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Title: A Comprehensive Pokémon Thread
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 16, 2006, 06:29:01 am
I thought we needed a new topic about the recently announced Pokemon games.  While they don't seem to be much of an improvement over the previous games, they do have some pretty cool new features.  I wouldn't go as far to say that they "breathe new life into the series", but the games definatly look like they'll be great for fans of the series.  For people who don't know, Pokemon is an RPG series - on the DS this time round that revolves around capturing monsters and battling with them to level them up.  I know many people will still think of this as a kids game, but it's a pretty deep RPG, at least battle wise.  It involves a lot of training and strategy and is one of the most balanced RPG's I've ever played.  For people who love collecting, or power leveling hundreds of little critters, you should definatly give it a try.

Firstly, the day and night cycle make a return, after being mysteriously absent from the previous few games.  This means, if you play the game at night, it will be night in the game, allowing you to capture some of the more nocturnal Pokemon.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Tashums/dp05_image01.jpg)

There also appears to be different variations for the male and female Pokemon.  While this isn't a huge difference, it is pretty cool to not have every single Pokemon you come across look identical.  In the picture below, the male Wooper has longer antena than the female.
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/Tashums/dp05_image03.jpg)

It also has numerous other smaller updates, such as being able to monitor the Pokemon in the day care centre, so if you're Pokemon happen to produce an Egg, you'll know about it, instead of having to constantly back track to the Day care, only to find you still don't have an egg.

It's also going to be the first DS game to link up to the Wii, to another Pokemon game, known as Battle Revolution, which is looking similiar to the Stadium type games released on the N64, but with a massive graphical over haul.  Bits of the arena fly apart during one of the Pokemons attacks. It also features some kind of RPG mode. The game does look really impressive and for once the Pokemon actually physically hit each other.  Both games feature Wi-fi for battling and trading with others online and are due out in Japan later this year.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2Jqz-rxk8&search=Battle%20Revolution
A video of Battle Revolution in action.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on June 16, 2006, 06:46:26 am
Looks good, I think I may just decide to get back into it. I haven't played Pokémon since I got all 151 on the original Blue version, only to have someone start a new game and erase all my progress.  :-\

The game does look really impressive and for once the Pokemon actually physically hit each other.
Hah. ;D
That was one of things I found really amusing about the original Stadium. Even body slams and tackles showed the attacking Pokémon run forward, stop abruptly and then a second later, the defending Pokémon bowled over as if by an invisible force.

Good times!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lj2Jqz-rxk8&search=Battle%20Revolution
A video of Battle Revolution in action.
Impressive!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on June 16, 2006, 06:50:58 am
Heh, having played Pokémon games since getting the old Blue Version the night of the game's release, I'm still amazed how excited I get for these games.  Diamond and Pearl especially as this brings back one of my favorite features from Gold/Silver/Crystal: Day and Night.  Only it's greatly expanded!  It's like R/S/E had babies with G/S/C, and produced Diamond and Pearl.  I don't think I could ever tire of these games. <3  And the "Pokémon Battle Revolution" thing looks just plain great.  I loved the Stadium games, myself.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2006, 06:58:00 am
I hope diamond and pearl has better battle animations too. Actually animating the pokes would be nice... as if they could be arsed.

But judging by the identical expressions and positions of the tadpole-like freaks I'm thinking no  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on June 16, 2006, 07:18:38 am
Well, jeez, animating THAT many sprites would be a hell of a lot of work, thought it would be nice. What number are they up to now, anyway?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 16, 2006, 07:36:50 am
Well, the key here is they dont neccessarily have to be sprites. The DS can handle 3D. Look at metroid prime: hunters. Just make it cell-shadey so its in keeping with the art style of the handhelds and youre set. (I notice that the 'overworld' is done that way)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on June 16, 2006, 07:40:33 am
Good point, actually.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 16, 2006, 07:53:27 am
It does appear the have animated intro's like they did in Crystal and Emerald, though it's not confirmed.

And I have to agree with the 3D thing.  At the very least they could have made the battles 3D, they really need to make the battles more interesting.  Battle Revolution manages to make the battles look really exciting even though they work exactly the same way, after seeing that it's just disapointing to look at the DS games and see the battle are just static sprites.  Still, it's the gameplay that's important.

And there's currently 386 Pokemon, not counting any of the new ones for this game.  With Diamond and Pearl, I'm guessing they'll be around 500.  Some people might say that's too much, but hey, that's quite a selection for a team of six.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on June 16, 2006, 07:59:21 am
And there's currently 386 Pokemon, not counting any of the new ones for this game.  With Diamond and Pearl, I'm guessing they'll be around 500.  Some people might say that's too much, but hey, that's quite a selection for a team of six.

 :o That is a LOT of Pokemon. I've been getting interested in trying Pokemon games again, but I'm so far behind. Haven't played since Yellow, unless you count the Pokemon Trading Card Game for the GBA -- which I still think was my favorite even though I ordinarily detest card games.

Just seems like it'd be hard to crack back into the series at this point.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Celdur on June 16, 2006, 08:27:07 am
im starting to hate those games....i used to like them but now i got enuf of m and lot o my friends stil playing talking about how good their pokemon are  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 16, 2006, 09:14:40 am
I used to like poke'mon, but it got hard to follow after they added a bunch of new creators (Plus I was in 6th grade)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 16, 2006, 11:42:21 pm
I will always say Pokemon games aren't just for kids I have suck countless hours in to Poke Blue and Poke Ruby. I'm now 23 the TV series yes stay away from that it's terrible but they make solid games that can be played through many times.

Having said that I don't know why you can say its a balanced game some pokemon are so incredibly over powered even still Psycic pokemon are a little over powered its been reigned in a bit with the inclusion of Dark pokemon but until a really really good Dark pokemon is made Psycic will rule.

Also Bug pokemon are under powered most bug are seen in the 1st area evolve into a butterfly like creature and are useless after level 20. Theres needs to be some killer bugs that are on par strength wise with the starting poke you get. Also that should help even out Psycic pokemon.

Lets not get started on how crap Poison ones are.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on June 16, 2006, 11:50:41 pm
Yes I remeber my old stradegem, and it stands for every one I play. Get at least one or two Psychic's on your team.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 16, 2006, 11:56:15 pm
If you don't have a Psyscic you're screwed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 17, 2006, 12:15:41 am
I will always say Pokemon games aren't just for kids I have suck countless hours in to Poke Blue and Poke Ruby. I'm now 23 the TV series yes stay away from that it's terrible but they make solid games that can be played through many times.

Having said that I don't know why you can say its a balanced game some pokemon are so incredibly over powered even still Psycic pokemon are a little over powered its been reigned in a bit with the inclusion of Dark pokemon but until a really really good Dark pokemon is made Psycic will rule.

Also Bug pokemon are under powered most bug are seen in the 1st area evolve into a butterfly like creature and are useless after level 20. Theres needs to be some killer bugs that are on par strength wise with the starting poke you get. Also that should help even out Psycic pokemon.

Lets not get started on how crap Poison ones are.

Any Dark or Ghost Pokemon will rape a Pshycic type.  It's more than easy enough to make a team of Pokemon that doesn't include a single Psychic.  In the original Red/blue, yeah, Psychics were horribly overpowered, but that's why there's a dark type now.  Even a simple Arcanine with Crunch can anhilate a Mewtwo.  There are a few "uber" Pokemon that are just insanely overpowered, but these are generally considered bad practice, most people won't use them on their team, let alone battle against them.  And yeah, there are still some weaklings, but there has to be some kind of variation.

And there are plenty of really good bug Pokemon.  Heracross, Scizor, Armaldo and Shedinja are up there with the best of them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 17, 2006, 12:21:14 am
I need a guide to all the new stuff. I think I left when the TV show got rid of Brock and misty (like I said, I was in 6th grade)

I didn't say the game was for kids though. It's a very good RPG, and I might rent the new poke'mon game for old time sake
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 01:16:53 am
I still say Psycic's are over powered Ghosts aren't that great although I'll admit some of them from the new ghosts are better still they lack some good moves and crunch is the only decent dark attack and even then there aren't really any really good Dark pokemon Umbrion isn't too bad other than that not many good choices.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 17, 2006, 01:20:15 am
I never used Psychics. I didn't use any strategy, I just ran in there with brute strength sacrifice poke'mon until I won.... well it worked did it  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 02:53:17 am
I will always say Pokemon games aren't just for kids I have suck countless hours in to Poke Blue and Poke Ruby. I'm now 23 the TV series yes stay away from that it's terrible but they make solid games that can be played through many times.

Having said that I don't know why you can say its a balanced game some pokemon are so incredibly over powered even still Psycic pokemon are a little over powered its been reigned in a bit with the inclusion of Dark pokemon but until a really really good Dark pokemon is made Psycic will rule.

Also Bug pokemon are under powered most bug are seen in the 1st area evolve into a butterfly like creature and are useless after level 20. Theres needs to be some killer bugs that are on par strength wise with the starting poke you get. Also that should help even out Psycic pokemon.

Lets not get started on how crap Poison ones are.

Any Dark or Ghost Pokemon will rape a Pshycic type.  It's more than easy enough to make a team of Pokemon that doesn't include a single Psychic.  In the original Red/blue, yeah, Psychics were horribly overpowered, but that's why there's a dark type now.  Even a simple Arcanine with Crunch can anhilate a Mewtwo.  There are a few "uber" Pokemon that are just insanely overpowered, but these are generally considered bad practice, most people won't use them on their team, let alone battle against them.  And yeah, there are still some weaklings, but there has to be some kind of variation.

And there are plenty of really good bug Pokemon.  Heracross, Scizor, Armaldo and Shedinja are up there with the best of them.

Ive got to agree with Heracross. Heracross is part of my pokemon Saphire Ultimate Team... shedinja isnt really that good, its just a freaky novelty like ditto or something. It doesnt really have any decent attack power... I suppose Flygon (another component of the ULTIMATE TEAM) could count as a Bug, despite the fact its actually... wait, now I cant remember... is it flying and earth or is it bug and earth and has levitate?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on June 17, 2006, 05:42:23 am
I prefer steel, phycic and ice pokemon, I can usually take on anything but a very strong fire pokemon collection
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 05:56:02 am
Heracross I'll give you that and that only.

Flygon is a Dragon/Ground pokemon with levitate but I agree Flygon was in my team for my assults on battle tower.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 05:57:04 am
Flygon+ Earthquake = instant win.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 06:07:26 am
Flygon wasn't a bug pokemon but I found that pokemon invaluble it was like 3 elements in one when you factor in levitate I think I might have to get back to Pokemon finish off my current game try out battle tower again. I so with they let bred pokemon in to that thing.

Anyone recommend a team from the Ruby side of the game last time I had Flygon Miltoic and Metagross thinking of dropping Metagross it was a bit of a weak link might see if a grab an electric so i can take care of Water Pokemon as thats the only real weakness that team previously had. Shame most electrics aren't built to take alot of punishment.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 06:29:05 am
I always attempted the battle tower with Flygon, Heracross and Kadabra
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on June 17, 2006, 06:40:11 am
Flygon gets raped by ice, which I tended to use so its not that good at all....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 06:56:36 am
Yeah but everyone gets raped by something so not much you can do there all you can do is make sure you have other in your team to compensate hence I'm looking for a good electric type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 07:28:00 am
Flygon gets raped by ice, which I tended to use so its not that good at all....
But Heracross can rape most ice types, so it works out well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 07:36:06 am
Really what attacks does Haracross learn that gives it the advantage over Ice? I didn't even know Bug had a type advantage for ice.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on June 17, 2006, 07:37:19 am
doesn't ice squish bugs?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on June 17, 2006, 07:51:30 am
Yes, it does.  :D

And elec. doesn't have the advantage over it either.

NULLIFIED!

TRY AGAIN!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 08:01:41 am
Bzzzt!

Heracross can learn (by TMs or breeding) kickass fighting type moves. The fact it has high defense means that 'counter' works very nicely against flying pokes.... as long as you dont mind your precious heracross nearly fainting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 08:09:25 am
Yes it does electric beats ice.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on June 17, 2006, 08:41:39 am
however ground rapes electric, and many steel are also ground
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 09:12:10 am
Yes it does electric beats ice.
Only because most ice pokes are water as well. Ground rapes Ice anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aname on June 17, 2006, 09:39:59 am
its the same thing. if you bought them all then you wasted 200 dollars. pwnt. the worst thing is that they come out with 2-3 differen't versions of the same game. year after year after year. *sigh* but if you haven't bought one before it is a good game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on June 17, 2006, 02:42:06 pm
Are they going to include the old Pokemon from the Red/Blue eras, in addition to the new ones?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on June 17, 2006, 03:25:08 pm
Bzzzt!

Heracross can learn (by TMs or breeding) kickass fighting type moves. The fact it has high defense means that 'counter' works very nicely against flying pokes.... as long as you dont mind your precious heracross nearly fainting.

Salac Berry Endreversal. Learns it naturally, and the berry can be obtained legally in R/S/E and Colloseum.

You don't need anything to fight Water/Ice types if you have Miltoic, though.

Toxic + Recover + Obscene Special Defense = What water/ice type?

That was the mainstay of my BT team. She was loaded with Ice Beam and Hydro Pump too, so she won most of my battles by herself. But she got murdered by decent steel-types. One day I will have my revenge, Registeel

My other two were Zangoose (Return > Slash as Consistency > Criticals) and Ninetales (a bit of a weak link, but Confuse Ray is the move of kings. I can barely remember her other moves - Flamethrower, Return or maybe Quick Attack  and... something?)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 17, 2006, 03:58:17 pm
Milotic is a total bitch to catch. I was way too exited the first time I managed to hook a feebass.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on June 17, 2006, 04:07:08 pm
For some reason I never found that one usefull.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on June 17, 2006, 05:30:03 pm
Are they going to include the old Pokemon from the Red/Blue eras, in addition to the new ones?
I thought they'd included those in every game to date?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lualmoba on June 17, 2006, 10:52:19 pm
The thing that annoys me the most about the pokemon games is that they always sell them in pairs or something like that. And you can only get all of the pokemons if you have both of the versions. So, if you want to have all of them, you have to buy two or more games instead of just one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2006, 11:32:22 pm
Hopefully you can trade on wi-fi that way we can work together to get them all.

Actully Zangoose might be a good idea to replace Metagross I can use TM's to give some extra moves Possibly an electric attack maybe even a pyscic move if I can find a good oen to teach. Then use the remain spots for more stratigic attacks then just offensive moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 18, 2006, 12:23:37 am
They never intended you to buy both versions, you're supposed to get one, and trade with people to get the missing Pokemon.  Though as the games decreased in popularity that became kinda hard.  However, Diamond and Pearl do use the wi-fi for trading and battling, and it also supports voice chat.  So any Pokemon you can't get in the version you buy, you can just look for someone online who does have the one you want.

Also, it's likely the older Pokemon won't be available in these games, they usually throw in some of the more popular ones, Pikachu, Vulpix, etc, but other than those few you'll need to trade with the older versions, or find some one on wi-fi with them.  All the old GBA games are compatable, so if you have a fully complete Pokedex in Emerald, you can trade them all over to Diamond and Pearl.  I also imagine that Battle Revolution will include some more of the missing Pokes.

its the same thing. if you bought them all then you wasted 200 dollars. pwnt. the worst thing is that they come out with 2-3 differen't versions of the same game. year after year after year. *sigh* but if you haven't bought one before it is a good game.

That same thing can be said for almost any game sequel.  Pretty much the same thing every time with small improvements here and there.  The series definatly needs some bigger changes in some places.  The graphics, mainly, but other than that, why change something that works so well?

And hey, is it just me or did Pikachu actually say "Pika" in the Battle Revolution video?  Could that mean they're finally using the proper voices, instead of the 8 bit sound samples?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lualmoba on June 18, 2006, 12:55:42 am
I just think that it's better if you can complete the whole game without having to trade, or having to buy more games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on June 18, 2006, 11:07:13 am
Im an old pokemon fan at heart. Its the only reason I entered the handheld market, and I cant wait to see the newest renactment.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 19, 2006, 12:50:04 am
I just think that it's better if you can complete the whole game without having to trade, or having to buy more games.

