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Title: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 06, 2006, 06:20:50 pm
This is just a thought of mine but I think that of someone could give a list of the Civilizations of the forum and like give them a number from 1 to 10 depending on powerful they are. I think it give newbies(including me) a sense of how powerful the different Races are and the standing in the Universe. Although its probably a really stupid idea but whatever I thought it could be interesting. :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: tooma125 on July 06, 2006, 06:41:30 pm
I know its been a long time...One should go through the creature list and then # if they wish to continue this thread, or pick the top creatures and # them... Just a thought.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 07, 2006, 08:23:59 am
I suggested doing this a while back, but it wqould take ages

Superpowers:
Torpals, Nauceans, ViS
Major Powers:
Auyuelcliads, Urshan, Icthians, Wexxians, Rinthuu, Oifan-Umtag, Sombrerons, Caarnth, Ghulos, Squillisks, Quillaran, Serlan
Lesser Powers:
Kangor, Omic, Syrbor, Snepres, Forthi, Yunimuis

Alot have bene omitted, its just a quick list.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 07, 2006, 08:40:01 am
I suggested doing this a while back, but it wqould take ages

Superpowers:
Torpals, Nauceans, ViS
Major Powers:
Auyuelcliads, Urshan, Icthians, Wexxians, Rinthuu, Oifan-Umtag, Sombrerons, Caarnth, Ghulos, Squillisks, Quillaran, Serlan
Lesser Powers:
Kangor, Omic, Syrbor, Snepres, Forthi, Yunimuis

Alot have bene omitted, its just a quick list.

Put the Necromonicon as superpower with a dash through them like caarth cause they're gone now, and you need a section like "civilians" where the Gryfon, Sombreron, Fungoidians etc. can be placed.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 07, 2006, 08:52:39 am
You do it Necro:p
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Xarionis on July 07, 2006, 08:54:14 am
Booyah, I'm a major power. TWICE OVER :D.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Flisch on July 07, 2006, 09:58:10 am
Lesser Powers:
Snepres

i didnt know that the snepres are even any power LOL
(at the moment ^^)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on July 07, 2006, 09:59:22 am
The Turnaqs might be a lesser power...I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: tooma125 on July 07, 2006, 11:17:24 am
If there was a "middle-power", between major and lesser, than the Matarissans would be there, in relation to the time and effort put into them...thoughts?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Oviraptor on July 07, 2006, 11:20:19 am
Sweet,the Oifan-Umtag are a Major power. I do agree, even though I am not big on RPing.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 07, 2006, 11:21:51 am
If there was a "middle-power", between major and lesser, than the Matarissans would be there, in relation to the time and effort put into them...thoughts?

I agree, also twould be nice if the Omic were on that part too. :p
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 07, 2006, 11:34:55 am
Yeah, this is why it should be done with numbers, so you don't have to make up names for it all. Also, Necromincon a superpower? Phah! You made a description of some of there evolution and belief then strapped them to a rocket.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Flisch on July 07, 2006, 11:45:01 am
i thought this is an overview how much power the different races do have in the imaginative universe and not how popular they are† ???
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 07, 2006, 11:53:50 am
It is I think
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on July 07, 2006, 11:55:44 am
My creatures are gods, that's why they aren't even on the list 8)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 07, 2006, 12:17:35 pm
It is based off a lot of factors.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Flisch on July 07, 2006, 12:35:17 pm
It is based off a lot of factors.

which are?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 07, 2006, 01:06:16 pm
Mainly its a big popularity contest and us cliquey regular posetrs pat each other on the back and throw praise around at the expense of you underdogs. Its all a big conspiracy. No seriously, factors are things like: How good your creature is (this is based on the opinions of others, not your own opinion), how hard youve worked on your creature, Pictures (yes, i'm afraid they are pretty necessary) and some other stuff.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 07, 2006, 03:59:44 pm
I've done a lot of work, I just can't put most of it up for mutiple reasons.   :'(

To get it started, I think that Naucean = 10 according to everyone else. Objections?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 07, 2006, 09:15:16 pm
If anything, it should be judged by who was here the longest (the first to reach the space stage, and thus move forward in technology more than the other races) and by who put in the most effort, including creativity (although i don't know how this would be judged. Everyone is going to say that their creature is the most creative while dissing everybody else's). Overall this thread will probably lead to a huge argument.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 07, 2006, 10:07:05 pm
The Kazea are somwhere up there.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 07, 2006, 10:42:11 pm
Yeah I really didnt want to start an arguement or anything, so maybe this thread was kinda a bad idea, but no ones started an arguement yet so maybe this will work out.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 07, 2006, 11:23:54 pm
i was bored...here's a rough guesstimate i did with a decent amount of races

Super Powers
Naucean
Torpal
ViS

Major Powers
Anubian
Serlan† †
xx
Necromonicon
Oifan-Umtag
Auyuelcliads
Wexxians
Icthians
Urshans
Boabas
Lermiun
Borark

Minor Powers
Kratok
Omic
Kangorians
Quillaran
Matarissans†
Micanex
KOR
∆thirans
Ptashki
Gryfon
Fuffel
Garganommoth
Squillisk
Ryndalians
Xometrians
Tiki
Rinthuu
Kawona/Kawenu
Ghulos
Kharazeans
Mallen
Tuiropar
Culid
Teshlin

Obscure Powers
Turnaqs
Mikans
Yunimius
Snepres
Forthi†
Syrbor
Esrever
Kaldri
Shewaf
Burinee
Peskitoriantais
Tapanzee
Gemmifer
The Eodu
Kharoi† †
Zrithig
Harak-Hir
Rokose†
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 07, 2006, 11:30:42 pm
You might also want to put extinct creatures in a different level. Im glad im not just obscure. Also, though I might just be a bit jealous  ::) I dont think the Necromonicon should be a major since they never actually invented any of there own technology till the Sirron ships.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 07, 2006, 11:35:52 pm
Nice list ,Opera! That can be the basic guideline for now. Maybe someone should post a "Creature Guidelines" Or "Why we can defeat a turtle with an extra arm" Thread?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 07, 2006, 11:48:55 pm
So operaghost21 where is the Kazea on the list? They made it ti the spce age, but have not contacted any other races other than the Naucean observing them and way wya later they are in the Prison Escape game.

Or what about the Boabas, Lermiun, Borark or Teshlin? Those are some of my favorites.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 07, 2006, 11:57:45 pm
So operaghost21 where is the Kazea on the list? They made it ti the spce age, but have not contacted any other races other than the Naucean observing them and way wya later they are in the Prison Escape game.


i'm not sure...i would say they'd be a super power or major power, but the only reason i didn't was because they hadn't contacted other races...i'll put them up there, if you want


and i'll add the other guys too
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 08, 2006, 01:02:54 am
Now I like that list! The position of the Omic is soemthing I can live with. *Turns on ms paint and attempts to draw a million pictures, also thinks up every second of Omic history* must h=get higher, must get higher...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 08, 2006, 01:19:57 am
So operaghost21 where is the Kazea on the list? They made it ti the spce age, but have not contacted any other races other than the Naucean observing them and way wya later they are in the Prison Escape game.


i'm not sure...i would say they'd be a super power or major power, but the only reason i didn't was because they hadn't contacted other races...i'll put them up there, if you want


and i'll add the other guys too

The Kazea are probbly major power for the fact of all the effort put into them, but not a super power becuase the lack of participation on the fanfic RP threads.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 08, 2006, 01:25:34 am
I would say that the Ryndalians WOULD be a superpower, but  that would be if the entire race actually banded together. They are subdivided so many times over that each individual group is not very infulentual at all so Minor power fits pretty well. though I intend to put some more into them, as soon as I know what people want next.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 08, 2006, 01:27:25 am
Super Powers
Naucean
Torpal
ViS

Major Powers
Anubian
Serlan
Kazea 
xx
Necromonicon
Oifan-Umtag
Auyuelcliads
Wexxians
Icthians
Urshans
Boabas
Lermiun
Borark

Minor Powers
Kratok
Omic
Kangorians
Quillaran
Matarissans 
Micanex
KOR
∆thirans
Ptashki
Gryfon
Fuffel
Garganommoth
Squillisk
Ryndalians
Xometrians
Tiki
Rinthuu
Kawona/Kawenu
Ghulos
Kharazeans
Mallen
Tuiropar
Culid
Teshlin

Obscure Powers
Turnaqs
Mikans
Yunimius
Snepres
Forthi 
Syrbor
Esrever
Kaldri
Shewaf
Burinee
Peskitoriantais
Tapanzee
Gemmifer
The Eodu
Kharoi   
Zrithig
Harak-Hir
Rokose 

There, I added the Kazea
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 08, 2006, 01:37:23 am
I still say we put an area for extinct or uncontinued creatures.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 08, 2006, 01:40:15 am
We'll put a star next to them, which ones are extinct or uncontinued?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 08, 2006, 01:55:16 am
I still say we put an area for extinct or uncontinued creatures.

How do you determine uncontinued?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 08, 2006, 01:56:30 am
When the last post about them was over a month or two? Ofcourse, if there was an exuse that wouldint count.

Theres also ofcourse when they declare the race dead.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 08, 2006, 01:59:41 am
I agree with Kratok. Guys like the Fungoidian are never updated. They should have a star. Assuming this chart take places after the Prison Escape, Extinct species should get a dash through them (thats the Necromonicon, Kril'Pok"Kans, Caarth... possibly more). Also I need my Tortullakeet added in there under Obscure.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 08, 2006, 02:00:09 am
Ok, because soem have disapeared for months like the Quillaran but have recently coem back from the dead. While ones like the Boabas have disapeared off into oblivion.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 08, 2006, 02:36:31 am
I dont think the Necromonicon should be a major since they never actually invented any of there own technology till the Sirron ships.
Thats irrelevant. if we judged it on what people say their creatures have then everyone would say they have ultimate technology just so they can be superpowers. Really the technology comes with the rank, not the other way round. Thats why only Nauceans get to have time travel.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 08, 2006, 02:39:13 am
I'm sorry but doesint it still seem they have just some small info, popular or not?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 08, 2006, 03:03:30 am
I'm sorry but doesint it still seem they have just some small info, popular or not?

My 14 paged home thread beats your 7 pages :P

Plus the ND threads have oodles of other info on the Necromonicon.

I just think you're jealous.

