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Title: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on April 24, 2007, 07:01:23 pm
I'm a complete Anglophile and you guys invented the language, after all. I need some pointers, though. I never know if I'm right when I add a u to words like atto(u)ney and docto(u)r. Is there a general rule for this?

Also, are there any words other than kerb and cheque that you spell completely differently than us? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Malt on April 24, 2007, 07:17:54 pm
The general rule of thumb for u's is to think to yourself "Can the way I say this word be modified to be many times more arrogant?". If yes, add a u.

But watch out, some u words and non-u words are very different.  For example, humor and humour different. Humor being comedy, and humour being elaborate puns with very little pay off.

Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on April 24, 2007, 07:22:50 pm
What's the deal with Theater vs. Theatre?


I spelled it with an "re" and my English teacher took points off.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Gungnir on April 24, 2007, 07:24:38 pm
Recognize is recognise. along with other words with ize in the end.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on April 24, 2007, 07:30:22 pm
One of the reasons why I love England is the comedy. I watched A Bit of Fry and Laurie on youtube this weekend, and I loved it.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 7 who ate 9 on April 24, 2007, 07:30:58 pm
Wait, Humour isn't spelled with a u? What about colour?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Devoid on April 24, 2007, 07:34:32 pm
Heh, I think Malt was making a little stab at the British there, 789. It's definitely humour and colour.

Honestly, this is one thing I'm glad changed. It was changed for good reason: The English language is confusing enough without all of the weird spellings. Tre pronounced as Ter? Just make it Ter! What's the difference between "sour" and "color?" U! The difference between "sour" and "colour?" Nothing!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on April 24, 2007, 07:42:49 pm
To... too... two... tu... no wait, that last one is Spanish.


You get the idea.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 25, 2007, 04:53:51 am
What's the deal with Theater vs. Theatre?


I spelled it with an "re" and my English teacher took points off.

Yeah Theatre and Metre and Litre are the 'English' way to spell words. Attourney has a u but doctor definitely doesn't... there isn't really a rule that I can recall... if there is one it probably has to do with the entymological roots of each seperate word and would therefore require you to be a linguist to know the correct spelling for each one. Having been brought up spelling this way it just comes naturally to me.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: p-luke on April 25, 2007, 05:00:55 am
I think I use both british and american spelling. sometimes I even spell the same word different in one sentence.
I don't really know the difference between them, as most people I speak to are also foreigners trying to speak english.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Mate0 on April 25, 2007, 05:28:51 am
Gray>Grey
Center>Centre
Color>Colour
Theater>Theatre

Thats All I can think of at this point


To... too... two... tu... no wait, that last one is Spanish.


You get the idea.

Tu is actually French (Tu=you), I  took French
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Legodragonxp on April 25, 2007, 05:40:43 am
Aluminum - Aluminium

I was always docked points on tests in school for not spelling word 'correctly'.

-Lego
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Didero on April 25, 2007, 05:44:39 am
"Tu" (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tu) seems to be a word in a lot of languages.

And which kind of spelling you use doesn't matter that much, "theater" and "theatre" both mean the same thing, it's obvious what is meant. I doubt anyone is going to even mention it if you spell it either way.

I do have Firefox's spellchecker set to "English / United Kingdom", but that's just because I live closer to the UK than to the US :)


Aluminum - Aluminium

-Lego
Either way is hard to pronounce :)
I don't think much people will notice that extra 'i', as they just look at the word globally, and not letter by letter. And again, both spellings have a clear, identical meaning. It's not like they could mean something else without the 'i'.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: p-luke on April 25, 2007, 06:11:29 am
Never seen aluminum before.. it actually does sound different.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Devoid on April 25, 2007, 08:04:09 am
Gray and Grey always messes me up. I always see it both ways, and use it both ways. I can't even make up my mind as to which I like better.