To be fair, you don't need all the Pokemon to complete the game.  The only point of having more is so you can build different, and perhaps better teams.
I really like the trading aspects of the game, and if there wasn't any exclusives, there wouldn't be much point.  If anything, I think they need to promote trading more, by having more variations of each Pokemon, or being able to customise them or something.

They've definatly taking trading a little too far recently though, it worked between two games, and perhaps even a third on the gamecube.  But now that it's become around 14, it's just stupid.  Wi-fi should help sort this out though, and I'm guessing most of the Pokemon that aren't in Diamond and Pearl will be in Battle Revolution for the Wii.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2006, 02:24:46 am
I think the idea of colour variation would be cool... ever since I saw a glitched purple crabby in pokemon gold... I didnt have any pokeballs so I didnt manage to catch it  :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 19, 2006, 03:03:55 am
All the old GBA games are compatable, so if you have a fully complete Pokedex in Emerald, you can trade them all over to Diamond and Pearl.

I hope so that way I can bring all my ruby Poke's over possibly even then trade them online for the rest I never had anyone to trade with so I was always stuck with the Poke's that came in the box Wi-fi will answer my pokemon collecting dreams.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on June 19, 2006, 05:22:22 am
I think the idea of colour variation would be cool... ever since I saw a glitched purple crabby in pokemon gold... I didnt have any pokeballs so I didnt manage to catch it  :'(
Those weren't glitches. Rare, coloured pokémon were a deliberate addition to the Gold/Silver games.

They've definatly taking trading a little too far recently though, it worked between two games, and perhaps even a third on the gamecube.  But now that it's become around 14, it's just stupid.  Wi-fi should help sort this out though, and I'm guessing most of the Pokemon that aren't in Diamond and Pearl will be in Battle Revolution for the Wii.
Yeah...  :-\
And odds are, nobody's going to want to trade their Mewtwo or whatever for some crappy pokémon anyone can catch in the new games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 19, 2006, 05:31:05 am
I'll be happy to trade back and forth just so I can say the Poke-dex says I got the thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 19, 2006, 05:39:21 am
I think the idea of colour variation would be cool... ever since I saw a glitched purple crabby in pokemon gold... I didnt have any pokeballs so I didnt manage to catch it  :'(

The Pokemon Stadium games on the N64 did this, depending on the nicknames of your Pokemon, they would slightly change colour.  So your Charizard for example could go a much brighter orange instead of the standard orange, or could even go bright red, or anywhere inbetween.  It was a great little addition that they've never used since, I'd love to see something like that included again.

But yeah, the purple Krabby wasn't a glitch.  All the games since Gold and Silver have used "rare coloured Pokemon" or shiny Pokemon as their commonly reffered to as.  Basically there's a 1 in 9000 chance the Pokemon you encounter will be a different colour from usual.  If you remember the Red Gyrados in Gold/Silver, that was one you got for free.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2006, 07:58:05 am
I think the idea of colour variation would be cool... ever since I saw a glitched purple crabby in pokemon gold... I didnt have any pokeballs so I didnt manage to catch it  :'(

The Pokemon Stadium games on the N64 did this, depending on the nicknames of your Pokemon, they would slightly change colour.  So your Charizard for example could go a much brighter orange instead of the standard orange, or could even go bright red, or anywhere inbetween.  It was a great little addition that they've never used since, I'd love to see something like that included again.

But yeah, the purple Krabby wasn't a glitch.  All the games since Gold and Silver have used "rare coloured Pokemon" or shiny Pokemon as their commonly reffered to as.  Basically there's a 1 in 9000 chance the Pokemon you encounter will be a different colour from usual.  If you remember the Red Gyrados in Gold/Silver, that was one you got for free.
Oh, cool. So are there rare coloured pokes in ruby/saphire as well?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on June 19, 2006, 10:37:59 am
Yes, I've caught several Shinies before, including a Wurmple and a Makuhita.  Shinies seem more common in R/S, though, but I do like them a lot.  If only for variety.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2006, 11:23:08 am
Do they evolve into different coloured pokes as well or do you have to keep them stunted to preserve their colouration?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on June 19, 2006, 12:37:04 pm
They all evolve as normal.  Every Pokémon, save possibly the Legendaries, have Shiny forms, so evolution isn't a problem.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 19, 2006, 01:10:54 pm
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsgbapicsshiny.html

Pictures of all the Rare coloured Pokemon.
Unfortunatly most of them are just simple pallete swaps.  Most blue coloured ones turn purple, green turns yellow, etc.  But some of them have a lot more effort put into them, the Charizard for example goes black.  Hopefully in Diamond & Pearl they put that much effort into all of them.  Having a red Mewtwo, or a yellow Scizor or something would be awesome.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2006, 01:19:50 pm
It works with ones which hatch from eggs too, right? <goes to breed 8000 trapinches in the hopes of getting a shiny flygon>
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on June 19, 2006, 01:27:45 pm
Yes, Shinies can come from eggs, too.
...
I'm guessing you really want one?  ;D

EDIT: Looking at that one page, it looks like Legendaries CAN be Shiny.  I did not know that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 19, 2006, 01:44:20 pm
Wow, theres practically no way of getting a shiny legendary though. Youd literally have to play over 8000 games just to have a realistic chance of getting one... and even then satisfaction is not guaranteed. Man, youd have to be super lucky to just get one by chance.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 19, 2006, 02:33:19 pm
I found my old sapphire game, and I plan on playing it again for fun. The odd thing is I had a dream I was playing the game. I was out in a field with no pokey balls. It was really odd  :-\

I need to stop reading the forums befor I go to bed, or I'll have Damned Zombie spaming my dreams
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lualmoba on June 19, 2006, 04:45:46 pm
I saw somewhere a secret where you could get one of the legendary pokemons (I don't remember which one) if you did something before seeing it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 19, 2006, 04:49:27 pm
I saw somewhere a secret where you could get one of the legendary pokemons (I don't remember which one) if you did something before seeing it.

I thought you could capture them anyway? What version are you talking about?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lualmoba on June 19, 2006, 05:07:16 pm
I saw somewhere a secret where you could get one of the legendary pokemons (I don't remember which one) if you did something before seeing it.

I thought you could capture them anyway? What version are you talking about?

I'm sorry, I meant that you could get a shiny legendary pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 20, 2006, 06:37:59 am
I gave in today. Talking about the game reminded me how much fun I used to have. So I went and got Fire Red today. I assume it's a remake, which is fine.

... And yes, I'm really leaving. I'm just wasting time till my ride gets here
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on June 20, 2006, 06:42:48 am
I gave in today. Talking about the game reminded me how much fun I used to have. So I went and got Fire Red today. I assume it's a remake, which is fine.

... And yes, I'm really leaving. I'm just wasting time till my ride gets here


See, I haven't given in quite yet. Snakes on a Plane might have finally caught hold of my soul, but Pokemon is still battling with its pessimistic defense mechanisms.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 20, 2006, 06:44:16 am
Ha ha. As soon as My exams are done I'm buying all the games I missed over the past half a year, I didnt even think of fire red/ leaf green but this thread has spurred me to get one of them... probably leaf green since I had blue version back in the day. Ah, nostalgia  :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 20, 2006, 07:16:29 am
I had blue back in the day but I would get fire red just try out the pokemon I never could from blue.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 20, 2006, 09:51:43 am
Ah, you see, I want leaf green so I can relive the glory days and catch all the pokemon I did when I was eleven.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 20, 2006, 10:07:35 am
Really wanna know how touch screen is involved... Can't wait for this game as much as spore! :o ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Flamester_ on June 20, 2006, 05:17:55 pm
Ah pokemon I liked the cards and game the tv series well i dont like ANY tv series where you have to follow a story line thats set by the series you miss ONE episode and you get lefft in the dust and considering the fact i like the genre the game series and have over 20 fan fics of pokemon I will defenitly buy this.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 20, 2006, 06:51:08 pm
Wow you like the tv series I couldn't stand to watch the series I always found the show it's self to be an insult to my own intelligence.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Flamester_ on June 20, 2006, 09:02:02 pm
Ops typo i meant i DIDNT like the tv series.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Aybraus on June 20, 2006, 09:26:51 pm
Pokemon Stadium can run on an N64.
The DS is as powerful as the N64, except without texture filtering.

And yet, Game Freak insists upon using the SAME graphics since 1999. *sigh*

At least I get Wi-Fi trading.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on June 26, 2006, 06:40:51 pm
I may wait for the third one that always comes out with just enough cool features that you hate yourself for not waiting..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Damned_Zombie on June 26, 2006, 06:49:47 pm
i was gonna go buy the new pokemon games tomorrow, but once I think about it, Oberic is right. I'll wait. I'll waste my money on Motley Crue albums instead :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lualmoba on June 26, 2006, 07:09:55 pm
i was gonna go buy the new pokemon games tomorrow, but once I think about it, Oberic is right. I'll wait. I'll waste my money on Motley Crue albums instead :P

I think those games are not out yet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Damned_Zombie on June 26, 2006, 07:15:41 pm
*smacks forehead*

Whatever...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on June 26, 2006, 07:44:53 pm
(I'm sorry for talking about fire red, but I don't feal like it needs it's own thread)

Did a good 16 hours on poke'mon at the lake. I like the updates they added, exept for the fact some people wont just give you the TM. You have to take the poke'mon you want to them so they can learn it. It's a real pain because you forget were people are.

Oh, and I need some help if you don't mind

Right now I'm stuck on the snorlaxes. I want to catch them, but he keeps resting and even when I do get him low he just pops out of the great ball. And I can't buy ultra balls (I dont think)

Oh, and is there a way to trade with Sapphire? I herd you can, but you have to do somthing. On that note, can you trade with any of the other versions? I would like to get my lvl 100 mews off my blue

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 27, 2006, 12:07:04 am
Paralize it or put it to sleep or self then get the health down but just wear him down into the red and catch. Also if you hit it with lots of accuracy reducing moves you can really take you time bringing down the health to get it really low the incedibly low health combined with sleep or paralize should do it also if you want you can just sit there and wait for it to run out of PP for the move.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 27, 2006, 12:22:22 am
You can't trade to Sapphire until you get the National Dex, and fixed the trade machine on One Island.  which is right at the end of the game.
It's very annoying how they limit which Pokemon you can use like this.  I wanted to start again on Fire Red recently using a few Johto and Hoenn Pokemon, but you can't.

I guess it's to stop you from trading over insanely high Pokemon from other versions, but surely there's a better way they could limit that?

Snorlax can be a pain to catch, do everything else you can first, beat Erika, fight all the Team Rocket guys in the Silph building, etc.  If you still can't catch Snorlax after that, then just kill one of them, and come back for the other later on.  You'll only need one, as you can breed more of them later on. 

Unfortunatly though, there's no way to trade between the older games.  The GBA games only work with other GBA and Gamecube games, apparantly it's impossible for GBA games to communicate with old Gameboy games, plus the stat system was completely reworked in Ruby/Sapphire.  They have at least promised that Diamond and Pearl works with all the GBA games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 27, 2006, 04:16:36 am
I think the trading restriction has more to do with discouraging people from restarting fire red/leaf green over and over to get all three starting pokes and both fossils.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 27, 2006, 07:14:12 am
I agree with Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 27, 2006, 11:52:25 am
There's nothing to stop you doing that though, you can trade over any of the original Pokemon to Fire Red/Leaf Green at any time.
It's only the ones that didn't originally appear, Totodile, Torchic, etc that it won't let you trade in.  Same goes for Emerald, it only lets you trade in Pokemon that can be caught in Hoenn until after you finish the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 28, 2006, 02:11:02 am
Oh, thats ok then. So I'd just need to breed an army of pikachus or geodudes in sapphire, then trade over loads of original good pokes like ditto (then I can finally breed my Blaziken and actually give it good moves, instead of ones which were 'necessary' at the time. HMs suck (except fly)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 28, 2006, 05:30:28 am
Should have done what i did with my copy of ruby just kept restarting until I got a female pokemon to start with I can get myself as many Mudkips as I like.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 28, 2006, 06:48:32 am
Well, when I started I wasnt aware that ruby/sapphire was a ditto free zone and by the time I realised that I had built up too good a team to consider restarting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 29, 2006, 04:38:07 am
I've played through the game a few times starting again once or twice I'me on a run through with mupkip starter its one of my best playing the game teams although I'll have to find some others for if I ever want to complete agaisnt people as the team is somewhat weaked by being forced to have some HM's in the party. I mean there are 3 water HM's you need an alternate in you team or you basically ruin the move set of your water pokemon of choice Surf it's self is a decent move but whats the point of having that and dive and waterfall. Also even if you have a fighting pokemon you don't want Rocksmash in your list way to weak for anything. Fly is a decent attack for solo play at least but if you ever compete agaisnt other people you be better off with Arieal Ace.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 29, 2006, 05:18:25 am
What were they thinking with rock smash? Its probably the suckiest move in the game after splash.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on June 29, 2006, 05:22:46 am
What are you talking about it's a killer move against rock type pokemon
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 29, 2006, 05:25:49 am
Karate chop is better against rock type pokemon and its one of the weakest fighting moves around... besides, how many rock types do you seriously expect to see? The only ones actually worth having in your team are Golem, Rhydon and Tyranitar (probably the best pokemon ever)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 30, 2006, 04:07:01 am
Karate chop is better against rock type pokemon and its one of the weakest fighting moves around... besides, how many rock types do you seriously expect to see? The only ones actually worth having in your team are Golem, Rhydon and Tyranitar (probably the best pokemon ever)

I don't have rock smash on any party pokemon that i use I was just complaining about how crap the move is and because you need to to pass areas some poor bastard pokemon has to get lumped with it and you have to switch in and out of your party to progress I'm doing voctory road I got 2 of my regular party stored on computer because I need so many HM's to get to the end of this thing.

Is it me but are the only Rock types worth having duel as Ground type as well? I'm not sure if Tyranitar is duel rock and ground never got that one yet. I seriously need to be able to trade one day so I can get Golem as well hopefully with wi fi I can do that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2006, 04:44:37 am
Tyranitar is rock/dark. Its double vulnerable to fighting types but otherwise it awesome... damn, I wish I could trade it over to Sapphire from Gold.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on June 30, 2006, 05:47:56 am
Just take a really sucky 'mon that you only caught to fill your 'dex, and give it as many HM's as it can learn. Water types can all learn three, plus often strength or flash. Problem solved.

No-one expects you to actually put HM's on pokemon you intend to use, with the possible exception of surf.

Fighting types are doing the business these days, what with the slapping down of Psychic and all. I find that the best rock-types are often the fossil pokemon, which are always pretty nifty. Armaldo's a good one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 30, 2006, 06:56:56 am
My problem isn't giving HMs to crap poke's I got that part down pat my problem is I'll be walking along a path find a rock is bloaking the path now f*ck I have to walk back tot he Poke-centre to get the poke that knows rock smash along the way I'll come across a shrub F*ck I traded out the poke that knows Cut for the one that knows rock smash.

Like I said with Victory road you need Rock smash i think strength, flash, surf and waterfall thats more than one team member you have to switch out. Especially if you made your diver your waterfall poke as well then you can only fit 2 other HMs you could make a poke designed for getting you through the cave if you standard water fromy yiour party knows surf but still to find a poke that can learn the other moves is a pain and you still need 2 pokemon anyway. I'm just lucky one of my standard 6 knows Strength and I only gave him that (aside fromt he fact I didn't want to switch for every time I wanted to move rocks) was that it was only just barel strong enough to finish off enemies who are in the red and I didn't want to waste PP from my strongest attack to get rid of 20 hp.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 30, 2006, 08:09:40 am
Just take a really sucky 'mon that you only caught to fill your 'dex, and give it as many HM's as it can learn. Water types can all learn three, plus often strength or flash. Problem solved.

No-one expects you to actually put HM's on pokemon you intend to use, with the possible exception of surf.