Anyway, to stay on topic, I say once again we need stars and dashes to count in/out certain species.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 08, 2006, 03:09:57 am
Super Powers
Naucean
Torpal
ViS

Major Powers
Anubian
Serlan
Kazea
xx
Necromonicon
Oifan-Umtag
Auyuelcliads
Wexxians
Icthians
Urshans
Boabas
Lermiun
Borark

Minor Powers
Kratok
Omic
Kangorians
Quillaran
Matarissans
Micanex
KOR
∆thirans
Ptashki
Gryfon
Fuffel
Garganommoth
Squillisk
Ryndalians
Xometrians
Tiki
Rinthuu
Kawona/Kawenu
Ghulos
Kharazeans
Mallen
Tuiropar
Culid
Teshlin

Obscure Powers
Turnaqs
Mikans
Yunimius
Snepres
Forthi
Syrbor
Esrever
Kaldri
Shewaf
Burinee
Peskitoriantais*
Tapanzee
Gemmifer
The Eodu
Kharoi
Zrithig
Harak-Hir
Rokose
Tortullakeet

* Uncontinued

I really don't know what I'm doing here so I need someone to give me a list of extinct and uncontinued.  :-\

 I think the Kawona/Kawenu are extinct, aren't they?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 08, 2006, 03:19:29 am
The Kawona are 'discontinued' (they went to build a new galaxy) the Kawenu are extinct.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 08, 2006, 03:27:41 am
about making updates, nope I would rather make a lot of different creatures, like in my creature topic
http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=3198.0
so dont expect to see more baobasses.

So i guess they are discontinued
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 08, 2006, 04:27:14 am
Hmm. I'm on the obscure powers list. What is the definition of obscure? When googled I got the result "unclear".
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 08, 2006, 08:43:08 am
Yaay im a minor power! Just have to do alot more wars or something and I can move up to major someday. (looks out window longingly)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: nuclearchinchila on July 08, 2006, 09:11:18 am
Woot woot! does this mean the Syrbor are a major power??
EDIT: ok nevermind, they're a minor
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 08, 2006, 01:13:52 pm
Nice list ,Opera! That can be the basic guideline for now. Maybe someone should post a "Creature Guidelines" Or "Why we can defeat a turtle with an extra arm" Thread?

I might add that to my RP guidelines thread somewhere. I have a request for a GM guide already, I can expand it a little.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Aegis on July 08, 2006, 02:28:44 pm
i was bored...here's a rough guesstimate i did with a decent amount of races

Super Powers
Naucean
Torpal
ViS

Major Powers
Anubian
Serlan   
xx
Necromonicon
Oifan-Umtag
Auyuelcliads
Wexxians
Icthians
Urshans
Boabas
Lermiun
Borark

Minor Powers
Kratok
Omic
Kangorians
Quillaran
Matarissans 
Micanex
KOR
∆thirans
Ptashki
Gryfon
Fuffel
Garganommoth
Squillisk
Ryndalians
Xometrians
Tiki
Rinthuu
Kawona/Kawenu
Ghulos
Kharazeans
Mallen
Tuiropar
Culid
Teshlin

Obscure Powers
Turnaqs
Mikans
Yunimius
Snepres
Forthi 
Syrbor
Esrever
Kaldri
Shewaf
Burinee
Peskitoriantais
Tapanzee
Gemmifer
The Eodu
Kharoi   
Zrithig
Harak-Hir
Rokose 


:( You didn't even INCLUDE Talcea.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 08, 2006, 02:32:20 pm
I think we can safely say that any omissions go in the Obscure Powers bracket.

Yay! I'm like China!  :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on July 08, 2006, 02:36:21 pm
I agree with Turnaqs being obscure. They are just beggining with intersolar relations. Soon they will be minor or even major, I hope.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 08, 2006, 02:39:35 pm
I'm sorry but doesint it still seem they have just some small info, popular or not?

Many races (the Icthians, for example) have most of their info in other threads than their own. In fact, it would take me ages to put everything I've written in my own thread. It's not about thread size, but about participation.

Also, I have added a note to my RP guide. I will elaborate this when I have time.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: DoggySpew on July 08, 2006, 03:14:08 pm
Like it's commonly said, dedication/originality/amount of info/pictures/longevity = respect and critique from other readers = race power. This keeps things at a healthy level of competition I would say, so rather than ten zillion poorly-defined bit races running around, you get a quality over quantity effect whereby the more effort and dedication you pour into your creation, the more powerful they become in RP as a result. Longevity also helps (just look at Hydromancer), but I would say effort comes first, and that if you put in the effort, you get respect, which will allow you to do more things, which will result in your creature staying around longer. Here's my interpretation of the powers:

Super Powers
IRL, you would analogue these to large, powerful and resourceful countries like America or China. Everyone knows of them and knows their power. They might not neccecarily respect or like them, but the fact remains that they are by far a major player in intergalactic affairs. These are creatures which have a vast wealth of info, are well-known on the RP to a sort of iconic extent, or have been around a looooong time.

Major Powers
In my mind, these analogue to countries like England, Japan or Germany. They're well known and contribute to the galactic affairs in their own way. Not overwhelmingly powerful like the Nauceans or ViS, but still playing a significant enough role in the scheme of things. These creatures are pretty much just a step down from superpowers. They're not iconic, but they are fairly well known, and fleshed out to a decent degree. Even recent joiners can ascend to this level if enough effort is put in.

Minor Powers
These would analogue to places like... I dunno, Iraq or Iceland. People know about em, they have an established identity, but they don't contribute as much to the grand scheme of things as the major powers. Again, it's just a step down. Creatures in this category have established a paticular identity, but havent been fleshed out enough to put much of a dent in history. However, a completley new creature with enough information right off the bat would land in this category, IMO.

Obscure Powers
These would analogue to those countries off in the corner that some people dont even know about. The majority have yet to acknowledge them, but when they do they will be elevated to Minor Power pretty quickly. I think this category is more for total newcomer creatures than anything else, because i've yet to see anyone make a creature with next to no info..

I would vote my creature (The Esrever) to be placed in the "Minor Powers" section. My creature isn't totally obscure I think.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 08, 2006, 04:11:32 pm
Like it's commonly said, dedication/originality/amount of info/pictures/longevity = respect and critique from other readers = race power. This keeps things at a healthy level of competition I would say, so rather than ten zillion poorly-defined bit races running around, you get a quality over quantity effect whereby the more effort and dedication you pour into your creation, the more powerful they become in RP as a result. Longevity also helps (just look at Hydromancer), but I would say effort comes first, and that if you put in the effort, you get respect, which will allow you to do more things, which will result in your creature staying around longer. Here's my interpretation of the powers:

Super Powers
IRL, you would analogue these to large, powerful and resourceful countries like America or China. Everyone knows of them and knows their power. They might not neccecarily respect or like them, but the fact remains that they are by far a major player in intergalactic affairs. These are creatures which have a vast wealth of info, are well-known on the RP to a sort of iconic extent, or have been around a looooong time.

Major Powers
In my mind, these analogue to countries like England, Japan or Germany. They're well known and contribute to the galactic affairs in their own way. Not overwhelmingly powerful like the Nauceans or ViS, but still playing a significant enough role in the scheme of things. These creatures are pretty much just a step down from superpowers. They're not iconic, but they are fairly well known, and fleshed out to a decent degree. Even recent joiners can ascend to this level if enough effort is put in.

Minor Powers
These would analogue to places like... I dunno, Iraq or Iceland. People know about em, they have an established identity, but they don't contribute as much to the grand scheme of things as the major powers. Again, it's just a step down. Creatures in this category have established a paticular identity, but havent been fleshed out enough to put much of a dent in history. However, a completley new creature with enough information right off the bat would land in this category, IMO.

Obscure Powers
These would analogue to those countries off in the corner that some people dont even know about. The majority have yet to acknowledge them, but when they do they will be elevated to Minor Power pretty quickly. I think this category is more for total newcomer creatures than anything else, because i've yet to see anyone make a creature with next to no info..

I would vote my creature (The Esrever) to be placed in the "Minor Powers" section. My creature isn't totally obscure I think.

 I agree.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Xarionis on July 08, 2006, 04:16:54 pm
I think my guys should be put into the Obscure Powers section. It's not that they aren't powerful, it's just that they don't contribute much. The Squillisk are too introverted and the Ghulos don't really care that much about other species.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: a14gt on July 09, 2006, 10:11:16 am
I think my guys should be put into the Obscure Powers section. It's not that they aren't powerful, it's just that they don't contribute much. The Squillisk are too introverted and the Ghulos don't really care that much about other species.
oh man i sent my squad to check these guys out and they don't even care,i gotta take them out since they gonna be the main characters in my fan fic.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 09, 2006, 10:17:56 am
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 09, 2006, 10:29:05 am
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 09, 2006, 10:32:53 am
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
They are the unofficial "Noobs Alliance."...And "Auyuelcliad Wannnabes Alliance."

Naahhh...they're cool..

Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 09, 2006, 12:31:25 pm
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
They are the unofficial "Noobs Alliance."...And "Auyuelcliad Wannnabes Alliance."

Naahhh...they're cool..


Thanks alot... Lol. Although we are trying to be the Peacemakers of the Universe...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: nuclearchinchila on July 09, 2006, 12:57:24 pm
Thanks alot... Lol. Although we are trying to be the Peacemakers of the Universe...

Well, you might have some trouble with that if your Kangorian friends are running around killing their brethren just for being living creatures.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 09, 2006, 01:10:01 pm
perhaps "Lesser powers" could be in-between Major and Minor?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 09, 2006, 03:25:23 pm
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
They are the unofficial "Noobs Alliance."...And "Auyuelcliad Wannnabes Alliance."

Naahhh...they're cool..


I'm going on the assuption they are an alliance of blind species. No sight = no pictures
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 09, 2006, 04:02:28 pm
I'm not agreeing with my creature being obscure. By now a good amount of people know of them and the Ulinium War was experienced  by quite a few races. Also, my creature isn't infoless like the tutle-with-an-extra-arm!</rant>
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 09, 2006, 04:22:51 pm
I'm not agreeing with my creature being obscure. By now a good amount of people know of them and the Ulinium War was experienced  by quite a few races. Also, my creature isn't infoless like the tutle-with-an-extra-arm!</rant>

Check time:

1. How long have you been here?
2. How many posts have you made in character?
3. How much detail is there?

Now compare the answers you get to those of other races.

I didn't even hear about the Ulinium war. Who was involved?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 09, 2006, 04:27:15 pm
Daxx, it was a rant
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 09, 2006, 04:30:47 pm
Daxx, it was a rant

Rants are forbidden by the forum rules, so I thought I'd take it as a serious question. Seriously though, you understand why, don't you?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 09, 2006, 04:47:19 pm
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
They are the unofficial "Noobs Alliance."...And "Auyuelcliad Wannnabes Alliance."

