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Title: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Slartibartfast on September 25, 2006, 07:09:53 pm
Heroes (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/)

It reminds me of Rising Stars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Stars) and Aberrant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberrant).  I approve.

Hiro is the man!   His Blog  (http://blog.nbc.com/hiro_blog/)  :)  Edit: Getting better.   

Did anyone else watch it?

Edit: Time to beef up this post.

Warning: Spoilers Abound! 
Speculation to follow!


'Heroes' has the power to engage and confuse (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/reviews/2006-09-24-review-heroes_x.htm)
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You can practically hear the Heroes cult forming.
Dense, dark, a little dreary and yet oddly intriguing, Heroes seems destined to attract an audience that is more loyal than large. A distinctive, dark-knight comic book brought to life, Heroes clearly isn't for everyone, but that's all right: Every show doesn't have to be for everyone. What matters is that Heroes is likely to please viewers who like genre series, even when those series take themselves a tad too seriously.

They will, however, have to get past a pilot that is so devoted to setting a tone that it ignores the need to establish its characters or move along its story. And the pretentious twang to that tone is set by the opening credits, with their Star Wars-type graphic crawl and the promise that we are entering Chapter One, Volume One of an "epic tale." It's hard enough to get people to take high-concept shows seriously; there's no need to actually invite derisive laughter.

The concept here is that a group of people scattered around the globe have evolved to a higher genetic level and developed superpowers. They don't all understand their powers and they may not all put them to heroic purposes. Over time, however, many of them will realize that it's their destiny to save the world.

Like Six Degrees, destiny seems to be a large part of the Heroes mythology, as the characters continually cross paths — no easy task considering how spread out they are at the start.

Mohinder (Sendhil Ramamurthy) is a genetics professor in India; Peter (Milo Ventimiglia, finally playing a likable character) is a nurse in New York; Hiro (Masi Oka) is an animé fan in Tokyo; Claire (Hayden Panettiere) is a cheerleader in Texas.

All of them speak English, except for Hiro, whose dialogue requires subtitles, yet another demand from a show that makes an awful lot of them.

The show spends much of its first two episodes revealing the characters' powers, so it seems unfair to give them away here. Let's just say some are more mental — telepathy, empathy, an ability to stop time or see into the future. Some are more physical, from an ability to fly to an inability to be hurt. And some either haven't been revealed or I haven't figured them out, which may explain why some of the characters are of much greater interest than others.

And that's part of the problem with Heroes: It isn't always clear whether the show is being intentionally mysterious or is simply unintentionally confused. Heavily serialized fantasies like Heroes are particularly hard to carry off, and you don't leave the first three episodes convinced that the actors and producers are up to the challenge.

Yet you don't leave bored, either, and that's no small accomplishment. If nothing else, Heroes shows an early knack for coming up with the kind of surprise, episode-ending cliffhangers that will keep some viewers coming back for more.

Make no mistake, it will attract a cult. Whether the cult will be large enough is a question only one of the Heroes could answer.


Line for the cult forms here!
1. Slartibartfast
2. Netherflare
3. BPM
4. ilikesanta
5. stuckin2004

More balanced reviews (I've found some pretty overtop ones both positive and negative) :

TV Review: Heroes (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/accent/content/accent/epaper/2006/09/25/a1e_HEROES_0925.html)
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A high school cheerleader is indestructible. A geeky Japanese office drone can bend time and teleport himself across the globe. A gifted artist paints the future. A New York City man leaps off of tall buildings in a single bound.

No, these aren't characters in, say, X-Men: The Awakening.

 
They're actually ordinary humans who suddenly learn they have superpowers in Heroes, NBC's nifty new drama.

In a TV landscape bloated with pulse-pounding thrillers about kidnapped kids, runaway families, missing wives, sinister conspiracies and one nuclear holocaust, Heroes is a welcomed treat — a popcorn TV show with a cool comic book vibe.

With the real world in such turmoil, Tim Kring, the show's creator and executive producer, believes the time is right for a save-the-universe drama like Heroes.

"In a world that seems to be out of balance.... there's a sense people (are hoping) somebody is going to rise up among us and actually do something about it," Kring says. "I was trying to tap into that."

But Kring quickly points out that the show's overnight superheroes won't immediately form a team and fight the world's evildoers. You probably won't see any capes or spandex, either.

"It's not like the Justice League," Kring says, referring to the old Saturday morning cartoon that featured the likes of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. "They'll come together in small ways and in small pockets."

Kring admits he doesn't have a comic book background. Over the years he has produced such very un-comic book-like shows as Chicago Hope, Providence and L.A. Doctors. Most recently he created Crossing Jordan, NBC's popular forensics drama.

So Kring hired writers from such fantastical dramas as Lost, Alias and Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman to help him out.

"I'm sort of surrounded by comic book geeks," says Kring, "who seem to steer me in directions when we're veering too close to things that have been done before or steering me away from things that shouldn't be done."

What Kring plans to do with Heroes is populate it with unlikely bad guys. Just because all of the characters start out on the right side of the law doesn't mean they will all end up that way.

"The truth is, the evil is sometimes within us," he says. "If you can walk through walls and you're inclined to do good, you may walk through a wall to save somebody. If you're inclined to do something evil, you may walk through a wall and rob a bank. I think we can expect that some villains will arise."

In the opening minutes of Heroes, we're told by a handsome genetics professor (Sendhil Ramamurthy) that man only uses one-tenth his brain power and we have yet to reach our "true human potential."

Like in the X-Men movies, a group of ordinary people are evolving into superhuman mutants. Claire Bennet (Remember the Titans' Hayden Panettiere), a cute high school cheerleader in Texas, can run through train wreck fires and hurl herself off the top of steel structures while walking away without a scratch. Niki Sanders (Final Destination's Ali Larter), a Las Vegas stripper struggling to raise her young son, has a sinister alter-ego with a mind of her own and Hiro Nakamura (Scrubs' Masi Oka) is overjoyed with his ability to teleport himself like the characters on Star Trek.

"Each of these characters' abilities is actually kind of an extension of who they are and what their life is about," Kring says, "like the single mother who is trying to make ends meet and who literally finds that she can be in two places at the same time."

Heroes works because it's not just a comic book show teeming with a bunch of one-dimensional superheroes who save the world and fly or run off into the night after a job well done. It's more about average people coming to grips with newfound life choices they never expected. The characters have interesting back stories that have nothing to do with their powers.

Heroes also has a strong ensemble, led by such standouts as Adrian Pasdar (Profit) as a slimy politician running for Congress, Larter as a single mom with a deadly temper and Oka as the giddy teleporter.

Kring says Oka's character was developed late in the script process.

"After giving the script to a couple of friends to read, we realized there was a tonal issue," he says. "My first impression of getting these abilities (is) we would approach it in a very realistic way. We would try and deny it or go to the doctor or go to a shrink or something to try to figure out what it is. I felt I needed one character who embraced (the powers) in a really positive way and saw it as the greatest thing in the world."

Heroes is certainly out-of-this-world and one cool TV show.


Characters, not superpowers, drive intriguing new NBC series (http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-review-heroes,0,5303872.story?coll=zap-tv-mainheadline)
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"Heroes" is not a show that's going to grab you by the throat from its opening scene and demand to be watched. Unlike, say, certain seasons of "24" or the pilot episode of "Lost," the new NBC series reveals itself a little more slowly.

Give it a little time, though, and it will suck you in just the same.

The series, about a group of people -- from a high school cheerleader in West Texas to an L.A. cop to a directionless health-care worker in New York -- who discover they have superhuman abilities, is among the most ambitious new series of this season. Its characters are far-flung and, at first, entirely separate from one another. They're also, for the most part, pretty uncomfortable with their new abilities, be they flight or indestructibility or the power to see the future.

The idea that having superpowers might be a burden is an intriguing one, and it runs counter to most of our childhood fantasies. What "Heroes" does especially well is make a convincing case against wish fulfillment; its characters are genuinely befuddled as to what to make of their powers.

Except, that is, for Tokyo office drone Hiro Nakamura (Masi Oka, who gives an exuberant, breakout performance), who has discovered he can manipulate time and teleport himself. Hiro is the embodiment of every fanboy or -girl who ever dreamed of being imbued with superpowers, and he keeps the show from becoming too angst-ridden, a "thirtysomething" starring the Justice League.

The most interesting heroes are flawed ones, though, and creator Tim Kring ("Crossing Jordan") has done a smart thing by letting us see his characters' origin stories. The series feels a little more grounded for showing their struggles to come to terms with being a little more than human, because it's entirely plausible we'd react the same way.

"Heroes" is not all brooding self-analysis, though. There are also hints early on of nefarious forces, possibly government-related, working to keep the existence of these extraordinary people a secret (if not eliminating them entirely). There's also a particularly grisly serial killer on the loose who may also have some abilities, and a young Indian professor (Sendhil Ramamurthy, who skillfully carries most of the expository weight) trying to figure out what happened to his father, whose theories on evolution might hold the key to finding more such genetically advanced people.

There may be a worldwide catastrophe looming on the horizon. Of course, none of the characters -- except, maybe, the artist (Santiago Cabrera) whose paintings predict the future -- know that yet. Happily, though, Kring does seem to have a pretty good grasp on where things are going, and the pace of the first three episodes is strong, answering a few questions while raising numerous others that can fuel the show for some time to come.

"Heroes" probably won't have much problem appearing to comic-book fans. By keeping its feet planted more or less firmly in recognizable human behavior, though, the show has a pretty good chance to break out.


"Heroes": a folly to cherish (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2006/09/heroes_a_folly_.html)
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I can't wait to see the ratings for "Heroes," which premieres at 9 tonight on NBC.

This drama is the strangest of the roughly 25 series debuting this fall. In the show, everyday people slowly realize they have superheroic powers. How are these people connected? I don't know, and the first three episodes don't supply a clear answer. But "Heroes" does offer marvelous characters and knock-your-socks-off cliffhangers, so I'm hooked by the show.

Will viewers give it a chance? I hope so. It's a wildly original series. (Please see my four-star review in today's Sentinel.) And I hope drag-it-out "Lost," which has burned many viewers, won't stop people from committing to "Heroes."

Pay special attention to Hayden Panettiere (pictured) as a Texas cheerleader, Adrian Pasdar as a New York politician and Masi Oka as a Japanese office worker. Greg Grunberg of "Felicity" and "Alias" comes aboard in week two as a Los Angeles policeman who can hear others' thoughts.

Here are my thoughts: I hope the show keeps getting better, and I hope it succeeds.

"Heroes" might seem like a folly -- how do all these plots fit together?

But it's a folly to love.
   




Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Netherflare on September 25, 2006, 07:48:36 pm
a very good show

that is now my monday show!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: PHI-1618 on September 26, 2006, 01:38:10 pm
a very good show

that is now my monday show!

It precedes my other Monday show: Studio 60.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Slartibartfast on September 27, 2006, 11:52:29 am
The ratings and post air talk.

"Heroes" is heroic (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2006/09/heroes_is_heroi.html)

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NBC's "Heroes" broke out in its premiere Monday night. The action drama follows everyday people, such as one played by Milo Ventimiglia (pictured), who learn they have superheroic powers. "Heroes" averaged 14.1 million viewers and proved potent competition for two CBS comedies. "Two and a Half Men" managed 15.3 million, and "The New Adventures of Old Christine" drew 12.2 million.


What the numbers tell us (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1159336230130800.xml&coll=1)
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Aaron Sorkin may yet save TV, but he won't be saving NBC anytime soon: Sorkin's "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip," in which Matthew Perry as Sorkin's stand-in attempts to rescue television from itself, is one of the most expensive series in network TV history. NBC ripped apart its original fall schedule to protect it after they realized "Grey's" would be moved to "Studio 60's" planned Thursday timeslot, then devoted the bulk of the network's fall marketing to it.

And for all that money and trouble, what did NBC get? A show whose premiere finished a distant second in its timeslot to "CSI: Miami," lost more than 4 million viewers from its "Deal or No Deal" lead-in and another 2 1/2 million from its first half-hour to its second, and another 2 million from its first episode to its second. Not panic numbers, but not remotely what NBC execs must have been expecting from the investment.

If Sorkin can't, maybe "Heroes" will: Making "Studio 60" look even worse was Monday night's premiere of its new lead-in "Heroes," which, with a fraction of the hype given to "Studio 60," opened with more than 14 million viewers, built from its first half-hour to its second, and easily won its hour in 18-49. How many weeks before Sorkin has Perry or Bradley Whitford deliver a rant against comic book movies and TV shows?

I find that pretty funny.  What they never seem to realize, it's not how much you advertise; it's whether or not you've made a show I want to watch.  It might be good, but I don't care about the behind the scenes action of a comedy show.


'Heroes' makes strong debut on NBC (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds37485.html)
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The show, billed as the next Lost and already picked up by Sci-Fi in the UK, averaged 14.3m viewers for the peacock network at 9pm. It came just ahead of a comedy block on CBS, which averaged 14.2m viewers. More importantly, Heroes topped CBS by over 30% in the critical advertiser-friendly 18-49 demographic.
Maybe that's why no one's posting.  Half the people here can't see it!   :'( 

Okay.  That's enough of that.  Start speculating on what the BIG secret is.  I shall return. 
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Fink on September 27, 2006, 06:53:39 pm
I don’t know... I like super heroes (especially time manipulation)

However, I don't see anyone I can really relate to on the show. They all seam, I don’t know, preppy.

Also, It's on one of "those" networks (I don't really watch anything on CBS, NBC, FOX...)

Meh, I might have to look into it
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: PHI-1618 on September 28, 2006, 09:18:43 am
The ratings and post air talk.

"Heroes" is heroic (http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2006/09/heroes_is_heroi.html)

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NBC's "Heroes" broke out in its premiere Monday night. The action drama follows everyday people, such as one played by Milo Ventimiglia (pictured), who learn they have superheroic powers. "Heroes" averaged 14.1 million viewers and proved potent competition for two CBS comedies. "Two and a Half Men" managed 15.3 million, and "The New Adventures of Old Christine" drew 12.2 million.


What the numbers tell us (http://www.nj.com/columns/ledger/sepinwall/index.ssf?/base/columns-0/1159336230130800.xml&coll=1)
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Aaron Sorkin may yet save TV, but he won't be saving NBC anytime soon: Sorkin's "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip," in which Matthew Perry as Sorkin's stand-in attempts to rescue television from itself, is one of the most expensive series in network TV history. NBC ripped apart its original fall schedule to protect it after they realized "Grey's" would be moved to "Studio 60's" planned Thursday timeslot, then devoted the bulk of the network's fall marketing to it.

And for all that money and trouble, what did NBC get? A show whose premiere finished a distant second in its timeslot to "CSI: Miami,"

It's CSI!! My god, what did they expect?

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... lost more than 4 million viewers from its "Deal or No Deal" lead-in

Which is a reality show, part of a genre of current TV that's likely more popular than anything else right now. An additional point: A reality show and a dramedy have nothing in common; it's expected for people to not watch both. Besides, most people's lineup is probably set up as follows: Deal or No Deal, then turn the channel for CSI.

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...and another 2 1/2 million from its first half-hour to its second,

So?

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...and another 2 million from its first episode to its second.

There is always a drop in numbers from a pilot episode to the 2nd episode. What this article doesn't mention is that the average drop-off from one to the other is 50%.

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Not panic numbers, but not remotely what NBC execs must have been expecting from the investment.

Then they're morons for underestimating the power of CSI. Which I doubt.

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If Sorkin can't, maybe "Heroes" will: Making "Studio 60" look even worse was Monday night's premiere of its new lead-in "Heroes," which, with a fraction of the hype given to "Studio 60," opened with more than 14 million viewers, built from its first half-hour to its second, and easily won its hour in 18-49. How many weeks before Sorkin has Perry or Bradley Whitford deliver a rant against comic book movies and TV shows?

A 'fraction of the hype'? Do these people watch that network? For the last three weeks, they have been showing Heroes commercials at least once every commercial break. Everyone I know had heard of Heroes, whereas a small portion of them had heard of Studio 60. The only hype Studio 60 received was from people that already liked Sorkin's work. Heroes was even shown with minimal commercial interruption, so to say that it was playing second-fiddle to Studio 60 from a marketing standpoint is profoundly dumb.

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I find that pretty funny.  What they never seem to realize, it's not how much you advertise; it's whether or not you've made a show I want to watch.  It might be good, but I don't care about the behind the scenes action of a comedy show.

And that's cool. At least you're being realistic about that.

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'Heroes' makes strong debut on NBC (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds37485.html)
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The show, billed as the next Lost and already picked up by Sci-Fi in the UK, averaged 14.3m viewers for the peacock network at 9pm. It came just ahead of a comedy block on CBS, which averaged 14.2m viewers. More importantly, Heroes topped CBS by over 30% in the critical advertiser-friendly 18-49 demographic.
Maybe that's why no one's posting.  Half the people here can't see it!   :'( 

It honestly doesn't matter how well Heroes did with its pilot. What's important is how many people watch the 2nd and 3rd episodes. That's when you see where it's really standing. A pilot getting good ratings on a network that heralded it so much is a given.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Netherflare on October 03, 2006, 06:37:14 pm
yesterday was a great show! I cant wait for next week!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: BPM on October 07, 2006, 11:35:17 pm
I've been working on getting everyone at my workplace hooked on the show. It start with just one of my co-workers and me and we've managed to hype it up to about eight other people in the office to the point where some of us are probably going to start meeting on Mondays to watch the show together. =D
Title: Heroes is destroying the sanctity of nerdness!
Post by: TheMagicHobo on October 10, 2006, 07:57:00 pm
If you have been watching the NBC show Heroes, you know it's destroying the sanctity of nerdness! Sure, Hiro, the asian dude, is a real nerd. But here's where the problem comes. He's so cool, that everyone is going to try to be like him. Over the past years there have been the periodic fake-ass-emo-nerd or fake-ass-emo-geek ever so often, but with Hiro being so cool it's going to cause a whole new wave of fake-ass-y-ness. And even worse! Chrono Trigger, long a cult classic, will now become... DUN DUN DUN! MAIN STREAM! All because of that stupid little blog of his where he mentions it over and over again. Before I could talk to my friends about Chrono Trigger and we'd be the only ones to know about it! But now EVERYONE will know about Chrono Trigger! We will no longer be able to have our precious conversations over whether or not it was Frog or Magus on top of the castle! We will no longer be able to say who was the hottest: Lucca, Marle, or Ayla! We will no longer be able to have our inside jokes about it! All because of NBC's advertising of nerdness! Damn you NBC! DAMN YOU!!!!!!!

I'm done.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Netherflare on October 10, 2006, 08:15:59 pm
can someone tell me what happened yesterday because i was at a band exhibition and missed it.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: TheMagicHobo on October 10, 2006, 08:18:41 pm
Just watch it on the NBC website. They have free webisodes, ya know.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Slartibartfast on October 10, 2006, 11:30:34 pm
can someone tell me what happened yesterday because i was at a band exhibition and missed it.
It will also re-air on SciFi this Friday.  I believe at 8/7 Eastern/Central.  I missed it too.  Thank goodness for TiVo, though.   ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Netherflare on October 17, 2006, 01:44:32 pm
im really still interested in this show. saw it last night and these cliff hangers kill me! I just hope that all this leading up will lead to something great, instead of something that usually turns out real stupid!
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: ilikesanta on October 18, 2006, 12:21:42 am
the frist two episodes were alright and I've been waiting for it to pick up steam and start getting all the "heros" togerther but finally after the thrid episode it's starting to get good. The cliff hanger got me hooked from now on, you can sign me up for the cult. I read in the Seattle Times- (maybe it was the P.I.?) that it's one of the seasons winners so here's to hoping that we'll have many seasons of this show.

