch it Pat, your ego is showing.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 11:31:08 am
Watch it Pat, your ego is showing.
BAM!

I imagine you'll be lynched for that comment.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 11:31:48 am
I don't care anymore, I've already stated that I'm worthless at this point.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 11:32:47 am
You just noticed my ego now?

How slow are you, Yossi? Get with the picture and stop posting just to keep up appearances.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 11:38:37 am
What appearances? I don't think I've ever posted this much in a single day period before. Whatever, I don't really care anymore, citizen, mafia, it just doesn't matter. I get it; I lack the skill to keep up effectively.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 11:39:27 am
That's a shame.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 11:41:27 am
Sorry KS your logic is flawed. If he was a converted forum member then he would have nothing to gain form working with the trolls. It is more likely that the hacker is a former forum (due to there are more forum members to target.) If he would be a X-troll then hacker as good as doomed. (Sorry hacker.) :P

Now i would guess that Patman being a passive troll is about 5,2631578947368421052631578947368% and that is 94,736842105263157894736842105263% of him being a active forum member. I might be a bit off on my math however.

(Made some re-calculations base on info i did not account for before. Troll probability 5,8823529411764705882352941176471% . Forum member probability 94,117647058823529411764705882353%)

Anyone that votes for him is suspicious to me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 01:18:51 pm
@Yokto - Krakow is avoiding your question. I know why you voted like you did.

@Yossi - Your not worthless, you must be worth something to the trolls.

@Pat - Your not right this time, your ordering the wrong sandwich.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 09, 2008, 01:22:31 pm
Is it not the Night Stage now? I'm sure votes are normally counted earlier than this, and I have no idea who gets lynched today.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 01:24:32 pm
@Yokto - Krakow is avoiding your question. I know why you voted like you did. 

So i have noticed ;)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 01:28:13 pm
Is it not the Night Stage now? I'm sure votes are normally counted earlier than this, and I have no idea who gets lynched today.
No, its day phase until tomorrow morning. Voting is still going on.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 01:28:56 pm
ok i am absolutly possitivly convinced that patman is NOT a troll NOR a hacker...he is important to us all ;D

i also believe that luminar is a troll since everyone on his list in not on mine

and again i vote for lual...if you want a troll dead vote for lual!

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 01:40:22 pm
@Yossi - Your not worthless, you must be worth something to the trolls.

You're right, I'm probably worth a day vote where they are almost assured to be safe now.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 01:49:24 pm
Are you saying that your a regular member and not a troll?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 01:52:18 pm
Well damned if that  doesn't sound staged.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 02:00:30 pm
Whatever you believe, that's up to you. Not sure what good would come from my ban for either side anyway.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: shadowlord18 on January 09, 2008, 02:03:50 pm
i vote lady m  she seems to be trowing most people off the fact no one can be sure who is who
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:04:53 pm
Can't say i'm going to throw in my lot with any Patman/LadyM voting.

Also out of interest, do we have any idlers yet?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:06:06 pm
You need to stop sticking in the middle of the issues Luminar. Pick a side or die.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 02:12:53 pm
Shadowlord is now on my Troll list and Pat is now off of it. I trust Celdur and Yokto and I hope they will save me. I'm undecided about Yossitaru but I'm leaning toward him being a regular member now. It's day 3 and we have more clues so its not like we are blind voting Shadow. If you are going to travel down the road of voting for me this time, then make sure you put my name in BLUE. When you see how wrong you are tomorrow, I predict Pat will be the next to die for convincing everyone to vote for me.

My vote is going to Mr. Consideration because he is voting for me and proving himself to be a troll.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:16:06 pm
That kind of logic isn't a good idea for townsfolk. "Hurry! Pick NOW! Don't think, do!" And of course, pick a side OR die isn't really applicable, since there's every chance it can be pick a side AND die. Be my guest if you want to suspect me, I can't really do or say anything that'll stop you. At the end of the day i'm essentially i'm alone among strangers, none of whom can be fully trusted. I'm going to follow my own path and instincts come hell or high water unless someone presents a very good argument, none of which i've seen against either of the supposedly "main suspects" of this round - you and M.

You've flapped, blathered and made loud noises for a point that I really have no clue about. I figure it's just a distraction so i'm going to ignore it and look for bigger targets.
LadyM isn't too overtly suspicious as of yet. Perhaps that's the way she wants it? Be it on my own head if I fall for a ruse like that. And sure, you know who the celebrity is NOW.

Point is my suspicions in both of you aren't high enough to justify throwing my lot in either way and potentially falsely incriminating myself should either of you turn out to be innocent. Have any of you thought of the consequences of your voting beyond accidentally lynching the wrong person? You set yourself up as a target which can be exploited. The more you set yourself up, the more difficult it gets for townsfolk to sift truth from lie since the mafia manipulate everything they can get to make it more and more difficult.

Remember. If you're a townsfolk, THINK. Don't rush. Analyse what you are doing before you do it. Rush-thinking and panicking will basically hand the mafia a free win.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 02:18:01 pm
but pat is not a troll/hacker! he really doesnt have any reason to vote for you though...just because you have modly leadership...

now pat...the townies need leadership to win...and im sure it will be great if we could kill all the troll leaders but...killing all the leaders is not a good thing

please people lets wait for more evidence before killing more innocent people...vote for lual since i know he is a troll...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:19:40 pm
Why do you think Lualmoba is a troll? State your reasoning/evidence.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 02:22:11 pm
the night phase told me...i told you this before...the same way i found out that pat is not a troll (yes i considered him being a traitor but the traitor just died didnt he?)

my role seems pretty obvious now...but still lual is crooked so vote for him

and if the trolls try to lynch me tonight it will only prove me right...

also: ladym...you believe me...prove it by voting for lual if you cant do that...you ARE on my troll list
(thats the only way i can think of right now to see if your troll or not)

EDIT: and luminar your really supicious to me...for some reasons
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:25:24 pm
I knew it!

Luminar and LadyM are in league. Krakow Sam is also Mafia and Yossi was feeding LadyM lines earlier so he's also in. Kill them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 09, 2008, 02:26:33 pm
Patman, look at your post count.

Sorry Ovi.  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 02:28:31 pm
patman you are completely wrong about sam...trust me on that one
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:30:51 pm
I know all about my post count. I'll be passing Sam within the next three weeks.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:33:07 pm
If you were THAT suspicious of me you'd be able to think of a clear-cut reason. It's probably just that i'm out in the open being loud and making perhaps what could be considered something a bit too ballsy for townsfolk to do, if I might toot my own trumpet for a moment. I figure it this way - I could get nightkilled at any time, so i'm going to get out and say what I think, and should suspicions be turned on me and I get lynched, the reveal of my affiliation will vindicate me and my suspicions. Unfortunatley I wish I had something more solid to go on than day phase suspicions like you do, but my powers are somewhat less useful.

If you really, really suspect me that much then go ahead and use your power to clear me off your list. I'm suspecting I might get nightkilled soon though, so I would ask that you target someone else. I realise that sounds a lot like "Don't investigate me! I don't want you to find out!", but the most I can do is assure you my strategy is for you to continue the process of elimination on targets who are not at risk of being blammed anytime soon.

Since you were gracious enough to venture your reason for suspecting Lual, i'll venture my own suspicons on 789. Remember that you are not me, and thus you see it in a different light. Take it all with a grain of salt and think about what YOU think before you make any judgements.

During the first round where Yokto's risky gambit basically caused quite a few people to vote for him, 789 seemed to remain completley oblivious to the entire situation. If he'd known what Yokto was doing, he would have at least acknowledged either Yokto's plan with either assurance that he knows what Yokto was doing, or a high degree of suspicion for voting for HW. Instead he just seemed to fail to notice the whole issue, which makes me think he didn't know who HW was and thus saw nothing out of the ordinary with the entire situation. And there's only one reason why he wouldn't know HW, right?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:34:52 pm
Blah blah blah all I see is a big ugly wall of text.

Say what you really want to say or stop wasting your time.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:36:15 pm
I did. I'm speaking quite frankly, unlike your crazed flapping and foaming.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:39:25 pm
Of course you would think my words have no value.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 02:41:20 pm
They probably do, but i'm not going to sit and sift through them when you could be speaking in far simpler and more direct terms than you are now, and not changing your mind every two seconds. Point is I can't make anything of your posts at all because they're so inconsistent and.. well, daft that i'm suspicious they're tailored to make me notice them before anything else.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 02:42:31 pm
Blah blah blah... you totally get it and that's why it hurts you so badly.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 02:48:46 pm
Celdur do you think that patmans power could help us? That our ranks even could grow thanks to him? Be honest.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 02:53:05 pm
Yossi was feeding LadyM lines earlier so he's also in. Kill them.

If others are making links like this, then I will offer myself up for M's defense. I may not have anything to offer, but she potentially does.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 02:56:47 pm
During the first round where Yokto's risky gambit basically caused quite a few people to vote for him, 789 seemed to remain completley oblivious to the entire situation. If he'd known what Yokto was doing, he would have at least acknowledged either Yokto's plan with either assurance that he knows what Yokto was doing, or a high degree of suspicion for voting for HW. Instead he just seemed to fail to notice the whole issue, which makes me think he didn't know who HW was and thus saw nothing out of the ordinary with the entire situation. And there's only one reason why he wouldn't know HW, right?

There was not risk to it. Odds where on my side. The Pure of heart knows what sleep in the woods. Trolls live in the shadows and under bridges. But we walk on the bridge so we must tread carefully. Do you eat Mushrooms to?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 03:18:57 pm
Yossi was feeding LadyM lines earlier so he's also in. Kill them.
If others are making links like this, then I will offer myself up for M's defense. I may not have anything to offer, but she potentially does.
You can help by changing your vote to help save me. Yokto needs to vote too.

As far as Luminar, remember that he knows this game like the back of his hand. If you investigate him then he'll always show up as innocent because thats what the Godfather role does. He's going to word and play this game to the hilt. I think he's the master mind behind the trolls.

Pat, please change your vote and trust me. Have I ever lied to you?

~she who is pure of heart~
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 03:31:37 pm
Ok, here's what I'll do, I'm going to wait until the latest I can tomorrow morning, to see if I can draw the tie if it is falling at the point where I can block a kill made for M or Pat, neither of you wholly trust me, as I have nothing concrete on either of you, but I will make a block for either of you. Anyone else is unfortunately out of luck for this kind of support from me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 03:36:02 pm
Well Yossitaru i hope your words are true. And is right of you to not trust them 100%

like i said. there is just a 94% chance or so that pat is not a troll. But even if he is a troll then he would be a pretty harmless one. (Power wise)

At least that is what i believe.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 03:38:51 pm
As far as Luminar, remember that he knows this game like the back of his hand. If you investigate him then he'll always show up as innocent because thats what the Godfather role does. He's going to word and play this game to the hilt. I think he's the master mind behind the trolls.

Another logical fallacy.
"If A is good at the game, A must be role B. Therefore, lynch A."