Fighting types are doing the business these days, what with the slapping down of Psychic and all. I find that the best rock-types are often the fossil pokemon, which are always pretty nifty. Armaldo's a good one.
Bah! I had to go and choose Cradily. Cradily= sucks. What does its anchor power actually do anyway?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on June 30, 2006, 11:06:42 am
I perfer Gardevior to them. (I still would if Psychic wasn't overpowered.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on June 30, 2006, 11:32:45 am
Just take a really sucky 'mon that you only caught to fill your 'dex, and give it as many HM's as it can learn. Water types can all learn three, plus often strength or flash. Problem solved.

No-one expects you to actually put HM's on pokemon you intend to use, with the possible exception of surf.

Fighting types are doing the business these days, what with the slapping down of Psychic and all. I find that the best rock-types are often the fossil pokemon, which are always pretty nifty. Armaldo's a good one.
Bah! I had to go and choose Cradily. Cradily= sucks. What does its anchor power actually do anyway?

It stops it from getting switched with Roar and Whirlwind 'n' stuff. It could be worse. The first time I fought the elite four, that Cradily wiped out my Swampert (no weakness to Earthquake, and x4 power giga drain is mean :( )

But again, fighting 'mon are the biz'. How do you like CROSS CHOP, huh, Cradily, huh?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 30, 2006, 11:25:04 pm
Your Ice and bug attacks are great agaisnt Cradliy just you have to becarefuly most Ice is also water type and few good bug type. Although your fighting pokes will cream Cradily there are plenty of good fighting type in the ruby and saffire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Flamester_ on June 30, 2006, 11:36:49 pm
Come on just about everyone knows about pearl and dimond wheres the love forpokemon mystery dungeon at?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 01, 2006, 03:23:02 pm
I perfer Gardevior to them. (I still would if Psychic wasn't overpowered.)

Yeah, Gardevoir is pretty good, syncronise can be really helpful and it learns future sight, which is always useful against highly resistant pokes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 01, 2006, 08:33:21 pm
Steel all the way, best defence of the lot
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 01, 2006, 09:05:09 pm
I only found one steel non-legendary that has any use, is Beldum and its eve's.

Can't they come up with better names?  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on July 01, 2006, 10:34:29 pm
...........

Have you HEARD of Skarmory? [/Jack O'Niell]  ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 01, 2006, 10:37:13 pm
Yes, and I never found use for it. It just didn't work at all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on July 01, 2006, 11:01:33 pm
I'm not really going to get deeply into it, but Skarmory's type combination makes it weak only to Electric types.  Combined with pretty darn good stats and good move potential, I'm afraid you'll find many very good Pokemon team builders utilize Skarmory in a variety of roles.  Unfortunately, I've never used one myself, but I know I've seen many teams that have utilized a Skarmory to good effect.  I've also seen Aggron, Steelix, and Magneton.  I frequently utilize Magneton, actually.  :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 01, 2006, 11:05:48 pm
Aggron, right I forgot that one. But other than that, nah....
Actually Steelix, but Aggron is better, that one can learn surf.  :D
And I would like to remind you of "Fire"
Possibily Ice as well, and my main problem is it can't get any good moves. (Fly is the best one.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on July 01, 2006, 11:23:44 pm
To be honest, I'm not that great of a team builder, I've just observed great team builders.  There's never been anyone for me to battle, so team building for me has been entirely a hobby.  I'd recommend a site more specialized than this for good team suggestions, honestly.  Pokemasters is good, but they aren't very active these days...

I can say, though, that a lot of Pokemon can be utilized effectively in roles you may not have thought of.  Ever seen the move Spikes?  Pokemon can be based around that move alone.  There's even a term for a kind of Pokemon that serves as a booster for others' stats: Baton Passers.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 01, 2006, 11:34:40 pm
Look, I uesd to be a master, a long time ago. But it fell out of style, and actually it felt like every game was the same after a bit.
I have already picked apart the mechanics of the game, and I rely on the ability of my well-placed moves to eliminate opp's in one or two moves. With how I set my Monsters up I had the weaknesses of everything I came up against usually. But don't think I entirely ignored stragety I still used a few moves but for me it just lost all exictement once I learned how to organise moves in such a way as to elminate any adversary.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on July 01, 2006, 11:40:29 pm
Which game was it you were a master of?  ???  Just curious, because the farther back you go the less like the current game it is.  It's really intense, from what I've read.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 01, 2006, 11:57:56 pm
Whats intense, my post or the game? And I decided out of sheer boredom more than anything else to keep beating them up to Sapphire. But they are all the same when it gets down to it. Its just a matter of figuring out the winning combonation, like any game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 02, 2006, 03:35:37 am
Skarmory is easily one of the best Pokemon there is.  It's a great counter against Ice, and has practically no weakness.  Very fast too.
And there are plenty of other good Steel types.  Steelix, Aggron, Scizor, Magneton.  It is one of the less common types, but still great.

And yeah, most Pokemon games follow the same basic formula, but the great thing about the game is just trying out different Pokemon.  There are hundreds of them, and each game has even more.  It's one of the few games, along with Oblivion that I can easily spend 100+ hours playing.  Not many other games can boast that.  And remember, you don't just need to use only the really strong Pokemon, it's a lot more fun just to use ones you like.  Just wait for Diamond and Pearl, so you can all go up against my level 100 Aipom - I don't stand a chance of winning, but that's not the point, is it?   ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 02, 2006, 04:20:37 am
I've found that if you mix steel and phycic you get a very hard to beat team
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 02, 2006, 04:24:49 pm
I've found that if you mix steel and phycic you get a very hard to beat team
Metagross?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 02, 2006, 07:14:23 pm
I've already mentioned that one....
Now that mon. is good!  :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on July 02, 2006, 07:28:02 pm
now there is another steel psychic, uh jirachi is its name I think
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 02, 2006, 07:38:16 pm
One of a kinds are being counted?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on July 03, 2006, 01:47:23 pm
I've found that if you mix steel and phycic you get a very hard to beat team
Metagross?

EEEEAAAAAAARRRTHHHQUUUUAAAAAAAKEEEE!

Seriously, I hate that thing. It's just a good thing I picked Mudkip.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 10, 2006, 04:12:22 pm
Aipom?!  ;D

Wintersnowblind, tell me you have more level 100s than THAT!

P.s.: Dake, tell em' about your shinies!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 10, 2006, 04:40:15 pm
I've found that if you mix steel and phycic you get a very hard to beat team
Metagross?

EEEEAAAAAAARRRTHHHQUUUUAAAAAAAKEEEE!

Seriously, I hate that thing. It's just a good thing I picked Mudkip.
not with Skarmoray, that just pwns ground types
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 10, 2006, 05:52:59 pm
Masa and Mune r my two skarms. both level five at present.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 10, 2006, 06:13:30 pm
I don't think  I ever reached level 100 with any pokemon I ussually just start over after a while but then I never had anyone to multi play with so after a while even 1337 four get really easy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 10, 2006, 06:37:08 pm
I only have 7 (i think) lvl 100s.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 11, 2006, 03:09:45 pm
My highest poke at this point is my level 90 (or thereabouts) flygon. He kicks ass.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 11, 2006, 06:19:44 pm
Damn right Flygon r0xx0rs.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: darkstar on July 11, 2006, 07:21:27 pm
horrible series, but they sure made some interesting games, I will probably pick up diamond when it comes out. Nice to see the return of day/night.

Personally i think gold/silver was the best, so hopefully this will be as good as those.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 12, 2006, 06:36:59 am
Three new Pokemon.  The squirrel is unbearably cute, but is it just me, or do they have an obsession with electric Rodents?

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/93879_90175_4065_resize_468lo.jpg)

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 12, 2006, 06:39:54 am
that squirel looks like someone has sat down and thought up a replacement for the other electric rodent, pikachu, that will sell a billion stuffed toys
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 12, 2006, 01:06:21 pm
Whats with the musical note parrot?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 12, 2006, 07:32:55 pm
You have a flygon!?  :o SWEET! I have one. Is' name is Samurai. One of my favrits. He's level 100.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 12, 2006, 07:37:29 pm
Who DOSEN'T?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on July 13, 2006, 06:10:04 pm
*raises hand* .. I'll get around to it sometime this month  :-\
...START FEEBAS!...
OH OH ! yay, I went fishing with a horribly grim determination to catch feebas.. and i got that piranha thing.. SHINY! yay.. not my first choice for a shiny but atleast it's dark type.. ok lemme get my memory and MAYBE I can help people get feebas, I don't know how random the blocks are.. my trendy phrase is "GIMME FEEBAS", ok right above that grass leading to the feebas river, surf over to the fisherman, face him in the water, go down until you at are the corner of the sand, then face right.. if that isn't the right spot after (super rod) fishing about 3-8 (er.. 6) times go one space to the right, .. I think that's where feebas is, i've went back and killed one just for fun (hehe, i have 6 spare feebas).
...END FEEBAS!...

Ok, as for level 100s I have one currently, next highest is 70 or 71 Linoone (pickup is awesome, i have 4 kings rocks!)
my 100 is of course, a Blaziken, and if I need some exp just slap the exp share on the lil' newbmon kill the league without healing or using a leppa berry, and wait through all that blasted gibbering so it'll save, rinse* and repeat.. Or use my linoone....

*by rinse I mean reset the game, under no circumstances should you ever rinse a game boy advance cartridge, as it may destroy your data or corrupt your game.. or .. uh.. rusttttt

ME WANT DS POKEMON!! WOOOOOOOOy
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 14, 2006, 06:41:34 am
In my current play through I'm about to assult the elite 4 again just training some last few levels before I start trying I got only just over level 50's so i kind of need a few more to have a realistic chance lucky they have the trainers eyes around places helps get a few more levels up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 08:05:10 am
A little hint, NEVER use Lvl. 100 ever except in battles where no XP can be gained. (Ex. player vs player battles)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 14, 2006, 08:09:23 am
Why not aside from the fact that the xp gain wouldn't be of any use to you whats wrong with bringing out the 100s?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 14, 2006, 12:07:21 pm
lol I use the elite four to raise the levels of any new pokemon I catch, you can go up about twenty lvls with exp. share
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 12:24:08 pm
Why not aside from the fact that the xp gain wouldn't be of any use to you whats wrong with bringing out the 100s?
My point exactly.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 14, 2006, 05:09:06 pm
lol I use the elite four to raise the levels of any new pokemon I catch, you can go up about twenty lvls with exp. share
Its the smart way to do it. It also allows you to raise the levels of your already very high pokes without being frustrated at the slow speed at which they gain XP (because youll be concetrating more on the newbie youre training)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 14, 2006, 08:12:31 pm
Guys, what about the Ev's? D'ya bother with em'?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 08:23:56 pm
Ev? I sorry I don't get it.
Unless you mean evolving. In that case, I might have to drop-kick you.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 14, 2006, 10:27:19 pm
Why not aside from the fact that the xp gain wouldn't be of any use to you whats wrong with bringing out the 100s?
My point exactly.

So there really isn't a downside to fighting with lvl 100s just there no good side hardly a reason to Never use lvl 100s.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 10:34:37 pm
Its a waste of time, thats the downside, I fight with them enough getting them there. Also thats XP you could be giving to other creatures of yours.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 14, 2006, 10:40:12 pm
Wha you can't enjoy fighting with your favorite Pokemon?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 14, 2006, 10:55:55 pm
Effort values... ::)
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/ev.shtml
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 14, 2006, 11:07:28 pm
That sounds like complete bull, if that was true then why didnt I ever gain + 8 in a single stat ever?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 14, 2006, 11:09:43 pm
Because you didnt lvl on nothing but spinda.  ;D Iys worked for me. My kyogre is gooood! 390 sp atk.

Correction: 427
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 14, 2006, 11:27:33 pm
Effort Values are true you the best way to test it out take a pokemon put the Macho Brace on it and do some training in the whismer cave. Whismer's give HP Ev's and the Macho Brace doubles the amount of EV's you get from a battle when you level up you will see you have a huge boost to your Health.I can't rememeber allt he good places for training certain stats. Although if I rememeber correct fighting Numels just outside the Firey path is real good for Special Attack.

Also put exp share on another Pokemon on both pokemon recieve the bonus from the Ev as unlike exp points Ev's aren't split up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 15, 2006, 12:31:24 am
They need to change the stat system badly.  The EV's are completely broken.  They weren't a bad idea, but now that everybody knows about them and how they work it gives some people a massive advantage.  These stats are supposed to be hidden for a reason.  Frankly, the series was a lot better back in the Red/Blue days with none of this EV crap and people just played and battled for fun.  Me and my friends that play never train our Pokemon beyond level 50.  Training them any higher just takes too much time, and that's a nice round level for battling.

In better news, Electabuzz has an evolution.
http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0706/dp.shtml
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 15, 2006, 12:45:40 am
Actully if you ask me Ev's add an extra level to training it puts stratergy into it and allows for deeper battle straterfy do you want something that hits hard with the 1st attack or maybe something with staying power that will take a ton of damage? Do you want to just increase the the strengths of a pokemon or work on its weakness's to make it more well rounded.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 15, 2006, 01:48:20 am
If you ask me EVs are counterintuitive. Surely it should depend onwhat your pokemon's actions are. For example, if they take a lot of damamge then they should have larger defense and HP gains, if they dole out lots of damage, they should gain attack/sp. attack. I dont see whay only attacking spindas would cause your poke to become a mighty attacker. It makes no sense. Also, you can just use vitamins. Since EV are capped and by the time youre doing things like this money wont be an issue, theres no point in attacking whismurs 'till your thumbs bleed
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 15, 2006, 02:01:02 am
If you ask me EVs are counterintuitive. Surely it should depend onwhat your pokemon's actions are. For example, if they take a lot of damamge then they should have larger defense and HP gains, if they dole out lots of damage, they should gain attack/sp. attack. I dont see whay only attacking spindas would cause your poke to become a mighty attacker. It makes no sense. Also, you can just use vitamins. Since EV are capped and by the time youre doing things like this money wont be an issue, theres no point in attacking whismurs 'till your thumbs bleed
You know thats kind of what I thought when I saw the EV thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 15, 2006, 02:08:48 am
me neither, and If I want a ridiculosly strong pokemon relative to it's lvl I'll just get a very low lvl jiggylypuff use a moonstone on it as soon as it learns sing and then teach it a bunch of tm's by the time it's lvl30 it can take on a normally evolved pokemon of around lvl 40
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 15, 2006, 07:05:49 pm
If you ask me EVs are counterintuitive. Surely it should depend onwhat your pokemon's actions are. For example, if they take a lot of damamge then they should have larger defense and HP gains, if they dole out lots of damage, they should gain attack/sp. attack. I dont see whay only attacking spindas would cause your poke to become a mighty attacker. It makes no sense. Also, you can just use vitamins. Since EV are capped and by the time youre doing things like this money wont be an issue, theres no point in attacking whismurs 'till your thumbs bleed

Actully I'll admit that sounds like a good idea I'd much rather see that implemented although i guess it would be hard to say train your defence as you would be constantly on the look out for faster and generally higher level pokemon otherwise you just end up strikeing 1st and getting 1 hit KO's
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 15, 2006, 11:14:32 pm
I don't know if anyone posted this yet but there is a trailer for this.

It's Japanese though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXqZ8TlaaNs&feature=Views&page=1&t=t&f=b)

Next to the video there are some other videos showing some of the gameplay. It looks kinda 3D-ish.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 16, 2006, 12:27:41 am
The commercial also shows some kind of Pokemon customisation.  We can't really say to what extent, but he dragged a crown on to the Squirrels head.  Hopefully you can get lots of items like this that show up in battles.  Having more personalized Pokemon is something I've wanted for a long time, and since this one can be played online, I think it's almost necessary to be able to do this. 