ON episode 3 one gripe *minor Spoiler* how could the political brother not know that the chick isn't a striper/hooker she totally did a striper move on him? Also why were poeple trying to set him up, I missed that part.

*END SPOILER*
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: stuck on October 23, 2006, 07:49:07 pm
Well, having caught up, this is one of those VERY rare TV shows I swear to watch regularly. Sign me up for the cult!!

**SPOILERS***
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striper/hooker she totally did a striper move on him?

lol. It was pretty dank when he flew away. Oh, an apparently now the politician's brother soaks in everyone else's powers, so that's cool. And the stripper, what's up with her power? Is it a Jeckyll and Hyde deal or is it a mirror issue?

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On the upside, I have been practicing my time freezing as you guys have said and I think I leveled up my skill. (>_<)(o.o)

ROFL!!!!! From Hiro's blog, BTw.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 24, 2006, 07:39:14 am
the frist two episodes were alright and I've been waiting for it to pick up steam and start getting all the "heros" togerther but finally after the thrid episode it's starting to get good. The cliff hanger got me hooked from now on, you can sign me up for the cult. I read in the Seattle Times- (maybe it was the P.I.?) that it's one of the seasons winners so here's to hoping that we'll have many seasons of this show.

Its ratings are good enough to pretty much guarantee it gets picked up for two more seasons. Whatever decisions are made about maintaining beyond that will likely be made at that time.

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ON episode 3 one gripe *minor Spoiler* how could the political brother not know that the chick isn't a striper/hooker she totally did a striper move on him?

'Cause he's not overly bright.

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Also why were poeple trying to set him up, I missed that part.

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They want to support his candidacy by giving him a donation, but they want to make sure that they can control him once he wins. A donation doesn't mean he'll do anything they say. Having a video of him cheating on his wife provides them leverage to use if they ever want him to do something on their behalf.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Slartibartfast on October 25, 2006, 02:10:04 pm
For some reason I found this in a different thread.   ???

Ratings: Heroes goes up and away (http://www.tv.com/story/story.html?story_id=6868&om_act=convert&click=gumballs&tag=gumballs%3btitle%3b3)

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NBC sci-fi drama becomes highest-rated new fall show; Studio 60 ticks up as well.

Heroes is showing muscle. 

Heroes: Sylar was here. Last night's episode of the freshman series matched its highest ratings yet, 6.2 rating/15 share in 18- to 49-year-olds, with 14.3 million total viewers, according to Nielsen overnights. That's almost 10 percent better than last week's episode, and it makes Heroes the highest-rated new show of the 2006 fall season.

Heroes received a full season order from NBC on October 5, and on Sunday the network ran a marathon. The higher numbers could be attributed to viewers who were on the fence about the serialized drama watching the marathon and liking what they saw.

At 8 p.m., NBC and Deal or No Deal won a 4.4 in 18 to 49s, with CBS earning a combined 3.3 for How I Met Your Mother at a 3.6 and The Class at 2.9. Fox and Prison Break ran away with a 3.2, ABC's Wife Swap blissed a 2.8, and the CW earned a 1.2 for Everybody Hates Chris and All of Us.

At 9 p.m., Heroes soared to its 6.2, followed by CBS with a combined 4.3 for Two and a Half Men at 4.7 and The New Adventures of Old Christine at 3.9. The Bachelor romanced a 3.2 on ABC, and Fox earned a 2.0 for delivering Justice. The CW scored a combined 1.2 for Girlfriends and The Game.

In the 10 p.m. slot, CBS's CSI: Miami and David Caruso took over with a 5.9, followed by NBC's Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip at 3.2--a slight uptick from last week's 3.1. ABC asked What About Brian and received a 2.7 answer.

Overall, NBC earned a 4.6 rating/12 share in 18-49s, with 12.5 million average viewers; CBS a 4.5/11, 13.3 million; ABC a 2.9/7, 7.2 million; Fox a 2.6/7, 7.3 million; and the CW a 1.2/3, 2.8 million.


Excellant.  (http://www.gopusa.com/forum/images/smilies2/cheers.gif)
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: ilikesanta on October 31, 2006, 12:01:10 am
I'm sad to find out that the one girl is playing for the other team :'(
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Slartibartfast on October 31, 2006, 12:51:24 am
I'm sad to find out that the one girl is playing for the other team :'(
I guessed she was when they introduced her.  I predicted a lot of things that were revealed in the new episode.  Of course, the only person I said it to was my roommate and she really doesn't care.   :P

Speculation and Concerns:
1. Everyone needs to learn how to convey information when using a phone.  Peter said 'meet me in New York,' like it's a small town.  Hiro forgot to mention the explosion.
2. I'm worried one of those temporal rifts Hiro keeps worrying about is the cause of the explosion.   :o 
Example: They really didn't save that girl from the truck considering they caused the accident.  Irony at it's most potent.
3. Silar(sp?) is eating those brains and gaining their powers, Highlander style.  That means only Peter has a chance at stopping him.
4. Hiro and Issac are doomed.  Having characters that can travel/see through time is cool when you've got the season planned out, but it's inconveint for the writers later.  They'll be dead by episode two of season two.  Unless, they've secretly pulled a Babylon 5 and have an outline for the next 5 to 7 years.  I doubt that.
5. What happened to the cop(Matt Parkman) in the convenience store?  Is he in a coma?  Jail?  This guy's horribly unlucky.  He'll be dead or bushrooted by the end of the season.   :'( 
6. The kid's not just a genuis, he's a SUPER-Genuis.  Just wait.  It will happen.
7. I think Claire was grown in a test tube.  I'm just guessing on this one, but it seems likely.

Save the cheerleader.  Save the world.

While that sounds cryptic, my roommate pointed out it sounds stupid out of context in a commerical.  If you don't already know what it means, you won't care enough to find out.  Comments?

I think I'm going to post in Hiro's blog, just to do it.  If you join in try to pretend it's for real.  Those are the most fun to read.   ;D
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 31, 2006, 09:45:59 am
I'm sad to find out that the one girl is playing for the other team :'(
I guessed she was when they introduced her.  I predicted a lot of things that were revealed in the new episode.  Of course, the only person I said it to was my roommate and she really doesn't care.   :P

Speculation and Concerns:
1. Everyone needs to learn how to convey information when using a phone.  Peter said 'meet me in New York,' like it's a small town.  Hiro forgot to mention the explosion.
2. I'm worried one of those temporal rifts Hiro keeps worrying about is the cause of the explosion.   :o 
Example: They really didn't save that girl from the truck considering they caused the accident.  Irony at it's most potent.
3. Silar(sp?) is eating those brains and gaining their powers, Highlander style.  That means only Peter has a chance at stopping him.
4. Hiro and Issac are doomed.  Having characters that can travel/see through time is cool when you've got the season planned out, but it's inconveint for the writers later.  They'll be dead by episode two of season two.  Unless, they've secretly pulled a Babylon 5 and have an outline for the next 5 to 7 years.  I doubt that.
5. What happened to the cop(Matt Parkman) in the convenience store?  Is he in a coma?  Jail?  This guy's horribly unlucky.  He'll be dead or bushrooted by the end of the season.   :'( 
6. The kid's not just a genuis, he's a SUPER-Genuis.  Just wait.  It will happen.
7. I think Claire was grown in a test tube.  I'm just guessing on this one, but it seems likely.

Save the cheerleader.  Save the world.

While that sounds cryptic, my roommate pointed out it sounds stupid out of context in a commerical.  If you don't already know what it means, you won't care enough to find out.  Comments?

I think I'm going to post in Hiro's blog, just to do it.  If you join in try to pretend it's for real.  Those are the most fun to read.   ;D

Slartibartfast, you might want to add a [MASSIVE SPOILERS] warning onto the thread title if we're not going to render spoilers of the series illegible.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DMB on October 31, 2006, 05:24:47 pm
*SPOILERS*
Yeah, I do agree with Slarti 's comments. Although:
1.Doesn't Peter already know about the explosion from the painter?
It would make more sense if future Hiro told Peter where to go to find the cheerleader that way they could save her.
True, the cop won't make a lasting appearance since he hasn't made any connection to the other "heroes" at all yet.
Claire does probably have parents. Just she doesn't know who they are yet and the "biological" parents are most likely fake.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: stuck on October 31, 2006, 07:35:15 pm
**SPOILERS**

Speculation and Concerns:
3. Silar(sp?) is eating those brains and gaining their powers, Highlander style.  That means only Peter has a chance at stopping him.

Which one is Silar? Is he the tall, shadowy figure? I don't remember any brain eating.

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4. Hiro and Issac are doomed.  Having characters that can travel/see through time is cool when you've got the season planned out, but it's inconveint for the writers later.  They'll be dead by episode two of season two.  Unless, they've secretly pulled a Babylon 5 and have an outline for the next 5 to 7 years.  I doubt that.

They mentioned that Hiro was put in relatively late in the script writing.

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5. What happened to the cop(Matt Parkman) in the convenience store?  Is he in a coma?  Jail?  This guy's horribly unlucky.  He'll be dead or bushrooted by the end of the season.   :'( 
He went home and made love to his wife. I don't recall anything else happening.

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6. The kid's not just a genuis, he's a SUPER-Genuis.  Just wait.  It will happen.

Which kid?
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: DMB on October 31, 2006, 09:21:25 pm
That prodigy kid that Nikki(that Dr.Jekel and Hyde woman) has as a son.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: Slartibartfast on November 01, 2006, 01:00:52 am
Slartibartfast, you might want to add a [MASSIVE SPOILERS] warning onto the thread title if we're not going to render spoilers of the series illegible.
I was sort of hoping the 15-point, orange letters might serve as a clue, but ok.

Spoiler Alert Levels.
Red -- This is an actually official spoiler from a show that has not aired.  These are normally found at hard core fansites.  I will not post them, or read them, because I like to figure things out for myself.
Orange -- This is the sort of wild speculation I like to make about TV shows.  Based on what I've seen I make a guess, without double checking some official site. 
Yellow -- This is aired episode information.  If you've seen the episode in question it's not a spoiler.  If you missed it you might want to skip these.
Green -- Basic show information.  If you've seen one episode you should already know this.  Basic Character Summaries show also go here.
Blue -- Behind the camera info.  While not directly related to the plot, it might give hints to what they're doing.
1-Which one is Silar? Is he the tall, shadowy figure? I don't remember any brain eating.

2-They mentioned that Hiro was put in relatively late in the script writing.

3-He went home and made love to his wife. I don't recall anything else happening.

4-Which kid?
1. SPOILER ALERT LEVEL Orange! Yes, the shadowy one whose face we haven't seen.  The brain eating is speculation based on what we've seen so far.  The FBI agent said that there had been a string of bizarre mutilation murders, but only some of the victims had their brains removed.  I think he's only taking the brain if they have powers.  The grab bag of powers he demonstrated when he was trying to get the little girl suggests he can absorb the powers of his victims, in some fashion.  Why take their brains unless it's part of the process?  However, all the powers we've seen him use could also be explained if he was a MASTER of telekinesis: we've seen him move things with his mind, therefore his flight and superstrength are merely applications of that power.  When he was shot, he didn't heal quickly or possess invunerablity , he stopped the bullets with his mind!  Either way, he's a super-powered serial killer.

2. Blue:   I did not know that.

3. Yellow:   Remember, after that he went to the convenience store to get coffee flavored ice cream, for his wife, and stopped that guy from robbing the place?  Then he had the gun, but no one else had seen the other guy put it down so everyone there thought HE was trying to rob the place.  It seems he was overwhelmed by their thoughts and passed out, and that's the last time we've seen him.  I hope the video cameras caught the robber putting the gun down or he'll have a hard time explaining what happened.

4.
That prodigy kid that Nikki(that Dr.Jekel and Hyde woman) has as a son.
Micah. 

*SPOILERS*
Yeah, I do agree with Slarti 's comments. Although:
1.Doesn't Peter already know about the explosion from the painter?
2.It would make more sense if future Hiro told Peter where to go to find the cheerleader that way they could save her.
3.True, the cop won't make a lasting appearance since he hasn't made any connection to the other "heroes" at all yet.
4.Claire does probably have parents. Just she doesn't know who they are yet and the "biological" parents are most likely fake.
Orange and Yellow:
1.  Yes, but the Hiro in the present doesn't known that so he should have told him immediately.  Edit: Also, Hiro nows WHEN!

2.  He might have felt too much information would cause a "temporal rift".  I don't know what this truly implies in the show, but I feel Future Hiro knows it as a fact, as opposed to Present Hiro merely speculating on the matter.

3. My money's on Matt being the downtrodden, underdog hero.  Like Aquaman or Blue Beetle.  Unless he's bushrooted into being a villian.

4. I'm sure she has biological parents, but I think she was conceived specifically as part of some sort of genics program, like Weapon X.  The BIG question is WHY is she part of the MIB's family?  Was she assigned to him or did he secretly rescue her from a lab?  Does he really love her as a daughter or is he just pretending.  It's pretty ambiguous either way.  Oh, and the "biological parents" we saw had to be fakes based on the little chat "Dad" had with them when they were getting into their car.

New Concern:
The prophecy is: Save the cheerleader.  Save the world.
It's not save the city or New York. It's save the WORLD.  While I know hyperbole runs rampant in the comic book genre, what if he was being more literal?  I know a nuke in New York might set of might set off World War 3, but what if it was more sinister than that?  We don't know who or what caused the explosion or whether it was actually a nuke.  But the question I'm raising right now is -- What if there's more than one explosion to be averted?  Hiro can only be in one place at a time.  We don't know what was happening anywhere else.  What if major cities all over the world are going to blow up?  One would think Issac would forsee those as well, but what if he's subconsciously focused on his hometown, or suffering from the old the Sci-Fi cliche of a psychic not seeing too far past his own death.  Just a random thought.  Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Heroes
Post by: PHI-1618 on November 01, 2006, 07:39:52 am
Slartibartfast, you might want to add a [MASSIVE SPOILERS] warning onto the thread title if we're not going to render spoilers of the series illegible.
I was sort of hoping the 15-point, orange letters might serve as a clue, but ok.

Okay. It's not just about you. It's about the fact that most of the comments in this thread aren't just general comments about the show. Most require someone saying "*SPOILER*" in front of them, so lets let people know ahead of time that this thread is filled with spoilers and the odds of them having a general conversation in here isn't likely without them getting more information than they might want.

Also: Thanks for the in-depth explanation of your spoiler system. I just personally think this works better. But to each his or her own. :)
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: stuck on November 03, 2006, 07:41:14 pm
Orange Spoiler Alert!

In my opinion, save the cheerleader etc... is being taken far too literally. Everyone at the moment thinks that she will die, though they don't know of her uber-regeneration. Silar most likely confronts her, and as he goes to eat her brain, poof! no more wound. Based on that, I'd say she is indestructible (or really damn close). So saving her may actually mean saving her from "the dark side," or maybe even her dad. Save her, have her fight on your side, win. That is my guess.

And thanks for informing me. I actually missed the first episode.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Slartibartfast on November 04, 2006, 02:46:41 am
Here's the The Official/Unofficial Fan Site for Heroes. (http://www.9thwonders.com/index.php)
Warning: it's Tim Kring's (the show's creator) fan site, so it has a very large spoiler section.  Its episode guide is even five shows ahead.  Must . . . fight urge . . . to look.  I might even sign up.  I'll need a new secret identity though.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: stuck on November 07, 2006, 01:39:09 pm
Yellow Spoiler Alert!

Well, the latest episode certainly cleared a few things up a bit?

Micah isn't technically a SUPERgenius, but he does fix stuff, not sure if it is telekinesis or what.

We found out what happened to the police officer. I found the dialog inside his partner's head quiet amusing (sadistic, I know) :D

Also, the cop had a tattoo on his neck as did the pyro. Could this be a tattoo that signifies they are special, or a tattoo that signifies when they meet?

And who's side is that guy really on? O_o
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 07, 2006, 05:14:20 pm
I find the story progressing very, very, slowly.... I mean, there wasn't a big change in the story from last night's episode
Spoilers - from TV show

Well, at least we know how that A-bomb is going to explode but the whole Claire's brother finding out her secret wasn't such a big deal. Honestly, what would the kid do? And also whatever happened to the whole scene with Matt collapsing at the drug store? Nothing really happened between the Petrelli brothers so nothing much there. I hope this show starts to get to the good stuff.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: ilikesanta on November 07, 2006, 06:56:56 pm
That's the problem I had with the latest episode is that all the heros all are over the place, so the sorry is bogged down a lot, and it's odd because the last two episodes were really getting the show going.

Spoiler My crazy specilation is that the abomb isn't a bomd but radioactive man we just meet in the last episode. Major givaway was when he said he didn't know what whould happen to him if he got shot. Only problem with this theory is that I don't think radioactive man is in New York, but maybe he gets his brains eaten?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Slartibartfast on November 08, 2006, 09:11:00 am
I think that was an orange, ilikesanta.

ORANGE mostly.
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Micah isn't technically a SUPERgenius, but he does fix stuff, not sure if it is telekinesis or what.
Appears to be: Technokinesis (sometimes called Cyberkinesis, Technopathy or Cyberpathy) is the ability to mentally manipulate technology and/or machines.

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Also, the cop had a tattoo on his neck as did the pyro. Could this be a tattoo that signifies they are special, or a tattoo that signifies when they meet?
I think that's a catch and release tag from our good friend Mr. Bennet.
Sort of overstated though.  :-\

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And who's side is that guy really on? O_o
Remember, he probably thinks he's the good guy protecting normal people from dangerous freaks.  It also seems like he might actually love his daughter.

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at least we know how that A-bomb is going to explode
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My crazy specilation is that the abomb isn't a bomd but radioactive man we just meet in the last episode
I have a feeling Mr. Radioactive might be a red herring.  I could be wrong though.  It's seems . . . too blatant.

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Claire's brother . . . what would the kid do?
That was character development.  Claire is a teenager.  She's not worried about the big picture; she's worried about upsetting her parents.  That's a big deal to her.

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whatever happened to the whole scene with Matt collapsing at the drug store?
They seemed to just skip it, like it wasn't a problem.   >:(  Oh, and my wife's cheating on me.  I feel sorry for the guy.  Can we say BUSHROOTED!  (If you don't know what that means, it will make me feel old.)

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but maybe he gets his brains eaten?
I can't wait till they reveal if that's what's happening or just our rampant speculation, but I think there is some brain eating going on, too.
 

Not a spoiler! (Wow, we "spoil" a lot.)
I think Hiro's catch phrase should be:

IT'S HIRO TIME!

It's great on so many levels.  I already said as much on his "blog."  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: sgore on November 09, 2006, 11:59:54 am
ORANGE
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And who's side is that guy really on? O_o
Remember, he probably thinks he's the good guy protecting normal people from dangerous freaks.  It also seems like he might actually love his daughter.

Who ever said he was doing that?
I'm guessing he's part of some organization to track all this and other such things. (That doesn't include going after them. We haven't actually seen him do anything 'Bad' per se. We've just seen clips of him doing things that look suspicious. We've no proof he even had anything to do with the death of Sheresh's father

Maroon, AKA, FROM An OFFICAL Video preview for upcoming episodes shown eigther after an episode's airing as a commerical or on the NBC Heroes website. Doesn't seem to be a catagory for anything like that.

According to a video clip I saw on the site, Mr.Bennet is asking for Issac's help with something... He's sitting on a table in a doctors office like room.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Slartibartfast on November 10, 2006, 04:00:48 am
I'ld say commericals/anything that airs on TV are yellow, just be sure to mention that it's a commerical or whatever in the warning.  If you've seen it cool, if not read at your own risk.

