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Title: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: The Tormentor on September 21, 2006, 01:33:34 pm
DOCTOR WHO...

I think this is a really good show but i keep missing it. is there anywhere I can see missed episodes (like a website?)

Anyway, this topic can be used to discuss the show.




thanks, The Tormentor
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on September 21, 2006, 01:57:42 pm
Buy the Dvd sets.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on September 21, 2006, 03:16:56 pm
I assume youre referring to the two new series. Because if not youve got 40 years worth of catching up to do :P

They arent online. Sorry.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on September 21, 2006, 11:43:27 pm
At least not leagelly.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Vivec on January 02, 2007, 03:04:24 pm
Hardly a bump if it's on the front page, but here goes.

Is there a DVD set for the new series? I saw one for the old one but I don't really care about that one.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on January 02, 2007, 03:33:51 pm
There is.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 05:28:41 pm
Yes, I think there are box sets for the first two seasons (1 season of Eccleston and the first season with Tennant). Second season with tennat starts this year. With new 'escort'. Woo.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2007, 07:04:58 pm
Yes I have seen box sets for Tennant in stores so i assume most of the world has them. Does anyone know when the Torchwood spin off is making its way to Australia?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Vivec on January 03, 2007, 04:40:53 pm
All right, thanks. Now I just have to see if they've got it in the USA.

Best Buy seems to have it. I'll try to get it sometime then.
Title: REALLY
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2007, 12:07:54 am
I remember seeing clips of the old one when I was a kid and falling over laughing at the Daleks. My mothero n the other hand was apparently terrified of them.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on January 12, 2007, 11:58:56 am
Yay Doctor Who!!

But i think we get like the last previous season here in the States. For instance at the end of December the last episode was where Doctor Who get separated from Rose in 2 parallels worlds. Is that the last episode for you guys in the UK? Or are you already through the up comming season?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: operaghost21 on January 12, 2007, 12:26:19 pm
Yay Doctor Who!!

But i think we get like the last previous season here in the States. For instance at the end of December the last episode was where Doctor Who get separated from Rose in 2 parallels worlds. Is that the last episode for you guys in the UK? Or are you already through the up comming season?

speaking of that...evil robot smack talk...greatest scene EVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuFuTah4UXw)  :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on January 12, 2007, 12:28:59 pm
Yay Doctor Who!!

But i think we get like the last previous season here in the States. For instance at the end of December the last episode was where Doctor Who get separated from Rose in 2 parallels worlds. Is that the last episode for you guys in the UK? Or are you already through the up comming season?

speaking of that...evil robot smack talk...greatest scene EVER (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuFuTah4UXw)  :D

Yeah that was a great scene. Reminds me of some of the Spore fanfic alien arguments :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Behumat on January 12, 2007, 12:38:24 pm
Yay Doctor Who!!

But i think we get like the last previous season here in the States. For instance at the end of December the last episode was where Doctor Who get separated from Rose in 2 parallels worlds. Is that the last episode for you guys in the UK? Or are you already through the up comming season?

Yea, the seasons in the UK are offset to ours, so while we just finished the episode Doomsday, and now have to wait for the next season to roll around, they're already starting the next season with Runaway bride. So, about the time they're done with this season, we'll just be starting it. See what I'm saying? Not that it matters to me, I just download them off the net. Why should the canadians get to see it before me?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2007, 06:11:42 pm
Why should the canadians get to see it before me?

Because you are INFERIOR!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on January 12, 2007, 06:52:54 pm
Why should the canadians get to see it before me?

Because you are INFERIOR!

 ::)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 25, 2007, 10:19:24 am
New season starts next week, come on now, who's excited by this?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on March 25, 2007, 10:31:11 am
Finally, am I the only one whos sick of the episode "Army of Ghosts"
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on March 25, 2007, 10:44:17 am
Hey, at least you get re-runs.  Over here in the states we get one shot to see an episode on Sci-fi before it disappears from US stations forever.  Except for the Christmas Invasion, which apparently counts as a movie.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 25, 2007, 10:45:12 am
Army of ghosts was good. Doomsday sucked hard.

New season starts next week, come on now, who's excited by this?

Ooh, I am. And it cooincides with the start of the easter holidays!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on March 25, 2007, 12:34:09 pm
I am in a state of readiness.

But how do you remember the names of the episodes? I can barely remember what happened in them.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 25, 2007, 12:37:40 pm
Because the names usually have to do with what was in the episode... most of them are pretty straightforward, The Satan Pit, Army of Ghosts, The Age of Steel... I can't really remember many more... Tooth and Claw was the freaking awesome Werewolf episode... I remember Fear Her just because they totally wasted the potential of the title with that turkey.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 25, 2007, 12:50:57 pm
Army of ghosts was good. Doomsday sucked hard.

New season starts next week, come on now, who's excited by this?

Ooh, I am. And it cooincides with the start of the easter holidays!
Yeah I know, I go home the day before the first episode, fear her was one of the worst episodes of the new series, I actually like doomsday, especially the robotic bitch-fest, I thought the girl in the fireplace and age of steel where two of the best episodes; clock work obots and cybermen
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on March 25, 2007, 01:04:11 pm
/lurk slaps his forehead.

By the Automaton, how did I forget those clockwork robots?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Daxx on March 25, 2007, 01:10:51 pm
*prepares popcorn*

I don't have a TV in my flat, so being able to see it when it's first broadcast (rather than resorting to... other methods) is nice.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on March 25, 2007, 02:11:20 pm
Hmmm, I'm going too like the new assistant, she seems spunky.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 25, 2007, 02:15:47 pm
Hmmm, I'm going too like the new assistant, she seems spunky.
If by spunky you mean actually attractive....
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 25, 2007, 02:53:55 pm
Yeah, Billie Piper was more just slutty than genuinely attractive... I guess thats you get when you put a gay man in charge of the show.
(Note: This comment was not intended to be homophobic, I am simply stating the opinion that a homosexual man would be ill-qualified to guage the attractiveness of a woman compared to a heterosexual man.)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Daxx on March 25, 2007, 05:20:23 pm
Better than Billie Piper, I'd say, but not really my type.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on March 25, 2007, 05:27:31 pm
I rarely judge on looks, but Billie Piper makes me want to rip my eyes out of my head. I don't even know why, I know it's unreasonable, but I just can't stand the sight of her.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 26, 2007, 04:30:22 am
Its never going to come back to the US. :( I need the Doctor!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 27, 2007, 04:37:23 am
They arent showing it the US? Damn, why do the American networks feel the need to deprive you guys of awesome sci-fi?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on March 27, 2007, 04:55:49 am
So they can keep pumping out garbage like Farscape which inevitably drifts over here to pollute our screens. Feugh! They like to give and take crap.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2007, 04:58:14 am
I didn't think Farscape was bad. At least they seem to replay plenty of Doctor who on UK-TV down here.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 27, 2007, 05:03:34 am
They arent showing it the US? Damn, why do the American networks feel the need to deprive you guys of awesome sci-fi?
Because it's Britsh, and American TV hates British TV programs unless they've been sufficiently 'Americanized' (Those who don't believe me compare the American and British versions of The Office, who wants to be a millionaire? and I'm almost certain that the that 70's show is based on a series on ITV over a decade ago)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2007, 05:08:24 am
Of course yanks don't trust anything not made by them they will export shows by the boat load but when it comes to getting anything they Americanize it. Of course this results in all the humor or general artistic-ness on getting lost in translation.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: LadyM on March 27, 2007, 06:16:06 am
So they can keep pumping out garbage like Farscape which inevitably drifts over here to pollute our screens. Feugh! They like to give and take crap.

I liked Farscape, one of my favorite shows. They show Dr Who in America, I've seen it. Not sure if it's new ones. I like British television.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 27, 2007, 06:28:42 am
So they can keep pumping out garbage like Farscape which inevitably drifts over here to pollute our screens. Feugh! They like to give and take crap.

I liked Farscape, one of my favorite shows. They show Dr Who in America, I've seen it. Not sure if it's new ones. I like British television.
I wouldn't say farscape is garbage, it had a pretty good plot and interesting characters, plus wasn't most of it filmed in Australia by Australians?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Celdur on March 27, 2007, 10:12:22 am
damn dutch television...we havnt got ANYTHING fun on our tv...exept maybe lama`s XD
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on March 27, 2007, 11:42:53 am
Of course yanks don't trust anything not made by them they will export shows by the boat load but when it comes to getting anything they Americanize it. Of course this results in all the humor or general artistic-ness on getting lost in translation.

Are you a self-hating American or someone who's just made one too many typos?

I find that television is generally less interesting than the internet anyway. I don't watch that much.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 27, 2007, 03:03:17 pm
So they can keep pumping out garbage like Farscape which inevitably drifts over here to pollute our screens. Feugh! They like to give and take crap.

Farscape was good!. Plus it was Canadian or was it Australian i forget. The crappy stuff is Battlestar Craprica and Star Gate milking.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on March 27, 2007, 08:39:39 pm
As an Australian i can confirm it was an Australian made show. A lot of extras are A lot of Australian actors plus you can tell every time they end up going to earth they seem to crash land near Sydney. I was watching a Farscape repeat on sci-fi last week it was the one where some aliens trick John into thinking he found a worm hole home to find out if humans would accept them. Cue John and Erin running around the Sydney harbor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 29, 2007, 02:04:15 am
You mean John never went far into space? He just went to Australia? What a rip. I guess Australians are just    Sebacean in disguise.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on March 29, 2007, 04:04:24 am
The major flaw in that is Sebaceans can't stand the heat but Australians are built to love it.

But this is so not about Doctor Who I'm sure there is a Farscape (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=2297.0) topic somewhere.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on March 29, 2007, 07:52:40 am
Yeah, back on topic!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 29, 2007, 09:42:27 am
Cybermen! Daleks! No Billy Piper!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on March 29, 2007, 09:46:38 am
Hurrah!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on March 29, 2007, 09:24:49 pm
All we need now are the Zarbi
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b210/Feena191/Doctor%20Who%20Pictures/zarbi.jpg)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on March 29, 2007, 11:31:49 pm
All we need now are the Zarbi
(Pic)

That episode was hilarious! One of them actually walked into the camera. :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on March 30, 2007, 03:01:50 am
The major flaw in that is Sebaceans can't stand the heat but Australians are built to love it.

But this is so not about Doctor Who I'm sure there is a Farscape (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=2297.0) topic somewhere.

Sebacean .... Naucean ..... hmmm .... <.<......>.>.... *runs away*
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on March 31, 2007, 11:13:10 am
It has begun
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on March 31, 2007, 11:52:38 am
That was less than spectacular. Also you're on the moon with no air BUT THERE IS MAGICALLY ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO KILL EVERYONE LOL.

 :-\
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on March 31, 2007, 12:07:55 pm
That was less than spectacular. Also you're on the moon with no air BUT THERE IS MAGICALLY ENOUGH ELECTRICITY TO KILL EVERYONE LOL.

 :-\

Well hospitals do have generators, but yeah I don't think they'd be able to churn out enough power for that sort of thing, other than that I thought it was pretty cool.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on March 31, 2007, 12:57:51 pm
I liked the way the Doctor shows up and holds up his tie at the start of the show, and you have no idea what just happened, then at the end he proves to her he can travel through time by dissapearing and then re-appearing with his tie off.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 31, 2007, 04:34:26 pm
I think this was a solid opening number. The villain was a little lame, but the rhino-men were nowhere near as bad as I expected them to be, and were actually pretty awesome. Next weeks looks to be a cracker.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on March 31, 2007, 05:10:03 pm
Well, the space-rhinos were pretty good. But another thing bugs me. Don't MRI scanners contain electromagnets, and hence inductors? When you unplug a powered inductor, it induces a bigass voltage spike, enough to fry equipment. If the thing as running at, what, ten-thousand times its usual power, then everyone should have died anyway - or at least the Doc. Add to that that the magnetic field from the thing should have attracted every piece of metal in the hospital and you've got a very poorly thought-out finale.

This is of course related to the problem that there is no mains power on the Moon - and just what the hell happened to Moon gravity anyway?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 31, 2007, 05:37:08 pm
Force-fields. The Judoon force-field provided exactly 1G of gravity and inhibited any electromagnetic ju-ju except whatever the old woman was planning.

Science-fiction apologetics is fun!


Edit: I just realised that you could hear the rhino-men's footsteps outside the force-field... even though the moon is airless. A wizard must have done it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on April 01, 2007, 04:42:17 am
I think the more obvious flaw was how the hell did she bring him back when he'd been drained of blood!? I man CPR isn't going to refill your veins now is it?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 01, 2007, 05:26:58 am
It is if youre the Goddamn Doctor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 01, 2007, 05:28:32 am
Also they should have frozen to death.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 01, 2007, 05:28:57 am
Force fields!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on April 01, 2007, 12:35:05 pm
What I want to know is what are they going to do when he runs out of regenerations?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on April 01, 2007, 12:40:58 pm
He will become "Doctor When"
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 01, 2007, 12:53:21 pm
I didn't really understand why the Doctor and the Judoon didn't co-operate. They seem to work in the same business, so to speak. The Science was a bit dodgy....but we have all got used to Doctor Who's Science.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 01, 2007, 02:15:37 pm
To those suckers who missed Doctor Who
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on April 01, 2007, 02:27:55 pm
Always, I thank you, American Doctor Who fans thank you.  The World thanks you.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 01, 2007, 02:29:56 pm
Yes... Yes! I am one step closer....

You just soled your soul, TO HITLER.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on April 01, 2007, 02:42:31 pm
No such luck, I already sold my soul to that thing in Satan Pit.  In hind sight I should have waited to make sure it won before I did that. :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on April 04, 2007, 02:27:04 am
I just saw the 1st episode of Doctor Who back where the old Who 1st met Rose on TV here (not the link above). They had living plastic manikins taking over London. I thought i had seen them all but apparently not. I know there have been older Doctor Whos but thats the 1st of the new stuff.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Behumat on April 04, 2007, 03:13:18 am
yea, he's doing the invisible man impression on heroes now.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on April 04, 2007, 03:25:29 am
Ok i saw 1st episode of season 3 on that link and that was awesome! I miss Rose though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 04, 2007, 05:09:19 am
You're welcome, Hydro!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: LadyM on April 04, 2007, 05:31:57 am
To those suckers who missed Doctor Who

Stop linking to off site locations that are showing these episodes. If someone wants this information, either pm it to them or let them search.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 05, 2007, 11:03:33 am
Rose or the new girl?

I prefered Rose. The new girl is so....capabale. Rose was good because she was useless.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on April 05, 2007, 11:23:47 am
You LIKE incompetence?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on April 05, 2007, 12:49:07 pm
It made The Doctor look better
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 06, 2007, 01:01:41 pm
You LIKE incompetence?

The conventional Doctor Who girl was an idioitic bimbo who seemed to always be captured and the like.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on April 06, 2007, 04:01:41 pm
You LIKE incompetence?

The conventional Doctor Who girl was an idioitic bimbo who seemed to always be captured and the like.

Well Mickey seemed really useless in the past seasons until near the end.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on April 06, 2007, 05:31:29 pm
I always wondered why the Doctor kept Rose around, I mean if I was a time traveller and my assistent accidentally rejuvinated one of my most fearsome enemies, who then proceded to kill hundreds of people, I'd make her find her own way back home.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 07, 2007, 11:48:21 am
That was an okay episode, but next weeks one looks really good.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 08, 2007, 04:57:04 pm
I can't really get excited about next week's... the cars look too fake CGI. But the guy from Father Ted as a cat guy is probably good.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on April 08, 2007, 07:11:54 pm
This is from way back when the first new series was being screened in Aus. I thought it was kinda funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANPtWjW8r0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANPtWjW8r0)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on April 09, 2007, 01:45:12 am
This is from way back when the first new series was being screened in Aus. I thought it was kinda funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANPtWjW8r0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANPtWjW8r0)

That was funny!  :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Kcronos on April 09, 2007, 09:27:34 am
I once saw part of the old series.  Times sure have chnged...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 14, 2007, 12:26:54 pm
*Sigh* I'm annoyed. Next week the Daleks return again! I was hoping they had finally ended them.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on April 14, 2007, 12:28:41 pm
They can't kill the Daleks, they'll always find a way to bring them back  >:(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 14, 2007, 12:39:05 pm
Still, this episode was fairly good. The ending was a bit abrupt, though. They're the only people on Nu Urf, what the hell are they supposed to do?

But still: Goodie, more Daleks  ::)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on April 14, 2007, 12:42:45 pm
Would they not have been surprised to find everybody dead when they drove up?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 14, 2007, 12:48:06 pm
Precisely.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on April 14, 2007, 01:03:00 pm
And would the city not just fall into anarchy with the government dead?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 14, 2007, 01:10:53 pm
Novice Hayne will be a just and fair cat tyrant.

Despite my expectations I actually really enjoyed this episode. It also pretty much confirms the rumors that The Master will be making a comeback for the series finale.

Next weeks looks a bit meh, I mean, you need the Daleks or it isnt Doctor Who. But the pig men? Sam no like.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 14, 2007, 02:07:33 pm
(http://catandgirl.com/archive/cg0321lawn.gif)[/img] (http://catandgirl.com)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on April 14, 2007, 04:56:02 pm
The thing I found weird about this episode was that some people had stayed in those things for twenty years, and then at the end when they can walk about as free as you like, they still drive around in the sodding cars! Other than that I thought it was actually a pretty good episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 14, 2007, 05:01:52 pm
Yeah, I thought that too. I guess after 20 years you just get used to living in a box.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 20, 2007, 09:51:51 am
This episode is gonna be a two parter, I just found out.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2007, 10:07:14 am
You mean you didnt guess that from the fact that two episodes in a row have "Daleks" in the title?

Spoiler: According to the Radio Times cover the episodes feature a Dalek-human hybrid. I'm not quite sure what to think.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 20, 2007, 10:36:42 am
From what I understand of the insides of Daleks, tentacle rape.

Is this an attempt to crack the Japanese audience?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2007, 11:34:49 am
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/hybrid.jpg)

They don't really look dexterous enough for proper raping.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 20, 2007, 11:52:14 am
Ah, but you have to wonder where they came from.  ;)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2007, 12:21:17 pm
Well, the article in the actual magazine said the justification was "The Daleks are expert geneticists" (it being how they originated and all). Besides, I think a Dalek would find contact with an inferior being unacceptable.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 20, 2007, 12:42:49 pm
 ;) ;) ;)

Although, if they're such experts, why did they make themselves into tiny tentacle blobs that can't move under their own power?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on April 20, 2007, 02:19:32 pm
Because they are perfect tiny blobs that can't move under their own power.  Why should they change perfection when they can build a robotic suit superior to most other technology around said perfection?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2007, 03:32:15 pm
The blobs can do lots of thinking. They get pig men to do all the dirty work.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 20, 2007, 03:55:33 pm
Is that woman Marilyn Monroe?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2007, 04:29:16 pm
No. The cast list says she's called Talulah.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 21, 2007, 11:25:01 am
I told you there'd be tentacle rape!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 21, 2007, 12:03:33 pm
ARGH!

I missed it, damn BBC and their re-scheduling. I'll watch it either on BBC3 tomorrow, or on the internet.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 21, 2007, 12:09:44 pm
I told you there'd be tentacle rape!

Duly noted.

The producers seem to be on a roll with this series. Both series one and two had already had a dud episode by now (I'm thinking "Aliems of London" and "School Reunion" specifically.) but so far they havent gone far wrong on this one. I honestly don't see how they can screw up the second part now, after a buildup like that. Plus later on there's an episode called "42" which has got to be good just because.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: unlamp on April 21, 2007, 12:27:08 pm
ARGH!

I missed it, damn BBC and their re-scheduling. I'll watch it either on BBC3 tomorrow, or on the internet.

where is it on the internet?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: LadyM on April 24, 2007, 08:57:50 am
You can't post links to "illegal" uploads of TV shows, someone can pm it to you or you can do a google search.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Dr. Croccer on April 27, 2007, 02:37:31 pm
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/hybrid.jpg)

They don't really look dexterous enough for proper raping.
If you turn the picture around you've got yourself a Scrotum-man, Thats the thing that bugs me about them: If they're such ''genetics experts'', can they just mold they're body in something less...obscene?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 27, 2007, 02:56:21 pm
Daleks don't care about obscenity or aesthetics. They are functionalists.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Dr. Croccer on April 28, 2007, 01:55:56 am
Daleks don't care about obscenity or aesthetics. They are functionalists.
...
So being a large scrotum with tentacles is going to help them to exterminate?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on April 28, 2007, 06:52:21 pm
So being a large scrotum with tentacles is going to help them to exterminate?

How could it not?

Also, what day/time is Doctor Who on in England?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on April 28, 2007, 06:55:29 pm
6:45-7:00, i can't remember, around that time.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 28, 2007, 07:27:07 pm
Hmmm, as usual the conclusion wasn't as good as the opener. Nice cop-out ending, some glaring plot holes and a pointless emotional scene in the middle of the action. An archetypal episode it would seem :P.

My friend made the good point of noting that the Dalek controller could have self-destructed the Dalek-humans before they killed two more of an already pretty doomed race, but apprently that didn't occur to a supposedly hyper-intelligent mutant.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 29, 2007, 01:30:29 pm
Tennent's Who seems unsettling similar to Ma-Ti. Everyone else has crazy psychic powers and ray-guns; what does he have? Heart.

Seems kinda lame.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on April 29, 2007, 01:35:01 pm
You underestimate him.  He has two hearts.

And the knowledge of just about every race/species and their weaknesses doesn't hurt either.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on April 30, 2007, 03:21:31 am
Caan could have pretty easily just shot the doctor instead of teleporting off like a wuss...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 30, 2007, 05:06:36 am
Oh yeah... well, the Daleks are mortally afraid of the Doctor so i guess its non-existant emotions just got the better of it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 30, 2007, 09:01:42 am
Also, the half Dalek half humans just looked like humans to me. How come Sek was so different? I liked the begining and basic premise of the episode, but the annoying "Humanity are so loving and would never murder without reason" message, which seems ever-present in Doctor Who, irritated me.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Kcronos on April 30, 2007, 12:59:45 pm
The only reason why aliens haven't destroyed us yet is because of our entertainment value.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on May 01, 2007, 05:24:58 am
You people are trying to point out plot holes and scientific flaws in Doctor Who.

What is wrong with you?

It's Doctor Who for God's sake, plot holes and such don't matter, it's purely the entertaining side of a space man with a time machine.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on May 01, 2007, 05:48:50 am
You people are trying to point out plot holes and scientific flaws in Doctor Who.

What is wrong with you?

It's Doctor Who for God's sake, plot holes and such don't matter, it's purely the entertaining side of a space man with a time machine.

Exactly!

I mean its an alien who collect young human women to travel around in his phone bo... time mach... T.A.R.D.I.S.! How serious do you think this is?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 01, 2007, 10:48:01 am
Also, the half Dalek half humans just looked like humans to me. How come Sek was so different? I liked the begining and basic premise of the episode, but the annoying "Humanity are so loving and would never murder without reason" message, which seems ever-present in Doctor Who, irritated me.

I think they had just had their brains changed or something. Don't ask me.

You people are trying to point out plot holes and scientific flaws in Doctor Who.
What is wrong with you?
It's Doctor Who for God's sake, plot holes and such don't matter, it's purely the entertaining side of a space man with a time machine.
I always ignore all the crazy science and most of the plotholes when i watch. But the controller not self-destructing the human daleks killed the last remaining proper Daleks just seemed stupid. Everything else I can just go with though. Did you here me complaining about how lightning can't transport DNA?

You people are trying to point out plot holes and scientific flaws in Doctor Who.

What is wrong with you?

It's Doctor Who for God's sake, plot holes and such don't matter, it's purely the entertaining side of a space man with a time machine.

Exactly!

I mean its an alien who collect young human women to travel around in his phone bo... time mach... T.A.R.D.I.S.! How serious do you think this is?
Phone Booth?!
Its a Police Box. Anyone can see that. Thats why it has Police box writing at the top and is blue.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on May 01, 2007, 11:09:28 am
Exactly!

I mean its an alien who collect young human women to travel around in his phone bo... time mach... T.A.R.D.I.S.! How serious do you think this is?

I can see were his is going...  :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on May 01, 2007, 01:50:10 pm
I didn't like that episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on May 01, 2007, 04:31:11 pm
You people are trying to point out plot holes and scientific flaws in Doctor Who.

What is wrong with you?

It's Doctor Who for God's sake, plot holes and such don't matter, it's purely the entertaining side of a space man with a time machine.

Exactly!

I mean its an alien who collect young human women to travel around in his phone bo... time mach... T.A.R.D.I.S.! How serious do you think this is?
Phone Booth?!
Its a Police Box. Anyone can see that. Thats why it has Police box writing at the top and is blue.

Police Box.. Phone  Booth... Refrigerator Box... Port-o-Potty .... same thing.  :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Behumat on May 02, 2007, 03:53:25 pm
I think the Daleks and Time lords are branch species sharing a common ancestor, humans.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on May 02, 2007, 03:58:42 pm
In a word, no.  The Daleks showed up some time after the Time Lords, as did humans.  If their our decedents, we would have had to invent time travel and go back to near the dawn of time, the lack of any humans besides those with the Doctor time traveling tells me this isn't true.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on May 02, 2007, 05:39:18 pm
Still, it would make an interesting plot.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on May 02, 2007, 08:17:01 pm
Also if all time lords are eliminated from ever existing shouldn't humans go with them.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: unlamp on May 05, 2007, 11:44:42 am
Have to wait two weeks for the next episode stupid Eurovision song contest.  >:(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on May 05, 2007, 10:13:19 pm
Have to wait two weeks for the next episode stupid Eurovision song contest.  >:(
Damn you Terry Wogan!!!!! Also I kind of liked that episode, although they could have had the same quality episode without having to see so many naked shots of lazarus  :-\ But I liked the message that immortality can be a curse and that it's not the amount of time you have, but what you do with it that counts.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 06:55:37 am
Ah yes, Eurovision. *Waves tiny German flag*

The UK song sucks, as usual.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 13, 2007, 03:51:57 am
All of them sucked, bar the Romanian one. I just switched over to BBC 2 in the end. An alarming number of simerlarities.

42 countries applied for Eurovision. 42 is the name of the episode. Creepy.
It's in real time like 24.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 13, 2007, 08:05:37 am
Ah, so... 42 minutes in the 42nd century eh?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 13, 2007, 08:48:23 am
Yep. I think it's around the same time as Impossible Planet/Satan Pit.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on May 19, 2007, 12:18:30 pm
The outside of a Spaceship seems like a stupid place to put buttons.

And why didn't The Doctor take the crew on the TARDIS?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 19, 2007, 12:19:49 pm
They had enough back-up fuel, and they called the people in charge.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on May 19, 2007, 12:44:37 pm
*Tardis was in superheated vent room.

In the corridor scenes, what did it say next to the numbers? Above each of the doors, I think it said:

"[SOMETHING]
Harbinger
Of
Death"

Or something like that. I'm pretty sure that the bottom word was "Death." Seems like an important detail, but I'm not quite sure what it said.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 19, 2007, 12:46:01 pm
No it was 'Warning. Danger of Death.'
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on May 19, 2007, 12:51:43 pm
That makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on May 19, 2007, 01:03:27 pm
I see, I missed the first minute of the episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2007, 09:30:03 am
A rather fine episode that last one. Can't wait for part two.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on May 28, 2007, 11:55:47 am
^^^(x?) He didn't take them on the tardis because it was locked inside the airvents which were getting hotter and hotter the closer they got to the sun - no way to survive in there. And I don't think it acctually was in real time - the clock seemed slightly too fast and I could've sworn the episodes were 30 minuets...

The first part of the two parter (where dr is human) was brilliant. I'm glad the series is starting to pull itself out of the little shame pit it was digging for itself. I didn't catch the very begining (like, I only saw the very end of the start before the theme tune, if that makes sense).

[spoilers]


OK, if someone gives you a watch and says 'this is part of me, the only person able to get you home', or somesuch, would you reeaaly leave it out in the open somewhere? Especially when you have a chain on your neck that is obviously trustworthey enough for the key to the spaceship...
and I recon the start of the next epsiode will either have the little boy come to the rescue (unlikley), the little girl suddenly realise what Martha was talking about - because that girl seems so stupid at the moment, really - (somewhat likley) or the human doctor will come up with some idea to save all of them somehow with the intelegence he has - even if he dosn't belive it...[/shadow]
[/spoilers]
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2007, 12:01:06 pm
Children? Wha...wha..what?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2007, 01:07:23 pm
And I don't think it acctually was in real time - the clock seemed slightly too fast and I could've sworn the episodes were 30 minuets...

It was real time. An episode is 45 minutes long.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on May 28, 2007, 02:51:39 pm
Ahh, and the 3 minuets were the title and the bit at the end?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on May 29, 2007, 10:24:34 am
Yeah.

That was, in my oppinion, the best Doctor Who of all the three new series.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 29, 2007, 10:26:44 am
I think so too. Despite there being very little action it was just generally freaking amazing.

Oh please let them not continue the trend of making the second part of a two-parter a dissapointment compared to the first.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 01, 2007, 01:29:53 pm
The next (tomorrows) episode is probably gonna be a lot more actiony. I didn't watch the spoilers, though, so I'm not sure. Either way, this has the potential to be an amasing pair of episodes  (as said above). Can't wait to see it, and hopefully they'll milk the getting-out-of-the-situation a bit, unlike with the cybermen, the raxachloicalfallipatorians, the daleks in series 1, etc's far too easy escapes...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 02, 2007, 11:57:12 am
Eh. Can't say I thought too much of this two-parter, to be honest... the ending was just beautiful though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 02, 2007, 02:31:08 pm
What? The whole thing was amazing from start to finish.

That was the finest couple of episodes I've ever seen of anything, never mind just Doctor Who.

Plus, the teaser for the next one is looks tantalising.

Don't blink.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: unlamp on June 02, 2007, 03:06:55 pm
It was ruined for me , I was watching it with one of my step-dads friends and whenever anything happened he laughed extremely loudly even if it wasn't funny. >:(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 02, 2007, 06:28:47 pm
I really can't say I was too keen on the first part, I guess the atmosphere of it just didn't work for me. Second was alright, the ending was incredible though, *spoilers for those who havent watched*

with the kid avoiding death after all, then the doctor and martha visiting him when he was an old war veteran at a memorial service

Elsewise... eh.

