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Title: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on March 14, 2007, 05:11:14 pm
Primary Version: Old Galaxy

(http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1707/newgalaxyfz2.png)

Fall Galactic Version (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Test1.png)

Secondary Version: Old Galaxy

(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate10.png)

New Galaxy map in progress.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: nuclearchinchila on March 14, 2007, 05:56:26 pm
1.) I can't read whatever is next to that dot, use jpeg not gif
2.) People have tried doing this sooooooooo many times before and it never ends up working, its a great idea but everyone's races already established and it's a little hard to get everyone to pick locations that work and then there's the problem with boundaries.  I think this would've worked if we had established an RP galaxy at the very beginning.
3.) I am in no way trying to tell you this is dumb, on the contrary, I always wanted the RP locations to be on a map BUT I am saying that I don't think this will fly due to prior attempts.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Mason11987 on March 14, 2007, 06:25:22 pm
Full size version:
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8226/galaxyur6.gif
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 14, 2007, 06:55:50 pm
1. You can't read the dot because the actual image is 2700 pixels wide and tall, but for some reason auto-fit

2. I had to convert it to giv because it was like 3 MB before I did.

3. We should really try this time, Maybe everyone could list their species and the ones they contacted, and I'll make a template. Then we can debate the borders until they're right.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 14, 2007, 06:56:50 pm
This'd be a lot better as a flash, with zoom functions and functionality such as clicking coloured regions to get more info on who it belongs to and such.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kratok on March 14, 2007, 09:44:16 pm
Also we use the universe, not galaxies. I believe weve gone into quadrents so far.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 15, 2007, 03:46:01 am
No goddamn maps.

http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=7742.0
http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=3629.0
http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=3029.0

Read this:
2.) People have tried doing this sooooooooo many times before and it never ends up working, its a great idea but everyone's races already established and it's a little hard to get everyone to pick locations that work and then there's the problem with boundaries.  I think this would've worked if we had established an RP galaxy at the very beginning.
3.) I am in no way trying to tell you this is dumb, on the contrary, I always wanted the RP locations to be on a map BUT I am saying that I don't think this will fly due to prior attempts.

Also, use the search button.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 15, 2007, 10:17:39 am
i think if we tryed it wouldn't be hard and would be a valuble source of RP info, so please, just try.
also i found a better image.
(http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/626/galaxy2rc7.png)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 15, 2007, 01:12:49 pm
Remember, Space is 3D. What is one Empire existed underneath another?

Also, we already know where our Empires are. The Urshans and Auyuelcliads are very close, and beyond the Urshans are the Icthians, Forthi and Yunmuis. The Thoons are somewhere on the edge of the Urshan Empire.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 15, 2007, 01:23:14 pm
What about the Arkibals, Tropals, Wexxians ect.

Well you make a good point, but we should still amke a list of RPing races
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 15, 2007, 01:25:08 pm
I used those as examples. It is just something we agreed on at some point.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 15, 2007, 01:34:30 pm
The problem of spacial depth ins't very significant, because the galaxy we would use would probably be a spiral galaxy, not thick enough to matter. If one empire owns some space beneath another you could just mark the area as disputed. It can still work.

@Munchkin: I can't edit that image.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 15, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
Yes, this has been talked about before and rejected. It would just degenerate into someone saying that they had half the galaxy, but that's impossible because the ViS have half the galaxy, but then you remember that the Torpals are always conquering stuff, and even though the Nauceans have ascended they are still around, and the GU is one of the most powerful things at this time although the Alliance of Protectors was able to cut them down a bit, and on and on and on and on and on.....
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 16, 2007, 10:58:01 am
if you want a map make your own universe thread, and describe creatures races and history yourself, it's something i've thought about many times before.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 16, 2007, 11:17:28 am
no.

Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 16, 2007, 04:40:38 pm
A map could work if people only plot their home stars, planets. and if there is a coordinate grid!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 18, 2007, 10:31:53 am
Only for bonafide real Races that have existed for a while and can agree on thier borders and neighbours. Lets be frank, It's gonna be a pretty small map.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 20, 2007, 04:58:51 pm
Yay for abstract artistic innacurate mapping! :D

(http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9145/apjl7.png)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 20, 2007, 05:26:05 pm
The Icthians are dead. They no longer appear on maps. There are huge anachronisms there.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 20, 2007, 05:31:33 pm
What about hte 10,000 other creatures that the new people made?  And where is the AoH?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 20, 2007, 05:57:40 pm
The AoH isn't official yet, and i need a list of creatures and relative locations. "Near _____" is as much of a location as I need. And i need to know how much territory they have.

Edit: Galactic Map Update 1.01

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3629/apdk1.png)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 20, 2007, 06:29:34 pm
Seriously, don't bother. This is far more time and effort than it's worth, and you'll need to produce a veritable timeline of maps (that's leaving out the massive problem of relative territory sizes). I don't think it's ever going to be accepted as canon.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 20, 2007, 06:30:48 pm
Yeah, and then there's conflicting accounts. My KOR's territory size got to an absolutley massive extent pre-confrontation, but how many acknowledge it?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Uroboros on March 20, 2007, 06:41:26 pm
Dad?? MOM?? How the hell did you find pictures of my parents? :/
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 20, 2007, 09:30:20 pm
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3629/apdk1.png)

Grey = Torpalian Space





anyways, in more relevant matters...NO MAPS.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 20, 2007, 10:41:48 pm
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3629/apdk1.png)

Grey = Torpalian Space





anyways, in more relevant matters...NO MAPS.

And all that use to be Naucean space before they ascended. :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 21, 2007, 03:29:29 am
I think you overestimate the sice of the Wexxians terretory. and Outer-Rim and Mid-Rim terretory is on a galactic scalle with the core in the middel surownded by the mid-rim and then the outer rim. 
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 21, 2007, 03:48:16 am
The Grand Union is also the major power of the galaxy right now, and has a large territory.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 21, 2007, 04:28:04 am
personally, i like it!  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 21, 2007, 09:54:56 am
I think Brandonazz is confused. The Union/REDSTAR is comprised of the Yunimius, Auyuelcliads etc. Their territory equals the total Union territory.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 21, 2007, 10:09:57 am
most peoples emipires strech over massive galactic distances, systems can range from anything of 10 to a thousand stars and are usually suppoted by multiple artificial worlds and off world space craft.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 11:36:11 am
Well someone help me and dont criticise me then!  :P

Can someone give me a list of all races, and say which ones are a member of redstar and which ones are near eachother?

Edit: Update 1.02: empires without internationally recognized bondaries not shown, plus races I wasn't aware of  ;) :P

Also, this is primary area of influence, like home worlds and close colonies, because i don't yet know how far each race goes. I don't planet to label claims, unless uninhabited.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6871/galaxy1ln5.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6871/galaxy1ln5.jpg)

Use the link because you cant read names when it's resized  ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 21, 2007, 12:33:13 pm
Grey = Torpalian Space
And all that use to be Naucean space before they ascended. :P

Not content with being all over the damn forums as it is, I see.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 21, 2007, 12:40:52 pm
You missed the arkibals from that map and they have played a latrge part in some recnt RPing.
You've also extremely misjudjed some sizes on that, and most empires are not circular.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 12:43:17 pm
Like I said, those aren't the entire empires, They're the homeworld regions of influence.

Besides, if the current extent of our knowlege was on that map, it wouldn't cover a full pixel  ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 21, 2007, 12:50:55 pm
the Arkibal empire is quite far "right of most of the other empires if your going to put that on and you might want to mark some of the other alliances on there.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 12:55:26 pm
I don't know any other alliances, maybe if you could name them and their members...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 21, 2007, 02:16:45 pm
I'm unsure why I'm helping a project so inevitably doomed to failure, but as I said, the Icthian Empire no longer exists at the point of time represented by the map.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 21, 2007, 02:22:46 pm
The Forthi, Thoons, and Urshans are Union worlds. The Forthi worlds aren't ruled by the REDSTAR (yet) though.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 02:41:41 pm
@Daxx: Thank's for your delightful optimism!  ;)

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6855/galaxy3am4.jpg (http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/6855/galaxy3am4.jpg)

update 1.03
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 21, 2007, 03:18:32 pm
The Forthi are WAY larger than what is shown on that map. They are about equal with the Yunimius, Auyuelcliads, and the Urshans.
And this is the problem that keeps popping up when we try to make maps. Just give up.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 03:29:18 pm
NEVA  ;D

Update 1.04

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2274/galaxy3am4au9.jpg (http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2274/galaxy3am4au9.jpg)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 21, 2007, 04:03:42 pm
I love how your race has an empire that's as big if not bigger than some creatures who've been around for literally years.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 21, 2007, 04:25:18 pm
Yeah, the Fredonian Alliance wouldn't have that much space, and they wouldn't really be divided up like that.  And they wouldn't be on the map anyways.... 
But good try from what information I gave you, which was next to nothing.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 21, 2007, 04:44:08 pm
I have to extrapalate o ton of info because everyone is fighting the idea of a map  :-\
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Thargor on March 21, 2007, 06:38:09 pm
The Jang space is unknown to pretty much everyone else, (save for three known planets) but it is also a pretty large area with each planet displaced in Unreal space. Each inhabited star system is connected to another until they all meet in the middle where the homeworld is. It would look somewhat like a star with various "arms" spreading out from the center. I suppose some planets could be in the declared territory of others, they would just not know they were inhabited since the planets would be undetectable...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 21, 2007, 06:59:48 pm
Few more things to change if you're going to keep going forward with the map:
1. The Arkibals are definately that large, they were alot smaller than any single GU race (except for maybe the Thoons).
2. The Omic should be a little bit larger.
3. The Thoons are smaller because they only have a few planets, they are farely new to the whole galactic scene...
4. I've never heard of the Tal'po, Has'ri, Gockets, and Factimilitus, and yet they're some of the largest races on there.
5. While the Peskitoriantais are old, they haven't been very active and i don't see how they could have gotten very large.
6. I thought the communicants were new and from a far off galaxy, yet they are in the center of everything...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 21, 2007, 07:10:25 pm
Few more things to change if you're going to keep going forward with the map:
1. The Arkibals are definately that large, they were alot smaller than any single GU race (except for maybe the Thoons).
2. The Omic should be a little bit larger.
3. The Thoons are smaller because they only have a few planets, they are farely new to the whole galactic scene...
4. I've never heard of the Tal'po, Has'ri, Gockets, and Factimilitus, and yet they're some of the largest races on there.
5. While the Peskitoriantais are old, they haven't been very active and i don't see how they could have gotten very large.
6. I thought the communicants were new and from a far off galaxy, yet they are in the center of everything...

depends what you mean by active. Either in RP or in general updates?

if it is RP, then you are most definently right. Though i actively participated in the Necro wars. But updates, then im on the fence with. I have been updating recently in the past few weeks.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 21, 2007, 08:39:38 pm
I have to extrapalate o ton of info because everyone is fighting the idea of a map  :-\


that is because you DON'T MAKE MAPS.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 21, 2007, 08:45:09 pm
so lets start now.

All confusion would be lost, if we just go all this confusion out of the way. So just pick a spot on the map and that is yours  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 22, 2007, 12:35:07 am
There are Zakraa, but they are fairly isolated. They are expansive, but mostly have somewhat useless systems. They are part of the Alliance.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on March 22, 2007, 01:20:15 am
6. I thought the communicants were new and from a far off galaxy, yet they are in the center of everything...

He speaks the truth!  ;D

Technically they shouldn't be on the map, since they aren't from the same galaxy as the others. Also I noticed they are the second smallest region :P. Lol, it's np, but they really aren't in the middle of everyone. Surely if they were there, they would have gotten into some conflicts with the Omics and Wexxians and got crushed by them a long time ago. You can't stop space mice and Spec Op robots :D.

But all in all I think the idea of a galactic map is great, but it would be quite an endevor to accomplish.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 11:35:59 am
Alright. Will fix some sizes and locations in the next update. My area and such were so big because I thought it looked proper to have a continuing border to all races, but I'll shrink the newer races a bit  ;)

@operaghost21: Thanks for continuing to support my endeavor!  ;) :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 22, 2007, 11:42:23 am
just make the arkibals empire small enough to stop boardering wexxians and decrese the home world influence to around that of the others.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: B.A.S. on March 22, 2007, 11:51:36 am
I give you props for actually attempting too make a map. Although futile it is still a good idea and you are officaly a brave soul for trying it!. :D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 11:57:47 am
Update 1.05, with all the new changes and info:

The Super-Cool Awsome Map (http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9884/galaxy3am4au9et1.jpg)

@Durgen: Thanks  :)

Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on March 22, 2007, 12:09:35 pm
Looks much better :D.

I noticed the Communicant territory said (Nearby Territory). Lol, that works just fine with me  ;D. You can never have too many galactic outposts.

Good work man, and I hope this works out in the end, it's too cool of an idea to let die :D.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 12:10:32 pm
Too cool to let die like your avatar?  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 22, 2007, 12:12:50 pm
although i didn't think this would work, you have done well, and i have hope.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on March 22, 2007, 12:24:30 pm
Too cool to let die like your avatar?  ;D

Those two little guys will never die, just run around saying OMG and ONOZ. They are immortal  ;D.

(I that's what you mean by Avatar, lol. If you mean The Walking God, then I wouldn't say he's too cool to let die, after all,  evil never wins ;D )
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 12:28:49 pm
Yes, I meant the two guys  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 22, 2007, 12:29:19 pm
Just though of something to add to 1.6, the GU loyalists, thats the urshans and arkibals and if anyone else is then they sould say.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 12:31:46 pm
Wait....I thought the Arkibals were invading the former GU  ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 01:07:14 pm
Looks good, and cant wait to see what it looks like in the very end. But i think my terriotory thing needs to just go out a mm more.  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Silverfish on March 22, 2007, 01:20:59 pm
Hmm... Well, in case you wanted some info 'bout my creatures' planet, ect...

The folicans have only one planet, so I guess that would make them...a dot, right? Anyways, for the location...(-chooses randomly-) Maybe somewhere to the left, and 'out of the way'.

Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 01:35:52 pm
I know this has been done many times before, but there should be some formula to calculate the size of ones area.

Im either thinking of Views divided by Posts, Days Old divided by Posts or Views divided by Days Old.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 22, 2007, 01:39:25 pm
I know this has been done many times before, but there should be some formula to calculate the size of ones area.

Im either thinking of Views divided by Posts, Days Old divided by Posts or Views divided by Days Old.

Yes, it has been done before. This, too, is a bad idea.
More specifically in this example because each of those equations actually means that a thing which has traditionally been held to confer power actually hinders.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 22, 2007, 01:42:43 pm
Let's just stick with the:

How Long You've Existed + How Respected You Are + How much you parcipitate + (If you are well-respected) How powerfull you say you are.


It works, provided everyone is mature. Those who are not mature are excluded, ignored and eventually disappear.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 01:50:52 pm
Let's just stick with the:

How Long You've Existed + How Respected You Are + How much you parcipitate + (If you are well-respected) How powerfull you say you are.


It works, provided everyone is mature. Those who are not mature are excluded, ignored and eventually disappear.

/sign. Lets do it!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 22, 2007, 01:57:37 pm
You don't need to sign for something that's already in practice as an unspoken rule.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 02:03:36 pm
when i mean /sign. i mean i agree. I come from a MMO that we have to do /*job here* to show what we mean. It is a habbit.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 22, 2007, 02:05:44 pm
Can we just forget about regions?    Lets make a map of the relative locations to one anouther...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 22, 2007, 02:11:31 pm
And then what would you make of the Roman Empire? A mere farm because it does not span a galaxy?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 22, 2007, 02:14:29 pm
It is discriminatory to newbs!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 02:18:11 pm
I'm going to just keep doing it the way I have been. It works. End of discussion.

P.S.-Could everyone delete those last batch of posts debating how territory size is determined? thanks  8)

EDIT: Version 1.06!

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/905/galaxy3am4au9ui3.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/905/galaxy3am4au9ui3.jpg)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 22, 2007, 02:21:43 pm
Although I love having as much territory as the Wexxians, I'm pretty sure the AoH isn't that big.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 02:24:57 pm
My size is good... until we wage wars on others! Muah Ha Ha!  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 22, 2007, 02:25:57 pm
Scratch that last post.  I do actually like having that much territory  >:D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: BioCat on March 22, 2007, 02:28:23 pm
Man not again the "I am much stronger than you discussion" I really hate those. I think power and effect of a nation depends mainly on the respect and experience it has in this community. There is no need to compare our strengths, as there are no winners in RP wars, we are only trying to tell a story the most interesting a realistic way possible.

Don't get me wrong, this map project is very cool and you guys did a great job, but lets keep it a map project and not turn in it into power comparing thread.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Oviraptor on March 22, 2007, 02:31:37 pm
I think you should redraw it and save it as a .PNG file, because your losing a ton of quality every time you make a new version. .JPEG is horrible at keeping quality in pictures.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 02:34:02 pm
I know, but it's too late to redraw it  :(
Quote from: Biocat
Don't get me wrong, this map project is very cool and you guys did a great job, but lets keep it a map project and not turn in it into power comparing thread

Ahem! It was just me!  >:( :P ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 22, 2007, 02:34:54 pm
Don't get me wrong, this map project is very cool and you guys did a great job, but lets keep it a map project and not turn in it into power comparing thread.

The problem is that people measure power by territory. So any map basically represents the relative powers of the empires through territory size.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 02:51:50 pm
Yeah, for all you know some planet with minimal technology could have claimed the unpopulated half of the galaxy, and got it too. He doesn't instantly ascend or anything though.  :-\
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Thargor on March 22, 2007, 03:22:45 pm
Missed the Jang again...  :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 03:31:10 pm
I didn't miss them, they just don't have "borders" per-se so I can't put 'em on.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Thargor on March 22, 2007, 03:35:23 pm
Well, to them they have borders and haven't purposely moved into any others territories... Maybe something like a little dotted line where they are? After this Catalyst buisness it is likely they're going to be out and about.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 03:46:08 pm
Well, I think their bio says something about them colonizing planets in other people's space, and I don't want to create confusion. Maybe I'll mark their home planet and say their borders are undefined. Where do you want their main planet to be?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Thargor on March 22, 2007, 03:53:15 pm
Ah, that isn't exactly the case. What happens is that they colonize any planet or planetoid they come to and work hard at terraforming it, then bringing it out of realspace and into Unreal Space. They go on with a natural progression of solar systems that are right next to each other, they do not jump around randomly. Their territory isn't horribly large that way, but it means that their population is fairly dense as every solid planetoid in their solar systems are inhabited.

The only planets that the Jang possess that would be contested are those solar systems others have moved in and claimed despite it having no planetary objects they could see for themselves. Most of their territory is located centrally within the galaxy within denser star clusters with long "fingers" stretching inbetween other species territory. Unreal Space seems to grow along with this territory.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 04:02:20 pm
Well the Tal'po seem to be closest to the center of the galaxy. I guess I can show your territory somehow without encroaching on others too much. I'll make two versions of the next update, and see how people respond to the jang empire  ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Thargor on March 22, 2007, 04:09:57 pm
Oh, and they call their government "The Community".
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 22, 2007, 04:28:38 pm
Well you might notice that I don't label empire names, just species and their territory.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 22, 2007, 08:08:16 pm
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4153/mmaappcl0.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4153/mmaappcl0.jpg)

// We are the Grand Torpalian Empire. // We are the last remaining super power in the galaxy. // We have been conquering worlds since before you left the primordial fluid. // Submit before us, or pray for mercy. // There is no respite. //





I don't get no respect...[/rodney dangerfield]
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 08:36:47 pm
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4153/mmaappcl0.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4153/mmaappcl0.jpg)

// We are the Grand Torpalian Empire. // We are the last remaining super power in the galaxy. // We have been conquering worlds since before you left the primordial fluid. // Submit before us, or pray for mercy. // There is no respite. //





I don't get no respect...[/rodney dangerfield]

 :o there is now an opening in the Galaxy!

I claim all area outside of the main circle!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 22, 2007, 08:41:58 pm
:o there is now an opening in the Galaxy!