Orange.
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And who's side is that guy really on? O_o
Remember, he probably thinks he's the good guy protecting normal people from dangerous freaks.  It also seems like he might actually love his daughter.
Who ever said he was doing that?
I'm guessing he's part of some organization to track all this and other such things. (That doesn't include going after them. We haven't actually seen him do anything 'Bad' per se. We've just seen clips of him doing things that look suspicious. We've no proof he even had anything to do with the death of Sheresh's father

I didn't say he was, I was just raising the possibility that his motives, not actually being known, may be in fact well intentioned
Yes, he's some sort of watcher, so the question does come down to why does he watch and for who?  The problem is we really don't have a clue yet.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Hydromancerx on November 10, 2006, 04:01:41 am
I like "Hiro (Future)" stats! I bet i would do that to if i was a super hero. Oh well i guess a Naucean from Naucanica will have to do :P
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Netherflare on November 15, 2006, 06:25:22 pm
maybe spoilers?

i loved the personality of that waitress in the coffee shop that died. And i hope Hiro brings her back if he does his time traveling correctly! And what was Mr. Bennet saying about the guy in the coat killing people. He said he killed someone before he kills his daughter which will happen next week. I am wondering who that person was and did we meet them?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 15, 2006, 07:18:31 pm
Spoilers...
You mean, Sylar? We haven't met him yet but we most likely will in the next episode. I must say, Hiro is on a roll. He has probably saved more people than any of the heroes. Also, liked the ending of the last episodes....*photo of Hiro and waitress at her birthday*  :D She might be an important character in the series if Sylar had a reason to kill her.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: PHI-1618 on November 17, 2006, 10:55:52 am
Spoilers...
You mean, Sylar? We haven't met him yet but we most likely will in the next episode. I must say, Hiro is on a roll. He has probably saved more people than any of the heroes. Also, liked the ending of the last episodes....*photo of Hiro and waitress at her birthday*  :D She might be an important character in the series if Sylar had a reason to kill her.

I think when Sylar kills other people with powers, he adopts their abilities. I'm not sure if that's his power or if it's part of having powers in the series. I may be wrong, but that's truly what I think is happening with him because he obviously has more than one power. Also: Peter is the only one that I can think of with the power to take Sylar down in a fight.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 17, 2006, 07:44:39 pm
Spoilers...
You mean, Sylar? We haven't met him yet but we most likely will in the next episode. I must say, Hiro is on a roll. He has probably saved more people than any of the heroes. Also, liked the ending of the last episodes....*photo of Hiro and waitress at her birthday*  :D She might be an important character in the series if Sylar had a reason to kill her.

I think when Sylar kills other people with powers, he adopts their abilities. I'm not sure if that's his power or if it's part of having powers in the series. I may be wrong, but that's truly what I think is happening with him because he obviously has more than one power. Also: Peter is the only one that I can think of with the power to take Sylar down in a fight.
How is that? Peter has just barely begun to use the powers ( yeah, I know he helps the cheerleader in the next show teaser) I also find it strange that the cheerleader must be saved since she is after all, invincible. It doesn't really seem possible to kill her at all. Anyways... ITS HIRO TIME!
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: PHI-1618 on November 17, 2006, 10:41:44 pm
Spoilers...
You mean, Sylar? We haven't met him yet but we most likely will in the next episode. I must say, Hiro is on a roll. He has probably saved more people than any of the heroes. Also, liked the ending of the last episodes....*photo of Hiro and waitress at her birthday*  :D She might be an important character in the series if Sylar had a reason to kill her.

I think when Sylar kills other people with powers, he adopts their abilities. I'm not sure if that's his power or if it's part of having powers in the series. I may be wrong, but that's truly what I think is happening with him because he obviously has more than one power. Also: Peter is the only one that I can think of with the power to take Sylar down in a fight.
How is that? Peter has just barely begun to use the powers ( yeah, I know he helps the cheerleader in the next show teaser) I also find it strange that the cheerleader must be saved since she is after all, invincible. It doesn't really seem possible to kill her at all. Anyways... ITS HIRO TIME!

Peter's power is that he absorbs the powers of people around him. Which means he'd get all of Sylar's powers and hers, if he was forced to fight Sylar. And she's not invincible against Sylar: The guy can seemingly scalp someone in seconds, way faster than even she can heal. All he'd have to do is behead her. She's definitely in danger from him, without a doubt.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 18, 2006, 01:12:52 pm
Nice observation. So I guess that means Peter kind of absorbed his brother's power.  Also what can Nikki/Jessica do to help? It seems all she does it get revenge on the people who want to hurt her and kills them.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: stuck on November 18, 2006, 10:00:24 pm
For the record, I like the color code much better.

Orange Spoiler

Nikki/Jessica is like a Dr. Jekyll Mr. Hyde type thing. Her Mr. Hyde can rip people to shreds, too. So she is a force to be reckoned with. And here's how I think our hero's powers compare:

1. Hiro
2. Peter
3. Sylar
4. Cheerleader (forgot name :P)
5. The rest in no definite order.

Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 18, 2006, 10:31:25 pm
Really True....
I would want Hiro's powers the most...

Maybe we should start a list of records of how many people each Hero saves(so far):

Hiro : 4 (maybe more)(if you include Future Hiro's message then its 4 billion)
Peter: 0(if you include Future Hiro's message then its 4 billion)
Nathan:0
Nikki/Jessica: -5 or 4
Matt:1 or more
Claire the cheerleader:1(so far)
The Painter:0
Micah:0

EDIT: Actually, never mind the list. They would all eventually save everyone.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: ilikesanta on November 19, 2006, 11:16:57 pm
Crazy Spoliers

I think the reason in the end of the last epsode where Hiro went back in time but nothing changed. I think he made friends with the waitress and got here to start here trip around the world early, but the Phycho killer guy went and killed the wrong waitress.

Also did any one see the trailer for the new episode, it looked like in one scene the there were two copies of the Indian guy. like he might have powers like multiple man? I always miss the last bit of the comercial so i could be wrong. Can anyone comfirm or deny what I saw?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Slartibartfast on November 20, 2006, 01:28:50 am
For the record, I like the color code much better.
Thank you.  I have never liked having to hit quote or having to cut and paste to read a message.  This thread is for the fans.  We should not have to worry about spoiling it for some random passerby.

Anyway,
Spoilers...
You mean, Sylar? We haven't met him yet but we most likely will in the next episode. I must say, Hiro is on a roll. He has probably saved more people than any of the heroes. Also, liked the ending of the last episodes....*photo of Hiro and waitress at her birthday*  :D She might be an important character in the series if Sylar had a reason to kill her.

I think when Sylar kills other people with powers, he adopts their abilities. I'm not sure if that's his power or if it's part of having powers in the series. I may be wrong, but that's truly what I think is happening with him because he obviously has more than one power. Also: Peter is the only one that I can think of with the power to take Sylar down in a fight.
How is that? Peter has just barely begun to use the powers ( yeah, I know he helps the cheerleader in the next show teaser) I also find it strange that the cheerleader must be saved since she is after all, invincible. It doesn't really seem possible to kill her at all. Anyways... ITS HIRO TIME!

Peter's power is that he absorbs the powers of people around him. Which means he'd get all of Sylar's powers and hers, if he was forced to fight Sylar. And she's not invincible against Sylar: The guy can seemingly scalp someone in seconds, way faster than even she can heal. All he'd have to do is behead her. She's definitely in danger from him, without a doubt.
ORANGES Follow:
Claire is definitely not invincible.  Remember when she had the stick stuck in her head?  She was clinically dead for, at least, a few hours.  More than enough time to take her brain.

Crazy Spoliers

I think the reason in the end of the last epsode where Hiro went back in time but nothing changed. I think he made friends with the waitress and got here to start here trip around the world early, but the Phycho killer guy went and killed the wrong waitress.

Also did any one see the trailer for the new episode, it looked like in one scene the there were two copies of the Indian guy. like he might have powers like multiple man? I always miss the last bit of the comercial so i could be wrong. Can anyone comfirm or deny what I saw?
1.  That's what I'm thinking too.  Sylar, using Mohinder's father's research could only figure out WHERE they were.  He'd have to figure out WHO they were.
2.  I'm not sure anymore, whether Mohinder will have powers or not, considering the revelation his dead sister was "special."  I don't think he'll have multiple man powers, however.  I'm sure it was another dream sequence we're he is watching himself again.

Dark Orange:  Did you read the papers Mohinder found?  Sleep study reveals new area of brain.  I think all the powers are controlled by that area.  It may even be the part the stick got stuck in(see above).  That also makes it the part Sylar wants.  I'm still not sure if Sylar has stolen any powers or is just a master of telekinesis, like I proposed earlier.  If it's anything like Aberrant (see first post) he's not doing it to  steal their powers, he's taking the hormones from that area to get super high.
Also, if you watch the computer screen, Nikki's tattoo went by as a gap in the DNA code that was being . . . calculated(?).

Two alternate oranges but red if either theory is right:
I've been thinking about why Claire is so important.
   
Theory One: While Claire's power is pretty cool and it would be a problem if Sylar got it, assuming he can take powers.  I don't think saving the world is intrinsically related to either of them.  It's about Mr. Bennett's general response to "specials."  Currently, he has a wait and watch attitude about the whole thing.  If his daughter was murdered by one, however, he would most likely take very negative and proactive actions against all of them.  He would use his influence to change his agency from watching to eliminating specials, or go rogue and do it himself.  The consequences could spiral out of control in a dozen different ways.  Or, Claire could be saved by specials and he forms a top secret team of them to police the others. 

Theory Two:  It's not Claire that needs saving!  :o  It's the cheerleader that took credit for what Claire did. (Name?)  Remember Sylar doesn't know who, just where.  He has to figure it out for himself and guesses wrong.  A pretty blond cheerleader having her brain taken after her homecoming dance WILL make it into the national news.  There will be no way of covering it up.  Heck, if that happened in the real world, we'd never hear the end of it, till it was solved.  Eventually, the public learns about the specials, anti-special sentiment skyrockets, insert X-men like comparisons and events, etc., the world descends into chaos.          
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: PHI-1618 on November 20, 2006, 12:18:16 pm
Nice observation. So I guess that means Peter kind of absorbed his brother's power.  Also what can Nikki/Jessica do to help? It seems all she does it get revenge on the people who want to hurt her and kills them.
I'm relatively certain she possesses super-strength.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: stuck on November 20, 2006, 02:38:38 pm
That makes absolutely perfect sense, Slarti. (The dark orange).
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: DMB on November 20, 2006, 05:01:40 pm
Nice observation. So I guess that means Peter kind of absorbed his brother's power.  Also what can Nikki/Jessica do to help? It seems all she does it get revenge on the people who want to hurt her and kills them.
I'm relatively certain she possesses super-strength.
Spoilers
No, she doesn't have super strength. We don't see her being able to lift any heavy object. She's just invulnerable to most things. I'm not sure if the removal of the head would actually kill her but she does heal back any minor injuries. Also to clear things up, Hiro was in the pic of the waitress's birthday and she said it was a week earlier. Perhaps, Hiro does change something in the future. Also, Sylar probably does know which cheerleader it is(maybe from finding evidence of the videotape, I don't really know..) Anyone know why Mr.Bennet captured two specials and then let them go? What purpose did he have for them? ???
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Post by: Slartibartfast on November 20, 2006, 07:34:13 pm
Hiro (Masi Oka) is on Conan TONIGHT!  Why don't they tell us these things earlier?

I normally wouldn't post something like this, but I HAD to tell somebody.
Spoiler:
Warning Nerd Level
OFF THE SCALE!

'Heroes' star Masi Oka living the dream (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-11-19-hiro-main_x.htm)
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In an upcoming episode, George Takei (Star Trek's Mr. Sulu) will play the father of Star Trek fan Hiro.
How a 'geek' became a Hero (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-11-19-hiro-side_x.htm)
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Post by: ilikesanta on November 20, 2006, 09:33:16 pm
I'm half-way threw, So far this episode is great!

*edit done with episode*

ahhhh why can't the season 1 dvd come out now, need to watch them all, at once!!!
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Post by: DMB on November 20, 2006, 11:54:33 pm
Spoilers
Wow, what a heck of an episode last night, huh? I can see the show now progressing. I kinda did expect more who would save the cheerleader than just Peter Petrelli. I also did want to see more of Hiro... I also admit to you guys that you were right about Peter being able to absorb powers. But I was also right, that waitress was special too. ;)
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Post by: PHI-1618 on November 21, 2006, 10:48:57 am
Nice observation. So I guess that means Peter kind of absorbed his brother's power.  Also what can Nikki/Jessica do to help? It seems all she does it get revenge on the people who want to hurt her and kills them.
I'm relatively certain she possesses super-strength.
Spoilers
No, she doesn't have super strength. We don't see her being able to lift any heavy object. She's just invulnerable to most things. I'm not sure if the removal of the head would actually kill her but she does heal back any minor injuries. Also to clear things up, Hiro was in the pic of the waitress's birthday and she said it was a week earlier. Perhaps, Hiro does change something in the future. Also, Sylar probably does know which cheerleader it is(maybe from finding evidence of the videotape, I don't really know..) Anyone know why Mr.Bennet captured two specials and then let them go? What purpose did he have for them? ???

You are mistaking Claire for Nikki / Jessica. I think the latter does have super-strength. She tossed her husband like a friggin' ragdoll.
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Post by: DMB on November 21, 2006, 05:38:56 pm
Oh right, her. Yeah I just got those two mixed up. But still...she seems more like a bounty hunter than a super strength woman. :-\
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Post by: Hydromancerx on November 21, 2006, 05:45:33 pm
It was a good episode, but i kind of already figured out what would happen to Peter after seeing the painting. I mean look at his power of course he would be able do that.

(Note my comment is left vague not to spoil anyone who has not seen it yet)
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Post by: ilikesanta on November 21, 2006, 05:50:27 pm
The writers are starting to smudge the lines on who's is good and who's evil. Peter's Brother, acts like a jerk most of the time, but then he seemed cool when he flew and met Hiro. There's Nikki/Jessica who's good and evil. Her husband sounded like he's a bad guy but is seems more likable now. Then the father of Clare who seemed like he was the main baddy but now he looks like a great father. I like it, but then again it feels like I'm watching the prolog still, make them a team already arhh.
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Post by: stuck on November 22, 2006, 12:23:40 pm
RED SPOILER ALERT!!!

If you're thinking you're watching the prologue now, then wait until next episode! It takes place six months earlier and discusses how the heroes discovered their powers.
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Post by: Interitus on November 23, 2006, 12:01:22 pm
I finally caught an episode. According to all my friends who are fans, I picked the worst episode to watch. I have to admit, that was a really bad episode, that was my first episode and after I knew enough I had already figured out how it was going to end. I was going to not bother watching it anymore because that episode was just.. really bad. But I've been assured that almost all the other episodes are much better.
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Post by: DMB on November 23, 2006, 12:25:22 pm
I finally caught an episode. According to all my friends who are fans, I picked the worst episode to watch. I have to admit, that was a really bad episode, that was my first episode and after I knew enough I had already figured out how it was going to end. I was going to not bother watching it anymore because that episode was just.. really bad. But I've been assured that almost all the other episodes are much better.
Which episode did you watch?  ???
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Post by: Interitus on November 23, 2006, 05:30:51 pm
The one that was on this Monday.. Tuesday? Whenever it's on  :P  The one with the paintings
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Post by: Slartibartfast on November 23, 2006, 05:47:29 pm
The one that was on this Monday.. Tuesday? Whenever it's on  :P  The one with the paintings
Do you have any idea how vague that is?  If your talking about the most recent one on Monday it was actually pretty good.
Only the second episode has left me feeling disappointed after watching it.  Maybe this show's not for you.  Maybe you should watch it from the beginning so it will all make more sense to you. 
The Sci-fi Channel marathon on Nov. 29 (http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=29-NOV-2006&feed_req=) of the first 6 episodes should help.
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Post by: DMB on November 23, 2006, 08:25:58 pm
Its not much but Masi Oka was on the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade! He didn't say much. :P Al Roker messed up a lot when talking to the cast of Heroes.  :P
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Post by: Interitus on November 24, 2006, 03:07:59 pm
The one that was on this Monday.. Tuesday? Whenever it's on  :P  The one with the paintings
Do you have any idea how vague that is?  If your talking about the most recent one on Monday it was actually pretty good.
Only the second episode has left me feeling disappointed after watching it.  Maybe this show's not for you.  Maybe you should watch it from the beginning so it will all make more sense to you. 
The Sci-fi Channel marathon on Nov. 29 (http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=29-NOV-2006&feed_req=) of the first 6 episodes should help.


That was kind of my point, I wasn't trying to have any spoilers, and you figured it out  :P  Yes I've been told that it's better if I watch it from the beginning. But so far all my RL friends who watch the show still say I picked the worst episode to start watching it. And that may have been the only episode I've ever seen and I might know nothing about the series but even I can tell you that was a really bad episode.
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Post by: ilikesanta on November 27, 2006, 10:30:44 pm
Grr I missed the first half of the show because I was watching my hawks on Monday night football. Thank god they replay the episodes on the interweb. I was sad at the end with the Hiro story line.  :'(
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Post by: DMB on November 27, 2006, 10:40:17 pm
Yeah, I felt the same way. I admit, I actually prefer it that way. It just goes to show that hero can't save everyone. btw When Hiro teleported after he was about to kiss Charlie, did he teleport to the present and then traveled back to Texas or just back to Japan, wait six months, then traveled to Texas?
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Post by: PHI-1618 on November 28, 2006, 10:38:09 am
Yeah, I felt the same way. I admit, I actually prefer it that way. It just goes to show that hero can't save everyone. btw When Hiro teleported after he was about to kiss Charlie, did he teleport to the present and then traveled back to Texas or just back to Japan, wait six months, then traveled to Texas?


He was about to kiss Charlie, then teleported to the present day in Japan. From there, he seems to have taken a plane and taxi back to the diner where Ando was waiting dutifully like a puppy for days. At least, that's what I'm assuming based on one of their co-workers saying, "I thought you and Ando were vacationing in America?"
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Post by: Netherflare on November 30, 2006, 07:00:29 pm
i cried so hard from the Hiro ending. But she would have lived 6 more months right? Even with the tumor. I really liked that girl and wanted her to live!

But now that Syrus guy is out and we know who he is. This last episode really summed up alot of my questions. But now more questions are being revealed also!
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Post by: DMB on December 01, 2006, 06:43:51 pm
The only question that really wasn't answered for me was "How did they get their powers?" Genetics just seems the easy way out for the writers of the show.
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Post by: sgore on December 01, 2006, 08:49:12 pm
The only question that really wasn't answered for me was "How did they get their powers?" Genetics just seems the easy way out for the writers of the show.
You know, Not everyone can be lucky enough to get their superpowers through chemical explosions or being jetisioned to other solar systems.

 ;)
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Post by: Ogianres on December 01, 2006, 09:25:11 pm
The only question that really wasn't answered for me was "How did they get their powers?" Genetics just seems the easy way out for the writers of the show.
I believe that was Marvel's idea behind X-men i.e. they could create any number of superheroes they wanted without having to give detailed background information on how they got them in the first place for each character.
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Post by: Inkling on December 04, 2006, 11:10:15 am
The only question that really wasn't answered for me was "How did they get their powers?" Genetics just seems the easy way out for the writers of the show.
I believe that was Marvel's idea behind X-men i.e. they could create any number of superheroes they wanted without having to give detailed background information on how they got them in the first place for each character.