Though the trailer for the next one does look pretty good. For some bizarre reason it reminded me of Saw even though I haven't seen it...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 02, 2007, 06:36:02 pm
I got that saw feeling too... Odd, but it also reminded me of going to watch faust in london...
I seriously doubt it'l take the up the whole episode in that room, not even close.


The second part was great. Martha is far better than Rose ever was, the story was realy sharp and far more cutting, and it's getting darker all the time. The punishments rocked (although I didn't get the father's one - they were all ment to be imortal punishments, but the father's and to a less extent the mother's were more like life imprisonment - only lasting a few months max) and so did Smith's flash forwards.
very powerfull, definatly the best 2 parter of the last 3 series.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 02, 2007, 06:55:48 pm
Though the trailer for the next one does look pretty good. For some bizarre reason it reminded me of Saw even though I haven't seen it...

I got that sort of vibe too (even though i haven't seen it either).

I think its the way he says 'Good luck'. It makes it seem like some sort of twisted game. Combined with the fact that not blinking at all is painful and hard to do.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 02, 2007, 10:42:38 pm
Ok i am slowly catching up with the shakespear witch one and then the gridlock future car one. Man i wish they just showed it on normal TV here in the states.

EDIT: Ok got through the 2 Daleks ones in new york. Those were good episodes :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 03, 2007, 05:48:43 am
Ok i am slowly catching up with the shakespear witch one and then the gridlock future car one. Man i wish they just showed it on normal TV here in the states.

EDIT: Ok got through the 2 Daleks ones in new york. Those were good episodes :D

You just liked it because of the tentacle rape. We know your filthy secrets.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 03, 2007, 06:10:24 am
The dalek ones sucked... Really. They all did except for the very first one in the first series, and the end of last series. BBC ruined them all anyway by saying the daleks would be there - they should've kept quiet - and now their trying to put them into every series, when they only need to be there once per doctor, and as a result they're making realy weak story lines.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 03, 2007, 12:55:59 pm
No, they need a Dalek episode per series. It wouldn't be realistic to do them once per Doctor because Eccleston's stint as him was abnormally short. Tennant could be doing it for years and years.
The thing that annoys me about the Daleks is that they're always too thoroughly defeated. Every time they appeared they were almost totally destroyed, and somehow managed to claw back some power. Now theres only *one* left. They're going to have to pull some pretty crazy writing to have a non-corny reason for bringing them back.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 03, 2007, 12:58:35 pm
This is Tennent's last full series. He is only doing half of next year. And after seeing the one I missed yesterday, I finally understand kids. And next week's looks very scary.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 03, 2007, 02:27:27 pm
This is Tennent's last full series. He is only doing half of next year.

Theres no source for that. There hasn't been any indication that he's leaving and he's been signed to do the whole third series (they wouldn't do a regeneration mid series, thats just stupid.)

Plus, if he did leave the currently favoured successor is Matt Lucas, and I don't think any of us want that.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 03, 2007, 05:21:34 pm
No, the first mid-series regeneration will be the one into me, and I will make sure noone is told *when* the regeneration happens, so everyone will be on edge for anything bad that happens to the doctor.

It'l be brilliant!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 04, 2007, 11:57:05 am
[voice=hushed]meet me by the bike sheds tomorrow and i'l give you all the episodes you want. Just make sure you bring your money, man. You know what we do to people who don't have the money, dontya?[/voice]
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 04, 2007, 11:07:29 pm
Ok now i just finished "The Lazarus Experiment" and "42" those were ok. There have been better episodes. Also I can't quite get use to Martha. I miss Rose :(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 05, 2007, 02:48:05 am
Wow, that was even better then the last one. Also, even though the whole episode was good, the ending was like poetry.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 07, 2007, 07:07:40 pm
Ok i saw Human Nature and Family Blood which were the 2 parter where the doctor becomes Human in England.

Is that the most recent or are there more?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Bonemouse on June 07, 2007, 08:59:54 pm
That's the most recent.

Also, I don't mind Martha so much. Mostly because Freema is smoking hot.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 08, 2007, 02:38:03 am
I much prefer Martha to rose, she's less helpless and boring (and hot)

I'm missing two (maybe 3) episodes of this during my vacation. At least when i come back I can watch them all in a row! :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 08, 2007, 05:17:42 am
Ok i saw Human Nature and Family Blood which were the 2 parter where the doctor becomes Human in England.

Is that the most recent or are there more?

Ummm. The thing wrong with your post is that you didn't say something to the effect of: "Oh my God, that(those) was the best episode(s) of just about anything I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 08, 2007, 06:34:47 am
Ok i saw Human Nature and Family Blood which were the 2 parter where the doctor becomes Human in England.

Is that the most recent or are there more?

Ummm. The thing wrong with your post is that you didn't say something to the effect of: "Oh my God, that(those) was the best episode(s) of just about anything I've ever seen.

Thats because i was not impressed with them. In fact that was was rather dull in my opinion. There have been much better.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 08, 2007, 06:49:31 am
What?!?   >:(

Then you must die!  :P

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 08, 2007, 07:20:03 am
I'll get the torches and pitchforks.

You get the crucifix.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 08, 2007, 08:25:34 am
The best part is what he did with the family. We should have more stuff like that in CC.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 08, 2007, 09:17:34 am
I'll get the torches and pitchforks.

You get the crucifix.

Nah, lets throw him into the event horizon of a black hole.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 08, 2007, 09:57:11 am
We'll throw him in nailed to a crucifix on fire (in a bubble of oxygen) with a pitchfork in his face.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 08, 2007, 04:38:25 pm
What?!?   >:(

Then you must die!  :P



It wasn't that good. The 2 parter hybrid one in New York was way better.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 08, 2007, 04:45:57 pm
You did see the ending (of "Family of Blood") right?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 08, 2007, 06:07:40 pm
What?!?   >:(

Then you must die!  :P



It wasn't that good. The 2 parter hybrid one in New York was way better.

Youwhat? Seriously? That was the worst two parter of the last 3 series! It could have been good, but he's now left with one dalek to destroy, the newyork thing was used twice in one row, the hybrid looked #######, they didn't even make good use of the hybrid, the pig men were pretty pointless and malused, and the relationship between DR and M was totaly shunned...

If they had done it as a three parter it may have stood a chance. Possibly. And if they got a special effects artist who didn't learn the trade from the 40s.
Family of blood was perfectly made to fit the two episodes, it didn't have a tacky link between the two, the ending was amasing, the 'aliens' were great (with the exception of the scarecrows, but they made more sense than pigmen) and so on and so forth. The writing of the script showed far more intelegence and credability to the dr's universe.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 08, 2007, 07:36:40 pm
But they never explained how those spore people followed them through time or why. Plus the Doctor falls in love much too fast. Seems like every female around he automatically falls in love with them.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 08, 2007, 07:42:31 pm
The family lives for three months, Martha at one point mentioned one month being left, so he was there for two months.  That's probably more time than he had with Rose all together.

And the Doctor mentioned that they had stolen the technology for time travel.  As for why, I'm guessing that the regenerative abilities of a time lord would allow them to live far beyond that three month life span.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 09, 2007, 03:44:59 am
Yeah, they said several times about wanting to live beyond the lifespan. Thats why I didn't like the father's imprisonment, because - yeah, he's in chains, but he's not gonna live anyway...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 09, 2007, 11:56:29 am
Christ, that was awesome. All woven together perfectly and nasty as hell antagonists to boot.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 09, 2007, 11:59:30 am
Solid episode that. Not as good as it could have been, but good enough that I now feel slightly paranoid.

The bit at the very end showing lots of statues was just calculated to unnerve people... and it worked  :P

I will never look at a statue the same way again.


Also: Captain Jack comes back next week!

Quote
Christ, that was awesome. All woven together perfectly and nasty as hell antagonists to boot.

They would have been nastier if their method of killing you wasn't to give you a nice life in the past  :-\
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 09, 2007, 01:06:45 pm
True, it was a great episode. It's based on a short story in an annual. Not the psych-angels, but the messages from the past. I'll never look at a statue the same again.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 09, 2007, 01:59:46 pm
I liked the little almost-science explanation for why the angels are the way they are.

In hindsight i think this episode was better than I gave it credit, due to me comparing unfairly to the two that preceded it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 09, 2007, 03:30:38 pm
It was brilliant. So well done, everything fitted together, and even when you knew something would happen, it didn't happen how you expected. Annoying that dad tried to rip it to peices during it, making points based off stuff he missed, and I had to shut him up. Also annoying that I had to explain it all to him afterwards. The writing on the wall and stuff.

The video 'conversations' were brilliant, especially the bit about the blob of time, and how they managed to make two totaly different conversations using exactly the same words and timing on the doctors part. Perfect. Although, the pauses didn't make sense, and how he started talking if the guy didn't make notes at the start...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 10, 2007, 06:54:38 pm
These were some of the best episodes of Tennant's run as the Doctor.  You'll also notice none of them made him (as the Doctor) the main character.  Human Nature and Family of Blood both had him playing a bewildered human rather than what he usually does, and Blink didn't make him the central protagonist.  Mabey Tennant is only good when his screen time as the Doctor is limited?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 11, 2007, 05:27:55 am
Nah, Tennant is always good, its just that when he isn't right in the centre of the action all the time then its suddenly in doubt whether the people involved would survive or not. If the Doctor is there then you basically know he's going to pull some insane plan out of his arse and save everyone, it kind of ruins the suspense.

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 11, 2007, 09:47:32 am
I liked this episode alot. Very eerie: Although I don't understand how he got the transcript, because surely the transcript would have needed to exist anyway for him to get hold of it.

Next episode: bets are that the Utopia is a Dystopia.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 11, 2007, 10:41:14 am
I liked this episode alot. Very eerie: Although I don't understand how he got the transcript, because surely the transcript would have needed to exist anyway for him to get hold of it.

Because its a big ball of timey-wimey.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 11, 2007, 11:41:57 am
I liked this episode alot. Very eerie: Although I don't understand how he got the transcript, because surely the transcript would have needed to exist anyway for him to get hold of it.

Next episode: bets are that the Utopia is a Dystopia.

It's a paradox. Time is full of them, according to trime travel theory, and usually their harmless unless two of the same thing some into direct contact with each other, or you change an event in such a way that it would force your current state to be impossible. That's why the doctor and rose couldn't go back and see themselfs in the one where they see her father's death, partly because they hadn't seen it the first time around and mostly because it would cause them to go on a different route.


Also, "every utopia is an inevitable dystopia". Old quote, forgot who by...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on June 15, 2007, 06:14:57 pm
Is Torchwood any good?
Because it's going to be on on Monday down here and I want to know if it's something to avoid.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 15, 2007, 06:23:22 pm
Well, I haven't seen it, but I vowed not to watch it after reading the synopsis of an episode where the main bad guy was an alien gas that fed off 'orgasm energy' and turned its host into a nymphomaniac  :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 15, 2007, 06:29:19 pm
I watched the first and last episodes.  The only nice thing about them is captain Jack, and even he's a bit off.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: sltlamina on June 15, 2007, 09:40:05 pm
Is Torchwood any good?
Because it's going to be on on Monday down here and I want to know if it's something to avoid.

Will it kill you to watch it to find out? If the answer is yes then I suggest not watching it, I can't wait for big brother to end, and I'm pissed that they canceled Jericho.

And they're not showing Dr. Who down here >:(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 16, 2007, 01:17:22 am
Torchwood definately is more adult, what with swearing, blood, sex and being welsh. Plus, a half converted cyberman. Watch it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 16, 2007, 03:37:01 am
But they make Jack immortal, it ruins the suspense entirely.  The only threat to guy is the son of the thing from Satan Pit, and he takes that on single handedly and wins.  Not even any questionable science or figuring out ancient devices, he just walks up to the thing and they both keel over.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 16, 2007, 03:47:26 am
The last episode of Torchwood is amazing though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 16, 2007, 11:55:48 am
New episode!!!!!



Well, who didn't see that coming.

EDIT: Oh, it Mr Saxon, big twist  ::)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2007, 02:52:39 pm
It was thouroughly predictable, but still awesome when it happened.

I like how the new Master is just as manic and enthusiastic as the Doctor, but evil.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 16, 2007, 02:59:01 pm
I knew the master was coming, I knew who he was, but didn't acctually see that twist coming, somehow... Not untill the watch at any rate...

Very nicely done, and a cool (clever, but totaly un-explained, even though it's easy to figure out) regeneration. Not sure I like him as the master though... Iunno... Here's hoping he isn't just in a two-parter...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 16, 2007, 05:41:29 pm
Although, I like that there sticking to these (good) Temporal Mechanics
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 16, 2007, 05:51:12 pm
Hm. Didn't like this episode overall. Seemed like they wasted an episode on an uninteresting plot, a bunch of Waterworld extras making fools of themselves, and a dash of deus ex to complete the mixture. Sure, yeah, great, The Master and all that (though use of the watch was pretty damn cool), but couldn't the episode have been a bit more.. well.. interesting?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2007, 05:54:51 pm
Yeah, it was heavy on exposition and pretty low on actual good stuff, but you have to forgive it that given they managed to convincingly reintroduce both Captain Jack and the Doctor's arch nemesis... besides, next weeks looks pretty awesome, it has robo-balls, posion gas and the President of the USA.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 17, 2007, 05:03:48 am
I still don't understand why jack didn't think to jump onto the tardis again, nor why the master chose to hide right at the very end of the universe as a human, if he didn't want to die. He's a lucky sod that jack and the doctor made it there...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 17, 2007, 05:16:23 am
Maybe he knew that that Doctor would come, or maybe that watch was on a timer and would change him back after a set amount of time had passed, he could then use his TARDIS to go back.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2007, 05:16:55 am
Because Jack was holding the door against the futurekind. If he had jumped on the Tardis then Martha and the Doctor would have been killed.
Also, it seems clear the Master expected someone to mention the watch to him earlier, and that he never tended to end up such an old man.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 17, 2007, 09:20:47 am
Ok, that makes sense, he still couldn't have done much being a timelord, though, as he lost his power of regeneration (which is why he needed the hand of the doctor off jack), and we've been told the tardis is the last one in existance, although there might allways be the chance there is another one laying in the building the doctor is stuck in, which he would need to find (it has a working chameleon chip).

I still think he and the doctor could've switched places XD
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2007, 12:55:21 pm
I don't think he needed the hand to regenerate... I actually have no idea why he kept it. Maybe its part of his plan for the next two episodes.

I also don't think the Master's Tardis is there, because if you recall he was found as a child on a totally different planet with no memory.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 17, 2007, 12:57:56 pm
and we've been told the tardis is the last one in existance, although there might allways be the chance there is another one laying in the building the doctor is stuck in, which he would need to find (it has a working chameleon chip).

What's on Jack's wrist?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 17, 2007, 01:43:17 pm
Ahem, his memory is that he was found on a totaly different planet as a child (face of boe's planet, I belive), however the watch creates a new memory for whoever uses it, remember? A factual memory, not a semantic memory, at that. There is every chance he has a tardis there, albeit on tother side of a bunch of primevil future humans.

I think he did need it to regenerate, because he is unable to do so, and that's why he want's the doctors body (much like the family of blood, but more vampire like) or something. Or, else, I suppose, he could do what jack did and use it to detect if the doctor is near-by.

What's on Jack's wrist?

You mean the space hopper version of the tardis that took jack to totaly the wrong time/place, then promptly broke out of any use before he could get to the right time?


I suppose the Doctor could fix it, but that would be quite an anti-climax...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 17, 2007, 01:47:18 pm
Maybe he needed The Doctors hand to trick his TARDIS into thinking that he's the doctor, allowing him to use it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2007, 02:34:43 pm
Maybe he needed The Doctors hand to trick his TARDIS into thinking that he's the doctor, allowing him to use it.
That sounds like a better idea.

and we've been told the tardis is the last one in existance, although there might allways be the chance there is another one laying in the building the doctor is stuck in, which he would need to find (it has a working chameleon chip).

What's on Jack's wrist?
Thats how I figured they would get back. The Sonic Screwdriver can fix anything.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 21, 2007, 03:54:20 pm
Anyone think the master will pull a dalek and somehow manage to leg it at the last minute in the inevitable confrontation between himself and the doctor? After all he is also nearly immortal.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 21, 2007, 04:32:04 pm
Of course. You can't bring back the master, only to kill him off again.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 22, 2007, 11:06:56 am
BBC have really shot themselfs in the foot with the Daleks. Shot themselfs in a foot with an uzi... A high caliber machine gun... a... a misile launcher of some description. I hate how they've abused the poor things. The Daleks, that is, not the weapons or their feet.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 23, 2007, 12:08:58 pm
Oh My God. That was the best episode of the series. John Simm played the Master brilliantly, and the Doctor's Gallifrey was just amazing. And what will happen?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 23, 2007, 12:16:53 pm
Toclafane = Time Lords. Calling it here and now.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 23, 2007, 12:21:29 pm
They seem a bit - psychopathic- for Time Lords. Maybe Time Lords in the Master's image?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 23, 2007, 04:49:21 pm
I didn't get that, he almost seems to be doing them a favour. Something like the gas things back in the first season, but not phony. It'd be some sort of morality problem with the doctor not to save them, if twer the case...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 24, 2007, 11:49:00 am
Wow, that would be scary. When he said 6 billion I expected him to say something along the lines of "One for everyone" and then each Toclafane went to one person in the planet. That would be creepy.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 24, 2007, 12:29:27 pm
Yeah, I kind of expected them to appear next to everyone like they did with the master, then be nice for a bit before killing everyone...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 24, 2007, 01:18:37 pm
Really patchy episode if you ask me. Some bits were great, but some were really awful.

I think killing off 1/10th of the entire population of the world is going too far for a plotline too. The only way they can get out of it now is by doing some gimmicky deus ex type total reversal, which would be bad.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 24, 2007, 01:24:48 pm
Actually I agree with you KS. They've kinda painted themselves into a corner with this episode. On one hand they could have a Deus ex Machina, on the other they could just let the 10 percent die and get everyone dissapointed because of everyone's failure to act.

Something I don't even want to think about is a corny ending where the Master realizes the error of his ways.

Oh, and in before the master turns on his wife and lets her die.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on June 24, 2007, 02:53:05 pm
Doesn't need to, she's 1/10. Called.

Anyway, plothole time. Why are the military type goons still working for the Master if they know that he's a psychotic alien who unleased hordes of other psychotic aliens to kill 10% of them?

Also, a hundred years is nothing to a Timelord. Why is he old?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 24, 2007, 02:58:18 pm
Because he turned himself human.

Does anyone know why he even had to become Prime Minister?  It seems like he could have just unleashed the Toclafane after staying low for eighteen months, and the Doctor may never have found him in time.

EDIT:  Sorry, somehow managed to forget that the Master aged the Doctor, thought you were referring to Utopia.  Probably because the same thing that allows regeneration prevents aging when it's not reconstructing the body, but either can't detect or deal with it when all that age is piled on in under a minute.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 24, 2007, 03:48:04 pm
Because he turned himself human.

Does anyone know why he even had to become Prime Minister?  It seems like he could have just unleashed the Toclafane after staying low for eighteen months, and the Doctor may never have found him in time.

He's insane and he likes making a statement.

Also, maybe the TARDIS had to be in the sky to open the rift.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 24, 2007, 03:49:00 pm
I really liked this episode, and I hope to god they keep the master, he's brilliant. My bet is that those things are, in some way, the children of the master and that woman. They talk like children even when they go on about killing people.

edit: Oh, and has anyone else got that four beat rhythm stuck in their head?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 24, 2007, 03:52:43 pm
Well, it's a paradox machine they used to get to earth, the TARDIS can only go between earth and the end of the universe, and the Toclafane fear a great darkness.  I'm guessing that the Toclafane are one of the last incarnations of humanity, from so far in the future they've forgotten their origins, transfered into machine bodies to survive the end.  But they couldn't escape last darkness, the end of the universe, so the Master offers them a route of escape in exchange for wiping out the indigenous people.  Leads to a paradox, and, since humans apparently have a huge role to play throughout the course of time, it's big enough to tear apart the time vortex.  Why would the Master want that?  Mabey he thinks it will stop the drums.

Of course that's rampant speculation and I'm probably wrong, but it's self consistent and I might as well take a guess.

And yeah, I've got that rhythm stuck in my head.  *Tap-tap-tap-tap...  Tap-tap-tap-tap...  Tap-tap-tap-tap...*
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 24, 2007, 04:01:26 pm
I think thats it Neo.

Utopia!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 24, 2007, 04:40:00 pm
The master has allways just wanted to upstage the doctor really... By wiping out humanity he will be able to rub it in his face.

Of course, if he were to do that, it'd meen he wouldn't have survived in the end of the universe as a human, and none of that could've happened, so he would end up undoing it all anyway...


Regardless, I'm suprised noone has mentioned at the 4-beat tapping is the bass line of the dr who theme tune...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 29, 2007, 02:10:55 pm
Can't wait until tomorrow (that sounds a little sad)

A friend suggested the Toclafane are humans from an alternate reality that split from ours.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 29, 2007, 02:12:55 pm
It must be something close to the doctor, as his heart's will break finding out what they are.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 29, 2007, 02:31:16 pm
Or maybe it'll just be a big surprise, and he's old so....  :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 29, 2007, 02:53:16 pm
It must be something close to the doctor, as his heart's will break finding out what they are.

The human race is close to the doctor! He was exiled to Earth as has been watching out for them for centuries!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 29, 2007, 05:09:28 pm
I think Utopia from the first part is something to do with it. Remember that the Master could travel between the present and the end of the universe while he had the Tardis, Utopia could be something he built to trap the last humans.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on June 29, 2007, 05:21:36 pm
I agree with Sam on the Utopia thing, there had to be something more to them going there than the Master.  Besides, they used alternate reality last finale.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 29, 2007, 05:27:08 pm
Utopia has to be important, it was the title of an episode, and yet we never actually got closure on what it was.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2007, 02:58:58 am
That makes sense.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 30, 2007, 11:51:14 am
OK, I didn't see that last bit coming.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 30, 2007, 11:58:24 am
..and they all woke up, and it was all just a dream..... F*** YOU BBC!!!!!!

Nice how they've left the door open for the master to possibly come back though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2007, 11:59:09 am
What! The Titanic. Now that is freaking awesome. And it was a human, from Utopia. Funny thing forshadowing, ain't it? And it's a shame Martha left.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2007, 11:59:31 am
Oh! I am too freaking good. Who called it?

Not just the Toclafane, also the Deus Ex Machina reversal!

I was actually quite pessimistic about half way through that episode, but they managed to tie it all up really well.
The Master isn't definitely gone, the Deus Ex was at least believeably pulled off, and Martha won't actually be leaving.

Also, got to love the premise for the Christmas Special.

Beats the pants off the last series finale'.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2007, 12:00:12 pm
The Face of Bo - Now THAT was unexpected.
The Toclafane - Whoever said that thing about them being from Utopia was right!
The Ring - What was that ring? My sister and her stupid friends came in and decided now would be a good time to have a conversation so I have no idea what that green ring being picked up was about.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2007, 12:02:26 pm
The Face of Bo - Now THAT was unexpected.
The Toclafane - Whoever said that thing about them being from Utopia was right!
The Ring - What was that ring? My sister and her stupid friends came in and decided now would be a good time to have a conversation so I have no idea what that green ring being picked up was about.

- I'm seriously hoping that that was just a joke. Indications are that it was.
- I did.
- It isn't explained, but it probably has the Master's essence in it or something, like the watch.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2007, 12:02:45 pm
The Rani (Another evil time lady)? Come to revenge her assosiate. Or the Master has regenerated into a woman.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 30, 2007, 12:03:53 pm
Well I always thought they would do something like that with The Face of Bo, but I thought it would be something simple, like the third time that the Doctor met him would be the first time they met for him. (the Face of Bo)

The Ring - What was that ring? My sister and her stupid friends came in and decided now would be a good time to have a conversation so I have no idea what that green ring being picked up was about.

I think its the ring that lets Time Lords regenerate, but I'm not sure
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 30, 2007, 12:05:46 pm
Oh what the **** did I just watch? Ugh..
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on June 30, 2007, 12:06:00 pm
Use the Force, Doc'!

If the Master wasn't dead, he wouldn't have won. He has to be dead, or else he sucks. This makes sense, as a Paradox Machine was involved.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 30, 2007, 12:07:36 pm
It would explain why the face of boe lived for so long. Also why there are so many legends about him.

Maybe the master turned himself human at the last minute and dumped his time lord essence into that ring, or maybe his wife is pregnent with a half human half timelord child, now that would be interesting.

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2007, 12:07:43 pm
The Rani (Another evil time lady)? Come to revenge her assosiate. Or the Master has regenerated into a woman.

The Rani isn't a good enough character to bother brining back.
The Special-K red nail varnish points to it being the Master's psycho companion.
Maybe it was all planned, and the Master had told her to make sure he died if his plan ever failed, thereby shifting the Doctor's suspicions away from him returning.

Time Lords don't need a ring to regenerate.  :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2007, 12:10:25 pm
I absolutely HATED the part about everyone saying "Doctor." They stole that from Peter Pan! Also, it sucked!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on June 30, 2007, 12:43:27 pm
Okay, let's summarise all of that in a nutshell. Spoilers, obviously.



Master: Okay, I rule the earth and i'm going to kill everyone. DISCO TIME!
Slaves: We're miserable!
Balls: We're evil!
Martha: Okay let's crack open one of these balls to see what's inside.
Ball: HAHAHAHAHA I BET YOU DIDN'T PREDICT THAT... oh wait. Also I just so happen to be this one character you met in the future kthx
Master: I'm going to turn you into Gollum now.
Doctor: Oh bugger.
Matha: *uselessness*
Doctor: By your powers combined, I AM CAPTAIN PLANET!
Master: Oh bugger.
Jack: Where's the reset button on this thing? Ah, here it is!
Deus Ex Machina: I AM BECOME TEDIUM DESTROYER OF ENJOYMENT
Useless, Nameless Bint: Goddamnit why don't I have any reason to be here. *BANG*
Everyone: Oh bugger.
Master: Ha ha, I win. You owe me that $50 dol.... ah what the hell does it matter. *dead*
Doctor: I am a Jedi, like my father before me!
Jack: Contrivance!
Martha: Good Riddance!
Useless Nameless Bint: Merchandising Opportunities!
Doctor: WHAT?!

End episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2007, 12:49:51 pm
I absolutely HATED the part about everyone saying "Doctor." They stole that from Peter Pan! Also, it sucked!

Yeah, that was lame.


Ok, so it wasn't great overall, but are you seriously saying it was worse than the end of the last series? Where Rose failed to die as promised and the woman cyber man cries an oily tear as she guns down the other cybermen and all the Daleks but two get destroyed after pointlessly coming back en mass?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2007, 12:53:28 pm
Okay, so it was better.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 01, 2007, 11:24:46 am
Definatly the best ending of the new series...es

I meen, Rose coming back all "I'm amasingly powerfull" and the soppy romance, not to mention killing all the daleks off? The christmass 'introduction' was promising, but the episode did kind of suck.

Then we had Rose leaving, which was quite powerfull but /The Doctor should never fall in love/. The whole Cyberman/Dalek thing was inspired, but very poorly exicuted, and several parts of the story verymuchunexplained. The vortex stuff, with 3D glasses? C'mon... The highlights were the witty banter between the leaders and the ending with Rose (despite how much it shouldn't have been there) and it was totaly ruined by Catherine Tate regardless.

This time, it was done as a 3 parter (which, as with the Cyberman/Dalek episodes, would realisticly done better as a whole series. I meen, the Master has allready had a whole series, and it worked, so why not do it again?) that felt very rushed but managed to fit all the vital stuff in quite snuggly, and was rather pleasing overall. Very well structured, and felt alot more natural (having flown somewhat through the series, allthough it would be cool to have the drumming in other episodes)
The 'peter pan' moment was very cheesy, but you have to admit it worked. There was nothing to not be understood by it. The psychic network we've been shown last episode (although at first I was reminded of the power of words from shakespeare's episode)  was quite cleverly used, although it did make Mrs Jones seem a little useless... Some brilliant lines though, when she was on deaths door.


Also, CONGRATULATIONS BBC! YOU FINALY DID SOMETHING RIGHT PR WISE! The martha thing was totaly unexpected. That's how the first Dalek should've been, and was almost done well with the Master, too!
I'l be sad to see her go, she was a million times better than Rose and not acctually abused by the script. Nice move keeping her in, although I'd be suprised if she wasn't back come the start of next season...


One thing bugs me; He's caused the titanic to crash, yes? In the episode Rose (1,1), am I mistaken in thinking there was a picture of Eccleson waiting to depart on the Titanic? If so... Might we be getting another 4 doctors style episode? If so, he wouldn't be confused by the sudden appearence of the Titanic, but could be quite a fun episode...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on July 01, 2007, 11:28:30 am
My friend told me she had read somewhere there was going to be two companions next series, if it's true, I wonder who they'd be...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 01, 2007, 12:27:19 pm
Eccelson had Rose and Jack at the same time last series (and I don't meen like that, although Jack  probably hoped for it). Tennant had the same deal for a while, and i'm pretty sure Mickey and Adam both count as companions.

It's not unusual, but he hasn't had any pair of companions for the entire series in these last three, I suppose...

It's pointless to speculate really, but if the girls I know had their way it'd probably be Daniel Radcliffe and Johnny Depp...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 01, 2007, 03:54:16 pm
Martha isn't leaving...

Didn't you see how she gave him the phone? The first episode of the new series is clearly going to involve Martha getting into some sort of trouble with aliens and giving the Doctor a bell.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on July 01, 2007, 06:49:43 pm
Oh! I am too freaking good. Who called it?

I did:
Well, it's a paradox machine they used to get to earth, the TARDIS can only go between earth and the end of the universe, and the Toclafane fear a great darkness.  I'm guessing that the Toclafane are one of the last incarnations of humanity, from so far in the future they've forgotten their origins, transfered into machine bodies to survive the end.  But they couldn't escape last darkness, the end of the universe, so the Master offers them a route of escape in exchange for wiping out the indigenous people.  Leads to a paradox, and, since humans apparently have a huge role to play throughout the course of time, it's big enough to tear apart the time vortex.  Why would the Master want that?  Mabey he thinks it will stop the drums.
Credit where credit is due, Sam.  I did miss on the last bit, but my theory was pretty damn close.