I claim all area outside of the main circle!

that's the, uh, ascended area...members only   :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 08:52:40 pm
:( how can i become a member?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 22, 2007, 08:54:51 pm
by, umm...ascending

yeah, let's go with that...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 09:14:39 pm
hmm, you ascend first!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 22, 2007, 10:42:05 pm
The Zakraa have a large territory, larger then the one you gave them. Their entire point is that they have a large territory due to being in an area far away from others, but are at the same time very low in population compared to other races, due to their size and the time between births.

Its more like this:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/TaylorRF/editmap.jpg (http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/TaylorRF/editmap.jpg)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 23, 2007, 01:32:34 am
Good god man opera, get over yourself. You were here first, we freaking get it already.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 23, 2007, 05:13:57 am
How did the Has'ri get such a large territory if they don't even have faster than light travel? It would be impossible to get a state that large with the technology available. Something is wrong here.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 23, 2007, 06:59:41 am
How did the Has'ri get such a large territory if they don't even have faster than light travel? It would be impossible to get a state that large with the technology available. Something is wrong here.

// We are the Grand Torpalian Empire. // We are the last remaining super power in the galaxy. // We have been conquering worlds since before you left the primordial fluid. // Submit before us, or pray for mercy. // There is no respite. //

The Zakraa have a large territory, larger then the one you gave them. Their entire point is that they have a large territory due to being in an area far away from others, but are at the same time very low in population compared to other races, due to their size and the time between births.

These illustrate so many of my points.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 23, 2007, 08:44:42 am
geez, luminar, I'm being sarcastic.
 

how many times must i say NO MAPS?


in conclusion, NO MAPS AT ALL.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 23, 2007, 11:19:29 am
May I just ask who control the Jointly Governed Area? And while I agree with Opera, this map is the first one to not totally suck.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 23, 2007, 11:23:31 am
I think a map may work if we keep at it.  By the way, is this supposed to represent the whole galaxy, or just one part of it?  And am I the only one who keeps saying I should have a smaller territory?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 11:41:19 am
Quote from: Inkling
I think a map may work if we keep at it.  By the way, is this supposed to represent the whole galaxy, or just one part of it?  And am I the only one who keeps saying I should have a smaller territory?

You said you wanted smaller territory? What race are you?

Quote from:
How did the Has'ri get such a large territory if they don't even have faster than light travel? It would be impossible to get a state that large with the technology available. Something is wrong here.

They do have faster than light travel...I think. Did i miss something?

Quote from: TaylorFlame
The Zakraa have a large territory, larger then the one you gave them. Their entire point is that they have a large territory due to being in an area far away from others, but are at the same time very low in population compared to other races, due to their size and the time between births.

Remember? I don't count solely "claimed" areas, and I would bet most of the systems you claim don't have any more than, oh a few inhabitants.

And I don't put OMGUBER empires on the map, because they tend to be sparsely populated  :-\

Also, does someone know a file type where it doesn't continuously lose quality but is small enough to upload?

Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 23, 2007, 12:34:14 pm
On the next version, cut Gocket/Factimilitus space in half and just label the whole thing the Fredonian Alliance.  And if you could, place them a little further away from everyone else.  Their location is supposed to be a secret, but i guess they could be on this map since it's still abstract at this point.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 01:46:26 pm
What do you mean cut it in half? That would leave nothing but their colored spheres of influence.  ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 23, 2007, 01:55:13 pm
I mean, make the Fredonian Alliance's territory about the same size as that of the Has'ri or the Communicants.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 01:58:36 pm
The entire alliance? I think each species should have at least half the Has'ri size, and I'm planning on adding in the other member species in the next update...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 23, 2007, 02:02:55 pm
Ok, do what you want, if you've got a certain scale in mind.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 23, 2007, 02:36:26 pm
Well if the owner of the Hasri is fine with his borders then I will not purue the issue, but when I was reading their creature Bio it said they could travel at 90% of the speed of light. This may be wrong, or they could have improved their technology, I don't know.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 03:06:58 pm
I Present: Version 1.07 (http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/978/galaxy3am4au9oh8.png)

I changed it to a 16 color format and cleaned it up completely (not the circle tho). Pixel by excrutiating pixel  :'(

Also, I made a political statement reguarding the neutrality of the omic  ::)  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on March 23, 2007, 03:11:10 pm
Also, I made a political statement reguarding the neutrality of the omic  ::)  ;)  ;D

LOL, that made me chuckle. Good job man, keep up the great work  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 23, 2007, 03:23:47 pm
Yeah, it is turning out great!

Can i have a little sliver that joins the Peskis to the Auyeulcliads though?  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 03:27:27 pm
Alright, next version  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 23, 2007, 03:28:21 pm
We K'jalians want to know the position of the Catalyst!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Sipp on March 23, 2007, 03:34:17 pm
Based on the map, can i have my Tinaemesubee between the Forthi and the Zakraa?

Im with no alliance
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 23, 2007, 03:40:01 pm
We K'jalians want to know the position of the Catalyst!

Nobody but the Jang knows the position of the Catalyst

I must admit, you have done better than anyone who has tried this before!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 23, 2007, 03:43:30 pm
Not true.  K'aea knows.  The crew sent hem a message...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 04:35:06 pm
Well then tell him to make the map!  :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 23, 2007, 05:27:56 pm
He's fallen asleep again...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 23, 2007, 06:13:47 pm
Can you please move the Zakraa lands to the Empty East? They are really rather isolated.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 23, 2007, 06:45:45 pm
I thought they were fine where they were, with borders touching nobody, but if it bothers you that much

I guess I will  :)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 23, 2007, 11:44:28 pm
Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: DK_Man on March 24, 2007, 08:19:03 am
can you give a section of the galaxy to me?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on March 24, 2007, 08:32:27 am
do you have a creature yet?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 24, 2007, 09:46:50 am
Yes, that would help  :D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 24, 2007, 12:43:06 pm
If you show me a creature bio with enough information I can put you in but I cant just label a section "DK's Empire"  :D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kratok on March 25, 2007, 04:12:16 am
You should probably update the first page to show the current map.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Haseri on March 25, 2007, 08:16:20 am
Well if the owner of the Hasri is fine with his borders then I will not purue the issue, but when I was reading their creature Bio it said they could travel at 90% of the speed of light. This may be wrong, or they could have improved their technology, I don't know.

I'm not exactly sure about the borders, I imagined it a bit smaller. The Has'ri aren't realy into colonising at the moment, in the same way toddlers aren't intrested in running after learning to walk. As for FTL, yes they can go alot faster, but since the only ship that could was destroyed, no. But yes, normaly only 90% is 'safe'.

@opera: As you can see maps do work, from this thread. And I'd be happy owning nearly a quater of the galaxy.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 25, 2007, 09:02:38 am
This is turning out well.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Haseri on March 25, 2007, 09:04:30 am
Is that sarcasm? Or sincerity?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 25, 2007, 09:06:44 am
Sinserity  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 25, 2007, 09:53:17 am
@opera: As you can see maps do work, from this thread. And I'd be happy owning nearly a quater of the galaxy.

show me how to fairly represent a super power on there, and i'll agree with you.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 25, 2007, 11:29:49 am
Yeah, it is turning out great!

Can i have a little sliver that joins the Peskis to the Auyeulcliads though?  ::)

Why would you need that?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 25, 2007, 11:53:42 am
Maybe it has something to do with an RP.  He could also be sarcastic (note the  ::))
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 25, 2007, 12:00:27 pm
You dont have to anymore, it was going to be for RP purposes, but i decided not to do the RP idea anymore.

And im a she, lol
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 25, 2007, 12:01:09 pm
S'okay.  Im a dude, shes a dude, we're all...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 25, 2007, 02:31:43 pm
She was a boy.
He was a girl.
Can I make it any more obvious?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 25, 2007, 02:35:28 pm
He was a punk
She did ballet
What more can I say?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 25, 2007, 04:16:09 pm
He wanted her
But he'd never tell
And secretly she wanted him as well
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on March 25, 2007, 05:16:47 pm
Just when I thought this thread was getting somewhere.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 25, 2007, 05:20:15 pm
Especially since I put a twist on the lyrics that people don't seem to have picked up... x_X
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 25, 2007, 06:21:31 pm
dear God, why are you people singing avril lavigne?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Luminar on March 25, 2007, 07:40:11 pm
We could sing Alanis Morrisette if you prefer.
...or we could get back on topic, a suggestion not at all coincident with the amount of hurt-tools probably pointed at me right now..
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 25, 2007, 07:43:08 pm
when is the next update?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 25, 2007, 09:02:34 pm
Meh. I'll do it tonight I guess.  :-\

Update 1.08...err..9? (http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8007/galaxyex8.png)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 25, 2007, 11:18:30 pm
The Wexxians have fled, and some time in the RP world has passed. The RU is on an expansion tour of the galaxy ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 25, 2007, 11:32:54 pm
Ermm....RU?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: TaylorFlame on March 26, 2007, 02:48:59 am
REDSTAR Union. Its a communist uprising in the Grand Union. All nations taking part in the Axis-Alliance war (except for the Torpals) are going to be captured by it, but they will rebel and bring it down.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 26, 2007, 10:52:03 am
You could have just said REDSTAR..I know what that is. I just thought it was REDSTAR and not REDSTAR Union.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 26, 2007, 03:07:43 pm
RU is easier to say REDSTAR Union.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 26, 2007, 03:12:28 pm
Gaa!  Help!  I'm landlocked  ;)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 04:29:21 am
haha, good luck getting out of that!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 27, 2007, 08:31:56 am
Feh, i'll bite. The xx were pretty damn close to the Wexxians (but are extinct), so the KOR should have been somewhat nearby. The KOR have quite a bit of territory to their name, but it hasn't expanded for a while since they're working hard on industrial export to make amends to races who fought the war with them.

Well Wexxian space is a very different place now than when they where in contact with the xx.

Back then they where based mainly in the Thishen System, but they have later become a more nomadic species. Even with the Licentia, they always travelled to new places so they don’t really have a territory they inhabit.

They still have Thishen and the “Wexxian Worlds” Region… But Thishen is just one system with one habited planet; Azuron. And the “Wexxian Worlds” is not really of any significance… It’s a collection of terraformed worlds that the Wexxians don’t inhabit, but have “seeded” with life. Some of them are habited by Protector Members while they are exiled

I’m just going to make a small modification to the map.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1342/galaxyex9mw5.png

I have removed the Wexxian area and added the “Wexxian Worlds” area, the Thishen system… I also removed the circle around the area and in stead placed lines representing the borders of Outer, Mid and the Inner Rim!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 27, 2007, 09:17:46 am
thats a good modification
REDSTAR Union. Its a communist uprising in the Grand Union. All nations taking part in the Axis-Alliance war (except for the Torpals) are going to be captured by it, but they will rebel and bring it down.

errgh hem, the Arkibals, have not been captured, and are not going to be captured either.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 11:30:45 am
So..international territory being like free territory in which anyone can come and go as they please?

Also, does everyone approve of the new map? If so, I'll proceed to use it from now on.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 27, 2007, 01:06:09 pm
so what's the inner rim? nauceans, torpals, vis? or, like, random unnamed precursor species?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 01:16:58 pm
so what's the inner rim? nauceans, torpals, vis? or, like, random unnamed precursor species?


i would also like to know!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 27, 2007, 02:17:57 pm
so what's the inner rim? nauceans, torpals, vis? or, like, random unnamed precursor species?

Yes, plenty of space to the great species of the Golden Age and before!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 02:19:23 pm
i acctually do like the addition to the map, with the rims and stuff! Good Job!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 02:24:58 pm
Like the forbidden inner-realm. No one shall lay eyes upon the sacred past.

Actually, considering the theory of the big bang, shouldn't the golden age creatures exist on the outer rim? Life is newer the farther in you go to the center of the galaxy.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: operaghost21 on March 27, 2007, 03:12:00 pm
Actually, considering the theory of the big bang, shouldn't the golden age creatures exist on the outer rim?

while, at first thought, I liked being in the middle of space (center of attention!  :D ), i agree that they should be on the outside. it's just cooler, imo (plus, you know, gec's logic makes sense...if that matters  :P ).
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 27, 2007, 03:42:47 pm
I may not be a professor, but I do not believe that the Big Bang theory has anything to do with galaxies.

I figured it like this… I may be wrong but what the heck…

In a spiral galaxy, the star density is higher in the middle and the stars there are often older. The outer parts of a galaxy have low density in stars, but full of free gas, captured by the gravity of the galaxy. The free gas becomes young stars and during billions of years they are drawn closer to the centre of the galaxy.

So I figured that the first species would appear in the inner parts of the galaxy. With the more stars there would be a higher chance of intelligent species evolving.

Then statistically, the species would evolve from the inner rim and then outwards.

I would also suspect that the core of the galaxy would be inhabitable because of the large amount of radiation and the many black holes.

Again, I only have astronomy as a hobby and I’m not good at remembering facts.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 03:45:30 pm
Your logic dose make sense, they just thought it was a map of the universe...  ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 04:11:47 pm
If we're going to get this in depth, then there can be no actual life even close to the center of the universe because of the massive amounts of radiation that is reflected around there.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 04:14:13 pm
Then, logically, life would only begin once stars begin to distance from the center. Catch my drift? I'm no astronomer either, but that's what I've been told.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 04:18:52 pm
Exactly. So Jack's drawing could actually represent only a small strip of the outer area of a galaxy. Think of the galaxy divided into three sections: Inner, Middle, and Outer. Jack's entire map covers the Outer area, which he in turn seperated into three other sections... Does that make sense or should i try to explain it again?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 04:24:38 pm
It's fine where the map is, you just need to switch the golden era to the outer rim.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 04:25:13 pm
Guys, I don't think you get it. This is a map of one galaxy. Not the entire universe.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 04:27:36 pm
But doesn't the game Spore run under one galaxy? All the creatures pretty much inevitably need to exist in the same galaxy.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 04:29:31 pm
Erm...what? Are you contradicting me or supporting me?   ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 04:41:00 pm
I think you may have mistaken me for speaking of an entire universe when I was actually speaking of this galaxy.

Anyways, as far as the location of the golden era creatures I think it's fitting for it to be on the outter rim of the galaxy. (Notice I did not say universe.)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 27, 2007, 04:42:49 pm
And as I have already tried to eksplain, I think it's fitting for it to be on the Inner-Rim
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 04:47:05 pm
Well it's your choice. I guess if you feel that the center of the galaxy is like the center pedistal of galactic society. :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 04:52:16 pm
Guys, I don't think you get it. This is a map of one galaxy. Not the entire universe.

If you look at my post, you'll notice i never said universe.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 04:56:23 pm
Hmm, weird that all the creatures are on 1 side of the rim of the galaxy, and not the other...


I call dibs on other side of galaxy!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 05:01:25 pm
Hmm, weird that all the creatures are on 1 side of the rim of the galaxy, and not the other...


I call dibs on other side of galaxy!

We just haven't explored over there yet. It allows newer races to join.

But i do agree with Gec, the outer worlds would be the first to be free of the harmful radiation, allowing them to evolve life, and sentient life first. As the galaxy expands, more land becomes free for new life to evolve, meaning that newer races are evolving closer to the center of the galaxy.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 05:16:05 pm
wouldnt some creatures be able to be immune to the radiation if they started evolving near the middle?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 05:33:59 pm
I agree. Just because life on earth can't stand radiation doesn't mean that no life could. It could evolve so that it specifically is immune to such radiation.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on March 27, 2007, 05:54:47 pm
Since radiations cause mutations, you cannot evovle too be immune to it...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 06:14:29 pm
it can cause a mutation TO be immune to it
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Doctor Z on March 27, 2007, 06:23:42 pm
so, what, the cells multiply and devide so fast that mutations are not able to be passed on?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: nuclearchinchila on March 27, 2007, 07:08:12 pm
Look, what does radiation do?  It messes with things at a subatomic level, what mutation other than something like lead-plating is going to make something immune to radiation?  AND if there's that much radiation to begin with how can you expect life to even come about, much less live long enough to build up an  immunity to it over millenia of evolution?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 07:09:41 pm
wouldnt some creatures be able to be immune to the radiation if they started evolving near the middle?

Not in the middle. There's just too much radiation for anything to survive. Water can't even form there, the radiation and heat make sure of that. Of course there could always be some other lifeform based on a different element, but it's very doubtful. Radiation would manipulate the different races so that even if an animal became immune, there probably wouldn't be another creature in the same species or category that would allow it to mate with it. So no offspring would come out of it...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 07:10:16 pm
how does anyone know how life starts (scientifically) ?

we dont know, so anything goes.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 07:12:38 pm
Well there have been several experiments where conditions that were thought to be like early earth were created and the organic molecules needed for earth-like life were created through electricity (lightning). And it has also been noted that oils form into a semi-permeable membrane when put in water. These are the conditions to create microscopic life.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: nuclearchinchila on March 27, 2007, 07:13:56 pm
how does anyone know how life starts (scientifically) ?

we dont know, so anything goes.

Well, there are theories ya know.  And if you can come up with a logical theory on how life can come about in the center of giant party of radiation then I'm all for it!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 07:14:52 pm
but then again, that is what we "think" early earth was like.

haha, i dont think this arguement will get anywhere so lets just have the older guys on the outside, somewhere middle aged in the middle, and newer ones in the inner. lol  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 27, 2007, 07:15:35 pm
Fine with me.  :D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 27, 2007, 07:16:09 pm
how does anyone know how life starts (scientifically) ?

we dont know, so anything goes.

Well, there are theories ya know.  And if you can come up with a logical theory on how life can come about in the center of giant party of radiation then I'm all for it!


haha, ill give it a go!


Some radiation causes the growth of cells to multiply at an astounding rate until it forms somewhat microscopic organisms.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 08:58:36 pm
I think we'll stick with old races in center, middle races in center, and very young races on edge, regardless of the reality of it  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Notorious B.O.B on March 27, 2007, 09:32:39 pm
wouldnt some creatures be able to be immune to the radiation if they started evolving near the middle?

Not in the middle. There's just too much radiation for anything to survive. Water can't even form there, the radiation and heat make sure of that. Of course there could always be some other lifeform based on a different element, but it's very doubtful. Radiation would manipulate the different races so that even if an animal became immune, there probably wouldn't be another creature in the same species or category that would allow it to mate with it. So no offspring would come out of it...

Radiation can be blocked out by an atmosphere, like our own shields us from most of the radiation hitting Earth at any given time.  As for heat.....well, I'm working on that one (maybe some other liquid besides water?).
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 27, 2007, 09:34:51 pm
Heat in the core area isn't intolerable, there are just more stars. There are areas with the same temperature of that in Earth's orbit, even if they are less common...
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Slartibartfast on March 27, 2007, 10:07:36 pm
Then, logically, life would only begin once stars begin to distance from the center. Catch my drift? I'm no astronomer either, but that's what I've been told.
I think this is what you're talking about.

(http://www.unm.edu/~hdelaney/galaxy.gif)
Habitable zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habitable_zone)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 10:43:15 pm
Ha, near-credible resources of information win!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 28, 2007, 04:23:48 am
Wow... this has become a very mature debate.

Who would have belived it!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on March 28, 2007, 04:24:31 am
I think we'll stick with old races in center, middle races in center, and very young races on edge, regardless of the reality of it  ::)

but, are you not counting the 2 week old species that are now in the middle to be "new"?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 28, 2007, 04:48:38 am
Nice. I wonder if spore will have that habitable zone ring. :D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Snake on March 28, 2007, 04:50:42 am
Odd, they've always said we're on the outer "arm" of our galaxy.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 28, 2007, 08:03:38 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we aren't where that diagram says we are  ::)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Slartibartfast on March 28, 2007, 08:23:29 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we aren't where that diagram says we are  ::)
Why?  What's the problem?

(http://universe-review.ca/I05-18-MilkyWayBar.jpg)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 28, 2007, 08:30:20 am
it's probably more likely, that the older races exist, within the outer regions of the galactic habital zone, and that the less advanced live further back.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: gec05 on March 28, 2007, 08:34:43 am
But do you not also believe that everything starts from the center and expands?