Naahhh...they're cool..




I remeber hearing that kind of thing about O.T.H.E.R. a while back....   ;)

As for the rant, I've seen a lot of those and this is the first time it has even been mentioned that it is against the rules.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 09, 2006, 04:48:32 pm
Rule 5. You need to read them, Genesis. Didn't I tell you that before?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 09, 2006, 04:59:40 pm
Rants, sarcasm. I know the difference, but the terms are used for the same thing sometimes.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 09, 2006, 05:25:45 pm
Yeah i realize the Kangorians are running rampant, but we are trying to settle them down. But Krakow Sam, what are you talking about no pictures?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 09, 2006, 05:56:09 pm
There's few pictures in the DUP thread or about anything DUP related. IMO it's not a critical blow to integrity, but it does perhaps display that the dedication to the whole shebang isn't what it could be.

What do you want pictures of? All the creatures getting together and holding hands/tentacles/other strange appendages and singing Kumba Ya (or the alien equivalent)?
lol

(what did i say... this thread is becoming a huge argument!)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Areku on July 09, 2006, 08:00:32 pm
tutle-with-an-extra-arm!</rant>
What is this creature you speak of?  ???
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 09, 2006, 08:31:41 pm
The Klickan.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 09, 2006, 09:20:35 pm
What about some sorrta of calucation like ...

M = Number of Months sicne started creature.
P = Number of Pages in Creature thread.
R = Number of Role Playing threads you have particapated in.

M + P + R = How powerful

So for Nauceans would be 9 months, 97 pages, aprox 10 Role Playing Threads = about 116 Power Score
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Vivec on July 09, 2006, 09:21:45 pm
I dunno about pages...I mean, a bunch of yours is part spam, and then you had to lock it and stuff.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 09, 2006, 09:26:22 pm
I dunno about pages...I mean, a bunch of yours is part spam, and then you had to lock it and stuff.

 But thats popularity. All pages that are spam or comments count under a popularity value. See?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 09, 2006, 09:29:46 pm
I think that this would be a little more accurate....

1/2W + P + 2R = Power Lvl.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Vivec on July 09, 2006, 09:30:28 pm
Well, some of the spam was random off-topic crap.

(not that I have any say in this, not having a creature)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 09, 2006, 09:32:54 pm
idk, i think we should just keep it 'intuitive'
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 09, 2006, 09:37:04 pm
I think that this would be a little more accurate....

1/2W + P + 2R = Power Lvl.

Is W supose to be my M?

Cause i thought months were good. Cause it it were like days or weeks that woudl be too many. Months was a good way. Newbees would get like 1 or 2 while long term would get 8 to 9. Which is easier to make in with role playing or adding to your creature thread.

I would be more for ...

M + P + 2R = Power Lvl.

or even

M + P1/2 + 2R = Power Lvl

if you want to take half the spam out of the creature threads.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 09, 2006, 09:59:51 pm
W was supposed to be "Week" but I didn't really want to give that more leverage anyway.

How about M + 3/4P + 2R + 3A

A=Alliance
Tell me if that is not needed/wanted, it was a thought.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 09, 2006, 10:43:56 pm
W was supposed to be "Week" but I didn't really want to give that more leverage anyway.

How about M + 3/4P + 2R + 3A

A=Alliance
Tell me if that is not needed/wanted, it was a thought.

Alliance? You mean how many allances you are in? Like say the Torpals are in CAB, LAH, POP, S.W.U. and probbly soem other ones i missed. Thats already 12. I think they should count under the Role Playing threads, so say the The Ion-Games, Arcadia, CAB all count equally. Thus your total is that times 2.

M + 3/4P + 2R = Power Level

Sounds more reasonable. Now to calucate for the Naucean ...

9 = 9 Months
72.75 = 3/4 (97) Posts
20 = 2(~10) Role Playing / Alliance Threads
102 = 101.75 (round up)

102 = Power Level

How is that?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Areku on July 09, 2006, 11:24:57 pm
Quillaran...

6= 6 Months
3.75=  (5) Pages
4 = 2(*2) Role Playing / Alliance Threads
13.75= 12 (round up)

14 = Power Level

I feel weak.......  :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 09, 2006, 11:40:19 pm
awsome or not Quillrians were in a little number of things
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 09, 2006, 11:47:30 pm
Quillaran...

6= 6 Months
3.75=  (5) Pages
2 = 2(*1) Role Playing / Alliance Threads
11.75= 12 (round up)

12 = Power Level

I feel weak.......  :P

You were in Prison Escape and CAB Areku that should be 2 * (2 posts) so thats 4 .... power level 14 i think.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 09, 2006, 11:50:12 pm
hold on, are we going by pages or posts??? If pages, Naucean has lower power, if posts, Qullarian has higher power.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:09:25 am
hold on, are we going by pages or posts??? If pages, Naucean has lower power, if posts, Qullarian has higher power.

Pages, not posts.

And yes Nauceans really have a 97 page long thread now.

And your Necros have 14. But the real number that counts is 3/4(14) ... 10.5 = P

Then you have been ahere about a month Necro so that 1 = M

Ad you have been in 2 necro war threads, and part of a necro alliance, plus probbly somthing else i missed so thats ~ 5 (2)

P = 10.5
M = 1
R = 10
Power Level = 21.5 (round up)

So your Power Level is 22 Necro.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 12:14:24 am
for alliances/fanfics, is that by the things themselves, or the actual topics...like, there's 2 threads for the necrid war so far, halcyon had a few related threads...would those as one each, or several, for each topic?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 12:18:04 am
Necromonicon

1 = 1 month
11.25 = 3/4x15 pages
8 = 4x2 (2 RP, 1 alliance, 1 home thread)
20 = 20.25 rounded up

Thus, the Necromonicon (species) are power level 20.

My account, however, would be powered as such:

Necro
1 = 1 month
11.25 = 3/4x15 pages
8 = 4x2 (2 RP, 1 alliance, 1 home thread)
20 = 20.25 rounded down

Gryfon
.5 = half of a month
.3/4 = 3/4 of 1 page
8 = 4x2 ( 2 RP, 1 alliance, 1 home thread)
9 = 9.25 rounded down

Tortullakeet
.1 = a few days
1.5 = 3/4x2 pages
2 = 1x2(no RPs, no alliances, 1 home thread)
4 = 3.6 rounded up

20 + 9 + 4 = 31

Thus, my account TheNecromonicon (member) has a power rating of 33.



Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:18:53 am
for alliances/fanfics, is that by the things themselves, or the actual topics...like, there's 2 threads for the necrid war so far, halcyon had a few related threads...would those as one each, or several, for each topic?

Well i don;t think like the wepons thread or vechicle threads count... both necro wars count though i think.

Necromonicon

1 = 1 month
10.5 = 3/4x14 pages
4 = 2x2 (1 RP, 1 alliance)
42 = Total

Thus, the Necromonicon are power level 42.

OMG I'M THE ANSWER!!!! :o


We are adding not multiplying (otherwise my Nauceans would be 13095)

1 + 10.5 + 4 = 15.5 .... but you have more than jsut 2 role playing/alliances.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 12:25:26 am
Hahaha I know, I was just playing around to see what kind of cool numbers I could get. I'll add it up properly. Also, the Necromonicon (species) are only in The Necrid Discord and the NDA alliance. You only have one species, but I (meaning my 3 species combined) would be much greater on the ladder if all three were included in the same equation under my name.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:26:54 am
Hahaha I know, I was just playing around to see what kind of cool numbers I could get. I'll add it up properly. Also, the Necromonicon (species) are only in The Necrid Discord and the NDA alliance. You only have one species, but I (meaning my 3 species combined) would be much greater on the ladder if all three were included in the same equation under my name.

You would not want that, becuase i have a butt load of creatures ....  ;)

Oh btw your necro thread is up to 15 posts now ;) not 14 anymore :D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 12:29:38 am
Hahaha I know, I was just playing around to see what kind of cool numbers I could get. I'll add it up properly. Also, the Necromonicon (species) are only in The Necrid Discord and the NDA alliance. You only have one species, but I (meaning my 3 species combined) would be much greater on the ladder if all three were included in the same equation under my name.

You would not want that, becuase i have a butt load of creatures ....† ;)

The equation may only include SAPIENT creatures on the forum. No random critters who happen to live on the planet with sapients. You can't use the gobblehorn as a power base :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 12:30:10 am
okey dokey let's see...i think i did this right...

07 = 7 Months
18 = 3/4 (24) Pages
46 = 2(23)* Role Playing / Alliance Threads
71 = Total

Power Level = 71
i'm happy ;D †
edit: fixed. still happy†8)


*holy zesh i've been in alot† :o†:D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:43:20 am
Yeah that sounds about right. I was wondering how many you were in. I might have a little much with my 10.

I have ....

1. Prison Escape
2. CAB
3. LAH
4. Battle of Thishen
5. Scion Complex
6. Necro War 1
7. Arena Battle Planet ( started but stopped)
8. The Ion-Games (started but stopped)
9. Arcadia (started but stopped)
10. Various other thread such as in OTHER, and Creature Threads (everyone should just count this as one if you posted in other peoples threads contactign them or other alliances).

So i either have 10 or 6 depending upon how you look at it. What do you think? Should i count 7 to 10 as one and have just 7 role playing threads?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 12:45:13 am
There... my power levels are edited and accurate as of.... now.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:48:23 am
So we are counting one threads now? Whatever 10 sounded good for me anywho.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 12:55:55 am
im not sure now...these are what i counted:

1.Prison Escape
2.First Galactic War
3.The New - Prison Escape Adventure!
4.Coadunation of Autonomous Beings (CAB)
5.The LAH: League Against Halcyon
6.Arena Battle Planet
7.Events so far: Halycon Vs LAH
8.The Battle of Thishen
9.The End of the Halcyon War
10.Aegis Station Investigation
11.The Hunt For Jai Repxor
12.Ion-Grand Prix
13.The Siege of Antimon
14.The Ion-Games
15.The S.W.U.
16.The Reclaiming Of Durl
17.SWU Battlefield: Taking over the Planets
18.Scion Complex
19.The Necrid Discord War
20.New Alliance-POP
21.Arcadia
22.The Necrid Discord War (Part 2)
23.Pseudo Sequence: Chapter One: The Revloution
24.Casmut Tsull
25.The Galactic Embassy & Congress
26.First Galactic Encounter

i went by topics...should i make 5,7,8, and 9 count as one, for example?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 12:59:02 am
Here's what I based my calculations on:

2 times (# of RPs + # of alliances + 1 home thread)
3/4 times # of PAGES in home thread

Time your creature has been here in months is devided as:

.1 = a few days
.25 †= one week
.5 = two weeks, half a month
.75 = 3 weeks
1 = one month
2 = two months

ex: 4.75 would be 4 months 3 weeks, IF you can remember. If not, just round to the nearest month.