And "aluminum" is MUCH easier to say than "aluminium." Taking out that extra syllable was the best thing we ever did.  :)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Uroboros on April 25, 2007, 08:12:05 am
Most of the spellings are considered correct, just valid alternates.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Lord Janos on April 25, 2007, 08:15:46 am
Just spell the American way... the English way is so illogical.  I'm not a huge patriot as you have probably figured out!  American English is much more sensible than standard English, and I often wonder at how stupid some of our words are, and why American English isn't embraced as an evolution of standard English.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 25, 2007, 08:46:23 am
Hey.. here's one for you all.

What did the american teacher say to the english teacher?
"NO U!"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: GrapeFruit on April 25, 2007, 09:57:38 am
The English language is confusing enough without all of the weird spellings.

Actually, I think it's terribly easy (specially compared to German)


Aluminum - Aluminium
And "aluminum" is MUCH easier to say than "aluminium." Taking out that extra syllable was the best thing we ever did.  :)
Too much simplification, that's just not the same thing any more.
It's not that you'll die of exhaustion every time you say aluminium... ::)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Cool AN on April 25, 2007, 10:44:07 am
English, I would say, is easier in terms of grammatical rules. English has about six billion times more words though.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on April 25, 2007, 11:05:16 am
What's the difference between "sour" and "color?" U! The difference between "sour" and "colour?" Nothing!


They sound very different don't they? Sour is pronounced like Ow when u hurt urself, but with an s on the front and an err like when ur thinking. And colour is pronounced cull-or

Edit: wait I get what ur saying now

Edit: Not that I agree, I love our language to be weird. And what the hell is with aluminum. It doesnt even sound the same. It sounds stupid.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on April 25, 2007, 11:20:51 am
The general rule of thumb for u's is to think to yourself "Can the way I say this word be modified to be many times more arrogant?". If yes, add a u.

maybe you should visit Britain, ignore stereotypes and not make any assumptions before you say stupid things like that, were just people, we dont sit down all day thinking to ourselfs . . . .

"*Scoff* those Americans, *Scoff* color, *pompus laugh* Aluminum *laughs again*. . . . . . . . . .  i like tea and crumpets.. . . . . . . . . . I want some tea and crumpets, i can't wait to eat them with my oversized and yellow teeth."  *beats wife*

the key is pronunciation, Data is pronounced Day-ta and so on.

also their are alot of different names for things, the most obvious being things like a car trunk is called a boot but their are some more difficult ones like a tire iron is called a wheel brace.

i think its stupid how some people with accents react to people not knowing what they mean because of their accent, i was in denmark a while ago and the owners of a shop their spoke beautiful English, completely fluent, but they had a bit of trouble understanding what a british woman from Hull wanted when she asked for a post card.

people from Hull pronounce post more like Perst that post and when the shop owner asked what perst meant the woman (rather than explaining) simply started pointed and geering at the post cards and saying "perst. . . Perst . . . . . PERST!!   PERST!!"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Uroboros on April 25, 2007, 11:23:26 am
The general rule of thumb for u's is to think to yourself "Can the way I say this word be modified to be many times more arrogant?". If yes, add a u.
maybe you should visit Britain, ignore stereotypes and not make any assumptions before you say stupid things like that
Trying to reason with a troll is a waste of energy.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on April 25, 2007, 11:42:53 am
http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/~jphb/american.html (http://www.scit.wlv.ac.uk/~jphb/american.html)

One of the better sites on the subject.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: a14gt on April 25, 2007, 12:46:56 pm
for some reason i always put tea crumpets, and bad teeth with the british. it's from harry potter and solid snake that i probably get that. though i doubt they are all like that.

aslo for reference i spell the american way...exept for grey/gray, i just realize now that i spell it both ways equally, hmm.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 25, 2007, 12:50:16 pm
Is this going to get godwin'd and subsequently locked, then? For crying out loud, one locked thread should be one more than neccecary to get you to behave. What's with this whole thing of stirring up two allied conglomerations against each other? Can't we just chill with a cool one and forget daft stereotypes?