I think you guys just want the older creatures in the center because it's like the prime real estate of the galaxy. That's not how it works.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 28, 2007, 08:36:19 am
Look at the two diagrams. The sun is much farther out in the second.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 28, 2007, 08:43:17 am
actually, paert of the galaxy is chopped of the second one, anywho, when are we going to se a new update.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 28, 2007, 08:46:06 am
What am I going to add in the next update? I don't remember anything new to add in  ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 28, 2007, 09:03:36 am
We could add some stellar terrain, black holes, nebulas and such!  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 28, 2007, 09:08:17 am
theres a large black hole on the edge opf arkibal space near to the other races, and also change around the descriptors for iner and outer rim
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Haseri on March 28, 2007, 10:13:19 am
Plus, if it's a spiral galaxy, isn't there a black hole in the centre?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Jack Zetter on March 28, 2007, 10:32:08 am
I never imagined that there would be such a fuss about Inner-Outer Rim places.

Can’t we just keep it as it is for now, we have for a long time been talking about the Outer-Rim as a vast area of colonies and young species.
I’m not sure but I think it was me who firstly mentioned it. But I got it from Star Wars

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2420/udgalaxpsd21nx.jpg
(Not an update)

It is very probable that there is a powerful black hole in the middle of the galaxy, probably multiple ones. But the map doesn’t go all the way into the core; it only skims the surface of the Inner-Rim.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 28, 2007, 11:06:39 am
so we shouldjust leave the map, i think thatas alright
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on March 28, 2007, 11:41:21 am
Agreed. We go with what the Wexxian said  ;D
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Oviraptor on March 28, 2007, 02:51:08 pm
This map is more detailed:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Modimapgalaxy1.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Modimapgalaxy1.jpg)

This one gives a better perspective on how large a galaxy really is.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daan on March 28, 2007, 02:55:02 pm
Why are we discussing SW maps now?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Josasa on March 28, 2007, 03:10:15 pm
But we just proved that older races would be on the outer rims. Just switch the names around.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: DK_Man on March 29, 2007, 04:30:59 am
wheres mine?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: munchkin5 on March 29, 2007, 08:04:19 am
who really cares, maby thats just were they chose to go, now leave it, on with the updating
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Netherflare on April 21, 2007, 07:39:00 pm
whens the next update?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on April 21, 2007, 08:00:07 pm
Well i need to know what to add.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: emmet on April 22, 2007, 03:29:53 am
The Omic empire is tiny... They only inhabit one planet, they mine on the other 5 planets in their system. That's it.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on April 22, 2007, 12:16:11 pm
Thats strange...one of the other members said hat I needed to make it bigger...  ???
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: emmet on April 22, 2007, 02:17:59 pm
I saw that, but josasa was basing that on my time and respect here.

Omic are tiny, so logically they require little space!
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on April 22, 2007, 02:21:56 pm
Well I guess I'll shrink it next time.

List For Update:
-Shrink Omic Space
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Slartibartfast on April 22, 2007, 03:13:15 pm
The Omic empire is tiny... They only inhabit one planet, they mine on the other 5 planets in their system. That's it.
How is that an "empire" ?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Oviraptor on April 22, 2007, 05:40:17 pm
The Omic empire is tiny... They only inhabit one planet, they mine on the other 5 planets in their system. That's it.
How is that an "empire" ?

Rome was an empire, and that was only a small piece of one planet.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on April 22, 2007, 05:51:10 pm
You could add the Vepilk, and since they're coming soon, the Vish to the Fredonian Alliance.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on April 22, 2007, 05:56:08 pm
List For Update:
-Shrink Omic Space
-Add Vepik & Vish
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Doctor Z on April 22, 2007, 06:39:00 pm
Add lines connecting from the Azimuth to all who accept the Worldgates, in the AoH. Those are the Gate Lines. Also, add lines connecting those to each other. Everyone connects to Everyone.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Inkling on April 22, 2007, 06:48:00 pm
That could get a bit messy, but it's up to Brandon.  Maybe it would work better to add a dot or star inside their territory to signify who has them.  Technically, The location of the Fredonian Alliance is unknown, but they're on the map anyways. 
(It's something like the fourth time i've said that, so I guess I like to repeat myself.)
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Doctor Z on April 22, 2007, 06:53:14 pm
Yea, I guess inklings right. Lets go with putting a circle in there teritory, where they put the Worldgate.



P.S. Yes, Worldgate is a Rip off of Stargate.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on April 22, 2007, 07:31:15 pm
You didn't need to tell us it was a ripoof, we knew  ::)

And I'm not gonna put 'em on the map I think.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 01, 2007, 01:46:48 pm
The Omic empire is tiny... They only inhabit one planet, they mine on the other 5 planets in their system. That's it.
How is that an "empire" ?

Rome was an empire, and that was only a small piece of one planet.


He's got you there
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: huggkruka on May 01, 2007, 01:59:36 pm
Technically anything with an emperor is an empire, isn't it?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on May 01, 2007, 02:04:03 pm
Well, an empire by definition is a political entity made up of several ethnicities or nationalities over a (relatively) large area. So tell us about the other sapient species in the empire and you can be one.  :P
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Kcronos on May 01, 2007, 02:05:56 pm
If I choose to call my country "Overlord", why not?
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Daxx on May 01, 2007, 02:12:32 pm
Well, an empire by definition is a political entity made up of several ethnicities or nationalities over a (relatively) large area. So tell us about the other sapient species in the empire and you can be one.  :P

An empire can simply be a large nation or set of territories. There's no need for there to be other species involved. To the Omics, several systems is a relatively large set of territories. Hey, it's relatively large compared to the Roman or British Empires. They can call themselves an Empire if they like.
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on May 01, 2007, 03:09:08 pm
Meh, okay Daxx, you win

<_<
>_>
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Odys on May 01, 2007, 04:09:28 pm
(http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5743/060606galaxy3xz0.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

Perhaps viewing in a 3 dimensional point of view would help better as to sectioning it off to different factions.

http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/images/060606.galaxy3.jpg link to full size

*sorry if something like this was already posted*
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on May 01, 2007, 05:00:08 pm
I actually have a program that can do that....but it's too hard  :-\
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Odys on May 01, 2007, 05:03:31 pm
'T would be cool to see that
Title: Re: A Map of the Galaxy
Post by: Brandonazz on May 14, 2007, 06:46:23 pm
And an update!

*drum roll*

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7734/newgalaxyzf3.png (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7734/newgalaxyzf3.png)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 14, 2007, 06:57:57 pm
Did you mix up the AoH capital and Beyon City?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 07:01:13 pm
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Sorry, I meant Beyon should be on the other wormhole.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 14, 2007, 07:04:32 pm
yeah, maybe we should do that?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 14, 2007, 07:16:17 pm
No I didn't confuse them, that's where the wormhole has always been. It would be awkward for Beyon to be so close to the AoH capital.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 14, 2007, 07:18:56 pm
No I didn't confuse them, that's where the wormhole has always been. It would be awkward for Beyon to be so close to the AoH capital.

No switch them around. It would make more sense for the capital to be in the center of your territory. Plus it's just awkward for Beyon to be in the middle of the alliance that only holds about 1/3 of the planets surface.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on May 14, 2007, 07:42:13 pm
You know whats ironic? You list the edge of the galaxy as where the primitive, uncivilized species live, but Earth is located on the edge of the Milky Way!  :D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kratok on May 14, 2007, 08:19:34 pm
They aren't primitive? Oh, as a point, I should be closer to the outer rim since I'm coming into this Galaxy too. Maybe inbetween the Communicants, Thoons and Urshans.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Doctor Z on May 15, 2007, 04:31:39 am
 >:( OI! Where be meh shpecies?!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 15, 2007, 08:13:07 am
Looking at that new map, it confuses me on two point: 1. I remember the AoP being bigger 2. Why show nearly all of the Union worlds under REDSTAR jurisdiction? As of late, the Yunimian province is the only remaining one, the NU governing the rest under martial law.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 15, 2007, 09:14:06 am
it's probably better to make those REDSTAR worlds NU, (exept yunimuis),  and change the thoons completely NU. you should also look at some lists on the AoP thread.

EDIT: All of the listed, non-extinct members of the AoP are apprantly still active so they all need adding, and the omic are part of them too.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 15, 2007, 09:18:10 am
In fact, just make all Union Worlds (Austians and soon Arkibals included) NU coloured.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 15, 2007, 09:20:54 am
Arkibals have been that colour since abouit three months ago when they were effectively but not officially made members during the war.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: TaylorFlame on May 16, 2007, 02:25:47 pm
The Zakraa are now part of the NU aswell.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 16, 2007, 02:32:39 pm
You know whats ironic? You list the edge of the galaxy as where the primitive, uncivilized species live, but Earth is located on the edge of the Milky Way!  :D

We had a large debate over this and i fought for the side that the advanced species should be on the outside, seeing as they were able to get out of the deadly radiation first and that the more primitive species would be near the middle on the planets just escaping the deadly radiation. It just makes more sense.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 16, 2007, 03:39:25 pm
The Zakraa are now part of the NU aswell.

Is the entire AoP, GU, and RU part of it?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 16, 2007, 06:32:28 pm
Alright i did an update:
(http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/3948/galacticmapay3.png)
Here are the changes:
-I moved the Kratokians to where they requested.
-I deleted the Formerly GU Jointly Governed Land and split it up between the Austians (whom i added), the Yunimius, and the Forthi. I took away some land from the Yunimius and Forthi to give to the Auyuelcliads, and took some away from the Auyuelcliads to give to the Urshans and a little to the Thoons.
-I added the new NU capital, trying to place it as close to the center as i could, what with all the new members.
-Switched the alliance affiliation of some races, such as the Zakraa, Omic and Wexxians.
-Added the Azimuths (i hope that's their name, couldn't really tell), Vepik and Vish (were they a part of any alliance? Didn't know).
-Created the newly planned transportation system (we just said it was a wormhole so we don't clog the map up with a key) between the Forthi and Arkibals (read more about it in their threads).

I think that's about it...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on May 16, 2007, 07:17:17 pm
I just noticed that Vexarion space is in an entirely different position, without my permission. Why?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on May 16, 2007, 08:17:33 pm
The Vepilk and the Vish would be members of the Fredonian Alliance, and therefore next to the other FA worlds.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 17, 2007, 09:30:14 am
Strange how I'm in the exact place I want to be.....
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Bodica on May 17, 2007, 09:31:15 am
can the Slitheran be but between the Has'ri and Gockets?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 17, 2007, 09:32:37 am
Has'ri arn't on there, but the Gockets are near the Fredionians



EDIT: Why does the AoH and NU worlds look like a map of Europe?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Bodica on May 17, 2007, 09:35:12 am
yeah they are


(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z309/bodica11/hasri.png)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 17, 2007, 09:35:59 am
Okay, then your question is answered.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 12:40:26 pm
yeah they are


(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z309/bodica11/hasri.png)


1. What the hell am I bordering Azimuth for? The Tal'po are nowhere near anyone else, they entered the rp world through the wormhole.

2. The AoH capital was decidedly built at the wormhole, so put it back or I will.

Other than those issues, nice work  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 01:28:36 pm
I don't think i did anything with the Vexarions...

Sorry, i was wondering whom the Vish and Vepik belonged to.

I put the Azimuth there because i remembered them wanting to open up wormholes throughout the alliance to increase trade. I thought that's what the wormholes were from. Didn't know the Tal'po came from them, sorry.

And i just noticed it too, this does look like a map of Europe with the Peskis and those others Italy, and the Omic and communicants making up spain or something like that. That's pretty weird.

About the AoH Capital. You hadn't named the capital there until we discussed putting Beyon their. So it really depends on whether the many different races want the AoH capital in that area or Beyon City. I now the wormhole was there, but it wasn't common knowledge that the AoH capital was there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 01:45:49 pm
I don't think i did anything with the Vexarions...

Sorry, i was wondering whom the Vish and Vepik belonged to.

I put the Azimuth there because i remembered them wanting to open up wormholes throughout the alliance to increase trade. I thought that's what the wormholes were from. Didn't know the Tal'po came from them, sorry.

And i just noticed it too, this does look like a map of Europe with the Peskis and those others Italy, and the Omic and communicants making up spain or something like that. That's pretty weird.

About the AoH Capital. You hadn't named the capital there until we discussed putting Beyon their. So it really depends on whether the many different races want the AoH capital in that area or Beyon City. I now the wormhole was there, but it wasn't common knowledge that the AoH capital was there.


Uhh...WRONG

We decided specifically when we made the capital in the first place that it would be at the wormhole on this end. I didn't even know Beyon existed until weeks later.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:10:29 pm
I don't think i did anything with the Vexarions...

Sorry, i was wondering whom the Vish and Vepik belonged to.

I put the Azimuth there because i remembered them wanting to open up wormholes throughout the alliance to increase trade. I thought that's what the wormholes were from. Didn't know the Tal'po came from them, sorry.

And i just noticed it too, this does look like a map of Europe with the Peskis and those others Italy, and the Omic and communicants making up spain or something like that. That's pretty weird.

About the AoH Capital. You hadn't named the capital there until we discussed putting Beyon their. So it really depends on whether the many different races want the AoH capital in that area or Beyon City. I now the wormhole was there, but it wasn't common knowledge that the AoH capital was there.


Uhh...WRONG

We decided specifically when we made the capital in the first place that it would be at the wormhole on this end. I didn't even know Beyon existed until weeks later.

You didn't place the capital until you placed Beyon. Beyon is older than your capital and therefore should be placed whever the other species think it should be placed, me included.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:13:56 pm
I don't think i did anything with the Vexarions...

Sorry, i was wondering whom the Vish and Vepik belonged to.

I put the Azimuth there because i remembered them wanting to open up wormholes throughout the alliance to increase trade. I thought that's what the wormholes were from. Didn't know the Tal'po came from them, sorry.

And i just noticed it too, this does look like a map of Europe with the Peskis and those others Italy, and the Omic and communicants making up spain or something like that. That's pretty weird.

About the AoH Capital. You hadn't named the capital there until we discussed putting Beyon their. So it really depends on whether the many different races want the AoH capital in that area or Beyon City. I now the wormhole was there, but it wasn't common knowledge that the AoH capital was there.


Uhh...WRONG

We decided specifically when we made the capital in the first place that it would be at the wormhole on this end. I didn't even know Beyon existed until weeks later.

You didn't place the capital until you placed Beyon. Beyon is older than your capital and therefore should be placed whever the other species think it should be placed, me included.

Your argument is faulty. The location for the capital was chosen first, and the location has been RPed with. You can't just say "oh it was never there" and shove it halways across the galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:16:11 pm
I don't think i did anything with the Vexarions...

Sorry, i was wondering whom the Vish and Vepik belonged to.

I put the Azimuth there because i remembered them wanting to open up wormholes throughout the alliance to increase trade. I thought that's what the wormholes were from. Didn't know the Tal'po came from them, sorry.

And i just noticed it too, this does look like a map of Europe with the Peskis and those others Italy, and the Omic and communicants making up spain or something like that. That's pretty weird.

About the AoH Capital. You hadn't named the capital there until we discussed putting Beyon their. So it really depends on whether the many different races want the AoH capital in that area or Beyon City. I now the wormhole was there, but it wasn't common knowledge that the AoH capital was there.


Uhh...WRONG

We decided specifically when we made the capital in the first place that it would be at the wormhole on this end. I didn't even know Beyon existed until weeks later.

You didn't place the capital until you placed Beyon. Beyon is older than your capital and therefore should be placed whever the other species think it should be placed, me included.

Your argument is faulty. The location for the capital was chosen first, and the location has been RPed with. You can't just say "oh it was never there" and shove it halways across the galaxy.

So is yours. You just contradicted yourself. You can't just say that Beyon was never there. Plus you had never stated that your capital was at the edge of the wormhole, or that the wormhole was even placed there. Bring up the threads that say these things and then i'll switch.
And when does the location really matter in RPs? Nobody actually plots out how long it will take to get somewhere, or add those little factors into the actual RP.

(And don't say the reason they're their is because you drew it up on the map. That's a dumb argument since you were the one that created it.)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:20:15 pm
Well someone help me and dont criticise me then!  :P

Can someone give me a list of all races, and say which ones are a member of redstar and which ones are near eachother?

Edit: Update 1.02: empires without internationally recognized bondaries not shown, plus races I wasn't aware of  ;) :P

Also, this is primary area of influence, like home worlds and close colonies, because i don't yet know how far each race goes. I don't planet to label claims, unless uninhabited.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6871/galaxy1ln5.jpg (http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6871/galaxy1ln5.jpg)

Use the link because you cant read names when it's resized  ;)

Alright, there aren't three or more species that can vote so I pass the movement that the capital shall be the wormhole on a vote of 5:2  ;)

What do we propose to vote on next?

Both of these are from March. The first is when I posted my first galaxy shaped version of the map, and the second is when we reached a vote conclusively that the capital would be at the wormhole.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:23:24 pm
Okay i'll give you that, but whos to say that Beyon was never there? Why not switch the capital from one wormhole to the other. It would make more sense seeing as it is closer to most of the AoH races.

And by the way, what is Thisen anyway? It might be more suitable to move that planet and place Beyon there...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:28:43 pm
I'm not completely sure, the Wexxian guy whose name escapes me right now added that in the place of Wexxian space, so I'm assuming it's the former Wexxian homeoworld. It's like a free city I suppose.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:30:29 pm
I'm not completely sure, the Wexxian guy whose name escapes me right now added that in the place of Wexxian space, so I'm assuming it's the former Wexxian homeoworld. It's like a free city I suppose.

The Wexxians never had a homeworld except their spacestation...
Was that the planet that the robots were starting a rebellion?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:33:29 pm
I don't know. When I entered the RP world the Wexxians were already nomadic fugitives from the GU.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:35:06 pm
I don't know. When I entered the RP world the Wexxians were already nomadic fugitives from the GU.

Then lets just get rid of Thishen and place Beyon their. Then move the AoH capital back to where it was...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:41:28 pm
Alright, you do it. I'm kind of limited as to what I can do on this computer.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:47:54 pm
Alright, here it is:
(http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/8706/galacticmapez1.png)
I changed some of the things i got complaints on... Also, instead of typing Wormhole, i changed it to WO.

This is also the time that the New Forthi Delegation would like to announce that a trading wormhole between them and the K'jal race is planned on being constructed as the main area for trade between the Alliance of Honor and the New Union. Completion is expected within in a few weeks. The materials have already been assembled and construction is ready to begin. May this bring the two superpowers closer together.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 17, 2007, 02:54:14 pm
I think I'll change it back to Wormhole when I get my comp back, I forget the font I was using, but as you can tell it's slightly condensed and allows it. WO A just looks a bit oppressive :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 02:59:28 pm
I think I'll change it back to Wormhole when I get my comp back, I forget the font I was using, but as you can tell it's slightly condensed and allows it. WO A just looks a bit oppressive :P

That's fine, it just saves space.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 17, 2007, 03:40:50 pm
I don't know. When I entered the RP world the Wexxians were already nomadic fugitives from the GU.

Then lets just get rid of Thishen and place Beyon their. Then move the AoH capital back to where it was...

Thishen is the system where the Wexxians originally evolved into sentience in one of the asteroid belts.

Major events have occurred in that system during both the Halcyon War and the Necrid Discord.

The Battle of Thishen - http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=3888.0


After the Halcyon War, the Wexxians terraformed the second planet from the star, and they made it an international haven for all species who wanted to share the Wexxians dream of a peaceful coexistence.

This place is now populated by dozens of species and it has in fact existed since before Beyond City.

Now… that place has been placed there by me because that area already was declared Wexxian, and because I have plans for the Wexxians to restart their project there after the post-war chaos.

I don’t mind if Beyond and Thishen is close by  each other but id be dammed if you are going to just remove the closest thing my Wexxians ever had to a homeworld.  :(

Actually there is no discussion; switch it back or place Beyond next to Thishen.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 17, 2007, 04:52:51 pm
I don't know. When I entered the RP world the Wexxians were already nomadic fugitives from the GU.

Then lets just get rid of Thishen and place Beyon their. Then move the AoH capital back to where it was...

Thishen is the system where the Wexxians originally evolved into sentience in one of the asteroid belts.

Major events have occurred in that system during both the Halcyon War and the Necrid Discord.

The Battle of Thishen - http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=3888.0


After the Halcyon War, the Wexxians terraformed the second planet from the star, and they made it an international haven for all species who wanted to share the Wexxians dream of a peaceful coexistence.