I don't heavily suspect you as of this time, but you're doing yourself no favors with logical fallacies and twists and turns that'd make Houdini blush.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 03:43:57 pm
Thank you Yossi, I trust you more than you think.  :)
Luminar, you said if you were investigated that you would be found innocent. I'm just reminding them that the Boss always shows as innocent. Whether its you or not. Simple logic not a fallacy.


*vote Mr Consideration - persuade*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 03:52:22 pm
That means absolutley any innocent can potentially be implicated, sowing further paranoia into the mix.

However, I ask you this; look at my first vote. If I was the Boss, how would I realise what Yokto's plan is, and why it's dangerous, and attempt to overturn it rather than exploit it? The Boss doesn't know who the celebrity is - he may appear innocent, but he's still every bit the demon as the rest of them. That means he isn't privy to certain information. Also, I wouldn't be suspicious of 789 for remaining oblivious to the situation, either.

Of course, if you truly want to suspect or implicate me as being one thing or another, no insistence or explanation on my part is going to allay your fear. The only thing that could would be for a cop and a bus driver to target me on the same night, which would remove any power of innocence and cause me to appear as the boss if I truly was one. This'd take a fair bit of luck or co-ordination though, and like I said i'm probably not long off being zapped, so investigations would likley benefit the townsfolk placed on those who are going to last the game.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 03:54:18 pm
@yokto: well yokto...yes...unless he gets rondom roles assinged...meaning he is a troll after all
what i got out of him seems to be super usefull...

@ladym: ladym your really doing what pat said arnt you...puting up the female mod face...pure at hearth and all that...
i know you are pure of hearth but in this game you just act difrent...
you prove your not a troll by stating facts...not by being goody two shoes

@7 who ate 9 (seriously 789 is confusing me you lazy bums): i believe you are no a troll...but i seem to be the only one
i hope you wont die yet...

@patman: hey pat...cool down man >_< your really going nuts and if i didnt know better i would blame you for being a troll right now

@luminar: you should be investigated...

@the rest: hi all  ;D >_>
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 03:57:48 pm
@luminar: you should be investigated...

I realise I may have made myself more than a bit suspicious in my insistence to investigate others. This was intentional, can't make a few omelettes without breaking an egg or whatever the saying is. If I die and my comrades go on to win, I still win with them by proxy. So i'm going to do what I can even if it means dying to do it. -salutes-

This all said, investigate me if you feel i'm the best use of your powers at the current time. Do what you can for your team.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 04:05:16 pm
Your funny Luminar! Do you realize how funny you are? Really funny. :D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:17:19 pm
Hi Celdur!

*Waves*

Check your car before you start it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:21:06 pm
silly patman...you can only be banned or deleted

car explosions wont work! ;)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:23:53 pm
Than why the hell have I been trying to kill people?

I think I need to have a sit down.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:25:10 pm
just take a cup of coffee and relax...the cops will be here soon
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 09, 2008, 04:28:18 pm
Well shoot... I can't decide. It kinda sucks being at school all day and having to catch up on 3-5 pages of arguments. LadyM seems to be talking very sensibly, although I believe she is playing the "Honest do-gooder" card too much...

And Pat is just crazy, yet you all seem so eager to label him as "Just crazy" and not actually a troll. Maybe he is just playing us all?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:29:51 pm
vote lual '08!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:30:25 pm
Yeah I'm playing you all for fools... although some of you aren't fools and some of you are unbelievably foolish and it's making my job harder. Anyone have some Advil?

*Blatant advertisement for the Wyeth corporation; send me free stuff*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2008, 04:38:04 pm
Oh, for god's sake. Pat is the hacked member and he's trying to take as many innocents with him before he inevitably loses.

To be honest its getting less and less fun to play this game thanks to his incessant tirade of agressive and totally baseless accusations at absolutely anyone. Every time someone asks him for reasoning he just responds with assinine threats and petty namecalling, accusing "you people" of not paying attention.
Frankly, who the hell would want to pay attention to meaningless post after meaningless post?

Of course, now I'm probably at the top of Pat's enemies list. But I don't give a damn, because he doesn't hold any real power at all, having alienated almost everyone who would have been inclined to listen to him thanks to his totally baffling behavior.

Hit me with everything you've got Pat.  :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:38:54 pm
No, you're a towel.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 04:39:22 pm
Stilly patman. You like the taste of caviar? Or How is Brandon? Why is Brandon? Can i play with you? I have a toy box!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:41:16 pm
Oh also Sam is trying to do what I do but lacks the finesse. The list is still correct, you guys know what to do.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:44:10 pm
hmm
patman may be the hacker...if i investigate him again that means i would get a difrent role than last night right? since it was rondom...i believe we should do that...

i dont know though...


and yes pat...we know what to do! vote LUAL damnit...LUAL! he is certain! dont go guessing around! L.U.A.L...Lives Under A Lie! i just made that up >_>
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 04:45:46 pm
Frankly, who the hell would want to pay attention to meaningless post after meaningless post?

THE CAKE IS A LIE HUR HUR HUR HU- *gets killed by a flying weighted companion cube roundhouse kicked at him by chuck norris who was also in the process of taking all my base*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Person21 on January 09, 2008, 04:48:15 pm
PatMan33, I do not honestly believe that he is a troll, in fact, I'm almost certain he isn't.

But I have no idea who is mafia, and he seems to be the source of all this insane paranoia, and maybe with him gone, we can organize ourselves!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:51:01 pm
PatMan33, I do not honestly believe that he is a troll, in fact, I'm almost certain he isn't.

But I have no idea who is mafia, and he seems to be the source of all this insane paranoia, and maybe with him gone, we can organize ourselves!

god damn 21! lual! sigh...why is everyone saying they believe me but no one is voting for lual
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 04:51:39 pm
There we go, 21 would be the missing member of the crew.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Person21 on January 09, 2008, 04:54:16 pm
PatMan33, I do not honestly believe that he is a troll, in fact, I'm almost certain he isn't.

But I have no idea who is mafia, and he seems to be the source of all this insane paranoia, and maybe with him gone, we can organize ourselves!

god damn 21! lual! sigh...why is everyone saying they believe me but no one is voting for lual

Did I miss something important in the many pages of mindless ramblings?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2008, 04:56:09 pm
Frankly, who the hell would want to pay attention to meaningless post after meaningless post?

THE CAKE IS A LIE HUR HUR HUR HU- *gets killed by a flying weighted companion cube roundhouse kicked at him by chuck norris who was also in the process of taking all my base*

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/sanity.png)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 04:57:14 pm
well...i cant really prove it..but a investigation of mine proved that lual is a troll...

what i want to add is that i am completely alone on this asumption...while the rest blames pat or m...and a loner faction cant be a mafia faction...i hope you believe me
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 04:59:35 pm
god damn 21! lual! sigh...why is everyone saying they believe me but no one is voting for lual

You know what, I think i'll go ahead and humour you, changing my vote to Lual.. Doubt it'll make a difference this round but i'll vote next round if you are. Not like anyone else is voting 789 right now.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 05:01:43 pm
yes luminar! you gained a bit of my trust...although your right about making a difference...i don't think anyone will join my bandwagon of justice  :-\
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 09, 2008, 05:04:36 pm
I will vote then the time is right.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Person21 on January 09, 2008, 05:04:45 pm
You have no real reason to lie about being an investigator, so I change my vote to Lual
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 05:05:23 pm
woohoo! if this keeps going on like this i might actualy get lynched tonight  ;D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 09, 2008, 05:12:35 pm
You guys realize that those of us who are posting are drawing attention to ourselves while the others, probably trolls are laying back quietly. They don't want attention so keep that in mind when you vote. Would I really be posting so much if I had anything to hide? Noticed that Lual isn't saying much? or Metallic Dragon? or Krakow Sam who is never at a loss for words.

Please don't say that, school just started over here and i don't want to be killed because im not talking. And people seam to suspect Yossitaru, so I'll vote for him
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 05:14:44 pm

Please don't say that, school just started over here and i don't want to be killed because im not talking. And people seam to suspect lual, so I'll vote for him

fixed
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 05:18:20 pm
yes luminar! you gained a bit of my trust

Don't trust anyone so readily just because they agreed with you. That can be exploited.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 09, 2008, 05:18:32 pm
Actually, i might change to Lual.  Because he has more votes, if i vote for Yoss it wont matter. Laul I need to leave now, i wont post for a while.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Neoteric on January 09, 2008, 05:19:09 pm
I trust Celdur. I'm going to vote for Lual.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 09, 2008, 05:20:58 pm
well it seems i finaly done something useful  ;D

...i think i need protection >_>
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Lualmoba on January 09, 2008, 06:22:09 pm
Just so people know, Celdur never actually investigated me. He's using my own investigation to blame me of being Mafia.

LadyM, I wasn't talking earlier because I wasn't even here. I always get home from school at around 6 PM.

Edit: I think I will vote for LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 06:44:07 pm
We'll find out soon enough, Lual. If you're innocent, expect to be avenged. If not... well, we'll all have one less problem on our hands.

Isn't the switch to night rather overdue at this point, at any rate? It says 10AM... unless he meant PM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 09, 2008, 07:10:36 pm
Ten AM Thursday, EST, which is still roughly 12 hours away.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 07:11:12 pm
How bizarre... why the extended phase?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 09, 2008, 07:11:48 pm
It's not... I set it for 24 hours.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 09, 2008, 07:13:35 pm
Huh, i'm just impatient then. XD
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 07:14:16 pm
Hm... 24 hours is seeming a little too long. The game feels like it's going very slow; I mean I'm getting worn out trying to think up enough material to span the long information drought.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 09, 2008, 07:16:36 pm
If it wasn't 24 hours then people with school would have to skip at least half of some of the phases. So lets keep it like this for at least until the weekend maybe?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 07:17:01 pm
Weren't the other games on a twelve hour rotation? It seems like they went a lot quicker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 09, 2008, 07:25:11 pm
No day phase was around 24 hrs and I shortened it some as it went on but it has to go around time we sleep. Plus the forum down time messed things up too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 09, 2008, 07:48:39 pm
I just can't accept your accusations against Lual without some real evidence. How do we know you aren't just pulling us for a loop?
Additionally, LadyM just seems pretty helpful so far, even without any real evidence for or against her.

Patman, however, has a lot going against him. So I'll vote Pat.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 09, 2008, 07:52:40 pm
If it wasn't 24 hours then people with school would have to skip at least half of some of the phases. So lets keep it like this for at least until the weekend maybe?

Thats a good idea, fridays should allso count as weekends.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 09, 2008, 08:06:25 pm
Nah it has to stay uniform.

Uh... I've really got no more material (If you can even call it that) so I'm going to go stand over there and see what happens.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 09, 2008, 08:09:55 pm
Some one slap on the jingle from Jeopardy and play it on loop for the next 11 hours...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 10, 2008, 02:23:07 am
I vote Lualmoba. I hope Celdur have not walked down the wrong path in the forest. If Lualmoba would be one of pure heart then Celdur is in big trouble. Else he is big trouble. But will they dare touch him? We will know more soon and knowing is worth the risk.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Celdur on January 10, 2008, 03:49:20 am
well i figure that once lual is dead all will believe me
 and then there is no reason for them to not kill me...
so...can i has protection plx?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yossitaru on January 10, 2008, 06:33:24 am
As promised, I will tip the votes away from M. My vote is now:

Lualmoba
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 10, 2008, 07:22:28 am
After a loooong day, with pages of chatter, it was decided that Lualmoba should be banned. So he was. It turns out he was a Crooked Moderator for the Trolls!

