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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 17, 2007, 12:26:12 pm »
BLARGH!! sorry, can't take the ignorence of this
Okay, I'll stop posting - given this is turning into the most pointless discussion I've had of late I'm somewhat glad to. Sorry if this has spammed the thread.

In fact, since taking this to PMs is largely pointless given that Khornel clearly understands nothing about the situation and doesn't show any sign of reading any sort of rational argument without just saying "no it isn't" and resorting to ad hominem personal attacks, and that my only reason for posting here was to demonstrate why the rules are the way they are, I don't think I'll bother.

Toodles. :-*

EDIT: As for parting shots, he's made his, I've made mine. Ad hominem doesn't prove who's right, but it demonstrates aptly who does and does not understand the situation.
This whole post was an Ad hominem, and what part of OTHER SERVER don't you understand?

we are allowed to watch these photos on other servers as we want to.
Meaning having nothing to do with Steve or his rules, his out of the picture.

Of course, what you still don't seem to realise is that Steve can do whatever the hell he wants on his server.
And you respond by not reading what I wrote, Grats, and then you make me look like the sinner while deamening me, some double standards.

But did that just fly over your head or something? I wasn't talking about me linking on Gaming-Steve.com at that point. I was talking about just putting them on the web.

Actually you're are the one whining

why are you always this self-righteous and wannabe moderator, get over yourself.

you really think you're better than me, don't you? And that my friend, demonstrates how much you are of the exact opposite.

I will now leave you to ridicule other people

Sorry, I will keep quiet now

I think that's a wise decision. You should at the very least go out with grace and edit out the personal remarks so you're not making a "parting shot".

Quit your whining.

nor demonstrate that you are mature enough to respect other people's rules.

Is there something wrong with you
Sorry to say, but the only difference is he is ridiculing my intelligence indirectly, atelast I did it directly, just responding to it, bad habit.
And my decision was made on behalf of smurfslayer, not Daxx, couldn't you just let me die out in peace? Without demeaning me and putting me in a bad light by editing my post?
Nobody won this argument, we were obviously not talking about the same thing.

Please delete my account

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 17, 2007, 08:40:06 am »
What I'm saying is, Gaming-Steve.com has no say in what we do on other pages, we may not include our "illegal" use of pictures in gaming-steve, but we can still suggest other legal pages ON Gaming-Steve.com, that may or may not have a link on it, to the pictures that most of us come here to see, since it is then out of Gaming-Steve.com's hands, after the second server change.

Of course, what you still don't seem to realise is that Steve can do whatever the hell he wants on his server. He makes the rules, and when he says you can't do X, then you can't do it. Quit your whining.

I'm not railing against the rules, YOU say I'm railing against the rules, when I'm actually just saying we are allowed to watch these photos on other servers as we want to, unless GI goes against it, and Gaming-steve.com's rules has no say in this, whether you'd like this or not.

Steve, as you don't seem to understand, can make exactly what rules he wants on his server. If he says you can't do X, you can't do it. Steve can stop you from posting links if he wants, and indeed he can stop you posting altogether. You are railing against the rules by making longer and longer and more asinine posts which neither prove anything nor demonstrate that you are mature enough to respect other people's rules.

And seriously, the Child Porn analogy does not stand, if it had been Child Porn, some one would've gotten hurt, and the person posting would not be banned, but hopefully jailed.
No one, and I repeat, no one will suffer from me seeing these Spore-pictures, since I can't buy their magazine anyways.
Anybody who has the chance to buy this magazine, I would say do it, since you're interested in one of their articles.

No, still stands. Copyvio still hurts people. Posting scans of a magazine's article still potentially affects their sales, despite what you might intend. Degree is irrelevant, the CP analogy is hyperbole to illustrate the point.

I mean, Jesus. Is there something wrong with you that you don't understand why you can't do this? And that nothing is going to change? You keep going on and on and on and it's starting to get boring.

You say I'm not mature enough to respect other people rules, while Steve has never said anything about the illegal YouTube vidoes that are getting linked here, and you fail to realise that I said I wouldn't do this.
It wouldn't go against his rules anyway, since he has NO say in what I print on other servers.

And then you say I'm whining? How immature is that?
Actually you're are the one whining, I'm trying to get you to understand that Steve can't say what I do on other servers.
People would see the pictures anyway, since they'd put a link in a thread, on gaming steve, to the server hosting the pictures eventually, and that would be promotion for the magazine, since people probably want to read the story behind the pictures. While you just sit and complain about how I'm gonna break the rules of a site you don't even administrate, you don't have a say in this, why are you always this self-righteous and wannabe moderator, get over yourself.