I want a Pikachu with little flight goggles, and my Aipom with a beret.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 16, 2006, 02:27:09 am
The overworld is 3d(ish) but its still dissapointing the battles are static exchanges of little symbols.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 16, 2006, 05:57:19 am
Oh yeah, apparently the Ev's for pokemon are based on their best stat. So spinda, roselia=Sp Atk. evs. Anyway, Ev's do generally give you good pokemon. That wigglytuff would be pretty good with or without Ev training, but with Ev's it would be more focued. That's why I have some that are Ev'ed and some that aren't.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 17, 2006, 12:44:27 am
Some new snippets of information


I like the fact they've changed the battle system, I only hope it's more than what has been said.  I still think the IV/EV system should go.  There's no point in having a hidden stat system when everyone knows about it.  I know the really hardcore fans will still argue with me, but it's one of the few factors that makes the battle system completely broken.  How about we have a fun game that anyone can play, instead of it being worse than a typical MMO, in where whoever grinds the most, wins.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 17, 2006, 02:41:18 am
I'm glad theye finally broken out of the stupid fire/water/grass starting cycle. Now if they can just not name the professor after a tree we're laughing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 17, 2006, 03:47:02 am
If Ev's are gone in the sequel, I'm gonna be kinda suprised. Since they'll be compatible with r/s/e/fr/lg/e. But it would be nice if they dissapeared. Matt is gonna be really thrown off by the new battle system element thingy. But the starters should not not NOT be dark and psi. That would be unbalanced. A complete immunity. Not nice.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 17, 2006, 05:10:04 am
I don't see what's wrong with having Dark, Fighting and Psychic, it works out pretty well.  Dark is completely immune to Psychic, but I don't see where that would be a problem, even if the rival still picks a type advantage over yours, it's not like the Psychic Pokemon will have any psychic attacks at all to begin with, and by the time it would be a problem, you're going to have more than the one Pokemon.  I'm glad they've finally decided to mix things up, I loved the old starter types but it's been done, it's boring, it's about time they tried something new.

And hey, Lucario may actually be a starter Pokemon.  He was previously believed to be a Legendary, but so was Blaziken.
Since he's a fighting type, has been shown as a male Pokemon, and is always around level 40, it wouldn't surprise me to see him as a starter.  (Yeah, there are still things going against it, but I can still hope.)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/182px-Lucario.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 17, 2006, 05:45:13 am
I like this new starter as a change from fire water and grass although something have kind of hoped to see was have the 3 starters duel types as fire/grass, grass/water and water/fire. Although I guess that can be done with any 3 rock paper siccors set.

Personally I don't see how it's to much of a grind as to be the best you have to be lvl 100 which takes massive grinding it's a matter of if you do it at the elite 4 or at a place that specializes in what you planning on improving and in anycase by the time you have a team that can take on the 4 with any hope of winning you have probably maxed out your Ev's anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 17, 2006, 08:57:32 am
And hey, Lucario may actually be a starter Pokemon.  He was previously believed to be a Legendary, but so was Blaziken.
Since he's a fighting type, has been shown as a male Pokemon, and is always around level 40, it wouldn't surprise me to see him as a starter.  (Yeah, there are still things going against it, but I can still hope.)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/182px-Lucario.jpg)

It honestly doesnt look like a legendary to me. It has the feel of the third evolution of a starter from the last few games.

Its clearly what evolves from a small fox like creature. (which seems like an ideal starter)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on July 17, 2006, 07:16:17 pm
The last pokemon game I played was silver, with the exception of a few hours of Ruby from a freind. I might get the DS light (I'm currently on color, been saving up for Spore and all related expenses :D) and then try this out. So excuse me, but what is this whole Ev thing?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 18, 2006, 03:05:10 am
Ev is Effort value I think it was introduced in R/S basically its a behind the scenes value. Basically it determines where various bonuses to your stats go at level up. Where there Evs go depend on the pokemon you battle.

Example: Whismer's give you HP Evs so battleing alot of Whismers will increase give you a huge HP boost on lvl up. Numel's have SpAtt Evs so battleing lots of them give Special attack Bonuses at level up. Also naturally better evolved pokemon give better Evs but finding wild evolved Pokemon is harder.

Thats the basics of it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 19, 2006, 02:47:25 am
Lucario doesn't look very apealing..I wonder what the legendaries (not the oness one the covers of the games) will be..?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 19, 2006, 03:18:11 am
Yeah finished Poke Ruby for the 3rd time today (by finished I mean beat the Elite 4) now I can consentrate on Battle tower.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 20, 2006, 12:28:43 am
It's amazing they're still making pokemon, and people still play it (in secret) lol. I remember my blue version, pwning all challengers with my lvl 100 Mewtwo, Jolteon, Articuno, Charizard, Blastoise, and Parasect (ya, thats right, PARASECT with SLEEP SPORE). lol

I think I may get back into Pkmn cause honestly, I really miss the little guys :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 01:57:24 am
I dont see whats so funny. I think pretty much everyone had a parasect in the original pokemon... it was one of the best.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on July 20, 2006, 03:57:52 am
As big of a fan as I am for the series, I never get hyped up for the games before their release but I know it's still inevitable that I'll easily put in a few hundred hours raising at least 6 more Lv 100's. I just know it's going to screw up my A-Levels.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 20, 2006, 03:59:21 am
I dont see whats so funny. I think pretty much everyone had a parasect in the original pokemon... it was one of the best.
What Scither was the cooledt and the best. I mean come on he could do a regular attack before most creatures could do a quick attack
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 04:23:19 am
I had blue version... all I could get was crappy Pinsir... did anyone actually suceed in catching a kangaskhan at the safari zone? i think I managed to in the end, and I did it without resorting to the missingno exploit
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 20, 2006, 05:34:08 am
I never really tried, it was just too fustrating
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 20, 2006, 07:32:12 am
Yes, I got one, or 4, I can't remeber how many. No more than 4 I think. As for my team no I didn't have Parasect.
Lvl. 100 all
Mewtwo
Articuno
Zapdos
Dragonite
Nidoqueen
Raticate
This takes me back to the time that I was being challenged by this "Master" of the game. During the match, I noticed a certain trend he was doing. It eventually came to our mewtwo's (Early on) in combat. Guess which move he uses? Go on guess. Don't know? Think you know? Well, you are almost certainly wrong no matter what, he used Hyper Beam! Against a mewtwo! I attack and use the off turn to recover. Then, he tries it again!!!  (The trend was that he used Hyper beam more than all other moves combined.) I won with ease, though I was pretty upset that everyone still thought he was far superior to me despite watching the thrashing personally. I had two rematches with him and he did a little better, somewhere along the line learning not to lean on Hyper beam so much, but I still won with ease. (He also had all Lvl. 100's) And everyone still says he is better. That was about 5-7 years ago though, another thing is I guided him though the maze to find that mewtwo and he said that he did it 100% by himself to everyone after. I'm not mad, after the second match and even the first time I found their ignorance amusing. Holy **** I typed a lot. Better shut up now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 08:10:43 am
But the mewtwo maze is pretty easy. Youd have to be some sort of foolish person to not get it eventually.

Having said that, the first time playing the game I didnt realise you could, and were in fact meant to catch the legendaries and mewtwo... my 11 year old brain just thought they were pretty weak bosses. Well, needless to say I restarted the game and caught them (although not all of them   :'()
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on July 20, 2006, 11:06:32 am
Yes, I got one, or 4, I can't remeber how many. No more than 4 I think. As for my team no I didn't have Parasect.
Lvl. 100 all
Mewtwo
Articuno
Zapdos
Dragonite
Nidoqueen
Raticate
This takes me back to the time that I was being challenged by this "Master" of the game. During the match, I noticed a certain trend he was doing. It eventually came to our mewtwo's (Early on) in combat. Guess which move he uses? Go on guess. Don't know? Think you know? Well, you are almost certainly wrong no matter what, he used Hyper Beam! Against a mewtwo! I attack and use the off turn to recover. Then, he tries it again!!!  (The trend was that he used Hyper beam more than all other moves combined.) I won with ease, though I was pretty upset that everyone still thought he was far superior to me despite watching the thrashing personally. I had two rematches with him and he did a little better, somewhere along the line learning not to lean on Hyper beam so much, but I still won with ease. (He also had all Lvl. 100's) And everyone still says he is better. That was about 5-7 years ago though, another thing is I guided him though the maze to find that mewtwo and he said that he did it 100% by himself to everyone after. I'm not mad, after the second match and even the first time I found their ignorance amusing. Holy **** I typed a lot. Better shut up now.
Raticate? Weak... Powerful weak...  :-\

Heh, that takes me back to this time I beat this guy by using my Mew to transform into his Metwo and hitting it with five Flashes in a row. Good times...

I had blue version... all I could get was crappy Pinsir... did anyone actually suceed in catching a kangaskhan at the safari zone?
Yeah. You get used to the Safari Zone after a while.

Oh, and Pinsir > Scyther.
The only decent moves Scyther had were Slash and Sword Dance.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 11:10:13 am
The only decent moves pincir had were...uh. Nothing really. Vicegrip. Woop!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on July 20, 2006, 11:16:36 am
I caught all 151 pokemon on blue, plus the various trading I had to do :) Yes, I as the pokemon uber-master. I kind of got dissapointed when I went to this one guy in a mansion and all he gave me was a stupid diploma for capturing all of them.

I had blue version... all I could get was crappy Pinsir... did anyone actually suceed in catching a kangaskhan at the safari zone? i think I managed to in the end, and I did it without resorting to the missingno exploit

Forget Khangeskhan, Taurus took forever to get.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on July 20, 2006, 11:30:22 am
The only decent moves pincir had were...uh. Nothing really. Vicegrip. Woop!
Seismic Toss, Guillotine, and Slash and Sword Dance...

I caught all 151 pokemon on blue, plus the various trading I had to do :) Yes, I as the pokemon uber-master. I kind of got dissapointed when I went to this one guy in a mansion and all he gave me was a stupid diploma for capturing all of them.
Did anyone else find that van near Vermillion where Mew could supposedly be caught? I felt more cheated by that than by the diploma...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 11:49:03 am
yeah, what the hell was the point of the van?

You had to make some very unintuitive decisions (get intentionally killed) to get there and it didnt do anything. The diploma sucked though. In japan they got Mew  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on July 20, 2006, 11:49:49 am
Yea, I heard you couldn't get cut from the ship, so you had to have some guy trade it to you. I tried doing this, but no one played pokemon anymore. At least with diamond and pearl we can trade over wi-fi. I got my own mew from a friend who had gameshark.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 20, 2006, 11:51:56 am
No, what you had to do was get cut, then get yourself killed by one of the trainers on board. The trigger for the ship to leave was you going out via the exit.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on July 20, 2006, 11:52:58 am
The only decent moves pincir had were...uh. Nothing really. Vicegrip. Woop!
Seismic Toss, Guillotine, and Slash and Sword Dance...

Scyther had two of those in addition to being one of the fastest pokemon in the game and lets not forget fury cutter that move is lethal also it evolve into Scizor which is one hell of a kick ass pokemon( it's only weakness is fire, everything else it has a decent level of resistance too)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on July 20, 2006, 12:05:06 pm
No, what you had to do was get cut, then get yourself killed by one of the trainers on board. The trigger for the ship to leave was you going out via the exit.

Hmm.. I must investigate this again...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 21, 2006, 03:32:30 am
Man I havent played Blue in ages I never got all the pokemon as I never had anyone to trade with but I think I got all the pokemon on the blue version save for one or 2 that needed to be evolved I got Poke Stadium on 64 which got me the Eevee's the other fighting poke and the other starters though.

Also my typical team from poke blue was
Blastoise
Zapdos
Rhydon
Ninetales
Mewtwo (although Kadabra would be a stand in if Mewtwo wasn't aloud in battle)
Victereebell (sp?)

Also playing Poke Ruby on the train to work this morning my Poke's caught the Poke-rus w00t uber Ev gains for me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on July 21, 2006, 07:05:43 am
I found this chart (http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/animelee_pokemon-r-s_engl.gif). Is it something that everyone already knew, or have I made a breakthrough?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on July 21, 2006, 08:00:12 am
The only decent moves pincir had were...uh. Nothing really. Vicegrip. Woop!
Seismic Toss, Guillotine, and Slash and Sword Dance...

Scyther had two of those in addition to being one of the fastest pokemon in the game and lets not forget fury cutter that move is lethal also it evolve into Scizor which is one hell of a kick ass pokemon( it's only weakness is fire, everything else it has a decent level of resistance too)
I won't argue that Scizor kicks ass, but there was no Scizor or fury cutter in Red and Blue.
I found this chart (http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/animelee_pokemon-r-s_engl.gif). Is it something that everyone already knew, or have I made a breakthrough?
No, that's for Ruby/Sapphire, not Diamond/Pearl.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 26, 2006, 09:18:38 pm
So, what dya think think the starters will be? I'm thinking a fighting/dark fox-likethingy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 26, 2006, 09:21:43 pm
I vote we get a critter that eventually evolves into something like my avatar/RP/Spore species the Necromonicon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 26, 2006, 09:25:06 pm
I thiink nintendo may still be open to suggestions.  ;D But I doubt it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on July 26, 2006, 11:23:14 pm
Hey I just realized that the Dorapion looks like the Gligar in gold and silver also korobooshi looks like illumise and volbeat in ruby and sapphire also Diaruga looks like suicune and Parukia looks like a Lugia crossed breeded with a Dragonite
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on July 27, 2006, 01:08:37 am
I found this chart (http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/animelee_pokemon-r-s_engl.gif). Is it something that everyone already knew, or have I made a breakthrough?
firstly ralts-kirlia-gardevoir, bagon-shelgon-salamance, and chimecho should not be in the legendary part of that thing. secondly:

YAY!! I finally figured out Attack and SP.attack!! yay, ok for anyone who wants to know, attack only seems to work for fighting and normal, the other 12 elements seem to use SP.attack, and they are NOT so similar as i thought, most pokémon get atleast 1 or 2 normal attacks, and normal is only weak against rock and steel...

also, normal pokémon seem to not be as popular, 2 cents: they only take super damage from fighting (the other attack stat element ;))!.. well as far as I remember..

... wait a minute....... doesn't earthquake get stronger with higher attack..?? is ground an attack stat element?.... ok.. I just realised that I could be wrong, anyone else care to explain it? (if I'm wrong that is..)

EDIT:   
Attack represents the strenght of a Pokémon when using physical attacks (Normal, Fighting, Poison, Ground, Rock, Bug, Flying, Ghost, Steel) while Special Attack is the same but for special attacks (Psychic, Water, Fire, Ice, Grass, Electric, Dragon, Dark).

found this on some site. I...  :'(  I was wrong!! NO!!!! well this is awesome.. ok dragon is special.. .. ok... remember! ARGH!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 27, 2006, 05:35:21 am
its like this

Attack is:

Normal, Fighting, Flying, Steel, Rock, Ground, Ghost, Bug, Poison.

Sp Attack is:

Fire, Water, Grass, Electric. Psycic, Dark, Dragon, Ice
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on July 27, 2006, 08:38:55 am
me neither, and If I want a ridiculosly strong pokemon relative to it's lvl I'll just get a very low lvl jiggylypuff use a moonstone on it as soon as it learns sing and then teach it a bunch of tm's by the time it's lvl30 it can take on a normally evolved pokemon of around lvl 40

I go away on holiday and this is the lack of Pokeknowledge that awaits me on my return?

Evolving a pokemon early does not make it stronger

Repeat:

Evolving a pokemon early does not make it stronger

Preventing a pokemon from evolving to learn moves will not make it weaker in the long run. Evolving your Jigglypuff early won't make a difference, so it's best to wait until it's learned any natural moves that you want it to know before evolving it.