Night 3
Night end (max): 10:00 PM EST Thursday 10, 2008

If you have powers you want to use, now would be the time to send them. The Trolls will now convene and decide who to delete during the night.

Note: Due to unlamps inactivity, Cobra is going to be filling his role.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 10, 2008, 07:32:37 am
Nice call Celdur. Even though we all suspected it right? Else we would not have voted for him :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 07:41:21 am
Yay!! Our first troll is gone. Celdur is our hero!! Lual was full of lies. Thank you to those who saved me from being banned, you won't be sorry that you did. I will bestow great gifts upon my heros who rescue me and set me free.

Looking at yesterdays event, take note of who voted for me and who supported Lual. Some of Lual's votes could have cast by his own people sacrificing him for the good of the Trolls. My list is changing but I'll wait until I see what happens today to post my suspicions and current troll list.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Yokto on January 10, 2008, 07:48:17 am
Yes trolls eat there own if they need to. A kill is a kill. Mmm.... Troll meat...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 10, 2008, 11:55:19 am
Finally, a Troll Kill.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 12:01:38 pm
You didn't vote for a troll buddy, you voted for me.  >:(

Notice that the trolls are awfully quiet tonight. Wonder what they are up to.  ???
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 12:03:55 pm
Now, let's see...

Killing Celdur would be the obvious course of action. However, so would protecting Celdur.
So.. to throw us off, they may strike elsewhere, risking further deaths to their own team to ensure their nightkill is not wasted.
However, they may use some kind of double bluff following this course of action and attack him expecting the townsfolk to not protect Celdur, as it would be the "obvious choice". This isn't likely, though.
Also, they may use their Burglar to take away Celdur's powers if they feel threatened enough by both him and the prospect of him being protected, in which case we still have what Celdur has already learned. Alternatively they could send a Bouncer.

So, possibilities, as I see them from the most likely first to least likely last...

1) Expecting Celdur to be attacked, they strike elsewhere.
2) They attack Celdur because he's the biggest threat to them right now.
3) They block Celdur from doing anything tonight.
4) They burgle Celdur.
5) They attack Celdur, expecting him to not be protected for whatever reason.

I would say right now Celdur is the largest asset the townsfolk have, so he should be protected regardless of whether it'll cause the mafia to hit someone else or not. Deacons, perhaps even God, I expect to see some protectin' action going down tonight. Celdur must not die.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 12:22:13 pm
Thats logical thinking but if I go with the thought that you are the Troll boss (not that you are) then you could be distracting us with this scenario while planning a switch-a-roo. The Troll boss would assume that Celdur is going to be protected. He would probably encourage one of his trolls to make a switch with Celdur and then target the switched person and hit Celdur instead. A God protection would be the best thing tonight so we can be sure that Celdur does not die. (if there is a God)

God if you are out there, please protect Celdur tonight.
*falls on knees to pray*

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 12:37:48 pm
Our lord, who art among us, I do not know thy name...

But yeah, God'd be the best option to ensure no-one dies. Even then, he may get blocked or burgled so we'll only be left with the information he has. On the other hand, would the mafia really want to waste their burglar on a cop when there's richer pickings?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 12:55:27 pm
Richer pickings? Interesting choice of words.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 01:04:19 pm
LadyM, Krakow Sam, Luminar, Yossitaru, and MetallicDragon in that order.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 01:11:58 pm
Richer pickings? Interesting choice of words.

Chief of Police, to gather information on potential threats very quickly.
Vigilante, to get a double nightkill.
Lunatic, to disarm their trap.
Superhero, to disarm their invulnerability.

All of those are preferable to steal over a Cop, the way I see it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 01:13:35 pm
Pat, quit telling people to vote for me. Go with Krakow next. If you vote me off then people will kill you next.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 01:19:03 pm
I live by the list and die by the list. Unless you do something that is useful (Blabbering on and on and giving compliments does not count) than you're still in the line of fire.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 01:31:01 pm
What would be useful? I give my ideas on things and whats wrong with compliments? You get more in life with honey than piss and vinegar.

I do have my own list based on voting patterns and what people say. I don't think they're going to listen to you anyway because you're playing your own game right now. I know what your game is and I'm going to beat you at it.

Take my name off Pat's list and voting for Krakow Sam next is a good move.

ps.. I don't blabber, I discuss.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 01:35:06 pm
Got an answer for everything don't you?

Going to need some proof before your name gets removed. And while you're at it find some proof against Sam too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 01:45:14 pm
How do I get proof? And why do I have to prove what I say about Krakow? You didn't provide any proof.

He targeted neoadept on day one with the other trolls, he targeted Brandon on day 2 which ultimately turned out well for everyone. He voted for you on day 3 and yet you say you are innocent. He is pack voting with his group plus the only time he says anything is when we call him out on it.

Now, you know me from the other game when I was mafia, I played timid and quiet. This game I'm not, why? because I have nothing to hide. I am on the good side and I will stand against the trolls to my death.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 01:51:58 pm
You know I've got the goods, that is why you are so adamantly trying to divert attention. Stop wasting ink and prove something.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 01:58:40 pm
No, I don't know you've got the goods, actually. It's more or less why your constant shifting and changing has made you a very poor choice to listen to, thus far.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Celdur on January 10, 2008, 02:15:21 pm
ha! i told you guys!  ;D

ok...i agree with the protection thing...i dont want to die...

i cant really say much now...cause im already in the red zone
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 02:31:43 pm
Hey Luminar I wasn't talking to you so mind your own business.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 02:55:39 pm
Everything posted in the thread is everyone's business.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 04:08:57 pm
We can't take the chance of the mafia targeting Celdur, so we'll have to use the protection on him. If they DO do some kind of big switcheroo thing then it'd be impossible to predict who they'll target (unless they do something obvious like LadyM) so I dunno... some powers could screw up the Mafia's plans, or just help them. I dunno what we should do... you guys have any suggestions?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 04:23:08 pm
7 who ate 9
Celdur
Krakow Sam
LadyM
Luminar
Mr. Consideration
Neoteric
PatMan33
Person21
Rhodix
shadowlord18
The Time Traveller
unlamp
Yokto
Yossitaru

These are the people who are still playing. I think it is important that we know that there are more people active than just the six of us who are posting.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 10, 2008, 04:26:13 pm
Actually, unlamp was replaced by Cobra. Unlamp when idle, and I let Cobra step in instead.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Celdur on January 10, 2008, 04:30:34 pm
cobra saves the day!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 04:40:59 pm
Actually, LadyM has a point when she says vote off the people who aren't talking. I can't talk because i have school, but there are some people who don't seem to say anything, and they have a higher chance of being mafia.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 05:59:29 pm
Not neccecarily. It can be spun either way.
"Player X is silent and won't say anything or explain his votes. He's gotta be mafia!"
"Player X is out in the open talking a lot. Maybe he's trying to trick us all, he's mafia!"
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 06:19:40 pm
7 who ate 9
Celdur
Krakow Sam
LadyM
Luminar
Mr. Consideration
Neoteric
PatMan33
Person21
Rhodix
shadowlord18
The Time Traveller
unlamp
Yokto
Yossitaru

*cough*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 06:22:42 pm
Apparently you forgot Metallic Dragon.

I had an idea hit me tonight that is now my new theory. I might be wrong about who is the mafia boss. I was thinking Luminar but now I'm thinking it might be Pat himself. Hear me out and help me fill in the missing pieces. I want to say it now in case I die tonight.

Pat has been acting very crazy and sporadic, posting what we thought was nonsense. Remember the comment I made about the magician causing a distraction while he made the switches with his other hand. I think Pat may be causing a distraction in the thread while telling people what to do behind the scenes so we don't notice them. He was convinced that we shouldn't kill Brandon because he could guarantee a two for one kill the next night. How can he know that unless he knows the roles of his people and can tell them exactly what to do. I think the two for one would have killed a forum member not a troll. If Pat was investigated he would show up as innocent in a random role so thats not a guaranteed way to check the truth. He has given us a list of people to vote for and included some of own to throw us off. If he is the boss, then it's an expertly run operation with a big plan.

Please consider this theory and if you can make it stronger post your thoughts.

My new mafia list is:
Patman, Krakow Sam, 7 who ate 9, Mr Consideration and possibly Shadowlord and maybe Metallic Dragon.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 06:28:45 pm
But what about your precious little Celdur? He loves me, and you love him, therefore shouldn't you vicariously love me too?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 06:35:32 pm
If he investigated you then you showed up as innocent and he believed it but if your not, then he needs to consider that possibility. My precious Celdur is still trustworthy, just caught up in your tornado of deceit. His love for you will falter soon. 
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 06:37:22 pm
Right now Celdur is the only one I trust, so i'll listen to him.
Pat is badly untrustworthy because of his erratic and chaotic screaming and shouting.
LadyM I don't trust much either right now, many of her posts have struck me as being... off. Twisty, somehow.

Celdur, what's your hit on them both? You knew Lual was definatley bad, so tell us who's definatley good.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 06:38:40 pm
Huh... I'm surprised we didn't notice what he said about getting 2-for-1 with Brandonazz, but... why would he have to convince the mafia not to kill brandon? Or was he saying that during the day?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 06:41:49 pm

LadyM I don't trust much either right now, many of her posts have struck me as being... off. Twisty, somehow.


I agree, but i wouldn't call her mafia.

I really don't know who to vote for, no one is on my list of suspects, but i think metallic dragon could be mafia, i don't know. All of our leaders are going crazy  :( :'(

I still think Pat was hacker, i could see why brandon would want pat and that could be why pat wanted brandon alive.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 06:45:18 pm
He said that during the day to prevent the day vote, he indicated that he could guarantee a two for one kill that night. My posts might seem twisty but I'm running scenarios in my head based on voting patterns and things that have been said. Lies and deceit are part of this game. I've tried to tell you why you should trust me and if you don't then I don't know what else to do. At this point, I trust Yokto and Celdur the most. I look to them to protect me through this dark time.

I truly believe the Troll boss is working hard to keep us confused and he is using every trick in the book. If it is Pat then I also believe that he and Krakow Sam are working together to throw us off.

edit: Another thought, what if we have a super strong Troll base that includes Luminar, Pat and Krakow Sam. *head explodes*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 06:54:04 pm
I know Pat said that, but I think he was lying. Like you said, thats part of the game.  There really aren't that many people posting, which is making it hard. You're right though, i think Krakow might be mafia.

Right now i think either Krakow, Yokto (that thing he said at the beginning of the game still confuses me, did he do nything to prove he was townsfolk though? I didn't read this whole thread), Lady M, Luminar. That list is small, and I don't think im right about Lady M and im really convinced Luminar isn't troll either. So my list is of two people basiclly.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 06:57:36 pm
I know Pat said that, but I think he was lying. Like you said, thats part of the game.  There really aren't that many people posting, which is making it hard. You're right though, i think Krakow might be mafia.