This place is now populated by dozens of species and it has in fact existed since before Beyond City.

Now… that place has been placed there by me because that area already was declared Wexxian, and because I have plans for the Wexxians to restart their project there after the post-war chaos.

I don’t mind if Beyond and Thishen is close by  each other but id be dammed if you are going to just remove the closest thing my Wexxians ever had to a homeworld.  :(

Actually there is no discussion; switch it back or place Beyond next to Thishen.


Oh, sorry about that. I didn't know why it was added. But why isn't it closer to your territory and why is it the only single nation that has the planet named after it?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 17, 2007, 05:10:47 pm
Oh, sorry about that. I didn't know why it was added. But why isn't it closer to your territory and why is it the only single nation that has the planet named after it?

Well the Wexxians evolved in the Thishen system but the Wexxians did not stay there after their home station; The Originator, was captured in the Necrid Discord and later destroyed.

The Wexxian Worlds region is a place where the Wexxians fled to in exile during the GU war, it is located so remote because the Wexxians did not whish for the GU/REDSTAR to find it… whereas the Thishen system is a more specific location.

The Wexxian Worlds consists actually only of a collection of terraformed worlds with no inhabitants. As it is of no real political, cultural or military significance; we might as well remove them from the map.


As for the name… The system is called Thishen, the terraformed planet is called Azuron and the main city on the planet is called Indigo City.

I have some pics of it:

Globe concept image of Azuron:  (click on the thumb nails to see the full images)
(http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2677/azuronglobal1ob.th.jpg) (http://img154.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azuronglobal1ob.jpg)


Atlas of Azuron:

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1738/azuronatlas0gn.th.jpg) (http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=azuronatlas0gn.jpg)
(Courtesy of Ittiz for the pics. Thanks mate. :D )


Indigo City:

(http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/1690/indigocityconseptpic1fn6.jpg)
(Nice isn’t it!)

For more information, check here: http://www.sporewiki.com/The_Wexxian_%28Concept%29#The_Thishen_Star_system:


Sorry if I seemed angry!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 17, 2007, 05:19:50 pm
This place is now populated by dozens of species and it has in fact existed since before Beyond City.

This is true. I don't mean to completely wipe out his planet because of mine. Putting Beyon and Thishen next to each other is fine.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 17, 2007, 05:35:05 pm
Thanks Eligecos!

With Azuron and Beyond so close to each other, there is probably going to a great deal of trading and such between them… plus endless plot possibilities!

I’m going to re-introduce Azuron in the near future, but currently I’m busy as I’m closing in on my graduation. Its going to be… a bit like Beyond, and at the same time difrent…
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 17, 2007, 06:31:24 pm
Seems like i picked a great spot too for trade. I got the worm hole on one side and then Beyon on the other.  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on May 17, 2007, 07:07:54 pm
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2166/galacticmapbb3.jpg)

-Changed the Kratair's location and may I just remind you that they are a space faring race and their location is subject to change over time.

Do you guys think I should add the location where their homeplanet was?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 17, 2007, 07:11:20 pm
yeah, put the homeplanet. Though im not so sure about the changing of the other thing, but we shall see  ::)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 17, 2007, 07:31:59 pm
oh, and you should change the Tinaemesubee color to white because i dont think they are affiliated with anything.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 18, 2007, 08:20:49 am
also ONLY put home planet influence zones, not all your planets like that.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 18, 2007, 08:35:14 am
Could someone add Wormhole B nearer to the Yunimius zone?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 18, 2007, 10:46:56 am
oh, and you should change the Tinaemesubee color to white because i dont think they are affiliated with anything.

They're still grey because In my original copy grey meant unaffiliated.

But I guess this map is no longer mine  :D

Ah well, community projects always end up better, just glad I could do something that so many others failed to do  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 18, 2007, 01:34:40 pm
Could you add the Federal Union anywhere?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 18, 2007, 01:37:16 pm
CAB has been resurrected. Maybe it can be placed on the outer rim closer to everyone.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 18, 2007, 01:41:54 pm
The map will have to be expanded, if it is to include the CAB nations
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 18, 2007, 01:43:53 pm
At least one whole quadrant. Not the whole galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on May 18, 2007, 02:53:17 pm
also ONLY put home planet influence zones, not all your planets like that.

Once again I state that they are a space faring race.  They have no planets, their home planet was destroyed.  I was showing the locations of their major fleets.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 18, 2007, 02:55:11 pm
The map will have to be expanded, if it is to include the CAB nations

Those races can just be said to be in the outer rim, where all the old nations are. We could always create a new map.

At martyk, if you don't have a homeplanet then you can't have an influence range. We aren't going to be changing the map every time while they move about the galaxy. We're just going to leave them off the map.

(I also have a similar spacefaring race, the Iinknii, and they aren't on there)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on May 18, 2007, 04:16:30 pm
Alright then.  I'm cool with that.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 19, 2007, 05:17:59 am
The map should be extended out ward into some extra space, (for new races), the inner and outer rims properly mapped, and also someone should put up some NP races on here too, because there might be independant confedrations, renegade governments of already established creatures, and pirate nations, i've always found this to be a good idea.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 19, 2007, 06:11:09 am
Yeah, we need to start adding that type of stuff. It would look so cool if that happened!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 19, 2007, 07:51:32 am
I was just playing around, and i came up with this map:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Galaxy1.jpg)

I used this map as a guide:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Galaxy.jpg) (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Galaxy.jpg)
(click to enlarge)

That is the Milky Way, which I am pretty sure is the RP galaxy (see Naucean history).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 19, 2007, 07:54:27 am
But won't that mean that one day we will meet humans, unless this in the far future/distant past? From what I've gathered, that's bad.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 19, 2007, 07:58:20 am
The Nauceans have already met humans, but Naucean laws state that they can't intervene with sapient creatures until they reach intersolar capabilities.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 19, 2007, 07:59:30 am
Ah, otherside of the galaxy. So contempery then?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on May 19, 2007, 08:07:06 am
The Nauceans have already met humans, but Naucean laws state that they can't intervene with sapient creatures until they reach intersolar capabilities.

and the torpals, and the vis...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 19, 2007, 09:07:51 am
haha, lets worry about the civilizations around us before we meet the humans, lol  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 19, 2007, 11:53:35 am
The Nauceans have already met humans, but Naucean laws state that they can't intervene with sapient creatures until they reach intersolar capabilities.

and the torpals, and the vis...

And the Wexxians… who else do you think played R2-D2?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on May 19, 2007, 11:58:19 am
Thats not an actual pic of the Milky way.  We don't have a picture of it yet.  We haven't had a probe be able to go out far enough to take one...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 19, 2007, 12:16:25 pm
i think we should remove the meeting humas part of the history, as it feels especially corny to be playing in our own galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 19, 2007, 12:33:08 pm
It was just a joke; we all know that there are no such things as humans!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 19, 2007, 12:34:56 pm
Yes, most of the humans I know are caused to melt by sunlight and holy water.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 19, 2007, 12:36:26 pm
Yeah, they are just stories made up by Naucean parents to scare their kids out of becoming insurance salesmen.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 19, 2007, 01:11:25 pm
well that still doesn't make sense ( :P)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 19, 2007, 01:21:57 pm
If you mean the Sun sign; we can just use a picture without it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milky_Way_2005.jpg
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 19, 2007, 02:00:54 pm
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 20, 2007, 02:41:13 am
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)


Yes, you played no part in it whatsoever
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 20, 2007, 05:37:48 am
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)


Yes, you played no part in it whatsoever

Back off you little ursurper  >:(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 20, 2007, 06:15:46 am
If you mean the Sun sign; we can just use a picture without it!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milky_Way_2005.jpg

I doesn't have to be a tight spiral galaxy like that either.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 20, 2007, 08:41:02 am
That is what type of galaxy scientists believe the Milky Way is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milky_Way).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 20, 2007, 08:52:49 am
i know that, but i'm on aboput our galaxy not being the milky way.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 20, 2007, 08:54:22 am
It's the same galaxy. :P I thought we had that resolved ages ago...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on May 20, 2007, 10:07:37 am
I didn't realise that the interactions with Humans were canon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Luminar on May 20, 2007, 10:50:18 am
Put your creature in whichever galaxy you desire to. No-one owns this forum, the time of the popular ones deciding everything about the forum is over. (At least I hope.)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 20, 2007, 11:33:20 am
Thank you guys for reminding me why I hate RPs, no one agrees on anything. Have fun with your map; I'll try to maintain the CAB, but I won't be RPing.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 20, 2007, 12:40:25 pm
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)


Yes, you played no part in it whatsoever

Back off you little ursurper  >:(
Wow an ursurper thats almost as bad as being called an Uoonph-mar.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 20, 2007, 12:44:18 pm
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)


Yes, you played no part in it whatsoever

Back off you little ursurper  >:(
Wow an ursurper thats almost as bad as being called an Uoonph-mar.

At least I dont think bubbles are over-rated.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 20, 2007, 01:24:42 pm
Good to see so much progress with my...er the communities' map  :)


Yes, you played no part in it whatsoever

Back off you little ursurper  >:(
Wow an ursurper thats almost as bad as being called an Uoonph-mar.

At least I dont think bubbles are over-rated.
Hehe bubbles
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 20, 2007, 04:15:22 pm
im new and i created a creature and i want a place right between the Vexarions and the Tinaemesubees please! My guys are called the Shucat
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 20, 2007, 06:20:18 pm
Yeah, we won't have to worry about those humans. They're all going to be dead by 2012 anyway. I think because of some sort of ancient calender ending then.... Mayan?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 20, 2007, 07:10:34 pm
great, now i have 5 years to build a bunker.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 21, 2007, 08:41:59 am
I thought it was time for an update so:
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/8372/mapupdateuj0.png)
many important changes have been made, the area where C.A.B exists has been reserved untill we know who's in it, except the omic who already were on the map. NPC areas have been added including the REDSTAR remenant loyalists. I've added the Galctic senate and the wexxians + others have been changed to "no affiliation", also less noticeably i've changed the two capitals half international colour.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on May 21, 2007, 08:51:41 am
Why is it, out of interest, that some new races are getting huge territories right off the bat? Most of the ones I've seen aren't particularly notable, either.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 08:58:43 am
Agreed, what did I do to deserve so much space?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Xenomorph on May 21, 2007, 10:43:50 am
Why is it, out of interest, that some new races are getting huge territories right off the bat? Most of the ones I've seen aren't particularly notable, either.

are the snouts notable? i hope so. they are in the right upper corner:

(http://usera.imagecave.com/flash/mapupdateuj2.jpg)

Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 10:51:46 am
Please save in PNG format. The quality is becoming worse the more you save it as a JPG.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Xenomorph on May 21, 2007, 10:52:33 am
yeah, noticed that too. i'll change it when i have the time.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 21, 2007, 01:15:34 pm
New update:

(http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9765/mapupdate09dh9.png)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 01:28:13 pm
Cut the Shucats territory in half. Only give them a little, they just started! Give the remaining area left over to the Pirates.

Other than that, keep up the good work everyone!  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 21, 2007, 01:40:51 pm
Just so everyone is aware: The Old REDSTAR is NOT made up of Union races.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 01:56:18 pm
I think i deserve that much land, if not then more!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 01:58:10 pm
Please, you have more than the Thoons or the Wexxians.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 21, 2007, 02:08:32 pm
I think i deserve that much land, if not then more!

No you don't. You don't even deserve 1/3 of that, much less 1/2.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on May 21, 2007, 02:09:34 pm
I would have to agree with Plank and josasa. You haven't really done anything yet, Lopious.

It would be nice if someone could do a big update of the map so that everything looks the same, like gec said, quality is decreasing.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 21, 2007, 02:11:18 pm
Damn, I forgot to remove the Wexxian Worlds!  ???
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:17:21 pm
Ill take them!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 02:18:13 pm
you dont get anything!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:18:49 pm
No, you can go back to bed as its 6:00 PM where-ever you live, far too late for your age.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 21, 2007, 02:20:27 pm
Its 4:oo where i am ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:21:17 pm
Ah good, better get back to bed, far too late for someone your age/maturity.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 02:21:43 pm
6 and 4? Im in 5:21 here!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 21, 2007, 02:22:02 pm
No land at all more like it. We should annex it so the Zakraa have safer passage to the rest of the NU.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:22:37 pm
that is my land!  >:(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 21, 2007, 02:25:03 pm
Not any more. We took it, and destroyed your little cheesecake stall on your homeplanet. Muhaha!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 21, 2007, 02:25:22 pm
Well not really. First there was no community vote. Second your race was destroyed in the universes most miss managed,shortest, and stupidest war that you started.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:26:55 pm
it was the only war that i started!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 21, 2007, 02:27:49 pm
it was the only war that i started!
and you were defeated. There are several reports of your planets being bombed.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:29:41 pm
Face it, you dont even deserve a place on the map.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:30:00 pm
one more try?  :'(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:33:20 pm
No, I hope our nice mods will come soon and IP ban you.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:35:56 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:37:02 pm
While the mods arive, please play as much WoW as possible.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:37:40 pm
How will i be forgived?  :'(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 21, 2007, 02:38:06 pm
You wont.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:39:43 pm
You'll simply be ignored by everyone on this part of the forum.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 02:41:28 pm
Oh, don't be too harsh. However, as punishment his creature will need to be isolated from everyone else's from RPing until it is considered appropriate.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 21, 2007, 02:41:56 pm
Agreed.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 21, 2007, 02:42:29 pm
And may not interfere in galactic affairs until one month from today, 21st of May 2007 has passed.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 21, 2007, 02:42:47 pm
Oh fine, now I am the least mature one again.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 21, 2007, 02:43:33 pm
No weare.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Lopious on May 21, 2007, 02:44:16 pm
Fine. Ill make sure it is the best creature you will ever see! Lets all ignore these threads for 1 month!

Cause Knowledge is Power!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 02:44:21 pm
Also Lopious, may I suggest a deep and considerate study of this thread. It may help you in the future.

http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=5390.0 (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=5390.0)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 02:45:23 pm
agreed. One month works for me. We will see you then!

And ps, dont attack my empire first!  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 02:53:33 pm
I think we should split the Shucots empire between the major powers the were invloved in this quick war thing for one month for now.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on May 21, 2007, 03:00:19 pm
No, we clear that space of the map and leave it as-is.  No recognition should be given of this little event.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: TaylorFlame on May 22, 2007, 01:25:38 am
Now I have to defend the UZW against pirates!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kratok on May 22, 2007, 02:07:32 am
I say we give those punishments to Microgta aswell.

Edit: Ah nevermind. I saw the war thread. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA your so damned stupid.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 22, 2007, 09:29:32 am
i'm working on a new map, it should be here by tomorrow, any updates do them on the old one and i'll add them.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: GCool on May 22, 2007, 03:39:10 pm
Out of interest, would this be ok?

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h5/generalleycool/mapupdate_gc.png)

Note that the corvala stretch out further, being on an old planet with a rushed space age. The black outline is the extent of where they have space stations and inhabited planets, but the bit inside the blue circle is where the corvala acctually have a teratory that they feicely defend, and are most likely to be found (outside there they are constantly cloaked and keep quite with activities). The red bit is their old home solarsystem can be located.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 22, 2007, 04:14:00 pm
I say we give those punishments to Microgta aswell.

Edit: Ah nevermind. I saw the war thread. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA your so damned stupid.
What do you mean?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 22, 2007, 05:45:38 pm
Gah, how dare these headstrong newbs demand more space on my...er...our map!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: GCool on May 23, 2007, 03:43:38 am
I hope that's not aimed at me, that was just a suggestion, I don't mind cutting back a bit...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on May 23, 2007, 07:02:53 am
I don't think it was aimed at you Gc, you've been here over a year.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 09:24:32 am
@gcool, i don't think your supposed to be out there, the point is that is a controled area, the species that live there have become so technologically advanvenced that they have moved beyond this world and grafted themselves into somekind of walking computer program(at least that what i say because it makes them sound better) also i've put you on the new map.

Here is a comparison of the two maps, one is grafted onto the other in the fiorst pic then theres the old and new ones:
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1981/mapcomparisonsqh6.png)

Also heres a link to the new one:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3165/newmapnn3.png (http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/3165/newmapnn3.png)
it includes a new scale!!! i also took of the wexxian worlds because i assumed that was what jackzetter was appling when he said he forgot to take them off, anything to change, tell me plz.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 23, 2007, 09:30:06 am
You jus had to reshape the pirate area, didn't you?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 09:31:30 am
well it's hard to draw an exact shape, and it just fitted in around everything else in the same places.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 23, 2007, 09:33:13 am
The only problem is I have to make another RP map..... kinda annoying for someone who can't use the full capacity of one brain cell.


(http://images.yuku.com/image/bmp/81f15b69c2a1560fc3900bd1180cb0692a89f48.bmp)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 23, 2007, 10:18:17 am
You removed Azuron!  >:(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 23, 2007, 12:19:16 pm
What was that all about? Randomly reshaping space for no good reason?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 23, 2007, 12:22:44 pm
Dont forget the Suntor movements and that planet that blew up. And the Suntor command post
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 12:26:25 pm
@Brandonazz:  that was a remake of the old map because people were complaining about the quality

@Jack Zetter:  ??? was that directed at me?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 12:29:57 pm
new post for a new update that corected some problems with the first re-do aswell as adding some more NPC factions.

(http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/420/newmapbm7.png)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Bodica on May 23, 2007, 12:34:58 pm
can the slitheran be put here

(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z309/bodica11/newmapbm7.png)

i can't write on paint so can someone do it for me?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 23, 2007, 12:36:55 pm
(He is talking about the nameless spot below mine.)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 12:46:18 pm
yup i'll do that now.

(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/598/newmapie8.png)

Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 23, 2007, 12:51:11 pm
May I inquire about the HUGE place Beyon City is taking in? Also, I find the size of the Arkibal province rather large, regardless of newly annexed territory. I also sense this map is getting too large. We should either down-scale, or make the picture bigger. Perhaps a flash-skilled person could make a semi-interactive map out of it?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 12:58:48 pm
Beyon city isn't taking up space, it may seem so but that is free space boxed in by other factions, also the Arkibal empire has always been that large.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 23, 2007, 01:05:37 pm
@Brandonazz:  that was a remake of the old map because people were complaining about the quality

@Jack Zetter:  ??? was that directed at me?

There was no quality problem before, the format left it fine. The only quality mentioned was when someone re-uploaded a map that was never used again.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 23, 2007, 01:06:37 pm
Has it? Also, just a question: what's with the new shapes that the Auyuelcliads have now?

And could you perhaps expand the Yunimius land into the Austian west, and give them some more in the east?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 23, 2007, 01:08:23 pm
i'll have all that soted by tommorow, and also i'm open to any other criticisms
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 23, 2007, 01:28:41 pm
Yeah it was directed at you.

Ad Azuron(International territory) next to Beyond in your next update.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 23, 2007, 01:53:02 pm
I would like to add some planets that are in the Pirate Control Zone. GS-267 can be labeled as a dead planet considering it was blown up. And a new planet Cadmar was recently taken by the Suntors. Its all in the Pirate war thread.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 23, 2007, 02:00:23 pm
I would like to add some planets that are in the Pirate Control Zone. GS-267 can be labeled as a dead planet considering it was blown up. And a new planet Cadmar was recently taken by the Suntors. Its all in the Pirate war thread.

We're not labeling specific planets, only those that are important and the homeworlds of each race.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on May 23, 2007, 02:01:58 pm
In the next update, could you have the Fredonian Alliance represented by an arrow pointing off the map?  I didn't want them to be that close to other territories.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 23, 2007, 02:03:24 pm
*sighs* ok but what about the one the Suntors have taken
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: TaylorFlame on May 23, 2007, 02:28:42 pm
Extend the Zakraa up through the Pirate territories, until it reaches the Arkibal territory. Keep it the same width as the rest of the UZW. That is to represent the end of the war.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on May 23, 2007, 02:29:33 pm
shouldnt the map size be increased?


also, how is it you get added?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 23, 2007, 03:38:01 pm
Im going to need a wormhole to be created from the Peski's to the Torpals please  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on May 23, 2007, 04:09:48 pm
You've got to be freaking kidding, having all the old CAB empires the same size or smaller than some new ones.