Yes, I can do this, and I'm not going to discuss this any further since you apperently just ignore what I say and take Steve as some sort of higher power and Gaming-Steve.com as a really serious community, about video-games...

And ditto on the last part, you really think you're better than me, don't you? And that my friend, demonstrates how much you are of the exact opposite.

I may not post illegal stuff on Gaming-Steve, and I'm not going to or have any intentions of the sort, I might have thought about giving people the chance to view them on MY site, without making one guy getting frustrated over PM'ing them on Gaming-Steve, which is ACTUALLY breaking the rules, there's really not much more to discuss, I will now leave you to ridicule other people not upholding Steve's law above all.

Oh yeah, and, comparing money loss to the loss of a childs life is truly ignorant, nomatter how exaggerating it is, atleast use something like film ripping, not child molestation, it's just heartless...

EDIT:
Guys, take this to PMs or make a new thread, your spamming up mine.
Sorry, I will keep quiet now

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 17, 2007, 01:06:27 am »
Well, obivously my point still hasn't really got through to tyou.

If I went into your house, let's say at a party, and I was talking to one of the guests, and I said "I have some pictures at home, if you want to see them on day?(This is a completely different story had it been Child Porn)".
Would you simply kick me out of your house?
Even if so, I can still show this person the pictures whether you like it or not, at MY house.
What I'm saying is, Gaming-Steve.com has no say in what we do on other pages, we may not include our "illegal" use of pictures in gaming-steve, but we can still suggest other legal pages ON Gaming-Steve.com, that may or may not have a link on it, to the pictures that most of us come here to see, since it is then out of Gaming-Steve.com's hands, after the second server change.

The only reason this is becomming a problem is because you want authority, is it not?
Why else haven't you removed all YouTube links?

I'm not railing against the rules, YOU say I'm railing against the rules, when I'm actually just saying we are allowed to watch these photos on other servers as we want to, unless GI goes against it, and Gaming-steve.com's rules has no say in this, whether you'd like this or not.

I don't know how much I can draw this out to make you understand, if I post a link to photobucket to show off a drawing I made, would you guys put down that link because Photobucket had illegal pictures on different albums on their website, which the viewer would have too look further in to, to see?

And seriously, the Child Porn analogy does not stand, if it had been Child Porn, some one would've gotten hurt, and the person posting would not be banned, but hopefully jailed.
No one, and I repeat, no one will suffer from me seeing these Spore-pictures, since I can't buy their magazine anyways.
Anybody who has the chance to buy this magazine, I would say do it, since you're interested in one of their articles.

This forum ain't exactly THAT big, we're a small enough community to know, that a "breach"(Which it isn't, it's more a question of morale here) in the rules, won't escalade into child porn, don't make this a bigger deal than it actually is.

What I'm saying is, I wouldn't break any rules had I done it the way I said, since it is 2 links away and thereby NON of your business, so it is now a question of morale, and since I can't support the magazine company, what choice do I have? If they didn't put the pictures on their website, see ya suckas! ;)

EDIT: By the way Feigro, I wasn't stating I wanted freedom of speech, I was just joking about how Daxx made it sound.

That doesn't mean that I'm not going to explain why we're not allowed to post things here.
I rest my case ;D

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 16, 2007, 11:30:21 pm »
I understand what you're saying, believe me.

But what I'm saying is; doing it the way I suggested, if by the 1% GI found out about it and sued, I would be the one getting in trouble, since it never had anything to do with Gaming-Steve.com.

It's Gaming-Steve linking to a legal site, like has happened alot of times, which by a forced coincedence in your thought process* happens to lead to another side, law can't tell you what to think, and I would be the one in the spot, because MY server is holding the pictures, Gaming-Steve.com is long gone in this situation.

And I would just put down the pictures after a day, no harm, no foul.

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What if i linked people to a website only saying "2+2= myserver.com/*.html"(NO LINKS)
And then "myserver.com/*.html" would be the page with pictures, on another server.

And by the way, I'm not considering doing this, I really don't care about the pictures, I just don't see how you can't understand what I'm saying, since you keep saying it's against the rules and is for Gaming-Steve.com's protection.

Replace "Spore magazine scans" with "CP" and take another look at your argument.

Look, there's no point in arguing. This discussion or variants thereon has been had at least three times before that I remember and the answer is always the same. No matter how frequent or lengthy your posts putting across your point of view are, they aren't going to change anything. Just accept what the mods tell you and man up, not posting the scans is Steve's policy. Go somewhere else if you don't like it.