Right now i think either Krakow, Yokto (that thing he said at the beginning of the game still confuses me, did he do nything to prove he was townsfolk though? I didn't read this whole thread), Lady M, Luminar. That list is small, and I don't think im right about Lady M and im really convinced Luminar isn't troll either. So my list is of two people basiclly.
Ooooo, you just told me that you are a troll. If you don't understand by now what Yokto did at the beginning then you don't know what role the Time Travellor holds. That post alone proved Yokto's innocence. I think now you're protecting Pat.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 06:59:43 pm
Nice find, LadyM. I was suspicious of 789 to begin with given his obliviousness to that entire situation, but now i'm REALLY suspicious of him. He's getting my vote next round, if Celdur doesn't dig anything more concrete up.

Also, you say the Troll Boss is pulling out every trick in the book. That means we could possibly catch him out on at least one, that's the nature of tricks right? Think - if you were the Boss what tricks would you use, and how would you best counteract those tricks?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Oviraptor on January 10, 2008, 07:05:55 pm
Members logged in, and checked the member list. It seems that during the night, two accounts were deleted. One was Rhodix, a Nitpick for the Forum Members, and the other was Celdur, the Admin for the Forum Members. What would the forum do know, without their Admin?

Day 4
Vote end (max): 5:00 PM EST Friday January 11, 2008

Hacker Population: 1

Who should be the next to be banned?

7 who ate 9

blitzonator

Cobra

Krakow Sam

Luminar

MetallicDragon

Mr. Consideration

Neoteric

PatMan33

Person21

shadowlord18

The Time Traveller

Yokto

Yossitaru

**Remember, if you don't cast a vote, it counts against you**
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 07:09:51 pm
Stupid idiots!

Follow my list or kill yourselves right now.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 07:10:26 pm
DEAAAACOOOOOOOOONS! >=(
Grr. This is a bitter blow. Voting 7 who ate 9 like planned.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 07:12:08 pm
Oh crap, they got Celdur.  :'( That was so planned out, they set us up. God has failed us tonight.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 07:12:26 pm
LadyM, LadyM, a thousand times LadyM!

I know you're all just sitting there laughing that nobody is listening to me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 07:14:11 pm
If they follow your list they will kill another of their own. It's best to ditch your list right now and focus on what we do know. Townies share what you found out.

There are six Trolls still left. We have to choose the right one today.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 07:22:11 pm
I'm taking a back seat for this round. To quote the theme song to the great great Nickelodeon show, Salute Your Shorts:

Get it right or pay the price.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 07:31:10 pm
Go for 789 as planned. He's the safest bet right now, as per our combined suspicions. Then uh... i'm kind of out of leads after that. Pat or Yossitaru maybe.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 07:36:21 pm
You've done your work, of course you can take a back seat now. If we lose one more member then we lose the game.

This is the win condition for the Trolls:
Quote
TROLLS
WIN CONDITION: EQUAL OR SURPASS THE FORUM MEMBERS IN NUMBER & ALL HACKERS MUST BE BANNED OR DELETED

They need one more forum member and the hacker to win. If they manage to kill the hacker and it's a forum member then we will lose in one turn. If you have cards to play, then do it now. Please, all forum member come together and share what you know. This is the turning point. We also have two players that will idle out after today and be deleted, that could also end the game.

I have no power to help our side and I long to be free.

This is my troll list, please add what you know to confirm if you have information. 789 seems the most certain to be troll.

Patman
7 who ate 9
Krakow Sam
Metallic Dragon
Shadowlord
Mr.Consideration

*Luminar, I want to trust you, give me something to work with.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 07:41:03 pm
Rhodix's death was probably my fault. I used my power on him and it turned out to be death, so this mess is probably my fault to quite a degree. My suspicions definatley got the better of me there. From now on i'm listening to other people, this has gone and screwed my gut feeling up with the power of "Oh crap!", I don't quite know what to do anymore, apart from follow the course set for me when I was thinking better.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 07:46:14 pm
I think I know what role you have now and I have more trust in you. Let's focus on the ones who are left. If your role is what I think, then continue to use your powers if you can and maybe you will hit the right one. If we sit and do nothing, then nothing happens.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: shadowlord18 on January 10, 2008, 07:49:56 pm
i vote bltiznatior
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yossitaru on January 10, 2008, 07:55:25 pm
Well, this is the breaking point, so I should clear up too. If I had used my power differently last night, at least one could have been saved. I really thought we had more, but if we did, they were all as stupid as me. There is little left, but there is one thing we can count on, if the one hacked player is still not fixed, their win condition is still not met because the third party is not entirely removed.

We must be careful, we may have a better chance of hitting proper marks now, but our risk is at the same percentage...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 07:56:42 pm
The death power is already gone, though. I'm not going to be able to take anyone else out if that's what you mean. Anyway, let's focus. It's desperate now, but let's focus. Even if our cause is lost, let's fight to the bitter end.

You said 789 is likely a troll on the basis he said he doesn't know what Yokto was on about and thus wants to implicate him as a troll.
Earlier I had ascertained that I noticed 789 remained completley oblivious to Yokto's ruse while it was going on, whereas most players either voted for Yokto out of heavy suspicion, or at least mentioned they knew what he was talking about. This causes me to think he just discarded it all as irrelevant, since it wasn't exactly easy to miss; but what kind of townsfolk would discard such an incredibly obvious and dangerous plan like that entirely and pursue their own end? Thus, I think 789 is a troll too.

My suspicion of him and the detail you picked out mesh together really well, if you ask me. Hence, i'm voting for him.

As for other players...
I figure Blitz is innocent, since he knew to vote for Yokto.
Krakow Sam... the only thing i've got in my notes is that he put his vote down on neoadept when several others already had. That could mean anything though.
Yossitaru was very quick to implicate neoadept in Round 1. Pointed out and called out his aggressive demeanor right away, perhaps was drawing attention to a negative in order to exploit it?
Patman33... honestly, if the situation wasn't so desperate i'd lynch him for the sole fact he's getting right on my nerves.
Metallic Dragon was a bit keen to listen to Lualmoba's (who has since turned out to be guilty) implications of Brandonazz. Remember, the Mafia don't know who the hacker was.
Yokto is probably a maverick townsfolk member.

I have nothing on the rest of them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 08:18:17 pm
Here is my list then and what I think based on the game.

7 who ate 9: troll based on his not knowing what Yokto meant and Pat's vote change to a "safe" person.
Blitz: I think he is good and in a role that would have been helpful last night but his inactivity hurt us badly.
Krakow Sam: Troll and the boss's right hand man, more of a gut feeling.
Luminar: He is good based on his power use last night.
Metallic Dragon: borderline but leans more toward the Troll side. Hasn't really taken a strong stand anywhere.
Mr Consideration: I'm not sure what side he is on but based on his last vote I have to say he is a troll.
Neoteric: I think he is good based on his vote for Lual. He's done nothing to seem otherwise.
Patman: We've all seen the odd behavior. I'm convinced he is the big man himself, the Boss of the Trolls. He is willing to step out now that the damage is done.
Shadowlord: based on his vote just now and his vote for me, I think he is following orders from his Boss
Cobra/unlamp: I think this is also a good role that was inactive and could have helped us last night.
Yokto: Pure of heart and a true forum member.
Yossitaru: His actions of yesterday proved to me that he is good.

If you are a good town person then cast your vote for 7 who ate 9, the most obvious troll we have right now. This is how you prove yourself. I am not free to vote myself until my master votes. This will also show if he is pure of heart or a troll.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 08:24:00 pm
I really don't understand it though. I know what what the time traveler is, so why did yokto vote for him? Its like he wanted townsfolk to think he was a troll.  And sence Celdur knew who all mods are, and since lual was the crooked cop, and since he trusted patman im going to say pat is a mod. But im not going to vote for LadyM because i know she is townsfolk. I will vote Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 08:26:41 pm
Yes he did. By saying that those pure of heart will know why he voted for him, he proved his innocence. Those of us who knew what TTT was, knew what he meant. Those that didn't were either troll or hacker.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 08:28:13 pm
So he proved his innocence, by voting for who we knew was (im just going to say it, no point now) the Ent? Crap me being an idiot is just digging my self into a deeper whole, im probable going to get lynched. Oh well, this was a good game though.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 08:32:42 pm
Self defense force activate!
There were things about Brandon, the things he said etc, that gave me the strong impression that he was the hacker. I don't actually remember these reasons now though :P

It may have been about him being oblivious to TTT's role, but then I forget why I didn't think he was Troll...

As for the lack of a strong stand, well, near the beginning I just had nothing to say. There was very little evidence and I didn't want Pat to influence me into voting for the helpful people. Also I missed a few pages when the forums got rolled back, and yesterday I was too tired to form a coherent thought. But, now that more evidence is emerging, I feel more confident in throwing accusations.

I also have my own evidence against 789, so I too will vote for him.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Neoteric on January 10, 2008, 08:33:01 pm
Sam can't be the Boss's right hand man.

patman you are completely wrong about sam...trust me on that one

Celdur received the report about Sam from me on Night 2. Of course, it's always possible that he is the Boss.

Last night I investigated Luminar, so I can confirm that he is the philosopher for the forum members.

The first night, I investigated Brandonazz. Rather oddly, it came back with my own role. I'd like anyone who interacted with me on night 1 to come forward, please.


Metallic Dragon was a bit keen to listen to Lualmoba's (who has since turned out to be guilty) implications of Brandonazz. Remember, the Mafia don't know who the hacker was.

Luminar, it should have been obvious to anyone in the Mafia that Brandonazz was the 1337 Hacker; he'd be the only one not on their list of Mafia members that would not have known about The Time Traveller's role.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 10, 2008, 08:36:28 pm
Still say LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 10, 2008, 08:39:47 pm
TTT, that might not be the smartest move. Patman isn't making much sense and Lady M is (even though there is something odd about her post). I'm still wondering who got hacked, probable someone smart because brandazz chose them.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 08:40:44 pm
You know what? Maybe he got hacked, that is not a smart vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 08:42:46 pm
If I'm hacked how does that explain the great saint Celdur backing me up? Since none of you will listen me (Nothing new there) then listen to the person you had killed.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 08:43:07 pm
Still say LadyM.

Woof woof?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 10, 2008, 08:48:23 pm
That's the game with werewolves.  This game has hackers.