I strongly object.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 23, 2007, 04:35:32 pm
You've got to be freaking kidding, having all the old CAB empires the same size or smaller than some new ones.

I strongly object.

agreed. Some of the species area needs to be given up.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on May 23, 2007, 05:35:19 pm
This is why we did not make a map before :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on May 23, 2007, 05:43:12 pm
This thing had a good run, but i think it's time is up. Although we could erase the territory lines and instead show the general position of an empire/nation. This way there is no fighting over how large someone's territory is. It would just show the basic layout of out galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on May 23, 2007, 06:02:29 pm
I agree, and after all, locations remain much more concrete than territory lines and therefore require less revision.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on May 23, 2007, 07:13:23 pm
Im ok with that. But if someone still continues, i need a WO  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 23, 2007, 07:28:00 pm
The Oifan-Umtag are in the Outer Rim, so if you want to include them, you'll need to either enlarge the map, or make a new one for the Outer Rim. Once someone has started an expanded map or a new Outer Rim map, I will add the Oifan-Umtag myself. I'm not a greedy person, so that seems fair to me.

Edit: And if that's 100 lightyears, then this is either a very tiny postion of the galaxy, or it's a tiny galaxy. For instance, the Milky Way is approximately 100,000 light years wide.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on May 23, 2007, 08:25:02 pm
yea, there needs to be a more practical way to add to the map.

we would also need to add the inner rim at some point for the "uncivilized" races.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on May 23, 2007, 09:44:41 pm
The outer rim and inner core would be great for RPing. Though the plot may not exactly be original, I'm sure someone could come up with a twist.  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: TaylorFlame on May 24, 2007, 12:00:52 am
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a301/TaylorRF/mapofgalaxy.jpg)

Slightly updated map. I was going to edit the CAB races, but I don't know what they all want to do.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: aligon on May 24, 2007, 12:58:06 am
This looks interesting, despite the large amount of spam and all the objections to even having a map in the first place.
Just wondering if you guys wouldn't mind pasting the Agnoculus (my creature) in there somewhere? Maybe I'm too late or something (also, I haven't updated my creature in a while, AND I never really participated in any RPs...)
I'll settle for the itsy-bitsy-est bit of land you can spare, or whatever makes sense in this context, because I really have no idea what the history of the galaxy is, and I don't really know most of you guys' creatures that well either.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 24, 2007, 09:23:58 am
I vote for a completely new map to be made






Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Neoteric on May 24, 2007, 09:50:23 am
Right, erm...

I've expanded the map so it includes the Outer Rim, Inner Rim and the uninhabitable core.
Furthermore, I've made the galaxy, well, circular.
Going on the scale, the galaxy is still only about 35000 light years wide.

Before you click, I'm warning you. This file is HUGE. And it's saved as a jpeg, so it's lost some quality.
Current one as jpg is 280kb, Original quality, saved as png, is 690kb. So if you click it, don't blame me if it crashes. :D
Here is the low quality. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/chaos42/map.jpg)
And here is the high quality. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/chaos42/mapcopy.png)

Personally, I think we should redefine each race's areas now, so if you want, I'll remove the current creature locations.
You know, putting the CAB races into the outer rim, and stuff.
If you think any changes should be made, tell me. ;)
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Post by: Bodica on May 24, 2007, 09:57:36 am
thats amazing!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 24, 2007, 09:58:15 am
Great! Now we just need races on the other side of the Galaxy.....
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 24, 2007, 10:05:02 am
Nice!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: GCool on May 24, 2007, 10:15:42 am
Niiice.

I request a wormhole from the corvala's location to the exact oposite side of the core =D

That way, I can lure people into my area to travel the distance quickly, then charge them toll...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 24, 2007, 10:17:05 am
Seems your wormhole invention will now come in handy Jack. :D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 24, 2007, 12:19:53 pm
Wow, why was nobody interested in my map BEFORE these people got their hands on it??

 :'(
 :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 24, 2007, 12:22:01 pm
It's all about presentation. Paint alone doesn't do it justice.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on May 24, 2007, 12:27:20 pm
I suggest the nations get unsquished. Nice new map :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on May 24, 2007, 12:32:09 pm
What if the Nations claim some land on the other side of the galaxy, like the British Empire
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 24, 2007, 12:49:42 pm
Because that is needlessly complicated. It would be best for more races to be discovered before we shift to the other side of the galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on May 24, 2007, 01:55:02 pm
I like the new version of the map better, but the parts from the old map need to be totally redone. What are the chances that all these races live so close, in neat organized groups based on allegiance? We need to have general locations, not territories.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 24, 2007, 02:02:22 pm
I agree. Territories need to be left out. It should just be location only.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 24, 2007, 02:28:39 pm
Im sorry if this is off topic or anything but are there any humans in the galaxy? cause if there arnt itd be cool if the Suntors could discover them on their planet ot on some planet in the inner rim or somthing. After all it says in the Suntor Dossier that they are exploring new territories.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Neoteric on May 24, 2007, 02:29:17 pm
I agree. Territories need to be left out. It should just be location only.

Never should have been on there like that in the first place, in my opinion.
Territories lead to disputes, turning this thread into a warzone rather than a map.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if races had numerous large colonies, scattered about the galaxy, as well as certain races' territory being surrounded by the same territory. The Hiithel's territory, for example, is located inside the Corvala's.

Perhaps there should be some designation of respective area, but it should be done in a different way. The Beyon city division thing worked quite well. My idea is we divide the area up into squares, and give each race a number of squares, depending on their status on the forum.
We would first have to set limits on the areas that can be claimed by different races; in location and amount of space.
With the right rules, and some modesty on the from the creature creators, I think it could work rather well.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on May 24, 2007, 02:31:28 pm
Im sorry if this is off topic or anything but are there any humans in the galaxy? cause if there arnt itd be cool if the Suntors could discover them on their planet ot on some planet in the inner rim or somthing. After all it says in the Suntor Dossier that they are exploring new territories.

That is left out in the main timeline of the fanfic history. Some creatures had their own version of them meeting humans and you're welcome to do so as well. However, they do not exist in the main stream of time or in the same galaxy that we are playing here.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Haseri on May 24, 2007, 02:33:54 pm
If you have not noticed, this is a elliptical galaxy (albeit a circular one) not a spiral (like the Milky way).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: aligon on May 24, 2007, 03:05:15 pm
I agree. Territories need to be left out. It should just be location only.
Never should have been on there like that in the first place, in my opinion.
Territories lead to disputes, turning this thread into a warzone rather than a map.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if races had numerous large colonies, scattered about the galaxy, as well as certain races' territory being surrounded by the same territory. The Hiithel's territory, for example, is located inside the Corvala's.

Also, the galaxy is three-dimensional, and if it is an elliptical galaxy, it's probably going to be thick enough to host multiple nations or species on one single area of the map, but layered up and down.
As a matter of fact, it would be cool if someone made a second map, but like an "edge-on" profile of the galaxy, so we can get a more 3-D idea of how the species are organized.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: GCool on May 24, 2007, 03:39:07 pm
As far as I can tell, most RPs have to be based at roughley the same time and galaxy as each other, unless there is a seperate project or it isn't a main-stream RP. Given the size of the milky way, any of the events could easily transfer.

I have plans for the corvala to make human contact. Hopefully they won't beat me to it ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: microgta on May 24, 2007, 03:56:04 pm
Your on ((lol jk im not really on all that much so youll probably beat me to it))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: TaylorFlame on May 25, 2007, 12:41:25 am
I think we should ditch territories all together, and just have home planets. As it is a galaxy, we can assume borders are constantly changing due to the massive scale of things, so just having home planets would be a good idea. If someone did it in flash it would be excellent.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on May 25, 2007, 07:18:06 am
In that case, we should have MANY colonies labeled, not just home planets. At least leave the "main area" things so that there is some idea as to each species' range of influence.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on May 25, 2007, 01:20:29 pm
I think we should have smaller circles on the zone where the active races reside that represent a solar system for the race, each one containing a number (the number of planets in the system) and the approximate location of the race's homeworld in the system, as well as the race(s) living there and the name they have given it. It should also include the faction they belong to, and the homeworld should be color-codd by breathable atmosphere. It could even be drawn to scale.

For example, here is a quick Paint mock-up:

(http://i8.tinypic.com/4xymubo.png)

The number of planets is five, it belongs to the race Samplites, is named Samply, has allegiance to whatever faction red represents, their homeworld is Home, and it's atmosphere is made of "green."
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on May 25, 2007, 03:02:32 pm
Right, erm...

I've expanded the map so it includes the Outer Rim, Inner Rim and the uninhabitable core.
Furthermore, I've made the galaxy, well, circular.
Going on the scale, the galaxy is still only about 35000 light years wide.

Before you click, I'm warning you. This file is HUGE. And it's saved as a jpeg, so it's lost some quality.
Current one as jpg is 280kb, Original quality, saved as png, is 690kb. So if you click it, don't blame me if it crashes. :D
Here is the low quality. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/chaos42/map.jpg)
And here is the high quality. (http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/chaos42/mapcopy.png)

Personally, I think we should redefine each race's areas now, so if you want, I'll remove the current creature locations.
You know, putting the CAB races into the outer rim, and stuff.
If you think any changes should be made, tell me. ;)


I suggest uploading the .PNG to a file hosting place (such as this, http://www.mediafire.com/ (http://www.mediafire.com/)) so that others can edit the map if need be.

Edit: Also, I suggested the galaxy map be of systems instead of fields of influence a long time ago. (Similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Modimapgalaxy1.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Modimapgalaxy1.jpg))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: aligon on May 25, 2007, 04:21:41 pm
Edit: Also, I suggested the galaxy map be of systems instead of fields of influence a long time ago. (Similar to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Modimapgalaxy1.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Modimapgalaxy1.jpg))

Seems like a better idea to me. Also, that Star Wars map looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kratok on May 25, 2007, 06:27:12 pm
That looks alot like what were doing anyways....
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 26, 2007, 04:11:04 am
i've always wanted to make an interactive flash maop, but i don't have flash, so could someone else please consider that idea.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on May 26, 2007, 11:03:38 am
I know were making a New map, but I added my territory and dead Zones (areas of depleted life and recources) to the inner rim. How do I post The Pic?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on May 26, 2007, 01:35:54 pm
Use imageshack for hosting
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: GCool on May 26, 2007, 02:40:45 pm
Hmmm, It'd be cool to have a flash one, but alot of work... Unless, somehow, it was dynamic... Hmmmm...


I wonder how possible it'd be to make a flash change according to a txt file?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Neoteric on May 26, 2007, 03:48:30 pm
-rips open copy of Macromedia Studio 8-
I'll give it a go.
I've never used flash before, so this should be fun. ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on May 26, 2007, 03:52:40 pm
Good luck mate!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on June 21, 2007, 10:15:45 am
I added NNTA and the Theans... Any problems?

Picture here (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z83/Darth_Grievi/Spore/map2.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Doctor Z on June 21, 2007, 04:31:10 pm
Not only are the Azimuth No Affiliation.... They're dead....
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on June 21, 2007, 04:32:10 pm
Eh, I used the most recent map, which wasn't all that recent aparently...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on June 21, 2007, 04:38:47 pm
Yeah, the Oifan-Umtag aren't anywhere near there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on June 26, 2007, 10:35:12 am
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=1ntxwyvtmmo&thumb=4
A temp position. The real location is on the other side of the galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: emmet on June 26, 2007, 10:41:03 am
Hehe, the Torpals are touching the Omic.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on June 26, 2007, 11:05:05 am
You sick little monkey....
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: sporelord on July 22, 2007, 11:31:48 am
Can you put the ocytos on please (asome where near the pirates in the north areA.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Doctor Z on July 30, 2007, 01:13:43 pm
Damnit, EVERYWHERE I LOOK, THE AZIMUTH ARE ON THE MAP! Take them off, and give there territory to my next race, the Nonami.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on July 31, 2007, 02:31:41 am
Awww, but melikes the robophobiacs.  :(
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on July 31, 2007, 09:53:30 am
I updated the full map. your welcome.

plus I added my things

http://i18.tinypic.com/4tu6b5u.png

if you know a way to upload it larger, I'm open.

Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Doctor Z on July 31, 2007, 11:58:26 am
Awww, but melikes the robophobiacs.  :(
So do I. SOOO... The Nonami will be.... *drum roll* ROBOPHOBES!!! Woo.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Silverfish on July 31, 2007, 12:13:04 pm
Hmm... I've always liked how the folicans are right next to the 'Pirate Area'.

Not sure if that's 'official' or what, but.. Feel very free to keep 'um there. It fit ever so well with my idea of them.

(And, hopefully, I'll convince myself to get more active and not just lurk so's I can explain that. :P)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on July 31, 2007, 01:44:44 pm
Awww, but melikes the robophobiacs.  :(
So do I. SOOO... The Nonami will be.... *drum roll* ROBOPHOBES!!! Woo.

Robophobe: (noun) "A person who is guaranteed to say "I told you so" in the end."
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on July 31, 2007, 03:09:43 pm
That text is too small. We need to make it bigger somehow methinks.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on August 11, 2007, 11:35:35 am
here is both of mine (graid and thulithotle) on the normal map

(http://i14.tinypic.com/5yx1zzq.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 12, 2007, 01:14:30 pm
I think I'm going to remove the circles as requested, and replace it with the capital systems. I'm keeping the areas of influence though.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: SimGameFan on August 24, 2007, 10:34:17 am
Here is the map with the Zyther (my species) on it. Their system has drifted quite a bit from it's original location when they first appeared.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Snake on August 24, 2007, 01:54:52 pm
You don't have to worry about the Miala, they're taggin along with the Wexxians.  ;). Just in case you noticed them.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on August 24, 2007, 04:24:19 pm
Why are you guys still using the map with all the misplaced races on it? Both the Oifan-Umtag and the Mallen (and maybe others) are in the outer rim. So either take them off, or make a map so I can correctly place myself.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on August 24, 2007, 06:35:38 pm
Technically the Kratair shouldn't even be on their as their fleets are nomadic.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 25, 2007, 02:13:28 pm
Could the Barroc planet of Kuluch Narch be added there?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 25, 2007, 06:11:40 pm
I'm making a new map without the large colored circled, and instead putting the species and their homeworld. Now to begin the laborious task of finding them all.

EDIT: So far.

(http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/7393/newgalaxyoq6.jpg)

The picture is JPEG, so don't try to edit it. Just tell me what to change and I'll fix it on the base version.

I did searches, and put the main star for the system name if the system name wasn't provided, and the home planet for the system name is the star name wasn't provided. If nothing was provided or I just haven't reached it yet there is no name.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on August 25, 2007, 08:01:58 pm
NNTA (home system Shentra) should have a very small territory somewhere near the inner rim.

Thean Sanction (home system Thea) can pretty much be anywhere away from the "main group"
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on August 25, 2007, 08:26:38 pm
Okay, can you please make the Oifan-Umtag/Mallen territory look more like this:

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Galaxy-1.png)

Explanation: The Oifan-Umtag do not control a very large area of other systems, so their area is rather small. The Mallen home planet lies entirely within this area and consists of just their home system. In actuality, Hagunda and Aquana are only 5 light years apart. I've already worked all this out with LadyM, in case you want to confirm this with her.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on August 25, 2007, 08:34:29 pm
Remove the Kratair if you'd be so kind.  Their location isn't static so it'd be pointless to have them on there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 25, 2007, 09:15:13 pm
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/2917/newgalaxyie6.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on August 25, 2007, 09:20:50 pm
Thank you, that is much better. Also, with the new map style, you could theoretically show other important systems that aren't capitals.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 25, 2007, 09:47:38 pm
The Arkibals actually have 9 other systems I believe, each with a name, and I plan to put them on there. Of course other species do, but the Arkibal thread has their names.

I think Peskis have some more systems in their thread somewhere as well.

Edit: Here we are.

(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8195/newgalaxyeb0.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on August 26, 2007, 12:03:40 am
haha, that is very lovely  ;D

It definently doesnt look like Europe anymore, lol
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 26, 2007, 01:32:09 am
Who are 'The Ancients''?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 26, 2007, 07:33:46 am
Some of the first and most powerful species.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: SimGameFan on August 26, 2007, 10:00:09 am
Oh, dang it. I didn't post my addition to the map for some reason. Anyways, seeing the updated map I made a new version.

(http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/4249/newgalaxymt2.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Axelgear on August 26, 2007, 10:05:33 am
This is a lot of space. If this is a segment of a galaxy, this space would only be a tiny, tiny fragment of it. Teensy.

If the Loricatii were on here, they'd be on the Outer Rim, next to one of the "elbows". A bit off of this map, actually. So I guess they aren't on here. Huh.

And away I go!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Snake on August 26, 2007, 11:02:13 am
It may be smarter to zoom out a bit with a bigger map guys.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on August 26, 2007, 11:03:30 am
Yep. The massive original should be around on this thread somewhere...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 26, 2007, 01:29:52 pm
Oh, dang it. I didn't post my addition to the map for some reason. Anyways, seeing the updated map I made a new version.

-snip-

I'll add you in to the base map to avoid all that corruption.

EDIT:

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9984/newgalaxyno0.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 26, 2007, 01:49:14 pm
Lol ''Here be pirates.'' Why not add: ''Here is no civilisation, creatures eat babies here.''
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 26, 2007, 01:50:08 pm
Because there is civilization there, pirate civilization. As in pirate states and mobile home fleets.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 26, 2007, 02:40:06 pm
Because there is civilization there, pirate civilization. As in pirate states and mobile home fleets.
I meant in the Inner Rim.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 26, 2007, 03:14:32 pm
Well you didn't say that. It's fine the way it is.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 27, 2007, 11:45:37 am
What do those 20 races mean BTW? Are those the ones still in progress?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 27, 2007, 11:48:01 am
Those numbers are the names of systems that the matching number appears next to on the map.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on August 27, 2007, 12:18:11 pm
You forgot to remove the K'jal empire.  They're destroyed now.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on August 27, 2007, 01:07:08 pm
Erm? Oh yes, terrible loss.  ::)

You had better start RPing with that new species soon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 27, 2007, 01:36:22 pm
You forgot to remove the K'jal empire.  They're destroyed now.
Wha? I loved the K'jal! They were the complete opposite of my creatures!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on August 27, 2007, 02:57:32 pm
Tha K'jalians kicked ass man! I loved the back-and-forth between K'xora and the other delegates.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on August 27, 2007, 02:58:15 pm
Who knows?  They may return  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on August 28, 2007, 08:34:50 am
Who knows?  They may return  ;)
God bless genetic cloning.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on September 19, 2007, 04:53:14 pm
how can my race be put on there?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 19, 2007, 05:54:18 pm
Tell me thier name, location, and size (within reason).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on September 19, 2007, 06:54:21 pm
pg 32 of this thread, I put it the graid territories on the old map (this was before the new one was started)

I had the territory divided, but only outline it as one area.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on September 20, 2007, 02:24:48 pm
Please add the Kreego. They could go in that big patch next to the Vexarions and Has'ri.

Also, the Tropians could go into the Inner Rim, where the uncivilized creatures go, because, well... They aren't very nice...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 20, 2007, 02:39:32 pm
Added them.

(http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3453/newgalaxyay4.jpg)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on September 20, 2007, 05:26:11 pm
With the K'jal gone the Forthi have annexed their former area. Most of it (about half) is now under the New Forthi Delegation province of the New Union.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 20, 2007, 05:39:08 pm
I assume the AoH forces occupy the other half. I'll edit it into the next version.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Little on September 20, 2007, 06:29:03 pm
If it wouldn't be a pain, could you edit my species into the AoH half?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on September 20, 2007, 06:34:55 pm
I noticed a small little inconsistency with the Communicant space. New Tsii is their homeworld in the other galaxy, their planets in the Enclave aren't really their capital, and only really serve as a foothold in this galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on September 20, 2007, 06:36:49 pm
I haven't looked at this map in a while, but...shouldn't the torpals be in the outer rim?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 20, 2007, 06:52:36 pm
I noticed a small little inconsistency with the Communicant space. New Tsii is their homeworld in the other galaxy, their planets in the Enclave aren't really their capital, and only really serve as a foothold in this galaxy.

