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Spore: General / Re: EA Responds Again to DRM
« on: September 19, 2008, 12:50:35 pm »
Quote from: whistlinjoe
Who is gonna hire a security guard that snoops through your house, eats your food and still lets people come and by and steal all your things on a regular basis?
I love that analogy, it's perfect :D

Quote from: EA
But we’re hoping that everyone understands that DRM policy is essential to the economic structure we use to fund our games and as well as to the rights of people who create them. Without the ability to protect our work from piracy, developers across the entire game industry will eventually stop investing time and money in PC titles.
Apparently they're never heard about StarDock (or don't want to hear about it).

Spore: General / Re: The Spore Screen
« on: July 08, 2008, 04:46:32 pm »
I'd buy this one:

1680 x 1050 widescreen (20"), 3000:1 contrast ratio, and 2ms response time (important for smooth animation in games).

But a big, high-res screen may be a waste if your video card can't handle Spore at that resolution.

Spore: General / Re: updated...
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:36:59 am »
Nice!!! I love the new website.

But for some reason Sporepedia's formatting is all messed up on Firefox here (sorry if this has been mentioned before, I didn't read the entire thread yet).

Spore: General / Re: The Size of the "creature" and spore editor!
« on: June 09, 2008, 11:35:26 am »
True, if rewritability is absolutely necessary, it's better to get a 20 cent floppy over a 40 cent CD-RW. Though personally I'd choose a 15 cent 700 MB CD-R (only name brands cost $.20+ each) over a 20 cent 1.44 MB floppy any day. In addition to being more reliable, etc., there's so much space if I make a mistake and burn the wrong 1.5 MB file to the disk, I'll just delete it and reburn the correct file, and I'll still have 697 MB left over.

Spore: General / Re: The Size of the "creature" and spore editor!
« on: June 09, 2008, 10:59:00 am »
But you might not have all that data at once, especially if they were text files.

You don't need to have all the data before you write. Even with a CD-R / DVD-R, you can always add additional files at any time later on (unless you force it to finalize, which is similar to flipping the read-only switch on a floppy, unless it's permanent). And with good burning software, you can delete and modify files even on a CD-R / DVD-R, although you won't regain the storage used by the old files.

You can easily get a 1 GB USB flash drive for $6. Or an 8 GB one for $25 (that's about $3 per GB). For all practical purposes new technology like this is making floppies obsolete. Even handing out floppies in class will become obsolete soon IMO. For example it's cheaper for me to buy a $6 1 GB USB flash drive (that holds more than 711 floppies) than to buy a USB floppy disk reader for my floppy-less laptop. And if the media will be discarded (as in being given to the teacher for grading, etc.), CD-R's would be ideal. Cheap, compact, reliable, more than enough storage space, etc.

Spore: General / Re: The Size of the "creature" and spore editor!
« on: June 09, 2008, 10:41:48 am »
Floppies do have one advantage over CD-R's/DVD-R's: they are rewritable. So instead of chucking it after it's been used you can just erase whats on there and put something new on. I still prefer USB storage, but floppies have their place.
Which is why CD-RW's, DVD-RW's, and USB flash drives exist, still at far better price-per-MB rates (far far far better). Not to mention all the other advantages (reliability, read/write speed, etc.).

You could also say that since a single $0.25 4.7 GB DVD-R has 3342 times more storage space than a floppy, the need to erase and rewrite data becomes almost obsolete for most practical purposes.

Spore: General / Re: The Size of the "creature" and spore editor!
« on: June 09, 2008, 10:29:32 am »
I just can't see the justification of dumping Floppies, those flash drives aren't cheap, nor are CD-R's when compared to Floppies, 10 pack of floppies is like $2.00, that's like $0.02 for each one, a heck of a lot cheaper then a $40.00 flash drive or $20.00 for a stack of CD-R's.
$2.00 / 10 floppies = $0.20 per floppy, not $0.02.

I don't know where you live, but in the US you can get a 100-pack of 4.7 GB DVD-R's for under $25, and a 100-pack of 700 MB CD-R's for under $20. That's < $0.25 per DVD, or < $0.20 per CD. That's not only competitive to the price of the 1.44 MB floppies you mention per unit, but when you consider that it holds ~3342 times more data, you'd honestly have to be just a little crazy to even remotely hint that floppies are still a good buy. Even assuming you could get floppy disks for 10 cents, a DVD-R still gives you roughly 1330x the storage per dollar.