Besides, if you want a very strong pokemon, Wigglytuff isn't for you. If you want a sleep attack, try to get a pokemon that knows Spore - 100% accuracy against Sing/Hypnosis' 55%, but it's a rarer move.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 27, 2006, 09:17:46 am
Actually evloving it early does make it weaker, but with the ev's it becomes insignificant.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 27, 2006, 10:08:34 am

me neither, and If I want a ridiculosly strong pokemon relative to it's lvl I'll just get a very low lvl jiggylypuff use a moonstone on it as soon as it learns sing and then teach it a bunch of tm's by the time it's lvl30 it can take on a normally evolved pokemon of around lvl 40

Plus, I can take a level forty with my level twenty five! Especially in double battles.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: TheNecromonicon on July 27, 2006, 10:17:12 am
I once had a Raticate that could kill my friends Mewtwo. Needless to say his Mewtwo sucked lol
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Vivec on July 28, 2006, 09:50:47 am
Besides Diamond and Pearl, what's the newest?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on July 28, 2006, 09:59:40 am
pokemon dungeon or whatever is the newest one i think, but it's just a spinoff. if ur talking about the classic pokemon rpg's then emerald is the latest (released like last year i think)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Vivec on July 28, 2006, 10:01:03 am
What about the FireRed and LeafGreen stuff? Are those newer?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 28, 2006, 10:16:46 am
Fire Red and Leaf Green are remakes of the original Red and Blue.  They were actually released before Emerald, but have better graphics, menu's and a few other things.  If you want to get back into Pokemon, they're really the games to get.  The nostalgia is great, but it's all updated with better graphics, and things brought into it in later games, such as abilities and holding items, etc.  There's even a new set of Islands you get to travel to after you beat the Elite Four, where you can catch a lot of the Pokemon that were available in Gold and Silver.

Fire Red/Leaf Green are great to play, where as Emerald feels like a cheap update of Ruby and Sapphire with bad animations added in and a few features slapped on at the end.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on July 29, 2006, 05:28:04 pm
Fire Red and Leaf Green are remakes of the original Red and Blue.  They were actually released before Emerald, but have better graphics, menu's and a few other things.  If you want to get back into Pokemon, they're really the games to get.  The nostalgia is great, but it's all updated with better graphics, and things brought into it in later games, such as abilities and holding items, etc.  There's even a new set of Islands you get to travel to after you beat the Elite Four, where you can catch a lot of the Pokemon that were available in Gold and Silver.

Fire Red/Leaf Green are great to play, where as Emerald feels like a cheap update of Ruby and Sapphire with bad animations added in and a few features slapped on at the end.
But weren't Yellow/Crystal the same thing?

I wonder what the Diamond/Pearl equivalent cash-in will be called... They're starting to run out of things to name them after.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on July 29, 2006, 05:55:46 pm
Adamantine, hopefully. And no they aren't, there are still tons of names to give them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on July 30, 2006, 12:24:17 am
Fire Red and Leaf Green are remakes of the original Red and Blue.  They were actually released before Emerald, but have better graphics, menu's and a few other things.  If you want to get back into Pokemon, they're really the games to get.  The nostalgia is great, but it's all updated with better graphics, and things brought into it in later games, such as abilities and holding items, etc.  There's even a new set of Islands you get to travel to after you beat the Elite Four, where you can catch a lot of the Pokemon that were available in Gold and Silver.

Fire Red/Leaf Green are great to play, where as Emerald feels like a cheap update of Ruby and Sapphire with bad animations added in and a few features slapped on at the end.
But weren't Yellow/Crystal the same thing?

I wonder what the Diamond/Pearl equivalent cash-in will be called... They're starting to run out of things to name them after.

They basically were, but they had more worthwhile features.  Yellow was vastly different, including a lot of elements from the anime.  The little Pikachu following you wass awesome.  Guess it didn't appeal to everyone.  And Crystal had really nice animations, and a more indepth story about Suicune.

Emerald really doesn't add anything of value, unless you're a hardcore trainer.  It's animations are just done by sprite morphing, which looks really ugly.  Most of the Pokemon just jump up and down and shake their heads.  Almost everything else it added is for EV training.  The Battle Frontier is supposed to be their for a "real" challenge, but it's completely ruined by the fact the computer very obviously cheats - always sending out a Pokemon that's super effective against yours, their teams are created based on your weaknesses, and they often use attacks that aren't just super effective against yours, but super effective on the Pokemon you're just about to switch in..  hmm..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 30, 2006, 12:36:25 am
That sounds interesting in a way so does it work like you say have Swampert the game will send out a plant Pokemon just to be sure. Also is the opponents team decided before the battle starts or is the next pokemon to be sent out determined based on how the battle is going?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 30, 2006, 04:22:31 pm
The battle frontier cheats? :o It never did that with me, and I got all the symbols.

Something weird is happening to my old fire red cartridge. I guess the hex values are busted, cause only female pokemon appear. I've never touched the thing with any sort of cheating device, so whats up?  :P Plus I really was hoping the magikarp would be male (the one you get from the fishy-lookin' guy in the pokecenter outside mt moon.) For breeding. Unfortunatly, It is female, and thus useless in terms of breeding.  >:( This happened to anyone else?!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on July 30, 2006, 05:02:18 pm
The battle frontier cheats? :o It never did that with me, and I got all the symbols.

Something weird is happening to my old fire red cartridge. I guess the hex values are busted, cause only female pokemon appear. I've never touched the thing with any sort of cheating device, so whats up?  :P Plus I really was hoping the magikarp would be male (the one you get from the fishy-lookin' guy in the pokecenter outside mt moon.) For breeding. Unfortunatly, It is female, and thus useless in terms of breeding.  >:( This happened to anyone else?!
Useless?  ???
But don't males only pass on their moves? And doesn't Magikarp only know Splash and Tackle? :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on July 30, 2006, 05:47:25 pm
You think I'd breed it right after I got it?  ::) plus, magikarp eventually learns flail.  :P And magikarp can't inherit moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on July 31, 2006, 01:12:28 pm
Why would anyone possibly want to breed Magicarp?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 01, 2006, 12:13:28 am
Why couldn't they just have kept it simple, instead of making hundreds of new games and cards. I had the ambition to collect all the cards and play through all the games, but I gave up years ago :/

Ignore the card game, the spin-of games, the really bad anime, and the other annoying parts of the franchise.  Just stick with the main RPG's and you'll be fine, they're only released every four years or so, not counting the the updated third versions, or Fire Red/Leaf Green, which were remake.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 01, 2006, 04:47:34 am
Why would anyone possibly want to breed Magicarp?

Because Garydos (sp?) owns
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 01, 2006, 10:35:40 am
Base stat value thingys.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 01, 2006, 11:40:08 am
the lower the lvl you start training them the higher they can get to
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 01, 2006, 01:24:17 pm
Yes*, maybe**, no***.

*Gyarados has very powerful physical attacks, and only two weaknesses. Gold!

**Are hatched pokemon better than wild pokemon? I haven't noticed it, at least.

***Wtf?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 01, 2006, 01:30:14 pm
the lower the lvl you start training them the higher they can get to
O RLY?!

What are you basing that on? If you start EV training a newly-caught, high-level poke, it can get stat gains of 10+ points per level up. If you've been training it from level 5, it gets the same increases, but slower. There's a cap on the amount of stat points you can gain from EVs depending on what level you're on.

**Are hatched pokemon better than wild pokemon? I haven't noticed it, at least.
Not that I know of, but, with breeding, it's much easier to accumulate new pokes en masse and keep the one(s) with the most promising stats.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 01, 2006, 02:12:09 pm
what are you talking about!? if you train a pokemon (leveling it up, I have no idea what EV's even are and don't really care) from a very low level later on it' stats will be much higher than a wild pokemon that is off the same level
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 01, 2006, 03:06:09 pm
what are you talking about!? if you train a pokemon (leveling it up, I have no idea what EV's even are and don't really care) from a very low level later on it' stats will be much higher than a wild pokemon that is off the same level

Entertainingly, that's due to EVs, Effort Values. EVs add to stat increases at level up, and are gained by defeating other pokemon. Different types of pokemon give EVs for different stats. Wild pokemon start off with none, and thus have none of the increases to stats, but since there is a limit to the number of EVs that can be gained, as long as both pokemon have maxed them out, their initial level of capture is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 01, 2006, 06:07:45 pm
what are you talking about!? if you train a pokemon (leveling it up, I have no idea what EV's even are and don't really care) from a very low level later on it' stats will be much higher than a wild pokemon that is off the same level

Granted a poke that was trained from level 5 would be higher at level 30 than a poke of the same species caught at level 30 but by the time you hit level 100 you have maxed out each pokemons EVs and the only thing that that would make a differeance between the pokemon is the IV (indivdual values) and the bonuses granted from a pokemons personality which are not affected by level.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 02, 2006, 04:48:39 pm
Unfortunately though, there's no way to trade between the older games.  The GBA games only work with other GBA and Gamecube games, apparently it's impossible for GBA games to communicate with old Gameboy games, plus the stat system was completely reworked in Ruby/Sapphire.  They have at least promised that Diamond and Pearl works with all the GBA games.

Uhm, for some reason, a friend of mine doesn't believe diamond and pearl are compatible with r/s/e/fr/lg...could you cite your source?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 03, 2006, 10:24:48 am
Unfortunately though, there's no way to trade between the older games.  The GBA games only work with other GBA and Gamecube games, apparently it's impossible for GBA games to communicate with old Gameboy games, plus the stat system was completely reworked in Ruby/Sapphire.  They have at least promised that Diamond and Pearl works with all the GBA games.

Uhm, for some reason, a friend of mine doesn't believe diamond and pearl are compatible with r/s/e/fr/lg...could you cite your source?

Practically any videogame site with coverage of the game. Try www.serebii.net or even just Wikipedia. But Wikipedia hosts that absolutely daft "Psychic, Dark, Fighting" rumour, so don't rely on it for too much.

It's confirmed, though
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 03, 2006, 10:54:04 am
It was one of the developers themselves that stated the new starters are Psychic, Dark and Fighting.

A lot of people are still trying to pass it off as a rumour, but like I said, it came from one of the developers themselves on the official website - who also gave a lot of other information at the same time - that the psysical and special attacks are being changed, Roselia will have an evolution, etc, and all that other information we know for definate, I'm not sure why there's so much controversy over the starters types.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 03, 2006, 11:24:34 am
It would be a welcome change, anyway. I mean, Grass/Water/Fire was fine the first three times, but enough is enough!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on August 03, 2006, 12:39:40 pm
The Psychic/Fighting//Dark seems like a pretty cool addition. The old one just seemed so... obvious. :P Plus, those types of pokemon (P/F/D) tend to look cooler.

BTW, what is Pokemon Trapezei about? I've seen hordes of copies for it, and I have no clue as to what it is for.
Plus, what's the estimated release date for the new pokemon games?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 03, 2006, 01:02:37 pm
It was one of the developers themselves that stated the new starters are Psychic, Dark and Fighting.

A lot of people are still trying to pass it off as a rumour, but like I said, it came from one of the developers themselves on the official website - who also gave a lot of other information at the same time - that the psysical and special attacks are being changed, Roselia will have an evolution, etc, and all that other information we know for definate, I'm not sure why there's so much controversy over the starters types.

Because you'd have to be stupid to pick Psychic, as Dark is completely immune to it. Not to mention that the types run on different attack stats.

Plus, it seems odd that it doesn't appear alongside the confirmed information on Serebii, or, in fact, any site I've yet seen.

Pokemon trozei's a spin-off puzzle game. Match three pokemon heads in a row, blah blah blah.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 03, 2006, 01:13:22 pm
When would you ever be in a situation where you need to use a Psychic Pokemon against a Dark one, except the first rival battle, where your only attacks are Scratch or Tackle?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 03, 2006, 02:28:30 pm
When would you ever be in a situation where you need to use a Psychic Pokemon against a Dark one, except the first rival battle, where your only attacks are Scratch or Tackle?
Seriously.

When was the last time you had to resort to using Ember on a water type?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 03, 2006, 05:41:16 pm
I wouldn't be suprised if they made the psycic some kind of duel type pokemon anyway to overcome the fact that it is 100% in effective against dark type. Not actully giving it a secondary type that has an advantage just something random that is neutral like say flying for example.

Although Flying would be cool as it would help agaisnt the weakness to bugs but anyway its just something they could do.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 04, 2006, 07:02:01 am
When would you ever be in a situation where you need to use a Psychic Pokemon against a Dark one, except the first rival battle, where your only attacks are Scratch or Tackle?

Interestingly, the only psychic type that can learn tackle is... Starmie. And none of then learn scratch.

It happens surprisingly often early in the game, and you might not be able to secure a powerful fighter to deal with it. Psychic type has been nerfed more than enough already. A Dark-type starter might just push it too far.

Think about how the physical-special switch affects psychic-type: Alakazam's elemental punches suck, Hitmonchan's are suddenly badassed. Dark-types with hefty attack stat no longer need to rely on Shadow Ball for dishing out the hurt, they can use Bite and Crunch, and get the same-type-attack-boost. At least Psychics that can learn Shadow Ball can now fight back against Dark-types, but the switch hurts them more than it helps them.

If the Psychic starter was dual-typed, odds-on it'll be dual typed with fire, water, or grass. And so will the Dark. And there's already Fighting/Fire and Fighting/Water three stage pokemon.

When was the last time you had to resort to using Ember on a water type?

I can't remember using Ember. I use Flamethrower on water types all the time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 04, 2006, 07:16:36 am
Most Water/Grass/Fire types don't learn Scratch or Tackle either, but the starters did.
This argument is really pointless, yes, Dark has an immunity of Psychic, but it really doesn't make a difference.  Look at Venusaur's 4x Resistance to water, he practically was immune to it, did that make starting with Squirtle pointless, or difficult?

And if you're using Flamethrower on water Pokemon, then that's your problem.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 04, 2006, 07:34:37 am
Venusaur only has resistance to water, not double resistance. A determined enough Blastoise could take him, or he could learn Ice Beam and mash him good. Charizard can Slash Blastoise, or learn Earthquake or something.

A Psychic starter would need Shadow Ball to even stand a chance. It's a lot of hassle to balance the three against each other when there's already a perfectly good triangle triangle to use. Even a Fighting/Flying/Rock triangle could work, but total immunity just doesn't work.

Confuse Ray, Flamethrower, Flamethrower from a Ninetales can drop a same-level water pokemon most of the time, if it doesn't kill you with Surf. I used a Ninetales in Battle Tower. Psychic types really suffer there, if they're relying on Psychic as their main attack - it's tricky to get good special attacks onto a Psychic, since flamethrower/thunderbolt/ice beam TM's don't work for most of them.

The fact that we even need to argue about this makes the rumour seem less viable, to me at least: Why would Game Freak fight over this when it would be so much simpler to stick to what they know works?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 04, 2006, 09:35:29 am
A Psychic starter would need Shadow Ball to even stand a chance. It's a lot of hassle to balance the three against each other when there's already a perfectly good triangle triangle to use. Even a Fighting/Flying/Rock triangle could work, but total immunity just doesn't work.
Who says Psychic types have to have crappy attack power? All of the other starters up to now have had fairly decent stats in both Attack and Special Attack. Just because it works that way for most Psychics doesn't mean they can't have Tackle or Pound or something to start and a reasonable attack stat to go along with it.  ::)

In fact, there already are Psychic pokes with this kind of balance. Hypno has exactly the same Attack as Special Attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 04, 2006, 11:02:38 am
But what can Hypno do with that attack power? Shadow Ball... and that's about it.

Sure, they can have fine attack stats. But Psychic types tend not to get a lot of non-Psychic moves, so any starter would surely have to dual-type.

Still, this argument is based on the assumption that there won't be kickass new non-psychic moves that a psychic starter can learn. Perhaps there will be.

Besides, there are lots of triangles that don't have any total immunity - Fighting/Flying/Ice, for example, or Poison/Bug/Psychic. Why use Dark/Psychic?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 04, 2006, 12:59:16 pm
Poison isn't super-effective against bug anymore. Seems for some reason they decided to nerf what was already an underpowered type. Although they did the same thing to Ice...

And because they're cool, that's why!  :P

But I'd be fine with any type combination, it's just Grass/Fire/Water is getting boring at this stage.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 04, 2006, 01:02:38 pm
Hmm.. bug poison psychic..... Actually there could be plenty of non psychic attacks in D&P.. or .. maybe the weakness system will be slightly changed (I hope not..).. much like attack/sp.attack....  me want ditto!

Dark,psychic, and fighting are fine..  maybe they'll all get double typed..?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 04, 2006, 01:03:44 pm
You can get Ditto in FireRed and LeafGreen, I believe...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 04, 2006, 01:07:12 pm
yeah.. but I didn't even try to get them for a long time 'cause I thought it was just a stupid remake.. but it can trade with ruby!! yay. But, I want beedrill and meowth.. I can't get both with just fire red.. :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 04, 2006, 01:30:57 pm
In Pokemon XD for the Gamecube, you can get both Beedrill, and Meowth.
And if the alleged new starters shown on Serebii prove to be real, it looks as if the Psychic starter could be half electric.  Which would completely stop this Dark immunity crap.