Actually, when I checked your thread it said Tsii was their homeworld, so I took the liberty of naming their capital in this galaxy New Tsii. Am I mistaken?

I haven't looked at this map in a while, but...shouldn't the torpals be in the outer rim?

I'll stretch their space outward a bit in the next update  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on September 20, 2007, 07:03:35 pm
sorry for a repeated request, but the shallow and jagged graid share the same homeworld. guess you could just put a single object down the middle.  the serrated is sepperate and fine where it is.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Tavenknaughtlin on September 20, 2007, 08:56:16 pm
I noticed a small little inconsistency with the Communicant space. New Tsii is their homeworld in the other galaxy, their planets in the Enclave aren't really their capital, and only really serve as a foothold in this galaxy.

Actually, when I checked your thread it said Tsii was their homeworld, so I took the liberty of naming their capital in this galaxy New Tsii. Am I mistaken?

Lol, woops. Nope, you got it right. They don't really have a capital here in this galaxy though, but I suppose a 'main' planet named New Tsii doesn't sound bad at all. Don't mind me, just suffered from a brain-spasm  ;D.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on September 21, 2007, 07:55:20 pm
I haven't looked at this map in a while, but...shouldn't the torpals be in the outer rim?

I'll stretch their space outward a bit in the next update  ;)

thaaaank you  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 22, 2007, 07:27:12 am
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6092/newgalaxyrt6.jpg)

Also, shouldn't this be stickied? I mean if the timeline is, why not the map?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on September 22, 2007, 08:21:13 am
Good point.

You know, it would be possible to increase the size of the map as long as you keep it in the same style as it is now and in .png format. You'd just have to click to view the whole thing. I only mention this cause it's starting to look rather crowded...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 22, 2007, 08:29:23 am
Do you mean to expand the map as in a larger part of the galaxy, or as in make the image larger?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on September 22, 2007, 08:31:50 am
The first one. You may be able to spread/reorganize the current part of the map as well though.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 22, 2007, 08:36:44 am
I seem to be unable to continue the curves properly without copypasting onto the old glactic map somebody made.

Here's the PNG if someone would be so kind. (http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1707/newgalaxyfz2.png)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on September 22, 2007, 08:51:29 am
Okay, I just whipped this up really fast. If you like where it's going I can clean it up so it's more presentable.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Test1.png (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Test1.png)

Edit: notice that despite being over 3000 x 3000 pixels, it's only 145 kb in file size.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on September 22, 2007, 09:04:46 am
I am intrigued.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on September 22, 2007, 08:43:16 pm
Change the Sombreron's homeworld name to Shivol. It's name was Shivaruu prior to the Halycon war.

Also, we might want to name quadrants.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on September 22, 2007, 10:29:18 pm
what about non space-faring creatures? how about you give all the territory around the planet to my serrated group, and give the other two just the planet to share.
it looks like that was done with the mallen.

PlzGrtThnx
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on September 25, 2007, 02:48:03 pm
And could you add Caeluminica?

Its way off from the other species with almost no territory:  Just one system.

If you are naming the areas by creature name, they are Luminicans.  If by planet name, Caeluminica.  If by star name, Radiacae.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: The Time Traveller on September 28, 2007, 03:59:56 pm
Add Flatulen and Jwalania, please.  They must be near the Mon-Krai, because they were the first to descend to it.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: emmet on October 07, 2007, 02:25:19 am
Mufaloe - Halway between Inner rim and the Middle Rim.

Omic - Hidric was their old sun. Current sun is New Hidrik. :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on October 07, 2007, 02:31:05 am
Could someone add the Barroc there? They have decent-sized territory with their homeplanet being Kuluch Narch. Just put them into some dark corner of the universe or something.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on October 15, 2007, 07:48:30 pm
Change the Sombreron's homeworld name to Shivol. It's name was Shivaruu prior to the Halycon war.

Also, we might want to name quadrants.

I think quadrants would be a good idea. Might make it a little more orderly.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on October 17, 2007, 01:15:24 pm
The Forthi territories have been annexed legally by both the Yunimius and the Auyuelcliads. As of today there is no more Forthi state.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on October 25, 2007, 10:35:27 pm
Could you guys please add the Terran-Ixians? :)

They live in another galaxy (Galaxy-10258), but they could still be put in the RP Galaxy map by making an arrow point to the upper-leftmost side of the map until it reaches the edge of the map with a caption saying: Terran-Ixians, Ariadne, Galaxy-10258.

Note:
Terran-Ixian = Singular
Terran-Ixians = plural
Terran-Ixian = Adjective
Ariadne = homeworld and name of government/civilization
Galaxy-10258 = home galaxy

Thanks guys ;)

EDIT: Oh yeah. I forgot.

The Terran-Ixians have recently established an outpost in the RP galaxy's core (right in the very middle of the core). How they did this, I will tell when I have the time to update the TI thread in the creature corner. ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 01:31:33 pm
I talked to brandon about this a couple of days ago... he said hes too lazy feeling to actually update this, and something out about it not being organized.  I offered to help or take over, but he didnt know

dead?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on October 26, 2007, 02:01:56 pm
Meh, go ahead and update it.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 02:04:24 pm
personally, i think the boundaries need to be redrawn and the thing either abandoned or redone from scratch

are you doing it Brandon, or are you gonna leave it up to me now?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on October 26, 2007, 02:08:01 pm
Keep doing it the way it's been done, just add the new species and make the corrections mentioned.

Otherwise, just leave it for me to do later.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 02:11:45 pm
Hmm, ill do it, but I have no clue what most of those things mean, as well as why things are as big as they are.. and such forum history.  Thats why i suggested a new map without any "areas" and just planetary names and such.. nor the deal with wormholes and their strategic positions

Likewise, Id like for you guys to all put in requests to be added again from this point.  Im busy as it is, and dont have time to go looking and trying to figure out this entire thread and history stuff.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 03:38:15 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/GalaxyNumbers.png)

With a grid system, i think this could be easier to do..  Ill add to this map from here on out, if you want to be put back on... select a grid square, claim it, and tell me your creature name..  Multiple planets can be in the same square.  Id also like for someone to update me on important places that deserve notoreity.

The upper left corner = A1, The one to its right = A2, The one below = B1, etc.. etc.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on October 26, 2007, 05:32:42 pm
And whatever you do, save it as a .PNG format. .JPGs degrade incredibly fast.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 05:47:58 pm
I guess this map is to be the most current, not including any historical places that are no longer existing or dead races...

Whatever is currently active, not extinct, not ascended to a higher plane.. etc.  Ignore OMYL stuff
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on October 26, 2007, 05:52:20 pm
Also, a large map like this might be neat:

Okay, I just whipped this up really fast. If you like where it's going I can clean it up so it's more presentable.

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Test1.png (http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Test1.png)

Edit: notice that despite being over 3000 x 3000 pixels, it's only 145 kb in file size.

Keep in mind that you have to save it as .PNG and that you have to keep the colors simple. The more colors you use in a .PNG file the larger the file size.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on October 26, 2007, 06:09:49 pm
Just draw an arrow at the bottom or right , and say "Fredonain Alliance space that way."
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 06:31:15 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/GalaxyNumbers.png)

redid the map to this.. may look small.. scale is huge.. but 10 x 10 grid is enough for my half..
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 07:00:51 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxy.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxy.png)

Click for bigger image

Thank you to Ovi and Inkling for kicking off.. Now you guys should get an idea of what I need... feel free to populate wherever you like
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on October 26, 2007, 07:39:40 pm
I don't like it, the species are supposed to inhabit only a small part of the galaxy. The image is too small.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on October 26, 2007, 07:44:49 pm
It's a work in progress, it'll get bigger later.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 26, 2007, 08:01:05 pm
there, expanded to 3000 x 3000 and the stars reduced slightly.. jesus, give it some time, its a good system ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on October 26, 2007, 08:45:25 pm
Yeah. I use a system like that myself, only I divvy it up as core, Inner plain, Outer Plain, and rim. I also have a quadrant system goin just for good measure...


Eh... I'll add my guys in once we have things set in stone.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on October 27, 2007, 03:02:48 am
     You guys revamped the map, eh. :) This system is way easier to use. The old won made my head hurt. :D

     Anyways, just put my Terran-Ixians at the very center of the galactic core. Their homeworld is in another galaxy but they do have a command center at the galactic core. :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yannick on October 27, 2007, 05:36:42 am
Put the Eyecons somewhere far right in the middle rim.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 27, 2007, 05:59:12 am
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate1.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate1.png)

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I was informed that no one can have the core of the galaxy for two reasons:

one, supermassive blackhole or something that is supposedly at the core of galaxies
two, it shows some form of dominance over the galaxy (not to sure on this one)

so.. fo rnow, i just kinda.. blocked it off XD Put your TIs close as I could
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Post by: Yokto on October 27, 2007, 06:41:52 am
Ehh.... I can see not see the name of the star systems. Also would it not be better to use a less flashy map?
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Post by: Dr. Croccer on October 27, 2007, 07:17:44 am
Put the Barroc Confederacy somewhere on the border between the Middle and Inner Rims.

I like the new map, but some of the names are a little small.
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Post by: Infernal on October 27, 2007, 07:19:40 am
alright grr.. you people need to make up your mind how you want it.  I had it big and nice where the words could be seen, but brandon over there complained that they were to big.  The image limit is 800X800, and I know some people want their creatures, like INkling, away from everyone else, so ovi elected the idea of the circular map

how do you want this done...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 27, 2007, 07:26:24 am
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate2.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate2.png)

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That work better?  I made the text a few points bigger
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on October 27, 2007, 08:10:21 am
Yup, much better.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yokto on October 27, 2007, 08:54:44 am
In general is better to have a small preview of the map then link to a lager full map.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 27, 2007, 09:46:08 am
Fixed then...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Blarg on October 27, 2007, 08:17:49 pm
Looks great, Infernal! You did a really good job.  :)

Also, Blargbells. They shall go in Square H7. The middle-left should do nicely.  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 28, 2007, 03:41:57 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate3.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate3.png)

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I will probably, most likely, update the next map with equally spaced wormholes within the middle rim.  Youll notice the Epoc on there, which I will post their thread soon (tonight or tomorrow)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Little on October 28, 2007, 03:53:15 pm
G-4, bottom left please.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on October 28, 2007, 04:26:36 pm
Caeluminica F4 please.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on October 29, 2007, 03:30:24 pm
The Mallen star should actually be as close as you can possible make it the Oifan-Umtag star, since they only about five lightyears away from each other.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yannick on October 29, 2007, 04:25:04 pm
Your aggresive Epoc are scarily close to my Eyecons :-o
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 29, 2007, 05:16:12 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate4.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate4.png)

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Updated with some improvements, and yes yannick, be cautious.

The blue dots are prospective wormholes, they can easily be taken out, no problem.. i just want some feedback
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Post by: tomasgaquino on October 29, 2007, 05:20:00 pm
It's tricky to see them with the peripheral vision. Argh! I see some black dots inside the blue ones.  :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on October 29, 2007, 05:29:23 pm
Thanks a lot Infernal, you've gone and made an optical illusion.  :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Little on October 29, 2007, 06:00:00 pm
Great job.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 29, 2007, 06:03:41 pm
Thanks a lot Infernal, you've gone and made an optical illusion.  :P

Good, you arent technically supposed to see wormholes anyways.. Adds to the coolness factor
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on October 29, 2007, 06:09:26 pm
Could you move Luminicants to a place away from the wormhole please?  Or move the wormhole.


I want them to be in a place away from everyone, yet close to where the core would be.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Little on October 29, 2007, 06:17:21 pm
Good point. Since my race is supposed to be FAR away. Move em far.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 29, 2007, 07:29:56 pm
Hmm, I can offer a few options.. rather than moving the wormholes

1.  We can move the Luminicans closer, into the inner ring, and closer to the core.  That should put a great deal more space between you and a wormhole

2.  We can move your race closer to the core, or out in the middle of the outter ring (which i dont see why people dont like).

Either way, the wormholes are still up to judgement.. but I assume we need them for some quick travel.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Little on October 29, 2007, 09:33:25 pm
I'll just stay put.  ;D
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Post by: Crazen on October 29, 2007, 10:26:30 pm
graid would go in the upper right corner of  D3, if you would be so kind

 thulithotle would live on the far edges of the galaxy, lower left corner, with a very, dim star.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 30, 2007, 03:25:27 am
I'll just stay put.  ;D

Hehe, ok then.  Technically, you are still really far away from everyone, especially if no body builds around you

As for the middle of the galaxy thing, im pondering.  LIke i said with the TI, I could put you extremelly close, but you seem to have some RP deal going on.  We shall see :)
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Post by: Yannick on October 30, 2007, 05:31:12 am
(An eyecon talking((Pff, you need pre-made wormholes to transport? Pathetic!)))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on October 30, 2007, 06:35:02 am
(An eyecon talking((Pff, you need pre-made wormholes to transport? Pathetic!)))
(A Terran-Ixian talking((You still need wormholes to transport?)))
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Post by: Yannick on October 30, 2007, 06:48:29 am
((Damn, we got outclassed))


((Quick, to the lab!))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Crazen on October 30, 2007, 07:07:11 am
(An eyecon talking((Pff, you need pre-made wormholes to transport? Pathetic!)))
(A Terran-Ixian talking((You still need wormholes to transport?)))


a (jagged)graid talking: ~"you iconvinence yourself to construct extroverted processes of transportation?"
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Post by: Yuu on October 30, 2007, 07:40:06 am
(An eyecon talking((Pff, you need pre-made wormholes to transport? Pathetic!)))
(A Terran-Ixian talking((You still need wormholes to transport?)))


a (jagged)graid talking: ~"you iconvinence yourself to construct extroverted processes of transportation?"
(A Terran-Ixian talking((They've got a point. Why construct extroverted processes of transportation when you could go anywhere without any effort at all? But, that's another story. So let's just stick to this one before we get too offtopic.))) ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on October 30, 2007, 10:12:03 am
(A Kuwle talking((Wtf?)))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on October 30, 2007, 01:27:26 pm
allright allright, Ill take the wormholes out sheesh

Kuwle in 9a?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yannick on October 30, 2007, 01:31:54 pm
We were just joking around because our species don't need the wormholes for transportation. Other species probably need them though.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on October 31, 2007, 12:15:10 am
We were just joking around because our species don't need the wormholes for transportation. Other species probably need them though.
Seconded.

Sorry Infernal if it looked that way. :'(
We were just joking about how interstellar transportation could work. :)
To be honest, I kinda like the wormholes. They have great RP potential. Especially now that a war is going on. ;)

Great map by the way. :)
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Post by: Infernal on October 31, 2007, 03:59:19 am
sarcasm is so hard to express over the internet =P

dont apologize, i wasnt offended XD
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on November 01, 2007, 11:08:11 am
Nice job Infernal. Ok, so now let's put my Sombrerons at B-3.

I need everyone's opinion. Where should Beyon City go?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 01, 2007, 12:58:39 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate5.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate5.png)

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Updated with changed position of the Lumin.  and I put the Sombreron on the outter ring, that fine or you want them inside?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daan on November 01, 2007, 01:07:04 pm
The new map is too big in my opinion. Races are too far apart.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on November 01, 2007, 01:14:39 pm
The new map is too big in my opinion. Races are too far apart.
That prevents it from being crammed like the first map, be patient it will fill up.
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Post by: gec05 on November 01, 2007, 01:18:05 pm
I put the Sombreron on the outter ring, that fine or you want them inside?

That's fine where it is. ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Mr. Consideration on November 01, 2007, 01:37:23 pm
It also lacks pretty much every important race there is.
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Post by: gec05 on November 01, 2007, 01:49:01 pm
Which is why people need to come in and call their spots back.

So far, we seem to use our creature's names instead of their planet names. Let's keep it this way since it is easier to identify who lives there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Mr. Consideration on November 01, 2007, 01:57:56 pm
Well, can I have 'Auyuelcliadia' as a moderatley large area somewhere? Outer rim, bottom left. The Urshans should border me, with The Seream in-between.
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Post by: BioCat on November 01, 2007, 02:03:37 pm
Umm what was wrong with the old map? Can't you just merge both of them together? You're lacking the territories of all the old races and some critical ones that still exist.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on November 01, 2007, 02:31:54 pm
That prevents it from being crammed like the first map, be patient it will fill up.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 01, 2007, 03:05:24 pm
we arent having territories, just the names of the races and their general areas

mr. consideration, could you please be specific?  are those only your creatures?

The old map was hard to follow according to multiple people, i offered to make it slightly less complicated and less crowded
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on November 01, 2007, 03:19:19 pm
Again, no problem with that and I think it is very nice you care enough to make this project. Still the fanfic universe's former map was based on a lot of history and we can't just wipe that down. Perhaps you could take the general locations of all races in that map and copy that just less crowdedly into your map. What do you say about that?

Edit: Also another reminder. The more ancient a race is it should be more outer in the galactic rims.
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Post by: Infernal on November 01, 2007, 03:28:22 pm
which is exactly what Im hoping to do.  however, that is not possible unless you guys start reqesting spots on the map.  Im not trying to change what you guys had before, only make it a litlle simpler and a little prettier =P

The Below Rant is not directed at Biocat or anyone in particular

I will not put someone on the map unless they personally request to do so.

Why?  Because I do not want to deal with the torrent of PMs and Flaming messages with people screaming at me about how i didnt represent their race correctly, or they dont like the placement, or they want to be put somewhere else... la di da.  You want an accurate Map?  Then don't sit there and critique my map, when you yourself havent bothered to offer to do anything.  Heres a clue, I'm not going to listen to anyones opinion, unless they show me the respect and good faith to actually request to be put on the map.  Those who do so, will have a higher voice into editing the map (because Im open for it to change a lot).  However, we need to do this slowly and step by step, to alleviate my work load, and to insure everyone is happy.

You want a more populated map?  Start PMing people and telling them to join it, because I sure not going too.  Have them join, and have them tell me what they want.  I can only do so much as it is.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on November 01, 2007, 03:29:39 pm
Mon-Krai, D6 please.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on November 01, 2007, 03:42:46 pm
I have to agree with Infernal. Just be greatful he's bothered to update our map. It's not as easy to just copy/paste everything from the last map. Take it easy on him and let him work at a comfortable pace.
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Post by: BioCat on November 01, 2007, 03:43:15 pm
Ok I’ll try to make things as closely as I can to the way they were before. I’ll suggest locations for my races and a few others, feel free to correct me if you are not satisfied with your race’s location or in cases it is important to infernal just authorize my suggestion. Thank you.

It will go something like this:

Urshans rather big territory middle top B4. Right next to them on the right still rather big territory Auyulcliads border of B4 and B5. B5 next to the Auyuelcliads again large territory Yunimuis. Down under both the Auyuelcliads and Yunimuis on B4-B5 border should be the Forthi. On the right corner of B4 slightly to the left just under the Urshans should be the Thoons who were once part of the Urshan Empire. I don’t know what about the Arkibals so I’ll let the creator tell you himself but they should be rather close as well. Finally if Opera agrees I suggest he will put his Torpals rather close to this cluster concerning the former wars the races had. I wish Jack to tell you himself where the Wexxians should be but I hope they won’t be that far as well for their relations with the union go way back and it is only logical they would be rather close.

(I’ll just remind you of the problem all our races share very close borders sometimes even sharing a planet or two. I know it doesn’t make life easier but I’m afraid that’s the situation)

That’s it. This is my opinion. For the locations of the Thoons and Urshans you don’t need any authorization for they are both my races but I’d rather you would wait for the approval of all the union’s members to be sure they are pleased with this before you put any of the union races on. Thanks again for your commitment to the project. Although we have lots of opinions and things that matter to us we do appreciate your work, we really do.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on November 01, 2007, 04:08:53 pm
I still think that scattering the species over the entire galaxy is just wrong.

Thought he is putting work into this map and I can't say anything bad about that.
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Post by: Crazen on November 01, 2007, 04:16:09 pm

I will not put someone on the map unless they personally request to do so.