Honestly I think you're a little too accustomed to using small storage devices, and you don't quite get how useful a large storage device / media can be. You say that because Spore creatures are so small, it would be wasteful to use a CD / DVD. That's ridiculous. For 25 cents, you can store every single creature and building you could possibly every create in Spore on a single multisession DVD. This DVD will last you years if you keep it safe.

Similarly, if I make a 20 KB document and I want to back it up, I just plug in my 1 GB usb flash drive and transfer it within seconds (unlike slow, noisy, unreliable floppy disks). I rarely use over a few hundred MB, but sometimes the 1 GB comes in handy, especially when you have over 1.44 MB of documents to back up (and this happens quite often if you like to keep a lot of stuff backed up). And for the price you can get them for now ($5.99 for a 1 GB drive is not at all uncommon right now), anyone can afford them

Not to mention the unreliability of floppy disks. I have a few floppies from several years ago with my old documents / work / etc., and there are so many sector problems and read failures, 90% of the content on them are totally lost forever.

Sorry if I sound too harsh, but floppy disks are so incredibly out of date it amazes me that anyone would still use them voluntarily.

Seems like what he says is true.
Although i have a hard time to believe about the underwater part.
Maybe the developers do read forums and decided to put it back in.
Well we know they do read the forums. The question is if they did decide to do the underwater phase, why would they keep it a secret?

I doubt it's in, but still it's interesting to hear.

you can stay in the water as an underwater race if you wanted.
Wow. I wonder if this is actually true, or just a misunderstanding (if the whole thing's not a fake, that is). Sure would be a surprise to learn that underwater races were in :)

Spore: General / Re: Spore Expansions
« on: April 02, 2008, 08:37:58 am »
My ideas would involve expansions to the space phase mainly, because that's when most players will end up spending a lot of their time. Expansions, like extra missions, new things to discover and explore, and new dynamics. For example:

Ancient Civilizations
Adds the ability (if not already) to discover ancient cities, in ruins, and maybe salvage some of their technology, usually on a planet with tribal-stage creatures. Various ruins and monuments from the distant past could also be found on some planets, like ancient pyramids, etc.

Galaxy Wars
An expansion of space-scale battles, allowing full-scale space battles and combat, including the deployment of vehicles and troops from dropships, etc., and exciting "front-line" battle gameplay.

(In case it's true about moons not being present), the ability to have a visitable moon.

City Life
More intricate graphical, physical, etc. detail in the city and tribal phase, allowing you to actually enter all buildings and perform various purposes (buy items, take jobs, etc.) This could be a sort of "first-person" mode of the city/tribal phases where you could experience the world in greater detail when you want a break from your position as tribe/city manager :)

There are tons of possibilities.

Spore: General / Re: New video: Space Phase
« on: February 09, 2008, 12:44:35 pm »
Did anyone else download it, without corruption problems?
I did, and it worked just fine (though I upgraded QuickTime because it was crashing on me a lot recently).

Anyway, here's a little transcript of some of the interesting parts of the video. A lot of the speech isn't very clear and it's hard to "decode" it, but I think I got most of it:

Quote from: Will Wright
As this little red dot up here is moving in the circle, what I'm really trying to do is get this in the middle of the circle where it's now habitable for primitive life. Now, as I terraform the surface of this planet, what I'm really trying to do is make it habitable and then sort-of bootstrapping a whole ecosystem on here, and that's one of the reward structures you're going through in the game.

I have some biological samples that I collected recently, but first I want to basically establish another volcano though, so I'll just... oh, I used up all my volcanoes... let's try an atmosphere generator. So this is a generator that actually pumps atmosphere... and then maybe something, maybe a meteor shower. So this will be a combination of things. A lot of what I want the player to do is be able to basically play around with the planetary ecosystems and get a sense of the underlying structure and how that works. So now I'm (?ing) a meteor shower which I've cued(?) up. See now we're actually in(?) the first rain here, which means I can now for the first time start dropping down some of my biological samples. I'll drop down some sort of plants on the surface... and, they'll start spreading if it's successful.

[Someone asks a question (unknown)]. Yeah, now it is. In fact it's going up too fast, and I'm about to have  way too thick an atmosphere here, so I need to go back, or else we'll have some mass extinctions here.

[Someone asks another question (unknown)]. Yeah, uh, in fact we have some really cool greenhouse ... editors(?). We're about to have a (?), so I need to go back to my terraforming tools really quick and pull my atmosphere back in the right direction. (? something about an asteroid and mass extinction ?)

I could only pick out a few words from the part about the asteroid following, so I'm still "decoding" that part.