They're not confirmed to be real, but the art style matches the previously shown Pokemon.  If it's fake, someone has gone to some amount of effort.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 04, 2006, 02:38:04 pm
Poison isn't super-effective against bug anymore. Seems for some reason they decided to nerf what was already an underpowered type. Although they did the same thing to Ice...

Whoa. When did that happen? I've played Sapphire for 100+ hours and didn't notice that'd changed. That's crazy!

So it seems you might be right. I'm still distrustful of those starters, though - Psychic Rhino? Sure, a Psychic Tapir makes sense, but a Psychic Rhino?

Still, at least Toxic's a badass move. Poison ain't all bad.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 04, 2006, 11:05:02 pm
Looks more like a Psycic Triceratops to me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on August 05, 2006, 05:51:17 am
Looks kinds lame to me. :P

I was going to go for a psychic if I bougth the game, but I'd rather have a boxing kangaroo.

Plus all I have to do is catch a dark pokemon to pwn my rival.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 05, 2006, 07:50:58 am
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/starters.jpg)

Well, here are the real starters.  Turns out they're fire, grass and water after all.
They look kind of cool, but it's pretty disapointing that they're going with the same types again.  Looks like the game is going to be nothing more than another rehash.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 05, 2006, 07:59:58 am
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/starters.jpg)
Argh! Why, Gamefreak, why!? :(

They look kind of cool
I disagree. The starters seem to have been getting progressively more lame-looking with each installment, and it looks to me as though the Diamond/Pearl generation is going to be no exception.

A flaming monkey? WTF? But it is good to see them following the whole "we can make anything look like a grass type by putting a leaf on its head" tradition.

Seriously, these are some of the ****tiest-looking Pokemon since Luvdisc. Except for the penguin, but only because a penguin pokemon seems like a good idea and I'm hoping its evolutions will look better.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on August 05, 2006, 10:27:05 am
Well, that's disappointing.  Though I do like the designs, it'd have been nice to have had something different to begin with.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on August 05, 2006, 10:33:55 am
I'm kind of dissapointed too. They aren't too bad, but they're just OK. You have to give props to the penguin though.

Anyways, you can call me crazy, but isn't there a possibility that there will be two, or possibly even more, starter packs? That would be awesome, though I'm not sure how it would work, or how other people would react.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on August 05, 2006, 10:40:14 am
I'm holding out hope that Diamond will have one set of starters and Pearl will have another.  It's not likely, really, but I'd be deeply happy about it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 05, 2006, 01:32:12 pm
No suprises. I kinda like the stick-a-leaf-on-its-head-and-dye-it-green method, personally. BUT THE MONKEY IS ****ED UP! I love the other two.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 05, 2006, 02:08:50 pm
Ah-HAH! Nuts to you, Dark-type!

Pity these starter actually look worse than the fake set.

Except the penguin. The penguin is the shizzle.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Nic on August 05, 2006, 03:18:20 pm
Anyways, you can call me crazy, but isn't there a possibility that there will be two, or possibly even more, starter packs? That would be awesome, though I'm not sure how it would work, or how other people would react.

Way back between ryb and gcs, I had (or read, don't remember) a similar idea. This was before Jhoto was announced, and the idea was that you could start in any city you wanted and the starters would change to reflect the pokemon local to the area. This seemed to make sense, because surely not every kid made the treck to Pallet town for their first pokemon? And the order you tackle the badges would change as well, using your original town as a starting point. I actually think this would be a cool idea, and not completely impossible from a programming stand point. But it is a lot more work from a gym balance stand point, as it would have to be re balanced for each possible play through.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 05, 2006, 05:07:41 pm
Hold on...

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2267/hikozaruib3.png)

Where is that fire coming from?  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 05, 2006, 05:22:51 pm
he's had chilli for tea. Does anyone else find that penguin annoyingly cute?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 05, 2006, 10:42:23 pm
Hold on...

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2267/hikozaruib3.png)

Where is that fire coming from?  :-\

Should be ok if it evolves into some kind of badass gorrila.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 06, 2006, 12:08:16 am
Ah-HAH! Nuts to you, Dark-type!

Pity these starter actually look worse than the fake set.

Except the penguin. The penguin is the shizzle.

Wouldn't try and sound cocky just yet.  There's still the fact one of the developers on the official website kept dropping hints about the starters being different types.  I can't believe any company would do that for no reason, least of all Nintendo.

Also, the penguins name in Japanese means "Rookie Fighter".  There's still a good chance they're dual typed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 06, 2006, 06:33:40 am
But it is good to see them following the whole "we can make anything look like a grass type by putting a leaf on its head" tradition.

NO! what you fail to realize is that they put TWO LEAVES on its head!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 06, 2006, 01:09:57 pm
Ah-HAH! Nuts to you, Dark-type!

Pity these starter actually look worse than the fake set.

Except the penguin. The penguin is the shizzle.

Wouldn't try and sound cocky just yet.  There's still the fact one of the developers on the official website kept dropping hints about the starters being different types.  I can't believe any company would do that for no reason, least of all Nintendo.

Also, the penguins name in Japanese means "Rookie Fighter".  There's still a good chance they're dual typed.

Well that would tie everything up neatly, wouldn't it? You could have a badassed Fire/Dark Ape and a Grass/Psychic Tortoise.

Which is odd, because that's the only way of combining the two triangles where every combination is already a Pokemon: Poliwrath, Houndoom, and Eggsecute respectively.

We shall see
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 06, 2006, 03:26:37 pm
Hold on...

(http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2267/hikozaruib3.png)

Where is that fire coming from?  :-\

I just assumed it was a tail... I guess I was wrong, and thank you for disturbing me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 06, 2006, 06:01:10 pm
Why can't it be a Fire/Psycic and dark/grass granted we already have dark/grass in Shiftry and i think Cacturn but fire Psycic I think is new. Anyway they may not gain there deul types until later evoltions Torchic doesn't duel type to a fighting pokemon unil after the 1st evo.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 07, 2006, 10:33:14 am
Why can't it be a Fire/Psycic and dark/grass granted we already have dark/grass in Shiftry and i think Cacturn but fire Psycic I think is new. Anyway they may not gain there deul types until later evoltions Torchic doesn't duel type to a fighting pokemon unil after the 1st evo.

Because Fire/Psychic and Dark/Grass screw up the triangle.

It's supposed to be unfair, not just even or even impossible.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 07, 2006, 12:25:59 pm
Why can't it be a Fire/Psycic and dark/grass granted we already have dark/grass in Shiftry and i think Cacturn but fire Psycic I think is new. Anyway they may not gain there deul types until later evoltions Torchic doesn't duel type to a fighting pokemon unil after the 1st evo.

Because Fire/Psychic and Dark/Grass screw up the triangle.

It's supposed to be unfair, not just even or even impossible.
Fire/Psychic and Grass/Fighting, then.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 07, 2006, 12:45:29 pm
Why can't it be a Fire/Psycic and dark/grass granted we already have dark/grass in Shiftry and i think Cacturn but fire Psycic I think is new. Anyway they may not gain there deul types until later evoltions Torchic doesn't duel type to a fighting pokemon unil after the 1st evo.

Because Fire/Psychic and Dark/Grass screw up the triangle.

It's supposed to be unfair, not just even or even impossible.
Fire/Psychic and Grass/Fighting, then.

Can you imagine that penguin turning into a Dark-type? Look into his eyes and tell me I'm a fool.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 07, 2006, 01:14:34 pm
I can imagine it. Remember that they don't ever stay that cute.  It can turn into a twisted evil dark emperor penguin-thing Or maybe look like one of those penguins with the spiky feathers...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 07, 2006, 06:13:03 pm
Or worse, it looks like a macaroni penguin!  :o  :-X
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 07, 2006, 07:45:59 pm
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/untitled.jpg)
OK.. these 3 are much better than the standard types 3.. and much better lookin' too. except.. the... penguin. I might actually pick water for the first time since I played blue..

fire monky is retarded.
grass turtle is too bland. (at level 5-15 of course)

edit1: If the 3 in the quoted pic ARE in the game, in any way, I WILL have/train them.. that dark cat thing is so cool!... ooh, they better put Eevee (sp?) AND ditto in.. always wanted the Eevee team..

edit2: Um, ok, umbreon is changed at night with max friendship, espeon is changed at day with max friendship.. what do you think sun stone and moon stone will be if they allow those to be used on eevee this time? moon=Ice? and sun=dragon?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 07, 2006, 08:47:10 pm
I have to admit no having Eevee's in R/S was a little dissapointing I hope they put them in this as its evo's were all awesome.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 07, 2006, 09:24:57 pm
edit2: Um, ok, umbreon is changed at night with max friendship, espeon is changed at day with max friendship.. what do you think sun stone and moon stone will be if they allow those to be used on eevee this time? moon=Ice? and sun=dragon?
I wouldn't be too hopeful about Moon/Sunstone evos for Eevee. If they were going to do that, they'd probably have added them already. Besides, 5 potential evolutions is more than enough for it.

Also, they still need to add Shrubeon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fade2gray on August 08, 2006, 11:33:26 am
Hey, I like the Fire monkey. Imagine the humiliation on your opponent's face when they have to say "I was beaten by a Flaming Monkey." :P :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 08, 2006, 12:37:42 pm
That's worse than my remark about spore drug dealers! *Whacks head* You just burned the previous image out of my head with one that's even worse!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 08, 2006, 02:20:13 pm
Hey, I like the Fire monkey. Imagine the humiliation on your opponent's face when they have to say "I was beaten by a Flaming Monkey." :P :D

Forget my previous comments, I love teh monkey!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 08, 2006, 02:21:01 pm
Hey, I like the Fire monkey. Imagine the humiliation on your opponent's face when they have to say "I was beaten by a Flaming Monkey." :P :D

It'll evolve into the most badassed thing. To me, this set of starters at least looks better than the Gold/Silver ones. Those were pretty dire.

Even their fully evolved forms looked pretty non-threatening.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 08, 2006, 06:43:33 pm
Only Meganium did that with me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 08, 2006, 07:07:18 pm
Only Meganium did that with me.
Feraligatr was okay, but a giant polecat with a fire on its back? Meh...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 08, 2006, 07:20:39 pm
I take back my previous statement. NO pokemon ever made me scared or even really looked like it could take me down or something... But Meganium... well... I just wanted to jump onto the back of the apatasaurus/flower hybrid.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 08, 2006, 07:38:14 pm
I don't want to get on the bd side of a Garydos. But the G/S starters really didn't look at interesting I have to admit. then again only Blaziken wa the only really super badass one from R/S Swampert wasn't too bad and septile looked dumb (plus generalyl sucked).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 08, 2006, 07:42:18 pm
I don't want to get on the bd side of a Garydos. But the G/S starters really didn't look at interesting I have to admit. then again only Blaziken wa the only really super badass one from R/S Swampert wasn't too bad and septile looked dumb (plus generalyl sucked).
No way! Sceptile wins for being one of the only fast Grass types in the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 08, 2006, 08:56:02 pm
Yeah but grass type suck in generaly and Spetile never learns that many good moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 09, 2006, 06:39:39 am
Yeah but grass type suck in generaly and Sceptile never learns that many good moves.
Leaf Blade

Although Grass-types are sort of screwed for powerful attack moves. Solarbeam? Fire-types can use it better, what with Sunny Day and all.

Come to think of it, Poison may be a lot less gypped than Grass: at least it gets Toxic and a powerful Sludge Bomb. And it only has two weaknesses (or one, is it's Koffing)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 09, 2006, 08:59:10 pm
Poison is weak agaisnt Psycic and Bug's and with Psycic being taken down a peg and the addition of Sludge bomb Grass is now the crappest type.

Plus leaf blade isn't all that hot It's not bad but not great. Giga drain is the closest thing to a good move and it only has a base of 5PP even if you use a ton of PP ups it only gets like maybe 7PP. Razor leaf is the only truely good grass attack.

Although at least now grass poison types are decent if you throw in th sludge bomb as you can use that as a mojor attack plus toxic and just have a bunch of secondary attacks.

I have a Breloom in my current party i almost ignore it's grass side i have an electrode to take care of water types and Swampert takes out rock and ground in any case fighting beats rock as well so it's all good.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 10, 2006, 07:30:08 am
Poison is weak agaisnt Psycic and Bug's and with Psycic being taken down a peg and the addition of Sludge bomb Grass is now the crappest type.
Poison is weak against Psychic and Ground, not Bug, and Grass is not the crappest type, that honour goes to Ice. Four weaknesses, and no resistances apart from itself. The fact that practically everything in the game can learn Ice Beam and/or Blizzard doesn't exactly help them much, either.

Plus leaf blade isn't all that hot It's not bad but not great. Giga drain is the closest thing to a good move and it only has a base of 5PP even if you use a ton of PP ups it only gets like maybe 7PP. Razor leaf is the only truely good grass attack.
Er.. Razor Leaf is exactly the same attack as Leaf Blade, only weaker and less accurate...  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 10, 2006, 09:25:58 am
So now we know what the worst type is, how about the best?

I say - Fighting! It's really pulled a Rocky since the days of Red and Blue. Now it pushes Psychic around like a big man!

And with Elementpunch going physical, it can exploit the weaknesses of anything that dares to take it on!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 10, 2006, 05:07:35 pm

Poison is weak against Psychic and Ground, not Bug, and Grass is not the crappest type, that honour goes to Ice. Four weaknesses, and no resistances apart from itself. The fact that practically everything in the game can learn Ice Beam and/or Blizzard doesn't exactly help them much, either.


The explain why my Beedrills Pin Missile attack is super effective agaisnt all manner of Poison pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 10, 2006, 05:28:57 pm
You raised a beedrill?  ::)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on August 10, 2006, 05:34:48 pm

Poison is weak against Psychic and Ground, not Bug, and Grass is not the crappest type, that honour goes to Ice. Four weaknesses, and no resistances apart from itself. The fact that practically everything in the game can learn Ice Beam and/or Blizzard doesn't exactly help them much, either.


The explain why my Beedrills Pin Missile attack is super effective agaisnt all manner of Poison pokemon.

You're still playing the original Red and Blue, in which Poison was strong on the attack against Bug and vice versa.  It was changed to the way it currently is in Gold and Silver.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 10, 2006, 05:43:41 pm
Ah that explains it i never played G/S and i haven't been using Bugs that much in R/S to know that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 10, 2006, 06:16:06 pm
Giga drain is the closest thing to a good move and it only has a base of 5PP even if you use a ton of PP ups it only gets like maybe 7PP.
8PP at max. [/nitpick]

the system is 3 more pp per base 5pp after using 3 pp ups or a ppmax

5=8
10=16
15=24

etc.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 11, 2006, 01:57:37 pm
Giga drain is the closest thing to a good move and it only has a base of 5PP even if you use a ton of PP ups it only gets like maybe 7PP.
8PP at max. [/nitpick]

the system is 3 more pp per base 5pp after using 3 pp ups or a ppmax

5=8
10=16
15=24

etc.

Nice find! Giga drain pales in comparison to leafblade. I've used both in PVP.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 11, 2006, 11:25:01 pm
You raised a beedrill?  ::)

Yeah I was trying to see if it was worth putting in agaisnt Pyscic pokemon but I found its duel as a Poison Pokemon ment it got KO'd if you couldn't take the opponent down 1st move so sucks to that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 12, 2006, 02:32:11 pm
Bug pokemon are invariably feeble, save the following:

Sycther
Scizor
Pinsir
Heracross
Ninjask

I would say Shedinja, but there are far to many ways to kill it.

Incidently, Oberic, Magic player?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 12, 2006, 05:17:51 pm
Yeah the only problem is Syther and Pinsir never learn a single bug based attack if they did I'd probably have almost always had one in my party to take care of the Psycic pokemon that were so overpowered in those days. I kind of hope they make a legendary bug pokemon just so they can have some bug pokemon that people see as uber powerful. I think some bugs look cool but they just have no stats and most don't have any moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 12, 2006, 06:52:42 pm
Only Meganium did that with me.
Feraligatr was okay, but a giant polecat with a fire on its back? Meh...