I personally request to do so.

graid would go around the upper right corner of  E-3, if you would be so kind.

 thulithotle would live on the far  of the galaxy, so somewere near I-3.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 01, 2007, 04:24:11 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate6.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate6.png)

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The whole cluster of stars with the urshans and such can be easily removed need be, but does that look about right?

Quote
I still think that scattering the species over the entire galaxy is just wrong.

Thought he is putting work into this map and I can't say anything bad about that.

I see your point here, however

1. Not everyone wants to be near everyone else.  Some people want space for themselves, and not thrown next to some senior race.

2. Its more realistic this way, because Sentience wouldnt just develop in one portion of the galaxy, and leave the rest non developed
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Post by: BioCat on November 01, 2007, 04:28:11 pm
Yep looks quite good. A job well done I'd say!

Edit: Also I’m not sure if you are going to make areas like nebulas and wormholes but if you plan to do so can you add just above the Urshan in the border between the rims a small area called: "Unstable wormhole activity"? Thank you.
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Post by: Infernal on November 01, 2007, 04:37:28 pm
Nah, thats too complicated, i leave that up to you guys.

However, if you guys want to make mini maps, you know, blown up versions of certain areas around your planet, with details like nebulas and such, with more specific locations of planets and such.  I will adopt them as part of this map.
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Post by: Blarg on November 01, 2007, 05:58:43 pm
Nice work.

ALso, it seems the Blargbells are kind of by themselves at the moment. Just how they like it.  :D
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Post by: gec05 on November 01, 2007, 08:30:52 pm
Nice work.

ALso, it seems the Blargbells are kind of by themselves at the moment. Just how they like it.  :D

Are you insinuating that you want someone to spoil your fun? :)

Oh, and put Beyon City at C-5 Infernal.
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Post by: LadyM on November 02, 2007, 09:15:54 am
Nice map! It's looking good.
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Post by: Haseri on November 02, 2007, 09:32:49 am
Could I have the Has'ri at the centre of G-8 please?
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Post by: emmet on November 02, 2007, 02:35:42 pm
Why is the "Thulithotle" in the outer rim amongst the older races?

Are the Omic old enough for the outer rim, I think a year and  a few months is long enough... F1 please.
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Post by: Yannick on November 03, 2007, 10:25:13 am
I think it has more to do with planet age.
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Post by: BioCat on November 03, 2007, 10:46:17 am
Well to be more specific star-age but yeah, good point. It is possible they evolved later as process on their planet took more time. Still statistically younger races should be in inner rims.
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Post by: Dr. Croccer on November 03, 2007, 10:56:23 am
Well to be more specific star-age but yeah, good point. It is possible they evolved later as process on their planet took more time. Still statistically younger races should be in inner rims.
I doubt it, since the Inner Rim is supposed to be unexplored and dangerous territory with pirates and under-developed races. The Middle is the largest and ergo most likely place for new races to start.
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Post by: Silverfish on November 03, 2007, 12:49:07 pm
Hmmm...

I think the lower right corner of D-4 would be nice for the Folicans, right near the inner rim, if you don't mind.
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Post by: Daan on November 03, 2007, 05:05:17 pm
Looking much better with the Yunimius on it ;) I'd suggest a possible legend for alliances. The Urshans, Yunimius, Forthi, Auyuelcliads and Thoons are all a part of the Enlightened Union. Simply calling it Union is best, they occasionally change their name.
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Post by: BioCat on November 03, 2007, 05:40:36 pm
Looking much better with the Yunimius on it ;) I'd suggest a possible legend for alliances. The Urshans, Yunimius, Forthi, Auyuelcliads and Thoons are all a part of the Enlightened Union. Simply calling it Union is best, they occasionally change their name.

Hehe... :)
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Post by: Infernal on November 04, 2007, 10:14:56 am
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate7.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate7.png)

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There you go.. I'm not doing alliances yet.
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Post by: Josasa on November 04, 2007, 11:22:10 am
The Union area reminds me of Europe or something similar just because of the many nations in the area.
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Post by: gec05 on November 04, 2007, 05:44:23 pm
Beyon City at C5.

Hey guys, don't you think we need to distinguish international systems like alliances and such?
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Post by: Josasa on November 04, 2007, 06:10:32 pm
Definately. Those are very important factors in the galaxy.
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Post by: Infernal on November 04, 2007, 06:22:49 pm
sorry, Beyon completely phased me for some reason.

Yes, someone get me a list, and Ill figure it out, probably by changing name colors. 
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Post by: Crazen on November 04, 2007, 06:27:08 pm
why are some stars/planets different than others?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 04, 2007, 07:15:25 pm
I dunno, it really doesnt mean much other than aesthetic value.  I just add the effect in randomly, dont really put much though into that part.
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Post by: Athalis on November 06, 2007, 11:00:10 am
Oo awesome i'm on there :D cheers mate

"Lonely alien race seeking outgoing adventurous types for out-of-this world time"

lmao
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on November 09, 2007, 12:55:52 pm
The Chion would be great at G10, near the rim...

And the Vexarions could be placed at H5 near the blue thingy...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Blarg on November 10, 2007, 01:00:18 pm
Oh, joy! I'm exceptionally close to a wormhole, it shouldn't take long for me to get places!  :D

Also, what wormhole goes with the other? DO they just 'port you to the "oppisite" wormhole, or what?  ???
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: YarYar on November 10, 2007, 01:05:46 pm
There should be a line connecting the wormholes if they don't all connect to each other.
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Post by: Yannick on November 10, 2007, 01:19:07 pm
Yeah. I'm guessing that the wormhole goes to the wormhole closest away, considering the theory states it's a non-split tube.
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Post by: YarYar on November 10, 2007, 01:39:53 pm
But they're all equally spaced.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 10, 2007, 01:42:39 pm
But they're all equally spaced.

Doesnt matter, random assortment of wormholes looks like crap.  And theoretically, they all connect to each other
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yannick on November 10, 2007, 02:33:58 pm
Actually, the wormholes are not equally spaced. The "diagonal" is longer then the side if you were to make it a figure.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on November 10, 2007, 09:28:47 pm
though i still like the other thing better, for now, ill give this one a try. Im going to keep it as close as i can to the original. Can you place the Peskitoriantais at C.5 and 4.5. Thanks :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Xenomorph on November 11, 2007, 07:52:56 am
whow, that looks great! can you please add snout to J6 please!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 12, 2007, 03:20:01 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate8.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate8.png)

Click for bigger image

Alrighty, think I got everyone.  Keep em coming.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on November 12, 2007, 03:48:15 pm
[grudgingly]Maybe you could  put the Tal'po in D8 near the wormhole...[/grudgingly]
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 12, 2007, 03:51:50 pm
haha, thats funny

ya ill add them next update =P  welcome aboard lad
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on November 12, 2007, 03:53:54 pm
Bah, none of this lad stuff. I'm 6 months your forum superior!  :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 12, 2007, 05:03:05 pm
aye, but you have joined the boat yarhar
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: The Time Traveller on November 12, 2007, 05:41:04 pm
I personally request Jwalania and Flatulen.

Also, I can't zoom in enough to read anything.

Edit:I'd like it in the Middle Rim near the Mon-Krai.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Blarg on November 12, 2007, 06:36:04 pm
You haver to say WHERE you want them, HW.

Also, I can't zoom in enough to read anything.

Try that little button that pops up in the bottom right corner.  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Arachoid on November 12, 2007, 06:44:25 pm
I'm happy! Nice job, Infernal!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on November 12, 2007, 07:10:12 pm
Haha, good job, except that you forgot the TAIS at the end of the Peskitorian  ::) :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on November 12, 2007, 07:24:19 pm
It's your fault for naming them so strangely.  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 12, 2007, 07:34:53 pm
ah crap ill get it later
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on November 13, 2007, 06:53:00 am
What the hell, if the map is filling up so fast I see no reason why not to add my Regs as well. They have some galactic influence as well so they deserve a location… Just above the middle of C4 on a rather small area.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on November 13, 2007, 04:01:02 pm
Wait, why are those wormholes even there?
The only ones that should be on the map are the ones created by races, namely the ones in the Union, the one that brought the Tal'po (i think it was them) to our area of the galaxy and the other holes between the AoH members.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on November 13, 2007, 04:42:58 pm
Yeah, it was the Tal'po.

Placement on this map for items is also more arbitrary, so it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oshaberi on November 23, 2007, 06:20:00 am
The map looks great! It's really organized. When you have the time, Infernal, could you put the Tecacians in the lower righthand corner of F8?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: emmet on November 23, 2007, 11:01:04 am
Omic at F1, please, this is the second time I said so...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on November 24, 2007, 06:40:28 pm
Hey, I promise im not avoiding this.  Ive been dealing with family and the like for Thanksgiving, so I should be back to normal sometime this week.  Thanks for your patience ^.^
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Darth Grievi on November 27, 2007, 04:19:40 pm
Shentra @ G2, upper left hand corner.
and
Thean Sanction @ I9, somewhere near the center

Please :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on November 27, 2007, 06:28:03 pm
Interesting, this seems to have been improved.

The Icthians (were they still alive) would be in the upper right hand corner of B4. Alimar itself is still there, but the empire disappeared long ago.

Are we only labelling current species? Because it would be interesting to see where all the homeworlds of the ancient races were (mostly clustered together, I would assume).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on November 27, 2007, 09:49:42 pm
THe ancient races haven't asked to be put on the map, so they aren't there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on November 28, 2007, 02:50:03 am
Might be a good idea to put them in greyed out or something, so it doesn't get confusing.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on December 01, 2007, 02:22:25 pm
I was just thinking, and i know its easier said then done, but what if someone could split the galaxy into four different quadrants (Northwest, Northeast, Southwest, and Southeast) and have a zoomed in area displaying territory length, race-created wormholes, and other things like that. Just thought i'd put that out there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: darkov on December 06, 2007, 01:52:48 pm
"Klath" @ 9B under the Outer Rim ring.

And "Eskunen III" at the top right of 8B if that's okay.


Cheers  ;D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on December 09, 2007, 03:07:21 am
The Arkibals need a placement under the rest of the union races.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 09, 2007, 05:39:24 am
How about B4 in middle bottom?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Jack Zetter on December 09, 2007, 02:39:13 pm
A3 (Lower Right): Planet Azuron (Thishen System; Wexxian point of origin, but no longer under Wexxian control, now Independent Multinational like Beyond)

C4 (Anywhere): Hatia City (Planet Hatia; The Hatia System; Wexxian Capital and only planet based colony of the Robotic Wexxians. If the name Hatia is confusing for some then just write "Wexxian")

Even though the Wexxians are leaving, the Hatia-Wexxians are staying to keep an eye on things while the rest are away!  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: munchkin5 on December 10, 2007, 08:49:20 am
How about B4 in middle bottom?
If that was refering to me, yes
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 10, 2007, 08:51:48 am
How about B4 in middle bottom?
If that was refering to me, yes
Yep, and ok sounds good.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on December 10, 2007, 11:51:39 am
He needs to update this soon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 10, 2007, 10:19:33 pm
A3 (Lower Right): Thishen System; Wexxian point of origin, but no longer under Wexxian control, now Independent Multinational like Beyon

I'd be tempted to put Thishen on, but greyed out (if we're doing that).

Ooh, we should also probably put Arcadia on this thing.

Bottom right of A6, I'd imagine (this was back when hyperdrive sucked).
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 11, 2007, 09:02:36 am
Sorry for nit-picking, but Auyuelcliadia should be towards the outer rim and should border the Urshans only, and beyond the Urshans border other Union races. Hence the Auyuelcliads discovering the Urshans first of all races.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 11, 2007, 10:40:58 am
I'm guessing Infernal has been busy with classes.  Either that, or he dissapeared to the same place as Taven.  Hopefully both will show up again soon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on December 13, 2007, 04:04:44 am
Yes, I am not dead, but I am extremelly busy with classes and now court cases, and I am not able to stay on the forums for long.  Can't really explain why at this point, but I'm going to update this again.  You can add the dead races and Ill use grey text like thing for them.  Just tell me what you want thrown on, and ill do it

Would someone mind making a quick list of what I need to add and change since last update if thats not a problem?  I just wanna glance over one thing and update real quick.  Thanks
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 13, 2007, 04:18:34 am
Sure:

Tal'po in D8 near the wormhole...

Regs Just above the middle of C4.

Tecacians in the lower righthand corner of F8.

Omic at F1

Shentra @ G2, upper left hand corner.
and
Thean Sanction @ I9, somewhere near the center

The Icthians (were they still alive) would be in the upper right hand corner of B4. Alimar itself is still there, but the empire disappeared long ago.

Klath" @ 9B under the Outer Rim ring.

And "Eskunen III" at the top right of 8B if that's okay.

Arkibals B4 middle bottom

A3 (Lower Right): Planet Azuron (Thishen System; Wexxian point of origin, but no longer under Wexxian control, now Independent Multinational like Beyond)

C4 (Anywhere): Hatia City (Planet Hatia; The Hatia System; Wexxian Capital and only planet based colony of the Robotic Wexxians. If the name Hatia is confusing for some then just write "Wexxian")

Sorry for nit-picking, but Auyuelcliadia should be towards the outer rim and should border the Urshans only, and beyond the Urshans border other Union races. Hence the Auyuelcliads discovering the Urshans first of all races.

I personally request Jwalania and Flatulen.
Also, I can't zoom in enough to read anything.
Edit:I'd like it in the Middle Rim near the Mon-Krai.

Tell me if I missed anything.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 13, 2007, 06:55:01 am
I'd be tempted to put Thishen on, but greyed out (if we're doing that).

Ooh, we should also probably put Arcadia on this thing, [also greyed out].

Bottom right of A6, I'd imagine (this was back when hyperdrive sucked).

Don't forget Arcadia.

Also, which of those are greyed out and which aren't?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 13, 2007, 05:13:14 pm
I think none correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 13, 2007, 08:10:14 pm
Well, I know Alimar should be.

We should also get Hydro, Sam and Opera in this thread, I think.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on December 13, 2007, 11:04:34 pm
alright, alright, I'm here (although I have no idea how, as I apparently clicked on pm's by accident and saw that I actually had a new one)  :D

anyway...I'd say A6, top-left corner, for the torpalian homeworld, Tjorn...and A5, slightly lower middle, for Cardotyrannus IV, their adopted capitol...sound good?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 13, 2007, 11:43:41 pm
The Nauceans were already on the Planet Spore forum map for years now. I guess the Nauceans are just in another galaxy or something.

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/ps_galaxy.jpg)

Unless you want to combine this map with yours. Note that there are other races from Planet Spore on here besides the Nauceans. Nauceans location was -13, -13 in the Delta quadrant.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 14, 2007, 07:20:57 am
Unless those other races are or were active here, I wouldn't include them.  This is a map of the GamingSteve CC galaxy, isn't it?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on December 14, 2007, 12:51:52 pm
Yeah, that map is of a different galaxy. The Nauceans are on there because if they had the knowledge to ascend, they can very well travel to other parts of the universe.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 03:31:56 am
so it cannot be combined? I am pretty sure that this map was retired awhile back but that doesn't mean the Nauceans still no not live in that region.

PS Map (24x24)
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/ps_galaxy.jpg

GS Map (10x10)
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate8.png

We could always convert the 24x24 PS map by 2.4 for the 10x10 Map.

In fact if you look the PS map even had Earth on there in the upper left corner.

So using Ovi's map as a guide ...

Ovi Map
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l27/Oviraptor85/Other/Galaxy1.jpg

We overlap ovi's map with the GS map and line up the known region such as CAB, etc.

Then overlap Ovi's map with the PS map and line up Earth.

And poof a combo map!

Combo Map
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/combo_galayx.jpg

From this map now i can translate locations from PS to GS.

So the Nauceans would be at the upper right corner (on the line of C to D) of sector D6. Thier system is called the Nautiloid System.

As for the rest ...

Ravens (http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Raven_%28Concept%29) = Arkab System = B7 (in the outer rim section)

I posted about this in the PS forum so hopfully they can shed some light on the unidentified systems.

PS Map of the Galaxy Thread
http://planetspore.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1759&start
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 04:19:13 am
Does that mean that the GS galaxy is the Milky Way? ???

Has there been an agreement of where the humans should be in the Spore continuum? If so, please tell me. :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 04:21:12 am
Well I know that both the Nauceans and Torpals have visited Earth so I would say yes.

And they would be in I4 according the Ovi's map.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 04:26:45 am
Were they the same humans as us, or were they fanfic versions? Is there a thread where the humans were encountered, or are they mentioned in the creature corner?

Much Thanks, Hydro! :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 04:30:08 am
Were they the same humans as us, or were they fanfic versions? Is there a thread where the humans were encountered, or are they mentioned in the creature corner?

Much Thanks, Hydro! :)

As far as I know they were the same as us with the same history. However i think each encounter was kept hidden from the general public or lost into Earth mythology. I think the Torpals were at Roswell and the Nauceans encountered ancient Hawaiians and added to their lore.

Naucean Earth Encounter
http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=1621.msg103071#msg103071

Torpal Earth Encounter (Picture is missing)
http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=2215.msg186755#msg186755
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 04:40:12 am
Umm... Can I still make my Mythology about "The Will"?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 04:42:37 am
Umm... Can I still make my Mythology about "The Will"?

Well if this is in the setting that its all a video game then I guess sure. But i thought this was suppose to be "real" and not in a video game.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 04:48:25 am
He's more of like a person who builds Sims and then entrusts it to admins. Kinda like Steve.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 05:00:00 am
He's more of like a person who builds Sims and then entrusts it to admins. Kinda like Steve.

I don't understand. Is this the same Will from Willism?

Willism Cult
http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Willism
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 15, 2007, 05:10:26 am
Nice work with the overlapping Hydro. And I think its cool we are combining races from PS as I used to post there back in the days and a more varied filled galaxy is better.

And I think the presence of Earth is more symbolic as the Humans surely don’t play any part in our Fan-Fic universe. But I remember both Torpal and Naucean stories of meeting Humans and they were both very cool, but looked more like “Easter eggs” or alternate universes to me.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 05:19:45 am
He's more of like a person who builds Sims and then entrusts it to admins. Kinda like Steve.

I don't understand. Is this the same Will from Willism?

Willism Cult
http://spore.wikia.com/index.php?title=Willism
Somewhat close to that, though he isn't all powerful and that the admins look strange in a way that they don't look like creatures, save for two of them. The closest an admin can get in appearance is the PCE's.

Nice work with the overlapping Hydro. And I think its cool we are combining races from PS as I used to post there back in the days and a more varied filled galaxy is better.

And I think the presence of Earth is more symbolic as the Humans surely don’t play any part in our Fan-Fic universe. But I remember both Torpal and Naucean stories of meeting Humans and they were both very cool, but looked more like “Easter eggs” or alternate universes to me.
There are actually two ways that I am trying to pick on how they'll be represented. First, factual. Second, mythical.

(( Sorry guys, it's already deep in the night here and I have to go somewhere extremely important tomorrow morning. Many thanks for the info Hydro, BioCat. :) This is the last post for tonight I guess. :) Happy Holidays! :) ))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on December 15, 2007, 06:51:02 am
Well, Ill have the update finished (already half done) today and will post it with everything BioCat posted and the Torpals and a few other edits.  Afterwards, you guys figure out how you, or if you want to combine the maps.  I'm nto gonna worry about it XD
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: BioCat on December 15, 2007, 07:41:11 am
There is no need to combine the maps. As Hydro showed we simply overlapped them in order to get the coordinates of all races set according to the old map, that’s all.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on December 15, 2007, 09:34:39 am
as far as the human issue...the torpal post hydro linked too was just a joke/'easter egg', as biocat said...BUT, i drew a picture much earlier of torpals attacking some human colony...and the vis were the ones that visited roswell...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 15, 2007, 09:44:07 am
In fact if you look the PS map even had Earth on there in the upper left corner.

No! No Earth! Bad Hydro.

The meeting the humans stuff was only meant to be a private joke. We're not actually in the Milky Way galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yokto on December 15, 2007, 12:30:18 pm
Soooo.... Maybe i should just do a reboot universe (that no one will join in on like OMYL)

Oh well.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on December 15, 2007, 03:18:30 pm
I say just leave the solar system out of it. Any human contact we made was just for fun.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on December 15, 2007, 03:27:44 pm
Let me do this first.