Gotta say, that was wonderfully done, if a little cheesy at points.  I think the only reason the first two finales weren't as good was the writers were looking forward to doing this one.  Everything was a set up for this:  Jack, Boe, the rise and fall of the lady Prime Minister whose name escapes me, the severed hand (wonder what he'll do with that, keep it on display?), and Blink, Family of Blood, Human Nature, and The Lazarus Experiment were just to set up for the Masters return and subsequent plot.

Just one big thing I don't get:  In the Sound of Drums the Doctor wont touch the paradox machine for fear of something going wrong.  Then Jack shoots it a bunch, everything goes back to normal, and the TARDIS is fixed up in no time.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 02, 2007, 02:54:36 am
Oh, didn't notice that... but I came up with it independantly of you  ;)

Uh, question, how was Blink setting up for the finale?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on July 02, 2007, 05:17:13 am
By explaining time as a big ball of wibbley-wobbly timey-whimey stuff.  By the series timeline, the Master did everything before he became a Time Lord again, which may have confused some folks who aren't used to such things were it not for Blink.  Yeah, it's tangential at best, but I like it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 02, 2007, 08:23:16 am
Ah, good point.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 02, 2007, 12:23:58 pm
And now this topic lies dormant for five months?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on July 02, 2007, 12:54:11 pm
The Doctor who topic has collected enough food to last until Christmas, it will find a comfortable resting place and enter hibernation.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 02, 2007, 05:23:07 pm
During the winter it will wake up just once, and gorge itself on turkey and stuffing, then retreat back to its den.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 02, 2007, 08:13:30 pm
Well, let's round it up by singing the theme tune.

SKKRRRRREEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOO....
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 03, 2007, 03:14:40 am
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on July 03, 2007, 09:51:40 am
DOO-DOO-DOOO DOO-DE-DOOOO!

(Du-du-du-dun Du-du-du-dun...)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 03, 2007, 10:12:09 am
DOOOO DOOO DEE DEE DOOOO!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 03, 2007, 12:48:02 pm
*taps the master's beat for the backing beat*
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 03, 2007, 01:08:22 pm
SCHwisCHwisCHwisch!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on July 03, 2007, 01:12:47 pm
*starts to announce the next TV program halfway through*
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 03, 2007, 01:15:50 pm
And... we're done!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on July 03, 2007, 03:41:16 pm
Well, let's round it up by singing the theme tune.

SKKRRRRREEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOO....
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DOO-DOO-DOOO DOO-DE-DOOOO!

(Du-du-du-dun Du-du-du-dun...)
DOOOO DOOO DEE DEE DOOOO!
*taps the master's beat for the backing beat*
SCHwisCHwisCHwisch!
*starts to announce the next TV program halfway through*
And... we're done!

Spamming? Us? Never!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on July 05, 2007, 12:42:37 pm
I think it would be cool if we got the torpal on the show.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 05, 2007, 12:56:39 pm
Who dares disturb the slumber of the Doctor Who Topic?

Get back to the acid mines of Spore CC where you belong.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 05, 2007, 01:29:43 pm
I think it would be cool if we got the torpal on the show.

Isn't there already a clichéd brute-force honour loving stereotype on Dr Who?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 05, 2007, 02:02:05 pm
I think it would be cool if we got the torpal on the show.

Isn't there already a clichéd brute-force honour loving stereotype on Dr Who?

You meen the Doctor when he's ****** off?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 06, 2007, 04:40:58 am
In the US today starts the new season of Doctor Who on scifi channel. Though i have seen a lot of them. I will still watch them again because they are so fun :D Also i will be able to catch up on the ones i have not seen yet.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 06, 2007, 04:49:41 am
You have to watch Family of Blood over and over again until you finally realise its the best episode/ two parter ever made.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 06, 2007, 01:51:20 pm
You have to watch Family of Blood over and over again until you finally realise its the best episode/ two parter ever made.

I figured that out after seeing it once ;P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 06, 2007, 02:21:52 pm
So did most people. But apparently our friend Hydro liked Daleks in Manhattan better.  :(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 06, 2007, 03:31:51 pm
Ah, but he's American, So his opinion dosn't count he's more likley to like the USA one...
Besides, that one almost ruined the whole 3 series. It should burn...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 06, 2007, 04:30:14 pm
I suppose that since the Americans didn't "Save our ass" (sic) in World War One they don't have any reason to care about it and are therefore less compelled to care about the setting of Family of Blood.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 06, 2007, 08:30:22 pm
GODWIN ALERT!

Christ Sam. You should know better than that.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Darth Grievi on July 06, 2007, 08:33:17 pm
Man, there's been an unusual amount of outside references to the RP lately...


Anyway, just started watching on SciFi. My reaction: "Why the heck didn't I find this sooner? *drools*"
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 06, 2007, 08:55:59 pm
No, Godwin's Law. Look it up.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Darth Grievi on July 06, 2007, 09:09:22 pm
*looks it up, then slaps forehead*

D'oh!

*cough*

Are any must-see episodes for the Dr. Who newbie? I don't feel realy lost, but I might be missing something important.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on July 07, 2007, 01:21:18 am
Well, watch Family of Blood and the other half of that two parter, I always liked Blink, too. Watch all the starts and ends of the series', because they were all kinda important.

Just try watch all the new ones.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: sltlamina on July 07, 2007, 03:35:11 am
That episode was so bad I think it gave me cancer.

Well not that bad, it was ok, but not the best (the Shakespeare one, I mean come on...words...science? *giggles*)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 07, 2007, 05:07:46 am
No, Godwin's Law. Look it up.

Hmm, maybe you need to look up exactly who the main players in WW1 were.

Well not that bad, it was ok, but not the best (the Shakespeare one, I mean come on...words...science? *giggles*)

That was a perfectly good episode and a perfectly decent sci-fi concept.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: sltlamina on July 07, 2007, 05:16:59 am
I dunno, it just seemed too...fantasy? Witches? Nah, they ruined it (although I realise that they were aliens), but other that that it was ok.

Next weeks episode look...a lot better.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 07, 2007, 05:23:24 am
But that sort of fantasy fits the era they were in. All the monsters in Doctor who need to fit the era reasonably well. An alien with high-tech armor and lazer guns in the middle ages would be stupid, but the same monster in a contemporary or futristic setting would be fine.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on July 07, 2007, 05:39:35 am
I thought that the episode's plot and idea were fine, but there was just some kind of, I don't know, lagging?
There wasn't much charm, it was kind of flat.

Also, that but where the Doctor says something like:
"Rose would say the most appropriate thing right now."
No she wouldn't! She was utterly useless!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on July 07, 2007, 06:32:38 am
You have to watch Family of Blood over and over again until you finally realise its the best episode/ two parter ever made.

I only really liked the bit near the end.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 07, 2007, 04:35:56 pm
That was good yesterday! A whole 2 and a half hours of Doctor Who! Apparently i totally missed "Run Away Bride" before. But it was fun to see "Smith and Jones" again. :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 07, 2007, 05:12:32 pm
Best episodes to watch for a newbie?

Definatly Rose and Dalek from the first series - the rest are good but those will help set up the story. The second episode might also be good to watch, as would the WW2 two-parter, as that's bloody amasing. The last two episodes, in my opinion, have potential but don't fulfill it, but are very important to the story.

Watch the christmass one, especiailly if you want to go on to watch torchwood later on.

The 4 cybermen episodes from season 2 are all you really need to see story-wise, but arn't particually amasing. The one with K9 is also quite good. The wearwolf one is nessersary for torchwood, and also helps set up the last episodes of both season 2 and 3.

Torchwood would be a good thing to watch to understand Jack, but is rather poorley done, probably because they didn't have nearly as much budget as DW
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 07, 2007, 05:28:38 pm
You forgot The Satan Pit two-parter GCool! Whats wrong with you!?

Also, the Werewolf episode is my favorite of season two, so watch it, mmkay?

Also, Love and Monsters is quite fun, although there are mixed opinions on that one.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Neoadept on July 07, 2007, 06:06:58 pm
I thought Love and Monsters was terrible the first time I saw it because I kept on thinking "that's very nice, but when does the Doctor show up?"  The second I knew he wouldn't for awhile so managed to enjoy it, still didn't like it very much though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 07, 2007, 11:31:08 pm
Watch the christmass one, especiailly if you want to go on to watch torchwood later on.

Let me fix that for you...

Watch the christmass one, especiailly if you are mortally brain damaged to the extent where you actually want to watch torchwood.

There ya go!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 08, 2007, 04:25:32 am
The satan pit was brilliant, but not too relivant to the story, other than the one line the deamon had.

Didn't you watch torchwood?

Love and monsters? Good, but wierd. The ending sucked, though. Well, not *that* bad but...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 08, 2007, 06:12:07 am
Hey, you know what's funny?

I can't remember the names of any of the episodes.

Except Satan Pit and Family of Blood.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 08, 2007, 06:53:11 am
How very un-geeky... I'm ashamed of you!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 08, 2007, 07:19:45 am
Don't forget The Empty Child and Blink. Those are easy to remember.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on July 08, 2007, 09:19:35 am
And 'Dalek', 'Rose', '42' and 'Gridlock' are very easy. They basicly explain the whole episode ;P
'Bad Wolf', 'Tooth and Claw' and 'Fear her' are quite easy too...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 08, 2007, 04:32:11 pm
Fear Her sucked something rotten.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on July 09, 2007, 03:57:26 am
Fear Her sucked something rotten.
What is there something wrong with the doctor saving the world with the power of love?  ;)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on July 09, 2007, 04:09:32 am
Fear Her sucked something rotten.
What is there something wrong with the doctor saving the world with the power of love?  ;)

Yes. He should have been using the power of Earth.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: sltlamina on July 14, 2007, 08:11:15 am
Hooray, todays episode ruled! (grid lock)

...but about The Face of Boe

...N-O-O-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! [/Calculon]
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on July 14, 2007, 08:36:38 am
OMG Reality lag?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on July 14, 2007, 12:16:52 pm
I appears that time travel was involved
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Brutus on July 21, 2007, 02:31:37 am
its a well thought through show but i hate when the docter does those stupid things liike jokingly sings ghostbusters and stuff.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: El_Buro on July 21, 2007, 04:02:22 am
its a well thought through show but i hate when the docter does those stupid things liike jokingly sings ghostbusters and stuff.

You're watching the wrong show, buck.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Brutus on July 21, 2007, 10:53:49 am
no, every so often the docter just makes a complete arse of himself by making a stupid joke or somthing in one episode he marched around with some kind of tool holding it like a gun saying in a stupid voice "who ya gonna call? i aint afraid 'o no ghosts" while the song played on the speakers.

in another episode him and rose were being chased by a creature and they were dojng that old joke of running from one side of the screen to the other through a serires of doors going down a hall way where as they run in and out it changes to them chasing each other and the moster going the oposite way and them chasing the monster etc.

moments like that are just embarrasing.

i liked the last 2 episodes though john simm's performance as the master was lovably melodramatic and its joky and a tiny bit dark sense of humor really shone through in that finale.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Luminar on July 25, 2007, 01:00:03 pm
You need to watch Blink if you watch Dr. Who. Don't not watch it! Don't avoid it, don't miss it, and DON'T NOT WATCH IT!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on July 25, 2007, 01:45:39 pm
Obviously, that's the one episode that I missed.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: operaghost21 on September 15, 2007, 11:21:46 am
You need to watch Blink if you watch Dr. Who. Don't not watch it! Don't avoid it, don't miss it, and DON'T NOT WATCH IT!

I JUST saw blink last night...such a cool episode!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on September 19, 2007, 01:41:38 am
Yeah finally saw blink and it was creepy! I liked that episode a lot! :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Cobra on September 24, 2007, 03:38:26 am
We finally got to the end of the current series in Australia. Seriously though the doctor seems to be just able to do anything.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on October 01, 2007, 02:19:58 am
i live the mast episodes. I watched the 2nd one this last Friday. I can't wait till the 3rd episode!! They are getting better and better.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on October 06, 2007, 01:13:00 am
Can't wait until the Christmas episode. I'll not spoil the ending for series 3 finale.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on October 06, 2007, 05:15:34 am
This was a great episode!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Martham112 on December 26, 2007, 04:55:06 am
The first episode of Season 4 just aired here.

It was callled "Voyage of the Damned". It stars Kylie Minogue and lots of other famous people (over here anyway) like the actor who plays Duke in Tracey Beaker and that comedian woman.

A few of my thoughts.
-Quite a cheesy ending
-A few surprises
-It doesn't really involve Earth as much as the other ones.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 26, 2007, 07:16:40 am
The first episode of Season 4 just aired here.

It was callled "Voyage of the Damned". It stars Kylie Minogue and lots of other famous people (over here anyway) like the actor who plays Duke in Tracey Beaker and that comedian woman.

A few of my thoughts.
-Quite a cheesy ending
-A few surprises
-It doesn't really involve Earth as much as the other ones.

It was a Christmas special and it sucked.

And what was with nice fat people dying? This is Doctor Who! That just doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on December 26, 2007, 07:47:05 am
Meh. I called the survivors pretty well, althought I thought the midshipman would die.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on December 26, 2007, 11:52:26 am
-spoilers, probably-

I think the survivors were a good pick. Very un-generic, although wife's death was obviouse after a cirtain point. The first bit on earth was rather unexpected, but the fact it wasn't too heavily based on earth was good.

There were a few massive, gaping holes in the plot, though, and the bit with the queen was just stupid. She could've jumped out of the truck easily. Also, i'm still not sure exactly why the ship was there in the first place, and I was waiting through the whole episode for whatsername to give the doctor a teleport device to travel straight to the TARDIS, then fly back up, grab the ship with the tractor beam and save the day. Would've been much simpler, and everyone on board would've been safe with the EMP device for the duration.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Martham112 on December 26, 2007, 01:50:48 pm
Possible Spoilers
I didn't notice any plot holes, but I agree with the Queen bit. Like the guards wouldn't question some order for the Queen to leave by someone calling himself The Doctor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 26, 2007, 05:22:25 pm
lots of other famous people (over here anyway) like the actor who plays Duke in Tracey Beaker and that comedian woman.

Those people do not remotely count as famous compared to Kylie Minogue, who is probably the best thing to ever come out of Australia.

Anyhoo, I wasn't overly impressed by that episode. The Crimbo specials really seem to have been going down hill since the first one.
The 'good guys' apart from the old guy, Kylie and the Doctor were all too annoying to be likeable, the Big Bad was lame and unthreatening, the copout death was cheese-tastic.
On the plus side the robot angels were pretty cool, despite their annoying habit of starting every sentence with "Information", and the preview of the next series looked pretty decent. Hopefully the return of Martha and the Ood will cancel out the tooth-clenching awfulness of Catherine Tate.

Edit: Having watched the preview again it looks like they're brining back the Sontarans from the classic series.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on January 10, 2008, 11:37:32 am
Christmas specials do tend to be a bit lacking. When the bad guy revealed himself, me and my brothers all shouted 'Davros'. Shame it wasn't.

I was lucky enough to pick up a children's Doctor Who magazine, and they had a Sontaran as part of a calander. It seems they have made more '2008'. And, Freema Ageman (sp) is amking a return.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on January 11, 2008, 02:29:50 pm
Billy Piper will be guest starring. I'm annoyed, the ending was (pretty) good.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 04, 2008, 01:52:32 pm
It returns tomorow!

The last season of Torchwood was...erratic. The homoerotic overtones were slightly worrying once they were poured into every single episode, at every oppurtunity, ever. Corniness and lack of imagination hit a new high....but then the final episode was actually incredibly moving.....despite being camp Sci-Fi.

But...Eurgh, Catherine Tate. Why do people like her? Her comedy routine is dull and frankly not funny. Sitting waiting for some idiotic ginger girl to repeat an unfunnny catchphrase is apparently now good-enough to win awards and whatnot. Depressing.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 05, 2008, 02:39:00 am
Wait?! Tomorrow?! Doctor Who?! Now?!

?!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 05, 2008, 08:03:35 am
6:20pm, tonight - Saturday the 5th of April - BBC1.

WE SHALL WATCH AND JUDGE.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on April 05, 2008, 11:36:53 am
That was actually pretty good. I found it funny in places and Donna seems to have lost her screamy girl image. The monsters were the cutest ever. The best bit though, I won't spoil for you Americans.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 05, 2008, 12:13:00 pm
Am I the only person who found those things incredibly disturbing? I'm not sure I've ever seen a Doctor Who monster that had me so close to screaming freakout territory. Brr.

The whole thing was cheerful, camp, creepy and disturbing - in other words, a successful Doctor Who episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on April 05, 2008, 12:13:59 pm
I missed it... :'(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on April 05, 2008, 12:27:24 pm
That's why the BBC, in their wisdom, gave us iPlayer. Install the downloader, wait a few hours and bam! Watch it from start to finish without any trouble. It's great. I'd put a link in, but BBC seems to be down. As for next week, you'd think after 900 years of travelling, he'd check at least the year?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on April 05, 2008, 12:33:01 pm
Forgot about that. Gonna go.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 05, 2008, 12:46:02 pm
It was good, Donna's better now.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 05, 2008, 02:51:23 pm
I watched it....it was bizarre. The Fat Creatures were cool.


Best of all, ROSE!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 07, 2008, 09:14:22 am
What was with that Rose bit?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on April 07, 2008, 09:15:13 am
"OMG, Spoiler!"



Happy now?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on April 08, 2008, 01:51:57 pm
Don't you mean "super massive,gigantic,colossal,large spoiler"
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 08, 2008, 02:12:50 pm
It was already known Rose would be making an appearance.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on April 08, 2008, 02:13:33 pm
That's actually true. So will Martha.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 12, 2008, 01:49:38 pm
I really didn't like that episode. In general I dislike episodes in the past.

Next episode looks promising though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on April 12, 2008, 03:07:35 pm
I like Oodles.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Dr. Croccer on April 13, 2008, 05:30:36 am
Missed the episode with the Romans. Any care to tell me what it was aboot (in spoilers, o' course)?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on April 13, 2008, 06:53:41 am
Docter made pompii blow up, killed volcanic golems with water and donna was kidnapped by psycics.

Sorry for bar grammar.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on April 13, 2008, 06:58:31 am
Or alternatively here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/page/item/b009wzbf.shtml?src=ip_mp) and watch it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 19, 2008, 02:17:45 pm
Roman Episode bad; Ood episode good.

Although I love how in Doctor Who Imperialism and Slavery is sort of OK if Humans are doing it; but god forbid Aliens do so.

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on April 19, 2008, 02:51:33 pm
Hehe, I thought so too.

But then again, the doctor always has been very biased.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2008, 06:30:46 am
The Ood episode was pretty good, if a tad predictable.
Tim McInnerny took me by surprise since I'd only ever seen him in Blackadder before. Looks like he's a really versatile actor. Really liked the character he played.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on May 05, 2008, 09:38:50 am
Woot! Killer tomtoms!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 05, 2008, 09:42:35 am
Very funny points in yesterday's episode. "Are you my mummy?". Switching over to Tommy Zoom while Staal was monologing.

And a word on next week's episode: Gorgia Moffat (Jenny, the Doctor's daughter) is Hot.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on May 05, 2008, 11:01:35 am
Yes.

I meh'd though that whole 2-parter.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: blitzonator on May 05, 2008, 12:20:44 pm
I loved that gasmask referance.

"Doctor, what are you doing?"
"are you my mummy?"
"Get serious, this is a war!"

Or something like that.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 06, 2008, 05:57:10 am
Gorgia Moffat (Jenny, the Doctor's daughter) is Hot.

Motion carried.

@always, I would say thats one of the more successful two-parters they've done. Still, the first two-parter of every series is generally a bit of a lame duck (I'm looking at YOU Daleks in Manhattan). Still, not quite up to scratch with the Empty Child and Satan Pit twofers.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on May 06, 2008, 09:32:09 am
I just wish they could have more Cybermen stories.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 06, 2008, 09:34:11 am
You're in luck. This year's Christmas episode features the Cybermen.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on May 06, 2008, 09:51:47 am
yay! /me hopes that at some point that old Cybermen turn up

By the way,how do you that;unless your pulling my leg...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 06, 2008, 09:56:06 am
Unless the Sun has been lying to me in their TV Biz column, no I am not pulling your leg. They were filming in Gloustershire just last month, so it said.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on May 06, 2008, 10:02:20 am
I'm afraid that the Sun is untrustworthy when it comes to information infact from what I found out the sun makes alot of its stories up;so yes you have been had my friend.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 06, 2008, 10:47:44 am
So they faked the photos of David Tennent standing in fake snow? Even for the Sun it's pretty hard to believe.

Oh well, we'll know who's right come Christmas. (Me.)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 07, 2008, 03:54:58 am
I'm pretty sure I remember the sun also saying that the woman that gets sucked out of the window in the last episode of the first season was going to be a new companion. Also, just because they have a picture of David Tennant standing in snow doesn't mean the cybermen will be involved. It could also have been a picture from one of the previous christmas specials. Mmkay?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on May 10, 2008, 11:34:57 am
Much loved that episode.

I think Jenny was the first ever serious change to Dr. Who the new series' have made so far.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on May 10, 2008, 11:38:36 am
I missed that episode, pretty please someone tell me what happened?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on May 11, 2008, 12:53:53 am
Alternatively, you could watch the repeat on BBC 3 and 8pm.

For me I don't think the Jenny was mysterious enough.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Martham112 on May 11, 2008, 01:54:52 am
Or, you could go to BBC iPlayer (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/) and click on the link for Doctor Who.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 07, 2008, 12:38:58 pm
I liked that two-parter!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Person21 on June 07, 2008, 06:05:52 pm
Yeah, but the rest of this series has been crap.  :-\
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 08, 2008, 12:27:09 am
I liked that two-parter!

Agreed it was awesome.

Although Doctor Who, as a series, needs to learn to let people die.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 08, 2008, 02:28:08 am
Technically she did. So did Donna. Only their memories, personality and image was saved, not their consciousness.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 08, 2008, 10:26:33 pm
Yeah, but the rest of this series has been crap.  :-\

I liked most of it. Although with the poison sky one I felt it was stretching even doctor who's silly science. I mean there's no way anything would survive him saving the earth like that!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 09, 2008, 01:17:16 am
Technically she did. So did Donna. Only their memories, personality and image was saved, not their consciousness.

I meant permanentley.

How obvious was it that the woman ends up married to/romantically involved the Doctor?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 10, 2008, 03:08:03 am
But maybe she doesn't.... woOOoooOOOO!

For a while I thought she might be a future regeneration of his daughter, Jenny, then I realised on of the first things she said was that he looked younger than she'd ever seen him and that she'd never met Donna. :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Serinen on June 10, 2008, 03:15:33 pm
I find Doctor Who tends to disappoint me more and more :(.
With the exception of the moving statues episode and a couple of others I've found most episodes boring and predictable. I still watch it because the rest of the family does and it's nice to watch something together :).
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 11, 2008, 03:33:50 am
Hopefully things will improve when Russel T Davies leaves. He did a great job as a producer reviving the series, but he can't write a decent episode worth a damn. So far the only episode of his I've really enjoyed has been Gridlock, which was very clever, I thought.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Hydromancerx on June 11, 2008, 03:35:38 am
Yeah I liked the Gridlock episode too.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 11, 2008, 12:19:44 pm
Russel T. Davies ties Homosexuality into things for no reason, constantly. It grates a little.

At the end of the day, I don't watch Doctor Who for the plotting, or imagination, or the characters. It's just a camp, funny program my family like to watch...and I'm cool with that. That's what it should be. Torchwood was the supposed serious, adult side of the series. (Adult taking on the Davies meaning of 'Everyone is gay'.)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 11, 2008, 12:31:49 pm
You mean everyone is bisexual (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EveryoneIsBi)?

Yeah, I'm getting tired of homosexual refences in RTD's episodes. OK, gay people are not evil, and they've been prejudiced.

Although, apparently, Russel T. Davis won an award by a Christian magazine for Gridlock (it had a Christian anthem in it). He said "Imagine their surprise when a 6-foot bender comes up to the stage![sic]" To top it off, he's atheist as well.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 13, 2008, 10:52:42 am
Sorry about the double post but:

The penultimate episode's name. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/news/080613_news_01)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 14, 2008, 12:00:07 pm
That was a very good episode, but I was disappointed at the lack of an explanation.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 14, 2008, 12:24:50 pm
What, Midnight? Yeah, I found myself asking what happened to the creature, and more to the point, what the heck was it?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: /lurk on June 14, 2008, 02:54:24 pm
That was a very good episode, but I was disappointed at the lack of an explanation.
I feel the exact same way and then the complete opposite. Personally, I prefer my trippy mind-monsters technobabble free.

Although I'm a bit upset that no-one came up with the idea of just sitting down and not saying anything. But then, that might have made for a pretty dull episode.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 14, 2008, 03:10:21 pm
I saw that one with the hath last week. The plot was interesting, but I thought they kinda ruined it at the very end, when the Doctor's "daughter" lives after all. It made it have a very disneyfied feel.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 14, 2008, 04:02:51 pm
That was a very good episode, but I was disappointed at the lack of an explanation.

Seconded.

Next episode look awesome.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 14, 2008, 05:20:03 pm
No, its better with no explanation. I would say thats probably the scariest episode I've seen in a long time, simply because of the total mystery regarding what the thing was, what its motives were and how it operated. Best episode Russel T Davies has ever written, bar none.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 14, 2008, 06:02:33 pm
It still had homosexuality and Rose appearing on a screen though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 15, 2008, 03:54:01 am
Well, you can't expect him to totally change everything, now can you?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 18, 2008, 01:30:33 pm
I didn't think it was too bad but I thought it was kind of odd that they all took no effort to decide to kill each other, until she started going on about whispering hate into everyones mind.

I really really really want the last two of this series to be good and not to bring Davros back just to kill him in the next half.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 18, 2008, 02:59:42 pm
I'm not sure they are bringing back Davros. It does say the plot will involve a new Dalek Empire on Earth, but from what I've read thats just an ancilliary problem, and somehow it leads the Doctor to face some sort of totally different enemy.

Edit: Well that was an interesting episode, I suppose. Now we just have to weather the stupid overblown series finale that Russel T. Davies always pulls out of his ass.

Oh noses! A new enemy ressurected! Its destroying the world. PEW PEW PEW! Oh the Humanity! The World has been totally destroyed, the Doctor will never get us out of this one.
Ker-deus-ex-machina!
Everything is totally back to normal, how did you do it?
"I'm the Doctor, lol."

Audience: "I bet we won't have to put up with this **** when Steve Moffat is in charge."


Double edit: The BBC has confirmed that Davros is indeed returning, which is fair enough, but they seem to be bringing him back as some sort of megadimensional super-entity of pure evil, rather than just a rather genocidal scientist with some funny beliefs about racial superiority. Eugh, they don't half overblow these things.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 21, 2008, 01:25:56 pm
Well at least they've learnt their lesson after the 67943th miraculous survival of the daleks and probably won't completely kill Davros off.

I thought that episode was a pretty interesting what if. With the exception that none of it would have happened because the daleks would have turned everyone into dalek-human hybrids halfway through the last century and conquered the universe.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 21, 2008, 01:29:53 pm
Perhaps they failed for some other reason. :/
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Paradox on June 21, 2008, 03:22:19 pm
Today's episode just confirmed how downhill it has gone, Russell T Davies seems to just be throwing all of his past storylines (and spinoffs) together without much thought or even the resemblance of a well thoughout story arc. It looks like he wants to wall off the past 4 series so no one can touch the storylines after he's left and it wouldn't surprise me if they killed off everyone to do a relaunch

I wish they had done something as simple as show the incidents the Doctor wasn't around to stop didn't happen in the same order as they were shown in the series, time travel doesn't seem to exist when they do a modern episode
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 21, 2008, 05:45:27 pm
Perhaps they failed for some other reason. :/

I think they mainly failed because the human hybrid thing made them rebel against the purestrain Daleks... I guess without the Doctor helping it was just a messier rebellion.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 22, 2008, 12:56:53 am
I've been following the show for a while now, and IMO, I don't think its as bad as people are saying. My favorite element of Dr. Who is the "B-Movie effect" - the same element found in older series like flash gordon, etc. IOW, some corniness can be fun.  :)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 22, 2008, 02:12:41 am
Is it just me, or did that episode just prove we don't need the Doctor over much?

And it was ****. Really ****. An invisible time beetle and lots of crap about Destiny and Donna. What were the motivations of the Chinese Fortune Teller? Unless she just had an overwhelming urge to attach Beetles to Ginger people. I think the episode would have been better if she had been a Dalek/Mysterious Other Enemy agent.

Next episode looks 'Meh'. But impressively 'Meh'.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 22, 2008, 03:02:18 am
I've been following the show for a while now, and IMO, I don't think its as bad as people are saying. My favorite element of Dr. Who is the "B-Movie effect" - the same element found in older series like flash gordon, etc. IOW, some corniness can be fun.  :)

Which makes it jarring when they do one of these annual series finale ultra-blowouts full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

I think its pretty telling that my favourite episode of this season was Midnight, which I would imagine had one of the lowest budgets of the season.

Is it just me, or did that episode just prove we don't need the Doctor over much?

And it was ****. Really ****. An invisible time beetle and lots of crap about Destiny and Donna. What were the motivations of the Chinese Fortune Teller? Unless she just had an overwhelming urge to attach Beetles to Ginger people. I think the episode would have been better if she had been a Dalek/Mysterious Other Enemy agent.

Next episode looks 'Meh'. But impressively 'Meh'.
Yeah, they really could have thought up something better than a big *beetle*.
Also, I wish they'd stop raising the stakes in terms of the series finales. The first one was just the fate of future earth, the next was the fate of modern earth, the third was the fate of the entire human race and presumably a good chunk of the rest of the galaxy, and now we're supposed to belive that something is threatening the entire *multiverse* and only the Doctor can stop it? Bah!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 22, 2008, 03:10:30 am
Maybe he can't stop it and the Whoniverse resets itself from the destruction of the Time Lords, meaning the past four years have been done for nothing, so Stephen Moffat has a clean slate to work with?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 22, 2008, 03:36:36 am
Well, that would hardly be a favourable option.

What I'd like for a change is a nice low-key finale. Just a decent story with an overtly threatening monster, maybe at most putting the fate of the world into question, but not in a "PEW PEW PEW! OH GAWD THE WHITEHOUSE!" sort of way. Sort of like the first series finisher. It was pretty epic, and the earth was certainly in jeopardy, but not so badly that it couldn't potentially be solved without the Doctor's direct intervention (Earth would be caput, but other races and other human occupied worlds could easily mount a resistance against the Daleks).