Not that I'm one.   I really aren't.  I would be the first person to get hacked by a dumb guy, and the 1337 hacker would be smart enough not to do that.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 08:51:10 pm
If I'm hacked how does that explain the great saint Celdur backing me up? Since none of you will listen me (Nothing new there) then listen to the person you had killed.
I don't think your hacked, I think your the boss. I think TTT is hacked. Brandon always votes for him so why not? Why would he be voting for me at this point? Makes no sense.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 10, 2008, 08:52:37 pm
Why would TTT vote for M for no reason... unless he HAD to? You see what I'm hinting at?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 10, 2008, 08:53:45 pm
Fine you got me, I'm the boss.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2008, 08:56:27 pm
Why would TTT vote for M for no reason... unless he HAD to? You see what I'm hinting at?
He doesn't have to because I am the slave. I am not free to vote my heart, I have a master. When the master votes, we will know what side he is on.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yossitaru on January 10, 2008, 09:07:26 pm
There is a major oversight in the rules about the Me Too role. If you are telling the truth, M, then I know who the Big Dog is, which means they are also a person who did not vote on day one. And this returns to my initial comment of a rule oversight, the Me Too rule says nothing about if the Big Dog does not vote, however, if the rules are to be taken entirely literally, M should not have voted on day one, because the Big Dog did not.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Oviraptor on January 10, 2008, 09:12:16 pm
That issue came up, and I clarified that Me Too can vote freely if Big Dog doesn't. It's' a tricky thing, however. Personally, I didn't anticipate Big Dog not voting, so I hadn't thought to add it to the rules.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 10, 2008, 10:50:25 pm
Yeah, I put a clause in my guidebook about that. The Me Too is free to vote if the Big Dog doesn't, but if the Me Too fails to vote due to waiting too long for the Big Dog's vote, resulting in an eventual voting failiure on part of the Big Dog when the Me Too is clearly active otherwise, it doesn't count against the Me Too.

Also, if it helps, i've used three of my powers so far. I have six buttons to choose from, can use four in total. Here's my power use so far...

Night 1: Brandonazz, Button 4 (Unknown)
Night 2: 789, Button 1 (Unknown)
Night 3: Rhodix, Button 5 (Death)

So I still have buttons 2, 3, and 6 available, but I can only pick one because it's my last shot of power. Thus far I haven't seen any kind of result from the button pressing apart from last night's death button. If i'm lucky, I might have an investigation mimic waiting, but I only have a 1/3 chance of hitting it (ive just been hitting buttons at random). If not, then the powers I have at my disposal are anyone's guess.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 02:51:28 am
Ok I'm off the bench and in the game. How ever I'm not going to read all 31 pages to see who is a suspect and what people know so can someone give me a quick over view of opinions on who is mafia/troll and who isn't.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2008, 03:25:32 am
Ok I'm off the bench and in the game. How ever I'm not going to read all 31 pages to see who is a suspect and what people know so can someone give me a quick over view of opinions on who is mafia/troll and who isn't.

An unbiased one? No. Read the stuff, seriously.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 03:43:49 am
I'm not reading 30 odd pages. I don't expect facts from everyone but I'm actually after the swayed opinions people to give a run down who they trust and who they don't. I don't want to put my foot in it by say voting for someone who was already established as a townie/forum member. If you seriously think I'm reading 31 pages of back and forth ranting you got to be kidding your self. Hence just give me a condensed version, some opinions.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yokto on January 11, 2008, 04:09:52 am
Both Pat and KS have less then 90% chance of being a troll just so you all know.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 04:38:13 am
What you mean less than as in like somewhere between 80% and 90%? or just less and that could mean they have a 1% chance.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 04:49:46 am
Both Pat and KS have less then 90% chance of being a troll just so you all know.

Thank you. Thank you for backing up exactly what is obvious from both the way I've been voting the whole game and the results of Neoteric's investigations.
LadyM is using exactly the same false reasoning as Pat is: 'Krakow is Smart, so he *must* be a troll'.
That said I'm fairly sure LadyM isn't a troll either, so I'm not going to risk sacrificing a fellow townsfolk for the purposes of extremely petty retaliation.

So I vote 789. (Especially since he seems quite keen to vote *me* off)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 05:03:41 am
Ahhhh we are in a day phase I didn't even think to check that I better come up with someone seeing I don't know If I'll make it back before the banning.

I vote for Patman33 although only because Yokto was kind enough to give me some details so it comes down to essentially a coin flip for me between KS and Pat. Sorry Pat. If some how I get back on before the banning and someone else wants to fill me in with better info I may use my vote change thingy.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 11, 2008, 05:14:24 am
Ah crap, i don't wanna die. The only way i could possibly live longer is to vote for ladym, but i wont do that because i am sure she is forum member.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 06:52:37 am
@Cobra - since we're not sure what side you are on, its hard to give you a total update. If you read the last few pages we've pretty much laid what we know out there for all to see.

We are convinced that 789 is troll and thats the vote we are asking for. That said, it's obvious now that the Trolls are going to sacrifice 789 for the team and they will all vote for him to cover their tracks. He will die today and the next twist will come at night. I've indicated that I believe TTT is hacked so if they kill him at night then they win the game. If he is not hacked, then they have another day to try again.

Either Pat or Krakow is the boss, I feel this in my gut and they are working as a team, posting opposite of each other but doing a well organized dance. I'd like to know what Yokto is basing his statistics on and be more clear about what he meant. I think the time for being cryptic is over.

All I can suggest is that everyone use their powers tonight and really twist this last night up and hope for the best. Try to think of who the Trolls will target and how you can mess that up. If there is a God player, please use your power tonight so no one dies. This is the night to use it. We lost one deacon and I don't know if there is another or if there is a god role. Expect the trolls to steal a power tonight if they already haven't done it.

I'm going to pm Oviraptor my vote in the event my master does not place his vote today. I'm having thunder storms and might lose power.

Major brain flag

I no longer think that Pat is Troll. I think he is the nanny and here is why:
Pat tried to get us to change our vote from Brandon to 789. Why? because he knew 789 was troll due to 789's response to Yokto. "It's all in the numbers"
He said we would get a 2 for 1. That meant that we would kill "789/troll" in the daytime, Pat would delete Brandon at night (hence the 2nd one) and the Trolls would take out someone at night. I think he acted crazy to get us to notice and change our vote so he could help us. I would followed at time but I couldn't change mine. (slave remember?)

Do not kill Pat!!!

My suspicion now lies with Krakow Sam being the Troll Boss. His voting pattern indicates he votes for members, Neoadept, Patman and Brandon. He wouldn't know that Brandon was the hacker just that he wasn't a troll.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 07:20:48 am
 :'(

Townies, please don't listen to LadyM. While she isn't a troll, she is totally misguided. I'm not implying pat is a troll either, so please don't vote for either of them (or me  :P).
Today we should just focus on 789, now a few people have voted it only remains to study who the remaining people vote for and we should be able to discern quite clearly who is troll and who isn't.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 07:50:32 am
Oh, you just so confirmed my suspicions. Cry your little crocodile tears, I'm on to you now. You are sacrificing 789 so you can have the night to do your damage.

I thought before that Pat was the nanny but I got off track because he kept insisting that I was next. I'm assuming he's been trying to change the hacker back but gets thwarted every night by switches or blocks. Maybe Pat's power got stolen, I don't know.

If we live through the night then Krakow Sam should be the next to die.

Hacker theory:
If Brandon knew he was going die then who would he hack first? Someone he knew would stay in the game the longest, someone we would not vote off. That leaves two people, TTT or Yokto. If everyone knows that TTT is the Ent, he is not voted off. If everyone knows that Yokto is a forum member, he is not voted off. Either of them could be hacked.

Post people!!! Being quiet does not help anything right now. We need to know what you know.

edit: spelling
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 08:00:19 am
As opposed to keeping quite, which would have also 'confirmed your suspicions'.
You have nothing on me but conjecture and a few times in which I unwittingly voted for townies. Guess what? Almost everyone has done that!

You know, I'm actually on the brink of changing my mind about you. You're all too quick to accuse people of covering for the mafia and concocting schemes to make us turn against each other. Perhaps a nice cover for the fact you yourself are a troll. The fact you're a Me Too is totally perfect, since it means you never have to justify who you vote for, but you can sling as much mud as you like about the people who are a threat to your cushy little setup.

I'm changing my vote to LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 08:20:43 am
Scared are you? Am I getting to close to the truth?

Krakow changing his vote is concrete evidence to me that he is a troll. It's a mafia ploy when they feel threatened to try to turn tables on the one doing the talking. It's pretty obvious that I'm a forum member so voting for me is a pretty broad accusation. Pat was right in having Krakow on his list. I think it's too dangerous to keep him here another night so I am asking all of you to vote for Krakow Sam instead of 7 who ate 9. This is the day vote when all of the trolls will come out of hiding and show their true colors.

Pat and Cobra and TTT please trust me and change your vote to Krakow Sam. If I am banned you will see what a mistake you made not voting for Krakow Sam.

I've made noble effort to lead you the right way. Again, if your going to vote for me, write my name in blue .


edit: 4 more hours until the vote closes

There are also two people who will idle out if they don't vote today so there could be as many as 3 deaths.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 10:45:37 am
FINALLY someone  figured it out!

Good work LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Neoteric on January 11, 2008, 10:58:41 am
Sam. Tell me, what is your role? If it isn't what I found it as, then you're mafia. If you refuse to reveal it, then you're mafia.
Clear your name.

Also, because the day phase ends soon, I'm going to vote for 789, as the best shot at hitting a mafia member.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 11:00:26 am
FINALLY someone  figured it out!

Good work LadyM.

Well, you still voted for me and I'm in the lead. You can't afford to let me get banned this turn, please change your vote to 789 or Krakow, please don't waste it on me. I almost made that link earlier but you keep insisting on voting me out and I'm trying to tell you that I'm good this game. Please Pat... trust me... please. 
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Person21 on January 11, 2008, 11:03:09 am
I'll vote 789
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 11:11:18 am
No I still think I'm going to keep my vote as is. After all you never did prove to me that you were not Mafia. Besides, as soon as you're on the chopping block you realize that my whole story made sense whereas before all you did was try to convince everyone that I was making it all up. Yeah... I know, sounds pretty bad doesn't it?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 11:11:52 am
Sam. Tell me, what is your role? If it isn't what I found it as, then you're mafia. If you refuse to reveal it, then you're mafia.
Clear your name.

I'm a Big Cat.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Neoteric on January 11, 2008, 11:17:43 am
Good try, but not quite.
You showed up in my report as a Stealth.

He's the mafia boss, lynch him!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 11:20:17 am
Umm? You want to check your records again?
I'm a Big Cat.
I'm sure if our protectors hadn't fouled up then Celdur would back me on this.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Neoteric on January 11, 2008, 11:33:37 am
Face it, Sam, I've found it out. And since you're the boss, that means Pat is innocent.
The PM definitely says that you are a Stealth. You know I can't supply any more evidence, because it would get me kicked out.
And you can't blame it on a Grammarian/Nitpick, because I got the results, and they have your name on it. And the Agent's framing results always show up as a Troll. So there are no excuses.

You are the Godfather. Hello, Godfather.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 11:34:32 am
I'm in the market for a little protection tonight, a little protection please?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 11:43:17 am
Why do you need protection? You won't back me up Pat. How was I suppose to believe you before when you won't give me the same consideration? You insist on voting for me for no good reason.

I can't prove to you who I am, I have no active power. Yes, this morning it finally hit me why your story made sense, before that it didn't. You seemed crazy along with Yokto who I now believe to be hacked.

Is it really going to hurt to wait and vote for me later if you still believe it to be true? I've laid down my sword to you and deemed you to be innocent, can't you do the same for me? Please?

Good move Neoteric.