RP means EACH TOPIC. Ex: because the ND will be in three parts, if you participate in all three it will count as 3 RP's. If you only post in the first and third, you'd only get 2 RP's.

If you have multiple SAPIENT creatures, you may add their stats individually to find your ACCOUNT power.

Does everyone agree with this?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 12:59:50 am
im not sure now...these are what i counted:

1.Prison Escape
2.First Galactic War
3.The New - Prison Escape Adventure!
4.Coadunation of Autonomous Beings (CAB)
5.The LAH: League Against Halcyon
6.Arena Battle Planet
7.Events so far: Halycon Vs LAH
8.The Battle of Thishen
9.The End of the Halcyon War
10.Aegis Station Investigation
11.The Hunt For Jai Repxor
12.Ion-Grand Prix
13.The Siege of Antimon
14.The Ion-Games
15.The S.W.U.
16.The Reclaiming Of Durl
17.SWU Battlefield: Taking over the Planets
18.Scion Complex
19.The Necrid Discord War
20.New Alliance-POP
21.Arcadia
22.The Necrid Discord War (Part 2)
23.Pseudo Sequence: Chapter One: The Revloution
24.Casmut Tsull
25.The Galactic Embassy & Congress
26.First Galactic Encounter

i went by topics...should i make 5,7,8, and 9 count as one, for example?

I think those should not count. LAH counts as an alliance. end of the war is a just a summary, and the new prison escape was jsut a redo of the first part.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 01:06:24 am
sounds good to me

power level fixed
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 01:12:04 am
sounds good to me

power level fixed

you changed your total but not your power level, its still at 77.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 01:17:49 am
Ok so far ...

Naucean = 102

Torpal = 71

Omic = 32

Kazea = 29

Necromonicon = 20

Quillaran = 14

Gryfon = 9

Tortullakeet  = 4

Thats not too bad. Based on thsi we can figure out Super Powers, Major Powers, Lesser Powers, Minor Powers and Obscure Powers.

Mega Powers
101 to 120

Naucean = 102

Super Powers
81 and 100

Major Powers
61 to 80

Torpal = 71

Lesser  Powers
41 to 60

Minor Powers
21 to 40

Omic = 32
Kazea = 29

Obscure Powers
0 to 20

Necromonicon = 20
Quillaran = 14
Gryfon = 9
Tortullakeet  = 4


Geesh i i had to streach this one .... It still seems wrong ...  :-\
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 01:22:00 am
Torpal are at 71...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 01:28:43 am
i like the old way better  :-\
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 01:31:50 am
Omic is

Month(s) = 1
Page(s) = 20.25
RP(s) = 5
Alliance(s) = 2

= 28 points

Is that right?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 01:35:46 am
Omic is

Month(s) = 1
Page(s) = 20.25
RP(s) = 5
Alliance(s) = 2

= 28 points

Is that right?

ummm... no

its like this

1 = 1 month
15 = 3/4x20 pages
16 = 8x2 (5 RP's, 2 alliances, 1 home thread)
32 = 32

Omic are at power level 32.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 01:37:07 am
Yay makes me feel warm and bubbly inside, no wait I just wet myself....
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 01:40:17 am
Ok i added the Omic to the scale.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 01:42:11 am
Cool. :)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 01:44:17 am
I will do the Kazea ...

M = 7 Months
P = 3/4 (24) = 18 Posts
R = 2*1 (1 RP (Prison Escape), 0 Alliances)
Power Level = 33

Hmm that seems sad ....  :'(
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 01:46:06 am
Hmm that seems sad ....† :'(

which is why we shouldn't use numbers



we haven't figured anything else out officially, why start with this?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 01:47:25 am
OMG I'm higher than Necromonicon & Quillaran?!?!! cool!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 01:51:58 am
i like the old way better† :-\

Me too. I think 'number of fanfics participated in' is a poor indicator. For a start I'm getting bored of anew one popping up every day. I'm also having the ViS as aloof from anything that doesnt directly affect them precisely because theyre already powerful.

Also, about the new pictures thing. I dont care that there arent any 'alliance' pictures, but the fact that none of the member races seem to have any illustrations hurts their popularity and integrity. I cant even name one of them off the top of my head, but I can name most of the races of note in the CAB, OTHER and SWU.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 01:52:41 am
Hmm that seems sad ....  :'(

which is why we shouldn't use numbers

we haven't figured anything else out officially, why start with this?

Becuase i thought some sorrt of scale would be helpful. Rather than just one based upon perception. Perhaps a mixture of the 2 is better. Calulated score and perception score somehow mixed to make an over all score.

i like the old way better  :-\

Me too. I think 'number of fanfics participated in' is a poor indicator. For a start I'm getting bored of anew one popping up every day. I'm also having the ViS as aloof from anything that doesnt directly affect them precisely because theyre already powerful.

Also, about the new pictures thing. I dont care that there arent any 'alliance' pictures, but the fact that none of the member races seem to have any illustrations hurts their popularity and integrity. I cant even name one of them off the top of my head, but I can name most of the races of note in the CAB, OTHER and SWU.

So should pictures count? Should it be based on RP power? For isntance the necros are very weak on my scale but would ve very powerful according to the descriptions.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 01:53:53 am
I will do the Kazea ...

M = 7 Months
P = 3/4 (24) = 18 Posts
R = 2*1 (1 RP (Prison Escape), 0 Alliances)
Power Level = 33

Hmm that seems sad .... :'(

I notice you guys keep forgetting to add +1 home thread to RP and Alliances. Also, lable it as 18 pages, not 18 posts, to avoid confusion. by my count its

7 = 7 months
18 = 3/4x24 pages
4 = 2x2 (1 RP, 0 alliances, 1 home thread)
29 = 29

Kazea are power level 29.

If you want to change the system do it now, and remake this thread once everything is officially decided.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 01:54:39 am
i vote we go back to perception! who's with me?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on July 10, 2006, 01:56:55 am
It should focus on there main topic, cause rping doesint really make you stronger
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 01:58:59 am
How about this:

We take the total score we have, then deem on a scale of 1 - 10 the "perception" we have of their power, with 10 being Nauceans. The calculated first total is MULTIPLIED to the perception scale number chosen

Say, my Necromonicon at 20 are multiplied by 7 on the scale. Thus I'd be at 140.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 02:01:41 am
how do you number perception? thats kind of against the point...not to mention it's easily arguable


so no one's with me, i take it?
i dont care, i'll say sam's with me
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 02:03:53 am
i vote we go back to perception! who's with me?

I'm with you. You cant quantify respect. The only reason I agree to the Necro being so powerful is because he had the guts to just jump into a forum where no-one knew him and start this whole war deal. I think a good test is: How many people can name your creature off the top of their head? How many people can tell you what it looks like and what its characteristics are? I dont know what a Kratok is or does but I sure as hell know what the Nauceans or Torpals are about.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:06:03 am
yeah becuase for instance the Torpals would seem to be higher to be a super power (rather than a Major) while the Nauceans would seem to be lower for a super power (rather than an Mega power) according the the calculation scale as it is now.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:06:25 am
I'm just tossing out random suggestions here, don't take anything I say to heart. If you guys choose to go back to numberless perception I'm all for it.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:08:35 am
i vote we go back to perception! who's with me?

I'm with you. You cant quantify respect. The only reason I agree to the Necro being so powerful is because he had the guts to just jump into a forum where no-one knew him and start this whole war deal. I think a good test is: How many people can name your creature off the top of their head? How many people can tell you what it looks like and what its characteristics are? I dont know what a Kratok is or does but I sure as hell know what the Nauceans or Torpals are about.

Well we all know the super and most of the major powers but how do you decide who is the lesser and minor? And is there a tangable way for them to move up?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 02:10:24 am
i vote we go back to perception! who's with me?

I'm with you. You cant quantify respect. The only reason I agree to the Necro being so powerful is because he had the guts to just jump into a forum where no-one knew him and start this whole war deal. I think a good test is: How many people can name your creature off the top of their head? How many people can tell you what it looks like and what its characteristics are? I dont know what a Kratok is or does but I sure as hell know what the Nauceans or Torpals are about.

Well we all know the super and most of the major powers but how do you decide who is the lesser and minor? And is there a tangable way fo them to move up?

Stop sucking  ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:11:18 am
i vote we go back to perception! who's with me?

I'm with you. You cant quantify respect. The only reason I agree to the Necro being so powerful is because he had the guts to just jump into a forum where no-one knew him and start this whole war deal. I think a good test is: How many people can name your creature off the top of their head? How many people can tell you what it looks like and what its characteristics are? I dont know what a Kratok is or does but I sure as hell know what the Nauceans or Torpals are about.

Well we all know the super and most of the major powers but how do you decide who is the lesser and minor? And is there a tangable way fo them to move up?

Stop sucking  ;)

 Is it based on how many rp threads? nice descriptiosn and pictures in their creature threads or jsut the fact they are around? Or even all of those? Or is it based on what the majority thinks of them. For instance what if there is someone who has really great creature threads and alot but never gets noticed? Will they be a lower power based upon their inactivity in the role playing thread?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 02:12:00 am
Well we all know the super and most of the major powers but how do you decide who is the lesser and minor? And is there a tangable way fo them to move up?

what if every creature in debate just puts up a poll on their thread? something like:

do you think [creature] is :
~major power?
~minor power?
~obscure power?

and then they become whatever the people chose
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:13:49 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:14:01 am
Well we all know the super and most of the major powers but how do you decide who is the lesser and minor? And is there a tangable way fo them to move up?

what if every creature in debate just puts up a poll on their thread? something like:

do you think [creature] is :
~major power?
~minor power?
~obscure power?

and then they become whatever the people chose

I think thats a good idea. Do i (or the torpal or vis) really need to do that though?

Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

The problem in that is I can honestly say i don't read every single post in every creature thread and even less in the role playing ones. Its not becuase I don't like them, its jsut there are WAY too many. In the past i use to all the time, but as there have become more and more I have been choosier on whos i like to read and whos i jsut don't have time to read.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on July 10, 2006, 02:17:57 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

now there's a plan† :D

I think thats a good idea. Do i (or the torpal or vis) really need to do that though?

i think super powers and most major powers cen be agreed on without needing a vote
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 02:19:48 am
Omic should be Minor then.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:23:14 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

The problem in that is I can honestly say i don't read every single post in every creature thread and even less in the role playing ones. Its not becuase I don't like them, its jsut there are WAY too many. In the past i use to all the time, but as there have become more and more I have been choosier on whos i like to read and whos i jsut don't have time to read.