One thing that occurred to me is that in the screwed up Donna Turns Right universe the Master would still be alive and kicking about in the far future as Dr Yana, waiting to be reminded of his weird phylactery-watch thingy... not sure how that would be significant, but it would be interesting.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 22, 2008, 09:19:45 am

Which makes it jarring when they do one of these annual series finale ultra-blowouts full of sound and fury signifying nothing.


true. Like the episode were the (blanked on the name-short, look like potatoes, have weak spot on back?)s failed to capture earth by gassing it with cars, then proceeded to "ravage this planet!" to spite the Doctor. Yet everything turns out fine anyway.

on the bright side, at least they don't do that every episode like the new BSG (perhaps the worst sci-fi in existence, IMO. I hate that "drift and zoom" camera technique they use  :P)

Then of course there's the "Sarah Jane adventures" spinoff, which completely overuses the slitheen, and inaccurately uses said name to describe the species. Though it does have adolescents in it as main characters, which is a little refreshing.
side note: when I first heard of Doctor Who, the first thing that came to my mind was Doctor Hoovey from "Horton hears a who". :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 22, 2008, 04:04:49 pm

Which makes it jarring when they do one of these annual series finale ultra-blowouts full of sound and fury signifying nothing.


true. Like the episode were the (blanked on the name-short, look like potatoes, have weak spot on back?)s failed to capture earth by gassing it with cars, then proceeded to "ravage this planet!" to spite the Doctor. Yet everything turns out fine anyway.


Sontarans.
I didn't mind that episode all that much, the danger to the earth was grave, but survivable. Even without the Doctor directly involved things still could have been sorted out, just less neatly, and without too much of a deus ex machina.


Edit:

....

....

UN-BELIEVABLE!!!

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 28, 2008, 12:00:17 pm
The last 10 minutes of that episode were god, the rest was really badly paced, horribly acted, and all the special effects were very obvious.

And what was with that "TO. BE. CONTINUED." at the end?

<spoilers! had to go> ~ KS
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 28, 2008, 12:05:49 pm
But... WOW

I don't care about the beginning, the end just blew my mind...

The BBC actually managed to keep something *that big* a secret... I guess the whole davros thing was just a smokescreen for something much bigger :D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 28, 2008, 12:34:42 pm
I wasn't prepared... I never got a chance to say goodbye... :'(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 28, 2008, 01:01:42 pm
So....who do we think is the new Doctor?

I was rather impressed with that episode, but AlwaysWatching is right, the special effects and acting were spectacularly awful for most of it.

I am young and naive, and thus the significance of Davros was lost on me.

Dalek Kaan, the one that was 'naked' - was that the one Rose touched in a Museum way back when?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 28, 2008, 01:05:26 pm
No, Caan was the one that was left at the end of Daleks in Manhattan and was the last surviving member of the cult of Skaro.

As to who the new doctor might be, i can't even begin to speculate. As long as its not Matt Lucas I'm happy. No really, he was actually suggested, apparently, but since I'm betting Steven Moffat was in charge of the casting this time it probably won't be someone stupid. I wonder if The Daughter will turn up in the next episode...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 28, 2008, 01:16:15 pm
No, Caan was the one that was left at the end of Daleks in Manhattan and was the last surviving member of the cult of Skaro.

As to who the new doctor might be, i can't even begin to speculate. As long as its not Matt Lucas I'm happy. No really, he was actually suggested, apparently, but since I'm betting Steven Moffat was in charge of the casting this time it probably won't be someone stupid. I wonder if The Daughter will turn up in the next episode...

If it is Matt, lets hope they don't try any star wars references.
EX:
Traveling companion: What's wrong, Doctor?
Matt as Doctor: I've got a bad feeling about this...

I mean, maybe they could get away with that once in one episode, but anymore times than that...
 :-X (And I'm a sw fan too, so you know it would be bad if a sw fan wouldn't like it ;) ).
How old is he anyway? I know he did the voice over for luke in BFII, but I wasn't able to discern his age.


Longest small print text ever ;)

I remember seeing the ad for that episode (the one with the daleks), but unfortunately I missed it. :(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 28, 2008, 01:26:16 pm
What on Stolen Earth are you talking about Logan?

He was talking about Matt Lucas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Lucas), the comedian. I don't know who you're thinking of.

Squeeling with joy all through the episode. Laughed at points.

I don't think the Doctor will regenerate. Something will happen.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 28, 2008, 01:32:47 pm
What on Stolen Earth are you talking about Logan?

He was talking about Matt Lucas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Lucas), the comedian. I don't know who you're thinking of.

Squeeling with joy all through the episode. Laughed at points.

I don't think the Doctor will regenerate. Something will happen.

Oops! I was thinking of this (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mat_Lucas) Matt Lucas...I overlooked the second "T".

On another note, they could continue it with his "daughter". don't know if they would (would break a lot of the series' rules) but its a possibility with the cliffhanger at the end of that episode...

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 28, 2008, 01:51:33 pm
I would agree with Haseri in that it'll be stopped, and I believed that right up to the point of the beginning of the actual regeneration.

I MUST KNOW WHO IT IS.

Who does anyone hope it is?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on June 28, 2008, 02:27:59 pm

I know who it is.....
It will be probably what happens when  you mess up a Time Lord's regeneration cycle, ie. an evil Doctor,or the 9th Doctor will appair again and finish off the Daleks.

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 28, 2008, 03:11:09 pm
Anyone else notice that the doctors seemed to get progressively younger?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a7/10dr19.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e1/Curseoffataldeath.jpg)

Well, this one doesn't count, but i thought I'd mention him. ;)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 28, 2008, 04:08:56 pm
I wasn't prepaired for the ending. Good to know they kept it secret though... I just figured everyone knew except me because I was in Dartmouth (aka middle of nowhere)

Also, I watched last weeks just before it, which was very cool. So much better than this week's one. The bit where the tardis was flying through the rings and the planets started to appear was shockingly bad. Seriously, I'm doing special effects at uni next year, I shouldn't be exposed to stuff like that! I could do better right now....

But what annoys/confuses me the most; isn't the Dalek energy supposed to stop timelord regeneration, which is why they are his most feared enemy? I know the Beeb are big on abusing the Daleks and basicly making them look like ****, but that's just made them even more pointless by allowing him to regenerate... It should've shot Rose...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 28, 2008, 04:13:15 pm
Can people stop with the sudden rise in tiny text?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Logan Felipe on June 28, 2008, 04:32:09 pm
Nope; unless you want spoilers. ;)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 28, 2008, 04:33:03 pm
This uses less editing thanthis one does, and is more reliable
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 29, 2008, 03:02:25 am
But who in this topic hasn't seen the episode?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 29, 2008, 07:47:22 am
People in the USA? People who were away at the weekend 'cause of good weather?
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Ultimatum on June 29, 2008, 08:08:52 am
Or people who have no TV and no internets,or people who don't watch doctor who or people...I think I'll stop there,
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 29, 2008, 10:08:19 am
Doctor: Davros how did you survive?

Davros: Oh one dalek teleported onto my ship full of daleks just before it was destroyed and for some reason I managed to survive....
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 29, 2008, 03:17:18 pm
To be honest, this is the most believable reason for bringing them all back so far...

Much better than "we were hiding... lol."
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: GCool on June 29, 2008, 04:01:39 pm
*aggrees with Krakow*

In fact, it's probably the least i've been annoyed at them reviving the Daleks in the new series since the first Dalek episode. And so far they've gotten away without screwing them completly over much more than taking away the one reason the Doctor has to fear them...
At least it's not as bad as that manhattan one *shudder*
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 29, 2008, 05:40:28 pm
Yay for tentacle rape!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Werechicken on June 30, 2008, 02:20:38 am
Yay for tentacle rape!
Let us never hear that on this forum again.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2008, 03:03:31 am
Well, the trailer for the next episode aired yesterday at 1:00-ish on BBC One.

Here it is for those that missed it:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jUOa_XxfopM
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2008, 03:32:22 am
UK only. :(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2008, 03:36:12 am
Oh, that's a shame. Well, I suppose it'll be shown on Irish TV3 sometime over the coming week.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2008, 04:09:42 am
I don't think anyone in Ireland watches TV3.

And no, I can assure you it won't be anyway.

It'll be on youtube soon though.
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2008, 04:23:35 am
Then where do you watch Doctor Who then? Wikipedia says it's shown on TV£. Unless it's been lying to me again...
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2008, 04:42:40 am
Um... BBC1?

We have BBC you know. :)
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Haseri on June 30, 2008, 04:46:51 am
Evidently not.  :(
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2008, 06:08:00 am
No, we do, just like in Britain. Even the same ads and stuff. Just the website doesn't work for people over here. ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2008, 06:25:56 am
HARHAR! Take that you Catholic secessionist fools!
Seems you don't like our cruel religious oppression and famine-inducing monoculture policies, but you LOVE our cult sci-fi shows. Who has the last laugh now Eire? Who has the last laugh!?  ;)

Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Tesla on June 30, 2008, 08:22:29 am
:'(

It's true, it's all true! Oh, the shame!
Title: Re: Doctor Who
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 05, 2008, 11:52:49 am
Well, that wasn't so bad.
I was pretty annoyed when the regeneration was just a copout with the hand, but it actually served a good purpose. The supposed 'total destruction' of the Dalek race I can see plenty of ways out of that aren't even farfetched (Caan pulls another temporal shift out of his ass, there were some daleks stationed out of range of the dalek exploding magic or were shielded from it naturally or by design, to give three pretty viable reasons).
I might actually start watching Torchwood if it has Martha and Mickey in it.
Hmmm, what else. The 'human doctor shacks up with Rose' seems like total fanservice, but Its pretty inconsequential anyway.
Oh, and christmas special with Cybermen, looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: /lurk on July 05, 2008, 11:58:08 am
Actually, at my house we called the regenerating-back-into-David-Tennant bit. Bringing back the Cybermen for the Christmas special got my eyes rolling, but at least it can't possibly be as painfully camp as the last one.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Werechicken on July 05, 2008, 12:06:02 pm
I really hope Davros survived, when he started screaming at the doctor I definitely thought that was pretty cool.

I thought the blatant shoe-horning of the other series was a bit rubbish, but other than that it wasn't too bad.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 05, 2008, 12:15:12 pm
Yeah, Davros was great, and I'm sure he'll be back in the fullness of time, hopefully with the same actor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Haseri on July 05, 2008, 01:03:20 pm
Well, certainly a good end to the series. And um, I think I called Cybermen in Victorian London. But no one believed me!

I was a little annoyed when there was no 'What!?' moment, and so I was about to leave when the 'Next time...' came up.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 05, 2008, 02:16:18 pm
I forgot to mention the best part of that episode:

Exterminieren! Exterminieren! Halt! Sonst werden wir Sie exterminieren! Sie sind jetzt ein Gefangener der Daleks! Exterminieren! Exterminieren!

and when you think about it it makes perfect sense :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Haseri on July 05, 2008, 02:21:19 pm
Very true. I think the producer said, on Confidential, that 'You know it to be right.'
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Logan Felipe on July 26, 2008, 04:08:26 pm
I think the U.S. showings are a few weeks behind the U.K.

Sci-Fi just showed The Stolen Earth last night in the U.S. (Friday, July 25th).

As a Star Wars fan, I noted that Davros reminded me of Palpatine...(if only his voice and personality).
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: GCool on July 29, 2008, 03:54:00 am
Davros first appeared at the start of Tom baker's reign (so 1974/5), and Palpatine first appeared in Empire strikes back, released May 1980.

So yeah, no copying ^^


(Damn I know some useless stuff, s'what I get for falling for a starwars fangirl >.>)
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Logan Felipe on July 29, 2008, 07:22:40 pm
Davros first appeared at the start of Tom baker's reign (so 1974/5), and Palpatine first appeared in Empire strikes back, released May 1980.

So yeah, no copying ^^


(Damn I know some useless stuff, s'what I get for falling for a starwars fangirl >.>)

I didn't say they copied him. I said he reminded me of him (having seen SW first).
As a Star Wars fan, I noted that Davros reminded me of Palpatine...(if only his voice and personality).
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Neoadept on August 15, 2008, 08:56:37 am
Or in a sequel sense when it is revealed that he has yet another escape pod.  Because they've killed him oh so many times.

Is anyone else bothered by the idea that Davros was in the same room as a console that apparently controlled all the Daleks, and was still their prisoner?  He designed them, so why didn't he try the magic remote control?  It's not as though him being a prisoner had any real impact on the plot, or the action, or more than a few lines of dialogue, so why not just put him in charge?
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Glacies on August 15, 2008, 12:34:45 pm
Looking forward to the Christmas special: A Man, his tardis, and his serial monogamy.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Cow on August 17, 2008, 03:29:30 pm
Or in a sequel sense when it is revealed that he has yet another escape pod.  Because they've killed him oh so many times.

Is anyone else bothered by the idea that Davros was in the same room as a console that apparently controlled all the Daleks, and was still their prisoner?  He designed them, so why didn't he try the magic remote control?  It's not as though him being a prisoner had any real impact on the plot, or the action, or more than a few lines of dialogue, so why not just put him in charge?

He probably thought that he was in control. Or maybe he enjoyed watching his race delete by themselves. Or maybe the daleks had fail safes against him. (Fail safes are something they never seem to have though.)

P.S. Does anyone else think that Capt. Jack was a gateway to bringing more Americans on the show? Alot of people in the U.S. are tuning in, and to be perfectly honest, I liked the character because he sounded the similar to me. That, and he kicked a lot of ass.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Logan Felipe on August 23, 2008, 11:46:15 pm
P.S. Does anyone else think that Capt. Jack was a gateway to bringing more Americans on the show? Alot of people in the U.S. are tuning in, and to be perfectly honest, I liked the character because he sounded the similar to me. That, and he kicked a lot of ass.

Ironically, I (a Californian) actually started watching the show because I recognized the current doctor's actor after previously seeing him portray Barty Crouch Jr. in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (a british film). I didn't even know there were any U.S. actors on Dr. Who...
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 24, 2008, 03:44:13 am
He's not.

John Barrowman was born to Scottish Parents and raised in Canada. He's just good at accents.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Logan Felipe on August 24, 2008, 10:30:39 am
He's not.

John Barrowman was born to Scottish Parents and raised in Canada. He's just good at accents.

ah.

slightly off topic, what does the west coastal U.S. accent sound like to non-west coastal U.S. inhabitants? Do we really sound nasal?

I've always found it interesting that an individual can't usually identify characteristics of their own accent without third party observation (IOW, "you" rarely think you have an accent because the way you talk is your frame of reference.)
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Cow on August 25, 2008, 07:06:49 pm
He's not.

John Barrowman was born to Scottish Parents and raised in Canada. He's just good at accents.

Ah, well maybe it's because his Canadian accent (Not the "eh" kind) sounds very similar to standard American accents. Like Mike Myers.

slightly off topic, what does the west coastal U.S. accent sound like to non-west coastal U.S. inhabitants? Do we really sound nasal?

I've always found it interesting that an individual can't usually identify characteristics of their own accent without third party observation (IOW, "you" rarely think you have an accent because the way you talk is your frame of reference.)

I dunno. I suppose, without actually talking to native Californians that it is more surfer-esque than Midwest accents (standard), but other than that it is pretty close to the standard Midwestern.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Logan Felipe on August 25, 2008, 10:40:48 pm
The surfer is usually so-cal, Nor-cal is a bit different (for which i'm infinitely glad - I'd go mad If everyone said "bra" to each other all the time).
Though now that I think of it, many people I know do say "dude"...
Can't stand the valley accent either.
I guess its the mountainous/bay area combo I'm referring to. Though my friends and I aren't good representation because we all grew up in different parts of the states/state (one born in georgia, moved to Nevada county, moved to florida for a year or two, moved back to Nevada county; another from northern so-cal, moved to nevada county; one from bay area moved to nevada county; myself lived in bay area for first 7 years, then roseville area for next eight, then Nevada county for the last 3.)

One thing I find amusing however, is that I know several individuals in mid- to northern ca who strong east coast accents for no apparent reason. all those who have it that I know grew up in mid- to northern ca.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Cow on August 26, 2008, 06:50:45 pm
Actually, I say 'dude' a lot too. Now that I think of it, almost everyone I've ever met is from the Midwest (I met 1 or 2 guys who were from California/Nevada, or at least I think they were) , so I'm not very fit to talk about accent. However, according to Wikipedia, good examples of General American would be Walter Cronkite or to a lesser degree Stephen Colbert (Colbert grew up in South Carolina, but practiced to reduce his accent).
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Cobra on October 30, 2008, 02:53:34 pm
I hear David Tennant is finishing up his run as the Doctor. Additionally I also heard that Comedian Ross Noble is being considar to be the next Doctor although I don't know how much credibility there is to that rumor.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 30, 2008, 03:25:47 pm
He's a comedian, not an actor. Also, he's extremely annoying.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Ultimatum on October 30, 2008, 04:57:21 pm
 Ross Noble ..(ecuse the pun) who?...

Title: Re: Doctor Who - Time-shattering Spoilers, be warned.
Post by: Tesla on October 30, 2008, 04:59:25 pm
Pun?
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 30, 2008, 05:02:37 pm
Never mind.
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Post by: Cobra on October 31, 2008, 03:08:10 am
He is a comedian personally I find pretty funny although I have to agree with Krakow in that I don't know if he would make a great Doctor. I can't see too many fan girls drooling over Ross Noble.
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Post by: Haseri on October 31, 2008, 04:13:52 am
David Morrissey is current favourite, seeing as he's playing a future Doctor in this year's christmas special. Apparently other favourites are: John Simm (Life on Mars, the Master last year) and Robert Carlyle (Trainspotting, Full Monty)

Russell T Davies has said he'd love Russell Tovoy (Midshipman Frame from the Voyage of the Damned) to play the Doctor, but what RTD says is about as much worth as a snail's vote in the US Election.

It's a shame to see Tennant go. But hopefully this means there is all the more chance for him to play the Riddler in the next Batman film.[/wildspeculation]

In other news, fourth Doctor Tom Baker is on Have I Got News For You tonight.
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Post by: Logan Felipe on November 03, 2008, 09:51:58 pm
I started watching Dr. Who when I recognized Tennant from the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire film. Funny how that works.

It's a shame to see Tennant go. But hopefully this means there is all the more chance for him to play the Riddler in the next Batman film

He would make a pretty good riddler. He can play erratic characters well. Of course, I never read the comics, so I'm basing my analysis on the TV series and movies made in the 60s (which I prefer over the new films. more funny, less dark).
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Post by: /lurk on December 25, 2008, 03:51:47 pm
What the hell?

That was a Christmas special, it's not supposed to be good! It's supposed to be campy and rubbish so we can all have a good time mocking it!




But instead it just had to go and be pretty damn excellent. Oh well, fair trade.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 25, 2008, 04:01:52 pm
Disappointed that there was no regeneration, but otherwise pleased.

M&S advert voiceover woman is hawt in a milfy sort of way.

What?
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Post by: /lurk on December 25, 2008, 04:03:28 pm
So I wasn't the only one thinking that.
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Post by: Neoadept on December 25, 2008, 04:06:35 pm
Damn you Brits, I just got BBC America to work and sat down thinking I'd finally get some Who less than six months after you do.  They're airing "new" episodes six months after Sci-fi aired them.  How does this make any sense at all?
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Post by: Andrew Ryan on December 25, 2008, 04:28:43 pm
We Americans must like the good doctor more than the British do... Which is kinda sad really.  :-\
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 25, 2008, 05:06:41 pm
No Ryan, you've obviously got the wrong end of the stick as usual.

Neo is complaining that Doctor Who comes to BBC America a long time after it airs on the sci-fi channel.

We in Britain watch it on BBC One, which is the first channel it comes out on anywhere. Y'know, given that the show is actually made by the BBC :P
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Post by: Neoadept on December 25, 2008, 06:24:54 pm
Neo is complaining that Doctor Who comes to BBC America a long time after it airs on the sci-fi channel.
Right sentiment, wrong highlight.  Why is the channel whose entire purpose is to bring British television to America getting this show a full year after it airs, after an American station has already aired them?

*fishes out hook and eye-patch*

Well, I'm off to get a galleon and shanghai some drunks to sail the inter-seas, be back with the haul shortly.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 26, 2008, 04:43:49 am
I expect its because BBC America has to be somehow distant from the main BBC. The BBC in Britain is publicly funded, and I doubt British license payers are funding American tv, so BBC America must fund itself and exist as a semi-independent body which has to bid on shows like every other channel and probably got outbid on the first run of every new Doctor Who by Sci-fi.
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Post by: Tesla on December 26, 2008, 11:59:14 am
I really hated that episode... It was dumb, and the whole drama about the guys dead wife and saving his son was really tacked-on.
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Post by: Cobra on December 27, 2008, 06:36:08 pm
I just watched it last night my cousin accuired it (and that's all I'll say about that) I liked it but are they going to explain why the history books don't mention the Stay puft cyber-marshmellow man stomping through London 150 odd years ago? Especially when Mr Amnesia actually mentioned they will be talking about the event for centuries.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 28, 2008, 08:58:00 am
In a few previous episodes its alluded to that humans are surprisingly good at constantly lying to themselves and explaining stuff like that away.

In Aliens of London a flying saucer ploughs through Big Ben. In a later episode its mentioned that people already considered it a hoax despite all the evidence that it was real.

Though I think by the time of last year's Christmas special people were canny enough to evacuate London because bad stuff always went down on Christmas day :P
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Post by: Cobra on December 28, 2008, 10:44:16 pm
Just seemed stranger on this occasion when they explicitly said they will talk about it for centuries. At least previous aliens attacking london episodes are are hand waved with people pretending it not true at the end.
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Post by: Haseri on January 02, 2009, 08:19:09 am
New Doctor to be announced tomorrow evening (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7807742.stm)

Who will it be?
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Post by: Neoadept on January 02, 2009, 12:35:19 pm
That was, without a doubt, the best Christmas special to come out of the series.  And for once he got rid of a major threat without making it hard to see how'd they come back.  A small army of Cybermen with a mobile conversion factory thrown into something that could take them anywhere or any time?  Harmlessly disintegrated indeed.

I see two possible routes for the "we'll be talking of this for centuries" bit:  One, since they're doing all specials this year one of them will focus on the Doctor having to deal with severe changes to human history.  Or two, they will talk of it for centuries, but talk is just talk.  Everyone who is there will tell the story, but their kids will find it hard to believe, and after awhile it will just be one of granddad's crazy stories.  After all, all evidence of the event was sent elsewhere, it can be explained away by fire breaking out, and no self respecting historian would believe such "nonsense".  By present day all that's left is inspiration for a show about giant robots.

The only problem I have is the Cybermen's apparent inability to shovel coal without the assistance of children.  Honestly, are emotionless tin soldiers uncomfortable with thought of what had to be, at most, an hour's work?
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 02, 2009, 02:16:11 pm
Also Torchwood.

Since I'm a Nerd when it comes to Doctor who...The Cybermen being emotionless(although sometimes the script writer forgets this !) lack logical thinking, SO it would never occur them that they could quite easily do it themselves.
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Post by: Neoadept on January 02, 2009, 02:17:46 pm
Logic isn't an emotion, it's a process.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2009, 02:18:02 pm
I had the same suspicion about the kids. I was assuming that the kids were going to be turned into new generation cybermen or something, or maybe into those cybershades that were never really explained except in an offhand comment by fake Doctor.


Ummm, Ultimatum, logical thinking is always presented as the polar opposite of emotions :P
The Cybermen's weakness has always been their retarded adherence to cold logic and their refusal to accept things like the power of wuv and fweindship.
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 02, 2009, 02:25:37 pm
(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll72/George_b_P/DOH-1.jpg)
What I meant to say was "The Cybermen's lack of emotions in someways limits their overall intelligence,also I guess the writors wanted to show the Cybermen as being so cold and "logical"(I'm using it correctly this time) by using Children as slave labor"
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Post by: Neoadept on January 02, 2009, 02:32:39 pm
Wait.  Maybe it's because they can't bend over to use the shovels.  Cybermen are not very flexible.
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Post by: Haseri on January 03, 2009, 10:09:55 am
Matt Smith. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Smith_(British_actor))

My prediction for the tabloid headlines? 'Doctor Who?'
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Post by: /lurk on January 03, 2009, 10:15:10 am
This is sort of giving the game away that Tenant'll regenerate at the end of the 2009 series, though.

I'd've prefered it if it was a surprise, to be honest.
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Post by: Haseri on January 03, 2009, 10:19:55 am
You mean the four specials right? 'Cause Tennant has been with the RSC, they haven't had time to film a full 2009 series. There'll be an Easter 2009 special, Christmas 2009, and two others shown early 2010. Normal service will resume with Mr Smith in 2010.
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 03, 2009, 11:44:28 am
Matt who?(damn puns)
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Post by: Tesla on January 03, 2009, 12:41:16 pm
Do we really want this man taking care of our Tardis?

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2yy6znq.png)
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Post by: operaghost21 on January 03, 2009, 01:30:29 pm
I just hope to God he gets a haircut first...
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 03, 2009, 02:04:21 pm
I think The bbc is playing a joke on us..I hope...This better be a joke...
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 03, 2009, 04:12:41 pm
I don't like this new Doctor wannabe... his face just looks sort of off, like he's made of rubber or something.
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Post by: Cobra on January 04, 2009, 01:44:04 pm
We wasted a regeneration on that?
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Post by: Haseri on January 05, 2009, 08:15:51 am
Stop being so mean guys. At least wait until he's actually done an episode. And he's got more than a year to practise.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 05, 2009, 08:36:33 am
I'm not passing judgment on his acting yet, and he'll probably be fine.


I just think he looks weird, is all.
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Post by: Glacies on January 20, 2009, 05:43:10 am
My god. That was hilariously campy.

I just watched the christmas special, and by god it was...er...special!

Plenty of "Oh-you've-got-to-be-****ing-with-me" moments. Seriously. Yeah. They had an entire godzilla giant cyberman hiding in the temps. And they had to use the poor widdle childwen for the slave labor, oh noes, just to show what a bad, bad sort of person Mercy & co. is.

...

Still, the episode was pretty funny, and had its good points.
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Post by: DarkDragon on January 29, 2009, 02:57:30 am
I'm only half-way through the 2nd season of the new series but looking at that guy who is apparently going to be the "next" doctor it kinda looks lame...
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 05, 2009, 07:07:53 am
Did someone say Easter Special?

Yes, this is clearly heavily ripped off from Pitch Black. But still looks like it could be cool :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcPczdGWIB8
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Post by: Haseri on April 11, 2009, 12:24:23 pm
Well that was a fun episode.
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Post by: Tesla on April 11, 2009, 01:40:03 pm
It just didn't do it for me...
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Post by: /lurk on April 11, 2009, 02:50:17 pm
That's totally what you'd say if you met The Doctor, though.
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Post by: Cow on April 15, 2009, 07:57:04 pm
Umm... Did this come on in the U.S.? Why didn't I hear about it?!  :'(
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Post by: DarkDragon on April 18, 2009, 04:36:32 pm
I'm watching it now.
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Post by: Haseri on May 29, 2009, 10:43:33 am
Matt Smith's assistant revealed (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8073734.stm)

Yeah...she's hot.
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Post by: /lurk on May 29, 2009, 02:59:38 pm
Hey, she's from the real world!

Can we swap which one's The Doctor and which one's the assistant? Matt Smith is clearly far too southern to be The Doctor.
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Post by: Met on June 06, 2009, 07:27:28 pm
So, I watched a Doctor Who episode for the first time.

The episode was titled "Blink"
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Post by: Haseri on June 07, 2009, 01:15:42 am
Ah, excellant choice, sir. May I recommend other episodes from Stephen Mofat?
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Post by: Met on July 18, 2009, 09:45:17 am
I tried to change Matt Smiths wikipedia page to have a somewhat more... appealing image.

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/MS.jpg)

They weren't too fond of my initiative.
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Post by: Glacies on July 28, 2009, 10:18:57 am
So when's the next bleedin' episode coming out, anyway?
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Post by: Haseri on July 29, 2009, 02:34:52 am
November-ish.
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Post by: Met on December 06, 2009, 05:06:10 pm
So... who else watched the Waters of Mars?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 06, 2009, 05:17:26 pm
Oh, I did. Really liked it, especially near the end when the doctor went mad with power. I Actually thought captain whatsername was going to shoot him in the back and the last two episodes of Tennant's Doctor would be him struggling with regeneration induced trauma and having weird hallucinations about the Time Lords
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Post by: Logan Felipe on December 15, 2009, 03:51:57 pm
When is/was it on in the U.S.?
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Post by: Met on December 15, 2009, 08:48:22 pm
Haha. Silly Logan. Relying on television for his Doctor Who fix.
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Post by: Vetro on December 26, 2009, 09:54:12 am
So... did anyone manage to see The End Of Time: Part 1 yet?
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Post by: Haseri on December 26, 2009, 12:50:55 pm
Yes. Yes. The Return Of The Timelords. (Seriously a huge spoiler)
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Post by: Tesla on December 27, 2009, 06:53:37 am
It was terrible. :/ The narrative was everywhere, every minute was cringe-inducing and it was boring.

Russel T Davies has a very weak grasp on the concept of time travel. When he meets the Ood, they're having dreams of something happening "now" in the 21st century, and when the doctor travels back, he's too late to stop the master's return?
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Post by: Neoadept on December 27, 2009, 02:13:52 pm
To be fair, time travel on the show seems to have a history of being pretty imprecise.  As I recall, he missed getting Rose home on time by an entire year.  From that perspective, being only a day late is remarkably close to the mark.


It was pretty bad, though.  It seems like this was supposed to be one special, and they decided to stretch it into two after it was written.  Just look at the chase sequence.  Running.  Faces.  Running.  Running.  Faces.  Girders!  Running.  Faces.  Girders.  Girders.  Running.  That's filler, is what that is.  In fact, I get the feeling that the entire Master is very hungry plot was glorified filler.  The Doctor could have gotten there right at the resurrection, he and The Master could have had their little chat, and the Mercenaries could have shown up then.  You could even get the gramps bits in before and after he gets to the resurrection place.

The ending, however, made up for a lot of it.  The Master, as usual, was hilariously nefarious, once he got fed, at least.  Hopefully we get to see more of that in part two.  And hopefully the Ood will do something.  The entire species seems to exist to give cryptic warnings without doing anything.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 27, 2009, 05:05:13 pm
HE IS AWAKE.
AND WE WILL SLOWLY WALK TOWARD YOU.
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Post by: Met on December 29, 2009, 12:04:10 am
Finally saw it. I don't see what was so bad about it though.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 29, 2009, 11:28:01 am
Yeah, I liked it. It was a solid enough special with a cool cliffhanger.
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Post by: Haseri on December 30, 2009, 02:27:11 am
They had a bit of dialogue from the next one on Radio 2 last night.