Seriously. We're ALLIES. Mock someone who actually IS your enemy.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on April 25, 2007, 12:53:06 pm
demon = daemon

(Thanks Daemon tools for teaching me that)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 25, 2007, 12:57:03 pm
Daemon is old english, man. I mean like, really old with the thees and thous and stuff.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on April 25, 2007, 12:59:55 pm
Is it? Why does Daemon tool use it then? And Warhammer (The Golden Daemon reward)?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 25, 2007, 01:01:27 pm
Just archaic appeal, I guess. I suppose the phonetics of it are more menacing too - day-mon or dee-mon? Which sounds more imposing?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on April 25, 2007, 01:02:42 pm
I doubt Daemon is Old English. Middle English at best.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 25, 2007, 01:04:23 pm
If you're an expert on the language's history then you probably know more than I do. I just said old in the sense that the word is archaic, i'm not really much of a language buff.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on April 25, 2007, 01:05:25 pm
Ah, alright then  ;)

Old English is the point at which it's more Germanic than what we consider English.

Incomprehensible by the modern layman.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on April 25, 2007, 02:45:20 pm
Yeah guys, don't turn this into another stereotyping thread that has to be locked just like EVERY OTHER THREAD where the words "Britain" or "America" were mentioned.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Malt on April 25, 2007, 02:55:46 pm
The general rule of thumb for u's is to think to yourself "Can the way I say this word be modified to be many times more arrogant?". If yes, add a u.

maybe you should visit Britain, ignore stereotypes and not make any assumptions before you say stupid things like that, were just people, we dont sit down all day thinking to ourselfs . . . .

"*Scoff* those Americans, *Scoff* color, *pompus laugh* Aluminum *laughs again*. . . . . . . . . .  i like tea and crumpets.. . . . . . . . . . I want some tea and crumpets, i can't wait to eat them with my oversized and yellow teeth."  *beats wife*

Oh sorry. For a moment I guess I just forgot the complete double standard on this board. Silly me!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Uroboros on April 25, 2007, 05:07:03 pm
Oh sorry. For a moment I guess I just forgot the complete double standard on this board. Silly me!
Ever since that thread on peoples opinions on americans, it seems you've had your balls in a bit of a twist. Thing is Malt, nearly everyone in that thread admitted, hands down, that the stereotype was inaccurate, or that they really couldnt say what most americans were like. When you ask for an opinion on an entire nationality, the most common response will be a regurgitated stereotype, whether or not they actually believe in it. Those opinions were asked for, so they were given, and from the start, people knew nobody was going to like what was going to be said. But people stuck around to give a show of hands, so that the americans of the board didnt feel like we view them personally that way.

The difference is, what we spoke of, was requested, and aimed at nobody. What you did, was try to get a negative response. So just chill a little, or at least restrain yourself to the original thread. Then again, I guess your reputation of taking any excuse to make an obnoxious remark might be at stake, right?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Gungnir on April 25, 2007, 05:28:55 pm
Gray>Grey
Center>Centre
Color>Colour
Theater>Theatre

Thats All I can think of at this point


To... too... two... tu... no wait, that last one is Spanish.


You get the idea.

Tu is actually French (Tu=you), I  took French


Hah, i use all of those. And tu is french, spanish, latin, and however many other romance languages. Romance...as in roman. I take, french and latin, and took spanish (for a short time).
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Daxx on April 25, 2007, 05:29:26 pm
Oh sorry. For a moment I guess I just forgot the complete double standard on this board. Silly me!

Jesus, Malt, how long are we going to wait for that bug up your ass to die?

No-one cares what you think.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Kcronos on April 25, 2007, 07:19:30 pm
I've decided something.

The countries of this world sucks.  All the stereotypes are true.


The last resort of the intelligent is the internet.  May it restore humanity to its future glory!