Thats what I'm saying though: those you like to read who you deem 'cool' can given higher status faster. Those who are boring will be forced to "spice it up."
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 02:24:10 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

Hmmm. We could write it into the fanfic. Something along the lines of:
In studying the precursor relics of this region of space, the ViS have unearthed a rather disturbing pattern. Great civilisations rise, reach a zenith, and then, without warning, collapse. It has been found there is a crucial precursor point, beyond which a civilisation is immediately susceptible to suffering a mysterious total downfall. In an attempt to stop the whole galaxy from once again reverting to barbarism and starting all over again the three civilisations nearest to the precursor point, the Nauceans, the Torpal and the ViS have joined together in a secret alliance, trancending all other alliances, to regulate power in the galaxy. Although no other races know of this these three are acting as invisible puppet masters, manipulating events so they remain the only three in danger, while they all feverishly work on a way to counteract the precursor problem. Dun, dun daaaah!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 02:25:50 am
Lol, that sounds cool!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:25:58 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

Hmmm. We could write it into the fanfic. Something along the lines of:
In studying the precursor relics of this region of space, the ViS have unearthed a rather disturbing pattern. Great civilisations rise, reach a zenith, and then, without warning, collapse. It has been found there is a crucial precursor point, beyond which a civilisation is immediately susceptible to suffering a mysterious total downfall. In an attempt to stop the whole galaxy from once again reverting to barbarism and starting all over again the three civilisations nearest to the precursor point, the Nauceans, the Torpal and the ViS have joined together in a secret alliance, trancending all other alliances, to regulate power in the galaxy. Although no other races know of this these three are acting as invisible puppet masters, manipulating events so they remain the only three in danger, while they all feverishly work on a way to counteract the precursor problem. Dun, dun daaaah!

The irony is, I'm not sure if that was a real statement or sarcasm... but either way its a brilliant idea!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:26:05 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

Hmmm. We could write it into the fanfic. Something along the lines of:
In studying the precursor relics of this region of space, the ViS have unearthed a rather disturbing pattern. Great civilisations rise, reach a zenith, and then, without warning, collapse. It has been found there is a crucial precursor point, beyond which a civilisation is immediately susceptible to suffering a mysterious total downfall. In an attempt to stop the whole galaxy from once again reverting to barbarism and starting all over again the three civilisations nearest to the precursor point, the Nauceans, the Torpal and the ViS have joined together in a secret alliance, trancending all other alliances, to regulate power in the galaxy. Although no other races know of this these three are acting as invisible puppet masters, manipulating events so they remain the only three in danger, while they all feverishly work on a way to counteract the precursor problem. Dun, dun daaaah!

Are you saying the super powers endorsing peoples threads are like monoliths?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 02:27:13 am
Living monoliths!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:28:43 am
Thats exactly what I was trying to say... in more words lol
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 02:31:19 am
I think this idea works best, I completely endorse all three creatures! [/sucking up for better stats for Omic]
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 02:33:24 am
I think this idea works best, I completely endorse all three creatures! [/sucking up for better stats for Omic]

Everyone sucks but me!! Er wait... this is not going well... :-\
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 10, 2006, 02:36:14 am
No matter where the Necromonicon are on the scale, they still get dashed, they go extinct.

All I can do now is hope my Tortullakeet and Gryfon get more attention, they're the ones who get to stick around, even though they aren't remotely as cool as the Necros *sigh*

Maybe... I'll keep one small band of Necromonicon on a deserted planet... ready to start up more chaos a long time from now ::)

Plus, expect to see Necro's invading your planet in Spore, im DEFINATELY making them once the game comes out :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 10, 2006, 02:36:59 am
Lol! Lets burn Hydro and the stake, and don't worry, i will take over the nauceans.... :D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 10, 2006, 03:20:00 am
Hydro, with all respect, you're an idiot. Quantifying this sort of thing is stupid, because the measuring system will always screw someone over. What about people whose threads aren't all that long but they have huge amounts of detail and backstory in other threads? We should keep it intuitive, a tacit agreement that certain races are powerful and certain races aren't.

I agree with Operaghost and Sam, we don't need to change anything.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 03:55:12 am
Maybe it should just rest on the opinions of the super powers, as it always has. When you three (Hydro, Krakow, Opera) say something is cool, people flock to it. Maybe you guys should have total control over who goes where, by voting on it for each sapient species, and as more people become super powers (very slowly), only the super powers get to vote.

Hmmm. We could write it into the fanfic. Something along the lines of:
In studying the precursor relics of this region of space, the ViS have unearthed a rather disturbing pattern. Great civilisations rise, reach a zenith, and then, without warning, collapse. It has been found there is a crucial precursor point, beyond which a civilisation is immediately susceptible to suffering a mysterious total downfall. In an attempt to stop the whole galaxy from once again reverting to barbarism and starting all over again the three civilisations nearest to the precursor point, the Nauceans, the Torpal and the ViS have joined together in a secret alliance, trancending all other alliances, to regulate power in the galaxy. Although no other races know of this these three are acting as invisible puppet masters, manipulating events so they remain the only three in danger, while they all feverishly work on a way to counteract the precursor problem. Dun, dun daaaah!

The irony is, I'm not sure if that was a real statement or sarcasm... but either way its a brilliant idea!
I was being semi serious. If people like it maybe we should go ahead with it. A few pictures of ViS, Torpals and Nauceans being mysterious and clandestine  ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 10, 2006, 08:52:08 am
I can already think of a way for a major plot to happen with this, I'll put my suggestion in if we actually do this.  ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 10, 2006, 09:16:00 am
Uh... but if it were to go ahead only the ViS, Torpals and Nauceans could be involved... on account of it being so secret.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 10, 2006, 09:40:51 am
I think the Forthi should at least be in the minor power section. they did start up the Delegation of Unifed Powers alliance, a new up and coming power...

I don't even know who you are, and I don't know anything about the DUP. Who's in it?
They are the unofficial "Noobs Alliance."...And "Auyuelcliad Wannnabes Alliance."
Naahhh...they're cool..


I remeber hearing that kind of thing about O.T.H.E.R. a while back....† †;)

As for the rant, I've seen a lot of those and this is the first time it has even been mentioned that it is against the rules.

People were saying the oldest alliance on the board doesn't compare to the others? Riiiiiigggghhhhhhtttt.....


Hydro, with all respect, you're an idiot. Quantifying this sort of thing is stupid, because the measuring system will always screw someone over. What about people whose threads aren't all that long but they have huge amounts of detail and backstory in other threads? We should keep it intuitive, a tacit agreement that certain races are powerful and certain races aren't.

I agree with Operaghost and Sam, we don't need to change anything.

EG, The Icthians.

Im totally against formal classification apart from the  stages of Superpower, major....

The scoring system is unnesscaily complicated.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 10, 2006, 10:21:02 am
It is too complicated, I agree. Also, large amounts of some threads are RP (like mine was in the beginning). And Hydro, I beg to differ, not every spam/off-topic post in your thread was Naucean related. I trust my intuition.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 10, 2006, 10:39:10 am
well when i looked over this thread I was suprised at how many posts it got ;D But i suck at math so i couldnt understand alot of it ???.  But anyway I do like the suggestion that we put a poll up and people vote on what kind of power you should be.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: werechicken on July 10, 2006, 11:24:51 am
well I'm a major power, so I'm happy
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 10, 2006, 11:41:21 am
well I'm a major power, so I'm happy
Same...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 10, 2006, 12:25:01 pm
im pretty satisfied being a minor power, Hell i started the Kangorians like 2 weeks ago i already climbed the ladder one rung, im happy with that ;D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 10, 2006, 12:41:53 pm
Where's thje official list, cause i don't know if i got changed from an obscure power or not...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 10, 2006, 03:41:26 pm
It is too complicated, I agree. Also, large amounts of some threads are RP (like mine was in the beginning). And Hydro, I beg to differ, not every spam/off-topic post in your thread was Naucean related. I trust my intuition.

Well who's fault its that? *chuckles* its not my fault people spam in my Naucean thread. I tell them to stop but they keep on doing it.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daan on July 10, 2006, 03:52:31 pm
Well, either way, that new system is too complex
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: tooma125 on July 14, 2006, 07:44:16 am
Two Things...

1. The Number system seems really wrong, in that you can't make a system of how "good" a creature is...

2. What category does the Gaming Steve forum as a whole think the Matarissans would fall under? I know they have not been in many RP's, but look through the thread...There are a lot of pictures, history, time & effort in those pages...What do you think?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 08:08:32 am
Sorry about this, I just don't want to make a useless thread but, you think that the RP's should have their own sub-forum? Like the spore creatures got theirs?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 14, 2006, 08:21:49 am
Sorry about this, I just don't want to make a useless thread but, you think that the RP's should have their own sub-forum? Like the spore creatures got theirs?
Yes. Everyone could just make an "Embassay thread" and it would stop CC form being full os RP's and similar- there are as many RP threads as there are creatures nowadays.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 14, 2006, 08:34:56 am
2. What category does the Gaming Steve forum as a whole think the Matarissans would fall under? I know they have not been in many RP's, but look through the thread...There are a lot of pictures, history, time & effort in those pages...What do you think?
Minor power
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on July 14, 2006, 09:56:51 am
I think some of us just aren't RP savvy enough to rise the ranks. Not to mention most of them are up to 10 pages by the time I even see them. I agree that that formula is really unfair. I have a whole lot of info in my first post, and just updated that. I have lots of pictures(Though not very good, I tried to get them atleast accurate), I elaborated on the Turnaq's culture, evolution, their whole SOLAR SYSTEM!  <rant> But I keep seeing all these things where, yes, they look original, but I can easily see someone just randomly putting on parts to a creature. "Um this is the Ilikortyhgpokian, it has a sonic hearing aid. I have iamge now so I'll elaborate more laters!". And then theres ones that are "WELL ITS CALLED PEEHSONOID AND IT USES ITS TOXIC WOOL TO FEND OFF PREADTORS." with a picture of a sheep holding a sword! </rant>
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: stuck on July 14, 2006, 10:05:56 am
How about this: The home thread of the creature gets changed to a poll listing the power heirarchy, and the place where the most votes are determines their place. Democracy FTW.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on July 14, 2006, 12:10:35 pm
I dunno where the Borark fall into the new system, but RP-wise they'd be either an obscure-power or a minor-power. I don't really see them as being a species who has the desire to have much power. They're quite happy in the own solar system. Although, individuals or small groups may be found working with or for other species.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 14, 2006, 12:12:00 pm
Bonemouse, I think your pictures would make sure that you're not an obcure power, at the very least you might be a minor. :)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on July 14, 2006, 02:45:08 pm
Thanks, but other then pictures, I haven't really fleshed out the Borark and their society all that much, unlike most creatures that have been created here.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 14, 2006, 02:46:58 pm
Yeah i think that is another factor, drawing quality. One that are drawn well tend to rise in popularity dispite not having much of a storu behind them. This shows you how much people put on eye candy. Also the very reason why i do almost all my posts with a description AND a picture.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 14, 2006, 02:47:53 pm
Yeah but the fleshed out ones usually dont have many pictures, which is bad. I think people respect pictures alot so if you did flesh them out a bit you'd defiently be a minor power. Maybe even major after some time. But what do i know †;D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 14, 2006, 02:59:23 pm
Good point. Another secret i do is i draw a picture first with a vague idea on how it should fit into the storyline. Then when i am posting i write a 1 to 3 paragraph description addding a little more to the history and describing the picture. In short i make it up right before i post each time of what the exact history is for it. It has worked out great. I think more people should do this rather than fleshing out a whole entire history and time line and then feeling overwhelmed with the amount of drawing they have to now make because they already described it.