Let's just say that Doctor/Master shippers will have a lot more fuel for the fire.
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Post by: Met on December 30, 2009, 02:58:57 pm
Didn't the writers initially intend them to be brothers?
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Post by: Snork on December 30, 2009, 03:01:33 pm
Never knew that! Would have been cool, but at the same time just as cliche.
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Post by: Haseri on December 31, 2009, 03:06:18 am
Didn't the writers initially intend them to be brothers?

You honestly think that'll stop shippers?
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Post by: Met on January 01, 2010, 06:21:31 pm
Saw part 2. Enjoyed it.

I was worried about Matt Smith... but he'll do.
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Post by: Haseri on January 02, 2010, 01:32:32 am
We shall see at Easter.
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Post by: bad Karma on January 02, 2010, 09:48:45 am
He looks more like a slash fiction doctor than a regular one.
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 02, 2010, 01:02:41 pm
I defiantely enjoyed the 2nd half,far better then the 1st.The 2nd half was a fantastic send off for the 10th doctor.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tPte4rQMpI-Next season's trailer!!!

The 11th doctor strongly reminds me the 5th doctor but he may turn out to be as unpopular as the 6th,I hope not.
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Post by: Snork on January 02, 2010, 01:33:03 pm
I miss David.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2010, 05:04:52 pm
Saw part 2. Enjoyed it.

I was worried about Matt Smith... but he'll do.

My sentiments exactly.

"I don't want to go." nice last words.  :D

New series looks slick as hell. I think Stephen Moffat has already trimmed some of the corny Russel T. Davis fat.

While probably simultaneously injecting a whole lot of new corn.

Also, is it just me or does it look like the Tardis is getting a new wallpaper as well?
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Post by: Cow on January 02, 2010, 07:03:04 pm
I miss David.

Me too. Matt Smith looks like he belongs in a Twilight movie. In the worst possible way.
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Post by: Neoadept on January 02, 2010, 08:43:12 pm
Well, that was certainly a good end for Tennant.  I don't think I'll ever be able to look at Smith without thinking "He didn't want to go!  :'(", but hopefully I'll get by it.

As for all the Smith hate, I'm going to at least give him a chance.  I hated Tennant after the last regeneration, but he turned out great.
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Post by: Haseri on January 03, 2010, 01:49:10 am
And the companion looks to be the hottest one yet.
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Post by: bad Karma on January 03, 2010, 09:18:07 am
Wouldn't that girl from that libary be the new companion?

Or is that at a later date?

And finally, I'll be the first one to say that it looks more action based, with the soldiers and the doctor giving a man an uppercut...
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Post by: Haseri on January 03, 2010, 10:22:02 am
River Song is going to be in a few episodes, I hear.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 03, 2010, 01:05:27 pm
And the companion looks to be the hottest one yet.

I wholeheartedly agree. Yowza.
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Post by: Tesla on January 03, 2010, 02:00:01 pm
River Song's gonna be in the first episode of the new series. (Or second)

In the library episode, she mentions that they first met at the crash of the Byzantium. In pictures of the actors on set, you could see a crashed ship called the Byzantium.

Saw part 2. Enjoyed it.

I was worried about Matt Smith... but he'll do.

My sentiments exactly.

"I don't want to go." nice last words.  :D

New series looks slick as hell. I think Stephen Moffat has already trimmed some of the corny Russel T. Davis fat.

While probably simultaneously injecting a whole lot of new corn.

Also, is it just me or does it look like the Tardis is getting a new wallpaper as well?

I don't think Moffat's nearly as corny. :P

And yeah, it is. I think I saw pictures of it a while ago...
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Post by: Met on January 03, 2010, 11:34:28 pm
I don't think I'll ever be able to look at Smith without thinking "He didn't want to go!  :'("

You do know that the reason we're getting a new doctor is that Tennant announced he was leaving the show in 2008?
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Post by: bad Karma on January 04, 2010, 07:06:25 am
Yeah, He liked it so much, he left before it stopped being fun or something.
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Post by: Neoadept on January 04, 2010, 07:24:33 am
I don't think I'll ever be able to look at Smith without thinking "He didn't want to go!  :'("

You do know that the reason we're getting a new doctor is that Tennant announced he was leaving the show in 2008?

Oh, I'm well aware.  But I'm talking about the character, not the actor.

You do know that David Tennant is not a 900 year old time traveler?
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Post by: Snork on January 05, 2010, 05:56:43 am
You do know that David Tennant is not a 900 year old time traveler?
NO. YOUR LYING!
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Post by: Cow on January 07, 2010, 05:27:36 pm
You do know that David Tennant is not a 900 year old time traveler?
NO. YOUR LYING!
Quote
YOUR LYING!
Quote
YOUR
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Post by: Snork on January 08, 2010, 01:01:19 pm
You do know that David Tennant is not a 900 year old time traveler?
NO. YOUR LYING!
Quote
YOUR LYING!
Quote
YOUR
I'm confused do Extrapolate.
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Post by: Tesla on January 08, 2010, 01:41:34 pm
It shoulda been "you're."
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Post by: Snork on January 09, 2010, 01:36:49 am
:-[
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Post by: Cow on January 09, 2010, 09:23:19 am
:-[

 8)
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Post by: operaghost21 on January 09, 2010, 06:16:22 pm
:-[

 8)

 :D
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 10, 2010, 12:24:46 am
Hey, cut it out. I keep thinking someone has posted something worthwhile in this thread but its just emoticonfaggery.  >:(

The new Doctor hits a Dalek with a hammer.

Now we must ask ourselves... is that ever a good idea?
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 10, 2010, 07:51:20 am
Nope.

Unless the said hammer is powered by the hand of omaga,like Ace's baseball bat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkq4uJXArm0
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Post by: Krakow Sam on January 10, 2010, 08:07:22 am
Eeew, eighties.
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Post by: Haseri on April 03, 2010, 06:16:52 am
It's back tonight!
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 03, 2010, 02:41:50 pm
Wheeeeeee!

That was awesome!

New Doctor doesn't suck, awesome new companion. More crazy-excellent stuff.
I'm not sure if I miss David Tennant or not, but I certainly don't miss Russel T Davies' writing.  :D
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Post by: Tesla on April 03, 2010, 03:45:59 pm
but I certainly don't miss Russel T Davies' writing.  :D

Thank you...

I listen to this podcast where, whenever they bring up Dr Who, they start talking about how much they'll miss Davies.

I was starting to wonder if I was the only one who hated his stuff.
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Post by: Met on April 03, 2010, 10:32:55 pm
Just watched it. Enjoyable.

As I said at the End of Time. "He'll do."
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 04, 2010, 05:27:22 am
PRISONER ZERO WILL VACATE THE HUMAN RESIDENCE OR THE HUMAN RESIDENCE WILL BE INCINERATED.
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Post by: bad Karma on April 05, 2010, 11:37:18 am
Hey, cut it out. I keep thinking someone has posted something worthwhile in this thread but its just emoticonfaggery.  >:(

Gotcha.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 10, 2010, 01:26:07 pm
Holy hell.

That was some episode.
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Post by: Haseri on April 10, 2010, 01:27:44 pm
I found it a bit all over the place at some points, but yeah, it was good.

Daleks next episode!
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Post by: Person21 on April 10, 2010, 04:23:09 pm
I didn't think that was bad, if a bit predictable.

And hurrah! It looks like yet another "Daleks Come Back Through Contrived Means Only to be Defeated by the End of the Episode" episode next week. WW2 setting might be interesting though.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 11, 2010, 04:59:39 am
We can only hope Steven Moffat will have finally put the Kibosh on the ridiculous overkill Dalek defeats of the Davies years.
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Post by: Brandonazz on April 11, 2010, 07:59:42 am
So I had a dream last night.

Apparently, the Doctor has a doctorate while the Master just has a master's degree.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 11, 2010, 08:08:58 am
Oh my god, it all makes sense now!

From this we can also infer the existence of The Bachelor.
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Post by: Haseri on April 17, 2010, 11:39:54 am
So...

Victory of the Daleks indeed.

I must say these new Daleks are very terrifying and now that have a way of bringing the Dalek's back without pulling something out of their a**.
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Post by: Person21 on April 17, 2010, 12:10:15 pm
And hurrah! It looks like yet another "Daleks Come Back Through Contrived Means Only to be Defeated by the End of the Episode" episode next week.
Or not.
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Post by: Haseri on April 17, 2010, 12:11:06 pm
Well, they sort of come back through contrived means.
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Post by: Met on April 18, 2010, 02:49:23 pm
So...

Victory of the Daleks indeed.

I must say these new Daleks are very terrifying and now that have a way of bringing the Dalek's back without pulling something out of their a**.

Oh they certainly pulled something out of their ass.

I enjoyed the episode anyway.
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Post by: Luminar on April 18, 2010, 04:36:37 pm
Fundamental difference between Doctors 10 and 11:

10ant:
Doctor: Daleks. Daleks?! It's impossible! I'M GOING TO YELL AT YOU!!!!
Companion: What are you doing?!
Doctor: *pouts*
Bit Character of the Day: He has suffered much. The firey ragey burning flaming firey ragey rage in his heart.

Smith:
Doctor: Daleks?! AAAAAARGHHH!!! (http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2129/emotblack101m.gif) *goes to town on it with a hammer*
Companion: What are you doing?!
Doctor: Had a bad day. You know how it is.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 19, 2010, 10:28:23 am
Eccleston's response was screaming like a girl and then making fun of them >_>
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Post by: Hydromancerx on April 19, 2010, 02:34:38 pm
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/109/c/4/Amy_Pond_by_Hydromancerx.jpg)

I finally saw the 2009 Christmas special and the 11th hour. It inspired me to draw this fan art.
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Post by: Met on April 20, 2010, 10:20:10 pm
It doesn't give me the overwhelming sense of "Loose Scottish Girl" that I get when I see her character on the show.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 21, 2010, 02:44:23 am
Loose Scottish girl? She hasn't once downed two bottles of Lambrini and hit someone with half a brick while vomiting the remains of a fried mars bar over a small child.
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Post by: Haseri on April 24, 2010, 11:12:37 am
And so, Stephen Moffat shows us once again that he is the high octane nightmare fuel attendant.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 24, 2010, 05:11:40 pm
Oh man oh man! Fantastic.

Can't wait for part two. :D
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Post by: MNIDJM on May 01, 2010, 05:30:25 pm
Saw part two, pretty good.
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Post by: Person21 on May 01, 2010, 05:39:43 pm
Who the hell though CGI angels was a good idea?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 01, 2010, 06:12:22 pm
Yeah, it kind of ruined the effect having them move right there in front of us :(

I kind of liked Neo's idea that the audience at home counted as observers for the purposes of the Angel's quantum lock.
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Post by: Tesla on May 02, 2010, 09:54:47 am
Especially since they were moving so slowly, and didn't stop being made of stone. I thought they moved really fast and only turned to stone when you saw them?
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Post by: Luminar on May 03, 2010, 06:06:16 am
The idea of a sapient, malicious image embedded in the memory center of your brain killing you from the inside is pretty awesome though.;
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Post by: bad Karma on May 03, 2010, 01:31:16 pm
I kind of liked Neo's idea that the audience at home counted as observers for the purposes of the Angel's quantum lock.

The fourth wall is missing so you can see the angels!
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Post by: Met on May 03, 2010, 06:14:18 pm
I kind of liked Neo's idea that the audience at home counted as observers for the purposes of the Angel's quantum lock.

The fourth wall is missing so you can see the angels!

It happened a few times in Blink as well.
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Post by: operaghost21 on May 04, 2010, 11:12:10 am
I know BBC America is a few weeks late but I just saw 'Victory'...the new Daleks are ugly  :-\
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Post by: Neoadept on May 04, 2010, 06:11:52 pm
Remember:

Daleks have no concept of elegance. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu1_AguulJ8#t=0m5s)
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Post by: operaghost21 on May 05, 2010, 02:17:16 pm
best scene. ever.  8)
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Post by: Luminar on May 05, 2010, 03:07:13 pm
go go dalek rangers, them mighty multicoloured daaaa-leeeeks
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Post by: operaghost21 on May 05, 2010, 06:38:25 pm
Alpha, recruit a team of Daleks with ATTITUDE!
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Post by: bad Karma on May 06, 2010, 09:10:04 am
Looking at gummy bears is kinda weird now.
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Post by: Haseri on May 08, 2010, 10:56:11 am
If I had to sum that episode up into a single word, I'd say:

Fanservice.
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Post by: Luminar on May 08, 2010, 07:43:12 pm
Some old trout with a gobful of needles is fanservice? Do me a lemon, will ya.
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Post by: bad Karma on May 08, 2010, 08:05:19 pm
I see it now. Stephan moffat (And his nightmare factory) Has made the whole story Arc a major part of the stories, instead of one with a few vauge and weak referances in it. (Bad Wolf ark for example.) Daleks most definately.
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Post by: Tesla on May 09, 2010, 09:15:38 am
I really liked that episode. I want to see more like it. It was funny but also serious and kinda creepy, and I liked how well they explained the perception filter and the not being visible in mirrors.
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Post by: Neoadept on May 09, 2010, 01:58:57 pm
I didn't like that episode.  I hope they don't make more like it.  It was annoying and also disappointing and full of plot holes, and I hated how they didn't explain anything.

Why did the son explode from a hand mirror when everyone else just sizzled?  Where did Amy get sunlight from when cloud cover was total at this point?  Why did mummy have to take off clothes that were clearly part of the perception filter?  Why did the filter keep working after she'd taken it off with her clothes?  What happened to all the fish dudes chilling in the canals?  During the sword fight the broom held up against the first few blows without losing a single bristle, what was up with that?  Why could the Doctor open the front gates with his screw driver, but not the trap door or any other door?  Why did the manservant grab all the gold he could and run at the end when it looked like he was well aware of their plans the entire time?  Why---

*Head asplodes*

Next week's looks good though.
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Post by: Tesla on May 09, 2010, 02:15:01 pm
I thought most of those things. Then said "**** it" and just enjoyed it. :P
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Post by: Haseri on May 16, 2010, 09:31:18 am
I think yesterday's episode could have been improved if they didn't explain what was causing the dreams, kept it ambiguous, like in Midnight.
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Post by: bad Karma on May 16, 2010, 12:34:55 pm
I think DR Who is Ruined FOREVER!!! (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuinedFOREVER)
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Post by: Haseri on May 16, 2010, 12:40:20 pm
Care to elaborate?
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Post by: Cobra on May 26, 2010, 07:50:15 pm
When the doctor was climbing the tower both me and my cousin both said where is Ezio when you need him. Also all the Eagle locations weren't marked on the map of Venice.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 28, 2010, 01:33:53 am
I just finished part 2 of the angel one. I am looking forward to watching the Venice Vampire one next.

Overall I like the new Doctor. Too bad the previous Doctor could not have been with Amy Pond for awhile before switching. I bet they would have been really crazy together.

Over all it has the same core to the series but just a more updated appearance I think.

I wonder if they will ever bring back the Doctor's daughter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenny_%28Doctor_Who%29) for this season.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2010, 01:46:04 am
Not for this season. But they'll bring her back eventually :P
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Post by: Cobra on May 30, 2010, 04:40:41 am
So wait if the Doctor new who the dream lord was why didn't Just have them kill them selves in both worlds at that point they could have been out of danger and back to normal in 5 minutes instead the doc keeps it to him self for no real reason?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 30, 2010, 06:06:44 am
Because he still didn't realise that both worlds were dreams. Just knowing that you're being tormented by an evil version of your psyche doesn't actually tell you exactly which worlds are dreams and which are real.
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Post by: Tesla on May 30, 2010, 07:33:52 am
Ugh. Next episode with Van Gogh. Why are there so many episodes set in totally uninteresting times and places this series?
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Post by: Haseri on May 30, 2010, 07:35:03 am
Where do you want thm to go?
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Post by: Tesla on May 30, 2010, 11:54:14 am
Um.

Somewhere interesting. An alien planet, the distant past/future, hell, I'd love an episode where they explore the TARDIS.
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Post by: Cobra on May 30, 2010, 05:27:39 pm
Because he still didn't realise that both worlds were dreams. Just knowing that you're being tormented by an evil version of your psyche doesn't actually tell you exactly which worlds are dreams and which are real.

but as he says at the end The dream lord has no power in the real world so he can only manifest in a dream this should have been a big enough clue.

Also they went to the distant future they checked out the starship England on the back of a giant Space whale. As for the past how far back do you want them to go? Venice was already 500 years in the past.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 30, 2010, 05:42:59 pm
By manifest he meant manipulate physical objects. I think the point where he realises is when the Dream lord works the TARDIS console to get them away from the cold star.

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Post by: Cobra on May 30, 2010, 06:13:10 pm
Alright I'll let that slide for now.
 
Although I don't know why he even accepted a cold star as a possiblity as I dont see how the star would be colder than the actual vacuum of deep space which would be close enough to absolute 0. It's not like it is the 1st time sci fi has done the we are a drift in space the power is out and we are getting cold they hardly needed to justify it with a cold star. Now I am just nit picking though.
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Post by: Tesla on May 31, 2010, 10:47:47 am
Also they went to the distant future they checked out the starship England on the back of a giant Space whale. As for the past how far back do you want them to go? Venice was already 500 years in the past.

Maybe to an interesting period of history. :P

I want more alien planets. D:
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Post by: Cobra on May 31, 2010, 04:33:06 pm
Yeah but they haven't done alien planets since they started re making this series if they do visit another world it's in one that is colonized by humans anyway.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 31, 2010, 06:30:41 pm
S'called having a budget.
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Post by: Tesla on June 01, 2010, 06:07:04 am
Yeah but in the other series' they've had more episodes set on spaceships or future human worlds. And never 4 Earth episode in a row. :/
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Post by: bad Karma on June 01, 2010, 09:18:48 am
Yeah but in the other series' they've had more episodes set on spaceships or future human worlds. And never 4 Earth episode in a row. :/

I think DR Who is Ruined FOREVER!!! (http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwho/4845838.html)

fixed link. click it.
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Post by: Ultimatum on June 01, 2010, 09:38:06 am
That list is  stupid.
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Post by: Cobra on June 01, 2010, 05:34:19 pm
Yeah but in the other series' they've had more episodes set on spaceships or future human worlds. And never 4 Earth episode in a row. :/

The 1st place number 11 took Pond was to the future to see England in space. Also there was that whole Angels in that asteroid spaceship thing. As I said they haven't done a purely alien story line since number 9 it's always some point in humanities timeline.
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Post by: Met on June 01, 2010, 07:38:52 pm
That list is stupid.

I have to agree.
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Post by: Person21 on June 05, 2010, 01:42:47 pm
"We have to get to our time machine before we run out of time"

Also, why didn't the thing eat its victims? As far as I know blind people still have to eat.

Still, episode was actually pretty good. Or at least a lot better that god awful Silurian two-parter, or the fat rainbow Daleks(EDIT: And while I'm complaining, better than the CGI weeping angels).

EDIT: Was also pretty nice to see the Doctors stupid racist jumping to conclusions at the beginning being wrong.

Also, near the end I was kinda hoping they might keep Vincent on as a companion for a while, it'd be nice to have someone from somewhere other than modern day earth.
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Post by: Haseri on June 06, 2010, 02:39:18 am
Who knows, maybe they didn't send him back right away. Why stop in just 2010?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 06, 2010, 07:35:39 am
Eh. this episode feels like filler. As I expect the next one sort of will be as well, but I like the sort of low key style of episode one that the next one looks to be so I'm not too bothered. The finale should be interesting though.
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Post by: Met on June 09, 2010, 06:59:06 pm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Pronunciation_Vincent_van_Gogh.ogg
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2010, 01:28:04 pm
Wuh? Juh?... Nuh! Fuh?

There... no teaser. How is this going to be resolved? ARRGH!

Fuhjuhwuhnuhbuhguh!
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Post by: /lurk on June 19, 2010, 02:14:09 pm
SURPRISE!

Turns out that's the end of the series.
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Post by: Person21 on June 19, 2010, 05:23:22 pm
Right. The last half of that was pretty good. Made up for the crap first half.

God damn it. Now I'm actually optimistic about Moffat being able to pull off the second half without it sucking.

Oh well, if it does suck, I'll just rewatch The End of Time. Just to remind me that it could be worse.
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Post by: Haseri on June 26, 2010, 11:40:31 am
So, what did people think?

I liked it. Then again, I like everything until people point out flaws to me.
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Post by: bad Karma on June 26, 2010, 02:16:15 pm
I actually liked how the Pandoricle and Gladio-Roryauton affected the mythology of the human race in such a way. Sadly, the world seemed a little too advanced, IMO.
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Post by: Person21 on June 26, 2010, 05:02:10 pm
Now I'm actually optimistic about Moffat being able to pull off the second half without it sucking.

:)
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Post by: Logan Felipe on June 27, 2010, 01:38:33 pm
The Big Bang was brilliant, I thought. It really tied the whole season together. Especially the "remember what I told you when you were seven" bit.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on July 01, 2010, 11:54:52 am
I think the best bit was:

"Mercy!"
"say it again"
"MERCY!!"
"One. more. time."
"MERRRCCCYYY!!!!"
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Post by: Haseri on July 14, 2010, 01:19:02 pm
...Because he's a fictional character?
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Post by: Logan Felipe on July 14, 2010, 02:51:47 pm
Matt Smith used to play Soc-er-"Football" at the non professional level, but sustained an injury, resulting his switching over to a full time acting career. hence the gratuitous scene in the episode.
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Post by: bad Karma on July 17, 2010, 06:04:58 am
Matt Smith used to play Soc-er-"Football" at the non professional level, but sustained an injury, resulting his switching over to a full time acting career. hence the gratuitous scene in the episode.

That and the world cup shout out in the first place.
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Post by: Logan Felipe on July 17, 2010, 02:25:43 pm
Matt Smith used to play Soc-er-"Football" at the non professional level, but sustained an injury, resulting his switching over to a full time acting career. hence the gratuitous scene in the episode.

That and the world cup shout out in the first place.

D'oh!

That hadn't occurred to me. : P

I guess it wasn't so gratuitous after all...


After re-watching seasons 1-4, I've realized how bare bones the character development was for the Doctor in season 5 was by comparison. Amy and Rory are developed well enough, but the Doctor seems to exist only to provide witty remarks and facepalm-worthy puns (with only a few, brief exceptions). Part of this could be due to the fact that Matt Smith volunteered via audition, whereas David Tennant was asked; it seems like Moffat doesn't really know how to write for Smith yet. Hopefully the Christmas special and the next season will show signs of improvement.

Though with news like this, I seriously have my doubts. (http://www.tvovermind.com/cable/doctor-who-tv-news/doctor-who-christmas-special-script-goes-missing/25458)

"It's enough to make you want to start a campaign to mail flash drives to the BBC or something." (http://io9.com/5575625/did-steven-moffat-lose-the-script-for-doctor-whos-next-episode)
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Post by: Logan Felipe on July 19, 2010, 04:55:13 pm
Not to mention anything out of order, but who else noticed this?

(http://i31.tinypic.com/4hwkuu.jpg)
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Post by: Luminar on July 23, 2010, 08:29:14 am
"Mercy!"
"say it again"
"MERCY!!"
"One. more. time."
"MERRRCCCYYY!!!!"

Couldn't really jive with that. Am I supposed to be impressed by someone making their quarry debase themselves and then killing them anyway? Even if pulled off on a Dalek that's rather tasteless and certainly not heroic.
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Post by: Logan Felipe on July 23, 2010, 11:18:21 am
"Mercy!"
"say it again"
"MERCY!!"
"One. more. time."
"MERRRCCCYYY!!!!"

Couldn't really jive with that. Am I supposed to be impressed by someone making their quarry debase themselves and then killing them anyway? Even if pulled off on a Dalek that's rather tasteless and certainly not heroic.

I've always disliked River Song. Not as much in her first appearance, but definitely now. In some ways, she's turned into a replacement for Jack Harkness (mainly in how they both deal with situations), and has an incredibly overinflated opinion of herself.

Additionally, they really haven't convinced me that this is someone that the Doctor would consider marrying; the whole "opposites attract" argument aside, they just sort of inexplicably start acting like an old married couple in "Flesh and Stone".

A couple comments about future seasons; according to moffat, season 6 will have more of river song, and focus on who caused the tardis to explode. At some point in the future, Jenny might make an appearance. Hopefully they'll wait until at least season 7, at which point Matt Smith will have become much more established in his role, and the writers will have gotten the hang of writing for him.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on July 23, 2010, 11:25:27 am
"Mercy!"
"say it again"
"MERCY!!"
"One. more. time."
"MERRRCCCYYY!!!!"

Couldn't really jive with that. Am I supposed to be impressed by someone making their quarry debase themselves and then killing them anyway? Even if pulled off on a Dalek that's rather tasteless and certainly not heroic.

Well, she WAS locked up in space-jail.
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Post by: Tesla on July 23, 2010, 11:57:30 am
Yeah, I hate River Song.
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Post by: Gungnir on July 25, 2010, 07:55:33 am
I kinda enjoyed seeing a bit of remorseless murder of evil aliens. There's always so much negotiating and bluffing, it seems. Just shoot the things.
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Post by: Met on July 25, 2010, 11:59:26 am
I use spoiler tags on easy to fill in words because I believe people aren't capable of filling in the blanks.

Really, why would someone be in this thread if they haven't seen these new episodes? I don't enter it until I've seen the latest episode... and it even says in the thread name... "Spoilers, be warned."

I doubt she killed the Doctor. That doesn't leave room for any future episodes, now does it? Perhaps a companion?
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Post by: Met on July 25, 2010, 12:29:31 pm
I don't remember any specific lines about it being the most important person in history, but I haven't seen a relevant episode to that in over a month.

I doubt it would be such a big deal if she kicked off a new regeneration.
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Post by: Logan Felipe on July 25, 2010, 01:11:02 pm
"A very good man. Best man I've ever known."

That was the quote.

I kinda enjoyed seeing a bit of remorseless murder of evil aliens. There's always so much negotiating and bluffing, it seems. Just shoot the things.

Except what makes the show awesome is that they don't "just shoot the things". If that's what I'm looking for, I'll watch star wars...
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Post by: Cobra on July 25, 2010, 07:37:00 pm
She killed the best man come one it's obvious the season ended on a wedding who ever was Rory's best man your days are numbered.
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Post by: Ultimatum on July 26, 2010, 11:28:57 am
Hey Cobra,please use commas.
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Post by: Met on July 26, 2010, 01:08:29 pm
Hey, Ultimatum. Please use spaces... and your commas correctly.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on July 28, 2010, 11:11:05 am
I finally saw the season finally of Doctor Who. I was happy with the whole season even if I had to wait a bit longer to see it on BBC America.
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Post by: Luminar on August 04, 2010, 02:47:48 pm
"A very good man. Best man I've ever known."

Wonderful chap. All of them.
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Post by: bad Karma on August 05, 2010, 09:35:48 am
It seems that Matt Smith got a bad doctor.

The Doctor has gone from angsty man with a god complex to a mini psycopath.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on August 05, 2010, 09:51:06 am
Man, I think people miss the point of the Doctor a little.

He isn't meant to be NICE :P

All the Doctors so far have all been jerks, to a greater or lesser extent.
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Post by: Haseri on August 05, 2010, 09:52:16 am
Or rather, an alien.
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Post by: Ultimatum on March 30, 2011, 10:46:17 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vIsQ25Krq8

 :)
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Post by: Hydromancerx on March 30, 2011, 11:36:28 pm
Yay! 23 April 2011 for BBC America. What a happy day before Easter! :D I have been missing Doctor Who and wondering when it would ever come back. So yay!
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Post by: Kishmond on April 19, 2011, 03:37:29 pm
Just got done archive binging on everything from 2005 and I have to say while I liked the tenth doctor a lot this latest season is by far the best of them all. Earlier seasons I almost considered skipping episodes to get to the finales which were at least a little interesting, but I loved every one of these.l
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Post by: Tesla on April 20, 2011, 07:43:19 am
Elisabeth Sladen, AKA Sarah Jane Smith, passed away yesterday morning at 63.

:(
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Post by: Haseri on April 20, 2011, 07:48:10 am
I think the most shocking thing is the suddenness of it.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 20, 2011, 08:13:31 am
 Tom Baker's blog post on her death (http://www.tom-baker.co.uk/pages/content/index.asp?PageID=159)
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Post by: Haseri on April 23, 2011, 10:50:04 am
EEeeeeeeeeee.

It's back.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 24, 2011, 08:49:02 am
Hmm, pretty good episode. Interested to see where it goes.

Also, I was wondering when Doctor Who would tackle the whole 'Grey' phenomenon.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 24, 2011, 08:51:31 am
I've heard people comparing The Silents to Slender Man,whatever the hell that is.
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Post by: Haseri on April 24, 2011, 08:53:16 am
This. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSlenderManMythos)
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Post by: Gnoll on April 26, 2011, 04:44:57 pm
Just watched for the first time a couple days back.

...
















...now I know what all the fuss is about.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 30, 2011, 10:53:52 am
HRRRRRRNG. New episode SOOOO GOOOOOOD  :o
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Post by: Haseri on April 30, 2011, 11:45:32 am
How many Silents (what's the plural?) have you killed today?
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 30, 2011, 01:53:43 pm

Can't remember.

Also,the little girl regenerating at the end,who is she and what will she become?

Let the speculation begin!
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 30, 2011, 02:21:50 pm
Looks to me like the little girl is Amy's daughter, and travelling in the TARDIS while in the womb gave her a time-head.

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Post by: Tesla on April 30, 2011, 02:39:19 pm
Maybe she's Jenny from ages ago? >_> Seems like a long shot but she's the only female timelord in the new series.
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Post by: /lurk on April 30, 2011, 07:21:52 pm
HRRRRRRNG. New episode SOOOO GOOOOOOD  :o

Well sure, except for all the HUGE GODDAMN PLOTHOLES.



I'm not even talking about the stuff about Timehead, that just wasn't part of the plot at all.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 01, 2011, 04:40:42 am
What plot holes?


I don't want to sound like an apologist but its the first episode in a season of a show about time travel. I'm fairly confident any unanswered questions are going to be clarified later in the season.

