Although I'd like to agree. I don't think Spore didn't anything well in the department of technology.
The only thing it managed to do was create a system of easy to use 3D editors and a system for user-created object animations.

All of which has already been done before.

As for Will Wright's new project... there is probably a reason he's keeping it closed.
If he were to tell everyone now all these hardcore gamers would get excited for what is to be just another of EA and Maxis's 'casual gamer' games. (Like Spore)

That said, I am never.... ever... getting excited over something coming from EA or Maxis ever again.

Quote from: Fumanchu on December 17, 2008, 01:55:02 pm

Quote from: papaboom on December 17, 2008, 12:58:03 pm

The second poster was correct - this proliferation of "Spore was a disappointment" threads is getting way out of hand... There should be one thread for this topic - not a thousand. 

Alternatively, it could be said the apologist threads are getting way out of hand. Depends on perspective, I guess.

Fumanchu:This is a spore fan forum.  We are supposed to be spore fans.

I think the problem here lies in the fact that everyone here are the Spore fans.... and most people are still really disappointed.

The problem Spore has is nothing you make matters.  If I stick a row of spikes down the side of my creature, other creatures can still run up and kick it around to their hearts content without getting hurt while doing so.
If you did that in Cell that meant you had an actual defense and predators would get injured if they tried to attack your armoured hide then decide you're not worth the trouble and swim off.
Same goes for everything else, it's all just a pretty avatar that makes no difference on how you play the game.

I think this sums up Spore. Nothing you make matters, and the only stage that actually simulated anything was the cell stage that lasts for about 3 minutes.
Everything afterwards was just a dumbed down game. It wasn't a sim. It didn't simulate anything.
It was just a series of editors that allowed you to move your avatars around on semi-pretty little planets.

It had no content. No gameplay. No Strategy. No concept.
Spore was a failure because the gameplay simply didn't exist or matter at all.

And that is why there are so many topics about why Spore didn't meet anyone's expectations.

Why?
Probably to make more cash off another too-soon expansion pack that allows asymmetry.

You can't just let people go around doing something for free, if you can make money off of it.
Right, Maxis?

*insert obligatory "I haven't played Spore in a long while..." statement*

I don't think wanting more is necessarily a good thing for Spore. Not in the sense which everyone means it.

While Spore can be added on, developed, and fleshed out more-so with expansions... the Core game of Spore is what it is.... which is an extremely shallow video game with some semi-deep object building programs built in.

When everyone says "I want more" in reference to Spore, it's not that they want an expansion worth a few more hours of gameplay. No, Spore needed a core gameplay element in the original game that let us all continue to play with everything we've created and have much more purpose.

And I'm not talking about something overly fleshed out to begin with.
The game is lacking a very fundamental gameplay element and relies completely on it's in-game editors.

Something so fundamental is not easily added with an "expansion pack".

Sure, Spore is a good 'video game' in what is now a very loose phrase.... but it is not a very good video "GAME", because it lacks what a great game should have.

*I waited for Spore since the very first day Spore was shown by Will Wright.
I honestly thought that with Will Wright being in charge, with his inspirations and aspirations, this would turn out to be a game I played for years.

Spore is fun. But there are many very good games out recently and more coming soon. After playing through it once or twice, I can not see how anyone can stand it much longer. There truly is no replay value to Spore as a game.
And there is relatively no point to the editors without the game. Which I personally think was Maxis's biggest mistake in design. And the lack of foresight on this element truly astounds me

Again, I know that Spore is a good game. The expansion packs I'm sure will be very fun while they last. But I simply can not imagine Spore ever being anything what any of us dreamed it to be.
It simply lacks the 'universal core' that all video games should have.
And I think it will always be as shallow as their answer to what exists at the Universe's Core.

Perhaps one day in a few years, with an expansion pack bundle for $20 or so I might pick it up again and play, remembering all those days I wasted waiting for "Will Wright's Masterpiece". And I will know that I will never be so foolish to dream such a dream from Electronic Arts, ever, ever again.

If there is one good epithome of crushed dreams, I believe EA is it.

... Some things I had to get off my chest.
I ask Maxis to feel free to prove me wrong.

Okay enough with this stupid joke. It's not funny.
SporeBuck is just making it all up for attention.... look at his posts and the responses he got.

I had already given him an answer, as did several other people, and I even numbered mine like he asked but still he later said:

I just don't know what to do. I'm so confused.

If he needs an arrow to point him towards answers to his own question, then he really needs to be in a mental hospital.
But now this just seems like a bad troll attempt...

Thank you. It was significantly lower than where I thought it was. That's probably why I never found it.

But, is the placement of Sol always the arm to the left like that, before the universe starts revolving?
Or do I just need to check each arm?

Bluelightning, the problem is not that you're complaining, but that you keep repeating the same complaints over and over again. A lot of the time you don't give the reason that you're complaining when you do either, making your "I'm not interested. I still won't buy the Creepy and Cute pack." post seem like plain trolling. So it just gets really, really annoying.

What else gets annoying, is that people keep referencing other people's posts as something that I said myself.

Anyways, I like the insect-looking legs.
It's interesting to see that they're adding limbs that aren't just blobs.

still wish they'd fix those glitches first, though.