Fellow members, please don't let me die. Pat won't help save me so I need the rest of you. Please vote 789 or Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 11:48:08 am
Face it, Sam, I've found it out. And since you're the boss, that means Pat is innocent.
The PM definitely says that you are a Stealth. You know I can't supply any more evidence, because it would get me kicked out.
And you can't blame it on a Grammarian/Nitpick, because I got the results, and they have your name on it. And the Agent's framing results always show up as a Troll. So there are no excuses.

You are the Godfather. Hello, Godfather.

And how exactly does anyone know you aren't a troll?
How very convenient that you only come out with this supposed revalation the exact turn after Celdur, the only person that could have revealed you, is deleted.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 12:10:04 pm
I love how the Mr. Consideration Prosecution is based entirely on the fact that I voted for LadyM...which many people did. M claims 'turning the tables' on someone is a Troll tactic; yet she has used it on me on several occasions.

If I vote for 789, I'm voting off a fellow Troll to cover my tracks. If I don't, I'm not voting for my troll comrade in the hope he'll survive.
If I vote for Sam the same thing. For once I feel truly threatened by the Townsfolk; whatever I vote implicates me somehow.

I'm not sure what evidence there is for 789, other than failing to see Yokto's first-page gambit, which admittedly, is pretty vague.
The same for Sam; the evidence against him relies entirely on Neoteric being a Townie: it would be a good plot for the Mafia to attempt to implicate an innocent as Mafia Boss (With any investigation displaying them as a townie simply a result of the Boss's power) and all it would require would be the eventual end of Neoteric, who could always claim he had been disrupted somehow and it was all a horrible accident. It's unlikely he'd get off but at this stage if they win the Lynch and then get thier night kill it would bring them alot closer to victory.

Can anyone vouch for Neoteric?

EDIT: Removed bit where I repeated myself.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 12:14:32 pm
Actually your vote might help you more than you think. Anything I used on you was your doing, not mine. I really don't know what side you are on but this vote might tell us where you stand. Voting Neoteric is not a choice.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 12:30:38 pm
In that case, I'll go with the crowd, and for 7 who ate 9. Voting for Sam would be a waste anyway.

EDIT: Spelling. Sausage Fingers today.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 12:40:38 pm
I also place my vote for 7 who ate 9.  :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 12:44:19 pm
I also place my vote for 7 who ate 9.  :)

Oh good. Now I won't be hanged when it turns out he was God or the Nanny or something.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 12:52:11 pm
He's not a Nanny, start listening.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 01:10:15 pm
In that case, I'll go with the crowd, and for 7 who ate 9. Voting for Sam would be a waste anyway.

EDIT: Spelling. Sausage Fingers today.

I also place my vote for 7 who ate 9.  :)

Ladies and germs, we have our Big Dog!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 01:15:07 pm
Woof.

I also didn't vote on the first day, I think.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 01:21:04 pm
Ayup, records show you didn't.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yossitaru on January 11, 2008, 01:27:12 pm
Your lack of vote on the first day and the voting patterns on the days after gave me more than enough information to have come to that conclusion before, but I'm still unsure of your position, Consideration.

From how it looks, we are going to lose either M or 789 here... I'm going to watch for another 15 minutes before making a vote, the status of that person will tell the end of this game...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 01:29:39 pm
People, don't forget about Krakow Sam. He is the Godfather here. He should get your consideration also. Yossi, if you vote for me I'll know that you are a troll after all.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 01:41:24 pm
Yossi, if you vote for me I'll know that you are a troll after all.

Great trap ;).

And we don't know Sam is the Godfather; you were advancing that it was Patman not long ago. I personally don't believe it for a second. He just doesn't seem to be pulling strings anywhere. But, of course, that's how he'd want to appear to us. I have no idea on this one, but I personally can't see it.

Either way, it'll be impossible to change our vote to Sam now, we'll have to get him tomorow.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2008, 01:45:35 pm
Hmm.... now i'm trying to figure out the mafia's next course of action, now that we have the Big Dog/Me Too combo.

Mr. Con could possibly be exploited to turn him against the townsfolk with his double-vote. Using this, and with the numbers so thin and close, the mafia might be able to secure their victory via a brute force vote.
At this moment in time however i'd say M is the mafia's largest threat. They may choose to eliminate her during the night to basically knock off the townsfolk's head, in terms of rational investigation and discussion.

One way or another, i'd say God using his powers is vital to our success tonight. With the numbers so tight the situation is desperate enough to warrant the power usage. God, if you're out there, if you fail to use your power tonight you may well cause us to lose. Don't do that - Save the Lady, Save the World.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yossitaru on January 11, 2008, 01:48:15 pm
Well, the alloted time is up, and it seems that voting for anyone but 789 is a waste...

Yossi, if you vote for me I'll know that you are a troll after all.

Great trap ;).

Trap? No, I call that distrust. Her words mean little to me now.

Regardless of anything else, my vote will have to go with the crowd:

7 who ate 9
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 01:51:38 pm
God certaintly didn't perform any miracles last night. Two dead Townies testify to that.

This is really delicate, and we have to play it really well. Another spanner in the works is there is still a Hacker at large, and it could be anyone of you. The Hacker will be trying to destroy the Mafia first, of course, which is a relief.


As I see it, one of the 'Big Three' (LadyM, Luminar and Pat) has to be Mafia. But none of them has led us astray and I have no idea who to trust, although I'm confident Luminar is a safe-bet. LadyM can't exactly vote for me; but Pat is still a loose cannon. Sam seems very suspect, but there is still no evidence other than that of just-as-dubious Neoteric. Yossitaru, I have no idea.

And most other people have been utterly silent.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 11, 2008, 02:05:26 pm
It was a long day, with much discussion, but in the end, nearly everyone decided that 7 who ate 9 should be banned. It turns out he was a Big Cat for the Forum Members. Also, blitzonator was banned due to inactivity. He was the Kung-Fu Master for the Forum Members.

Night 4
Night end (max): 10:00 AM EST Saturday 12, 2008

If you have powers you want to use, now would be the time to send them. The Trolls will now convene and decide who to delete during the night.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 02:06:58 pm
Oh, ****.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Yossitaru on January 11, 2008, 02:09:02 pm
And there we have it, our game over... Even with a miracle we have no hope.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 02:15:36 pm
Oooo...kay...

So we've lost two of the potentially most useful townies.
God, if you're listening?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 02:20:07 pm
O crap  :'( he seemed so guilty, I started doubting him today and I wanted everyone to vote Krakow. Why didn't you say more 789? Today was the day. Why didn't you use your powers last night? I'm confused now, everyone Pat has voted for is townie yet he is suppose to be a nanny. Thats why I didn't trust him. Pat you want everyone to listen to you but haven't pegged one right yet.

The only plan I can come up with is for everyone with powers available to use them tonight. Think about what the Trolls might do and try to switch it. Think about who might be hacked. If we sit here and do nothing, then we will be picked off. We have to try. Mix it up and try your best and let the chips fall where they may. Just think it out and pick your target well.

If you don't want to listen to me, I understand, I feel useless now anyway. Just follow your heart make the best choice you can. I don't know if we can recover now anyway.

KS - your member impersonation doesn't fool me
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 02:27:46 pm
Have you ever read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf?"  :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 02:32:46 pm
Again I look at the results and again I must ask how long it will be before you fools start to listen to me.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 02:35:23 pm
Perhaps if you can the elitism, and boldly state who you want dead, we'd listen.

And I remember you were very eager to kill 789 for a very long time.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 02:41:21 pm
Are you blind or just amazingly stupid?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: LadyM on January 11, 2008, 02:48:10 pm
Again I look at the results and again I must ask how long it will be before you fools start to listen to me.

Are you blind or just amazingly stupid?

Vote me next and see how stupid it is. Listen to Pat then, I'll step back and let him have the floor. I can't do anything anyway but blindly follow a master I don't want.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 4
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2008, 03:12:48 pm
WHAT?! Oh christ almighty. I could have sworn he'd be mafia. Well, we're screwed.

Again I look at the results and again I must ask how long it will be before you fools start to listen to me.

(http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7673/heypatqy4.jpg)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 03:27:30 pm
They are just mocking me now, why is this not obvious to anyone else?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 03:42:22 pm
If it's only obvious to you, then I'm going to hazard a guess that 'obvious' isn't the best way to describe your clues.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 03:44:08 pm
Unless you don't want to see them, but then again the problem could be stemming from the fact that I probably know how these people 'normally' act far better than the rest of you and so your knowledge of the situation doesn't allow you to see what I see.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2008, 03:55:00 pm
I'm kind of narked 789 didn't do more to make himself less suspicious. He had all the signs going for him and then just simply resigned himself to it when it turned against him. This hasn't been an error in our judgement any more than it was 789 not doing the right things. I dunno, he may just have not thought of them though... it is a game after all, so no grudges held.

I'm all out of leads now though. If we're all alive tomorrow, I don't know who to vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 03:59:15 pm
I'm all out of leads now though. If we're all alive tomorrow, I don't know who to vote.

That's depressing. Let's not give up; do as LadyM said: Powers used tonight, new plans, new action, new theories. Theres still a chance we could win this.

/Morale
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 11, 2008, 04:37:14 pm
Well, shoot. I agree with the use all powers tonight. I'll do what I can, too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Yokto on January 11, 2008, 05:26:46 pm
Damn i missed the vote? Bah...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 11, 2008, 05:31:49 pm
LadyM is the 1337 hacker.  I am not hacked.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2008, 05:33:09 pm
Oh, LadyM is the leet hacker is she?

Thats good to know.  :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Yokto on January 11, 2008, 05:34:58 pm
Eh... Is there not just one 1337 hacker in the game?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: PatMan33 on January 11, 2008, 05:38:11 pm
Exactly...

Someone (I won't say who) isn't paying attention to the game. His first initial is a 'T' and his last initial is a 'T'.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 09:13:51 pm
Help me out Pat what's his middle initial.  ;D

Serious note I have read a few earlier pages on LadyMs advice and have a bit more of an idea and now I hopefully can vote somewhere more effectively. I'm still a bit confused but from what I've seen it looks like the Trolls are doing everything they can to make us all confused and it seems to be working.

I'm not sure how close the game is to being over but with luck we can turn this back in our favour, it's not over until the fat lady sings.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Yokto on January 12, 2008, 04:29:17 am
OK i am sorry. I think i will have to resign the game due to some infomation i have gotten that i should not have acess to. But i will try to find a other player to replace me before i leave and not to act on this infomation.

Is that ok Ovi?



OK aparently things have not changed. It was a false alarm. The infomation i was given was faulty. But i know a person who should be a bit more carefull about what he says.

(And i should keep my mouth shut some more to.)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 05:21:27 am
After a good nights sleep I'm back and still not ready to give up. Should I not live through the night then I want to be sure that I have left my thoughts here to linger on.

I still don't understand what Pat is doing unless he is playing his own game to mess everyone up. We already found our traitor but what if there were two. Everything he has done has helped the Trolls yet he is suppose to be the Nanny, unless that was a lie just like the cake. I have not seen the other hacker change back yet. I can tell you this, when I am dead you will see what a mistake any vote for me would be and it will make Pat look very foolish.