I always thought using genetics as the explanation for superpowers was a cop-out.  I guess it works for some powers such as regeneration for Claire and Wolverine, but how are you going to going to develop the gene to bend the space/time continuum?
Other than that, the show's awesome.  Hiro's my favorite (of course), followed by the Petrelli brothers and the cheerleader.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on December 04, 2006, 12:53:36 pm
The only question that really wasn't answered for me was "How did they get their powers?" Genetics just seems the easy way out for the writers of the show.
I believe that was Marvel's idea behind X-men i.e. they could create any number of superheroes they wanted without having to give detailed background information on how they got them in the first place for each character.

I always thought using genetics as the explanation for superpowers was a cop-out.  I guess it works for some powers such as regeneration for Claire and Wolverine, but how are you going to going to develop the gene to bend the space/time continuum?
Other than that, the show's awesome.  Hiro's my favorite (of course), followed by the Petrelli brothers and the cheerleader.

Depends upon which theory of time you're working from. Physics can get a wee bit slippery on occasion.
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Post by: Netherflare on December 04, 2006, 07:14:47 pm
so this latest episode got me thinking, does Mr. Bennette have powers? And is the guys that works for Mr Bennette good or bad because it seems he didnt want to wipe your mind.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on December 04, 2006, 08:27:06 pm
so this latest episode got me thinking, does Mr. Bennette have powers? And is the guys that works for Mr Bennette good or bad because it seems he didnt want to wipe your mind.

I don't think Mr. Bennett has powers. And I don't think any of this is working along the good or bad lines we're accustomed to. It seems very mixed and mingled. The only exception to that really is Sylar.
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Post by: Inkling on December 04, 2006, 10:25:27 pm
I think that they're trying to avoid having the characters line up along the lines of good and evil.  And it should be interesting to see what the Hatian's up to, but we have to wait til January... >:(
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Post by: Neoadept on December 05, 2006, 03:11:24 am
I'm more interested in what happened to Peter.  Was that an actual vision of the future, and if so, where's the person he got the power (seeing the future, not exploding) from?  Stupid January...
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Post by: stuck on December 05, 2006, 03:50:56 pm
As to Peter exploding:

As comical as it sounds, I think Peter is getting a "power overload", and all of the heroes powers together are short-circuiting him.

As to Mr. Bennet:

I don't believe he has any powers, but I thought the same thing.

As to the aptly named Haitian:

I think that he was visited by future Hiro and told to save the cheerleader, save the world.
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Post by: DMB on December 05, 2006, 04:44:40 pm
I thought Peter came into contact with Ted in the future and kinda absorbed his powers, then explodes.

Anyways, I'm on the list! hehehehe. Super DMB! ;D
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Post by: ilikesanta on December 05, 2006, 08:15:16 pm
I'm more interested in what happened to Peter.  Was that an actual vision of the future, and if so, where's the person he got the power (seeing the future, not exploding) from?  Stupid January...

SPOLIERS
I don't think it's a true vision of the future. In this last episode he had a dream about his brother visiting him in his cell, but when his brother did visit him it happened differently. Like one of his first dreams he had of him flying off the building he flew into the city, but when he tryed to fly he fell like a rock until his brother caught him. SO what does his newest dream mean? For sure All the Heros will end up in New York. Peter will probably absorb some Powers either from that Radioactive man, Syris,  or maybe he can't handle being around so many people with powers at once, that he overloads and goes boom (this last one doesn't seem as likely to me.) I assume they all find away to stop Peter from exploding, but we'll have to wait untill Jan 22 or later - boo.

But the dream also raises some other questions like why is Clare say she sorry when she is getting away from him? Is it because she did something to him, or is she just sorry that he's going to explode. :P
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Post by: PHI-1618 on December 05, 2006, 09:24:09 pm
As to Peter exploding:

As comical as it sounds, I think Peter is getting a "power overload", and all of the heroes powers together are short-circuiting him.

I think he's in close proximity to the radiation man they introduced some episodes back. He even commented to the cop about what might happen if he were seriously hurt while using his power (or, in Peter's case, borrowing the guy's radiation power and not knowing how to control it).

EDIT: Beat'd, beat'n, and generally maligned by DMB.
I hate you. :)

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As to Mr. Bennet:

I don't believe he has any powers, but I thought the same thing.

I think his name would've been on the list if he had any powers.

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As to the aptly named Haitian:

I think that he was visited by future Hiro and told to save the cheerleader, save the world.

Hmm. Possibly. Good guess though. :)
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Post by: sgore on December 09, 2006, 05:36:59 am
SPOLIERS
But the dream also raises some other questions like why is Clare say she sorry when she is getting away from him? Is it because she did something to him, or is she just sorry that he's going to explode. :P

SPOLIERS
And if it isn't a symbolistic dream why is she wearing her Cheerleading costume?
And if it Is Sylar or someone different as has been speculated elsewhere, Why does Simone look so franticly upset as Issac tries to pull her away?
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Post by: DMB on December 10, 2006, 01:05:35 am
SPOLIERS
But the dream also raises some other questions like why is Clare say she sorry when she is getting away from him? Is it because she did something to him, or is she just sorry that he's going to explode. :P

SPOLIERS
And if it isn't a symbolistic dream why is she wearing her Cheerleading costume?
And if it Is Sylar or someone different as has been speculated elsewhere, Why does Simone look so franticly upset as Issac tries to pull her away?
Well she does like Peter...and she did probably want to stop him from exploding...
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 08, 2007, 05:54:42 am
two more weeks!
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Post by: Gil on January 08, 2007, 08:44:41 am
Another thing, what will be the role of the black man that always was with Mr. Bennett. What's his name, his power is clearly being able to stop the power of others.
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 08, 2007, 09:40:43 am
he's referd to as the Hatian.
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Post by: DMB on January 08, 2007, 07:05:12 pm
Theories:
1. I was just thinking some time ago, couldn't the hatian save the world? Couldn't he just stop Peter from exploding?  :P

2. In the teaser for the new Heroes episodes, I noticed that hiro was in a meuseum. Perhaps he also has the power to bring back old things from the past to the present such as, oh I don't know, a dinosaur?
 ??? ??? ???
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 09, 2007, 08:17:51 am
He'll bring back a t-rex to eat peter and save the world.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on January 22, 2007, 12:13:26 am
Tonight!
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Post by: DMB on January 22, 2007, 05:52:37 pm
INDEED. woot. ;D
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Post by: stuck on January 22, 2007, 06:44:00 pm
Aghh!! What time is it on?? I think I may have missed it! (I'm in central time too.) When do they show reruns?

EDIT: Nevermind, I tuned in just in time to make sense of it. Great episode to start the season

**SPOILERS**

-What will be the significance of Clair's mom?

-Will the invisible guy be the cause for the explosion?

-Why is Nate's brother standing next to him now?

And many more!
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Post by: Hydromancerx on January 23, 2007, 01:31:56 am
This is getting better and better. I love the new invisible guy :D

Also ...

Hiro: *whispers little* woooooosh!! *hand movements like a  small rocket*

That was my favorite line!
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 23, 2007, 06:18:00 am
Orange Spoilers
-What will be the significance of Clair's mom?
Was it just me or did that look like Peter's Mom? This would give Clair a good reason to go to NY.

-Will the invisible guy be the cause for the explosion?
No the guy who will make peter explode is the guy in Nevada who was making light with his hands. The Invisible guy seems like he will be a bad guy

-Why is Nate's brother standing next to him now?
You mean Peter's brother? I don't know.

How did Syris not escape after he killed what's her name. He should have high tailed it out of there and now he's a vegetable. I feel like I missed something.

EDIT One more thing was anyone else disappointed with Hiro and the T-rex. I guess it saved use the pain of bad CG, but still it would have been cool.
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Post by: DMB on January 23, 2007, 04:02:28 pm
Orange Spoilers
-What will be the significance of Clair's mom?
Was it just me or did that look like Peter's Mom? This would give Clair a good reason to go to NY.

-Will the invisible guy be the cause for the explosion?
No the guy who will make peter explode is the guy in Nevada who was making light with his hands. The Invisible guy seems like he will be a bad guy

-Why is Nate's brother standing next to him now?
You mean Peter's brother? I don't know.

How did Syris not escape after he killed what's her name. He should have high tailed it out of there and now he's a vegetable. I feel like I missed something.

EDIT One more thing was anyone else disappointed with Hiro and the T-rex. I guess it saved use the pain of bad CG, but still it would have been cool.
Yeah, I think they just left out a part of how Sylar became weak and how did he manage to break through the glass to get to Edin? I thought the glass was power proof.
Anyways, I think the invisible guy will actually help Peter control it somehow.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on January 23, 2007, 10:14:14 pm
Yeah, I think they just left out a part of how Sylar became weak and how did he manage to break through the glass to get to Edin? I thought the glass was power proof.

I'm not sure it was power proof, so much as bulletproof. I think they assumed it would be enough to stop him, not totally understanding how powerful he was.

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Anyways, I think the invisible guy will actually help Peter control it somehow.

I think they're going to go that route as well, but I question it to some extent. If I'm guessing right, the guy's invisibility is always on, so I find him teaching anyone how to control their power to be an odd concept.
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 23, 2007, 11:57:07 pm
Ok I saw the preview again and I think I'm wrong that Clair and Peter are brother and sister.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on January 24, 2007, 12:27:37 am
Ok I saw the preview again and I think I'm wrong that Clair and Peter are brother and sister.

Claire's still growing up. Believe me, someday, Peter will be happy she isn't his sister.

(http://infohost.nmt.edu/~ejordan/winky.gif)
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Post by: DMB on January 25, 2007, 11:03:09 pm
I just noticed that at the beginning of the episode, it said 2 week later. Is it  2 weeks after Peter fell into a coma? Wouldn't that mean the bomb would go off in one week? ???
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 26, 2007, 12:00:56 am
Yeah it's two weeks after Petter fell into coma. I'm not sure the time frame when the bomb goes off anymore. Because they saved Clare/cheerleader the artiest dude never got his brain eaten when the bomb first went off so things got pushed back. But If I had to guess they will leave the bomb going off until the season finale.
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Post by: Inkling on January 26, 2007, 11:23:55 am
I wonder if they've had the elections yet.  Nathan doesn't seem too worried about his race anymore.
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 26, 2007, 01:49:23 pm
I think that happens around the same time the bomb goes off. If I remember correctly in the dream it shows Nathan walking out of his campaign headquarters.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on January 26, 2007, 11:09:06 pm
The explosion occurred the day after the election, in the original timeline.
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Post by: emmet on January 27, 2007, 04:37:14 am
Tell me, on TV over there, have they only yet aired the first episode of the second series?
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Post by: Slartibartfast on January 28, 2007, 12:07:16 am
Tell me, on TV over there, have they only yet aired the first episode of the second series?
???

The first episode of the second half of the first season was the one that aired Monday.
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Post by: emmet on January 28, 2007, 01:19:50 am
Oh okay, good. I'm watching this on some free TV show watching website, and I only had up to the two weeks later episode on it, so i thought that maybe they just stopped putting up those sites after that episode.
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Post by: Netherflare on January 29, 2007, 01:32:05 pm
WOOT! it is on tonight!
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Post by: Hydromancerx on January 29, 2007, 05:09:02 pm
WOOT! it is on tonight!

Yay!
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 29, 2007, 10:02:26 pm
what was that thing in the back of syris head?
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Post by: Slartibartfast on January 29, 2007, 10:07:21 pm
what was that thing in the back of syris head?
I missed it.   :-[  I'll have to watch the repeat on Friday.  :-\ 
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Post by: Hydromancerx on January 29, 2007, 10:11:25 pm
what was that thing in the back of syris head?

Well in the upcoming scenes its showed a guys arm with a watch. And Syler is the watch maker. I am guessing that Syler is Clair's real dad based on that.

Of course why would he want to kill her?

Hmm maybe i should think this through .... The invisible guy maybe? Or Peter's Brother? Bah I have no idea.
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 29, 2007, 10:18:30 pm
Nah, he can't be Clair's daddy, he was in to nice of a suit, and I would imagine by now Syris would be off the grid.

I missed it.   :-[  I'll have to watch the repeat on Friday.  :-\ 

You know you can watch the episode on the NBC by Wednesday maybe by Tuesday if your lucky.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on January 29, 2007, 10:21:24 pm
I missed it.   :-[  I'll have to watch the repeat on Friday.  :-\ 

You know you can watch the episode on the NBC by Wednesday maybe by Tuesday if your lucky.
Yes, but it's a big screen versus computer screen issue.
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Post by: Behumat on January 30, 2007, 10:25:36 am
what was that thing in the back of syris head?
I missed it.   :-[  I'll have to watch the repeat on Friday.  :-\ 

*SPOILERS*


The thing in the back of his head is basically a tube through which they were injecting drugs directly into his brain to keep him a docile vegetable. When he woke up, after faking his death, or maybe dying for real, he must have disconnected it from the IV, but he's still stuck with a big freaking plastic tube in his head. His supervillain name can be spigot man.
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Post by: Netherflare on January 30, 2007, 02:41:32 pm
Does anyone know if Sylar stole some type of power to revive himself or cheat death?

And Claires "real" mom can create fire?
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 30, 2007, 04:20:46 pm
Does anyone know if Sylar stole some type of power to revive himself or cheat death?

And Claires "real" mom can create fire?

1) I don't think so, but I'm sure there are some "Hero's" brains he's eaten that we don't know about.
2) Yes, that would explain why her hand is on fire.
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Post by: Neoadept on January 30, 2007, 05:01:06 pm
All I want to know is, what's with Hiros dad having goons?  Is he a Yakuza boss, and if so, why does the son of a Yakuza boss work in a cubicle?
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Post by: stuck on January 30, 2007, 07:41:47 pm
what was that thing in the back of syris head?
I missed it.   :-[  I'll have to watch the repeat on Friday.  :-\ 

*SPOILERS*


The thing in the back of his head is basically a tube through which they were injecting drugs directly into his brain to keep him a docile vegetable. When he woke up, after faking his death, or maybe dying for real, he must have disconnected it from the IV, but he's still stuck with a big freaking plastic tube in his head. His supervillain name can be spigot man.

Isn't it also possible that it prevents the superpower part of the brain from working? Very similar to how Claire had the stick in her skull and her super healing failed to activate. That could explain why the doctor wasn't killed more... exotically.  :P
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Post by: Inkling on January 30, 2007, 09:18:20 pm
I was thinking that Hiro's dad might be in the Yakuza, too.  Maybe Hiro didn't want anything to do with the family business.  But whatever Hiro's dad is doing there, I'm betting that he works for Linderman.

Another theory:  Who thinks that Claire's dad works for Linderman as well?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on January 30, 2007, 11:43:43 pm
I was thinking that Hiro's dad might be in the Yakuza, too.  Maybe Hiro didn't want anything to do with the family business.  But whatever Hiro's dad is doing there, I'm betting that he works for Linderman.

Another theory:  Who thinks that Claire's dad works for Linderman as well?

What if Linderman IS Clair's dad?  :o :o :o :o

Which would explain why we wanted to buy the paintings.
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Post by: DMB on January 31, 2007, 02:45:52 pm
I was thinking that Hiro's dad might be in the Yakuza, too.  Maybe Hiro didn't want anything to do with the family business.  But whatever Hiro's dad is doing there, I'm betting that he works for Linderman.

Another theory:  Who thinks that Claire's dad works for Linderman as well?
I read in an article that Hiro's dad just wanted to bring him back to Japan and probably wants him in the family business.
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Post by: Cobra on January 31, 2007, 07:51:36 pm
I'm not reading any of the topic to avoid spoilers but I saw the pilot for the aussie premire looks interesting.
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Post by: El_Buro on February 01, 2007, 11:28:47 pm
The premiere was...dull. Boring. I understood what was going on, but frankly, it wasn't very interesting. :-\

Why did that cheerleader think it was so bad that she was invincible? She says stuff like "But I'm a freak..." (not exactly that) and moans and bitches about it. You're invincible for god's sake! That's really, really cool! You can do and survive things other people can only dream of! But, no, she thinks she won't be popular anymore.
She frustrated the hell out of me. I spent most of the time thinking, "what the hell is wrong with you!? Aaargh!". >:(

The other characters were better, though, I'll admit. :)

All that said, I realize that that was only the premiere and does not necessarily reflect the quality of the entire series.
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Post by: emmet on February 02, 2007, 11:31:26 am
http://tv-links.co.uk/Heroes_links.html (http://tv-links.co.uk/Heroes_links.html)

All the episodes.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 02, 2007, 03:33:56 pm
I was thinking that Hiro's dad might be in the Yakuza, too.  Maybe Hiro didn't want anything to do with the family business.  But whatever Hiro's dad is doing there, I'm betting that he works for Linderman.

Another theory:  Who thinks that Claire's dad works for Linderman as well?

What if Linderman IS Clair's dad?  :o :o :o :o

Which would explain why we wanted to buy the paintings.
YELLOW.
I watched it on a friend's Tivo this morning.  When I saw the salmon colored shirt, gold watch, and wedding ring; I figured it was Nathan.   :o

But it probably will be Doctor Claw Linderman.  (Mob boss in a salmon colored shirt?)

Another good plot twist would have been to have her "adoptive father" also be her biological one.  That would have been crazy!
Does anyone know if Sylar stole some type of power to revive himself or cheat death?
I think he stopped his heart with his telekinesis.  He must have circulated his blood with it so he wouldn't have a heart beat. 
I still think he can't steal powers, but has MASTERED telekinesis and takes the brains as a hobby.
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Post by: Neoadept on February 02, 2007, 05:21:23 pm
But they said his DNA was messed up from the number of alterations he made, and I think he stole telekinesis from the first guy he killed.  I think his power is the ability to automatically understand any complex system, with a minor ability in altering his own genes.  He looks at the brain, understands the complexities behind it that allow for powers, and alters his DNA accordingly.  It makes sense, given he knew what was wrong with Mohinders dads watch basically from the sound it made.
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Post by: DarkDragon on February 02, 2007, 06:35:02 pm
Yeah, he can see "what makes you tick", basically he can absorb anyone's powers in a similar way to Peter except that he has to kill the person to absorb it and he can control it easily, maybe the abbility to simulate death comes from the fact he has killed so many people that he learned how death works.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 02, 2007, 11:01:58 pm
weren't peoples brains missing? If he just had to look at them he could just take it out, look at it and toss it in the garbage.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 02, 2007, 11:06:21 pm
Maybe his is a zombie! Thats how he can come back from the dead and wants to eat brains!! BRAINS!!!  :o
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Post by: Inkling on February 05, 2007, 07:07:41 pm
Ooh, good episode.  I won't say anything that would ruin it for the west coast people, but I'm really starting to like the invisible guy.  And one of our guesses is right.
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Post by: Netherflare on February 05, 2007, 07:25:02 pm
very nice episode

so claire has already met her uncle...
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Post by: DMB on February 05, 2007, 10:37:22 pm
Spoilers Nathan is the father? Geez, how many women has this guy slept with?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 05, 2007, 10:38:15 pm
Bah one of my guesses was right. But i would have never guessed it was him for sure!! Man their writers are great!!

Also do you think Hiro's dad or sister have super powers like Hiro? I wonder if his sister is super smart or somthing.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 05, 2007, 11:00:43 pm
it was alright, but next week looks like it will be good. More interactions between Heroes.
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Post by: Netherflare on February 06, 2007, 06:33:09 pm
maybe they are just all related, and that is how they all have superpowers.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 06, 2007, 07:50:19 pm
Does that mean that the little cyber-punk kid is even more "Special"?
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 06, 2007, 10:35:33 pm
Spoilers Nathan is the father? Geez, how many women has this guy slept with?
On that note: Does anyone else think Nikki/Jessica might be pregnant . . . with Nathan's child?
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Post by: Inkling on February 07, 2007, 07:02:36 am
Spoilers Nathan is the father? Geez, how many women has this guy slept with?
On that note: Does anyone else think Nikki/Jessica might be pregnant . . . with Nathan's child?
So... Nathan has the powers of flight and super-fertility?
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 07, 2007, 01:10:03 pm
Spoilers Nathan is the father? Geez, how many women has this guy slept with?
On that note: Does anyone else think Nikki/Jessica might be pregnant . . . with Nathan's child?