The point is not whether you're right or wrong. It's just about following the rules.
Really really sorry to ask, but what is CP? Just looked it up, if you're talking about Child Porn, you've got to be kidding me? You seriously can't compare pictures of a game, to pictures that ruins a childs life, that's taking it too far.

And if you look through what people have said, apperantly it's been done before without problems, so why make one of it now? Because it caught your attention, isn't that alittle late?
"Just accept what the mods tell you and man up"? Haha, sorry, but I can't take that seriously :-\ Fight for the freedom of speech on an online-forum...! Wtf?

How self-righteous can you be? Go report the rest of the scans and YouTube vids, why don't you?

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 16, 2007, 10:43:16 am »
I understand what you're saying, believe me.

But what I'm saying is; doing it the way I suggested, if by the 1% GI found out about it and sued, I would be the one getting in trouble, since it never had anything to do with Gaming-Steve.com.

It's Gaming-Steve linking to a legal site, like has happened alot of times, which by a forced coincedence in your thought process* happens to lead to another side, law can't tell you what to think, and I would be the one in the spot, because MY server is holding the pictures, Gaming-Steve.com is long gone in this situation.

And I would just put down the pictures after a day, no harm, no foul.

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What if i linked people to a website only saying "2+2= myserver.com/*.html"(NO LINKS)
And then "myserver.com/*.html" would be the page with pictures, on another server.

And by the way, I'm not considering doing this, I really don't care about the pictures, I just don't see how you can't understand what I'm saying, since you keep saying it's against the rules and is for Gaming-Steve.com's protection.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 16, 2007, 10:18:23 am »
Because then techniaclly, all sites could potentially break the rules, thereby making linking to ANYTHING against the rules.

Except you would be doing in with the intention of circumventing the rules.
Not really, with the intention of looking at some freaking pictures, I will stick to the rules untill they stop me from something as simple as watching pictures, seriously.
And they actually aren't doing that, they're only preventing me from doing something illegal on Gaming-Steve.com, which I'm not doing.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 16, 2007, 09:39:56 am »
What if i linked people to a website only saying "2+2= myserver.com/*.html"(NO LINKS)
And then "myserver.com/*.html" would be the page with pictures, on another server.
Thereby I wouldn't have linked to anything "containing any of the aforementioned".

We don't allow rules lawyering here, either. Don't turn into another Smileyman, please.
Please don't compare me to other people.
I could understand if we could just go down and buy the freaking magazine, but some of us can't.
I just think it's ridicolous, anyways, this can be done, because we're not breaking any rules and Gaming-Steve.com wont get into to any copyright trouble, since this site will have nothing to do with the pictures.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not just trying to start an argument here, it's just the principle of it.

9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following:
The posting of pornography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; posts or images that violate any laws; posts or images in breach of Non-Disclosure Agreements; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned. Gaming Steve administrators and moderators reserve the right to ban users for any reason and without warning.

well, you can't link to a site with them, but you could link to a site with a link to the site with them on.

No you can't. Because "providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned" is self inclusive.
Yes, you can, because you're not "providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned", you're providing links to a site, that links to another site, having nothing to do with gaming-steve anymore.
Because then techniaclly, all sites could potentially break the rules, thereby making linking to ANYTHING against the rules.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 15, 2007, 05:38:17 pm »
To all those saying that the no posting of copyrighted material is no big deal, you are wrong. It's against the forum rules and will be removed, if posted.

9. Immediate banning from the forum can result from any of the following:
The posting of pornography; discriminatory remarks which are sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, racially or ethnically offensive; excessive obscene or vulgar language; posts which discuss or illustrate illegal activity; posts or images that violate any laws; posts or images in breach of Non-Disclosure Agreements; providing links to sites that contain any of the aforementioned. Gaming Steve administrators and moderators reserve the right to ban users for any reason and without warning.

What if i linked people to a website only saying "2+2= myserver.com/*.html"(NO LINKS)
And then "myserver.com/*.html" would be the page with pictures, on another server.
Thereby I wouldn't have linked to anything "containing any of the aforementioned".
Seriously, we don't get GI in Denmark, that's bascially excluding some countries from seeing these pictures, even though it would be possible.
And as it was mentioned earlier:
As I understand it, you can copywrite an article in your magazine, but you can't copywrite pictures of someone else's intellectual property. So the articles are off limits, but the pictures are fine.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 15, 2007, 08:13:33 am »
So, he is allowed to link them?
Yeah, doesn't the rule just say something about not posting the actual pictures.