A lot of people thought the Doctor wearing his jacket when he briefly turned up and talked to Amy in the tail end of the angels episode was a continuity goof but they turned out to be wrong. Timey wimey man. Timey flippin wimey.
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Post by: Tesla on May 01, 2011, 06:05:55 am
While I really liked the episode, I'm slightly bothered by the similarity between the Angels and the Silence. It really seems like Moffat has just thought up another quirky villain gimmick for the new series.
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Post by: /lurk on May 01, 2011, 07:03:24 am
Basically the resolution to the main plot has a massive plot hole. So everyone just beats up the Silence when they see them - but the only reason the Silence didn't have weapons in the first place is because they "didn't need them." THEY NEVER FIGURE OUT THAT THEY NEED THEM NOW And then there's the implication that no-one had ever just shot one before.

Also, considering the given reason for doing so, why would they even bother with the Apollo program in the first place instead of just hassling the cosmonauts? So that the Doctor can beat them and because it's more iconic for the viewer, certanly not any logical reason.


On the other hand it was still an okay episode. It would have just been better if the Silence actually did something.


Edit: The second episode's "Oh no wait I'm not pregnant" moment. They might as well have just cut the wah-wah trumpet straight into the soundtrack.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 01, 2011, 09:16:26 am
I think its perfectly likely someone has shot the Silence before, but that doesn't really do anything in and of itself. Just kills one Silent, then everyone forgets it ever happened. As for why the silence didn't use weapons, well, for thousands if not millions of years their primary (possibly only) means of getting anything done is telling someone else to do it. Its probably fairly ingrained into their culture and collective psyche that they can achieve anything they want just by sort of lurking on the peripheries and occasionally telling someone to go start a space program. Thats probably a mindset which would take quite a while to break out of. Enough time that the initial human 'rebellion' would kill a good portion of their number. Then what? Well, they could try and arm themselves, but humans attack them on sight. Where are they going to get the guns from? Basically the only options available to them at that point would be to go somewhere where there are no humans to flip out on them and try and build up industry and technology from scratch, or they leave earth and try the same trick on some aliens.

The events of the episode would certainly be sufficient to get them out of earth's hair for a goodly amount of time. We know they aren't beaten for good because they are going to appear again later in the season.
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Post by: /lurk on May 01, 2011, 09:31:24 am
They didn't seem to have any problem killing people in the first episode, they were just bad at it.

And come to think of it, if they already had spaceships to get them to Earth and then to run away again why would they even want human technology in the first place? They could just steal an equivalent spacesuit from someone else if they really want one so badly.
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Post by: Person21 on May 01, 2011, 12:26:29 pm
Well, the silence still exist in the 21st century, so they probably took some measures to defend themselves. But that doesn't matter, as they won't be able to manipulate people any more as everyone will attempt to kill them on sight.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 08, 2011, 06:12:41 am
Well, that was a bit meh. Next episode was written by Neil Gaiman so its got to be good, right?
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Post by: Met on May 08, 2011, 11:58:36 am
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/OmegaMet/ood.png)

From the preview.
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Post by: /lurk on May 08, 2011, 12:27:11 pm
So hey you remember that pirate the kid cut while they were hiding in the magazine?


Because Steven Moffat sure didn't.
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Post by: Person21 on May 08, 2011, 12:31:43 pm
Eaten by the eye patch woman.
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Post by: Haseri on May 08, 2011, 12:38:20 pm
You mean Steve Thompson, the writer.
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Post by: Met on May 10, 2011, 03:36:00 pm
You know, I did wonder what happened to him near the end, but I think I saw him among the group at the end.

Stay out of threads with spoilers if you haven't seen the episode. I'm not babying you with spoiler tags.
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Post by: Logan Felipe on May 10, 2011, 10:44:53 pm
The fact that the child is shown right after the doctor's on-board pregnancy test seems to me a pretty strong hint that the child is Amy's daughter. This would also explain why the child's room was filled with pictures of Amy; perhaps she's traveling through time somehow, after being separated from Amy at birth for some reason? How they're going to explain how traveling on the Tardis gives one's offspring Gallifreyan biological traits will be interesting to see...

Noticing her hair color, however, a thought occurred;
What if the child turns out to be a young Doctor Song?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 11, 2011, 12:57:58 am
John's Dad is Problem Sleuth!
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Post by: Neoadept on May 14, 2011, 11:24:52 am
Well, that was big, and complicated, and so so sad.  There's a word for that, what's the word?

And you know what else?  It was also a bit of fantastic.
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Post by: /lurk on May 14, 2011, 12:03:07 pm
Well, that was big, and complicated, and so so sad.  There's a word for that, what's the word?

Johnny Five is alive!


Yes, that was an excellent episode.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 15, 2011, 12:25:18 pm
I sort of hope Idris appears in a subsequent episode but I won't hold out too much hope.
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Post by: Met on May 15, 2011, 02:42:40 pm
Anyone else think of Cassandra when watching the preview for next week?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 16, 2011, 05:34:23 am
I thought more of Sontarans.
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Post by: Kishmond on May 18, 2011, 07:26:30 pm
Funny, that's what I thought. "Those look like Sontarans." They weren't.
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Post by: /lurk on May 21, 2011, 03:36:08 pm
This episode was fine, but I wish they could decide of they want to do a serious clone plot or a stupid evil doppelganger plot.

I mean, we're getting a stupid evil doppelganger plot, so all that time establishing that the clones were "real people" with all the same memories was totally pointless because they're actually psychotic plasticmen.

Also I like the way electricity is basically magic in Doctor Who.
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Post by: Haseri on May 22, 2011, 02:21:27 am
Ah, but it wasn't just any electricity. It was solar tsunami electricity.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 22, 2011, 03:27:24 am
Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that episode. Heavy-handed sci-fi moral drama backed up with bland low-budget darkened corridor sets which Doctor Who has been rightly mocked for in the past.

Also I agree with lurk, it didn't know what it was trying to be. The characters flip-flopped all over the place, one minute they were all ready to cooperate and remembering their 'real lives' and then because ONE idiot kills one of them they suddenly unanimously decide its time to kill everyone and call it even. BLUH BLUH.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 22, 2011, 03:34:18 am
I've heard people comparing it to last seasons The Hungry Earth.
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Post by: Clayface on May 23, 2011, 02:33:12 am
I've just started watching this show, thanks to Inklings suggest
on episode 3 of season 1 of the new series,
Dont' think i'm gonna watch the old ones
on episode 4 now,

I think it'd be cool if they had like a home base somewhere / sometime in time, that they could return to / keep all their **** at / pick up companions on the way and they could live there,

i feel bad the gas people had to die,  they would have thrived well on a gas planet,
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Post by: Person21 on May 23, 2011, 03:22:22 am
Episode was pretty poor. The clones just had to have their big speeches about how they're human too, even if it meant everyone acting stupid. Made more annoying when they unanimously decided to turn evil. Lots of build up between the doctor and the flesh (the Doctor being familiar with the technology, the actual goo in the tank being alive), which I hope gets some pay off next week. Though I liked that it gave Rory something to do other than act as the crews redshirt. And there were parts were I thought we might get something good out of it, like near the end when they were teaming up. Overall, who's idea was it to let the guy who wrote Fear Her do a two parter?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 23, 2011, 05:48:00 am
The Fear Her guy was responsible?

Ok, that explains everything.

I think it'd be cool if they had like a home base somewhere

It's called the TARDIS.
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Post by: Clayface on May 23, 2011, 06:03:59 am
thats too small to be a home base, and it moves around with them

them calling that home base would be like me calling my car a house
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Post by: Person21 on May 23, 2011, 08:35:14 am
thats too small to be a home base

:I
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Post by: /lurk on May 23, 2011, 10:10:50 am
I've heard people comparing it to last seasons The Hungry Earth.

Honestly I don't want to believe it could turn out that bad.

Fear Her

fuuuuuuuuuu~
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Post by: Future Neoadept on May 23, 2011, 10:15:49 am
thats too small to be a home base, and it moves around with them

them calling that home base would be like me calling my car a house

At last count, the TARDIS contains a library, a swimming pool, a scullery, three bathrooms, a rather large wardrobe, guest rooms, upwards of thirty archived control rooms, and an unknown amount of corridor.  It is also capable of discarding and growing rooms as the situation demands.

This is all on top of being the most sophisticated technological marvel in the entire universe, which is itself full of everything the Doctor has ever picked up in his travels.

Having another base wouldn't just be superfluous, it'd be wasteful.
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Post by: gec05 on May 23, 2011, 11:36:27 am
I don't even watch the show and even I knew the fact that the space inside that thing is quite large.
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Post by: Clayface on May 25, 2011, 01:13:31 am
It hasn't discussed the size of the tardis yet really, other than it has a wardrobe in it. I've only ever seen the main room, and i'm about half way through season 2
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 25, 2011, 04:47:59 am
You forgot it has/had at LEAST seven squash courts Neo. Also important.
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Post by: Gnoll on May 25, 2011, 01:12:27 pm
Can't wait for the next episode!
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 26, 2011, 11:31:18 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDuORTbSRXM
 :)
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Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2011, 11:33:56 am
re: The Ending: FFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuu.....
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2011, 11:41:24 am
Yeah, the ending was pretty intense yo.

But the rest of the episode was just awful. Awful awful awful.

SO BAD.
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Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2011, 11:43:09 am
The pile of gangers was pretty damn creepy.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2011, 11:46:35 am
Shame it was in such a monstrously dreadful episode.

AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.
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Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2011, 11:48:57 am
Just watched the Prequel on the website. Again: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuuu...

And the trailer. I think next week will more than make up for today's, last week's and the pirate one. I can't wait.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 28, 2011, 11:51:27 am
Re the preview for A Good Man Goes to War:..The hooded figures had human hands.. which means its not the silents.[/spoiler
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Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2011, 11:53:08 am
Definately not the Adherents of the Repeated Meme either, for the same reason. But according to the trailer, they get laser/fire swords.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2011, 11:53:46 am
Just watched the Prequel on the website. Again: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFuuuuuuuuu...

And the trailer. I think next week will more than make up for today's, last week's and the pirate one. I can't wait.

Oh for sure. Looks crazy. I trust Stephen Moffat can do a better job of unashamed big budget action than Russel T Davies ever did.

I can now see why this two parter and the pirate episode were so damn cheap. Because Neil Gaiman and this two parter sucked up all the budget like greedy sponges of money which when squeezed spray a foamy jet of pure entertainment directly into your face.

Speaking of which

*sprays Haseri in the face with a water pistol loaded with diabetes*

Hee hee hoo.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 28, 2011, 12:03:22 pm
OK,I get it now,another guess.

The eyepatch lady is a timelord who has infiltrated the US government and is planning to use his daughter as a weapon(the trailer had the doctor saying "Your going to use her as a weapon!" .
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2011, 12:21:42 pm
No Ulti that is silly. >_>

First off, if she was a timelord I think there would be a little more indication of it. I did originally think she might be one, but thats because I thought the hatch she was looking out of was a disguised Tardis that was intersecting with various objects. Now we know thats not true, well who knows.

And also, why would they need to infiltrate the US government? We are talking all of time and space here, the US government is insignificant.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 28, 2011, 12:35:11 pm
OK,she's not a time lord,she is Prisoner Zero.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 28, 2011, 12:40:16 pm
And John's Dad is Problem Sleuth.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 28, 2011, 12:41:37 pm
And I don't who Problem Sleuth is.
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Post by: Luminar on May 28, 2011, 01:24:02 pm
Wait, you liked The Doctor's Wife and thought Rebel Flesh/Almost People was dreadful? Are you like my evil twin or something?
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Post by: Tesla on May 28, 2011, 01:32:18 pm
You're my evil twin too then.

The characters were just so flippy-floppy and underdeveloped in that two-parter.
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Post by: Luminar on May 28, 2011, 01:36:59 pm
Actually you know what on further reflection the story is too hamstrung by inconsistent characterization even if I liked the premise.
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Post by: Haseri on May 28, 2011, 01:38:46 pm
Although part of Jennifer's motive was revealed when she said she could remember all the deaths. Although they should have said that last episode.
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Post by: Person21 on May 28, 2011, 03:40:58 pm
This part was defiantly better than the first, if only because of the Double Doctor stuff. Though the "leave one version of everyone alive at the end to avoid having to deal with anything awkward" ending that most doppelgänger episodes do annoyed me, especially after their big "We're human too" speeches.


EDIT: Though I did like it more than the Silurian episode last series
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Post by: /lurk on May 28, 2011, 05:49:12 pm
STUPID.

STUPID.

STUPID.


Normally I like to point out all the plot holes but everything in this episode was so damn stupid I'd be copying 90% of the script.
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Post by: Clayface on May 28, 2011, 07:55:46 pm
Just finished Season 3,
the season 2 season finale had a lot of plot holes
like a retarded amount
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Post by: Luminar on May 28, 2011, 09:33:38 pm
Oh yeah, the company who deals with Gangers/Acid is Morpeth Jetsan, which is an anagram of Phantom Jester. Who knows what that means.
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Post by: Neoadept on May 28, 2011, 10:21:44 pm
Guys, guys.

The plot makes perfect sense if you assume that a crack squad of Silence are following the Gangers around giving them wildly contradictory orders every time we aren't looking.

In fact, I'm pretty sure this explains every instance of "poor writing" in the show's run can be attributed to the Silence.

All plot holes can be resolved with "A Silent did it."
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Post by: Haseri on May 29, 2011, 02:58:16 am
...brilliant.

Also, the episode answers IO9's question as to why the Doctor didn't seem totally necessary last episode: he only wanted to observe the flesh.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 29, 2011, 05:42:20 am
Oh yeah, the company who deals with Gangers/Acid is Morpeth Jetsan, which is an anagram of Phantom Jester. Who knows what that means.

Nice to see someone else remembered the Doctor Who production team's love of anagrams >_>


The plot makes perfect sense if you assume that a crack squad of Silence are following the Gangers around giving them wildly contradictory orders every time we aren't looking.

One problem Neo.

One teensy tiny little problem.

"You should kill us all on sight"

I think the 22nd century postdates the moon landing. :P
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Post by: Neoadept on May 29, 2011, 07:37:13 am
Ah, but the Gangers haven't seen it.  They may inherit all the memories of the original, but that order specifically isn't a memory.  Post hypnotic suggestion might be too subtle to carry over.

Which explains why the Silence are encouraging a revolution of the Flesh:  A whole new race to walk the earth and do their bidding that's never seen the kill message.

Perfect

Sense
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Post by: Gnoll on May 29, 2011, 05:13:14 pm
You... you're right!

I can't find a single objectionable thing in that theory!
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Post by: Luminar on May 29, 2011, 05:46:02 pm
The plan however will fail when the Gangers cant stop changing their mind every two seconds and another moronic Silence decides bragging on tape is a great idea.

"US AND THEM!! US AND THEM!!"
"Good. Now, go kill the humans."
"But they're just like us!"
"Look, just kill them, alright? This isn't hard."
"They're scum! They'll kill us all!"
"You've got the right idea, slaughter all of them horribly."
"But i've got a son. Kind of."
"Look you idiots, you're going to ruin our plans for world domination if you keep this rubbish up... wait... DAMMIT!"
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Post by: /lurk on May 29, 2011, 05:48:33 pm
Also the Silents wouldn't even know that you can duplicate people if they're connected to a ganger and hit by lightning.


Although of course the episode was so stupid it couldn't even keep that straight and just made some extra ones for no reason.
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Post by: Person21 on May 29, 2011, 06:40:59 pm
Although of course the episode was so stupid it couldn't even keep that straight and just made some extra ones for no reason.
I'm guess that that was the Flesh doing replicating itself like it wanted to. Episode was still stupid though.

And to bring up something else, it looks like Amy accidentally told the Doctor about his death. Wonder how that's going to work out.
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Post by: Met on May 30, 2011, 12:06:42 am
I love this thread. So much nerdrage.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 30, 2011, 05:10:22 am
On another note, I hope everyone else caught the Doctor's non-sequitor about Cybermats near the beginning of the episode.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 31, 2011, 03:21:21 am
We kinda already knew this (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-13594932)
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Post by: Ultimatum on June 04, 2011, 09:07:47 am
Oh yeah, the company who deals with Gangers/Acid is Morpeth Jetsan, which is an anagram of Phantom Jester. Who knows what that means.

Phantom Jester can be anagram of Master.. Phnto Je?
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Post by: Haseri on June 04, 2011, 11:32:46 am
FFFFFUUUUUU...

I was smiling all throught that episode.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 04, 2011, 02:06:52 pm
The twist was a bit lame. But I guess they'd built up to it for so long so regardless of what it was it would be dissapointing >_>

Still, Let's Kill Hitler!
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Post by: Tesla on June 04, 2011, 03:23:01 pm
Watching it now. So far so cringe-inducing.

Wait. A gay couple? Is Moffat paying homage to RTD?
 
"Where is he?" "He's the doctor, he could be anywhere in time and space."  TIME TRAVEL DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY!
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Post by: Ultimatum on June 04, 2011, 05:16:23 pm
Just watched.

That was awesome!
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Post by: Person21 on June 04, 2011, 06:50:30 pm
Started with the Doctor actually having to use a cunning plan rather than just technobabbling up something, or declaring that he's so clever they should just give up.


And then actually losing in the end.

Neither of these happen anywhere near often enough.
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Post by: Neoadept on June 04, 2011, 09:02:41 pm
Given River's speech, I'm thinking this might be the start of a trend of such things.
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Post by: /lurk on June 05, 2011, 10:25:49 am
Wait.

They captured Kovarian earlier in the episode. Did they just let her go without interrogating her or anything?

If they're that bloody stupid they deserve to lose.




Also, I know it's been a while but I still can't get over how stupid Almost People was: Flesh can duplicate a fully functional sonic screwdriver but not an acid-protection suit that dissolves easily in acid anyway; the sonic screwdriver apparently has a setting that dissolves flesh but nobody even thinks of using it on the monster and instead commit suicide with it; flesh duplicates a human brain perfectly enough that a blood clot carries over and has the same effect (and the Doctor exposits that eventually it will turn into real human body parts) but dissolves instantly when exposed to screwdriver rays?

Furthermore, since when were there acid lakes underneath the North Sea and why do they even need that much acid anyway? Also, why do they have ornamental spears in an acid factory? BLUH BLUH BLUH
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Post by: Ultimatum on June 05, 2011, 12:30:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4DVloTACBY
 :)
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Post by: Gnoll on June 06, 2011, 01:05:08 pm
So... that "time head" joke might not be such a joke after all, what do you think will happen?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 06, 2011, 02:13:45 pm
Well, based on clues and teasers I've seen, I think Amy's child will end up dying sacrificing herself for the good of others, but the doctor will save her into a digital existence, allowing her to cheat death.
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Post by: Neoadept on June 06, 2011, 03:20:10 pm
He'd better go back for her at some point, because even if the Moon reality isn't screwing with people any more I can't imagine a worse hell for someone like River.  She lives for excitement, adventure, and the Doctor, none of which exist inside happy town.  Not to mention that there's all of two real people in there with her, three if Moon's AI is advanced enough.

It's almost as bad as what happened to Martha.
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Post by: /lurk on June 06, 2011, 03:55:02 pm
Yeah, except River is annoying and I don't want to see more of her.
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Post by: MNIDJM on June 06, 2011, 07:52:34 pm
This is creepy considering how River was hitting of Rory. She acted up until now like she had no idea they are her parents.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on June 09, 2011, 11:17:52 am
Wait.

They captured Kovarian earlier in the episode. Did they just let her go without interrogating her or anything?

If I were to put on my apologist hat I would say in all likelyhood Kovarian was never on the station and what they captured was her flesh avatar.

I mean, that makes the most sense in terms of how much she seems to like that trick.
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Post by: Ultimatum on July 24, 2011, 01:35:22 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM7AMKdamao
 :)
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Post by: bad Karma on July 26, 2011, 01:24:31 pm
0:32.

Are you still there?
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Post by: Haseri on August 28, 2011, 02:15:15 am
It's back.

What did people think?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on August 28, 2011, 03:16:14 am
Pretty good. I figured Melz was River almost as soon a she turned up, and the episode had less focus on the Nazis than I expected, but otherwise, most enjoyable.
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Post by: Person21 on August 28, 2011, 08:42:44 am
That episode had far too little Hitler in it
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Post by: Neoadept on August 28, 2011, 09:07:34 am
But exactly the right amount of Rory punching Nazis.
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Post by: /lurk on September 03, 2011, 08:19:21 am
I just got around to watching it.


Yeah so hey why didn't the poison kill River?
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Post by: Haseri on September 03, 2011, 08:30:06 am
The same way the paralysing lipstick didn't paralyse her in last year's Weeping Angels episode.

It's how lipstick works in the whoniverse.
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Post by: Person21 on September 03, 2011, 08:57:13 am
Because Moff really likes Firefly.
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Post by: Haseri on September 03, 2011, 01:04:23 pm
Well, it was certainly creepy.

It was also the first episode to bring me to the edge of tears, at the very end.

Also, my friend was in it. She was one of the dolls. You can see her in Confidential when they were practising, the brunette in the grey cardigan.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 03, 2011, 03:23:02 pm
Eh, I can't say I rated it very highly.

Sure, those doll things are inherantly terrifying, but its in this really easy arbitrary way. You could almost say lazy. Yeah, of course clowns, china dolls, little girls with long hair and the like are inherantly scary, but without a good context its really easy to just brush it off.
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Post by: Person21 on September 03, 2011, 06:37:38 pm
Not too good, but nothing that makes me want to throw things at BBC Wales.
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Post by: Luminar on September 04, 2011, 01:55:07 am
Just thought it was boring myself. Not face smackingly terrible but nothing good or even ok either.
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Post by: Tesla on September 04, 2011, 06:34:39 am
Kind of annoyingly similar to "Fear Her." >_>

But that next episode looks pretty cool, right?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 04, 2011, 10:53:35 am
You're not the only one to spot the similarity Tesla. For all intents and purposes it was the same episode with a slightly higher budget.
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Post by: MNIDJM on October 01, 2011, 05:04:19 pm
Saw the last episode, it was okay. Saw the question coming a mile away though.
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Post by: Haseri on December 28, 2011, 02:32:31 am
...OK, spam aside, who watched the Christmas episode?

I thought it was a little lacklustre to be honest. Just something wasn't quite right.
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Post by: Person21 on December 28, 2011, 07:47:09 am
Piece of contrived, predictable crap with nothing interesting happening.

Why don't they beam out unauthorised personnel? Why do they have armed guards if they don't remove anyone they catch?
Hell, why don't they remove their giant machine(that's so easy to us even a woman from thousands of years in the past can do it!)? Seems like a waste to just have it destroyed by the acid.

And contrived HAPPY ENDINGS for everyone.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 28, 2011, 07:59:25 am
It was still better than a Very Flischy Christmas.

Also there's a developing theme with some of these christmas episodes that someone or something becomes energy and flies around space for no real raisin.
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Post by: Haseri on December 28, 2011, 08:08:42 am
Something I've noticed is all of Tennant's Christmas specials were stories set at Christmas, like Die Hard. The two Smith ones have been explicit Christmas stories.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 28, 2011, 09:38:32 am
Well, I sort of like the whole idea of "its Doctor Who meets -Christmas Movie-". Despite my general dislike for it I think the Christmas Carol one was a more successful execution of that than this Narnia one. I thought the whole evacuated family Narnia vibe was great until it got to the actual meat of the story and it turned out to be a load of handwavey gibberish about timey wimey energy trees.

I still want my "Murder on the Space Orient Express" which was meant to be on the cards for last year's special until Moffat intelligently lost the script or something.

Still, wonder what it'll be next year. A Miracle on Space 34th Street, Its a Wonderful Life Aboard This Spaceship, How the Space Grinch Stole Space-Christmas, The Great Escape (from space), Muppets from Space, K9 and the Island of Timey Whimey Whiny Toys, The Spaciest Story Ever Told?

You can have those for free BBC.
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Post by: jobybruk on March 15, 2012, 10:03:50 pm
I also watch this show. Every time I don't like to miss this show ever. As You wanna some site, I think there is no link for this from where you can watch the previous epi.. You can go with the DVD for these..
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Post by: Rysworld on March 15, 2012, 10:08:45 pm
Oh, I never mentioned I watch this show now.

Yeah, went on a big binge watching the entire 2005 show a few months ago, and now I'm working my way through the 1960s ones.

Haven't had a lot of time to watch them recently, unfortunately. :^[
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 01, 2012, 02:40:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iwoRA2Cas
 :)
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Post by: Haseri on September 01, 2012, 12:17:26 pm
Silence will fall when the question is asked.

"Doctor Who?" - Every Single Dalek.
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Post by: Ultimatum on September 01, 2012, 12:21:48 pm
So,what did you guys think of the episode?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 01, 2012, 01:57:14 pm
The relationship stuff felt a little shoehorned and there were several instances of character actions making no gorram sense, but overall very enjoyable.

Wondering how the hell Oswyn is going to end up being the new companion though >_>
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Post by: Tesla on September 01, 2012, 02:26:21 pm
Honestly thought this was one of Moffat's better episodes. It wasn't unbearably camp which puts it up in my top episodes.

I like how the new companion isn't from present day Britain, too. Call me crazy!
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Post by: operaghost21 on September 02, 2012, 03:20:07 pm
I liked it, but - 'oh no, an alien that can control dead bodies! what a frightening thing that's never happened before!' [/sarcasm]
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Post by: Person21 on September 02, 2012, 06:30:25 pm
I liked that ending. It was stupid, but hopefully we'll be seeing less wank about Super Duper Awesome The Doctor is. Though I think I said the same thing after the Pandorica.
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Post by: /lurk on September 10, 2012, 01:06:41 am
Well who would have thought "Dinosaurs on a spaceship" would be not terrible.

Although their paleontology was a bit dodgy.
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Post by: Tesla on September 10, 2012, 08:10:49 am
The hell was the point of the Riddell guy?

Also, was anyone else expecting the pirate guy to say "the TARDIS" when he was talking about something valuable on the ship?
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Post by: Rysworld on September 10, 2012, 03:54:42 pm
I was expecting either that or for the system to somehow realize what the Doctor was.
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 11, 2012, 07:36:33 am
I am getting very disoriented by the apparent lack of any sort of continuity from one episode to the next.

I want a story arc, dammit.
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Post by: Tesla on September 11, 2012, 07:59:59 am
It's been two episodes?
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Post by: Haseri on September 11, 2012, 08:17:12 am
Well, the arc for these 5 episodes is the Ponds getting weaned off the Doctor. Some folks have worked out that Dinosaurs takes place in 2020, 10 years after they got married.
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Post by: /lurk on September 11, 2012, 09:30:15 am
I am getting very disoriented by the apparent lack of any sort of continuity from one episode to the next.

I want a story arc, dammit.

Whenever they try to do an extended story arc it is invariably awful.

Please don't ask for that.
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Post by: Person21 on September 11, 2012, 01:21:09 pm
I want a story arc, dammit.

That's a terrible idea and you should feel terrible for thinking it.
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Post by: /lurk on September 11, 2012, 11:39:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/FP0Tv.png)

*bbump*
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 21, 2012, 03:17:32 pm
Some folks have worked out that Dinosaurs takes place in 2020, 10 years after they got married.

Except even by special tv land aging they don't look like they're in their 30s. (Yes yes, i looked up their ages and the guy who plays Rory is exactly 30, but still, COME ON no way thats a ten year time gap.)
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Post by: Haseri on September 21, 2012, 03:25:48 pm
But they definately look older in tomorrow's episode.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on December 26, 2012, 09:25:29 am
The Christmas Special came and went. So we can begin talking about Doctor Plot Holes again.
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Post by: Haseri on December 26, 2012, 09:37:17 am
I liked it and I liked the new companion.

I didn't like Vastra and Jenny (little bit Sue-ish "Oh I'm the inspiration for Sherlock Holmes and I'm a lizard and I have human woman for a wife, who is inexplicably in a catsuit for this scene. Only use one word answers because we need to sort of tension."), but Strax more than made up for them. I could watch him forever.
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Post by: Tesla on December 26, 2012, 12:59:46 pm
Ugh, the one word thing. So dumb.
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Post by: Ultimatum on December 27, 2012, 03:32:33 am
I can't believe they killed the companion(although she's appearing in the next episode there is that) off again!Also,the whole rain made of tears was a little predictable
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Post by: Haseri on December 27, 2012, 11:16:47 am
They only did 'Winter Is Coming' twice, and it wasn't supposed to be a jokey reference.

I think Moffat has some leeway when it comes to Holmes. As unsubstantiated (basic telling not showing mistake there, Moffat) and annoyingly arrogant as the lizard's claims are.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on December 27, 2012, 02:36:56 pm
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Oh also I got a Sonic Screwdriver (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/d7d8/) for Christmas.  ;D
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Post by: Brandonazz on January 03, 2013, 01:04:03 am
I don't know about you guys, but I'm psyched about the new companion.
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Post by: Ultimatum on January 03, 2013, 05:19:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lolHrQ0IZNc
 :)
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Post by: Person21 on March 30, 2013, 03:10:39 pm
The 90s called, they want their Sci-Fi back.
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Post by: Brandonazz on March 31, 2013, 02:03:14 pm
I liked it, but then again I didn't realise Who was back until very recently.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 07, 2013, 03:46:57 am
So yesterday's episode was pretty good. Liked it better than the first one.

Could always do with less sappy singing and "some nebulous emotion saves the day" but otherwise it was a nice episode.

Next one looks like it could be great! Also I took a look at the wiki pages for the other episodes in the season and apparently Neil Gaiman is writing another episode :D
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Post by: Tesla on April 07, 2013, 07:56:24 am
Wow! Feelings saved the day! What a ****ing surprise.
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Post by: Haseri on April 07, 2013, 08:07:59 am
Yeah... But then, Doctor Who wavers that line between soft science fiction and a fairy tale about a very clever man running across the universe in his big blue box. It just so happens this episode was in the latter category.

I really enjoyed all the aliens. I wish we see more scenes like that in tv and movies - I think the last time I saw anything like that was the troll market in Hellboy 2.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 07, 2013, 09:50:35 am
Yeah I got big Del Toro vibes as well.

Doctor Who is pretty derivative  :P
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 13, 2013, 03:36:47 pm
So,this latest episode  was.. Awesome!
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Post by: Neoadept on April 13, 2013, 06:21:27 pm
No, silly.  That was the first Oswin episode.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 20, 2013, 11:34:55 am
Ok so today's episode was another goody, by and large.

