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Spore: General / Re: (Almost) Free Atmopshere Generators in Space Stage
« on: September 09, 2008, 11:00:06 pm »
the red dot needs to go into the center.

Basically more atmossphere makes it go up, less atmosphere down. highere temperatur to the right, less temperature to the left.

When it enters a ring, you need to stabilize that ring. big t1 plant, middel t1 plant, small t1 plant then herbivore-carnivore-omnivore you can also use just herbivore and then omnivore. to fill out the blue rings.

next levels has needs other creatures.

I think that you can hit level 3 then stabilize with t3 plant and creatures...and skip the other stages.
Plants/animals do not have tiers. Each tier needs any small, medium and large plant, two herbivores and a carnivore or omnivore. You cannot stabilize a higher tier until a lower tier has been stabilized. If you use the tools to bring a T0 planet to T3 before adding any plants or animals, the outer ring will turn yellow, and the two inner rings will turn red. You cannot turn a ring green until it is yellow, which does not occur until the ring before it is green.

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Spore: General / Re: your rating of spore
« on: September 08, 2008, 03:49:34 pm »
If you do not play the damn game like a sandbox then sorry, you are playing it in a way that it was not quiet intended. For me, I always see if something works then I do not think it should...like keeping your cell parts throughout the creature stage and so on. Overall, many people we be disappointed not because Will Wright failed to give you a great game, but in the end you failed to make it one.

Quote for truth.

And don't give me the "There is no right or wrong way to play the game!"  Try playing twister with the game tacked to the celling...games have a right and wrong way to play, period.
Public forums reinforce my belief in this study. If you have to "make it [a fun game]" then the game is not so hot. Great games suck you in and take you for a ride; even open ended games like The Sims. Your Twister analogy is poor. Twister instructs you to play the game in a particular way, via an instruction booklet. Video games too must be designed in such a way that they instruct you, formally via a tutorial, or informally, via intelligent game play mechanics. If the player is unsure of how to play a game 'the right way' then something is surely amiss.

I give the game a 7.5 or so. It's fun for sure, but I'm not sure how long the novelty will last. The procedurally generated content is amazing, and Spore will surely have its place in gaming history. However, I suspect it will be remembered more for the advent/popularization of procedurally generated content, rather than as one of great games of all time.

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Spore: General / Re: Not what you expected? are you serious?
« on: September 08, 2008, 03:34:08 pm »
I like the game myself, but the argument, "Hey guys, Game X will be the game we wanted after patches A, B and C, along with expansion packs Y and Z, are released," is a horrible argument.

A product is judged as it is, not as it could be, or will be two years down the road.

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Spore: General / Re: Post Your In Game Graphic Settings!!
« on: September 08, 2008, 03:31:36 pm »
Maxed at 1680x1050

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Spore: General / Re: What Happened?
« on: September 07, 2008, 10:24:43 am »
Now first off, I am not a 'troll'. I think I should have the right to post my opinion whether you agree with it or not, I am not posting this to wind anyone up or get a reaction, this is just how I feel.

Anyway, I picked the game up Friday (UK release date) and to my disappointment my fears of what the game had turned into over the past year of development, were true.

I was extremely excited over the prospect of Spore the day I saw this video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nejN-umj824&feature=related

It's the presentation from E3 2006.

Here you can see a much 'grittier' realistic Spore. Blood sprays when an animal is bit, and the creature even strikes the opposing creature with his tail. The game is released and what do we get? 'Pokemon-like attack skills'; predetermined animations were the creature just lunches at the opposing one which results in some 'points' being deducted from health. No blood, no disfigurement, the creature doesn't even have to connect with the other to cause damage. The visuals are more pleasing in the 2006 version, darker more life like colours, not the goggle eyed, brightly coloured almost 'cute' creatures that you'd expect to see on a Nintendo game that we're left with in the release version.

If you skip to 6:50 on the video, you can actually see the creature clasp its jaws around the dead animal and attempt to drag it away. What do we get on release day? Your creature 'magically' produces neatly stacked steaks upon a silver platter.

It's a joke.
A lot of the stuff you mention requires smooth animations. I suspect the early demos of the game were not using procedurally generated animations, even if the developers indicated they were. Rather, they built the animations specifically for their demonstrations hoping that they could get their procedurally generated animations to look as sharp.

All you have to do is look at other animations that are procedurally generated and notice how crude they are, to understand why, for example, creatures do not need to actually hit another creature for an attack to count as a hit.