I really think of my time line as a blurry picture. And each new picture i do adjusts that part into focus. As more parts i put in on the line the more i am guided and limited in what i can do. This is both a good and bad thing. On the one hand I am limited and cannot go too crazy in what happends or it will be inconstant to the future, on the other hand it starts to write itself. For instance i had been making a theme for what type of architecture the should be for the Nauceans and i choose spherical cause it looked cool. Because of this i wondered what a car would look like and i though it would probably be similar so i made a sphere car and all other vehicles have had some sort of spherical nature to them, from the tanks, planes, space station even the UFO is a sphere. In turn i had to eventually make a reason for this so after creating the Hydromancy religion of water i made up that everything is spherical because it is the divine shape of falling water and bubbles (because rain drops fall in a sphere shape not a "raindrop" shape).
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 14, 2006, 03:03:04 pm
Holy crap Hydro, the paragraphs man! The paragraphs!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on July 14, 2006, 03:24:34 pm
Good point. Another secret i do is i draw a picture first with a vague idea on how it should fit into the storyline. Then when i am posting i write a 1 to 3 paragraph description addding a little more to the history and describing the picture. In short i make it up right before i post each time of what the exact history is for it. It has worked out great. I think more people should do this rather than fleshing out a whole entire history and time line and then feeling overwhelmed with the amount of drawing they have to now make because they already described it.

I really think of my time line as a blurry picture. And each new picture i do adjusts that part into focus. As more parts i put in on the line the more i am guided and limited in what i can do. This is both a good and bad thing. On the one hand I am limited and cannot go too crazy in what happends or it will be inconstant to the future, on the other hand it starts to write itself. For instance i had been making a theme for what type of architecture the should be for the Nauceans and i choose spherical cause it looked cool. Because of this i wondered what a car would look like and i though it would probably be similar so i made a sphere car and all other vehicles have had some sort of spherical nature to them, from the tanks, planes, space station even the UFO is a sphere. In turn i had to eventually make a reason for this so after creating the Hydromancy religion of water i made up that everything is spherical because it is the divine shape of falling water and bubbles (because rain drops fall in a sphere shape not a "raindrop" shape).

I think that's a good way to work. I sorta did that when coming up with what the Borark looked like. I draw a monopod frog thing, then drew the creature it evolved from, then draw the creature it evolved to (the sapient form) with each drawing influecing the others.

My major issue is that the Borark are pain in the ass to draw. I think I'm going to come up with a new creature that I won't mind drawing more then a handful of times.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: emmet on July 14, 2006, 03:33:54 pm
Hydro reveals one of his secrets, all hail Hydro! Jk.

Oh, Bonemouse even though they are hard to draw they look amazing. Oh, and I figure the harder it is to draw the more accomplished you feel after. ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on July 14, 2006, 03:57:51 pm
Oh, I do. I'm proud of how the Borark turned out. I just don't particularily feel the need to put myself through the pain over and over again everytime I want to add something to their history.

I want some more practice with costume/tech design. And it'd be nice to work with species that is a bit more human looking (boring, I know ;).) I also want to draw sexy alien women, and I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell the Borark will ever be considered sexy. :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Hydromancerx on July 14, 2006, 04:13:45 pm
Hydro reveals one of his secrets, all hail Hydro! Jk.

Oh, Bonemouse even though they are hard to draw they look amazing. Oh, and I figure the harder it is to draw the more accomplished you feel after. ;)

Thats why the oral tentacles can hide pseudo mandibles in case i get lazy and do not want to draw them every time.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on July 14, 2006, 04:15:50 pm
See, you're smart. I should have figured out a way for the Borark's leg to hide inside it's body somehow. ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 14, 2006, 04:59:13 pm
I too was motivated by lazyness.... well that and a knowledge of my own poor artistic skills. I mean, anyone could draw a passable (or at least recognisable) ViS.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: aname on July 14, 2006, 06:00:03 pm
i would say tyronians would be very low on the power list. they are suppliers, they help build power rather than take it for themselves.

(but they are not selfless. they only want money :P)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Aegis on July 14, 2006, 07:10:45 pm
I really don't think you can put this kind of thing into a numbered system; the tacit agreement works way better.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 08:06:48 pm
True, and as for the Ryndalians, since they can change their shape, color, and just about any other feature about them at will it makes them easy to draw, since I can draw anything and pass it off. So yeah, (Though nobody cares because I don't have 50+ pics.).
My idea was so much diffrent when I made it up, I had to wait like 12-36 hours to post it and over that time it must have changed over 20 times.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: King-Dumb on July 15, 2006, 03:31:25 am
Like it's commonly said, dedication/originality/amount of info/pictures/longevity = respect and critique from other readers = race power. This keeps things at a healthy level of competition I would say, so rather than ten zillion poorly-defined bit races running around, you get a quality over quantity effect whereby the more effort and dedication you pour into your creation, the more powerful they become in RP as a result. Longevity also helps (just look at Hydromancer), but I would say effort comes first, and that if you put in the effort, you get respect, which will allow you to do more things, which will result in your creature staying around longer. Here's my interpretation of the powers:

Super Powers
IRL, you would analogue these to large, powerful and resourceful countries like America or China. Everyone knows of them and knows their power. They might not neccecarily respect or like them, but the fact remains that they are by far a major player in intergalactic affairs. These are creatures which have a vast wealth of info, are well-known on the RP to a sort of iconic extent, or have been around a looooong time.


I have to say that what goes up must go down, because one day the super powers of today will not be the superpowers of tomorrow eg. USA, The Roman empire. So there must be a way to rise and fall in power other wise the ones in super power position will always be a super power.

Also it must not be based on time as their are countries which have been around for along time on earth but never come a super power.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 15, 2006, 04:15:02 am
I have to say that what goes up must go down, because one day the super powers of today will not be the superpowers of tomorrow eg. USA, The Roman empire. So there must be a way to rise and fall in power other wise the ones in super power position will always be a super power.

Also it must not be based on time as their are countries which have been around for along time on earth but never come a super power.

That's where the analogy to Earth breaks down. It is based on time like it or not, and there's no reason for a power to fall unless their creator wants them to do so.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on July 15, 2006, 05:31:57 am
I have to say that what goes up must go down, because one day the super powers of today will not be the superpowers of tomorrow eg. USA, The Roman empire. So there must be a way to rise and fall in power other wise the ones in super power position will always be a super power.

Also it must not be based on time as their are countries which have been around for along time on earth but never come a super power.

That's where the analogy to Earth breaks down. It is based on time like it or not, and there's no reason for a power to fall unless their creator wants them to do so.

Galatic Empires would probably last alot longer than planet-based ones. There is also the advantage of more or less infinite resources in the universe. I agree that the creator should decide if and when thier empire falls. You think no alien empires will? The Caanth, The Kawenu and The Wexxians* did.

*Or will. Or whatever.




Another thing, how many are there of each race? The ViS are the most numerous, and i have Auyuelcliads pegged at about 275 billion.

There are about 25 all-Auyuelcliad planets in The Auyuelcliad Empire, and about 5 Multi-racial. the Multi-racialm planets are still mostly Auyuelcliadic (about half population). So if each planet has an average 10 bil pop/n,† 25x 10 bil= 250 billion, with the multi racial planets: 5 x 5bil= 25 billion.

275 billion. Wow.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 15, 2006, 06:55:19 am
I cant be arsed to calculate but I'd say that ViS in the galaxy number in the trillions, the Administration controlling millions of planets (not all inhabited) with large numbers of ViS in stasis on board ships and space stations and so forth.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 15, 2006, 07:11:53 am
Oh dear. I forsee this going down the e-penis route we took with the starship sizes. Everyone is going to post slightly bigger and bigger populations in an attempt to artificially inflate their power.

Please let's not do this.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on July 15, 2006, 07:39:40 am
Im thinking my guys are at about 19 billion. Thats why they use drones for most tasks. :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 15, 2006, 07:54:01 am
Ryndalian Population is not that high, partially because they kill each other all the time. In the council there are probablly 45-70 Million. This is the largest Ryndalian group mind you, but since there are 80+ of them and another few forming as I type this, I can't judge them because they vary from 12 to 300,000 to 6 million, you get the point. Though I don't think the total Ryndalian population exceeds 10 billion and wont for a while longer.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on July 15, 2006, 08:51:59 am
The Forthi inhabit about 5 planets fully, but have discovered many other with their exploration group. The other worlds they control are used for industrial purposes or military outposts with only one major city. They probably have about 75 billion (they live to about 60 years, reproduce in large litters and take up little space with their engineering feats. Their population has been booming since the discovery of other planets/races).
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on July 15, 2006, 09:40:09 am
Considering the Vladtokju just killed off most of the Turnaqs, I'd say there's only about 100,000 left. Poor wittle guys.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 15, 2006, 10:37:53 am
The Necromonicon were at 10 billion at their highest point, 9.2 billion mid-way through the ND. But while thats no 275 billion Auyucliads, every Necromonicon could probably slaughter a couple hundred or even thousand before being killed, especially since the Auyu aren't as techno'd up as the ViS or Naucean, and if they attacked a Auyu planet with a lot of civilians.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on July 16, 2006, 08:39:41 am
so im obscure? i thought i made the Peskitoriantais to stand out, at least for the week they were, along with Burinees  ;D


sorry i was gone cause i was moving. Ill try and get more info and stuff and post more again.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 16, 2006, 01:47:31 pm
so im obscure? i thought i made the Peskitoriantais to stand out, at least for the week they were, along with Burinees† ;D


sorry i was gone cause i was moving. Ill try and get more info and stuff and post more again.