No I don't.
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Post by: Netherflare on February 08, 2007, 06:26:57 pm
Spoilers Nathan is the father? Geez, how many women has this guy slept with?
On that note: Does anyone else think Nikki/Jessica might be pregnant . . . with Nathan's child?

hmm, that would be something to think about. And i wouldnt be surprised if they threw in that little shindig!
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Post by: Inkling on February 12, 2007, 01:17:57 pm
The Australian Heroes thread got me thinking.  What kind of accent does the invisible guy have?  I assumed it was British, but it could be something else.
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Post by: Netherflare on February 12, 2007, 07:09:39 pm
Well, how did everyone else like this episode?

I rate it 7/10

Liked the killing :)
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Post by: Inkling on February 12, 2007, 07:38:36 pm
oh yes, everyone likes the killing.  You'd think the --
Oh Noes!! Spoilers for the West Coast Peoples!!!


--police would cut the psychic guy a break when they find a guy ripped in half.
Too bad Mr. Melty got killed by Sylar.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 12, 2007, 10:52:03 pm
I missed most of the first half, so the melty guy, all he could do was melt things?  I didn't think it was all that bad.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 13, 2007, 12:19:15 am
This was an ok episode... Hopefully next week will be better if my mind is not erased before then .. wait who are you?
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Post by: emmet on February 13, 2007, 01:03:23 pm
Great episode but -

1. How is schizophrenia a power?

2. Why was that woman who wanted the pink bag so familiar?
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Post by: Neoadept on February 13, 2007, 01:30:51 pm
1.  It's not, unless it comes with super strength, as per tearing a man in half.  Also, I think that Niki's power is super strength, and her sister could body hop.  How do I know it's not just a mental disorder?  Last I checked, you didn't get new tattoo's when an alternate personality took control.

2.  I have no idea.
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Post by: Inkling on February 13, 2007, 01:31:49 pm
The woman with the pink bag did seem familiar... Is she Nikki's sister?

And since Nikki/Jessica is going after the flying Petrelli, what do you think would happen if Peter comes in contact with her? Would he just get the super-strength, or would he go all schizo as well?
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Post by: emmet on February 13, 2007, 02:03:22 pm
Hm, I didn't notice the tatoo wasn't always there...
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 13, 2007, 02:38:50 pm
I don't know if any of you caught this but, it's two weeks (TV weeks not real weeks) until the election/peter blows up.
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Post by: DMB on February 13, 2007, 05:11:34 pm
The woman with the pink bag did seem familiar... Is she Nikki's sister?

And since Nikki/Jessica is going after the flying Petrelli, what do you think would happen if Peter comes in contact with her? Would he just get the super-strength, or would he go all schizo as well?
I do recognize her from movies and tv shows, dunno what part she has in this show.
Oh, and cool, less than 2 weeks until the bomb! ;D
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 14, 2007, 03:04:53 am
Hiro was on Jay Leno today and turned forward time with Jay. It was kinda lame. :(
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Post by: sgore on February 14, 2007, 05:44:42 am
Don't know why she looks so familliar (I thought so too). Apparently she played Violet's mom in the Jonny Depp version of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory so that may be it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missi_Pyle
Also, You know, The Las Vegas episodes with Hiro and Ando have apparently been crossovers between the show "Las Vegas" and "Heroes"
http://www.poobala.com/heroesandlasvegas.html
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Post by: Neoadept on February 19, 2007, 07:17:26 pm
West Coast Spoilers!

1.  Hiro finally got rid of Ando, I have mixed feelings about that, but it was necessary.  What do you think?

2.  It looks like Bennet is finally going to tell us something.  Any guesses on what it is?

3.  We no longer have to endure "someone flies, someone dies,"  both happened and I didn't expect that Simone would be the one to die.  How 'bout you guys, you expect it?

4.  Peter finally controls his powers, does he really still need help?

5.  Was that a Stan Lee cameo at the end when Hiro got on the bus?
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Post by: Inkling on February 19, 2007, 07:40:14 pm
Argh, you beat me to it, neoadept.
More West Coast Spoilers

1. I'm not sure if it's permanent or not.
2. It looks like that's going to be a lot of next week's show.  I think he works for Linderman.
3. I figured Peter would fly, but I thought Claire's mom would be the one to die.
   Peter and Isaac:  Well, we accidentally killed the woman we were fighting over.  This is sure awkward...
4. I'm guessing he still needs help, but he might have things under control for a little while.  I'm guessing we haven't seen the last of the invisible man, either.
5.  I think so.  Stan Lee works for Grayhound now?  Expect some words of advice from him in the future.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 19, 2007, 10:16:01 pm
West Coast Spoilers!

1.  Hiro finally got rid of Ando, I have mixed feelings about that, but it was necessary.  What do you think?

I think he'll come back, it's destiny!

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2.  It looks like Bennet is finally going to tell us something.  Any guesses on what it is?

he has powers?

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3.  We no longer have to endure "someone flies, someone dies,"  both happened and I didn't expect that Simone would be the one to die.  How 'bout you guys, you expect it?

I hate those whisper commercials so much, first time the did it it was fine, but now I want to stick a screw driver in my ear. Simone came out of no where, I guess she really wasn't that important.

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4.  Peter finally controls his powers, does he really still need help?

Man this guy is going to get way to uber powerful in over a couple seasons.

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5.  Was that a Stan Lee cameo at the end when Hiro got on the bus?

Yes that was Stan Lee, I hope he doesn't have any more lines. he's best with one or fewer lines. The exceptoin is Mall Rats.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 19, 2007, 10:38:13 pm
West Coast Spoilers!

1.  Hiro finally got rid of Ando, I have mixed feelings about that, but it was necessary.  What do you think?

2.  It looks like Bennet is finally going to tell us something.  Any guesses on what it is?

3.  We no longer have to endure "someone flies, someone dies,"  both happened and I didn't expect that Simone would be the one to die.  How 'bout you guys, you expect it?

4.  Peter finally controls his powers, does he really still need help?

5.  Was that a Stan Lee cameo at the end when Hiro got on the bus?
1.  It's bad.  It just frees Ando up to have his mind wiped so he can answer the phone.   ;)

2.  His origin story.   ::)  And Claire's.   :P 

3.  I did not expect Simone to die.  I was expecting Claire's mom.  She's still not out of the woods yet either.

4.  I think so. 

5. YES!  I actually dreamed Stan Lee would guest star, but as Peter and Nathan's grandfather in a flashback.  Oh, well.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 19, 2007, 10:42:45 pm
West Coast Spoilers!

1.  Hiro finally got rid of Ando, I have mixed feelings about that, but it was necessary.  What do you think?

Naw he will be is side kick again eventually.

2.  It looks like Bennet is finally going to tell us something.  Any guesses on what it is?

No

3.  We no longer have to endure "someone flies, someone dies,"  both happened and I didn't expect that Simone would be the one to die.  How 'bout you guys, you expect it?

Hazzah! And :( Perhaps this experance will bring them closer together ... or drive them appart.

4.  Peter finally controls his powers, does he really still need help?

Maybe

5.  Was that a Stan Lee cameo at the end when Hiro got on the bus?

Yep yep!  ;D
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Post by: DMB on February 20, 2007, 12:10:10 am
The only thing that gets me is how Sylar found that guy that melts stuff before Suresh did. ???
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 20, 2007, 12:58:12 am
The only thing that gets me is how Sylar found that guy that melts stuff before Suresh did. ???
Remember Sylar had the incomplete list that Mohinder's father had made.  Melty guy must have been on it.
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Post by: emmet on February 20, 2007, 01:54:24 pm
It would have been better if Sylar had speared Listening Lady (cheesy name, but what the hell), I mean, didn't he kill the telekinetic because he didn't want his power? And this woman was the first (other than Sylar) I heard who liked her powers.
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Post by: Neoadept on February 20, 2007, 02:32:13 pm
What about Niki's kid?  Micah seems to like his powers.

Who else thinks that Peter will either die or somehow lose a portion of his powers at the end of the season in some kind of final showdown with Sylar?  As it is he's just to powerful.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 20, 2007, 04:30:55 pm
What ever happened to Nikki's kid, Last I remember he stole a bunch of cash, Then Nikki came home, but we never saw the dad really deal with it?
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Post by: DMB on February 20, 2007, 05:56:44 pm
What ever happened to Nikki's kid, Last I remember he stole a bunch of cash, Then Nikki came home, but we never saw the dad really deal with it?
I think he used it to bail out Nikki. I'm not sure. I'm also under the impression that Hiro happened to be sitting on top of/near the sword in some luggage or baggage when he managed to reverse time.
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Post by: Neoadept on February 20, 2007, 06:03:43 pm
No, using a sword for time travel doesn't work with me, to odd and mystical in the shows context.  I think that the incident with memory girl may have been traumatic enough to cause him to erect a mental block on his powers, the sword is just an emotional crutch, used mainly because it shows him using it in the painting.

And you can't bail someone out if they're considered mentally unstable.  Linderman pulled strings until she was acquitted.  I think the money probably went into a trust fund or something, with a little off the top to pay the bills.
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Post by: stuck on February 25, 2007, 10:55:52 am
What about Niki's kid?  Micah seems to like his powers.

Who else thinks that Peter will either die or somehow lose a portion of his powers at the end of the season in some kind of final showdown with Sylar?  As it is he's just to powerful.

Way I see it, Peter can only have his powers taken away by the Hatian dude, since he can wipe his mind, and therefore his memories.

Plus, remember when future Hiro came and told him, "I'm not used to seeing you without that scar." The final showdown will be where he gets the scar, but doesn't die.
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Post by: emmet on February 26, 2007, 01:05:59 pm
Oh no sadzies! :o

That ending was very sad. :(
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Post by: Netherflare on February 26, 2007, 02:42:59 pm
maybe Peter will keep the powers that we gained and cant get anymore after he defeats Sylar. Or something like that.


No matter what, Peter would win because he just has to be near Sylar to gain all his powers and just use that on him.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 26, 2007, 10:16:21 pm
OMG OMG OMG!!! the preview for next week

SPOilers:

Hiro buddy's back, dead chick not dead? Hiro gets the sword!

Now to this weeks episode. 1st off Clair's dad is a stand up dude aways liked him, so I'm happy that there is a new villain to hate. That ending was good, I was getting teary eyed and stuff. Just when I think the show is going soft they hit one out of the park.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 26, 2007, 11:07:41 pm
Yeah that was great! though i thought it was funny they had a classic comic book "girls super hero's clothing falling to pieces while in battle" with Clair stopping mr. nuke guy.

(http://www.highlightzone.de/film/film_bilder/gen_13.jpg)
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Post by: Inkling on February 27, 2007, 06:04:29 am
That was just an excuse for you to post that picture, wasn't it? 

I like how they threw in little Hiro in the flashback.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 27, 2007, 07:21:47 am
So . . . is Hiro's dad his real dad and if so, was he a plain or special agent?

Also, who thinks somebody got cancer after all that?
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Post by: PHI-1618 on February 27, 2007, 12:47:27 pm
So . . . is Hiro's dad his real dad and if so, was he a plain or special agent?

I think he's one of the guys behind the organization that Bennett works for. As for whether he's Hiro's actual father or not, I don't know.

And yes, someone will likely get cancer from all that heat. Parkman in particular.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 27, 2007, 01:43:49 pm
well it is TV so if they get cancer it will go away after a little bit. Seeing little Hiro made me smile, I also liked getting the down low on the invisible man, I wonder if we will ever find out about the "mutant" that he tried protecting?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 27, 2007, 04:20:55 pm
well it is TV so if they get cancer it will go away after a little bit. Seeing little Hiro made me smile, I also liked getting the down low on the invisible man, I wonder if we will ever find out about the "mutant" that he tried protecting?

It was Wolverine .... oh wait, wrong comic universe. ;)
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Post by: Netherflare on February 27, 2007, 04:34:16 pm
so is Hero like 22? Because he was like 6 when he was playing the video game and Claire was only a baby, and now like 15 years later she is how she is now, but Hiro is very young? I thought he was like in his 30's!
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 27, 2007, 07:08:50 pm
22 seems about right to me.
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Post by: DMB on February 27, 2007, 11:04:04 pm
I still have a bunch of questions even after they said most of them would be told. Why didn't claude die? Looked like he got shot up pretty bad and the fall must've been deep, not sure how he survived it even if he is invisible. What ever happened to the woman with "internet" powers? It seems a bit clear how Claire will save the world if she tranquilized Peter or something if she can get close to him. :-\
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 27, 2007, 11:18:19 pm
so is Hero like 22? Because he was like 6 when he was playing the video game and Claire was only a baby, and now like 15 years later she is how she is now, but Hiro is very young? I thought he was like in his 30's!
Hiro is 23.  Masi Oka is 32.  Strange isn't it.

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I still have a bunch of questions even after they said most of them would be told. Why didn't claude die? Looked like he got shot up pretty bad and the fall must've been deep, not sure how he survived it even if he is invisible. What ever happened to the woman with "internet" powers? It seems a bit clear how Claire will save the world if she tranquilized Peter or something if she can get close to him. :-\
I have no idea why Claude did not die, but I don't think he fell off, he just made it look that he was going to while turning invisible.  The three bullets in him are another matter.

Wasn't that her in the lab when they were examing Parkman?  I'll have to double check.

That would be sort of a cop out and anticlimactic.

Also, my theory, for the record: Jackie was a cheerleader.  She was not saved.  The world is screwed.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 28, 2007, 01:52:27 am
http://heroeswiki.com/Hiro
Hiro is 24. :D

Just like me. Go Hiro!  ;D
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Post by: Slartibartfast on February 28, 2007, 01:59:53 am
http://heroeswiki.com/Hiro
Hiro is 24. :D

Just like me. Go Hiro!  ;D
Why does the normal wiki disagree with the Heroes wiki?  That implies there's not an official answer.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on February 28, 2007, 03:01:20 am
http://heroeswiki.com/Hiro
Hiro is 24. :D

Just like me. Go Hiro!  ;D
Why does the normal wiki disagree with the Heroes wiki?  That implies there's not an official answer.

Because hero wiki pays attention more, just like Spore wiki pays attention more then spore on wikipedia. ;)
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Post by: Inkling on February 28, 2007, 07:08:58 am
Why didn't claude die? Looked like he got shot up pretty bad and the fall must've been deep, not sure how he survived it even if he is invisible.

Maybe the person he was hiding can heal people.  Whatever happened, I'm sure he had some help in surviving.  Being invisible doesn't do you much good if you've been shot three times on a bridge in the middle of nowhere.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on February 28, 2007, 09:50:51 am
If you recall, Bennett told the Haitian how to shoot him to ensure it wasn't lethal, so Bennett likely shot Claude in places where he knew he'd have a chance to survive. I don't think Claude's being alive was accidental; I just think Bennett's hands were tied when he went after him later on. He had to.
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Post by: ilikesanta on February 28, 2007, 08:15:40 pm
What ever happened to the woman with "internet" powers? It seems a bit clear how

She's come back, there was a four part comic all about her at the NBC web site (http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/). Did you know she use to work for Clair's dad? to answer Slartibartfast"s question if that was her at the lab I wouldn't think so because they had a falling out at the end and she wants vengeance. She didn't have her power until after she got tested with.
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Post by: T-BirD on March 04, 2007, 12:02:46 am
Nothing at all against the show - since I haven't watched it - but I wish it would die....for one simple reason - I'm really, really, REALLY tired of the commercials which are being run EVERY SINGLE COMMERCIAL BREAK on TV2 here in Hungary. If I hear the asian guy yell "YATTAaaaa!" in Times Square one more time.........


Other than that, glad everyone's enjoying it  :D
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Post by: Neoadept on March 04, 2007, 07:23:22 am
Oh yeah, I hate those commercials.  Luckily I only have to deal with them on Thursday when I watch Scrubs, which is the only other show I watch on NBC.
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Post by: Neoadept on March 05, 2007, 07:01:39 pm
West Coast Spoilers

1.  Ando's back!  And he actually did something useful!

2.  The Petreli's have a very interesting family tree.  Is this proof that the Hero gene is dominant?  Also, does Mrs. Petreli have the gift of languages? 

3.  Where did wireless go?  I demand to know!

4.  Who's this new girl, with the light bendy powers?

5.  Mohinder takes down Sylar, Sylar takes down Peter, how many times can this table be turned?

6.  Benet gets caught, Linderman revealed, Nathan gets an offer.

7.  Hiro's back in time travel action.

8.  Because I don't like prime numbers.
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Post by: Inkling on March 05, 2007, 07:10:31 pm
NOOOOO!! Why did they have to go on another break?!?
And I think we may have just seen Peter get the scar Future Hiro was talking about.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on March 05, 2007, 07:15:07 pm
APRIL 23RD?!

Man, it's on like Donkey Kong.

West Coast Spoilers
2.  The Petreli's have a very interesting family tree.  Is this proof that the Hero gene is dominant?  Also, does Mrs. Petreli have the gift of languages? 

4.  Who's this new girl, with the light bendy powers?
Mohinder said there were 4 genes.  I think you'd need a complete set.  Knowing French doesn't count as a super power.

There called illusions.  Hint: Think Mystique, but different!  They really do need to stop ripping off the X-men.

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NOOOOO!! Why did they have to go on another break?!?
And I think we may have just seen Peter get the scar Future Hiro was talking about.
Unless Peter starts thinking happy thoughts about Claire, I think that's the correct assumption.
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Post by: Netherflare on March 05, 2007, 07:18:36 pm
for some reason, this episode really made me mad!

That girl who can bend light/morf is too powerful imo and should be killed.

And Peter can definently take down Sylar just then, he already has all his powers. Just read his mind to see what his next move would be and then counter it!
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Post by: Slartibartfast on March 05, 2007, 09:38:51 pm
That girl who can bend light/morf is too powerful imo and should be killed.
I realized her power must be some form of hypnosis/suggestion or her voice would stay the same.
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 06, 2007, 12:56:01 am
Mass hypnosis? hmm maybe. So who else thinks Mr. Linderman has some sort of powers? What's up with Mrs. Petreli knowing everything, is she boning Linderman? Good episode if you ask me. It will be interesting to see Peter and Syris have go at each other. Just to clarify, Did painter man paint himself with no brain? Also what is he going to to with dead chicks body?
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Post by: Slartibartfast on March 06, 2007, 03:57:40 am
Mass hypnosis? hmm maybe. So who else thinks Mr. Linderman has some sort of powers? What's up with Mrs. Petreli knowing everything, is she boning Linderman? Good episode if you ask me. It will be interesting to see Peter and Syris have go at each other. Just to clarify, Did painter man paint himself with no brain? Also what is he going to to with dead chicks body?
Speculation of the worst sort: Linderman has the same power as Peter and Sylar (who have the SAME power if you were paying attention.  It's just the way they remember people that's different.), because he's the father of both.   :o

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Did painter man paint himself with no brain?
Yes, it appears that way.

