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Spore: General / Re: Inappropriate content
« on: September 13, 2005, 04:21:12 am »
It dosen't matter how the licensing agreement or disclaimers are phrased, somebody will complain. I just gotta hope that those sharks barricudas worms lawyers that EA has will make it bulletproof.

Spore: General / Re: Inappropriate content
« on: September 13, 2005, 02:26:32 am »

The relevant quotes:

"...we formally stated that any pertinent content shipped on the game disc that may be relevant to a rating must be disclosed to ESRB, even if it is not intended to ever be accessed during game play."


"Coding around scenes, images, or similar elements that might be pertinent to a rating assignment does not render this content irrelevant from a ratings standpoint. If a publisher wishes to "edit out" pertinent content from a final product, it must remove the content from the disc altogether. If that is not feasible, the pertinent content must be disclosed to the ESRB during the rating process so it can be taken into account in the assignment of a rating."

I understand that the stuff that comes on the Spore CD will very likely be rated T, but I wonder if the ESRB will count the Phallusian Imperium among this "hidden" content, since the editor *is* shipped with the disc as a part of the game. One might think "well, nobody gets mad at Microsoft when somebody draws boobies in Paint", but that's Paint. This is a game, and we all know how uppity people get about games these days.  ::)

Spore: General / Re: Inappropriate content
« on: September 11, 2005, 03:07:06 pm »
A good example, theres a nintendo ds game that involves drawing, get a lot of people sharing the same draw space and you suddenly find yourself in an abundance of penis.

I lol'd.  ;D

Age verification, at the most, will be done at the retail counter by making the game rated M. "Age verification" by credit card is silly because you don't need to be an adult to have a credit card (at least in the USA). Also, I know plenty of parents who would likely give up the plastic "for identification purposes" if the kid said the game needed it, and not ask any questions.

Probably what will happen is you'll have to agree to a EULA that clears this kinda thing if you want to download content (as opposed to getting creatures via cd, where the cd contents will be monitored and "safe"). It'll be something like "by using the online component of this software, you acknowledge that Maxis/EA does not provide or monitor the content uploaded to our database, and you download from it at your own risk."

I'd also think that the "online experiences may vary" disclaimer will be featured right next to the rating, wherever it might appear.

Spore: General / Re: Inappropriate content
« on: September 10, 2005, 05:05:10 pm »

Ah yes, the Omnish. They tend to believe everything.  ;D

Sorry, my inner grammar/spelling nazi couldn't let it go  ;D

Spore: General / Re: Questions for the Devs.
« on: September 08, 2005, 03:51:40 am »
In response to EA owning our creatures, I highly doubt they can put such a clause in the EULA. In most cases, you'd own the copyright on the basic design of your creature, since you created it. However, the EULA can probably force you to let EA do whatever it wants with the Spore representation of your creature (i.e. use it in ads).

City of Heroes has a similar policy: the user retains copyrights to his hero, but the CoH people get to do whatever they like with the version of your hero that their software creates.

One question I'd like to ask, however, is how (if at all) the developers plan to deal with creatures that end up being identical to existing, well-known copyrighted characters. CoH gets in trouble if people make a Hulk character, on several counts (mainly 'cause they're making money off of Marvel's copyright). Will Maxis/EA get in trouble if people upload a Pikachu race?

Spore: General / Re: Inappropriate content
« on: September 08, 2005, 02:06:45 am »
Simple idea for regulating the content:

First, create guidelines for what would be considered "mature" content.

When a player is in the creature/building/item/etc. editor, have a "mature content" checkbox. If this box is checked, the object being created will be flagged as mature, and only players who have the "download mature content" option enabled will get it.

If mature content is not checked as such and uploaded anyway, then complained about, a person would review the complaint to make sure it's valid, then take action against the player (such as preventing anything from that playing being added to the database).

Also, I very much like the idea somebody mentioned about getting a little resin model or whatever of your creature. Oh, and I think it would be neat there were a utility to convert your creature's mesh/texture/animation to a standard format (i.e. 3dsmax/maya/etc.). It would be all kinds of awesome to take your creature creation, convert it, and have it fragging in Unreal Tournament after a bit of tooling.

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