By obscure we mean weak technologically or not-all-that-important in RP. It doesn't mean unknown. Everyone knows the Peskit cause they are annoying (no offence) but they're not that advanced, thus they are placed as obscure.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on July 16, 2006, 03:29:49 pm
so im obscure? i thought i made the Peskitoriantais to stand out, at least for the week they were, along with Burinees† ;D


sorry i was gone cause i was moving. Ill try and get more info and stuff and post more again.

By obscure we mean weak technologically or not-all-that-important in RP. It doesn't mean unknown. Everyone knows the Peskit cause they are annoying (no offence) but they're not that advanced, thus they are placed as obscure.

well the Burinee are pretty advanced, more then the Peski's and they are under obscure

and with that big math problem, can someone do that for me  ;D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on July 16, 2006, 03:49:23 pm
I don't think people are using any of those anymore, if otherwise please tell me.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on July 17, 2006, 01:28:13 am
I don't think people are using any of those anymore, if otherwise please tell me.

No, don't worry, we're not using the maths.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 15, 2006, 09:49:48 pm
This is just a thought of mine but I think that of someone could give a list of the Civilizations of the forum and like give them a number from 1 to 10 depending on powerful they are. I think it give newbies(including me) a sense of how powerful the different Races are and the standing in the Universe. Although its probably a really stupid idea but whatever I thought it could be interesting. :P

Sorry for the bumpage but how could this have worked? Everybody says that their creatures are the strongest unless we use some sort of system...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on August 16, 2006, 01:15:58 am
This is just a thought of mine but I think that of someone could give a list of the Civilizations of the forum and like give them a number from 1 to 10 depending on powerful they are. I think it give newbies(including me) a sense of how powerful the different Races are and the standing in the Universe. Although its probably a really stupid idea but whatever I thought it could be interesting. :P

Sorry for the bumpage but how could this have worked? Everybody says that their creatures are the strongest unless we use some sort of system...
Basically:
Effort + Originality + Parcipitation + Respect = Power.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Axelgear on August 16, 2006, 07:22:31 am
I don't quite agree on that. As much as I know this won't work, I think we should just say that it's logical here. More people probably know and respect Omics than they do Loricatii, but a Loricatus could turn one into fig paste with a motion of its hand and a few figs. Just look at it logically. A Torpal is much more beloved than a Giganommoth, but a Torpal won't win that Arm Wrestling Contest. In combat though, I do agree that your system works a bit better as more people will side with who they think is cooler.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on August 16, 2006, 09:17:37 am
I don't quite agree on that. As much as I know this won't work, I think we should just say that it's logical here. More people probably know and respect Omics than they do Loricatii, but a Loricatus could turn one into fig paste with a motion of its hand and a few figs. Just look at it logically. A Torpal is much more beloved than a Giganommoth, but a Torpal won't win that Arm Wrestling Contest. In combat though, I do agree that your system works a bit better as more people will side with who they think is cooler.

Whilst it's obvious that a Torpal could step on an Omic, the "power" thing is about empire power not individual creature power. So hypothetically speaking Omics, whilst much smaller than say a Giganommoth, their empire is nevertheless potentially more powerful.

Now I should probably note that a person would be allowed to limit the power of their own empire, should they feel the need. But I can't think of anyone who has done that so far.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Genesis on August 16, 2006, 09:20:13 am
Omics, Wexxicans, to name two.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on August 16, 2006, 12:48:56 pm
I don't quite agree on that. As much as I know this won't work, I think we should just say that it's logical here. More people probably know and respect Omics than they do Loricatii, but a Loricatus could turn one into fig paste with a motion of its hand and a few figs. Just look at it logically. A Torpal is much more beloved than a Giganommoth, but a Torpal won't win that Arm Wrestling Contest. In combat though, I do agree that your system works a bit better as more people will side with who they think is cooler.

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Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Axelgear on August 16, 2006, 12:52:35 pm
Y'see Balth, there's something called ignoring idiots. The recent Holy Emperor thing is a good example of such.

And limiting their empire how? I've been specific about the Loricatii. Three star systems including their home system, they stay out of Galactic Events, etc. I stayed out of the whole galactic politics thing.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 16, 2006, 12:55:46 pm
How could you rate such a thing even when te game comes out well unless you use the card rating thing.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Josasa on August 16, 2006, 12:56:23 pm
Y'see Balth, there's something called ignoring idiots. The recent Holy Emperor thing is a good example of such...

Ouch..
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on August 16, 2006, 01:16:17 pm
Y'see Balth, there's something called ignoring idiots. The recent Holy Emperor thing is a good example of such...

Ouch..
Notice alot of people (including my eminent self) have ceased posting there?

But at least Daan has a developed creature, and therefore a right to some power.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 16, 2006, 04:04:09 pm
In Reply To # 197 To #205

See what I meant? :P I also forgot to mention that know one can agree on the kind of system that we would use....


Quote
Basically:
Effort + Originality + Parcipitation + Respect = Power.
I put alot of effort in my creatures (Took me hours to do the first image), I think that I was very original, I participate in the DUP and the Pseudo Sequence threads, I never disrespected someone's creature............and yet the Giganommoths are still minor powers. How do you explain that? :-X
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 17, 2006, 12:16:10 am
Hey, popularity is a fickle thing. Youre starting to sound like an unnatractive guy trying to explain all his percieved good points to a totally uninterested girl.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: operaghost21 on August 17, 2006, 12:57:58 am
Hey, popularity is a fickle thing. Youre starting to sound like an unnatractive guys trying to explain all his percieved good points to a totally uninterested girl.

nice :D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 17, 2006, 08:29:30 am
Krakow, we've all drooled over the ViS already. You win teh internetz. What do you want now?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Axelgear on August 17, 2006, 08:51:50 am
Krakow, we've all drooled over the ViS already. You win teh internetz. What do you want now?

I haven't... The ViS, to me, are rather dull... I suppose that's intended but...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on August 17, 2006, 09:02:14 am
Popularity shouldint mean anything at all, and Terminator, maybe you should do more then just drawing your creature?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 17, 2006, 10:30:18 am
Popularity shouldint mean anything at all, and Terminator, maybe you should do more then just drawing your creature?
How so? If you mean drawing other stuff like weapons, tools, etc. I'm getting there.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Axelgear on August 17, 2006, 10:37:02 am
He means add history about them, culture, etc. Where do they come from? What do they believe in? Why do they believe in it? And so on.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 17, 2006, 10:39:13 am
Hey, popularity is a fickle thing. Youre starting to sound like an unnatractive guy trying to explain all his percieved good points to a totally uninterested girl.
Maybe I am, but I don't really think that popularity should matter for people's creatures..........

He means add history about them, culture, etc. Where do they come from? What do they believe in? Why do they believe in it? And so on.
Like I said, I'm getting there............I'm just giving images about they looks first (Male front, back, side and re-do the female)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 17, 2006, 12:46:06 pm
I never wanted anything... i was just doing it for fun  8)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Xarionis on August 17, 2006, 12:51:13 pm
I bet a good way to get your creature to be a superpower would to make a race of naughty amazonian space vixens.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on August 17, 2006, 10:01:56 pm
I actually made a joke about that once with my Hydrians =P (Old dead thread, use the search engine!)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Bonemouse on August 18, 2006, 12:30:59 am
Another way to make your race a superpower is to start a whole new galaxy. ;) Seriously though, it's not a competition. This should be fun.

As a defense to the current so called superpowers, they're popular for a reason. And that's not only because they have more drawings/better drawings, more detailed information, or been around longer (although that all helps). It's because they strike a chord with people. This may be by chance or it may be the result of an iterative process. So either be happy with your races position in this fanfic universe or take what you've learned and try again.

One more thought. In most media flaws make a character more interesting. Keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Axelgear on August 18, 2006, 12:34:42 am
I think the age has a BIG factor in how popular something is. The earlier someone joins, the more likely someone is to know it if they're involved.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 18, 2006, 02:58:48 am
No, Bonemouse is absolutely right. The Nauceans were stupid-popular almost as soon as they were made and posted. The Torpal took a little while to get going, but time really isnt an issue.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on August 18, 2006, 06:11:52 am
It's also important to note that before these creatures were posted there were a lot of run-of-the-mill creatures. To give a good analogy, it's like these superpowers are the printing press. Sure, there were a lot of inventions before and after that, but the printing press stands out because it is important, not because it is old.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on August 20, 2006, 01:26:41 pm
are the Peskitoriantais really obscure? i would think they would be at least Minor for what the classifications would be. I dont know how many flames they started, so i thought you guys "knew" them.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 20, 2006, 01:31:17 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!

Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: dutch on August 20, 2006, 01:49:23 pm
i hope my creature will become a super power in your eyes , becuz i think they own all (exept torpals and nauceans)

so visit my thread ,!!!!!@!@!

history is added,
daily posting of new pictures
a new world power is rising
and the culture is flowing

† † † † † † http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=6385.0


† † † † †
† † † †
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 20, 2006, 04:46:56 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.

i hope my creature will become a super power in your eyes , becuz i think they own all (exept torpals and nauceans)

so visit my thread ,!!!!!@!@!

history is added,
daily posting of new pictures
a new world power is rising
and the culture is flowing

            http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=6385.0


         
       
What about the ViS? ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 20, 2006, 05:19:35 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Lualmoba on August 20, 2006, 05:55:34 pm
Yes. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.

I'm sorry, but I have to agree with this. Most people will only pay attention to a creature if there are really good pictures or if they are friends with the creator. So, people who have been here for a long time are best known and because of that, they are most likely to get good feedback, the same way as people who make great drawings.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 20, 2006, 06:36:11 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. #1. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. #2. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
#1. I like him. :(
#2. Mine don't look that bad do they?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 20, 2006, 06:37:45 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. #1. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. #2. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
#1. I like him. :(
#2. Mine don't look too bad do they?