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Also what is he going to to with dead chicks body?
I assume Mr. Bennet sent a clean up team like he said he was going to do.
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: Netherflare on March 06, 2007, 01:09:53 pm
how can Peter and Sylar be brothers? Wouldnt Nathan be a brother too?
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Post by: DMB on March 06, 2007, 10:09:56 pm
Wow, if that's true, the Petrellis do have a weird family tree. I'm still a bit mad about Hiro still traveling to the wrong time, I thought with the sword, he would have complete control. Also, whatever happened to the dinosaur he was suppose to fight? Huh, 23 really is a magic number.
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 06, 2007, 11:39:39 pm
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novel_023.shtml

speaking of 23 you should all read the 23 chapter of the comic on the NBC website, Wireless is involved. Oh in case you weren't paying attention Hiro faced the dinosaur in the museum when he grabbed the fake sword, of course it was a fake dinosaur...
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Post by: Hydromancerx on March 07, 2007, 06:02:47 am
Why is the wait between episodes this time so LOOONG!?! :(
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Post by: Inkling on March 07, 2007, 07:55:03 am
Because NBC likes to torment us.

For some reason, Ando in a cop uniform makes me think of the second Terminator movie.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on March 07, 2007, 09:35:50 am
Mass hypnosis? hmm maybe. So who else thinks Mr. Linderman has some sort of powers? What's up with Mrs. Petreli knowing everything, is she boning Linderman? Good episode if you ask me. It will be interesting to see Peter and Syris have go at each other. Just to clarify, Did painter man paint himself with no brain? Also what is he going to to with dead chicks body?
Speculation of the worst sort: Linderman has the same power as Peter and Sylar (who have the SAME power if you were paying attention.  It's just the way they remember people that's different.), because he's the father of both.   :o

Peter and Sylar's powers are different. Sylar's power is some sort of super-analysis that allows him to figure out how to take someone's power and make it one of his own. There was a scene in his origin story that showed someone giving him a watch to fix and he looked at it for less than a second and could diagnose what was wrong without doing anything to it. Also: They've hinted at it with the ticking noise that plays sometimes whenever he's on the screen. For example, when he was able to break from being doped while being held by Bennett and Co. I can't say for absolutely certain that it's true, but I am fairly certain that he and Peter have different powers: It's just that they exhibit in similar ways by taking others' abilities.

That's just a guess though.

Also, regarding Peter's scar: I don't think he'll have one. I think Future Hiro coming to the past and leading Peter to Claire provided him with the means to heal himself; in Future Hiro's original past, Peter likely faced off with Sylar without the power to heal himself and was forever scarred because of it. There's no reason why Claire's power wouldn't get rid of the scar. Again, just a guess.
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Post by: Netherflare on March 07, 2007, 05:48:29 pm
maybe Sylars power was just so strong on Peter that all it could do was make a scar

Or

Maybe Sylar took some of Peters regenerative powers in the next episode so that he cant fully heal.
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Post by: PHI-1618 on March 08, 2007, 08:41:38 am
maybe Sylars power was just so strong on Peter that all it could do was make a scar

Or

Maybe Sylar took some of Peters regenerative powers in the next episode so that he cant fully heal.

He'd have to kill Peter to get his power, and I don't think that transfer of power from one person to the other would include all of Peter's other powers. Just the ability to gain powers by being around folks. In other words, he wouldn't be able to fly or turn invisible or anything; he'd just have the capacity to.
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Post by: Netherflare on March 08, 2007, 06:43:08 pm
maybe Sylars power was just so strong on Peter that all it could do was make a scar

Or

Maybe Sylar took some of Peters regenerative powers in the next episode so that he cant fully heal.

He'd have to kill Peter to get his power, and I don't think that transfer of power from one person to the other would include all of Peter's other powers. Just the ability to gain powers by being around folks. In other words, he wouldn't be able to fly or turn invisible or anything; he'd just have the capacity to.

Maybe that is exactly what he did. He took the power for him to gain other powers by being around them. But Peter would still have the powers to regenerate, mind read, fly, invisible, clear ppls thoughts, paint the future and time travel
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Post by: 7 who ate 9 on March 08, 2007, 07:46:51 pm
Sylar has no powers, he literal kills peoples and puts parts of their mind into his.
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 08, 2007, 09:39:45 pm
Sylar has no powers, he literal kills peoples and puts parts of their mind into his.

No syler's original power was that he could see how things work, or know how to fix things
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Post by: DevilMachine on March 13, 2007, 05:19:52 pm
...and then eat their brains to gain their powers.

Not sure if this has been covered or not, but do you think Peter & Nathan's mother has powers too?
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Post by: DMB on March 13, 2007, 11:17:48 pm
Nah, she probably just learned French. Anyways, http://waffleyahoo.ytmnd.com/ (http://waffleyahoo.ytmnd.com/) Did I win?
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Post by: DMB on March 17, 2007, 09:54:56 pm
I'm a bit bummed that there are only 5 episodes left after the break for the year. Some more info on Heroes next episode:http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9944 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9944) Spoilers:I  know for sure that Peter will use telekineses to stop Sylar before he completely tears Peter's head.
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 18, 2007, 01:06:20 pm
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novel_024.shtml

I'm beginning to wonder if Wireless is just going to be in the comics and not in the show?
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Post by: sgore on March 18, 2007, 01:58:56 pm
She made that appearance at the opening of one episode...
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Post by: Neoadept on March 18, 2007, 02:29:28 pm
And then disappeared, even though she was with Mat and Ted at the end of the episode before the flashback one.  It's almost like future Hiro tore her out of the time-line or something, and that's probably how they'll explain it.  Probably an issue with the actress.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on March 19, 2007, 03:13:55 am
I wondered where she went.
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Post by: Notorious B.O.B on March 20, 2007, 12:59:35 am
Sylar has no powers, he literal kills peoples and puts parts of their mind into his.

No syler's original power was that he could see how things work, or know how to fix things

I just thought his original power was to take on the powers of others through some kind of direct absorption method (i.e. removing and eating his brain or something), hence 'parasite', whereas Peter is a symbiote or a mimic of sorts: he copies the powers of others when he is around others without harming them.

That whole seeing how things work power is interesting, and would kind of make sense:  It would allow him to see how to take the powers of others.  Then again, that means that anyone could do that, if they learned how. 


Secondly, this may have been said before (sorry if it has) but did anyone notice how, in the last few episodes, Peter has learned to not only control the usage of the powers he mimics, but is able to re-use them.  Before it seemed like he could only use them once and then would have to re-absorb them later.

I'm a bit bummed that there are only 5 episodes left after the break for the year. Some more info on Heroes next episode:http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9944 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=9944) Spoilers:I  know for sure that Peter will use telekineses to stop Sylar before he completely tears Peter's head.

Yeah, I'm kind of bummed too.  How can they resolve some of these storylines.

As for that article you posted DMB: Mild Spoiler(maybe): Huh.  First the x-men, now the Watchmen.  What other comics will they rip-off?  I wonder if Linderman has the power of super-intelligence, like Ozymandias?
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Post by: Netherflare on March 20, 2007, 08:13:33 pm

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Yeah, I'm kind of bummed too.  How can they resolve some of these storylines.

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that, my friend, is what season 2 (if there is one) will have ;D ;D
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 21, 2007, 01:14:36 am
Pfff there will be a season 2.
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Post by: Notorious B.O.B on March 21, 2007, 08:06:06 am
Yeah, but I don't wanna wait!

Plus, I'm mainly talking about the destruction of NYC.  That IS happening by the end of the season, and I don't see how anybody could Stop it from happening by now.
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Post by: Netherflare on March 22, 2007, 04:27:54 am
maybe with all their powers, they will rebuild it!
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Post by: ilikesanta on March 23, 2007, 07:53:11 pm
maybe with all their powers, they will rebuild it!
Hiro could take the entire city of NY with him into the future and and put it back after the bomb goes off.
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Post by: ilikesanta on April 13, 2007, 01:51:24 pm
I double post for the most... yay

any way I was watching ye old boob tube and I saw a promo for Heros
Spoilers?


and I saw the return of Future Hiro! talking to present Hiro! Also the clip made it look like Isac will try and let his brain be eaten. ?? 10 more days!

****EDIT**** I was reading up on the comics at NBC and there are some juicy tid-bits in there about our man Linderman Not only did he fight in Viet Nam along side Peter's dad but Linderman has Powers. His power....... Healing others
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 15, 2007, 05:37:42 am
i heard on the radio recently that people can win tickets to watch the season finally of Heroes being taped as well as go back stage and meet the cast. Sound like a cool prize to me :D
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Post by: Slartibartfast on April 23, 2007, 01:21:48 am
TONIGHT!  ;D
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Post by: DMB on April 23, 2007, 04:36:38 pm
Yes, yes. I think it's all safe to say : LIEK ZOMG HEROES RETURNS !!! YA TAA!
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Post by: Netherflare on April 23, 2007, 06:55:59 pm
so, i am going to buy this episode on Itunes because i came late and didnt want to miss anything, but how was tonights returns?
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Post by: DMB on April 23, 2007, 07:37:35 pm
It's in about an hour and 30 min for me. You could just watch the epis. on tv li- oh right. No ads. :P
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Post by: Inkling on April 23, 2007, 09:26:24 pm
It was a really good episode, Netherflare, though I was expecting-
Invisible Spoilers, because I hate tiny font:
More of a fight between Peter and Sylar.  I guess they're saving that for another episode.  And I'm fairly sure that Mamma Petrelli has powers of her own and was one of the original group with Linderman.  I can't wait to see what they are.  Speaking of Linderman, it's interesting to have a guy with healing powers as the bad guy manipulating everything behind the scenes.  Too bad Issac died, but seeing Sylar's paintings of the future should be very interesting.   Next week's possible future episode looks like it'll be good, too.

Now, I've never been much of a comic book reader, but I've read a lot of summaries and stuff, and I'm seeing a lot of similarities.
Bomb that kills half of New York, creating a new world order = The Watchmen?
Future Hiro, from a possible future gone wrong = Trunks? (I know, not a comic book)
Possibly evil super-President = Lex Luthor?
Title: Re: Heroes on NBC --- Warning: Spoilers Abound!
Post by: ilikesanta on April 23, 2007, 10:18:43 pm
More ivisible Spoilers

 Yeah that was a good episode. Inkling you coment on Peter's mom being in the original group. If you read the comics on NBC, (does anyone else read those?) we know the Linderman starts the group with Papa Petrelli, i'm sure he dosne't have/had powers so it would likely that mama does, unless she knocked boots with linderman twice. Who knew that linderman was controlling the super secret government hero tracking program? It's nice seeing all the peices finally fall together.

Next episode should be entertaining
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 24, 2007, 01:15:17 am
This was great I so missed Heroes. I cannot wait for next week!!

Oh and as for a previous group of super heros it really reminds of Team 7. Team 7 was officially the seventh incarnation of a group of military specialists gathered from various government forces. This was set in the 1970's

Team 7
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_7

Then they had Gen 13 which was in the 1990's and were the childern of Alex Fairchild, Philip Chang and John Lynch who were part of Team 7. This really reminds me of how they are doing lineages in Heroes. Infact all their powers were done in the same Xmen like way, just like Hero's has it.

Gen 13
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen%C2%B9%C2%B3

All i can say is i would not be surprised if they took dome of best ideas from all the diffrent comics out there to make heroes.

I you are wondering what powers gen 13 had here they are...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a3/GEN132006Cvr.jpg/417px-GEN132006Cvr.jpg)

Caitlin Fairchild: Once an ordinary girl, Caitlin's muscles spontaneously increased in density, granting her superhuman strength, agility, speed, and endurance. The manifestation of her "Gen-active" status caused her body mass to increase, shredding her clothing at the time. Fairchild is by far the most intelligent of the group.

Bobby "Burnout" Lane: Son of John Lynch (Gen¹³'s mentor), Bobby manifested the ability to generate and manipulate high-energy coherent plasma, which ignites on exposure to oxygen. He later developed the ability to fly, as well as certain psionic abilities.

Roxanne "Freefall" Spaulding: "Roxy" is the youngest Gen-active teen, with the ability to control the effects of gravity on herself and on others. She can nullify gravity (and float) or multiply it (making objects ultraheavy). It is also suggested by some other characters, that if she thought about it and used her powers to their fullest advantage she could manipulate space time as this is related to gravity. She has a crush on Grunge and is jealous of Fairchild's physique. Keeps Queelocke as a "pet". It was later revealed that Spaulding and Fairchild were half-sisters, both the daughters of Alex Fairchild from Team 7.

Sarah Rainmaker: Rainmaker can influence local weather systems, manipulating air currents to grant herself flight and direct water with a gesture. Amplifier bands on her wrists augment her ability to project lightning. Rainmaker is Apache, and bisexual. She is Stephen Callahan's daughter, and Threshold and Bliss's half sister.

Percival Edmund "Grunge" Chang: Able to mimic the molecular structure of any material he touches (and partially bestow this effect on others), Grunge is a surf rat who enjoys sleeping in. He possesses brown belts in five martial arts styles, and has few if any redeeming characteristics - though he does possess a photographic memory that allowed him to take the same classes as Fairchild does (much to her surprise) during the period that the team went to college. His father is Team 7 member Phillip Chang.

it makes me wonder what other powers they will have. They already covered the fire powers, levitation powers and super strength. But who will have electric power or absorbing materials you touch? Now those would be cool in heroes.
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Post by: Netherflare on April 24, 2007, 05:10:22 pm
And since Jonathan knows that Linderman can heal, why doesnt he ask Linderman to heal his wife so she can walk again?
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Post by: DMB on April 24, 2007, 05:22:47 pm
Great episode yesterday though I do have a few questions:
 The whole Peter being able to heal when his head was being cut open: Couldn't Claire have done that if she was caught by Sylar? And Future Hiro meeting Present Hiro, wouldn't that cause a tear in the space/time continuum according to most theories of time traveling? It appears that Linderman was the special that Claude was hiding and had probably healed him. Can't wait to see what the next episode! Also, checked info on next episode and found that, Hiro and Ando find that the "Specials" are called terrorists in the future. Off topic question: Wouldn't Peter let Isacc shoot him since he can regenerate so Simone wouldn't get shot?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 25, 2007, 05:28:02 am
And since Jonathan knows that Linderman can heal, why doesnt he ask Linderman to heal his wife so she can walk again?

Because he would have to do something in return for him.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 28, 2007, 04:22:33 pm
Anyone See the Heroes cast on Larry King Live last night? I don't watch Larry King, but for this I decided to. hey had some cool spoilers. I can't wait for next the episode!!
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Post by: Inkling on April 28, 2007, 08:52:26 pm
I thought about watching, but I either had to study or simply forgot.  What were the spoilers?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 30, 2007, 02:12:46 am
I thought about watching, but I either had to study or simply forgot.  What were the spoilers?

I won't say much other than a few random words ....

Pole Dance, Double Hiro, Brown Hair and "I'm not dead yet!"
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Post by: Netherflare on April 30, 2007, 09:16:53 pm
It was a good episode. Really got me thinking and trying to put all the pieces together from the previous episodes.


 Only 3 more left! Woot!
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 30, 2007, 11:16:33 pm
So now we know why Hiro needs a sword! ;)
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Post by: ilikesanta on April 30, 2007, 11:46:22 pm
Wow that was a great Episode! I can't wait for this show comes out on DVD. A few weeks ago the Sci-Fi channel had a marathon of Heros, it was wonderful.
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Post by: Daxx on May 01, 2007, 07:47:34 am
My God. I counted the times my jaw literally just hung open during that episode - three:

Spoilers:
Nathan turning out to be Sylar
Mohinder killing the Haitian
Peter vs Sylar, Fire vs Ice

I seriously can't wait to see the next one. I think that was perhaps the best hour of television I have ever watched.
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Post by: Person21 on May 01, 2007, 11:56:44 am
That was the best episode ever!!!!  :D


I just hope they can do it again!  :-\
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Post by: emmet on May 01, 2007, 01:47:15 pm
That. Was. Amazing.
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Post by: Inkling on May 01, 2007, 02:30:17 pm
That was very good.  There were just two things that bugged me, though:
Hiro: Ando, there's something I must tell you- Hiro gets tasered.
Hiro: Don't worry, I'll teleport you back to the past myself- Hiro gets shot.
Was that a bit predictable to anyone else?
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Post by: sgore on May 01, 2007, 06:53:29 pm
I have a question:
Peter's fire like power's most likely came from Ted, but where did Sylar's Ice power's come from?
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Post by: Daxx on May 01, 2007, 07:06:05 pm
I have a question:
Peter's fire like power's most likely came from Ted, but where did Sylar's Ice power's come from?

It's five years in the future. Who knows? He probably stole them.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 01, 2007, 10:34:03 pm
I have a question:
Peter's fire like power's most likely came from Ted, but where did Sylar's Ice power's come from?
Remember the victim in the second episode that was frozen solid?  That's my guess.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 02, 2007, 12:28:03 am
Wow I can't remember that far back but if that's true good call man.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 02, 2007, 04:08:39 am
Then again, since Peter was near Sylar, he too has the ice power
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Post by: Daxx on May 02, 2007, 04:46:23 am
I always considered that Sylar's only advantage over Peter was that he knew his powers, practiced them and found out all their quirks almost obsessively. Peter gets the benefit of every single one of Sylar's powers as well as any others, but hasn't used most of the ones he's not seen before.

Ted's power, especially, seems like it's pretty difficult to control. Whether it's just him being impatient or whatever, it still seems like it needs training to be used successfully. Peter doesn't yet have that power in our timeline, does he? If Sylar kills Ted and takes his power, and then Peter mimics him whilst they're fighting, the potential for Peter to accidentally go nuclear is clear.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 02, 2007, 03:08:45 pm
For some reason i thought that new little girl that could be the only one to stop Sylar has the power to create force fields. If that is true, i think i know how NY will be saved...  ::)
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Post by: Inkling on May 02, 2007, 03:36:52 pm
I'm thinking that her powers will be more unusual than just force fields.
Wild speculation: she draws pictures of people, and whatever she draws happens to them.  did anyone else notice the big red spot on Sylar's forehead?
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 03, 2007, 10:39:26 pm
When was there a spot on his forehead?
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Post by: Inkling on May 04, 2007, 09:47:40 am
It was in the preview for the next episode.  Then again, I could've been seeing things.
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 05, 2007, 09:52:37 am
That last episode was really freaking awesome. The whole thing was just pure awesomeness.

Spoilers below:

One thing that makes me wonder is the scar on Peter's face. Why would a man who can't die and can heal anything have a scar? Something makes me think that it isn't just something the writers overlooked and could have some significance on the story.
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Post by: DMB on May 05, 2007, 03:59:47 pm
That last episode was really freaking awesome. The whole thing was just pure awesomeness.

Spoilers below:

One thing that makes me wonder is the scar on Peter's face. Why would a man who can't die and can heal anything have a scar? Something makes me think that it isn't just something the writers overlooked and could have some significance on the story.
I think it's because Peter never got Claire's power in that alternate timeline. Future hiro did say he tried to stab Sylar but regenerated.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 05, 2007, 06:29:25 pm
But Clair was alive! Maybe he got Pete and Sylar confused??
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Post by: DMB on May 05, 2007, 09:58:23 pm
Wait a minute... According to wikipedia :"In the original timeline, Hiro had stabbed him before the explosion, but Sylar had already succeeded in killing Claire Bennet and absorbing her regenerative powers, and survived to trigger the explosion. However, this timeline was altered and did not actually occur, as Hiro had visited Peter Petrelli with the message "save the cheerleader, save the world" and, consequently, Sylar was denied the ability of spontaneous regeneration. Nonetheless, the explosion did occur and, in reality, Peter was the cause of the blast in the alternative timeline."
Problem solved. ;)
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 06, 2007, 06:31:39 am
So Peter did have regeneration yet still had the scar.
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Post by: Daxx on May 06, 2007, 07:49:47 am
So Peter did have regeneration yet still had the scar.

No. The only way he could get regeneration would be to take it from Sylar. And he may not have been able to do that.
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 06, 2007, 08:45:52 am
So Peter did have regeneration yet still had the scar.