I think they managed to do a very good job with a rather large amount of concepts, right up until that totally pointless sort-of-twist at the end and the actors playing the ghost hunters really sold the sort of awkward chemistry they were meant to be having.

Another nice touch was Clara's interactions with the TARDIS. I'm generally in favour of the TARDIS as a character concept but I think it needs to be done with a light touch and this episode did a good job with it.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 20, 2013, 03:11:41 pm
Definitely a good episode,but what the heck was that monster thing,and what was it doing in the pocket dimension? I wanna know!
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Post by: Rysworld on April 20, 2013, 08:57:51 pm
That creature looks a LOT better when we could only see it in glances.

I kind of wish I hadn't seen it close up.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 21, 2013, 03:20:16 am
That is every cinematic monster ever made.
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Post by: Brandonazz on April 21, 2013, 02:36:16 pm
Just watched the episode and I agree; it was great. Probably my favorite so far this season.
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Post by: Rysworld on April 21, 2013, 07:23:44 pm
How worth it would it be to go back and watch all the episodes from the fourth doctor onwards?

I would say first but missing episodes etc etc.
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Post by: Person21 on April 27, 2013, 02:41:23 am
I would say first but missing episodes etc etc.

You can safely start with the Third.
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Post by: Rysworld on April 27, 2013, 07:42:51 am
Wait, is the eighth doctor's stuff purely audio drama and the movie?

Or am I missing something here?

Also, noted, 21.
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 27, 2013, 07:53:13 am
Pretty much.
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Post by: Person21 on April 27, 2013, 07:57:30 am
Wait, is the eighth doctor's stuff purely audio drama and the movie?

Books as well, but no one cares about them.

And if you do start with the third doctor you will encounter the problem that some of the episodes only exist in Black and White, though they all exist with both audio and video.
The audio of all One and Two's episodes exist as well, and you can find reconstructions floating around the internet for them.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on April 27, 2013, 08:10:36 am
Its not like missing episodes really matter so much since the serials were pretty much stand alone. You'd just have to skip out on the serials which had episodes missing.

I should clarify what serial means in this context.

Used to be that a single story of certain tv shows would be broadcast as several shorter episodes, with each one usually ending in a cliffhanger to get people to come back and watch the next part. To give an example a serial like "The Incessant Yelling of the Daleks" would be broadcast as six half hour episodes, each possibly with their own short title.
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Post by: Haseri on April 27, 2013, 11:23:42 am
I feel like this episode didn't need the salvage people.

Like really didn't need it. Compeletely peripheral to the story.

Oh well, Strax next week!
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Post by: Ultimatum on April 27, 2013, 11:57:01 am
The time war book..shame we never get to see anything from it!
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Post by: Person21 on April 27, 2013, 02:01:15 pm
would be broadcast as six half hour episodes, each possibly with their own short title.

Only the earliest Stories gave each individual episode their own title; near the end of Hartnell's run they would adopt the Doctor Who and The Underpants Of Rassilon Part 1/2/3/4 format.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on May 05, 2013, 12:42:47 am
The Crimson Horror was a remarkably unpleasant episode. It started off annoyingly, and just kept getting worse and worse. The Victorian Trio were really annoying, The Doctor is really acting more and more lecherous, and the unintimidating enemy was an old woman with a bad case of heart worms. Then it ended with annoying kids and promised the next episode was going to be Doctor Who's Happy Time Fun Ride for Kids.The previous episode was so strong, this feels like a sudden 9g  turn into a nose dive.

That dinochicks stupid veil had better be psychic or something, because its ridiculous when they react to her taking it off like it was completely opaque.
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Post by: Haseri on May 05, 2013, 02:38:03 am
I loved the episode. Strax was great and Vastra wasn't nearly so superior (possibly because she didn't get as much screen time). I do chide Gatiss a little bit for the forced TomTom joke, but the audacity was commendable.

But yeah, the veil was too transparent.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 05, 2013, 02:41:56 am
Haha, I knew this episode would divide people.

I actually really liked this one, despite it being hands down the stupidest episode we've had in a long time. I think the villain would have been lame had it not be for Diana Rigg's hi-larious over-acting, and in general everyone seemed to be having a lot of fun (especially Matt Smith getting to be a red Frankenstein).

Also next week's episode is written by Neil Gaiman so I would suspend any expectations you might have about it  ;)
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Post by: Rysworld on May 07, 2013, 05:57:23 am
Holy crap, the next episode's written by Neil Gaiman? Neat.

Anyways, I liked it, I thought the Crimson Horror was a really fun episode.
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Post by: Person21 on May 08, 2013, 08:08:17 am
All I could think was that Matt Smith really should play a Frankenstein's Monster character sometime.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 18, 2013, 11:48:32 am
So,what did you lot think of the final?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 18, 2013, 12:02:27 pm
WE SAW ALIVE TIME-LORDS.

Sure they were only TARDIS maintenance jumpsuits but they were alive!
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Post by: Brandonazz on May 18, 2013, 12:18:25 pm
That was amazing.
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Post by: Haseri on May 18, 2013, 01:06:45 pm
That was brilliant.
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Post by: Ultimatum on May 18, 2013, 03:51:02 pm
Only thing that bothered me was River song acting like an angel,I was half expecting her to appear with halo and wings
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Post by: Brandonazz on May 18, 2013, 04:23:36 pm
It made an effective narrative device, and added punch when the Doctor revealed that he could see her all along.
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Post by: Hydromancerx on May 19, 2013, 05:31:29 am
Very cool season finale!

Since the Doctor met himself would that make it a "Pair of Doc's"?   ;D
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Post by: Krakow Sam on May 19, 2013, 07:25:57 am
Since the Doctor met himself would that make it a "Pair of Doc's"?   ;D

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n125/Krakowsam/Macros/00650.gif)
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Post by: Ultimatum on August 04, 2013, 11:10:58 am
Bumping, because today is when we find out who is acting as the 12th doctor.
Its: Peter Capaldi
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Post by: Inkling on August 04, 2013, 11:47:57 am
That's cool I guess.  Should I have known who he is in advance?
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Post by: Haseri on August 04, 2013, 01:17:09 pm
Not really, but he was in the Pompeii episode and Torchwood's Children Of Earth.

But he's best known for the Thick Of It's Malcolm Tucker, the sweariest man on TV. I can't even post a link to anything he's ever said, lest I risk the wrath of the mods.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on August 04, 2013, 03:13:08 pm
Yeah but everyone should look it up anyway. I hope his Doctor is as sweary as Malcolm Tucker.
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Post by: Neoadept on August 04, 2013, 06:41:09 pm
I hope he has an episode like Family of Blood, but instead of being a professor he becomes secretary to the prime minister during Children of Earth.

I mean, the footage is already filmed.

And it would make one hell of a regeneration.
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2013, 09:37:52 am
This is totally unrelated, but I've been watching some Firefly and I was thinking that if there is ever an American Doctor (I'll report for my public hanging later), he should be played by Sean Maher, who played Doctor Simon Tam on Firefly.

Thoughts?
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Post by: Inkling on September 09, 2013, 11:21:48 am
I think an American Doctor is about as likely as an American Bond.
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2013, 02:08:29 pm
I think an American Doctor is about as likely as an American Bond.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Nelson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Nelson)
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Post by: Tesla on September 09, 2013, 03:23:41 pm
Barry Nelson never played James Bond in a film, only in an anthology TV show. The Bond he played was also an American named "Jimmy Bond."
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2013, 03:27:35 pm
I know but-

Okay, just what do you think of my suggestion of Sean Maher?
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Post by: Tesla on September 09, 2013, 03:30:03 pm
I'm glad the new Who isn't another young attractive man.

And he should be played by a British man. :P
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2013, 03:34:08 pm
Okay, yeah, true. You're right.
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Post by: Inkling on September 09, 2013, 04:28:15 pm
You don't think the Doctor should be a strong independent woman of color?  What kind of bigot are you?
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Post by: Tesla on September 09, 2013, 04:29:08 pm
The best kind. A white one.
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Post by: operaghost21 on September 09, 2013, 07:22:38 pm
The best kind. A white one.

Sounds like a piece of bread if I've ever heard one!
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Post by: Slinky on September 10, 2013, 08:06:58 am
You don't think the Doctor should be a strong independent woman of color?  What kind of bigot are you?

Well, certainly not the kind you'll find on tumblr.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 10, 2013, 09:20:17 am
Yeah tumblr only hates skinny white people like me.
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Post by: Person21 on September 10, 2013, 11:00:53 am
Check your thin privilege.
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Post by: Slinky on September 10, 2013, 02:32:53 pm
Yeah tumblr only hates skinny white people like me.

No, they accept people of all types as long as the type is bisexual emo teenager.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 10, 2013, 02:46:40 pm
Check your thin privilege.

(http://i1088.photobucket.com/albums/i340/an0uska_/GIFs/uter2.gif)
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Post by: Ultimatum on November 09, 2013, 05:08:46 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkq8pnvsnQg

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Post by: operaghost21 on November 13, 2013, 11:38:42 am
I'm so excited!
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Post by: Slinky on November 13, 2013, 02:26:21 pm
I'm unable to see it. The closest showing is in Milwaukee and I don't have cable. Or Netflix.

(http://mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Dr.-Who.gif)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 13, 2013, 02:38:02 pm
Oh yeah, and you're on dialup so you can't even watch someone's live stream of it.

I'm so sorry.

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Post by: Slinky on November 13, 2013, 03:40:08 pm
WHY

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mczu1eU6bw1qd8sko.gif)
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Post by: Ultimatum on November 13, 2013, 04:11:19 pm
Don't worry Slinky,we'll send you the tapes.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 14, 2013, 02:49:20 am
Here's a preview in the meantime:

(http://i.imgur.com/73PZIny.gif)
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Post by: Neoadept on November 14, 2013, 09:21:08 am
They shot a prequel short:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U3jrS-uhuo
Good for Paul McGann.  It wasn't his fault the movie was terrible.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 14, 2013, 09:35:54 am
Yaaaay! He got a proper send-off!

I've never seen the movie and don't really intend to but I'd really like to see more of McGann's Doctor. Although it looks like the Time War era was pretty low on fun adventures >_>

Oh man I'm so hype. Hold me Neo.
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Post by: Ultimatum on November 23, 2013, 01:16:13 pm
It was worth the wait.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 23, 2013, 01:35:05 pm
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Post by: /lurk on November 23, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
I actually saw it in the cinema for some reason.

It was uncharacteristically good! Was that REALLY written by Moffat?
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Post by: Haseri on November 23, 2013, 04:16:02 pm
I loved it. I watched in its natural setting - the floor of a living room.

All 13...
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 23, 2013, 05:09:01 pm
10/10 eye intensity.
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Post by: Rysworld on November 23, 2013, 05:31:10 pm
I enjoyed it.
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Post by: Person21 on November 24, 2013, 03:30:24 am
Capaldi has the sexiest eyebrows.


Also http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01m3kfy
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 24, 2013, 04:59:35 pm
That's because you never saw the end of the regeneration. They just cut away before it was done because Eccleston presumably hates fun and didn't want to be part of the special (I don't believe that they wouldn't have asked him, at least for a cameo)
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Post by: Brandonazz on November 24, 2013, 06:43:52 pm
Maybe he meant to join in, but got his ears stuck in something.
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Post by: Neoadept on November 24, 2013, 07:55:04 pm
He was too busy using an ancient device of ultimate destruction to obliterate a highly advanced anachronistic society in Thor to use an ancient device of ultimate destruction to obliterate a highly advanced anachronistic society in the special.
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Post by: Haseri on November 25, 2013, 01:13:16 am
Ecclestone's desire to put the show behind him is well publicised.

But then again, Tom Baker had the exact same attitude. And look how that turned out.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2013, 02:38:35 am
Do you maybe mean Colin Baker?

Because Tom Baker was the actor to play the Doctor for the longest, and is also one of the most popular and probably still the most recognisable incarnation (and also the sort of actor who will happily appear in just about anything if you pay him).

Whereas Colin Baker is widely considered the least popular Doctor, helmed the show during its worst seasons, had the shortest run after McGann and Eccleston, and was unceremoniously fired in a last ditch attempt to bolster the ratings by bringing in fresh blood.
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Post by: Haseri on November 25, 2013, 03:19:04 am
Yes, but jumped at the chance to play the Doctor again in the audio dramas. He loved playing the Doctor, not his fault he got shafted by the upper echelons of the BBC.

Whereas Tom didn't even appear in The Five Doctors and has only recently started doing audio.

Also, has anyone seen The 5(ish) Doctors Reboot (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03lv3mj)? It's pretty funny. It may only be available in the UK, but there's ways round that.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2013, 08:47:54 am
Yeah I saw it. Great cameos.

Seeing Paul McGann all rugged and stubbly makes me feel strange feelings that I don't understand.
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Post by: Slinky on November 25, 2013, 09:22:49 am
The only thing I didn't like was the opening. It didn't feel like a proper episode without the KWOOOOOOOSH noise and then a really cool, spacey opening. Other than that, very cool.

Gallifrey falls no more.
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Post by: operaghost21 on November 25, 2013, 11:20:38 am
Loved the special. Also enjoyed the Fiveish Doctors, even if I know little of old Who. And speaking of old Who...I really enjoyed An Adventure in Time and Space!
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 26, 2013, 05:00:30 pm
Does this mean all that stuff with Timothy Dalton and the Master has been rewritten?


No.

The most likely read on the situation is that Rassilon and the rest of the high council were trying to enact *their* crazy scheme as seen in "The End of Time" at 'the same time' or rather, a bit before, the Doctors enact theirs. Remember, the Time Lords who show up in the End of Time are basically trapped in the Time War, they can't time travel out of it because its 'locked' and if they stay in that time line eventually they'll either get Daleked or the Doctor wipes them out using the Moment.
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Post by: Ultimatum on November 29, 2013, 10:22:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9OWAAsSXU0

Thinking back to this scene,what if the Doctor was lying?(yes I know,rule 1)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2013, 11:20:37 am
He's not lying, the crazy events of the war are still 'Timelocked' whatever that means. Gallifrey has just been snuck out through a back door. What little of the war you see of the Timewar in the special is basically both sides reduced to footslogging, having both used basically all their superweapons and gambits to no effect.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 26, 2013, 09:30:09 am
Something about being bossy or something. Frankly that whole exchange made me slightly sympathise with all the SJ tryhards that hate Stephen Moffat.

Liked the rest of the episode well enough though. Not exactly good scifi or the most coherent story but the sentiment was good and it was a nice send-off for Matt Smith.

;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7 ;_;7
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Post by: Brandonazz on December 26, 2013, 02:00:24 pm
Yeah, it was a little overcrowded with plot. There were too many throwbacks that take a minute to process where no processing time was given.

Otherwise, I enjoyed it immensely and teared up at the end.
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Post by: Slinky on September 07, 2014, 01:17:17 pm
I've only seen Deep Breath and it was very enjoyable but the whole "plot arcs with recurring themes" thing that Moffat does was never very interesting to me. Not bad but not very interesting.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 08, 2014, 03:01:50 am
Dude the plot arc thing is hardly obtrusive. A few seconds out of each episode and it provides a little mystery. The Matt Smith seasons were incredibly heavy on episodes that advanced an overall plot, which is good for some viewers and not so good for others. The obsessive fans that like over-thinking stuff got to geek out about stuff but it also made the show less accessible to casual viewers and new viewers, and it also has the effect of making any episode in a season which doesn't directly contribute to the arc plot seem like 'filler', which makes otherwise decent episodes seem unwelcome because everyone is hungry for a resolution to some mystery or other.

I've enjoyed the three episodes so far but I agree it does feel a little off. I think its just Capaldi trying to get a feel for the character and the writers not really knowing what they're doing with him. Matt Smith basically slipped right into the role because he wasn't really that different from David Tennant. In his first season he could just read lines that writers had written for Tennant in his own way and get away with it. Capaldi is supposed to be playing a more different Doctor and as a result nobody really knows what to shoot for yet. It should settle down once everyone is on the same page.

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Post by: Rysworld on September 08, 2014, 07:25:24 am
I wasn't a fan of the first episode, a lot of the dialogue felt forced and unrealistic, especially from and to Clara. It was weird.

The second episode was alright. Unmemorable.

I like the third episode the best so far. It reminds me somewhat of early new Doctor Who, specifically Nine, where the writers are less concerned with writing realistically and more with putting out entertainment. Not to say I like more one than the other, I just don't mind this.
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Post by: Slinky on September 08, 2014, 03:31:52 pm
GOD DAMMIT

Also, Sam, it's not intrusive and don't get me wrong I loved most of Matt Smith, it was just the "is the Doctor good/bad" stuff that was annoying me. And the Trenzalore ****.
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Post by: Tesla on September 08, 2014, 04:29:20 pm
The "is the doctor evil" thing has always irritated me so much, because he's so obviously a good guy? They play it up that he's all morally ambiguous and commits these atrocities all the time, but... He doesn't. He just shows up and waves his magic wand around and everyone's happy and applause.
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Post by: Slinky on September 08, 2014, 05:43:19 pm
Yeah. And the whole Silence thing was dumb even though the Silence themselves were cool. I often find my favorite episodes being fillers, to be honest.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 09, 2014, 02:25:24 am
Doctor Who isn't your Japanese animes it doesn't have filler. I just said that some of the decisions in the last couple of seasons made some episodes *seem* like filler. When we start seeing episodes where the Doctor and his companion just hang out on the beach or at the mall for 45 minutes then you can start accusing it of being filler.
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Post by: /lurk on September 09, 2014, 06:53:13 am
"Doctor and companion go to a luxury spa planet" was one of the best episodes of the Tennant run though.
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2014, 05:06:14 pm
I was using your definition of filler, Sam, not real filler. Like Vincent and the Doctor and The Lodger. Both not related to plot arcs but really really good.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 09, 2014, 05:08:37 pm
"Doctor and companion go to a luxury spa planet" was one of the best episodes of the Tennant run though.

Yeah but that's because the Doc encountered some alien ****ery he couldn't talk his way out of. Rusty Davis could actually write a decent episode as long as it took place mostly inside a locked vehicle.
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Post by: Slinky on September 09, 2014, 05:18:58 pm
Rusty Davis
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 10, 2014, 07:17:41 am
Rusty Davis

Lurk came up with it and I like it.
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Post by: Slinky on September 10, 2014, 02:16:19 pm
hey alright!
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Post by: /lurk on September 13, 2014, 12:24:28 pm
If Grand Moff Steven is capable of writing a compelling episode like that, what the hell has he been doing the rest of the time?
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Post by: Ultimatum on September 13, 2014, 12:56:26 pm
No one is perfect,and  sometimes you can't tell you story you want,even with all the budget in the world.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 14, 2014, 02:23:32 am
I think the nicest thing about that episode is just how unpredictable it was. From the teaser last week I had no idea about what the plot was supposed to be, aside from creepy stuff intentionally calculated to emotionally scar children.

At no point did I know where the episode was going to go next, plus the amount of tension and creepiness in the episode was great without having to resort to cheap jump scares or crappy-looking rubber monsters.

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Post by: Person21 on September 14, 2014, 04:00:54 am
Well it proves that Moffat can still deliver a good story even if he still can't go without making his companions super special to the Doctor.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 14, 2014, 04:22:42 am
I really don't see what everyone's problem is with that.

If it escapes anyone's recollection we already had the "totally normal" companion and while there was nothing specifically wrong with her she was all-round pretty boring.

(http://i.imgur.com/b1u9QcH.jpg)

Its dramatically satisfying for the companions to have something a bit different or special about them. I think its also nice that Clara actually lives up to all the praise the Doctor usually lavishes on his companions for a change. He was constantly harping on about how great Rose and Amy were during their runs and yet for all that they never actually seemed to do anything besides run their mouths and be sassy. Clara has at least proved resourceful and intelligent, and capable of achieving some modest goals without getting kidnapped or falling into a hole.
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Post by: Person21 on September 14, 2014, 04:42:28 am
Black Woman Whose name I've Forgotten Martha Jones wasn't boring because she wasn't Moffat's self-insert, she was boring because her personality was that she wanted to jump the Doctor's bones immediately after we already had a companion whose thing was that. Donna was more interesting after she stopped being Catherine Tate without having to be part of the Doctor life at every point in it.
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Post by: Haseri on September 15, 2014, 12:30:33 pm
Maybe I haven't been looking hard enough, but has anyone put forward the Promised Land being Silicon Heaven?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6YnAqPv4w
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 15, 2014, 12:49:16 pm
I agree strongly with Sam here. It's nice to have a companion that is more of a sidekick than a bauble to the Doctor.
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Post by: Person21 on September 15, 2014, 12:54:17 pm
There's a difference between a sidekick, any decent companion should be able to lend their own strengths to the Doctor, and being responsible for the entire programme. It's not a dichotomy between useless and ultra snowflake.
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 15, 2014, 01:03:32 pm
There's a difference between a sidekick, any decent companion should be able to lend their own strengths to the Doctor, and being responsible for the entire programme. It's not a dichotomy between useless and ultra snowflake.

Sam said she was "...capable of achieving some modest goals without getting kidnapped or falling into a hole."

Not an ultra snowflake.
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Post by: Person21 on September 15, 2014, 01:16:39 pm
But the girl he was describing is an ultra snowflake. Despite having the same flirty/slightly quirky personality that all Moffats girl's do she saved the Doctor a hundred billion times that we don't actually see and don't affect anything by jumping into some glowing technobabble. And just to top it off it doesn't affect her character because she doesn't seem to remember any of it (see her reaction to regeneration) and it was all just some spectacle to end one of Moffat's Marvellous Mysteries.

The best chance of getting an actual interesting companion would be for the programme to get over its obsession with modern day earth
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Post by: Tesla on September 15, 2014, 02:01:25 pm
I actually like Clara a lot this season too. The weird part is she didn't stand out at all last season.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 16, 2014, 02:55:15 am
The best chance of getting an actual interesting companion would be for the programme to get over its obsession with modern day earth

Gotta keep the show grounded dude.

I actually like Clara a lot this season too. The weird part is she didn't stand out at all last season.

Last season she had the burden of dealing with all the season finale anniversary special type stuff. Now that's out of the way they can actually concentrate on making her interesting.

Regardless, from what we've seen so far this season I think she might actually be my favourite companion so far. She's certainly the cutest :3.
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Post by: Person21 on October 12, 2014, 05:16:15 am
Was that episode actually pretty good or is it just that the last episode was terrible and I have a soft spot for space trains?
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Post by: Haseri on October 12, 2014, 05:25:22 am
It could be Clara in a bob and flapper dress, and silk pyjamas at one point.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 12, 2014, 11:26:56 am
The episode was really good. Clever premise and monster, I didn't feel patronised by the explanations and they managed to get in lots of juicy doctor/companion stuff without it feeling forced. 50/10
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Post by: Slinky on October 12, 2014, 11:49:37 am
Damn, I need to get caught up. I only just watched "Hide".
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Post by: Slinky on October 19, 2014, 08:08:27 pm
Well, I'm looking forward to this season if every episode is the best :P
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Post by: Haseri on October 20, 2014, 03:54:59 am
It was good apart from graffiti street art being painted over by anyone but another artist. It may be different away from the centre but this is a city where we let favoured son Banksy take over our museum, and have a short festival centred around street art.

I also didn't know we had such extensive underground rails. Forget flying aircraft carriers and a UNIT moonbase, I want a Bristol Underground. Or a metro line. Anything to save us from buses.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 20, 2014, 08:27:05 am
Haseri this obviously takes place in a world where Bansky doesn't exist and that sidekick kid is going to become the Banksy of the Doctor Who universe.
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Post by: /lurk on November 01, 2014, 02:07:03 pm
Cute twist.
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Post by: Haseri on November 01, 2014, 02:26:47 pm
I haven't seen anything so likely to break tumblr and cause fanfiction since Sherlock kissed Moriarty.
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Post by: Haseri on November 08, 2014, 01:58:56 pm
Well.

Moffatt is a mad man.
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Post by: Ultimatum on November 08, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCpMIe8FjEU

I really enjoyed this final.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 09, 2014, 05:32:30 am
The episode was fun but the various endings were terrible.

Also I thought pop culture had largely got over its obsession with unambiguously killing villains right in front of our eyes, thus making the explanations of their inevitable return contrived and embarrassing.

Pumped for Santa though.
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Post by: Tesla on November 13, 2014, 03:13:17 am
Oh yeah the master (or the mistress, I guess) totally didn't die.

I wonder if the master regenerating as a woman is the writers seeing how the audience reacts to the prospect of a future female doctor?

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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 13, 2014, 10:54:41 am
Along with the "reveal" of Clara being the Doctor ALL ALONG.
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Post by: Slinky on November 13, 2014, 02:56:58 pm
Wait, what?? I shouldn't have looked at this thread, I've just finished Matt Smith...

Clara's the Doctor??
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Post by: Slinky on November 13, 2014, 05:30:33 pm
David Tennant rips off his mask and reveals himself to be Old Man Jenkins.
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Post by: Tesla on December 22, 2014, 05:07:19 pm
Totally with you there, MasterChiToes. :P
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Post by: Tesla on December 28, 2014, 09:32:16 am
Despite the contrived plot and silliness, I actually liked parts of this episode. You can certainly tell it was written by Moffat, with his typical high-concept gimmicky alien baddie. I think it would have been much much better had the plot focused more on the already "possessed" aliens who sense your thoughts, rather than the overdone inception style dream-within-a-dream stuff.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on December 29, 2014, 03:59:44 am
God Chitoes you didn't like Last Christmas but you liked The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe? That has to be the worst Christmas Special of the bunch, like, genuinely dreadful (aside from the lemonade tap).


I'm with Tesla here. I think the concept was great all in all, even if the execution was a bit ropey and the resolution to the actual danger seemed a bit rushed (and I'll agree with you that the Doctor really shouldn't have just assumed that the last layer was actual reality given he'd already been tricked about six times). But I thought the way they handled Santa was genius since it doesn't dispel any beliefs that kids watching may have while simultaneously not necessarily introducing magic to the universe for all the manchildren watching.
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Post by: Slinky on December 29, 2014, 10:23:55 am
I just watched Eleven regenerate and I'm gonna cry now.
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Post by: Ultimatum on December 29, 2014, 03:40:34 pm
He couldn't wait to be disappointed..

I liked the episode,although had Clara actually died in the dream it probably would of been one hell of a way to leave   
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Post by: Ultimatum on July 16, 2015, 02:11:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi3nJBlJs48

Now,what could he be talking about in the trailer,hmmm..
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Post by: Krakow Sam on July 16, 2015, 03:07:38 pm
Oh good they're not going to insult us by expecting us to be surprised when it turns out Missy isn't dead for realz.
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Post by: Ultimatum on September 14, 2015, 09:13:09 am
Has anyone else seen the  prologue to the new series?
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 14, 2015, 09:15:47 am
You mean with the 8th Doctor? I have.
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Post by: Ultimatum on September 14, 2015, 09:25:33 am
Um no,I mean the one for season 9

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMI7K8KsTsA
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 19, 2015, 02:04:44 pm
Doctor Who, the show that cycles between being itself, being a parody of itself, and trying to be something it's not.
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Post by: Ultimatum on September 19, 2015, 02:10:36 pm
Well the show has been on for so long it started getting very confused,
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 19, 2015, 05:35:16 pm
Um no,I mean the one for season 9

BBC got it down. Dead link.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 26, 2015, 06:08:08 pm
Ok, Part 2 was decent even if the season opener was a mess. More great Missy MaterialTM and some genuinely pretty cool scenes with Davros and the Doctor.

Why Davros such a dummy though.

Also, a question that bears repeating forever. Why does Davros employ a man-shaped pile of snakes?
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Post by: Person21 on September 27, 2015, 01:14:50 am
Did I just watch Davros set up a a hurt/comfort fan fiction as part of a plot to steal the Doctor's magic to save his life and improve his Daleks, but the Doctor knew they were LARPing all along and it was all part of his plan to use his magic to raise an army of dead Daleks that would seek revenge on the living Daleks?

Because I think that's what I just watched.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 27, 2015, 03:24:27 am
All according to Keikaku.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on September 27, 2015, 12:07:51 pm
Who do I have to punch in the face for the sonic  8)? They deserve it because that made me  ::)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 27, 2015, 02:40:59 pm
Eh, don;t worry, The screwdriver will be back sooner or later.


 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Post by: Neoadept on September 27, 2015, 02:48:23 pm
Favorite part of of the episode:  The only other chair on Skaro.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on September 27, 2015, 04:28:56 pm
Yeah, over all I think these stories were messy with a lot of great moments. Like creating a situation where it appears the Doctor was about to do something terrible: killing some one. They tried the same thing at the start of last season, but this example much more effective. The solution to the evil plan was bad writing. I KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING ALL ALONG! is just a really bad line. The Doctor's "YU-DUN-GOOFED" mode is becoming a tired vestige of Matt Smith's Doctor.

Overall, Capaldi's Doctor is still written like Matt Smith wearing an old man costume.
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Post by: Brandonazz on September 28, 2015, 12:01:15 am
I'd say he's his own character, with a lot of War Doctor and 12 blended in. I'm sure he'll become more distinct.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 28, 2015, 01:06:51 am
Yeah, he felt like more his own guy these last two episodes. Moreso than the last season anyway, where clearly the writers didn't know what to do and were just defaulting to Matt Smith/"My fave doc from when I was 10" mode.

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Post by: Haseri on September 28, 2015, 03:42:54 am
I don't know what people's problems with the sunglasses are. I don't think he called them 'sonic sunglasses', they don't look particularly marketable (no Gallifreyan markings on the side or whatever) and they solve the problem a lot of people had with the screwdriver - it was being used by writers as a magic wand. Hard to make sunglasses into a magic wand.
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Post by: Tesla on September 28, 2015, 01:30:23 pm
it's a bit too much like the bowtie/fez stuff

the "bowties are cool" line still makes me cringe a bit, because i seem to encounter the line in real life with a frequency extremely disproportionate to any other dr who reference (and theyre not that cool)
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on September 28, 2015, 06:45:33 pm
It's the Doctors version of "The Cake is a Lie"
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 30, 2015, 12:55:09 am
His chair has an empathy-simulating chip. This was established in the Sixth Doctor audio adventure "The Skies of Skaro".

It's like you're not even a fan.