In a time before us, there was a race of amazing intel. They new everything. Even how to blow up planets. Once, their wars got so great, their planet was obliterated. the peices had DNA that flew to many planets. one made it to earth, far, fart away. this killed all the dinosaurs and made the humans. others moved to diffurent planets.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 15, 2007, 05:06:21 pm
We could also say:

In a time before us, there was a race of amazing knowledge. They even knew how create their own worlds.

Once, their power got so great, a circle of extremely wise beings divided the power and sealed it off from the rest of the universe. The pieces each had the power to create an infinite amount of worlds from the vast knowledge it had gathered throughout millennia.

One such piece was in the possession of an extremely wise sage of almost limitless knowledge. Not a single being knows his true name. The closest a being has achieved in discovering his name was, "The Will". "The Will" fashioned the universe to his own liking. The laws were all in accordance with his will, his power influenced all. No act escapes "The Will's" eyes, he knew all about the world he has created.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 15, 2007, 10:56:12 pm
as far as the human issue...the torpal post hydro linked too was just a joke/'easter egg', as biocat said...BUT, i drew a picture much earlier of torpals attacking some human colony...and the vis were the ones that visited roswell...

Oops sorry It was one of those 2 that visited Roswell.

In fact if you look the PS map even had Earth on there in the upper left corner.

No! No Earth! Bad Hydro.

The meeting the humans stuff was only meant to be a private joke. We're not actually in the Milky Way galaxy.

Whats wrong with having the Earth there anywho? The galaxy is huge. Plus Earth is boring planet of bipedal apes. Why would anyone want to go there :p

Well, Ill have the update finished (already half done) today and will post it with everything BioCat posted and the Torpals and a few other edits.  Afterwards, you guys figure out how you, or if you want to combine the maps.  I'm nto gonna worry about it XD

Please add the coordinates i listed before.

Nauceans = the upper right corner (on the line of C to D) of sector D6.

Ravens = B7 (in the outer rim section)

Humans = I4 (If you want to add them)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on December 16, 2007, 06:40:14 am
Yuu: Not what I was trying to do. Fail.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on December 16, 2007, 11:47:18 am
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate9.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate9.png)

Click for bigger image

Updated whatever I could.  Didnt put in Humans or Ravens (There is no P7 Hydro ;))
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 16, 2007, 12:53:15 pm
I say we leave out earth and any non-GS creatures.  If some of you insist on having Earth in our galaxy, we can just say that the location of our solar system is unknown to most of the galactic community and therefore isn't on the map.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 16, 2007, 03:49:25 pm

Didnt put in Humans or Ravens (There is no P7 Hydro ;))

Oops i ment B7

Also why are some white and some red?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 16, 2007, 04:16:16 pm
Because he said so, I think.  Artistic license.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on December 16, 2007, 04:21:35 pm
No particular reason really.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on December 16, 2007, 05:50:20 pm
You forgot the Tal'po.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on December 16, 2007, 06:06:48 pm
and the torpals  :-\

I'd say A6, top-left corner, for the torpalian homeworld, Tjorn...and A5, slightly lower middle, for Cardotyrannus IV, their adopted capitol...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on December 16, 2007, 07:54:03 pm
You know, using the Combo map as a guide, you could record the location where the Kratair's homeworld once was.  It's the Kratota system on the PS map.  It's fairly old and from back before I changed the name of their system to Harkren.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 16, 2007, 11:20:58 pm
You know, using the Combo map as a guide, you could record the location where the Kratair's homeworld once was.  It's the Kratota system on the PS map.  It's fairly old and from back before I changed the name of their system to Harkren.

What location were they on the PS map? I did not see them on my map.

PS Map
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/ps_galaxy.jpg
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Huckbuck on December 17, 2007, 08:05:58 am
You can add the Huckbuck star, I dont know where, but anywhere close to the Blargbells will do. :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Infernal on December 17, 2007, 02:22:15 pm
(http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate10.png) (http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z56/InfernalFTW/Galaxy/SporeGalaxyUpdate10.png)

Click for bigger image

Alright, put in what I forgot, and Added a few other things.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 17, 2007, 03:31:08 pm
I like how we seem to have a highly populated region forming from A3 to D6.  It would be cool if we could extend the belt across the galaxy.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 17, 2007, 03:53:53 pm
You should check the names, I think some of them need to be greyed out.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on December 17, 2007, 04:16:06 pm
You know, using the Combo map as a guide, you could record the location where the Kratair's homeworld once was.  It's the Kratota system on the PS map.  It's fairly old and from back before I changed the name of their system to Harkren.

What location were they on the PS map? I did not see them on my map.

PS Map
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/ps_galaxy.jpg

T'would seem I labled it there as the Kratos system.  It's the one next to the star cluster.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 17, 2007, 06:54:25 pm
You know, using the Combo map as a guide, you could record the location where the Kratair's homeworld once was.  It's the Kratota system on the PS map.  It's fairly old and from back before I changed the name of their system to Harkren.

What location were they on the PS map? I did not see them on my map.

PS Map
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h202/Hydromancerx/Naucean/ps_galaxy.jpg

T'would seem I labled it there as the Kratos system.  It's the one next to the star cluster.

Ok then according to the combo map they would be ...

Kratairs = F4 (right middle)

Also I would like to add my other lesser races. They will be near the Nauceans since they spawned them.

Wutan = C7 (middle center)

Osoris = C7 (upper left)

Anomatilus = C7 (upper right)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Oviraptor on December 17, 2007, 07:02:24 pm
In that case, might as well put the Stomiodon system there, too. 4A right on the border of 3, and outside, the galactic circle.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Areku on December 17, 2007, 07:12:29 pm
Ok well I guess I'll partake...

Quillaran in the I5 section in the lower left corner
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on December 17, 2007, 07:17:47 pm

Ok then according to the combo map they would be ...

Kratairs = F4 (right middle)


Makes sence, after all, according to the cannonical storyline of the GS forum, the Kratairian fleet arrived from somewhere outside of where everyone else is, at least that's how I alwasy pictured it.  It certainly explained their sudden appearence and involvement in galactic politics.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 17, 2007, 07:18:46 pm
Well I know that both the Nauceans and Torpals have visited Earth so I would say yes.

And they would be in I4 according the Ovi's map.

I still think we should still mark I4 as "Sol" or something so no one puts their creature there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Blarg on December 17, 2007, 07:26:28 pm
Ok well I guess I'll partake...

Quillaran in the I5 section in the lower left corner

Whoah, it's Areku! You don't know me, but your creatue was a big inspiration to me when I first started Lurking. Nice to see you haven't left!  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 17, 2007, 08:17:21 pm
Well I know that both the Nauceans and Torpals have visited Earth so I would say yes.

And they would be in I4 according the Ovi's map.

I still think we should still mark I4 as "Sol" or something so no one puts their creature there.

No, no Sol. No Earth, no Humans. They're not GS canon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on December 17, 2007, 10:12:27 pm
Seconded.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 18, 2007, 12:40:31 am
Well I know that both the Nauceans and Torpals have visited Earth so I would say yes.

And they would be in I4 according the Ovi's map.

I still think we should still mark I4 as "Sol" or something so no one puts their creature there.

No, no Sol. No Earth, no Humans. They're not GS canon.

What do you mean? The Nauceans, ViS, Torpals and I think even some other races have visited earth on the forums. Do you forget who started all this on the Gaming Steve forum? It was 1st me with th Nauceans and then 1st Spore RPs with the Prison Escape RP. Just because I do not RP now doesn't mean earth should not be on the map. As i recall it was an unofficial rule that you could have earth and visit it but you could not change earth's history. I think humans were even listed here. (http://spore.wikia.com/wiki/Content:Human)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 18, 2007, 01:40:06 am
Just because you do something without asking anyone else doesn't mean it's necessarily the right thing to do. *cough*time travel*cough*

I'm fairly certain it's been established since you guys did that stuff that it was just an alternate reality, easter egg thing. That's the overwhelming consensus I remember.

No-one's trying to limit your creativity, but it's just not healthy to have that sort of thing be part of canon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 18, 2007, 01:49:27 am
Just because you do something without asking anyone else doesn't mean it's necessarily the right thing to do. *cough*time travel*cough*

I'm fairly certain it's been established since you guys did that stuff that it was just an alternate reality, easter egg thing. That's the overwhelming consensus I remember.

No-one's trying to limit your creativity, but it's just not healthy to have that sort of thing be part of canon.

If you remember we went in later and outlawed time travel in the rules. Earth has not been. However we could if you want to. But it still happened int the current reality.

Sure it was an easter egg but that did not mean it happened in the timeline.

I am not asking people to have their creatures visit earth or anything i just want it on the darn map. Heck call it "The Forbidden Zone" or something i don't care as long as no one plops their species on top of where Earth has been established in the galaxy since early 2006.

PS stop saying "canon", makes it sound like this is a religion something.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 18, 2007, 02:11:18 am
Canon is the term for established events in fiction. This conversation is about establishing a consistent fiction. I don't know what else you want me to say. ???

Earth was never established as being part of this galaxy. In fact, significant noises were made IIRC that we specifically didn't want this to be the Milky Way galaxy. The only reason it's "on the map" is because you've retconned it in there after the fact to match your own private timeline.

Perhaps if someone else could weigh in on this, I just feel like I'm getting nowhere trying to explain.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 18, 2007, 05:14:52 am

Earth was never established as being part of this galaxy. In fact, significant noises were made IIRC that we specifically didn't want this to be the Milky Way galaxy. The only reason it's "on the map" is because you've retconned it in there after the fact to match your own private timeline.


When there were not so many people we were able to keep everyones time line accurate to each other. Eventually it got much more complex which is why I had the Nauceans leave the RP so it would not get messed up. Also I was rather tired of them all. Anywho the past is still the spore RP past and should not be changed with all the new peoples stuff. Earth was one of those early established things.

Seems funny to me that so many want bipedal-human-like creatures but somehow real humans are a no no.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 18, 2007, 05:17:39 am
Shouldn't we just mark it as a Wormhole-heavy/blackhole-heavy area? No one's gonna think of going there unless they have the tech to surpass it, but still, who'd even try to go to such a dangerous zone. ???

Why don't we just treat it like a red-zone in C&C? :) Nobody wants to go to a red-zone unless it's very crucial.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 18, 2007, 11:29:55 am
I don't have the same authority as Hydro or Daxx on this, but I'm with Daxx in leaving Earth off the map.  I prefer the idea of this being a separate galaxy from the Milky Way.  If some people want to visit Earth with their own creatures, fine.  Do it as an easter egg, an alternate reality, whatever.  If memory serves, by the end the Nauceans would have had ample technology to travel to another galaxy for that encounter, or whatever.

And if you still insist on the Earth being in this galaxy, it doesn't have to be on the map.  This map is far from complete, so not having a planet or system listed that no one actually RP's doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.  And even if someone puts a planet on the spot you have in mind for Earth, it isn't a big deal.  Remember that this is only a 2D map, and a galaxy would be several light years thick, if I remember correctly.  It seems entirely possible to me that two habitable planets could be in the same space on this map, especially given the scale we are working with.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on December 18, 2007, 11:34:22 am
I agree with Daxx. Either that, or this is the Milky Way but Earth doesn't exist in this timeline.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 18, 2007, 11:36:54 am
Or we blew it up!

>:D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Blarg on December 18, 2007, 12:21:03 pm
No Earth is my vote.  :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 18, 2007, 12:28:24 pm
No Earth. Only in not-actually-canonic-what-if-situations should Earth arise.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Neoskel on December 18, 2007, 12:30:09 pm

Earth was never established as being part of this galaxy. In fact, significant noises were made IIRC that we specifically didn't want this to be the Milky Way galaxy. The only reason it's "on the map" is because you've retconned it in there after the fact to match your own private timeline.


When there were not so many people we were able to keep everyones time line accurate to each other. Eventually it got much more complex which is why I had the Nauceans leave the RP so it would not get messed up. Also I was rather tired of them all. Anywho the past is still the spore RP past and should not be changed with all the new peoples stuff. Earth was one of those early established things.

Seems funny to me that so many want bipedal-human-like creatures but somehow real humans are a no no.

Well, we can always retcon that stuff.  ;)

Oh, and hi all.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: operaghost21 on December 18, 2007, 12:37:23 pm
don't worry hydro, we can still keep earth all to ourselves  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 18, 2007, 04:38:25 pm
Or we blew it up!

>:D

I like this idea. We can say it existed there but is now blown up :D
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 19, 2007, 12:12:21 am
We could just say that
I prefer the idea of this being a separate galaxy from the Milky Way.
This way, everyone can go to earth but it won't affect the timeline. :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2007, 12:13:26 am
Or we blew it up!

>:D

I like this idea. We can say it existed there but is now blown up :D

Hydro has spoken.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 19, 2007, 12:49:30 am
Or we blew it up!

>:D

I like this idea. We can say it existed there but is now blown up :D

Hydro has spoken.

I think it should be blown up by Necros. No one liked them, so it makes perfect sense :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2007, 01:39:17 am
Or the Torpals ate them.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Dr. Croccer on December 19, 2007, 06:25:45 am
>_> I kinda made a few references to Earth in my Barroc thread as a hidden planet filled with pathetic and aggressive creatures that the Barroc sometimes abduct and study but lost track of Earth a hundred years back.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 19, 2007, 11:53:20 pm
Why don't we just say that it's convergent evolution, in a massive scale.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 20, 2007, 06:48:22 am
Why don't we just say that it's convergent evolution, in a massive scale.

Because that's pretty much impossible ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 20, 2007, 11:20:03 am
I was going to say earlier that if we make an "official" reference to Earth, people are going to argue over who blew it up, who has made contact, etc.  I think it's better to keep such things non-canon.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 20, 2007, 11:46:05 am
I was going to say earlier that if we make an "official" reference to Earth, people are going to argue over who blew it up, who has made contact, etc.  I think it's better to keep such things non-canon.

Lets have a big space cannon plow it up!  ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 20, 2007, 12:01:04 pm
Where's Patman when you need him?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Kcronos on December 20, 2007, 07:21:32 pm
How about go about it the HHGTTG way.  We know of Earth, but its such a backwater and uninteresting place that no one bothers to go there.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 21, 2007, 09:05:36 am
That got demolished to make way for a Intergalactic Bypass.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Daxx on December 23, 2007, 09:38:44 am
See, the amount of disagreement about how to treat the absence of Earth proves that it's simpler (to quote the Guide) to just take the thing away and have done with it.

This is a different galaxy. Earth doesn't exist in this one. Therefore, Earth isn't on the map, we don't interact with Earth (aside from non-canon stuff made possible by intergalactic travel or whatever) and there are no problems and no narrative mess to clean up.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yokto on December 24, 2007, 03:38:06 am
Yeah who needs earth. I do not expect the find that crappy planet inhabited by homicidal apes in my spore galaxy. :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: The Time Traveller on December 24, 2007, 03:08:52 pm
I reference Earth in my RPs, but not as a visitable planet, but as the godly place where everything is created.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 24, 2007, 06:43:23 pm
I reference Earth in my RPs, but not as a visitable planet, but as the godly place where everything is created.
Same as mine. Earth is an "outside" realm detached from everything, the abode of "The Will" and "The Users."
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Hydromancerx on December 26, 2007, 03:33:01 pm
See, the amount of disagreement about how to treat the absence of Earth proves that it's simpler (to quote the Guide) to just take the thing away and have done with it.

This is a different galaxy. Earth doesn't exist in this one. Therefore, Earth isn't on the map, we don't interact with Earth (aside from non-canon stuff made possible by intergalactic travel or whatever) and there are no problems and no narrative mess to clean up.

I disagree :P See why having everyone on one big map was a bad idea :P
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Inkling on December 26, 2007, 08:35:51 pm
But we can deal with that problem by not having Earth on the big map.  And you don't have to participate if you don't want to.

But I get the feeling we're going in circles on this.  In the end, whoever is willing to make the map gets to have the last say, it seems.  Where is Infernal, anyways?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on December 26, 2007, 08:46:48 pm
That would be best, IMO.

Infernal? He might be busy preparing for New Year's Festival, I guess. ???
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on January 02, 2008, 09:52:24 am
they are biped like aliens on a planet called Earthern. It's called Earth for short and the real sapient creatures are whale like things that live under water.

Done.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 02, 2008, 09:54:11 am
OK, but our Earth will be the place described in my and Darth's RPs.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on January 02, 2008, 10:04:35 am
You mean Earthern, Don't you. ;)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: The Time Traveller on January 02, 2008, 10:05:37 am
No, Earthern is a fiction, a joke made by the humans of Earth in their RPs.  Earth is a higher plane, a place above the RP world.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on January 02, 2008, 10:29:34 am
No, Earthern is a fiction, a joke made by the humans of Earth in their RPs.
I got a new sig.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on January 02, 2008, 05:39:44 pm
OK, but our Earth will be the place described in my, Darth's and Yuu's RPs.
Fix-ed. :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Netherflare on March 26, 2008, 04:48:33 am
So any new updates on the map as of now? Or is it complete?
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on March 26, 2008, 04:55:57 am
I dunno, Infernal hasn't logged-in since January. :-\
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on April 26, 2008, 08:11:11 am
Everyone seems to have their attention on the NG galaxy. I don't think anyone cares much about what happens to the old one which is kinda sad.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: blitzonator on April 26, 2008, 08:13:42 am
Aww. I liked OG. :'(

I hope they remember the good times...
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 26, 2008, 08:26:14 am
Not like it was bursting with activity the last three months.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on April 26, 2008, 09:46:05 pm
So, NG map? :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on April 26, 2008, 09:48:47 pm
I was thinking we might, because it would be easier to do at the beginning.

What I'm more sure of is that we should create some semblance of a timeline.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on April 26, 2008, 11:59:56 pm
And the first event in the timeline, save for the galaxy's formation, etc., would be the Genesis RP?

Sounds great. That way, everything will be in chronological order.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Doctor Z on April 27, 2008, 05:53:09 am
Actually, if my race is going forward, the first event would be the Formation of The Sons Of The New Age, AKA Space EMPIRE!!! Small one... but STILL!!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Brandonazz on April 27, 2008, 07:28:37 am
I assume Genesis and The Maker's Will occur at the same time in different locations.

And like DoctorZ said, species specific events can be before that, like formations and such.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Josasa on April 27, 2008, 09:26:18 pm
I assume Genesis and The Maker's Will occur at the same time in different locations.

And like DoctorZ said, species specific events can be before that, like formations and such.

I don't think Flisch's dictatorship will allow that. He controls everything [NG]!
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: SporeBuck on November 08, 2008, 09:50:24 am
Necrobumb, I know but I think I have a good reason for it. You see with the advent of the Bronze Age /Reborn Galaxy I believe we should restart this thread, and maybe we could even get our more computer savvy members to mod the space phase of Spore to show an accurate map of Galixia ( I once read of someone calling citizens "Galixians" so I took the next logical step). If not, we could always just use paint, I truly think that before we fade away and have to wait another three year for an iron age we should grab a hold of this opportunity while we can.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: Yuu on November 08, 2008, 10:13:23 am
     Something like this? (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=12500.0) It's based on the OG's current map made by Infernal.

     I've been thinking about this too. Sadly, I don't have enough free time to make another map anymore. :( Hopefully, someone has the time to make a new one.

     We could use paint, though I'm not sure how we would avoid the eventual cluttering since Paint doesn't have layers. :-\ I suggest we try GIMP or if possible, Photoshop. :) However, PS can get pretty taxing when the locations begin piling up.

     I suggest a new thread for easy access. Or alternatively, edit the OP so there's a new link leading to the new map. Personally, I prefer option 1.

     I hope this goes well. :)
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: bad Karma on January 05, 2010, 11:54:32 am
You do know all your images are deleted right?

Just reminding you, you haven't noticed.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: gec05 on January 05, 2010, 12:07:08 pm
This thread is actually more current (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=15335.msg694112#msg694112), even though I haven't updated it in ages.
Title: Re: _.-'-._A Map of the Galaxy_.-'-._
Post by: martyk on January 05, 2010, 12:50:50 pm
You do know all your images are deleted right?

Just reminding you, you haven't noticed.

No!  Bad!  Don't necropost without good reason.