No. The only way he could get regeneration would be to take it from Sylar. And he may not have been able to do that.
What are you talking about? In the future dimension... thing he still saved Clair and he still got her power.
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Post by: Daxx on May 06, 2007, 09:42:46 am
What are you talking about? In the future dimension... thing he still saved Clair and he still got her power.

Which future are we talking about?
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 06, 2007, 10:21:19 am
What are you talking about? In the future dimension... thing he still saved Clair and he still got her power.

Which future are we talking about?
The one that Hiro and Ando transported to where the bomb went off and everything and they meet up with future Hiro. What other future is there?
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Post by: Daxx on May 06, 2007, 10:34:50 am
I was thinking of the future where Hiro hasn't yet told Peter about Claire. Never mind, the Heroes timeline isn't exactly entirely self-consistent anyway.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 07, 2007, 07:05:43 pm
so the girl can find where people are!
It was a good episode. 2 more left! Oh No! At this point, i have no clue who is going to blow up New York
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 07, 2007, 07:14:10 pm
so the girl can find where people are!
It was a good episode. 2 more left! Oh No! At this point, i have no clue who is going to blow up New York
Well, if we look at the future, it will be Peter unless Hiro and Ando change something (i.e. killing Sylar). Of course, even the little they've done so far could be enough to change the course of the future
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Post by: Inkling on May 07, 2007, 09:15:13 pm
Yes, that was a good episode.
Obligatory Spoilers:
Sylar was messed up enough before, but now that he accidentally killed his mom with a pair of scissors...  Things are going to get ugly.
Wild Speculation:
Does anyone think that they might just go ahead and let New York get blown up?  Even though it's the basis of the whole show, I don't think many people would be expecting it.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 08, 2007, 02:46:53 am
Ok time for my prediction!

Since Isaac's comic book never lies, Hiro will indeed kill Sylar, but not before Micah repairs his broken sword!!
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Post by: DMB on May 08, 2007, 04:51:52 pm
Ok time for my prediction!

Since Isaac's comic book never lies, Hiro will indeed kill Sylar, but not before Micah repairs his broken sword!!

Spoilers: I thought Micah could only manipulate machinery. My dad made a good observation that what Hiro and Ando see in the comic, he stabs a bearded Sylar yet Sylar is shown shaving...My dad's theory is that Sylar will kill the woman who can take the form of anyone, change into peter(for whatever reason) and blow up. Anyways, writing on Sylar's motivation to blow up NYC is genius.
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Post by: Person21 on May 09, 2007, 09:02:50 am
Or maybe New York was never going to blow up. That woman said "I can make you see anything I want, so maybe this whole thing is her playing a big joke on everyone.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 09, 2007, 06:13:54 pm
Or maybe New York was never going to blow up. That woman said "I can make you see anything I want, so maybe this whole thing is her playing a big joke on everyone.

if that happens, i will shoot the directors.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 09, 2007, 08:10:50 pm
What ever happend to the girl who could control computers? Was she actually the girl who can change the appearances of everything? Or did she get killed and i forgot?
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Post by: Inkling on May 09, 2007, 08:49:41 pm
I don't know what happened to her.  I think she was mainly in the online comic books graphic novels, excuse me.  Maybe she'll reappear in the last episodes, probably with Micah, since they have similar powers.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 09, 2007, 10:22:05 pm
People who can explode:
Ted.
Sylar.
Peter.

What I always figured was going to happen was Ted was going to be going nuclear and Peter would have to kill him.  The problem with that is the way Peter's power works.  He has to think about a person to use their power.  If Peter killed Ted he probably couldn't stop thinking about him, hence a nuclear explosion anyway. 

Remember Future Hiro's prophecy is no longer valid.   He was under the impression that Sylar exploded, which means he didn't know that it was actually Peter.
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Post by: MetallicDragon on May 10, 2007, 07:29:48 pm

I finally finished watching all 21 episodes so far! Woo!

People who can explode:
Ted.
Sylar.
Peter.

What I always figured was going to happen was Ted was going to be going nuclear and Peter would have to kill him.  The problem with that is the way Peter's power works.  He has to think about a person to use their power.  If Peter killed Ted he probably couldn't stop thinking about him, hence a nuclear explosion anyway. 

Remember Future Hiro's prophecy is no longer valid.   He was under the impression that Sylar exploded, which means he didn't know that it was actually Peter.




My theory is that, like in the comic we've seen glimpses of, where sylar is being stabbified, "Sylar" DOES get stabbed, but it is actually Peter posing as Sylar in order to get himself killed and stop the explosion. Although, your theory sounds good too. I hope it's none of these and something we didn't expect, though.

Can't wait till the next episode!
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Post by: Netherflare on May 10, 2007, 08:21:21 pm
i just realized that the mother of sylar was the girl from Little Shop of Horrors as Audrey! haha
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 11, 2007, 10:45:45 am
For a minute there I actually felt sorry for Sylar. Then he went back to his old self and decided to start killing people.
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Post by: emmet on May 11, 2007, 02:14:39 pm
Wikipedia tells me the last episode will be a 2 hour special!
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 11, 2007, 03:53:21 pm
Wikipedia tells me the last episode will be a 2 hour special!

(drools)
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 11, 2007, 11:54:28 pm
Quick reality check folks:
Wikipedia tells me the last episode will be a 2 hour special!
I want to believe, but I'll wait for a better source.
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Post by: Inkling on May 14, 2007, 05:31:35 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/14/tv.newseason.ap/index.html
Before we all start talking about tonight's episode, here's news that there will be a second season of Heroes in the fall.  And apparently we don't have to worry about the long breaks since there will be a series spinoff, "Heroes:Origins."  Also, there's news about some other shows, blah blah blah.

So, one season and Heroes already has a spinoff?
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Post by: Netherflare on May 14, 2007, 05:46:15 pm
hmm, i dont like this voting thing  :-\

Will it be played during the summer?

And lets make a deal, if we vote, lets all vote for the same person so that way we are all happy and we know we tried doing something, haha  ;D
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Post by: Netherflare on May 14, 2007, 07:08:09 pm
wow, very good. ONE MORE EPISODE!

So now everyone is in New York, except Simone (dead) and Isaac (dead) from that dream that Peter had.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 14, 2007, 10:10:48 pm
That was a great episode but i have a few things to discuss.

1. What was Papa Petrioli's power?

2. What's Papa Nakumora's power?

3. Do Nathan's 2 sons have powers too?

4. If Mohinder's sister had a power does he too? And what was his mom or dad's power?

5. Since Peter fought Sylar doe he gain all the powers Sylar gained? Or they just learned and he cannot absorb them? IF that is true could Peter cut open peoples heads as well and gain powers Sylar's way?
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 14, 2007, 11:22:22 pm
That was a great episode but i have a few things to discuss.

1. What was Papa Petrioli's power?2505 First Avenue

2. What's Papa Nakumora's power?

3. Do Nathan's 2 sons have powers too?

All those are unknown.

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4. If Mohinder's sister had a power does he too? And what was his mom or dad's power?

I don't think Mohinder has powers, nor did his dad. He Might have super Brainy powers but I think he works better as a character without them.

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5. Since Peter fought Sylar doe he gain all the powers Sylar gained? Or they just learned and he cannot absorb them? If that is true could Peter cut open peoples heads as well and gain powers Sylar's way?

well first there is no reason for peter to eat people's brains to get powers because he just has to get with in five feet of them. If he really wanted to eat brains he should beable to because he should have Sylar's power of knowing how things work so in theory yes. I'm not sure brain eating for powers is exclusive to Sylar's power, but I still think anyone could eat brains to get powers, it's just Sylar knows how it works.

Now to the bigger issue of is peter has all of Sylar's powers? If we remember the future episode, when Peter was at the strip club/Bar he got a drink and made it move to his hand. That's a good hint but over five years peter could have run into any number of people with the same power. I can't remember he Peter has used any of Sylar's powers sence they fought, but Peter has yet to use Ice Power or melt things, so I thinking no, but that could change.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 15, 2007, 04:18:45 am
Spoiler:

did anyone think Mr. Linderman was going to die?
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 15, 2007, 12:34:08 pm
No that one caught me off guard.
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Post by: Inkling on May 15, 2007, 02:52:35 pm
Spoilers, etc.
I was expecting Micha'hs dad, I forget his name, to kill someone with his powers, but I thought he was going to pull out the heart, not the brain.

I don't know about Papa Nakumora, but I was under the impression that Papa Petrelli didn't have powers, from the online comics.  I'm still wondering what Mama Petrelli can do.  Speaking of the comics, they have what happened to Hana, the Israeli that reads emails with her mind.
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/
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Post by: MetallicDragon on May 15, 2007, 04:54:12 pm
Spoiler:

did anyone think Mr. Linderman was going to die?

I didn't think so. Also: He got punched in the braaaain!
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Post by: Neoadept on May 15, 2007, 05:26:32 pm
It's weird, Hiro and his dad go in the back of sword shop for a few hours and he comes out with full samurai skills and a renewed will to win?  Did he dilate time or something to get a months worth of training in an hour?

Also, I have no idea who's going to explode now.
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Post by: DMB on May 15, 2007, 06:45:45 pm
It's weird, Hiro and his dad go in the back of sword shop for a few hours and he comes out with full samurai skills and a renewed will to win?  Did he dilate time or something to get a months worth of training in an hour?

Also, I have no idea who's going to explode now.
lol That did seem kind of cheap. Though: I was kind of surprised that Ted didn't explode when Sylar took his power. Also pts to Netherflare who got the whole Linderman healing Nathan's wife theory.
And since Jonathan knows that Linderman can heal, why doesnt he ask Linderman to heal his wife so she can walk again?
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Post by: Daxx on May 15, 2007, 06:48:06 pm
If I were Ted I would have gone into serious burn mode. I'm also surprised that he didn't anyway, given that his power triggers when he's stressed.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 15, 2007, 07:32:08 pm
I was thinking that time was slowed during the training ala that room in Dragon Ball Z.
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 15, 2007, 07:37:36 pm
Semi-spoilers:

My guess is that none of the sword stuff was actually new for Hiro, he likely learned it a long time ago. What his father was teaching him was how to focus his mind and such.
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Post by: Slartibartfast on May 18, 2007, 04:20:29 am
There is a 21 hour Heroes Marathon on the Sci-Fi channel Saturday.  If you have the Sci-Fi channel and want to catch up, go for it.
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Post by: Danzik on May 18, 2007, 02:57:55 pm
DVR set.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Post by: DMB on May 18, 2007, 04:31:15 pm
Just found that the season finale is only 1 hr long.
Dammit
And changed avatar just for the occasion.
I was just thinking how empty this tread is going to be once it's all over. :-\
Also, I can't help the feeling that I'm going to be a little disappointed at the finale.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 18, 2007, 05:13:16 pm
I'm sure there will be a cliff hanger to keep us guessing for at least a month then we'll get the a preview in September, then there is the reruns to keep us happy for a bit. anyway hero's Marathon Hell yes!!
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Post by: Netherflare on May 18, 2007, 09:14:39 pm
i cant wait!
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 19, 2007, 06:47:55 pm
I had a thought about Peter's parents, and I'm pretty sure one of them had/has a power. Crazy guess work a head so beware: Peter had to have gotten his abillity to see/dream the furture, remember he had a vision of his brothers car accedent before he ever met up with Issac. Linderman has a thing for people who can see the future and probally had to have someone before he starting buying Issac's paintings. I'm leaning more towords the mom because she was at the party the night of the car accident. Maybe she slipped them both a micky to help boost thier powes? Nathan did fly for the first time that night as well.
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Post by: Daxx on May 20, 2007, 04:36:27 am
Just found that the season finale is only 1 hr long.

Technically it's three, since they're spreading the finale over three episodes.
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 20, 2007, 07:26:28 am
They're spreading the finale over three episodes? So, like three weeks? Where did you hear this?
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Post by: Daxx on May 20, 2007, 07:59:16 am
They're spreading the finale over three episodes? So, like three weeks? Where did you hear this?

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=40615

EDIT:

Is this on tonight in the US?
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 20, 2007, 05:53:40 pm
Thanks for the link! Oh and I don't live in the US (Canada, actually) but I'm pretty sure it's airing on Monday for the US, like everyone else, I think.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 20, 2007, 07:29:31 pm
Hmm, May 23rd is a Wed.

Are they airing it Mon, Tues and Wed?
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Post by: DMB on May 20, 2007, 11:18:42 pm
Hmm, May 23rd is a Wed.

Are they airing it Mon, Tues and Wed?
Apparently not according to wikipedia though I wouldn't advise anyone to check since it appears to have all the spoilers there but I managed to divert my eyes and click back. :D
In short words, the last episode is tomorrow.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 21, 2007, 12:42:54 pm
They are airing it tonight on Canada and the US, Canada gets it one hour before US, the episode is 65 minutes long and I can't wait ;<
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Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 07:04:07 pm
Wow. I thought it was a good ending. I did though find some parts a little off. But i still cant wait for next year!
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 21, 2007, 07:05:11 pm
Holy crap!

Now we have to wait for like 6 months... I think I'll kill myself. So many unsanswered questions...
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Post by: Inkling on May 21, 2007, 07:34:54 pm
Yeah, the wait is going to suck.
.And I'm not really happy that they let Sylar escape into the sewer.
I think they're going to continue the online comic, but i'm not sure.
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/
Speaking of which, I think I know who the other bad guy is that the girl was talking about.  The person who is much worse than Sylar...
http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/novels_display.shtml?novel=8
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Post by: Netherflare on May 21, 2007, 07:55:55 pm
Spoiler:

did Sylar turn into a bug? Or at least his spirit did?

Did Parkman die?

How come Sylar couldnt stop Hiro this time when he tried to kill him?

How come Ms. Petrelli didnt stop Nathan when he randomly flew down to save his bro?
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 21, 2007, 08:06:04 pm
*****SPOILER LOLZ*****

Yeah, one thing that was dumb was that Sylar was quick enough to stop the bullets that Parkman shot at him, but wasn't quick enough to stop Hiro from charging at him with his sword when Sylar had like a 5 second warning.  
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 21, 2007, 10:05:20 pm
That was awesome! Its so cool to see them all in the same place at once (well almost all of them).
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 21, 2007, 11:55:23 pm
Ahhhhhh I missed it! I was painting my new place i'm moving into. Oh well I'll just have to wait a couple of days then I can be like, "OMG did you guys see that, I can't wait till falll!!!"
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Post by: Daxx on May 22, 2007, 06:38:15 am
Sylar's only (almost) human. He could probably hear Parkman coming a mile off, so knew he was there. Hiro just appeared, surprised him and killed him before he had time to react. I'm more surprised that Niki managed to get a hit in.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 22, 2007, 01:01:02 pm
MORE SPOILERS:

It's already on NBC.com so I just watched it. two great parts: "Hiro, you look badass." "Really?" and when Clair jumped out the window.

I think the roach is symbolic the Sylar is hard to kill, I think we got a glimps of next season's villain, the guy who can see Molly when see thinks of him. Did anyone else think that was Hiro's dad on that horse? It sure looked like him to me.

How come Ms. Petrelli didnt stop Nathan when he randomly flew down to save his bro?

I'm guessing it went like this:
Both of them are walking to the helicopter. Natan points at something, "Look ma what's what." Ms. Petrelli turns and looks, "Whaa?" Nathan, (whoosh). Ms. Petrelli, "Why you...!!!," shaking fist in the air. Then she proceeds to run around the heli pad with Yakity Shack (aka the Benny Hill song) playing in the backround.

I'm sure that's what happened, I believe it's one of the deleted scenes.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 01:24:28 pm
Yeah, I posted the episode on youtube here because if NBC shows it on their website it's not illegal, but it got removed -_-

The people who actually died: DL, Parkman
The people who are still alive: Peter, Nathan & Sylar
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Post by: Neoadept on May 22, 2007, 01:47:15 pm
Spoilers:  I also think the guy on the horse was Hiro's dad.  He said he'd been waiting a long time for a Nakamura to ascend, so I'm thinking his power is eternal youth.  And does an eclipse happen every time a hero does something important?

Also, we finally know where Peter got dream powers from.

And I don't think DL is dead, Future Sylar had his power, and Hiro didn't change anything that would make DL not get shot, so he has to survive at least a little longer.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 01:51:18 pm
That makes it totally irrelevant because many events in the past have been changed, the future is completely different and DL isn't signed as a season regular next season so he either dies or mysteriously disappears
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 22, 2007, 01:52:23 pm
****YAY FOR SPOILERS******

Know what would be cool? Since Hiro is back in time, maybe he ends up being Takezo Kensei, and all along the stories were actually about him. You know the painting Isaac painted of Hiro fighting that dinosaur thing a few episodes ago? Maybe that dinosaur thing is actually the dragon that Takezo Kensei kills in the legends.  

It probably won't happen, but it's a possibility. A really cool possibility. Either that or he meets Takezo Kensei, which is more likely.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 02:14:04 pm
The "Takezo Kensei" that shows up at the end of the episode looks like Hiro's father, maybe his father has eternal youth xD

As for the dinosaur, that was actually a painting of the museum where Hiro stole the fake sword from, they had dinosaurs in there I think.
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 22, 2007, 02:20:47 pm
Ah, that would explain it. I never really noticed the dinosaurs in the museum (or I just forgot about them).
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 03:15:47 pm
A little spoiler:

I dont know that girls name, the one who can play illusions, but she is also still alive because in the future Sylar was being Nathan and obviously got that power from her.

And about the bug. I actually think now that that is a totally DIFFERENT person and turned into a bug and finds a host to live off of. Either he could take the powers, of he just found a host that could take ppls powers and control them.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 03:20:59 pm
We didn't see Candice get killed at all so there's no reason to doubt that she's alive, and as I said before many events have changed so the future we saw is now irrelevant.

As for the roach, it's just a roach for God's sake, we've seen roaches before, it's just a metaphor for Sylar as a Parasite
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 03:57:37 pm
We didn't see Candice get killed at all so there's no reason to doubt that she's alive, and as I said before many events have changed so the future we saw is now irrelevant.

As for the roach, it's just a roach for God's sake, we've seen roaches before, it's just a metaphor for Sylar as a Parasite

Or is it? It could have been inside him. Anything is possible in the comic world
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 04:07:47 pm
and what basis do you have for saying that Sylar had a roach inside him, he has been evil all along, there's no basis for it
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 22, 2007, 04:13:18 pm
I'm pretty sure that the cockroach didn't have any plot relevance.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 04:21:49 pm
It could have been controlling him.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 04:28:41 pm
And again I ask where are you getting that from? what you're saying would need some basis for it and so far nothing suggests a controlling roach in that show + as we've seen Sylar is a bad guy all along, no need for a roach controlling him.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 04:42:55 pm
We also saw New York being blown up in every episode, and look what happened.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 04:46:06 pm
Yes but in that case we knew a bomb was going to go off, and it did. But there is nowhere in any episode that suggests that there is someone who can transform into a roach and control others.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 04:49:20 pm
We also didnt know of a man that sees the little girl that can track until this past episode!
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 05:08:55 pm
I give up. Nothing I can say will change your theory, although everyone else except you thinks a people-controlling roach is a bit off even for a show like Heroes :P
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Post by: DMB on May 22, 2007, 05:46:21 pm
Great finale! Though: spoilers: Roach controlling? Where did that come from? It's quite absurd. I was wondering anyways why Peter couldn't have flown into the air by himself or why Claire couldn't just shoot him to put him down; he could regenerate right?.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 06:09:11 pm
Peter was loosing control, and I doubt he would be able to regenerate (or fly) in his condition.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 06:12:01 pm
now that, i will agree on  ::) :P
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Post by: Inkling on May 22, 2007, 06:23:48 pm
As for the roach, there was one crawling around when Noah Mr. Bennet had Sylar captive.  I'm guessing it's just symbolic, but maybe, just maybe,
WILD SPECULATION:

The roach is part of some weird way for Sylar to heal himself, that doesn't work as well as Claire's power.  We've only seen it when Sylar is in serious trouble, and he did survive being shot by Parkman in one of the first episodes and by Bennet and the Hatian later on.
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 06:42:19 pm
I forget, but was Noah significant and answered questions for the future?
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 22, 2007, 07:02:24 pm
Some people are saying Sylar might have the power to travel through shadows, you ever notice how he just pops up behind people? xD
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Post by: Netherflare on May 22, 2007, 07:56:34 pm
So does Peter have the power of dreaming? Because i think i read it here that since maybe Charles had a power and he came into contact with him and in like the first few episodes after Peter woke up from a dream of flying "It was fun flying with you" or something like that. Can anyone back me up?
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Post by: Inkling on May 22, 2007, 08:39:31 pm
Yeah Nether, I remember something along those lines.  And I'm not buying the Sylar being able to travel through shadows thing.  He's just sneaky.  Batman likes to pop up behind people, too.
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Post by: ilikesanta on May 23, 2007, 01:08:43 am
Spoilers spoilers spoilers!!!