(I'm not talking about the porn of course)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on April 26, 2007, 08:23:48 am
in the words of Docter Cox,

"if you took all the p0rn sites off the internet their would only be one site left and beleive me it would be called "BRING BACK THE P0RN!"


that site isn't very accurate, it says the british word for buiscit is scone when in reality we call buiscits "buiscits and a scone is one of these things. . . . .

(http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/219587/2/istockphoto_219587_scone.jpg)


that is clearly not a buiscit
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 26, 2007, 09:14:02 am
I believe you mean "Biscuit"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on April 26, 2007, 10:51:18 am
why did i spell it like that?
NVM , fixed.

the site is still wrong anyway
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Kcronos on April 26, 2007, 12:20:27 pm
Do you want to know the truth?

Due to the information age western culture is quickly assimilating.

Soon the english language won't have different spellings.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: emmet on April 26, 2007, 02:27:58 pm
Spelling is fun!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: GCool on April 26, 2007, 02:35:36 pm
If txt has anything to do with it, pretty soon all english will be 90% devoid of vowls and punctuation, except of course for ".", "!", "?" and "lol"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: /lurk on April 26, 2007, 02:40:20 pm
If txt has anything to do with it, pretty soon all english will be 90% devoid of vowls and punctuation, except of course for ".", "!", "?" and "lol"

w4t3va, kthxbai

EDIT: lol j/k
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Luminar on April 26, 2007, 05:10:45 pm
hu r u y r u h33r
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 26, 2007, 06:14:27 pm
YYURYYUBICURYY4ME
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on April 26, 2007, 06:27:32 pm
Hmm... time to close this topic?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 26, 2007, 06:28:35 pm
My post was actually a devious code.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on April 26, 2007, 08:09:15 pm
New rule for the internet:

If somebody makes a clever quip, no need to demonstrate it.

If someone has already demonstrated it, no need to re-demonstrate it. We saw it the first two times.

If someone has already re-demonstrated, move the hell on with the discussion.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: syphonbyte on April 26, 2007, 10:08:24 pm
The last resort of the intelligent is the internet.  May it restore humanity to its future glory!

We're screwed. A daemon, by the way, isn't the same thing as a demon. In modern language the only time I see it used is in computer terminology to reference a... daemon...
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: SBD on April 27, 2007, 04:41:52 am
Quote
We're screwed. A daemon, by the way, isn't the same thing as a demon. In modern language the only time I see it used is in computer terminology to reference a... daemon...

And warhammer.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on April 29, 2007, 02:53:31 pm
when I worked at a supermarket someone once bought some pitifully small purchase (Like, a pint of milk and a newspaper or something) with a cheque.

Holy British, Batman!!!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on April 30, 2007, 09:16:55 am
that is such an old lady thing to do, i see old people waiting outside the post office  at 8 in the morning, seriously, do they have nothing better to do? their pension money will still be waiting for them at noon.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: SmileyMan on April 30, 2007, 10:34:27 am
I like saying Aluminium.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on April 30, 2007, 12:54:32 pm
Al-Lum-min-ee-yum

its a nice word, i always liked the word "Jew", it just rolls of the tongue.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: SmileyMan on April 30, 2007, 01:16:05 pm
Al-Lum-min-ee-yum

its a nice word, i always liked the word "Jew", it just rolls of the tongue.

"Jews did WTC" etc.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on April 30, 2007, 01:32:35 pm
Say "I hate Juice" loud.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: SmileyMan on April 30, 2007, 01:33:55 pm
Say "I hate Juice" loud.

I see what you did there.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on April 30, 2007, 01:34:58 pm
What? Im innocent!!  ::)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Danzik on April 30, 2007, 01:37:31 pm
at 8 in the morning, seriously, do they have nothing better to do?
Nope
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on April 30, 2007, 01:38:40 pm
Say "I hate Juice" loud.

I hate Jews...


Oh! You got me! You got me!!