EDIT: Lol, it says you can't link to the pictures. Then go to another spore forum, link to the pictures, and link to the forum linking to the pictures, still easier then PM'ing every active user on here.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 15, 2007, 08:01:08 am »
Yeah, I'd like em in PM too, please.

Khornel: I'd like to at least try asking. Why is it pointless exactly?

He hasn't scanned 'em yet, and when he has, he's overlooking a pretty big amount of people saying "PM me" which would be bit of a mess to sort through, instead of just:

Could you put them up on PhotoBucket or something, and then link us to your gallery?
Certainly, it's not against the rules to indirectly link to scanned pictures, since they then will have nothing to do with GamingSteve.com but PhotoBucket.
Else the rules would need: "No pictures", since the link to the picture, could lead to a gallery, with scanned pictures. :-[
What we did last time this came up, was to find a Spore site that laughs in the face of copyright laws and link to their coverage.

As I understand it, you can copywrite an article in your magazine, but you can't copywrite pictures of someone else's intellectual property. So the articles are off limits, but the pictures are fine.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 15, 2007, 06:36:29 am »
Could people stop writing "PM me" since it's useless, and a stupid idea, he's just gonna end up with *amount of active users in the spore section* of "PM me" messages.

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Spore: General / Re: New laptop and Spore!!!
« on: May 15, 2007, 02:35:38 am »
My friend actually made a software to split processes among both processors, I wonder if he's gonna make it free :P
You can do that with task manager(ctrl+alt+del)
Just go to the processes tab, right click an item and choose the last option, my windows is danish, so don't know what it's called in english.

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Spore: General / Re: New Spore article in GameInformer
« on: May 15, 2007, 01:50:12 am »
Could you put them up on PhotoBucket or something, and then link us to your gallery?
Certainly, it's not against the rules to indirectly link to scanned pictures, since they then will have nothing to do with GamingSteve.com but PhotoBucket.
Else the rules would need: "No pictures", since the link to the picture, could lead to a gallery, with scanned pictures. :-[

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Spore: General / Re: New laptop and Spore!!!
« on: May 15, 2007, 01:44:11 am »
You could have posted this on the "Getting ready for Spore (and the future)" topic I made for people who are thinking of buying a new PC/laptop to play Spore and future games, I dunno if they are going to make Spore for DirectX 10 or not (which I doubt they will), the 7300 doesn't seem right to me though, remember the Graphics card RAM is not all that counts, you can have a 256MB graphics card beat a 512MB Graphics card by far if they have different clocks, etc. The RAM in a Graphics card is used for textures, etc and for games that don't use huge textures a 256MB graphics card is perfectly fine so I would recommend a 7600 or even an 8600 (I don't know if those are available for laptops yet though). As for the processor I think it will be fine since it's Dual Core. I think you'll be fine with 1GB of RAM although I would recommend 2GB for Spore (lots of procedural stuff to take care of :P). That's my 2 cents :)
Well, with the textures in Spore, I would expect it to require alot of ram in the grapics depatment, anyways, it's not very often you buy a 512 mb graphic card that lacks in every other feature.
But unless you are in need of a PC right this moment, I would wait to see Spore's final recommendations.
Else I would buy a really good computer, so you can be 100% sure when it does get released. Like:
2 GB ram
above 1.5 ghz Dual Core(From what I read, that would be 1.5x2=3 ghz ofcourse, but not all programs can use this function, so the processor ends up giving programs 1.5 ghz of power instead, but more and more programs will probably be optimzed for this, incl. Spore)
512 gb ram Grapic card(From a trusted company, never get a not-so-good graphic card, as games are gonna need more of this all the time. And Spore isn't released, so we have no idea how much graphical detail they are gonna end up giving it, you never know how good the average PC will be at the time.)

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Spore: General / Re: New laptop and Spore!!!
« on: May 14, 2007, 11:52:00 am »
Those answers is for the laptop not the pc right?

*specs*

I do not really know what my old 6600 GT have.. or even if 7300 is better?

*Husk forumet er på engelsk :D min fejl mht specifikationer, tog dem bare fra http://www.fona.dk/default.aspx?m=2&i=81&itemnumber=4406902330
Yep, I don't know about the PC though, have only heard bad things about AMD, I would recommend Intel Pentium.
I think 1 gb ram is enough, not really sure though, it would be best to just wait 'till we get the info, else I would just go for something like:
2+ gb ram
512+ gb graphic card

To be 100% sure, and you wont need to replace it anytime soon ;)
I don't really know about the processor since I have no idea what the deal is with "Dual Core".

*Tog bare lidt pis på du havde skrevet noget dansk i beskrivelsen ;D

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