Maybe he's just going to get two of every Hero. Any Way it did bug me that Peter just didn't fly away. I was thinking that Hiro was going to  take peter to Japan right right as the US was dropping one of the bombs, but that would have been a little hokey. DL and Parker can still be alive as far as i'm concerned but Nathan is probably a goner unless he hucked Peter at the last minute and tired to get a way. Another thing the 'bugged' me was the no one notice the half dead corps of Sylar dragging himself into the sewer.

I liked how they started the 2nd Volume. "Generations" I'm guessing we learn more about papa Pertrelli and the Linderman group as well as Hiro's adventures in Japan.
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 23, 2007, 03:44:17 am
I'm so happy \o/

In September we are getting not one but TWO "seasons" of Heroes :D

Heroes: Genesis - is the one that just ended
Heroes: Origins - Will follow a Twilight Zone-likeish style, with a narrator telling the stories of several Heroes around the world (not related to the ones we know), this is a spin-off of the main show and will be 6 episodes.
Heroes: Generations - The second season, follows the stories of the Heroes we know, introduces new ones (and villains), jumps back and forth between actual heroes and flashbacks of their parents & ancestors (those who had powers), this one will have 24 episodes.

There's 5 seasons of Heroes predicted so far (and that doesn't include Origins, which is a spin-off)

Also, at the end of Origins fans will be able to vote for who in the Heroes: Origins spin-off will join the main cast :P

I love this show ^_^
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Post by: Netherflare on May 23, 2007, 04:29:35 am
woot! i cant wait!
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 23, 2007, 06:04:52 am
So, how much time in the future do you think the second season will take place after the first? I hope it's not more than a few years after this seasons finale. One thing I can't stand in books, movies or tv shows is if a lot of time has passed that I haven't seen. But I'm guessing the main story of Heroes will be around 5 years later. I'm hoping for less. :-\ 
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Post by: Neoadept on May 23, 2007, 11:57:45 am
I'm thinking it will pick up right where it left off, give or take a week.  Anything else would be criminal, considering the cliffhangers.
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Post by: smurfslayer on May 23, 2007, 05:19:10 pm
I'm thinking it will pick up right where it left off, give or take a week.  Anything else would be criminal, considering the cliffhangers.
Yeah, it wouldn't make sense to skip forward in time.
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Post by: russellmania4 on May 23, 2007, 07:34:00 pm
Well, it could make sense. You would be filled in on what had happened with all the cliffhangers by hearing what the characters say, kind of like in the episode that was 5 years in the future. But yeah, now that I think about it, it would make more sense having it pick up right where it left off.

I just re-read what I wrote and realized it made no sense.  :P
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Post by: DarkDragon on May 24, 2007, 04:48:14 pm
It has to pick up a little bit later from where it left off (remember the novels are going to be released every week until season 2 is back and after that too). The 5 years after episode had a point to it, now there is no point to show what's happening 5 years after because everything changed :P
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Post by: Slartibartfast on June 09, 2007, 03:41:38 pm
Heroes: Season 1 DVD Set: (http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=22722) RELEASE DATE, AUGUST 28, 2007.
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Post by: Cobra on July 04, 2007, 06:05:42 am
Yay The Australians finally caught up and with me getting a new PC with in a week I'll be downloading episodes that I can burn to DVD and watch on TV I'll be caught up for future seasons and can engage in the main discussion instead of only like 2 or 3 of us in the Australian thread.

For the record the roach was a Metaphor. Also anyone wonder what happened with the 9th Doctor (Christopher Eccelson (The invisible Man)) Maybe he dragged Sylar away or something. I was seriously hoping for some major Smackdown between Peter and Sylar we got some brief scuffle with not much powers being used I kind of wanted an epic battle.
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Post by: SBD on July 08, 2007, 08:18:17 pm
Hello my non-aussie Heroes fan freinds!
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Post by: DMB on July 09, 2007, 12:08:43 am
Why hello there! Also for spoilers for next season: It is said that Nathan and Peter will actually return.

Link here:http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0813715/faq (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0813715/faq) And check way at the bottom of the page.
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Post by: sltlamina on July 09, 2007, 12:22:44 am
I knew that, it was on that Heroes Wiki website that I posted in the Aus topic.
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Post by: stuck on August 04, 2007, 12:25:40 pm
Here's some news. It goes without saying that there are (trivial) spoilers, I guess.




A New Heroes Hire
Fri Aug 3, 1:30 PM

 The Nine crew was okay, but apparently Jessica Collins was holding out for some Heroes.

The actress, whose ABC heist-themed serial was derailed by low ratings, has signed on for a recurring role on NBC's superheroic, Emmy-nominated hit.

The Peacock confirmed Friday that Collins plays Sophie, a mysterious woman with powers of her own who works for an organization that's keeping tabs on the heroes.

Aside from The Nine, whose final episodes are being burned off this month, Collins' credits include guest stints on CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, Law & Order: Criminal Intent and Ghost Whisperer. She also costarred with LL Cool J in the CBS drama pilot The Man, which wasn't picked up for the fall season.

While producers remain tight-lipped about what's in store, they and several key castmembers have dropped some tantalizing hints.

Heroes mastermind Tim Kring told reporters in a conference call Thursday that after introducing all the key players last season, the new episodes will focus on conflicts among the various characters.

"We can expect to spend a little more time this year on a few storylines per episode that will allow us to highlight certain characters each week," he said. "By extension, some characters will be left out of episodes each week."

The show's creator and executive producer also noted that several new villains are in the works, one of whom may be the "Boogeyman" haunting the dreams of little Molly Walker last season.

Kring also confirmed that Star Trek staple George Takei is returning as Hiro's father and revealed that producers are looking "for another face that will have a very similar impact" to Takei for genre fans.

Collins is now the second confirmed new cast addition. A character named Maya Herrera, played by Dania Ramirez, will emerge as a new hero from South America, although Kring is mum on her secret power.

Then there's the prequel/spinoff, Heroes: Origins, scheduled to air during the original's winter hiatus.

During Origins' six-episode run, fans will have the chance to vote online for their favorite new hero, who will then be added to the cast of the main series. At last week's Comic-Con, Kring announced that comic book-lovin' Clerks director Kevin Smith will write and direct an episode of Origins.

Meanwhile, Kring scuttled talk of a big-screen Heroes anytime soon. "The show is doing everything a movie would do," he said.

"I'm not sure what story we would tell."

He and fan fave Masi Oka—whose turn as Japanese everyman Hiro earned him a Best Supporting Actor Emmy nod—did express excitement over an upcoming series of hardcover graphic novels from DC Comics.

Meanwhile, sources say the loft belonging to Isaac Mendez, the artist who could paint the future, remains intact and may play a part in future stories, even though his character was killed off by serial superhero slayer Sylar.

Kring said second-season stories will take place in such exotic locales as Egypt, Central America, Mexico, Haiti and Ukraine. We'll also find out how Hiro copes with his trip back in time to feudal Japan.

For fans who want a crash course in the series, the season-one DVD arrives in stores Aug. 28. The set features the original two-hour pilot, more than 50 deleted or extended scenes and full commentary.

"It's those viewers we're really hoping to attract and gain a new fan base for the opening of the second season, which is about three weeks later. It could work out nicely for us," said Kring.

Heroes' second season kicks off Sept. 24 at 9 p.m.

© 2007 E! Entertainment Television, Inc. All rights reserved.,
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Post by: sltlamina on August 04, 2007, 06:34:48 pm
YAAAAY!

When did Heroes start in America? Cos it didn't start over here until Feburary or so. So I'd like to think it'd be Feburary again.
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Post by: Cobra on August 04, 2007, 10:24:45 pm
I'm not going to wait for us to get it just going to download right away.
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Post by: emmet on August 05, 2007, 04:00:28 am
I'm not going to wait for us to get it just going to download right away.

Same, we get it even after you Aussies.
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Post by: sltlamina on August 05, 2007, 04:05:35 am
Hehe, yeeaah :D

My mate said he was watching it yesterday. I got confused and thought season 2 had started over there. But apparently season 1 has just started. I was under the impression you guys got it right after America.
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Post by: Netherflare on August 13, 2007, 08:50:11 pm
September 24th is when it starts in America! WOOT!
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Post by: sltlamina on August 13, 2007, 09:30:20 pm
Wooo! Oh wait...damn :-\

When did it start there last year? 'bout the same time? If so I'd say we can expect it about Feburary again (it was Feb here wasn't it? I forget)
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Post by: Blarg on August 21, 2007, 06:42:56 pm
This is quite possibly some of the best news I've heard all week.

Thanks a bunches! ;D
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Post by: Slartibartfast on August 21, 2007, 10:35:23 pm
I just saw a commerical for the DVD set.  It said it would have the "unaired premiere."    ???
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Post by: ilikesanta on August 27, 2007, 10:35:09 pm
I just saw a commerical for the DVD set.  It said it would have the "unaired premiere."    ???

I think it's just an extened version. Anyway it comes out this Tuesday aka tomorrow! someone buy it and tell us all about it.
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Post by: russellmania4 on August 31, 2007, 03:18:53 pm
When does the first episode air anyway?
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Post by: DMB on August 31, 2007, 03:37:48 pm
September 24th is when it starts in America! WOOT!
::)
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Post by: russellmania4 on August 31, 2007, 06:45:03 pm
Well sorry if I didn't feel like sifting through 30 pages of this thread and I was too lazy to do a 10 second Google search.
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Post by: DMB on August 31, 2007, 11:11:09 pm
 I know I shouldn't be a Brandon about it. But dude, you just had to look five posts up. *NBC's "The More You Know" logo appears over head* ;)
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Post by: Yannick on September 01, 2007, 10:10:30 am
Heroes II will start in Belgium around May, yay!
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Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 06, 2007, 12:49:11 pm
I am finally able to read this topic without a chronic fear of the series being spoilt.

This show was ****ing fantastic.
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Post by: DarkDragon on December 07, 2007, 11:00:07 am
Now I want Volume III >_<
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Post by: GamerMommy on January 12, 2008, 08:44:44 am
this is one series i hope doesn't get comlpetely fubarred by the writers' strike.  i mean....december 3 was the last of the new episodes, and while i thought it was cool, it isn't "last episode of the season" quality.

i just love masi oka.  i want to give him a noogie and send him to the sandbox to play with my 3-year-old.

and i really think they have sufficient eye-candy for the menfolk on this show, but as far as i'm concerned, this show could use an infusion of HOTGUY, immediately.  but that's just the pervy old lady talking.   ;)
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Post by: DarkDragon on January 12, 2008, 06:20:55 pm
Well, when was the last time Heroes had an episode worth of a Season finale anyways? :P
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Post by: GamerMommy on January 13, 2008, 09:16:18 am
Season 1, Episode 17: Company Man
Original Air Date: 26 February 2007


Best. Episode. Ever.
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Post by: ilikesanta on January 19, 2008, 07:26:13 am
I got Season 1 on DVD for Christmas and I finally got around to watching the un-aired pilot, and man were they're some major changes (I don't think it's been discused before so heres what I saw). For the most part, it plays out just like the first 2 episodes. The one big change is when Parkman (pshyic cop) is at the crime scene, where origally it was where Sylar killed Molly parents and finds Molly in a closet, in the Pilot it was a house of terrorist, and Parkman "hears" a terrorist and finds him under the stairs. The FBI lady was played by a different actress, and so was Parkman's wife. Radio Active Man makes an appearance as well but he's one of the terrorist and we find out that Parkman knows him.

I don't remember how the aired episodes were, but they made Sylar appear like he was a hard core Bible thumper and at the very end of the episode, as a cliff hanger, Sylar appears in Mohinder's apartment (I don't think that happend either). The cute girl who lives next door to Mohinder isn't in it at all.  :( Issac (the artist) tries to go cold turkey and chains himself to the wall, but he ends up sawing off his own hand! (that didn't happen in the aired version right?) I think that was everything...

Overall I'm glad they made the changes they did, the terrorist angle seemed like it would have been bad.
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Post by: emmet on March 05, 2008, 02:26:35 pm
Do we know when and if this is returning?
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Post by: Miclee on March 05, 2008, 03:03:20 pm
This fall is Season Three/Volume Three(No longer season 2).
Best. Show. Ever.
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Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 06, 2008, 08:01:26 am
I think AlwaysWatching wants to know when Season 2 is coming to the UK.

As do I.
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Post by: emmet on March 06, 2008, 08:49:22 am
Naw. Not that. I just wanted to know if there was an official US date for the season to continue.

Funnily enough, we have season 2 here. You don't?
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Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 06, 2008, 10:21:30 am
Nope.

Infuriatingly. I don't want to watch it on the internet, but I think I'll have to soon.
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Post by: Gungnir on March 06, 2008, 12:55:09 pm
I watch most stuff online, especially when I miss an episode. Heroes, Lost...
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Post by: DarkDragon on March 06, 2008, 02:23:47 pm
Naw. Not that. I just wanted to know if there was an official US date for the season to continue.

Funnily enough, we have season 2 here. You don't?

I read somewhere in September, the 23rd if I'm not mistaken but I'll have to check and get back to you.

EDIT:

Nope, they haven't said the day yet, only sometime in September.
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Post by: emmet on July 13, 2008, 01:21:31 pm
September the 22nd is now official.

Promo for what was originally called Heroes: Origins. Now a web series. (http://www.atomicpopcorn.net/2008/07/08/new-heroes-promo-for-the-web-series/)
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Post by: GCool on July 13, 2008, 04:07:05 pm
Web series? Me likey... Any chance we'll be able to watch it in England?

Also, what about that rumor that we'll be getting season 3 at around the same time as the US?
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Post by: ilikesanta on July 13, 2008, 06:40:28 pm
Has anyone else seen the Promo for Season 3; Villains?

Minor Spoilers from the trailerWhat I remember, is that there are 5 "villains" that are locked away in a underground building, and then they manage to escape. It looks to me that the Origins web series tells the story of those five "villains."

Any way it got me excited for the new season.
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Post by: ilikesanta on August 02, 2008, 01:27:45 pm
Hey the first three episodes are up! (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?action=post;topic=7095.360;num_replies=376) Just a warning they are low on budget, and there's some bad product placement. Oh well.
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Post by: Gungnir on August 02, 2008, 01:36:39 pm
Very funny Santa, making me post this post.


Evil evil person...


But I really can't wait for the new season.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on September 21, 2009, 10:58:21 pm
Its back!  ;D
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Post by: martyk on September 22, 2009, 11:11:02 am
OMGYESSS!  I NEED MAH HEROES!


Spoilerz!
Heroes is awesome!
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Post by: ilikesanta on September 22, 2009, 06:26:04 pm
I've decided that i'm not going to put much effort in keeping up with the show any more. I watch it at work mostly because there's nothing better on.  :-\
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Post by: smurfslayer on September 22, 2009, 07:52:27 pm
I've been a huge critic of Heroes over the past few seasons, and I contemplated whether I would even both checking out this season at all, but the premiere was actually surprisingly good. It didn't focus on an overabundance of characters, there was no quasi-philosophical monologue, some characters were actually doing something heroic for once, no vision of an impending apocalypse, and we even got a pretty decent super-powered fight scene for a change.

Also "head Sylar" is freaking awesome. The interrogation scene was amazing.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on September 23, 2009, 03:58:33 am
"Head Sylar" reminds me or "Head Scorpius" (aka Harvey (http://farscape.wikia.com/wiki/Harvey)) who lived in John Crichton head on Farscape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farscape).

(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/farscape/images/thumb/b/bd/Harvey_2.jpg/200px-Harvey_2.jpg)
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Post by: Doomsday on September 24, 2009, 11:21:22 am
Shouldn't that be double spoilered?
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Post by: Hydromancerx on October 20, 2009, 05:37:36 am
The episodes are getting better and better. I hope Hiro doesn't die or I think I will stop watching the show. He is my favorite character.
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Post by: Rysworld on October 20, 2009, 08:36:12 am
My friend knows the guy that played young Hiro on that one episode.
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Post by: Detoxicated on October 21, 2009, 03:07:33 pm
so whats so special? He knows a kid
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Post by: Detoxicated on November 04, 2009, 10:36:50 am
Man hiro is so stupid...
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Post by: emmet on November 04, 2009, 12:24:10 pm
Nope, just horny.
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Post by: Detoxicated on November 04, 2009, 12:41:11 pm
yea but now he messed everything up...
and why would they show HRGs little story with that lady?
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Post by: SpinoC666 on November 05, 2009, 08:11:14 am
A little piece of me died when Charlie died in season 1. I don't know what to think of now that she is back. I really like the character and it makes you feel good inside!

The only thing I don't like with this season is the carnival. They are annoying and just decided to come out of the blue for this season. Are they going to be there for the rest of the series? I hope Sylar just kills them and takes all their powers.
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Post by: Doomsday on November 05, 2009, 08:24:34 am
The Carnival.. well.. it kind of fits in and they are in the gray area between good and evil. I suspect that they are both. It'd be interesting if they became a unifying force for our normal Heroes. So they should stick around, but parts about the Carnival is annoying as they are now. *shrugs*
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Post by: Celdur on November 05, 2009, 08:59:54 am
i really like the carnaval leader guy, whatever he is called

and did anyone notice the chrono trigger reference?
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Post by: Doomsday on November 05, 2009, 09:20:14 am
How could anyone miss the Chrono Trigger reference? Crono and Marle forever and through all time. But what's even better is how the reference fits the story if you think about it. Charlie is trapped in time, and Hiro has to rescue her just like Chrono Trigger... sort of.
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Post by: Detoxicated on November 06, 2009, 12:36:44 pm
His name is samuel, and hes such a mean man... he uses his "family" whenever he needs it, power hungry
i like the character, he brings in a new flavor
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Post by: Hydromancerx on November 10, 2009, 04:54:38 am
If Sylar keeps doing what he is doing, he is going to get Parkman killed ... oh wait ... nevermind. :P
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Post by: LadyM on June 16, 2013, 11:05:33 am
After 4 years of watching off and on, mostly off, I finished the series!!

Yeah it's a big deal... to me.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2013, 03:33:37 pm
But it got so... bad   :'(
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Post by: Inkling on June 16, 2013, 07:17:22 pm
Stupid writer's strike killed it.
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Post by: Neoadept on June 16, 2013, 07:26:50 pm
Also stupid writers.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2013, 11:46:46 pm
Also trying to be JJ Abrams.
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Post by: LadyM on June 17, 2013, 09:43:55 am
They wrapped it up enough to leave it even though it said "to be continued".