#1. Generally, people regard him as a spammer.
#2. Lol. You are an artist, but you don't RP and therefore are a little low on the "teh omg" scale. I envy your 10 pages, though :(
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 20, 2006, 06:45:31 pm
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. #1. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. #2. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
#1. I like him. :(
#2. Mine don't look too bad do they?

#1. Generally, people regard him as a spammer.
#2. Lol. You are an artist, but you don't RP and therefore are a little low on the "teh omg" scale. I envy your 10 pages, though :(

#1. So?
#2. I RP a bit (No where near as much as alwayswatching, Operahghost, Necro, Genesis, Josasa etc. :-\) I already sort of understood why mine aren't superpowers or major powers though ;)
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: dutch on August 21, 2006, 10:18:26 am
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. #1. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. #2. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
#1. I like him. :(
#2. Mine don't look too bad do they?

#1. Generally, people regard him as a spammer.
#2. Lol. You are an artist, but you don't RP and therefore are a little low on the "teh omg" scale. I envy your 10 pages, though :(

#1. So?
#2. I RP a bit (No where near as much as alwayswatching, Operahghost, Necro, Genesis, Josasa etc. :-\) I already sort of understood why mine aren't superpowers or major powers though ;)

1#   i dont kno the guy since i am only 2.5 days on this forum
2#  who decides who is a superpower or not , the amount of postings doesnt tell who is or not becuz u can only find it out when u play the REAL game spore on the PC or xbox if its a super power or not
3#  i also envy the terminators 10 pages ,i got nice pics , added history , culture and more pictures will flow in my topic ,
      but still i got 3 lame pages while i posted my creature 2.5 days ago
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 21, 2006, 10:23:57 am
Here's the real formula:
quality of pictures*number of posts their creator has+supposed originality that actually isn't orignal at all
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Actual Info that doesn't pertain to an upcoming war

*RP+number of limbs= POWER!


So your saying that if a Spammer like Damned Zombie (No offense Emperor Eom3r) could get some good quality original images, he would be a Superpower? I think there's more to that.


Yes. #1. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. #2. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.
#1. I like him. :(
#2. Mine don't look too bad do they?

#1. Generally, people regard him as a spammer.
#2. Lol. You are an artist, but you don't RP and therefore are a little low on the "teh omg" scale. I envy your 10 pages, though :(

#1. So?
#2. I RP a bit (No where near as much as alwayswatching, Operahghost, Necro, Genesis, Josasa etc. :-\) I already sort of understood why mine aren't superpowers or major powers though ;)

1#   i dont kno the guy since i am only 2.5 days on this forum
2#  who decides who is a superpower or not , the amount of postings doesnt tell who is or not becuz u can only find it out when u play the REAL game spore on the PC or xbox if its a super power or not
3#  i also envy the terminators 10 pages ,i got nice pics , added history , culture and more pictures will flow in my topic ,
      but still i got 3 lame pages while i posted my creature 2.5 days ago

#2. Superpowers have been here a long time, and in the fanfic universe they are very powerful. This has nothing to do really with the game.
#3. 3 pages!? Wow 0_o. Oh, I see. It's because you have good pictures :(.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: dutch on August 21, 2006, 10:28:27 am
3 pages aint much , even the gigamanomoth has 10 pages ,
gonne use a new tactic,gonne post everywhere and advertise for my creature ;D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 21, 2006, 10:29:41 am
3 pages aint much , even the gigamanomoth has 10 pages ,
gonne use a new tactic,gonne post everywhere and advertise for my creature ;D
3 pages is a lot in my eyes, it took me atleast a week of constant updating to get to 3 pages on my old creatures.

Dude, don't spam, that's bad.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: dutch on August 21, 2006, 10:34:26 am
me? spamming? how did you got that rediculous idea  :-\

i gonne RP ;D
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 21, 2006, 10:53:10 am
Yes. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.

Thats not true at all. Maybe its just that all the races drawn in paint so far have been somewhat uninteresting.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 21, 2006, 10:55:51 am
Yes. Except nobody likes DZ and it would fail because of that. But this formula is true, and everybody either knows it or is too stuck up to admit it. This is why interesting, well thought out races drawn in paint will fail.

Thats not true at all. Maybe its just that all the races drawn in paint so far have been somewhat uninteresting.

Maybe they are. And maybe that 90th generic dragon thing is totally original and deserves pages and pages of praise.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Mr. Consideration on August 21, 2006, 11:12:57 am
3 pages aint much , even the gigamanomoth has 10 pages ,
gonne use a new tactic,gonne post everywhere and advertise for my creature ;D
3 pages is a lot in my eyes, it took me atleast a week of constant updating to get to 3 pages on my old creatures.

Dude, don't spam, that's bad.
Alot of Major Powers have less pages than Minor or Lesser Powers. I generally have updates spliced into one post for ease.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: p-luke on August 21, 2006, 06:05:39 pm
Yes, I tend to loose interest in a lot of species, simply because I have to dig through 30 pages in order to find the stuff I deem interesting. That's why I make all my updates in the first post, and just make a small post stating that I updated the first post.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: HanianKnight on August 21, 2006, 06:08:40 pm
i've been doing around 2 updates a day, with around 1 response for 2 updates. I just felt like mentioning that
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Malt on August 21, 2006, 06:10:27 pm
i've been doing around 2 updates a day, with around 1 response for 2 updates. I just felt like mentioning that

Welcome to Paint World. I'm your tour guide and president, Malt. Over there is ignore central, and to your left you'll see the monuments of the Vis, Naucean, and Torpal to which you'll NEVER LIVE UP TO!
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: p-luke on August 21, 2006, 06:14:41 pm
Well im doing it in flash, and comments are kinda rare for me too, although its true that I havent been doing much history lately.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on August 21, 2006, 06:18:58 pm
i like you flash though!  ;D

so how do i solve the formula to see my creatures "true" classification?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on August 21, 2006, 06:20:31 pm
so how do i solve the formula to see my creatures "true" classification?

Honestly, Netherflare, I haven't seen you around here too much. I wouldn't know. Maybe that's why you're currently rated "obscure".

EDIT:
Having said that, I just went over your latest stuff. It's quite good. Realistically, I don't think the classification system was a very good idea anyway.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on August 21, 2006, 06:25:03 pm
i havent been here for the last 2 months, but when i did sign up and stuff, i certainly got a name for myself when i was flamed and critizized that would last to the end of never.

But i understand if ppl forget about them, just like Hollywood, if you dont do something for awhile, ppl will lose interest and move on
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 21, 2006, 06:38:46 pm
My race is a superpower because I wont let any other superpower survive in my universe. It's really that easy for your race to be a superpower because other players dont have any control on your own universe. You can decide to not let any torpals in your game which once the game comes out who knows what will be more powerful than the other.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 21, 2006, 06:57:26 pm
#1.My race is a superpower because I wont let any other superpower survive in my universe. It's really that easy for your race to be a superpower because other players dont have any control on your own universe. You can decide to not let any torpals in your game which #2once the game comes out who knows what will be more powerful than the other.
#1 So what do you do in your own galaxy? Are their other role players in your galaxy? Are you starting to feel a little isolated?
#2 I will :P
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 21, 2006, 07:04:09 pm
Actualy im very anti social so isolation is a good thing and well theres no multiplayer in this game so your going to be isolated no matter what.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 21, 2006, 07:07:30 pm
Actualy im very anti social so isolation is a good thing and well theres no multiplayer in this game so your going to be isolated no matter what.
Where'd you get that info from? ??? If anything, SPore would not have a singleplayer mode.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 21, 2006, 07:11:47 pm
Well it is single player you cant directly affect other players. They just might see your race on a random planet but if they destroy that planet a planet on your solar system wont die because of it.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 21, 2006, 07:14:57 pm
Well it is single player you cant directly affect other players. They just might see your race on a random planet but if they destroy that planet a planet on your solar system wont die because of it.
Are you so sure about that? Tell me, where did you read that? Give me the link. We don't know yet if their is a game over or not....
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 21, 2006, 07:18:27 pm
I'm very sure Ive watched the e3 videos and Will wright has outright said that there is no simultaneous multiplayer. Think of it like a sand box only you are in in no other people to knock your castle down or cats to poop in. I think that describes Will's feellings cowards direct multiplayer.

Also I think the 1up video has will wright talking about why it is a massivly single player game.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 21, 2006, 07:22:39 pm
I'm very sure Ive watched the e3 videos and Will wright has outright said that there is no simultaneous multiplayer. Think of it like a sand box only you are in in no other people to knock your castle down or cats to poop in. I think that describes Will's feellings cowards direct multiplayer.

Also I think the 1up video has will wright talking about why it is a massivly single player game.
I knew EA would screw up somewheres
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Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Nazzul on August 21, 2006, 07:23:41 pm
It would be nice to see some more multiplayer aspects put in maybe a new universe with direct multiplayer it would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Kratok on August 21, 2006, 08:27:41 pm
Nazzul, get out of this part of this website, please, this is about our own fanfic/spore universe, with some Spore Games, not a list of our alrady created spore creatures.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Daxx on August 22, 2006, 04:12:39 am
Nazzul, get out of this part of this website, please, this is about our own fanfic/spore universe, with some Spore Games, not a list of our alrady created spore creatures.

This is true. Nazzul, you seem to have missed the point of the creation corner.
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 22, 2006, 10:33:47 am
Well this thread is now pretty useless since people are going to start their new galaxies/universes and be the superpowers over there...
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: dutch on August 22, 2006, 11:05:44 am
Well this thread is now pretty useless since people are going to start their new galaxies/universes and be the superpowers over there...
thats not completely true

ps: ur name is terminator and u take a picture of the hulk?!?† ;)
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Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: The Terminator on August 22, 2006, 12:15:14 pm
Well this thread is now pretty useless since people are going to start their new galaxies/universes and be the superpowers over there...
#1thats not completely true

#2ps: ur name is terminator and u take a picture of the hulk?!?† ;)
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#1 I believe that it is. If the VIS, Torpal & Nauceans are the most popular that means that they'll be more likely to receive visitors from another universe/planet rather then them visiting another. The players race is the greatest if they stay in their galaxie. I'm sure that if I visited the Torpal and declared war on them, I'd get owned. But if they decided to come to my universe and declare war on me, they'd get pwned. Same would go for lets say the Nauceans and the Athosians or the ViS and the Omic etc.
And colliding galaxies/universes would not be a very good idea and might end up in a flaming RP :P

It might sound corny but...

#2 So?
Title: Re: Race Classification
Post by: Netherflare on September 23, 2006, 02:25:19 pm
i prefer just 1 big galaxy and since there is so many stars and solar systems in 1 galaxy, it should be fine if we all stayed in it!