(http://i.imgur.com/WYO5y3F.png)
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Post by: Person21 on September 30, 2015, 02:31:32 am
When was it established that the Dalek machines have a word filter? Why did the world filter include "mercy" if they're not supposed to be able to say that? How did showing Davros mercy as a child get into the DNA of these Daleks in particular? How did getting it into the Daleks DNA get it into the machine's word filter? Also the death rays being charged with emotions is anime tier.

Chair bit was pretty good though
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Post by: Haseri on September 30, 2015, 05:47:07 am
I was reading an interview in Doctor Who Magazine (still no internet, so I've been blasting through the last year or so of them) with 70s script editor Terry Dicks. And he said in those continuity was only as much as you could remember, or even cared about. Hence the joke last week about Atlantis being sunk three times.

I find it odd that Moffat isn't allowed to make things up as writer. I can only imagine what the internet would have said in the last episode of The War Games when the Time Lords were introduced. Or that the Daleks had an inventor at all in Genesis of the Daleks (then again, that was Terry Nation). If he wants Davros able to have the ability to open his eyes to trick the Doctor into believing he deserves a level of sympathy, he can.

I do feel like I'm defending my future/dream job though.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on September 30, 2015, 12:21:02 pm
I thought of a much worse plothole than all of those other ones...


At the beginning when lil' Davros is in the field of hands, the Doctor is all like "just run you have a thousand to one chance". But then later on he shows up again and just ****ing shoots them all.

So he could have shot them all anyway.

So, knowing this, he basically goads some random kid into an almost certainly suicidal sprint when he had the means to save him with a perfect success rate in the first place.

HAHAH good joke Doc. HAHA.  :-\
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 03, 2015, 02:27:04 pm
New episode is very solid!

8 Ghosts out of 10
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Post by: Haseri on October 03, 2015, 03:39:37 pm
I read I Shall Wear Midnight recently. I had trouble imagining what the Burned Man looked like, something with out eyes. Now I know.

That shot where the three ghosts just stand there, waiting. I didn't see one of them until it started moving. Genuinely creeped out.
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 03, 2015, 03:53:51 pm
New episode is very solid!

8 Ghosts out of 10

2 scary 4 me
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Post by: Person21 on October 04, 2015, 03:29:31 am
The preview shows commie propaganda to go with the orthodox church.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 04, 2015, 01:06:24 pm
Preview looks pretty cool. If you watch the tv trailer rather than the "next time" there's this huge awesome-looking alien done with practical effects and it's apparently voiced by Peter Serafinowicz.

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Post by: Brandonazz on October 04, 2015, 01:14:25 pm
I may be too used to netflix binging, but that 'to be continued' made me rage at my monitor.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 04, 2015, 03:21:59 pm
I was just excited that the show managed to surprise me.

I wasn't aware all the episodes this season are two-parters so I was expecting the episode to wrap up any minute with some neat, magical solution. Then the twist comes out of left field and To be Continued flashes up. What a time to be alive.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on October 04, 2015, 05:46:46 pm
Yeah I like this episode. Its creepy but the dream logic of it is cool. Also a Memetic Virus! Somebody call the SCP Foundation!
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 05, 2015, 08:48:37 am
Go where?
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Post by: Brandonazz on October 05, 2015, 01:47:19 pm
I don't get it.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 05, 2015, 04:39:06 pm
Me neither. Can someone please explain?
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 05, 2015, 04:49:56 pm
I think...he (MasterChiToes) still thinks it's 11th doctor's season
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Post by: Tesla on October 11, 2015, 10:56:54 am
what?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 11, 2015, 11:26:00 am
Uh, so anyway, I thought that two-parter was rather good. There were some flaws, no doubt, but it was a good, serious classic-feeling doctor who story with some nice monsters and some meaty moments.

I feel like the Fisher King was a little underutilised given the wonderful practical effects and voice work (both on its screams, which were provided by the frontman of Slipknot, and it's general voice work) but maybe we'll see him or his species return given his speciality seems to be cheating death (and that the giant puppet was probably quite expensive). Certainly he had a sort of dread presence that extended across both episodes which trumped his menace as a purely physical creature. 
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on October 11, 2015, 10:42:41 pm
Prentice (Apprentice? Prentiss? I cant quite catch it) was my favorite part of this episode. The fourth wall breaking parts were fun. The monsters were interesting. The guest characters were so good, I found myself wishing we could get a new companion out of the episode. They made an episode where the solution came from no where, and making that literally true, and the episode still worked.

"You could enslave me. In the ship I have directions to my planet, and a selection of items that you can oppress me with."

The bad parts were the writers using those 4th wall breaking parts to give themselves a pat on the back, hearing the criticisms of Doctor solutions coming from no where and creating an episode where that is literally true. I know I said I liked them, but I think it was because Capaldi sold those bits so well, rather than anything the writers added there. It was fun watching him.

Clara is so past her prime as a companion. Here, she plays the part of a bookmark and camera holder. And chief whiny baby. "OH NO DOCTOR DON'T LEAVE ME WAAAAAGH. MY MOTIVATION CHANGES WITH EVERY FLIPPING SEASON WAAAAAAGH."

The writers forgot he didn't have a Sonic screwdriver, so they gave the sunglasses way more powers than the screwdriver and used them just like the screwdriver by sticking the rim into a USB port. I want to punch the guy who recommended them in his hair gel covered beard, the god damned millennial hipster douche nozzle. I am not even against changing the object, just that the object should be a unique and interesting prop, and not a pair of god damned ray-bans.

(http://i.imgur.com/Vop0dw1.jpg)
This is whom I imagine him to be, in case you were wondering.

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Post by: Tesla on October 17, 2015, 06:32:43 pm
Kind of wish they'd saved such an interesting final act (or like, half-act) for a less mediocre episode.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 18, 2015, 05:03:06 am
Electric Eels!

¬_¬

(Also viking helmets with horns)


Yeah, the bulk of the episode was pretty run of the mill for Doctor Who but actually that seems to already be the pattern for this season. Pretty standard episodes with all the usual flaws of Doctor Who being somehow elevated by some interesting twist or an interesting new concept being introduced (usually backed up with a fantastic monologue from Capaldi)

Honestly after the mess that was the season opener every subsequent episode has been a very pleasant surprise. Capaldi has really found his feet, and the writers have found his voice. He might even be becoming my new favourite (I think possibly my favourite is always the most recent Doctor)
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Post by: Rysworld on October 18, 2015, 09:19:26 am
So, I stopped watching a little bit after the Happening episode when the trees attacked, when things really started to feel like a bad fanfiction.

Is the show okay again?
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 18, 2015, 09:23:15 am
Yeah,shows much better since then
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 18, 2015, 09:29:35 am
The first season of Capaldi was obviously a case of nobody quite knowing what to do what with the big changes that had taken place. What to do with Capaldi and how to write for him, what direction or tone the show should have after the Anniversary movie and Smith's massive outtro. Now they seem to have the answers to all those questions.

Also I've noticed a new Executive Producer credited alongside Moffat this season. I assume Moffat is finally feeling like he's had enough and is grooming his replacement before he bows out. Much like Russel T. Davies I feel like Moffat has done a lot of good things for the show, and written some really good stand alone episodes, but as the seasons have marched on I've begun to get tired of his signature bull**** and it's probably coming on time for a fresh pair of eyes to look at the show.
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 18, 2015, 09:31:03 am
I'll be very surprised if the  weeping angels don't appear this season
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 18, 2015, 11:44:53 am
I doubt they will.

I think they pretty much exhausted them as a monster. The one in New York just took the whole concept to the dumbest possible extreme. They might show up again one day but I don't think it'll be any time soon.
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Post by: Tesla on October 18, 2015, 12:01:32 pm
So sick of Moffat's gimmicky aliens.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 18, 2015, 12:40:53 pm
Oh I wouldn't do that Tesla.

For you see, there exists a creature. A joke of evolution. A sadistic and unstoppable stalker in the darkness of space.

This creature feeds on your ability to be sick of gimmicks, uses your feelings to grow stronger and control you.

The more sick you get of its gimmicks, the stronger its hold over you!

So whatever you do, DON'T GET SICK OF GIMMICKY ALIENS!
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Post by: Tesla on October 18, 2015, 02:03:15 pm
Remember the one that was like, standing up under the covers of a bed for a bit and then ran away? I think it was with young Amy Pond. Moffat just kinda stuck one in for no good reason. It was only in the episode for about 5 minutes. I think that was the worst of them all - it felt like he was parodying himself.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on October 18, 2015, 04:26:58 pm
That was the episode with the young Danny soldier man (he used to be a solider you know)

I thought that one was ok actually. Mostly because there wasn't really a gimmick as such and the whole thing was rather ambiguous.
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Post by: Tesla on October 18, 2015, 04:39:58 pm
oh yeah, that was the episode where the doctor wonders why no species has ever evolved to hide

dumb dumb dumb
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Post by: Ultimatum on October 18, 2015, 04:48:24 pm
That was the episode with the young Danny soldier man (he used to be a solider you know)

I thought that one was ok actually. Mostly because there wasn't really a gimmick as such and the whole thing was rather ambiguous.

And he dug wells!
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Post by: Haseri on October 19, 2015, 02:11:18 am
Also I've noticed a new Executive Producer credited alongside Moffat this season. I assume Moffat is finally feeling like he's had enough and is grooming his replacement before he bows out.

Brian Minchin is more along the lines of Julie Gardner under Davies - the guy ho gets things done while Moffat deals with the story side of things.

But he is almost certainly probably finding a replacement. I'm going to guess we'll know before series 11 in 2017 (he's already said he's sticking around for series 10).
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on October 20, 2015, 09:55:42 am
The viking who snapped the shades is my hero.

But yeah, this season is pretty cool so far. I like the hinting in this episode towards previous times the Doctor has saved people while violating the flow of time.

Also here is some speculating: More hints that The Doctor or someone else is a hybrid. Emphasis on the Doctor fighting battles and leading wars and training soldiers. Do you think that Moffat will make the Doctor a Dalek-Gallifreyan hybrid as an explanation for why the Doctor is special, even among Time Lords? Brain of a Dalek, Heart(s) of a Time Lord? I don't like the development. I know the Dalek's are the most popular villain on the series, but at this point they have elevated  in importance so much that now the main character is part Dalek, if this interpretation becomes true.

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Post by: Neoadept on October 20, 2015, 03:06:59 pm
Also here is some speculating: More hints that The Doctor or someone else is a hybrid. Emphasis on the Doctor fighting battles and leading wars and training soldiers. Do you think that Moffat will make the Doctor a Dalek-Gallifreyan hybrid as an explanation for why the Doctor is special, even among Time Lords? Brain of a Dalek, Heart(s) of a Time Lord? I don't like the development. I know the Dalek's are the most popular villain on the series, but at this point they have elevated  in importance so much that now the main character is part Dalek, if this interpretation becomes true.
That's a pretty big leap.  I mean, I don't event think that fits Davros' bull**** prophesy.

I think you've gone insane, Wizard.  There may be membranes involved.  See a doctor.

That wasn't supposed to be a pun.
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Post by: Mr. Wizard on November 03, 2015, 10:11:40 am
This episode is Doctor Topical.
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Post by: Slinky on November 03, 2015, 01:04:28 pm
Truth or Consequences, NM - because sometimes the slogan of your movement is also where it's based?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 03, 2015, 02:49:07 pm
You mean you haven't been to Gamergate, N.C.?
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Post by: Inkling on November 03, 2015, 10:51:07 pm
It's beautiful there in the fall.
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Post by: Slinky on November 04, 2015, 03:56:39 pm
You mean you haven't been to Gamergate, N.C.?

but i thought pat lived in pennsylvania
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 04, 2015, 04:11:51 pm
Yeah he lives in Dongwiener, PA
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Post by: Krakow Sam on November 14, 2015, 03:10:11 pm
Also here is some speculating: More hints that The Doctor or someone else is a hybrid. Emphasis on the Doctor fighting battles and leading wars and training soldiers. Do you think that Moffat will make the Doctor a Dalek-Gallifreyan hybrid as an explanation for why the Doctor is special, even among Time Lords? Brain of a Dalek, Heart(s) of a Time Lord? I don't like the development. I know the Dalek's are the most popular villain on the series, but at this point they have elevated  in importance so much that now the main character is part Dalek, if this interpretation becomes true.
That's a pretty big leap.  I mean, I don't event think that fits Davros' bull**** prophesy.

I think you've gone insane, Wizard.  There may be membranes involved.  See a doctor.

That wasn't supposed to be a pun.

So, thinking on the way Moffat likes to write this show, I think I know who the Hybrid is going to turn out to be.

I think the Hybrid is Clara, because in some half-assed way she's half Doctor, half Companion. They keep sort of shoehorning in the idea that she's somehow becoming the Doctor, and Moffat just can't resist making the companion some sort of special magical destiny person with some sort of unique connection with the Doctor.

That's my dumb theory.

Also, not sure what to think about that last episode. Attack of the eye-boogers. Ok.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Brandonazz on November 16, 2015, 08:59:42 am
Yeah, that made no sense to me either.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on November 16, 2015, 10:27:29 am
The episode tried to be clever and meta by pointing out that it didn't make any sense, but it failed because it made less sense than it thought it did.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 16, 2015, 10:29:48 am
The thing is I can sort of overlook the eye crust monster silliness on the basis that it was just a cheap attempt by Mark Gatiss to scare 8 year olds. Instead of "Evolved Sleep Dust" just say the monsters are necrotic human cells and nanobots animated by a psychic gestalt that was created when people started using the Morpheus booths. 
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Mr. Consideration on November 16, 2015, 12:38:35 pm
Christ, that last episode was almost unbearably stupid. Just because you've slept for a compressed amount of times doesn't mean you'd produce any more mucous to clean you eyes unless the Morpheus machine pumps dust into you eyes for some reason.

Plus y'know, why would dust spontaneously come to life and eat people and develop intelligence.

It wasn't even camp-funny bad. They really phoned it in with this one.

Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 16, 2015, 04:29:19 pm
It works if you use my explanation ;D
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Mr. Wizard on November 16, 2015, 05:58:15 pm
The episode was good if you ignore the eye crust explanation. The found footage theme was fun, and was used to set up nice moments that the audience was probably noticing already, like the camera footage coming directly from the viewpoints of the characters. It played really well with that lesser used Doctor superpower where he seems able to look through video of himself, and notice when he is being recorded. It was unfortunately used set up a weak meta "Gotcha" plan for the villain. The boogermen were intimidating villains, and the found footage aspect of the episode helped them. Unfortunately, their stated origin is moronic, and little miss annoying Clara misnamed them. They are boogermen.

The ending was weakened by it's attempt to be a meta 'gotcha' play. I like what they were going for, infect Doctor fans by making a classic episode of Doctor Who where we watch from beginning to end and infect ourselves. Cool idea, poor execution. The Fisher King would have been a better figure to base a plan like that around, if they wanted to create a game like that, with his symbols being visual memetic infectors and all. It felt like they were trying too hard to shoehorn it in.

Also I am calling it now The doctor will die and regenerate into an angry badger but no one will be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Haseri on November 17, 2015, 02:03:38 am
You know which monster would do well in a found footage episode?

Weeping Angels.

Make it a Doctor lite episode, I bet it could redeem both the Weeping Angels and found footage episodes.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Tesla on November 17, 2015, 02:37:28 am
The only thing that really annoyed me about this weeks stupid as **** episode was right at the end where he goes "you've got something... *points* ... There... In the corner of your eye..."

Just say "you've got something in your eye." It's such a tiny change but it sounds and looks so much less dumb. :|  Its closer to a thing people actually say.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on November 21, 2015, 12:57:00 pm
I hate cliff hangers
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 22, 2015, 05:52:52 am
Welp, they finally had the guts to do it.

Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on November 22, 2015, 02:23:14 pm
I felt it had emotional impact,and the doctor's reaction...well what he did to the family of blood will seem tame in comparison!

Also a  'refugee Cyberman' might just be someone who was partially upgraded.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Neoadept on November 22, 2015, 03:01:49 pm
Might not even be a refugee.  They could be using it as a computer.  Worked pretty well with Handles.

Poor, poor Handles...

And I think that's the closest thing to closure Clara's "arc" was ever going to get.  Worked well enough.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Mr. Wizard on November 25, 2015, 09:04:52 am
It was overdue. There were plenty of previous episodes that would have been better endpoints. I suppose each season with Clara had her with a different personality and different motivation, and each had a fitting endpoint. I suppose this is the best ending for her with this seasons "My motivation is my death wish" Clara. If it is indeed permanent, but I haven't read any of the discussions surrounding the show to know.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on November 25, 2015, 10:27:16 am
My gut says we've not see the last of her
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2015, 11:10:43 am
Yeah, you could say there's a little Clara in all of us.

You could even say we ate Clara, and she's in our stomachs, right now!

(http://i.imgur.com/umJLRDQ.jpg)

Uhhhh, scratch that last one.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 26, 2015, 12:33:29 am
I like the guitar.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on November 26, 2015, 02:05:53 am
Seriously, a refugee Cyberman?
What's wrong with that? A Cyberman's main function is survival, if the best way to do that is asking for asylum why wouldn't it? The idea that it might fear a painful death more than a quick was was pretty daft though, you can probably put that down to immortal viking girl not actually having a clue what she's doing.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 26, 2015, 10:02:58 am
Well actually wasn't the whole point of cybermen to remove human "weaknesses" and fears like pain? Presumably a quantum witchcraft ghost bird hurts even if you're a robot so they'd be robospooked by it.

Also probably just a cyberman that went wrong and developed feelings. Happens all the time.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on November 26, 2015, 05:38:47 pm
Well actually wasn't the whole point of cybermen to remove human "weaknesses" and fears like pain?

Assuming it wasn't a Cybusmen then the original imperative to become like that was surviving the natural disaster that was Mondas being ejected from the Solar System
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Mr. Wizard on November 26, 2015, 08:30:09 pm
The guitar is legit. Don't hate on the guitar. Somebody make the guitar the new sonic device.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on November 28, 2015, 01:51:19 pm
Oh hell no <----My reaction to latest episode

Calling it,hell bent has the Doctor commanding an army to destroy the last of the timelords <--- Speculation for next week's episode
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 28, 2015, 06:22:04 pm
I loooooved. LOVED that episode.

Capaldi now officially my favourite Doctor.

Doctor of the Eternity all Eternities.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Neoadept on November 28, 2015, 07:40:14 pm
One hell of a bird.

Sorry, still basking in the glory of Thanksgiving dinner.  The episode was okay too, I guess.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Mr. Wizard on November 29, 2015, 05:07:12 pm
This episode was very good. It reminded me why Moffat was put in the driver seat to begin with. He is at his best writing fables, fairy tales, and mythic stories, and this is another example of that. It's not logical, it's really nonsensical, but you forgive it. The atmosphere, the dream-like rules of the setting, and the heroic determination of the Doctor, that's what makes this episode good, and possibly great.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Neoadept on December 05, 2015, 07:47:22 pm
That was the ending Donna Noble deserved.

Clara never really seemed to achieve the kind of best friends status that warrants a space diner.

And Galifrey Reborn was pretty underwhelming.  Apparently it is, in fact, easier to trick and manipulate Time Lords than any of the maniacs he usually deals with.  And Rassilon is incrediblt ineffective on several levels.

Moffat is really good at fairy tales and really bad at finales.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Haseri on December 06, 2015, 01:46:16 am
I saw on Reddit a suggestion the parts on Gallifrey was merely setting up for the future - at the ends of the universe, possibly ruled by the military and the Sisterhood of Karn, with Rassilon (a much cheaper Rassilon, I'll bet) and the High Council brooding in their TARDIS.

They're back, but the Doctor only used them to get to Clara this time around. Who knows what they have in store for him in the future?
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 06, 2015, 04:04:05 am
I think the Hybrid is Clara, because in some half-assed way she's half Doctor, half Companion. They keep sort of shoehorning in the idea that she's somehow becoming the Doctor, and Moffat just can't resist making the companion some sort of special magical destiny person with some sort of unique connection with the Doctor.

That's my dumb theory.

Oh hey looks like I was basically right.

I wish just for once they'd actually kill a companion. JUST ONCE.

They almost sort of did it with River in her first appearance but now she's coming back as well! It's a Christmas Miracle!
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on December 06, 2015, 02:02:55 pm
(http://b.1339.cf/aqrrqca.jpg)
Oh boy! New merchandise just in time for Christmas!


I saw on Reddit a suggestion the parts on Gallifrey was merely setting up for the future - at the ends of the universe, possibly ruled by the military and the Sisterhood of Karn, with Rassilon (a much cheaper Rassilon, I'll bet) and the High Council brooding in their TARDIS.

They're back, but the Doctor only used them to get to Clara this time around. Who knows what they have in store for him in the future?

Since Moffat taking over, every time there's been underwhelming dumb**** there's always some people suggesting that it's alright because it's only set up for some Super Cool story arc later.
Then the story arc will be underwhelming dumb**** that has hardly anything to do with the dumb**** that was an alleged set up for it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Slinky on December 06, 2015, 02:14:33 pm
I like the new screwdriver.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Haseri on May 08, 2017, 03:40:41 am
A year later...

I'm enjoying this new series so far.

The Pilot introduced a Doctor/Companion relationship that we haven't seen in a while. I was worried when it was announced that Bill was gay that it was the only way Moffat could make sure his female characters don't fall in love with his main characters is to turn them off the entire sex. But it's actually pretty fun, in a way we haven't seen since Donna, I don't think. I think Bill and Heather's relationship (and Heather's character all-around) could have been more developed, but a strong start to the season.

Smile was good up until another human being appeared. The Doctor and Bill walking around a ghost town, trying to figure out what happened while being chased by slow robots, then a ticking clock because the colonists are about to wake up and it will be a massacre. Instead, the Doctor went "Ah, f' it, let's leave the humans at the mercy of a bunch of robots they can't communicate with". Still a million times better than In The Forest Of The Night.

Thin Ice did something to fix a problem that was really bad in Matt Smith's last season in particular. It breathed. We saw Bill and the Doctor have fun instead of running straight into the plot. The fun continued through the rest of the episode, with a lot of echos of The Unquiet Dead, Rose's introduction to the past. Bill asked the right questions and I think we got the right answers. We saw the Doctor's own brand of kindness, and I like it when we're reminded that the Doctor isn't human.

Knock, Knock was a creepy, creepy episode. David Suchet is a wonderful actor, and the design on the house was great. It subverted the horror trope of the victims being arseholes and deserving their fate. They were just normal students, none of them being the stereotype (which I know exist), with their weird interests. Though again, they could be more developed. Dunno why any freshers party would be allowed near fireworks.

Oxygen looks like something my players should be worried about if/when we start that Traveller campaign. And the three episodes after that apparently form a mini-trilogy which will be fun.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 08, 2017, 06:04:59 am
Yeah this is looking like the strongest season for Capaldi which is sad since he's leaving. I don't know if it's due to the fact he' stepping back and relinquishing more creative control but these new episodes just don't feel like Moffat (in a good way). If Bill turns out to not be a normo and has some sort of special destiny or her mum was an alien or something I'm going to hulk out and punch Moffat in the dick.

Also: It's definitely the Master in that vault
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on May 08, 2017, 11:12:05 am
No its definitely Clara inside the vault 
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Haseri on May 14, 2017, 03:08:43 am
There's something about this show. I was feeling terrible all day yesterday, to the point where I had to go back to my parent's for the night because it was all too much. But watching last night's episode made me feel a little bit better.

I'll say it again, I'm loving this series so far. I hope Mathieson is regular staple of Chibnall's run.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 14, 2017, 11:47:52 am
Yeah it was a pretty dope episode. Nice and simple. Back to basics.

Man that moffat metaplot stuff got old fast.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on June 24, 2017, 11:38:18 am
Bumping the latest  is bonkers

The doctor's companion is now a cyberman!
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 25, 2017, 02:14:27 pm
Good ep if a bit heavy on the usual Moffat fanwank but I think we can forgive it as it's his last bow.

I'm pretty sure this episode contained the creepiest **** I've ever seen in Doctor Who and the scifi setup with the mega-ship reversing away from the black hole is ****ing great.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on June 25, 2017, 02:25:51 pm
You know what's really amazing?

No weeping angels at all this season.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 25, 2017, 02:50:26 pm
Uh, except they were, at the beginning of The Lie of the Land :Y
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Ultimatum on June 25, 2017, 03:00:42 pm
Not seen that one,I  assumed they were absent
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Brandonazz on June 25, 2017, 04:00:25 pm
I was like 'how do these spacefaring aliens not know what general relativity is?' before the Doctor brought it up, but thankfully they addressed it by pointing out he was talking to a janitor, exposition, and comic relief.

Also what the hell is that ship made of? That kind of gravity differential could shred stuff at a microscopic level.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 25, 2017, 04:20:36 pm
It's made of Janitorium.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on June 26, 2017, 07:49:37 am
Good ep if a bit heavy on the usual Moffat fanwank but I think we can forgive it as it's his last bow.

I can forgive it because I really ****ing like the sockhead design. It's the only Cyberman that's really creepy in how it seems more like there's a mutilated human under a thin shell rather than it just being a humanoid robot.
They did a good job getting the Cybermen away from being a space-zombie/Borg ripoff and capturing the real horror of people choosing to turn themselves into emotionless cyborgs as a desperate survival strategy.

It was good stuff. I expect the next episode to be extra disappointing.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 26, 2017, 08:22:53 am
That's always the way with finales though. The promise of a really strong first episode can never be fulfilled in the second part. Heaven Sent (Capaldi's "solo episode") is probably my current favourite episode of all time and despite some nice Gallifrey fanservice the concluding part was pretty pants.

And totally agree on the sockheads. The Cybermen have always been a decent monster but back in the day they quickly came "generic baddies" who had plots where the villain could have easily been Sontarans or Ice Warriors or pretty much anything else instead, then in the revived series they became a hivemind borg knockoff which they never really were to begin with. Luckily Neil Gaiman sort of ran with that in an interesting direction and gave them a bit more personality and worked back in the survival at all costs angle. Cool to see them come full circle and amp up the medical body horror stuff as far as it'll go in a show that's allegedly for kids :P
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Person21 on June 26, 2017, 09:01:50 am
That's always the way with finales though. The promise of a really strong first episode can never be fulfilled in the second part.
The show's been fumbling followups in general. "I bet the guys who can accurately simulate the Earth down to Doctor Who's magic glasses working and interfacing with the real one will need some really clever and unpredictable plan some guys running into their base with guns and the power of love to be beat."

I agree on Heaven Sent. It was the right mix of weird concept and strong character stuff with the Doctor, like the kind of thing that got Moffat noticed when he wasn't having to crank out billions and billions of scripts.

Quote
The Cybermen have always been a decent monster but back in the day they quickly came "generic baddies" who had plots where the villain could have easily been Sontarans or Ice Warriors or pretty much anything else instead
Remember that time the emotionless cyborgs got so full of hatred and anger at Adric Earth they decided to get revenge on it by destroying it?
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The case of the sonic glasses
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 26, 2017, 09:13:04 am
Remember when the cybermen pretended to be the loch ness monster?
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Person21 on June 26, 2017, 09:31:11 am
Which Loch Ness monster?
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 26, 2017, 10:56:12 am
The one that was a cyberman.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Ultimatum on July 01, 2017, 11:42:25 am
A decent final,I must say!

Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Neoadept on July 01, 2017, 11:57:44 am
Yeah, Moffat actually stuck the landing this time around.  Bill's getaway was a little fairy tale, but actually had groundwork laid out ahead of time and felt deserved.  And Missy's exit was superb.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Ultimatum on July 01, 2017, 12:20:28 pm
For a moment I thought The doctor would use his regeneration powers to change her back into a human,somehow

Still i like how she gets to live on
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 02, 2017, 02:23:10 am
What had better happen is that Bill has a couple of adventures, realises "Uh, actually I'm not that into magic puddles mate, sorry" gets turned back into a regular human and immediately bumps into the freshly regenerated Doctor. "It all worked out in the end Doctor, no hard feelings" and adventures with Best CompanionTM resume.

But yeah, was pretty good. It seems appropriate that Capaldi bows out on a really rather low stakes caper, and his David Tennant impression was eerily spot on.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Mr. Wizard on July 05, 2017, 09:23:59 pm
Yeah, seems it left Bill's fate open. Seems to have also left The Master's fate open. When the Master next surfaces, will it be a regenerated Missy or a regenerated Master? The direction for the series is also very open. I hope they can seize on that openness and come up with something truly wonderful.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Haseri on July 16, 2017, 12:47:42 pm
So, what do people think of the 13th Doctor?

I, for one, love it.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Ultimatum on July 16, 2017, 04:16:40 pm
I am outraged!

shaking with fury

writing angry letters to the bbc as we speak!

(just kidding,love it too)
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 16, 2017, 04:28:42 pm
Looking forward to experiencing what the fangirls experienced with David Tennant.

I'm talking about experiencing it in my pants.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Brandonazz on July 17, 2017, 09:37:30 pm
I was hoping it would be someone I recognized.

But ok.
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 18, 2017, 04:26:30 am
If you look at the track record that's almost never going to be the case.

The norm with casting the doctor is to go for established but relatively unknown actors. Aside from stunt castings like John Hurt the actors cast as the doctor tend to be accomplished tv actors at most (if they've been in movies they tend to be in cult stuff like Paul McGann in Withnail and I) which would limit their international exposure pre-casting.

Looking at just the revived series. Christopher Eccleston mostly did british cult movies, David Tennant was an established theater actor with some reasonably high-profile tv roles (Cassanova) but no real international work, Matt Smith was totally unknown and apparently got the part purely on the strength of his audition, Peter Capaldi had been in plenty of tv as a character actor, but again, mostly cult stuff like the Thick of It and had some bit parts in movies (before he was officially announced he was in World War Z credited as "WHO Doctor").

It has more money to play with than it used to but Doctor Who is still a British TV show which means they don't have the budget to pay a big star salary. People like Idris Elba and Tilda Swinton were never really that likely because they can probably earn the same money doing a single marvel or James Bond movie that they would doing an entire season of Doctor Who (which apparently has a long, punishing filming scheduel). There's also apparently considerations about career trajectory. A role like the Doctor can elevate a moderately well known actor into international stardom but if the role were taken by someone who's already a huge star it would probably give the preception that their career is on the rocks and they have to resort to easy popularity with a show for NERD KIDS.

Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Mr. Wizard on July 21, 2017, 07:53:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do-wDPoC6GM
Title: Re: Doctor Who - The Regeneration Game
Post by: Ultimatum on July 22, 2017, 05:24:38 am
that episode is 100 percent canon