I'll have to watch out for you!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on April 30, 2007, 01:47:38 pm
Actually theres some difference in how you pronounce it, I asked my English teacher and he said that when you say juice the "u" sound is longer... Sounds the same to me, so whatever. At least we got a great quote from Patman:


I hate Jews...


HAHAHA!!! Now you are doomed!! We shall get you!!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Devoid on April 30, 2007, 03:39:07 pm
Doesn't sound anything like Jews. Different U, different S. Didn't fool me! No, sir. :P
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on April 30, 2007, 03:41:58 pm
S is Jews sounds like a Z. Ce in Juice sounds like a hissing S.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Gungnir on April 30, 2007, 04:00:54 pm
I hate Jews...


*runs away and puts towel on head*

I can't seem them, they can't see me, I can't seem them, they can't see me, I can't seem them, they can't see me....


Seriously though, Jews is like, Jooz, and juice is like joose. Like saying boose and booze....

<_<
>_>

Boose is a word! It's....the plural form of...well...something. Possibly the plural of Bearmanpig.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Oviraptor on April 30, 2007, 04:55:25 pm
It's the slang way of saying caboose, 'boose. ;)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Huckbuck on May 01, 2007, 12:15:53 am
It still sounds funny, and we have a nice wuote from Patman. If he ever gets irritating you just have to quote that and down he goes!!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 01, 2007, 12:00:38 pm
You wish.

Many a poor soul has tried that on me and I am forced to whip out the 'context' card.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Uroboros on May 01, 2007, 12:34:52 pm
Say "I hate Juice" loud.
*pistolwhips*
Sorry im late.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on May 01, 2007, 01:13:36 pm
i love the "I hate Juice" joke, i used it on a muslim friend of mine who insists he is Zionist.

Me: i know this may be stupid but just answer me anyway,  whats that stuff you get from oranges *mimes juicing an orange*

Jenaid: Juice?

Me: yeah, now say that you hate it.

Jenaid: I hate jews.

*akward pause*
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on May 15, 2007, 05:50:35 pm
Apparently I'm screwing this up. You don't put a U in every word that ends in -or?

I've found out that words that end in -tor don't turn into -tour in UK English.

So it's just these?

Colour
Favour
Behaviour
Flavour
Honour
Saviour
Savour
Neighbour
Harbour
Arbour
Labour

Can I also use an x for words like afflixion?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 15, 2007, 05:51:54 pm
That I can think of, yes.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 15, 2007, 05:53:10 pm
Since we're talking about language... I think I need to do another lesson on how to speak American good.

 :)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 15, 2007, 05:54:22 pm
Ha ha!
"speak American good".
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 15, 2007, 06:10:08 pm
 ;D

All for you!

Lately I've seen a lot (A LOT) of people misusing the apostrophe... are the English rules for the apostrophe the same as the American rules?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Daxx on May 15, 2007, 06:21:41 pm
Can I also use an x for words like afflixion?

Don't. Please.

Lately I've seen a lot (A LOT) of people misusing the apostrophe... are the English rules for the apostrophe the same as the American rules?

Yes; I don't think you've mangled the language that badly yet.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 15, 2007, 06:38:01 pm
I was commenting more on the fact you used 'good' instead of 'well'.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 15, 2007, 06:54:09 pm
Yeah, I did that on purpose.

Calling the language 'American' instead of 'English' should have been your first hint.


 :P
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Gungnir on May 15, 2007, 06:56:09 pm
I'm constantly correcting people about adverbs and adjectives.

I remember when my "English teacher" used revel as a noun. Something about people attending a revel. Anyway, wow...just...wow. That was scary.


But my 6th grade English teacher rocked. Rocks. Whatever.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 15, 2007, 07:04:12 pm
I'll be the first to admit that my spelling and grammar isn't perfect (You guys are lucky I'm an avid spell check user) but I know a lot of the mechanics and some of it bothers me because it's so simple to remember.


PAT'S LESSON OF THE DAY
The apostrophe denotes ownership.