That said I would stop listening to him and focus everything you have on Krakow Sam. Put every vote you have on him. I beg my master to place his vote for him too so I can do the same. I'm holding out hope that my master's heart runs true and will listen to me but I fear that he is not on my side.

@Krakow- I have to say that you have played a well organized game and made the Trolls a strong group. I wish now that we had a traitor among your people. If Pat is working with you then you have made a quite a team.

@Cobra - the game is close to being over, as soon as the other hacker is killed, it will be over for the forum members. If you had a power I hope you used it.

There is still two hours left, if you haven't used a power, use it. If you are alive when the day comes and the game is still going on then vote for Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 12, 2008, 05:28:03 am
I still don't understand what Pat is doing unless he is playing his own game to mess everyone up.

Hacker?

And, if he is the Nanny, he shouldn't heal the Hacker, as that would make us lose to the Mafia.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 05:41:27 am
I thought of that for awhile and posted my suspicions. However if he truly is the Nanny then he can't be hacked or the hacker would have died. I don't know what he's doing, he's really not sharing any useful information except that he had a way to get rid of the 1337 Hacker.

Quote
1337 HACKER
Aff: HACKER
Power Type: Hack
Wins the game by converting everyone else into Hackers. Neither Trolls nor Forum Members can win until all Hackers have been eliminated.
There is only ever one 1337 Hacker at most in the game.
Can hack once per night.
If targeted by the Imposter, the Imposter is hacked, and loses his power.
Targeting the nanny will cause the nanny to be deleted.

You guys don't realize how much I run all these things through my head and play out every scenario. Pat fits into so many different scenarios it's hard to pin it down. If someone else hadn't confirmed it I'd really doubt it right now. When the game is over you'll see how his voting pattern worked out and how ever vote went to a forum member, Neoadept, 7 who ate 9, me twice and probably today too.

Anyway, forget Pat for now and focus on Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Yokto on January 12, 2008, 05:51:47 am
OK i am going clear with all my info. I am a Moderator. I have investagate Pat and he shows up as Nanny. There is a small chance that he can be the boss however. Krakow Sam shows up as a Deacon for the Forum Members. As patman there is a small chance that he the boss.

If anyone of them is the boss then we should try to find the others first. The boss only have passive ablities.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 05:56:03 am
Krakow Sam shows up as a Deacon for the Forum Members. As patman there is a small chance that he the boss.

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/2F02_30.jpg)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 05:58:13 am
Interesting, Krakow Sam showed up as a stealth to Neoteric. The Troll boss always shows as a random innocent roll. How much more random can that be? He also claims to be a Big Cat which we now know belonged to 789. We don't have enough players to have more than one.

If thats not enough evidence to kill him then I don't know what is. I'm not sure about anyone else but if we kill the boss maybe they will falter.

Vote for Krakow Sam.
*yes, I'm going to keep saying it until it gets through*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:03:59 am
Well, theres no sense keeping up this charade any longer.
I am indeed the nefarious godfather. Shame its too late for you poor townie saps to do anything about it.

Thanks Pat, you were a great help  ;D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 06:10:37 am
Well, there you go people. It's probably already too late. I guess we'll see what the night brought and go from there.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 06:20:56 am
Krakow Sam is very intelligent.  He's probably making a ploy so that he doesn't get killed by the Mafia.  LadyM is hacked.


I am not hacked, I am not hacked, I am not hacked.  Anyone who thinks I am hacked is the real Godfather.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Person21 on January 12, 2008, 06:22:10 am
I am not hacked, I am not hacked, I am not hacked.  Anyone who thinks I am hacked is the real Godfather.

I'm sure a lot of people think your hacked.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:22:52 am
I don't think you're hacked.  :P


Anyway, I don't need a ploy to keep from being killed by the Mafia. I'm in charge of the freaking Mafia!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 06:24:51 am
No, I'm saying that you are pretending to be the Mafia boss to avoid the Mafia killing you.  There is a slight problem, however, which is that all Mafia know all Mafia identities.  I would suggest coming up with a new trick.

I am not hacked.  The hacked person is LadyM.  I am not hacked.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Person21 on January 12, 2008, 06:28:56 am
No, I'm saying that you are pretending to be the Mafia boss to avoid the Mafia killing you.  There is a slight problem, however, which is that all Mafia know all Mafia identities.  I would suggest coming up with a new trick.

But they won't kill off someonewho will draw the Town folks suspicion
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:29:08 am
No. I really am the Godfather.

You'll notice that the two people that investigated me came up with two different roles. The evidence is pretty conclusive.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Oviraptor on January 12, 2008, 06:44:00 am
As people logged in, everyone looked at the member list, to see who was missing. It seems poor Yokto was deleted during the night. He was a Moderator for the Forum Members.

Day 5
Vote end (max): 5:00 PM EST Sunday January 13, 2008

Hacker Population: 2

Who should be the next to be banned?

Cobra

Krakow Sam

LadyM

Luminar

MetallicDragon

Mr. Consideration

Neoteric

PatMan33

Person21

shadowlord18

The Time Traveller

Yossitaru

**Remember, if you don't cast a vote, it counts against you**
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Person21 on January 12, 2008, 06:46:20 am
Hacker Population: 2?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:46:48 am
Wait... Hacker population... 2?

What the fudge?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 4
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 06:47:44 am
Holy moly, someone else got hacked, how can that happen? OOOOOO.... the hacker's power got stolen!!!!!!!!!

We still have a Leet hacker.  :o

Don't play dumb KS, you know who the thief is.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 06:50:26 am
I am not a hacker.  So nannies don't need to investigate me.

I am innocent, not a hacker.  LadyM is the hacker.  Look at how she tries to find info on her victim's roles, so she can make a good decision!  And nice sob story, but no-one would believe you were a me-too.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:50:48 am
I don't. None of the Mafia are Necormancers. Its a forum member only role and as far as I know the only one was killed quite early on.  :-\

I suppose its possible one of Luminar's buttons was a hack button. Did you use a button Luminar?

Actually, it must be that. None of the role-stealing powers allows the theft of Leet Hacker powers.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 06:52:37 am
Your mafia player who can steal someones power must have stole Brandon's on the first night, someone who figured out who Brandon was, someone in the mafia. You have a traitor amongst you KS.

edit: Oh, thats an idea too, maybe a button was. This certainly is a twist in the game.

*Ovi, this has been quite a fun, twisty and interesting game.. good job*
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 06:53:06 am
I vote for LadyM.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:55:11 am
Nice try LadyM, I may well have a hacked among my number, but the leet haxxor is dead, and he isn't coming back.

The new hacker is obviously a result of the Philosopher's button.

Well, that or Ovi mistyped.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Person21 on January 12, 2008, 06:56:11 am
Or Ovi added a new hacker to stop the Mafia gaining control of the lynch.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:57:11 am
I doubt thats the case. He can't just unbalance the game like that on a whim.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Oviraptor on January 12, 2008, 06:59:57 am
The "2" was not a typo. It is the true count.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 07:00:10 am
Well your right, the Imposter can't take the leet hackers role so it had to be the button which means Luminar is now a hacker. It could be leet or regular, we don't know. Ovi would not have added one a whim, it was a random twisty event.

I vote for LadyM.

You know what? you have no reason for this vote. We're on the same side and yet you insist on wasting your vote on me especially when you know who the Godfather is. You are an Ent, act like an Ent. Pay attention to the game.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 07:04:39 am
My reason for this vote is that you are quite obviously hacked somehow.  How would I know you were townsfolk?  I am not hacked.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 07:07:40 am
You're wasting your vote. We need you to vote for KS, why can't you get that? You must be the hacked one because you aren't helping anybody but yourself. 

*beats my head against the wall*

Vote for Krakow Sam

also based on actions, TTT must be hacked and so is Luminar.
Quote
There is only ever one 1337 Hacker at most in the game.
this leads me to believe that it is a regular hacker role not leet
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 07:21:02 am
No, it means the person luminar targeted it hacked, why do you want to eliminate luminar?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 07:30:41 am
I don't but the button could have made Luminar a hacker too. I don't want him to be hacked, we need him. But your right, it could and probably is someone else. My brain has comfuzzled right now.

Anyway, we have 12 players left, six are Trolls unless one is hacked. We need to get rid of another Troll member, please don't waste your vote today.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 07:38:18 am
Yeah, don't waste your vote. Vote for Krakow Sam.
I dare ya.  ;)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 09:15:36 am
We're boned anyway, might as well put my vote on Krakow Sam. I don't know why he wants me to vote for him, but...
And yes, I used my last button on Patman. I see no other way for another hacked to appear... quite annoying that three of my buttons were useless, and the fourth was detrimental. Unless Patman has been converted and it counts as a loss for mafia in terms of outnumbering the townsfolk, but I don't know the odds of that.

I'm getting the distinct feeling i'm being played like a violin here...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 09:30:58 am
Me too! ;)

Here is my latest theory. What if the Imposter took Pat's power early in the game. Pat would show as nanny but have no power to use and thats why the hacked one stayed hacked. So Pat is now hacked and the other must be TTT. Once the Trolls pick all of us off, then they can convert/delete the hacked ones one by one and win.

I think KS was saying to vote for him as a mocking way way of saying it won't matter. If we can pull off a vote, it might help a little.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 09:33:06 am
No, I think TTT is just... being himself.
I admit though, it seems like I haven't done a damn thing right all game. I'm really beginning to question who is trustworthy here, but I have no other recourse than to vote Sam right now.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 12:07:33 pm
*shakes thread*

Come on guys.. vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 12, 2008, 01:46:06 pm
Well, I vote for Luminar.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: shadowlord18 on January 12, 2008, 01:53:45 pm
i will vote for lumanair
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 12, 2008, 01:54:36 pm
Luminar
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 03:07:54 pm
Now this I didn't predict.
Anybody going to state their reasoning, or are you just all bandwagoning?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 03:08:28 pm
Luminar should not be voted for.  LadyM should.  I am not hacked.  I am not hacked.  I am not hacked.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Person21 on January 12, 2008, 03:48:37 pm
Luminar
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 05:06:34 pm
Looks like the mafia's brute force vote. Oh well.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:37:08 pm
luminar.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 12, 2008, 07:15:09 pm
So the trolls come out of hiding and every one of them is on my list. The only one missing now is Cobra. It is with a very sad heart that I must cast my vote for Luminar. :'( I'm sorry Luminar, I have no choice. I feel like it's you and me alone here.  :'(

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 07:29:35 pm
YOU WON'T TAKE ME ALIVE, SCUM!!
*looks at spent spellbooks*
....eh, lemme get back to you on it though.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Cobra on January 12, 2008, 07:31:46 pm
Walks into middle of town with a piece of paper hands it to Ovi and leaves with out a fuss. On the paper is written "I vote for Luminar."
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Yossitaru on January 12, 2008, 07:32:53 pm
This is futile, but I'm going to have to go with a vote against

Krakow Sam
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: PatMan33 on January 12, 2008, 08:21:15 pm
LadyM.

Must follow the list.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 12, 2008, 08:46:22 pm
I am not a hacker.  LadyM, you are the Mafia boss.  I am not a hacker.

I am not a hacker.  Anyone who thinks I am a hacker is the Mafia boss.  I am not a hacker.