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Spore: General / (Almost) Free Atmopshere Generators in Space Stage
« on: September 06, 2008, 12:30:39 pm »
Just thought I would share this with people who might find it useful. It might be a very minor spoiler, but I'm only referring to the tutorial part of the space stage, so it's not much of one.

Upon taking off into space for the first time and contacting your home planet you'll be given some options for what you want to try doing. If you select "I want to expand my empire" you'll be given an Atmosphere Generator and instructions to fly to a specific planet and use it. Take this generator and use it on a planet, any planet except the one you're instructed to use it on. Next, return to your home planet and make contact, inquire about the mission and inform them that you need another Atmosphere Generator. They'll give you another one for 1,000 Sporebucks. That's a whole lot less than 150,000 Sporebucks they normally cost. Use the Atmosphere Generator on another planet you want to terraform, then rinse and repeat. I have only done this four times, but thus far it continues to work.

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Spore: General / Re: The User Reviews Thread - Post your review of SPORE
« on: September 05, 2008, 11:00:28 am »
I've only made it through the first three stages so far.

The cell phase was entertaining, but I can imagine the novelty wearing off. The creature stage, while it lacks depth, was thoroughly enjoyable. Walking around the planet lets you stumble on all sorts of different species, which I thought was cool. The tribal stage, the last one I've played thus far, was horrible. It really lacks depth and scope, and the pathfinding and AI is so poor that it becomes aggravating trying to make your units do things as a group.

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Spore: General / Re: Bad ratings from german magazine
« on: September 01, 2008, 12:00:29 pm »
No one reviewing the game before it's even been released will have played it enough to rate it properly.

On the flip side, it's entirely possible these ratings are accurate, or even too high. Having never played the game, it's rabid fanboyism to suggest this isn't a possibility.

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Everything Else / Re: New Steve City
« on: August 18, 2008, 10:21:18 pm »
I added a park. I like parks.

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Everything Else / Re: Bejing Olympic games
« on: August 18, 2008, 10:18:48 pm »
Phelps wins 8 gold medals!
Hmmm..is it just me or are they not showing any teams but the US in team sports? (soccer, water polo, basketball, etc.)

Actually I haven't even seen soccer on yet...And dammit I want to watch some Hungarian water polo.
What do you think people in the US want to watch? Countries other than the US? Or soccer, which is a sport the US has little interest in? NBC airs what people are most interested in seeing. If you want to see the other sports, NBC has 6 other channels they are airing the Olympics on. If you have cable, you might get some of those channels. Also, you can watch almost anything you want live, and some other stuff afterwards on demand, at nbc.com
*Distinctly remembers Hungary showing plenty of non-Hungarian countries competing.
* Kaze notes that Hungary doesn't have 596 athletes at these Olympics.

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Everything Else / Re: Georgian War?
« on: August 16, 2008, 10:55:05 pm »
Russia reasserted its regional dominance quite effectively, and showed the US and the rest of the west for what it's becoming; less relevant. I gather this was the real motive behind their military response to Georgia's push into South Ossetia, and the ensuing escalation.

Irrelevant wouldn't be a bad place to be though.

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Everything Else / Re: Bejing Olympic games
« on: August 16, 2008, 10:22:29 pm »
Phelps wins 8 gold medals!
Hmmm..is it just me or are they not showing any teams but the US in team sports? (soccer, water polo, basketball, etc.)

Actually I haven't even seen soccer on yet...And dammit I want to watch some Hungarian water polo.
What do you think people in the US want to watch? Countries other than the US? Or soccer, which is a sport the US has little interest in? NBC airs what people are most interested in seeing. If you want to see the other sports, NBC has 6 other channels they are airing the Olympics on. If you have cable, you might get some of those channels. Also, you can watch almost anything you want live, and some other stuff afterwards on demand, at nbc.com

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This is a bit like the official release date, expcept better! Nothing can stop it now! Woooooho!
Not to be a pessimist, but the apocalypse could stop it.

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Everything Else / Re: A real fashion crime.
« on: July 17, 2008, 12:04:33 am »
Just let people dress how they want.

I don't fancy guys wearing pants around their ankles, but if that's how they want to dress it's not my business to tell them otherwise.

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Spore: General / Re: The Spore Screen
« on: July 10, 2008, 12:22:31 pm »
I've found 22'' widescreen to be the sweet spot for me.  Not too big, not too small.
Ditto. I might move up to 24" the next time I need to replace my main monitor, but much larger wouldn't work for me. I've tried playing on a 30" Dell, and it's just too big when its on a desk right in front of me.

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