The boy took the monkey's banana.
Correct

The boy took the monkeys banana.
Not correct

Who did the banana belong to? The banana belonged to the monkey.


Monkeys like to swing in trees!
Correct

Monkey's like to swing in trees!
Not correct

Who likes to swing in trees? The monkeys like to swing in trees.


Words can be made plural without an apostrophe. In fact most words in the plural form have no apostrophe.



It's not an airtight lesson but it works.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Cobra on May 15, 2007, 08:56:22 pm
I could try and find the Strong bad email that addresses the use of Apostrophes but i don't feel like watch all 171 of the episodes posted to find it.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Oviraptor on May 16, 2007, 09:04:38 am
Then we get into the plural nouns with apostrophes.

When referring to multiple monkeys at the same time:

The monkeys' bananas were all rotten.
Correct

The monkey's bananas were all rotten.
Incorrect

Otherwise, you wouldn't be able to tell whether you had one or multiple monkeys.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: syphonbyte on May 16, 2007, 11:02:29 am
Let's not forget about it's and its.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: emmet on May 16, 2007, 11:22:34 am
Jesus' penguins were yellow.
Correct

Jesus's penguins were yellow.
Incorrect

Nouns already ending in s have an apostrophe at the end of the word.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Devoid on May 16, 2007, 11:49:28 am
Wrong, Always. Both are considered correct.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: emmet on May 16, 2007, 11:58:57 am
Hm, I was brought up taught that was true. :/
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 16, 2007, 12:01:32 pm
Both are true but your sentences look silly...

What looks cooler?

Witness's

Witness'



 :P
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 16, 2007, 12:51:21 pm
No, Jesus's is wrong. You lose marks for it in GCSE english. If it was right, you wouldn't.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Devoid on May 16, 2007, 02:33:36 pm
It's one of those situations where something in speech eventually made it's way into written language. When you say the plural "Jesus," you say "Jesus-es," which is spelt "Jesus's."
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Daxx on May 16, 2007, 04:39:12 pm
It's one of those situations where something in speech eventually made it's way into written language. When you say the plural "Jesus," you say "Jesus-es," which is spelt "Jesus's."

No you most certainly do not spell it that way.

"Jesuses" is the plural. Not "Jesus's". "Something belonging to Jesus" is always "Jesus'", which is pronounced Jesus.

The only possible way I can think of in which you might write "Jesus's" would be when meaning "Jesuses", but using an apostrophe to signal that you're omitting the "e". But that would make you look stupid, because there's no obvious reason why you'd want to do that and it looks like you can't punctuate.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Cobra on May 16, 2007, 05:43:11 pm
When in doubt consult the oracle "Homer Simpson".

"I've got an R.V. we can use Flanders's."

 8) ;D
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on May 16, 2007, 07:16:22 pm
I've been brought up to think that Cobra is right. Since the man's name is Flanders, it would be correct to say Flanders' or Flanders's.

I was also brought up to pronounce it both "Flanderses" and "Flanders." Is this right?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Cobra on May 16, 2007, 10:59:53 pm
Here is the hint I'm citing Homer Simpson as my source.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Didero on May 18, 2007, 01:24:41 am
Just do it the Dutch way: change the way you spell certain words every couple of years. After a while, nobody knows how to spell some words anymore, and nobody cares, except the Dutch teacher.

Then hold a national spelling contest.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: syphonbyte on May 18, 2007, 12:32:04 pm
My name is Lucas, and things that are mine are Lucas', which is pronounced "Lucases".

Problem solved.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: emmet on May 18, 2007, 01:13:28 pm
My name is Lucas, and things that are mine are Lucas', which is pronounced "Lucases".

Problem solved.

I agree, that's why I said it.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on May 18, 2007, 01:24:00 pm
My name is Lucas, and things that are mine are Lucas', which is pronounced "Lucases".

Problem solved.

That's the way I've always done it.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 18, 2007, 05:37:49 pm
My name is Lucas, and things that are mine are Lucas', which is pronounced "Lucases".