Edit:Patriotic FTW!  This is my 1776th post!  Patriotic people can't be hackers!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 13, 2008, 01:36:44 am
So the trolls come out of hiding and every one of them is on my list. The only one missing now is Cobra. It is with a very sad heart that I must cast my vote for Luminar. :'( I'm sorry Luminar, I have no choice. I feel like it's you and me alone here.  :'(

Even me? I thought I'd slipped under your radars collectivley for a very long time.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2008, 04:21:17 am
Ha, I'm pretty confident that pretty much everyone was on your list at this point.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 13, 2008, 07:31:24 am
Not everyone, but I did have all the ones who have voted and figured Cobra would be next. I suppose you didn't vote for me because Mr.C's vote would cancel out with mine and you risk losing the vote. I'm disappointed that Pat and TTT won't try to vote for Krakow, it's in their best interest as trolls to do so if they want a chance of survival.

Well played Trolls.

Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2008, 07:42:01 am
Yeah I really don't have it in me any more to be honest. You want my vote?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 13, 2008, 07:49:54 am
No, just stick to your plan, it won't really help anyway. It was fun while it lasted though. I have to say this was the best Mafia game, lots of chatter and strategy and drama.  :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 13, 2008, 08:00:55 am
I am not a hacker; don't require reasons, just vote for LadyM!  She certainly seems like a troll!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Person21 on January 13, 2008, 08:07:58 am
LadyM is not a troll. We've made it pretty obvious who we are...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 13, 2008, 11:30:51 am
LadyM is not a troll. We've made it pretty obvious who we are...

She might aswell be, thanks to Big Dawg Mr. C.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Day 5
Post by: LadyM on January 13, 2008, 12:20:28 pm
I feel so used.  :'(

You might as well focus on getting rid of Trolls during the night phase and not waste it on me if you want a quicker victory.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 3
Post by: Oviraptor on January 13, 2008, 02:34:44 pm
By the end of the day, it was clear that Luminar would be banned. And he was. He was the Philosopher for the Forum Members.

Night 5
Night end (max): 8:00 PM EST Monday 14, 2008

If you have powers you want to use, now would be the time to send them. The Trolls will now convene and decide who to delete during the night.

Unless the Mafia perform idiotically, there is basically no way any other side can win. It's up to you guys if want to keep the game going or not.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2008, 02:40:48 pm
*sigh*

Really people? Why do you let her play you all like fiddles?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: Oviraptor on January 13, 2008, 02:43:51 pm
^See new edit^
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2008, 02:44:21 pm
Let's just end it, no reason to drag this out for another week.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: LadyM on January 13, 2008, 03:28:05 pm
I'd like to at least finish the night phase and see what twisty things happen.


Patman rosin up your bow and play your fiddle hard.
'Cos hells broke loose in forums and the devil deals it hard.
And if you win you get this shiny fiddle made of gold.
But if you lose, the devil gets your soul.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2008, 04:20:19 pm
Technically speaking I get the last laugh but I'm somewhat agitated and don't feel like going on with it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: LadyM on January 13, 2008, 04:35:28 pm
Well, as hopeless as it is for the forum, I'd still like to see what the morning brings. It's pretty obvious that they will just pick all of us off one by one since there is no hacker that can change anyone else. I want to see how the sneaky little trolls will play their powers tonight.

It's basically you, me, Yossi and TTT left. If they can kill two hackers in one night it will be over. But which two?



Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Oviraptor on January 14, 2008, 06:00:01 am
Well, no one is posting here anymore, and the Mafia probably aren't stupid. So let's just end this.

Final deletion: PatMan33

Complete list of people and their roles

Starting RoleEnding Role
Big Cat7 who ate 9
Kung-Fu Masterblitzonator
1337 HackerBrandonazz
AdminCeldur
DeaconClockwerk
GodfatherKrakow Sam
Royal [MT]LadyM
ModeratorLualmoba
PhilosopherLuminar
AgentMetallicDragon
Imposter [BG]Mr. ConsiderationNanny [BG]
Necromancerneoadept
ModeratorNeoteric
NannyPatMan33None
GrammarianPerson21
PalookaPlank of Wood
NitpickRhodix
Whispershadowlord18
EntThe Time TravellerEnt
Moderatorunlamp/Cobra
ModeratorYokto
DeaconYossitaru

Blue = Forum Member
Red = Troll
Green = Hacker
Purple = Forum Rat
[MT] = Me Too
[BG] = Big Dog

Spreadsheets showing entire game: (click to enlarge)

Day:
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Day.png) (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Day.png)

Night:
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Night.png) (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Night.png)

I hope you guys had fun. There were a few things that I hadn't planned for, namely PatMan33 (the Nanny) being "Reciprocated" by Luminar's power. What made it more complicated was that Pat's role was stolen in the same night by Mr. Consideration. Thinking back on it, the correct action should probably have been to kill Pat, since that's what happens if the 1337 Hacker targets the Nanny. Either way, it was definitely a nice learning experience, I just wish I could have seen the 1337 Hacker and Necromancer roles in action. :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 14, 2008, 06:22:26 am
That was a good game. I kind of wanted to keep it going to see what patman and the time traveler would do.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Night 5
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 14, 2008, 06:23:35 am
Woop! Mafia is Win!

And I would say it was largely thanks to Patman totally churning up the townsfolk with his crazy rants.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Celdur on January 14, 2008, 07:05:59 am
ok..so no one protected me at night 2...smart move...>_>
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 14, 2008, 07:18:29 am
OK this game made no sense to me. None at all.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: MetallicDragon on January 14, 2008, 07:32:20 am
The one time I use my Agent power on someone who is actually investigated, by three people no less, and all the powers just bounce back >_<
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 14, 2008, 07:34:02 am
Well we did the right move as he was the 1337 Hacker :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 14, 2008, 08:47:39 am
I really enjoyed this game, and my first game as a Mafia!

I thought I played really well. Would it interest everyone to have access to the Mafia forum? Might provide some fun insights. Am I allowed to do that?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Person21 on January 14, 2008, 09:07:56 am
Great game everyone.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: PatMan33 on January 14, 2008, 11:16:30 am
Good fun! Glad to have played with you all! :)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Clockwerk on January 14, 2008, 01:57:31 pm
Good fun! Glad to have played with you all! :)

I should of listened to you. :-\

All well.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: eropS on January 14, 2008, 02:01:45 pm
Um.. New game?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Clockwerk on January 14, 2008, 02:34:34 pm
Um.. New game?

Yeah!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: PatMan33 on January 14, 2008, 02:40:01 pm
Not quite yet...

The next game is still under construction.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 14, 2008, 02:42:41 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Oviraptor on January 15, 2008, 03:13:47 pm
I really enjoyed this game, and my first game as a Mafia!

I thought I played really well. Would it interest everyone to have access to the Mafia forum? Might provide some fun insights. Am I allowed to do that?

Knock yourselves out:

http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=ovismafiaboard (http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/index.php?mforum=ovismafiaboard)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Brandonazz on January 16, 2008, 02:11:14 pm
Damn, is there anyone who didn't figure me out on the first day?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: PatMan33 on January 16, 2008, 02:12:19 pm
I had no idea who you were, you told me. :P
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Brandonazz on January 16, 2008, 02:15:58 pm
I was already as good as dead.  ::)
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: blitzonator on January 16, 2008, 02:29:29 pm
Damn, is there anyone who didn't figure me out on the first day?
I supected mafia. I even went to use my power but changed my mind.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Brandonazz on January 16, 2008, 05:43:19 pm
This entire setup seemed to conspire against me.

The only person I wanted to bargain with was my sworn enemy, and my standard vote was an ent.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Luminar on January 16, 2008, 06:31:43 pm
Like I said, you picked the absolute worst possible choice of words. The only thing that might have been going for you in that situation would have been to play it to Yokto's tactic of very loudly and obviously going "OKAY GUYS DON'T VOTE FOR THIS GUY EVEN THOUGH I'M VOTING FOR HIM, YOU GUYS ALL KNOW WHY, RIGHT?" but that'd have required you to know.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Brandonazz on January 16, 2008, 06:37:19 pm
We always seem to have 20/20 vision in hindsight.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 16, 2008, 06:51:53 pm
Like I said, you picked the absolute worst possible choice of words. The only thing that might have been going for you in that situation would have been to play it to Yokto's tactic of very loudly and obviously going "OKAY GUYS DON'T VOTE FOR THIS GUY EVEN THOUGH I'M VOTING FOR HIM, YOU GUYS ALL KNOW WHY, RIGHT?" but that'd have required you to know.

That move confused me, when i finally understood it was to late.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 16, 2008, 07:04:09 pm
Actually i was a bit surprised that the good guys did not seem to figure out my move.  The chance of me voting for the Ent by random where very slim. And i said in that post that i knew who i was voting for.

Just to make sure a gave out a lot of hits as people did not seem to understand my move. But i had to keep them cryptic so that the trolls would not figure it out.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Luminar on January 16, 2008, 07:40:14 pm
Be honest now, just about any tactic like that based around the celebrity is going to be figured out or upended pretty damn quickly.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 17, 2008, 06:30:52 am
Well it was a interesting vote.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Luminar on January 17, 2008, 07:31:41 am
Interesting does not always equate to clever. The whole point of the celebrity is that it's a trap for the mafia to fall into... if you go and spring it on nothing it kind of negates it. =(
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 17, 2008, 08:54:12 am
However. You wrong. Celebrity can be use for more then one thing. And my move did provide information. I do not regret it.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Luminar on January 17, 2008, 08:54:13 pm
Yeah, provided information of who the celebrity is to the mafia...
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 18, 2008, 06:41:34 am
Hay if they figured it out before you then is not my fault. They had less to go with then you. (In this case.)



But i did see they figured it out. Did any of the none trolls figure it out early? Or is just collective wisdom more powerful? Anyway we did not lose because of my move. We lost because we had nothing to protect us. Celdur did a great job and the only once that recognized it seemed to be me. I am supriced that no one tried to protect him.

Anyway i have some new ideas that can help me in the next game. This game for all is flaws gave me a lot of information. All the things i did will benefit me in the next game i believe.



btw Luminars. A quote form there forum
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And I think Luminars post confirms beyond all doubt that HelloWorld is the Ent.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: blitzonator on January 18, 2008, 07:07:05 am
I forgot to say sorry for my Enet breaking. I like how you supported me as innocent when I was gone though. I will stay online next time!
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on January 18, 2008, 07:21:25 pm
I wish TTT did something like sraw suspicion to himself to make trolls vote for him.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Brandonazz on January 18, 2008, 08:48:22 pm
His existence foiled the hacker. Is that not enough for you?
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Yokto on January 18, 2008, 11:57:45 pm
Well it is for me as i wish to get the hacker out of the way as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: Oviraptor's Forum Mafia Game -- Game Thread -- Trolls Win
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 19, 2008, 02:13:16 am
I wish TTT did something like sraw suspicion to himself to make trolls vote for him.

We knew he was a Hacker.....but he couldn't achieve anything so we were happier allowing him to muddle onwards until the townies eventually took it upon themselves to hang him.