Edit: More...
Quote from: Will Wright
Some of the other things you can do is you can actually come down to the surface and get out of your UFO ... and walk on the surface. Had you been playing the creature game, this is kind-of what you would have the planet the entire time, so you can actually kind-of move anywhere around (?) (?) this world. What's interesting at this level, we're actually still simulating all the planets' movement above, so, you can actually look up and really see the (?s) and the (?s) from this planet's point of view.

So this is... at this point of the game you've actually developed genetic engineering, which means that I can fully develop any creature I want to. This editor works very much like clay at this point, where I can kind-of stretch out my vertabrae, use the mouse-wheel to inflate/deflate parts (...)

If you pull back out to space here, ok so we've just flown to a couple of stars here, now one of the things you want to be doing at this level of the game also is trying to contact intelligent life. As we move the mouse around, we're actually hearing the radio telescope return from that star, so we're actually playing the SETI game here, um.. and we're actually... so this one we're actually hearing alien radio chatter from some intelligent race from that star. So as we fly over there we can actually encounter an alien species which was created by another player. Um, this is their world, they want to talk to us, we can (... next words not clear due to the alien talking). And there's a whole thing about meeting these alien races, where you be trading partners, allies, they have colonies on other worlds, uh, also as players are kind-of moving around in this galaxy, we want them to encounter all the things they might see in Hubble images...

We really have millions and millions of totally unique worlds here, I mean, every world you go to here will be unique, every creature you see will be unique, every plant, every... everything. Eventually, we see the player on this epic quest toward the center of this galaxy, and it takes quite a while to get there, um... and we've got a lot of things hidden along the way. Let me give you a sense of... if you go to just the right spot in the galaxy, and this is kind-of hard to find, it's kind-of way out on the spiral arm, and we zoom into this one star (zooms into Earth). Well basically, I don't know how I expect the player to find this, but if they go to just the right spot, someone's gonna eventually find Earth, our outer system. You can go in, and we have these little terrain maps for these planets, and now practice terraforming Mars, or whatever you want to do, so we have that as well.

Spore: General / Re: New video: Space Phase
« on: February 09, 2008, 08:03:25 am »
I've been to enough different galaxies to know that some of them are blobs, some are a couple spirals all intersected etc.
Wow. What kind of space-ship do you have? ;D

Anyway, I think since Spore gives you just one galaxy at a time, it will always be the spiral type, which has almost become a logo for Spore. The galaxy may be procedurally generated though (with variation from computer to computer), but there's really no way of knowing that for sure. Considering that Earth is located in a specific location in the galaxy that Will Wright was able to access through cheat codes, I'd guess that the galaxy is procedural, but with a fixed seed (not randomized). However, given the vastness of the Spore universe and the number of stars available, there's definitely no need to worry about a lack of unique content or stars.

Basically, I think (and hope) Spore will have one and only one unique galaxy between all players. This way it just seems more "realistic", in that you're exploring the "Spore galaxy", and the possibility of encountering other Spore creatures is not only possible, but probable. Otherwise if every player had a galaxy of their own, I'd feel somewhat "alone" in my own galaxy.

Spore: General / Re: New video: Space Phase
« on: February 08, 2008, 06:03:16 pm »
MasterChiToes: Yeah I see the depth now. Cool ;D ;D

Spore: General / Re: New video: Space Phase
« on: February 08, 2008, 04:28:41 pm »
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the map - it's just different. In most ways it's a way better than it was (I like the transparent circular guide - it really helps when judging distance and scale).

Anyway, I love what I see in this new video. I certainly have no doubt that Spore will live up to my expectations. The only downside to any new information like this is that the excitement makes waiting even harder :)

SpeedOfTimePercent = 100 / (NewSporeVideos+1)^2

Spore: General / Re: New video: Space Phase
« on: February 08, 2008, 03:20:26 pm »
Sure it looked a bit flat but consider our galaxy is so big that looking at it from the side it would be like looking at a coin from the side
I know, but I still kinda like the old way. For some reason it just seems like there's a lot more stars when they're not so much constrained to a flat plane (and if they do have variation of height, I couldn't see any).

There were definitely stars that were above and below the galactic plane... just not many of them (that we could see anyway).
I think those are from distant galaxies, so you wouldn't actually be able to visit them since AFAIK Spore gives you just one galaxy to explore at a time. So in this case they're probably nothing but a background image (notice how they don't really move or gain distance as he zooms out all the way).

I guess they flatted it out a bit to make it more accessible since people aren't  used to moving around in 3D maps.
Yeah, that makes sense. It would be really easy to get lost in a 3D starmap.

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