Problem solved.

Ha! Now i know a part of your true name. Soon I will cast my vile sorceries and your soul will be undone!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: 762 on May 18, 2007, 07:39:34 pm
Alright, so now a question for Americans... Does this seem pretentious?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 18, 2007, 07:46:27 pm
No, it's just stupid.

You could be doing much more worthwhile things with your time.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on May 20, 2007, 06:30:57 am
what, rather than using a system we have used for years?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 20, 2007, 07:20:03 am
What are you talking about? Are you talking about Metric vs. U.S. customary units?

Changing over to Metric is a little less extreme than what he's doing...
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 20, 2007, 07:22:24 am
I wouldn't say its less extreme, but it has much more of a point. Imperial is a horrible system when dealing with anything other than buying fruit or DIY.

Theres a reason scientists use nanometers instead of some ridiculous fraction of an inch.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 20, 2007, 07:37:07 am
I'm no math wizard so the U.S. customary units drive me nuts.

However whenever I'm in science I always do great at the math! I mean come on, it's multiples of ten.



Multiples of twelve? Who in the hell thought that was a good idea?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 20, 2007, 07:52:09 am
A guy with six fingers on each hand.

Its interesting that our entire capacity for mathematics is defined by the number of fingers nature bestowed upon us. Its been hypothesised that if we had evolved 8 fingers or 16 then we would use an octal number system and consequently have a better understanding of binary logic and hexidecimal, which would potentially have lead to artificial computers being invented earlier in our history.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 20, 2007, 07:54:28 am
Haha! That's a cool theory.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Daxx on May 20, 2007, 07:54:37 am
I wonder whether that would have been viable from an evolutionary perspective.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 20, 2007, 08:00:35 am
I don't think there's any huge reason why it shouldn't have been. Its basically just an accident that our ancestors had five digits on each hand. I think you could quite easily do away with the pinky finger without impairing the ability of anything to function reasonably well.
Although, given the relative ease at which new digits can arise through mutation perhaps 5 is an optimum number to have and all other 'experiments' into numbers of fingers failed and were discarded by nature.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: syphonbyte on May 20, 2007, 09:32:40 am
Artificial computers were probably more restricted by technology than the number of fingers on our hands. I admit I've wanted to try experimenting by raising kids on octal, though.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brandonazz on May 20, 2007, 09:34:31 am
Ahhh, yes. Expirimenting on our children. Always a great pastime.  :)
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on May 20, 2007, 11:05:43 am
their ya go patman,

we say Maths, you say Math.

" I've got to get to Math class!" would be American,

we would say " I've got to get to Maths!"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 20, 2007, 11:07:01 am
That's news to me!
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on May 20, 2007, 11:08:27 am
their are so many tiny differences that its rediculous,

why has it changed so much anyway?
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: PatMan33 on May 20, 2007, 11:09:15 am
I blame the Atlantic Ocean.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: SmileyMan on May 20, 2007, 11:10:08 am
Wouldn't "Maths" be the correct way of saying it? "Mathematics"
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Brutus on May 20, 2007, 11:12:49 am
*blank look*
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Oviraptor on May 20, 2007, 11:29:07 am
Well, math is just an abbreviation for mathematics, so math(ematics) still makes perfect sense. Just because a word ends in an s doesn't mean the abbreviation needs to. In other words, it really doesn't matter how you say it, they both make sense in their own way.
Title: Re: I've decided to spell the British way
Post by: Cobra on May 20, 2007, 06:34:10 pm
A guy with six fingers on each hand.

Its interesting that our entire capacity for mathematics is defined by the number of fingers nature bestowed upon us. Its been hypothesised that if we had evolved 8 fingers or 16 then we would use an octal number system and consequently have a better understanding of binary logic and hexidecimal, which would potentially have lead to artificial computers being invented earlier in our history.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who has spent time contemplating this.