I liked the johto starters.. :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 12, 2006, 08:12:17 pm
I never saw them as anything special did any of them even become duel types at all?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: FoxSpirit on August 13, 2006, 02:10:06 pm
Stop arguing, start watching this  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1x5m06BZxU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbd%2Elegendarypokemon%2Enet%2F

Comment away  ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on August 13, 2006, 03:52:04 pm
Well that looks cool, it has a lot of nice features and additions, plus weird mini-games. Now I have to slow-mo the part where they went through the starters :)

And the worlds and pokemon attacks look awesome.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 13, 2006, 06:05:55 pm
Whoo! ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on August 14, 2006, 11:01:28 am
Is Kwanzaa really a pokemon? I heard that somewhere.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 14, 2006, 11:02:53 am
Is Kwanzaa really a pokemon? I heard that somewhere.

/foreheadslap

It's the new evolution of Jynx. Honest.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 14, 2006, 11:50:56 am
Grrrr! Why oh why must the three starters always be grass, fire and water!?! Show some originality, Pokemon making people!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 14, 2006, 11:55:56 am
Grrrr! Why oh why must the three starters always be grass, fire and water!?! Show some originality, Pokemon making people!
Yep.

They've also released their weak, dime-a-dozen flying type that you find on every route in the game.

*sigh*

I'm becoming less enthusiastic about this game all the time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 14, 2006, 12:33:51 pm
Well, isnt it true that this game will have a way through the gba to let you capture every poke'mon ever created? If nintendo made a huge formula change in this next generation, wouldnt that furthure mess up the balance of the game? I have accepted the fact that flying will always be overpopulated.

R/B/Y had very fast poke'mon
S/G had very high SP At poke'mon
I have no clue about the other versions

Could poke'mon make a shift to more defensive play?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 15, 2006, 12:29:09 am
You'll be able to catch every Pokemon if you own Fire Red, Leaf Green, Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Colosseum, XD, Channel, Ranger, Diamond, Pearl and Battle Revolution.
And possibly even more.  Hopefully they will learn and make them all available in the three new games, but I wouldn't count on it.

Grrrr! Why oh why must the three starters always be grass, fire and water!?! Show some originality, Pokemon making people!
Yep.

They've also released their weak, dime-a-dozen flying type that you find on every route in the game.

*sigh*

I'm becoming less enthusiastic about this game all the time.

I feel pretty much the same now.  I was really excited at first when the games were announced, it looked as if they were going to make these new ones completely different, and we'd be getting something fresh for once.  Now it looks like it's just another rehash, and I have very little interest in buying them.  I'll probably wait for them to lower the price, or release the third version.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 15, 2006, 03:12:02 am
Notice that the new water type is another seal. We now have three seal-like pokemon (not counting their numerous evolutions) if it carries on at this rate one o f the elite 4 will fight with nothing but seal-oids.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 15, 2006, 03:23:00 am
Go seals! Really you think they could have some polar bears and snow foxes or something.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on August 15, 2006, 02:09:01 pm
Snow foxes sound neat.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 15, 2006, 02:49:21 pm
It would also be a good chance to revamp the breeding system. Vulpix+ ice type= Ice fox perhaps?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 15, 2006, 02:52:38 pm
Or a fire penguin.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 15, 2006, 03:09:45 pm
well, that would have to be the spawn of a penguin like creature and a fire type bird... the usual restrictions on breeding would apply, so a bird and a field type wouldnt be able to produce offspring
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 15, 2006, 03:54:21 pm
Well, it could be a bird/field, like Farfetched. Alternatively, it could just be an aquatic/field, like Psyduck.

Both of which are actually ducks, rather than penguins. A fire duck?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 15, 2006, 04:18:43 pm
awesome! It roasts itself... Farfetched even provides its own garnish :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 15, 2006, 04:36:08 pm
awesome! It roasts itself... Farfetched even provides its own garnish :D

Thats just messed up man >:( lol
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 15, 2006, 05:55:31 pm
Actully brings up the point of what do people in the pokemon world seeing pretty much every animal can be sen as a pet as well.

Yum dem pikachu's make good eatin.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 16, 2006, 04:49:58 am
Welcome to KFP, can I take your order?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 16, 2006, 05:22:03 am
Yes I'll have a box of pike nuggets, 6 pidgy wings and a large fries thanks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 16, 2006, 07:26:31 am
Would you like to Snorlax-size that, sir?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 16, 2006, 07:54:07 am
no-no I would rather have 2 ratatta meals ::) for the kids
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 16, 2006, 10:04:35 am
I'll have a fillet o' Magicarp, a squirtle burger and an oddish flavour milkshake
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 16, 2006, 10:05:34 am
Actully brings up the point of what do people in the pokemon world seeing pretty much every animal can be sen as a pet as well.

Yum dem pikachu's make good eatin.
Yeah, I was going to suggest that maybe everyone is a vegetarian in the Pokemon universe, but then they'd still be eating Exeggcutor...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 16, 2006, 10:19:47 am
it would be difficult to farm a plant that was occasionaly caught by kids around 12 years old. Never mind the fact that your lively-hood could walk away.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 16, 2006, 11:23:54 am
Hey, do you think they would go into the pokeballs in meal form too?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 16, 2006, 11:41:42 am
*school bell rings* Its lunch time Go! Chicken and cheese sandwich!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 16, 2006, 05:36:18 pm
Waiter waiter there's a Venonat in my soup.

Also what happens if your meal evolves is that like a free upsize?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 17, 2006, 12:37:55 pm
Waiter waiter there's a Venonat in my soup.

Also what happens if your meal evolves is that like a free upsize?
I think if my fillet of magickarp evolved into a gyarados steak I wouldn't complain  ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 17, 2006, 12:45:28 pm
Incidently, Oberic, Magic player?
yes. just at home though. kitsune rock and the kamigawa block is awesome.. and ravnica.. and mirrodin..... lol..

also, I recently got a copy of firered, it's pretty awesome, I love the Vs. seeker item, YAY..

ok, beedril (level 40 right now) is awesome, i've got one in my team at all times, focus energy + pin missle or twin needle is insane, i've gotten 3 criticals in one attack with fury attack too.. also, it only takes like.. less than a third of it's health off when hit by level 36 (+ or - a couple levels) kadabra psybeams. even though it says super effective.. obviously beedril has high sp def.. yay!.. and my beedril beat gary-dude semi-alone 3 of the battles with him so far.

P.S. mimic sucks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 17, 2006, 12:53:51 pm
it may suck, but is it tasty?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 17, 2006, 01:29:40 pm
aye, Im a magic player as well, but thats a bit off topic isnt it ;)

what poke'mon is the best fire type in your opinion?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 17, 2006, 01:31:37 pm
Char-grilled-charmander, okay I'll stop now
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 17, 2006, 01:32:25 pm
It could take a while to cook a charmander...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: werechicken on August 17, 2006, 01:34:19 pm
nah, it'll cook itself, I think this would make for a very disturbing game....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 17, 2006, 01:42:38 pm
Making an animal cook itself alive would have to be ilegal somonewhere lol.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pokeguy on August 18, 2006, 10:05:28 am
Ya, mimic sucks.

P.s. I'm posting from glacies computer. He is not pulling a Mr. wizard.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on August 21, 2006, 04:33:36 pm
I remember having a poke with Mimic, Metronome, and Mirror Move on it. It was fun to say the least.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 23, 2006, 05:31:15 pm
Ok I'm starting to train 3 pokemon for my latest attempt at Battle tower i was wondering which move combination i should have. So at the moment my team is going to be Flygon, Walrain and Zangoose. Now i more or less have a moveset mapped out for Flygon and Walrain but Zangoose I'm still tyring to decide on I'm thinking about going for Flame thrower, Sunny day, Slash and for a 4th move I'm trying to decide between Solorbeam and Thunderbolt.

Of course with sunnyday I can use Solorbeam with out charging it up though Thunderbolt also is a good move I could also try putting in rain dance and then just using thunder and have the advantage of more accurate moves and also the bonus given to Walrains water attacks. This also brings up the idea of then teaching Flygon Sunnyday and flamethrower possibly then keeping both Solarbeam and Thunder on Zangoose but paying to have to do switch outs to make full use of the moves.

Just wanted to see what people though is the best stratergy or if they no of a better one.

So far Flygon will certainly have Earthquake and Dragon claw and Walrain will almos certainly have Surf and Ice beam its other moves aren't to criticle though. Although seeing it has free space i could give it the rain dance to help make use of Thunder. It does bring up the question of should i bother with the less accurate thunder and rely on raindance to increase the chance of hitting or just let the less powerful but more accurate thunderbolt.

There so many ways I can go with this Just thinking what everyone else thinks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 24, 2006, 06:11:09 am
Don't put Flamethrower or Thunderbolt on Zangoose: look at his special attack stat, and compare that to his regular attack stat. He'll do more damage with Quick Attack.

Try using Return: 102 base damage ain't bad and Zangoose gets STAB on that, plus you can get multiple TM's of it for free! Also, a Swords Dance or two will alow him to OHKO pretty much anything short of Aggron.

Perhaps you could fill out Walrein's other moves with Rest and Toxic? My Milotic got me through most battle with that alone, though it used Recover.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on August 24, 2006, 06:36:27 am
As a bonus equip a sleeping berry to Walrein if it learns rest. Thats all I have for the moment.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 24, 2006, 06:55:18 am
Fair enough I am interested still as last time I played the battle tower I generally had trouble agaisnt water pokemon as I had nothing to combat them very well all I could really do was use the Metagross I had and just send out powerful attacks but still had heaps of trouble Flygon's ground type mad it weak and my previous team's milotic was water which didn't help at all.

This time I got Flygon again as it was good as long as it stayed away from water Walrein should fill out some good water and ice attacks. I most need a 3rd that will fill out as many holes in the team as it can which is why I'm looking into normal pokemon they learn almost any TM making them good to have varied attacks. I have caught about 6 Zangeese and will train the one with the best natural stats. Still if there is a suggestion for a better Pokemon I'd be happy.

I'm tempted to use a Magnaton the only problem is with out a ditto i can't breed any TMs I spend on it on to offspring as they are genderless. Generally all pokemon I train are males for that reason so if I need to teach them TMs I can still retain them by breeding them to others. Only exceptions are super rare's like the starters or resurected ones so i can breed more of that species.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on August 24, 2006, 07:15:28 am
well, you could always spalsh for fire red/ leaf green and get yourself a ditto that way (provided you have access to another GBA through a friend or something)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 24, 2006, 07:16:10 am
If your team is weak against Water, then Lanturn would probably be a good idea, seeing as how, unlike most Electric types, it actually resists Water damage, and with Volt Absorb, its only weaknesses are Ground and Grass. Though it would probably be a good idea to replace Walrein instead of Zangoose, since this would leave your team vulnerable to Grass (unless Flygon has Flamethrower).

Also, doesn't Flygon's Dragon type cancel out his water weakness?  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on August 24, 2006, 07:19:32 am
Maybe a Gardevior? It has a good Sp. att. and I'm pretty sure it can learn the high powered attacks that will fill in the holes in your strategy. Plus it will have Psychic, which if you focus on Sp. att then it will be able to do massive damage to most opp, regardless of type.


(Lanturn is a really good choice as well, it was one of my team that I would play against other players with.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 24, 2006, 05:13:37 pm
I guess I could go back to trying to get a Milotic but I just don't feel like spending for ever sitting in route 119 i think it is trying to find 1 of the 6 squares that its ugly pre evolved form lives in.

Lanturn sounds like a good idea as it could take up the water type it's self. throw in ice beam or something the only thing is there away to get more than 1 ice beam TM other than breeding as they don't let you use bred pokemon in the tower (Which is a massive rip off for my money) I think I could use Blizzard but the move doesn't have as much PP and I think it isn't as accurate as well but can't be sure. I ended up using my Ice beam TM on my Swampert from my origonal team of 6.

If I could breed poke for the tower I'd try and breed it on to a Lanturn as Ice attacks will mostly take care of any grass types I come across anyway.

Still as it stand for now my Flygon will probably have Dragon Claw, Crush, Flamethrower and Earthquake. There is a chance I might take off Crush in favour of Sunny day but only if one of my other 2 end up getting Solor beam.

Actually I just had an idea Lanturn might be worth it just so I can have say surf thunder and rain dance. Just a matter of what the 4th move will be and if I can get that Ice beam that will probably be it. So if I have Flygon and Lanturn I just need a 3rd member and to be honest I'm not in the mood for training a Guardivor as i have had one in my party almost constantly every time I play the game. Still if no one has any other better suggestions.

Oh and I don't know anyone else with a GBA or anything I have a DS and a GBA SP but best I can tell there is no way to connect the 2.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on August 24, 2006, 05:35:07 pm
Aren't Ice Beam TMs available at the Game Corner?  I'm pretty sure they are in Fire Red/Leaf Green at least.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 24, 2006, 05:45:24 pm
Yeah, you can get it for 4000 coins. It's TM13.
Kind of annoying the way they don't tell you what move you get from each one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 24, 2006, 06:09:09 pm
Which store can i buy Ice beam from do you know i don't much feel like flying to each and evey town seeing if they have it for sale?

Well seeing I can buy it any recommendations on which pokemon will compliment my Flygon Lanturn team?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 24, 2006, 08:37:47 pm
Medicham, perhaps?

You can get Ice Beam at the Mauville Game Corner.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 24, 2006, 09:15:09 pm
Ah yes of course I can thats right.

I have been thinking medicham its stats kind of suck a little bit though but with out a better option i might have to go for it. Still its types compliment each other really well if you got good speed Dark pokemon cease to be a problem.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 25, 2006, 06:24:41 am
It might not have the best stats, but its trait, Pure Power, doubles its Attack, so they're actually a lot better than they look.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 25, 2006, 06:34:59 am
So pure power is that just a perminante boost to attack stats?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Genesis on August 25, 2006, 07:39:17 am
It acts on x2 attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 26, 2006, 05:09:48 pm
I'd help ya out with ditto if I could get to ya.. sorry, but, What you talkin' about can't use bred pokemon in the battle tower..? I'm pretty sure I've used them there.... hmm? Am I mistaken?...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 26, 2006, 05:29:20 pm
it's been a while since I visited the battle tower but I'm sure one of the rules is new bred pokemon otherwise I'd have some real uber pokemon. It's something like no bred pokemon and no legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 26, 2006, 05:30:06 pm
I think it's just no legendaries...

EDIT: Actually, you can use the Regis/Latias/Latios, apparently. Here's (http://www.serebii.net/pokemon_advance/battle/restrictions.shtml) a list of what you can't use.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on August 28, 2006, 05:00:28 pm
Hmm, this topic is starting to droop a bit..
http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/pofin.shtml
bread.. weird. very weird, but makes more sense than colored cubes.

Edit: Also, I'm  ";D" that contests are back in.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 29, 2006, 12:30:19 am
Am I the only one that hated the contests?  They were far too random to be any fun.
I do like the new customisation part of the contests, but it's a little disapointing that it's only for the contests, why can't we keep them with funny hats and flowers on their heads?  It would make battling so much more interesting, especially on wi-fi, were a lot of people will be using similiar teams.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on August 29, 2006, 02:16:07 am
Am I the only one that hated the contests?  They were far too random to be any fun.
I do like the new customisation part of the contests, but it's a little disapointing that it's only for the contests, why can't we keep them with funny hats and flowers on their heads?  It would make battling so much more interesting, especially on wi-fi, were a lot of people will be using similiar teams.
Amen to that, just behind the night/day feature as a bad idea
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 29, 2006, 04:53:00 am
I never played G/S so never reallt experianced night and day stuff but it sounds like something thats interesting to me. Conestes I didn't love i didn't hate I just got a ribbon in the hardest of one of the contests got the picture for it and left it at that. I never bothered trying to get them all. Berry Blending was a cool way to pass the time though.

Also I selected the pokemon for my team of 3 to assult the battle tower best thing is also got the Pokrus on my team so training them is going to be so easy that plus macho brace means heaps of stats at each level up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 29, 2006, 08:09:08 am
Am I the only one that hated the contests?  They were far too random to be any fun.
I do like the new customisation part of the contests, but it's a little disapointing that it's only for the contests, why can't we keep them with funny hats and flowers on their heads?  It would make battling so much more interesting, especially on wi-fi, were a lot of people will be using similiar teams.
Do you think? I'd probably cringe every time I saw someone send out a Wigglytuff with a cute lil' bow on its head...  :-\

Amen to that, just behind the night/day feature as a bad idea
No!  >:(
Day/Night was a great idea!

Berry Blending was a cool way to pass the time though.
It was annoying and tedious, I thought. Especially the way you had to use PokeBlocks to prevent Safari Zone pokes from running away. Not that it really did that very well, either.
Quote
HERACROSS is infatuated with the INDIGO POKéBLOCK!
Wild HERACROSS fled!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on August 29, 2006, 12:52:33 pm
I liked the Day/Night feature too.

I never played R/S/E/FR/LG, so I can't say anything about berry blending, but in all honesty, I didn't like the poor chances of the Safari Zone in R/G/B/Y either, so I guess the developers were just having a nostalgia attack with the bad chances no matter what.

Berry Blending itself may or may not have been fun, I wouldn't know, as I never played R/S/E, I'm putting that one as "Your opinion may vary."

(Off topic: One Psych class and I'm already forming this into data... woah.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 30, 2006, 01:27:43 pm
Quote from: Serebii.net
In Continuation to the news yesterday, on further investigation, according to Coronis and kiera2 the scan seems to imply (although it does not actually say it outright, so this is not confirmed) that after you transfer the 6 from your GBA games to DP, you have to go to a nearby Park in the game and hunt them down and capture them with the Park Balls. It is unknown if they will be easier to capture (since many of the Pokemon likely transferred will be legendaries which have an incredibly low capture rate). This is yet to be confirmed but we will keep you aprised on this startling news development
Yay! Now we get to try and catch our Level 100 Mewtwos and Rayquazas (who will most likely flee after the first ball or two) on full HP with Safari Balls! Great idea, Game Freak!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on August 30, 2006, 04:10:32 pm
The chance of succsess ceaching a metwo with a parkball while at full hp is roughly the same number as the total mass of a proton, or 0.000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 001 672 62% you could also consider it
1.627 62 X 10 to the 27th power. But first you have to find the mewtwo! Happy Hunting!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Ketro Fett on August 30, 2006, 04:38:02 pm
We should all get NetBattle and have a tournament.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 30, 2006, 05:43:14 pm
We should all get NetBattle and have a tournament.
I actually got NetBattle just the other day. Haven't actually built a team I'm happy with yet, though.

For those who don't know, Pokemon NetBattle (http://www.pokerealm.net/netbattle/).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Ketro Fett on September 03, 2006, 09:14:08 pm
What kind of team are you using?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on September 20, 2006, 01:22:45 pm
Hmm, yes the games are right on. The TV series is worthless. As is the whole 'you play as a pokemon' concept. Was anyone else completely creeped out by the talking pokemon in that new series?

And while I'm here, could someone clarify what exactly the Macho Brace does?
And what is a Pokrus?
I've never done the battle tower thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 20, 2006, 03:48:50 pm
Ah-ha!

Technical explanation time!

Each pokemon, in battle, accumulates points, known as "Effort Values," depending on the opposition. There are Effort Values for each stat that a pokemon has, and battling different opponents grants varying amounts of EV's to a particular stat (for instant, battling a Wigglytuff gives 4 HP EV's.) Now, when your pokemon levels up after accumulating EV's, they are translated into increases in stats (on top of the base increases per level for that pokemon), at a rate of (as I recall) 4 EVs = 1 stat point. There is a limit to the number of EV's that can be obtained; this is the same for all pokemon.

This explains why pokemon raised by the player are stronger than ones caught in the wild, or raised in Daycare (as wild pokemon start with no EV's, and Daycare does not grant EV's). It also allows a player to optimise his pokemons statistics by raising it fighting enemies that grant EVs for that statistics that he wants to raise.

Now, the Macho Brace doubles the rate at which EV's are earned, at the cost of reducing you pokemon's effective speed while it has it equipped. Pokerus is a "disease" that also doubles the rate at which EV's are earned, so the two can be combined to max out a pokemon's EV's very quickly. Pokerus can be caught by fighting wild pokemon on a specific route, and spreads to the other pokemon in your party.

THUS! The Macho Brace increases the stats you gain at level up, until the girl next to the Energy Guru in Slateport gives you the Effort Ribbon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 20, 2006, 07:44:28 pm
I had Macho brace and Pok'rus going when training most of my pokemon for my current battle tower assult I have to admit Poke'rus didn't seem to be effective as the pokemon i trained the most with the virus took the longest to max out but it's doesn't matter with macho brace on you max your EV's long before level 50. Which is perfect for battle tower I'm currently sitting on 21 wins in a row if memory serves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 26, 2006, 10:05:02 am
So it's hit the fan now. Serebii has his hands on the game and is dissecting it right now.

Tons of new info:
http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
and
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=152027
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 26, 2006, 10:21:43 am
Woah, this one act from serebii almost entirely makes up for his past mistakes.  He even used spoiler tags, for a nice change.
The Penguin starter evolves into a Water/Steel type.  Very cool.   ;D

A little disapointed that the fire one is another fire/fighting though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 26, 2006, 10:30:54 am
A little disapointed that the fire one is another fire/fighting though.
Yeah.. But the fact that it learns Slack Off (and Taunt) means that it's hardly going to be an inferior Blaziken.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 26, 2006, 10:46:24 am
(http://www.pokebeach.com/news/0906/waterevo.jpg)

That pwns so much.  :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on September 26, 2006, 12:04:41 pm
Naetle's final evo is not disappointing. <3 Grass/Ground, and it's an anklyotortoise!  And it has an ecosystem growing on its back.  Whoooo...the penguin's final is pure awesome, too.  Water/Steel.  Hikozaru...eh, it got the shaft, but it's not BAD.  Really disappointed that it's also a Fire/Fighting...though I suppose this means the anime will now have to have a battle between Hikozaru's final form and Blaziken.

They'd better, anyway.  That alone could get me to watch, if only for one episode.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 26, 2006, 01:05:36 pm
I take back what I said about Serebii.  It's great that he's putting up all this information, but he's still acting like a jealous prick whenever anyone else puts up information that he doesn't have.  It would be far easier to respect this guys site, if he wasn't such a tool.

"Wah, wah, I haven't gotten that far in the game yet, that site must have made it up!!1"

He's actually going around other Pokemon sites forums, whining like this.    ::)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 26, 2006, 01:54:29 pm
Menu sprites of every new Pokemon. (http://www.filb.de/?option=news&aktion=komm&ID=460)

(Website is hideously slow, though...  :-\)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 26, 2006, 10:09:08 pm
Hmm water/steel that would make it neutral to fire attacks. Also Grass/ground would make it neutral to water attacks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 27, 2006, 06:08:44 am
I take back what I said about Serebii.  It's great that he's putting up all this information, but he's still acting like a jealous prick whenever anyone else puts up information that he doesn't have.  It would be far easier to respect this guys site, if he wasn't such a tool.

"Wah, wah, I haven't gotten that far in the game yet, that site must have made it up!!1"

He's actually going around other Pokemon sites forums, whining like this.    ::)
Hahaha
Quote from: Serebii
Gonna be starting back on with this later this morning. Unfortunately I do have University so that will stop me doing too much this morning

I do have to have a rant though;

I am far from amused about the sites that are using the screenshots that I captured from my game without credit *coughPokeJungle&TPcough* not ot mention those crediting a certain other site for information they blatently got off here. (e.g. Huge thanks to _____ when the info came directly from us)

I'm all for the free sharing of information, but credit where credit is due, especially in regards to pictures. Jeez

And then, theres the people on other forums insulting me because I am not at a certain part because there are others rushing ahead. Seriously get over yourselves. I am one man, with Coronis it's two and we work semi-together, but what you fail to realise is, the game isnt quick short routes between each town like RBYGSCRSE, its actually really really big. I'm providing in depth stuff here, not just "ZOMG I just battled Lucario rofflecopter"

But I digress

Got some bad news though, my mum has to take the camera today so I may not be able to get some good shots (Lets see you gits have pictures now). Going to try with my phone but it could be a bit blurry, will prolly redo the shots thursday.

Oh, just entered the town with the 3rd gym. Gonna do some training and then have a go at it, will keep you aprised but as I said, I do have University this morning
Pokemon: Serious Business!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on September 27, 2006, 07:32:12 am
I know BM, I noticed that too. I'm also surprised to find him in university and whining like that.

Then again, a lot of us first-geners are in it now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 27, 2006, 01:22:39 pm
He is a super-nerd... Although playing pokemon in Japanese is enough to make you a super-nerd...

What could be nerdier than a super-nerd?  Ultranerd? Or has he gone all the way around and become stupid?

Also: OMGWTF Poison/fighting frog. Awesome. This might be the first time that I pick the Grass starter, since everyone is going to go for the damn penguin.

And ol' Ankylotortoise is going to learn earthquake.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 27, 2006, 01:32:37 pm
He is a super-nerd... Although playing pokemon in Japanese is enough to make you a super-nerd...

What could be nerdier than a super-nerd?  Ultranerd? Or has he gone all the way around and become stupid?

Also: OMGWTF Poison/fighting frog. Awesome. This might be the first time that I pick the Grass starter, since everyone is going to go for the damn penguin.

And ol' Ankylotortoise is going to learn earthquake.
Apparently there's some ridiculously broken, uber-legendary Normal type with 120 base stats across the board... (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/6974/493lq6.gif)

Scary.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 27, 2006, 02:21:14 pm
Very scary indeed.  This is the first time we'll be able to play Pokemon online, battling against other people, and for some reason they decide to throw in a super-uber Pokemon, with insane stats, and make it a normal type, so it can learn every single move?  What exactly are they thinking?  This thing just screams "broken".

In other news.  Don't you just love Lucario's pre-evo?  I'm so glad he's not a legendary.
(http://pokejungle.paulhq.com/news/data/upimages/nitsukunemu.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 27, 2006, 03:44:34 pm
Doesn't Mew have 100 stats all across the board, and can learn every single move?

And is it odd that that uberlegend sprite reminds me of Absol?

We'll probably get "No legends" options for online battles, so it'll turn out okay.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 27, 2006, 09:19:01 pm
I'm sure there will be more no legends options in any case it just makes fighting types even better. Train the attack stats like crazy and go to town.

In other news been having fun in battle tower in Ruby although I have the worst luck sometimes. Ludico and swampert also cause me trouble as i don't have anything thats super effective and they have good stats. that evolved Wiscash (what ever its called) which has same elements of Swampert is the same but the stats aren't as good so not too bad. Everything else I come up agaisnt hasn't caused too much trouble thank god for toxic it saved my arse so many times with hard to put down pokes.

If anyone has a better stratergy than sending in medicham toxic then clam mind then psycic would be a help as i don't always have enough time to do all that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 28, 2006, 06:22:53 am
But it'll have 120 speed, and thus outpace pretty much everything to the OHKO.

I'm more interested in apparent Dragon-ghost badass, though, (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/491.png).

Is it just me, or does (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/475.png) look like an alternate evolution of Gardevoir? Seems like a lot of pokemon are getting evolutions: Electabuzz (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/466.png), Magmar (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/467.png), Tangela (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/465.png), Lickitung (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/463.png)...

And IS THIS FINALLY THE GRASS-TYPE EVEELUTION? (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/470.png)

DUN DUN DUN!

Also this one looks like an eevelution: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/471.png)

Thanks for postin' that list of sprites. It'll keep me occupied for hours. I mean, now I know that the badass frog evolves: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/454.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 28, 2006, 06:37:02 am
Also the speacial ability of this legendary normal type might balance it out some as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 28, 2006, 08:22:55 am
And IS THIS FINALLY THE GRASS-TYPE EVEELUTION? (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/470.png)

DUN DUN DUN!

Also this one looks like an eevelution: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/471.png)

Thanks for postin' that list of sprites. It'll keep me occupied for hours. I mean, now I know that the badass frog evolves: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/454.png)
Spoiler: The new Eeveelutions look like crap. :(

(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/470/727regiimagev1pa4.png)

EDIT: The Steel/Fire thing in the top left looks pretty awesome. Level 70, too. Could it be the Mewtwo/Rayquaza of D/P?

I'm sure there will be more no legends options in any case it just makes fighting types even better. Train the attack stats like crazy and go to town.

In other news been having fun in battle tower in Ruby although I have the worst luck sometimes. Ludico and swampert also cause me trouble as i don't have anything thats super effective and they have good stats. that evolved Wiscash (what ever its called) which has same elements of Swampert is the same but the stats aren't as good so not too bad. Everything else I come up agaisnt hasn't caused too much trouble thank god for toxic it saved my arse so many times with hard to put down pokes.

If anyone has a better stratergy than sending in medicham toxic then clam mind then psycic would be a help as i don't always have enough time to do all that.
You're using Toxic, Calm Mind and Psychic on Medicham? That's kind of wasting its trait. I'd advise you use physical moves instead of using him as a special attacker.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 28, 2006, 08:39:38 am
The Eeveelutions are pretty disapointing, but I was never all that fond of Eevee to begin with, I thought most of his evolutions were pretty bland and ugly.  There also seems to be far too many legendaries.  What's going on with that pink/yellow thing and the Metagross look-a-like?  These guys just seem unnecesary, not to mention *another* Regi.

However, I do really like the new Aipom, Magneton, Porygon, Murkrow, Misdrevous, etc.  Most of the new evolutions of the old guys are really cool, I can't wait to see Magmar.  I'm pretty happy with the game so far.  It seemed like things were only getting worse and worse, I was extremely disapointed when R/S came out, not just because of the poor Pokemon designs, but the region itself was pretty horrible, but Diamond/Pearl seem to be a huge improvement.  They just need to calm down with the Legendaries.

Oh, and also, there only seems to be 150 Pokemon in the game.  Which means anyone who doesn't have the older GBA games is going to be missing out on a lot, including a lot of the new evolutions.  Things like Electabuzz are not in the game at all, dispite him now evolving.  Got to wonder if that's such a good idea.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 28, 2006, 08:44:41 am
The Eeveelutions are pretty disapointing, but I was never all that fond of Eevee to begin with, I thought most of his evolutions were pretty bland and ugly.  There also seems to be far too many legendaries.  What's going on with that pink/yellow thing and the Metagross look-a-like?  These guys just seem unnecesary, not to mention *another* Regi.

However, I do really like the new Aipom, Magneton, Porygon, Murkrow, Misdrevous, etc.  Most of the new evolutions of the old guys are really cool, I can't wait to see Magmar.  I'm pretty happy with the game so far.  It seemed like things were only getting worse and worse, I was extremely disapointed when R/S came out, not just because of the poor Pokemon designs, but the region itself was pretty horrible, but Diamond/Pearl seem to be a huge improvement.  They just need to calm down with the Legendaries.

Oh, and also, there only seems to be 150 Pokemon in the game.  Which means anyone who doesn't have the older GBA games is going to be missing out on a lot, including a lot of the new evolutions.  Things like Electabuzz are not in the game at all, dispite him now evolving.  Got to wonder if that's such a good idea.
It shouldn't be too bad, what with wi-fi trading and all. But 150 DOES seem a bit low. It is the lowest Dex count yet, along with RBY...

And I did hear that Shinou is the ONLY region you can explore in D/P. So no Sevii Islands equivalent, I guess. Hmm...  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 28, 2006, 08:52:01 am
I actually completely forgot about wi-fi trading.  I was thinking along the lines of the low dex count ruining the game for new fans, because they wouldn't be able to get half the Pokemon, but thanks to wi-fi, I guess it shouldn't be too much of a problem to find specific Pokemon you need.

And I don't have a problem with the game world, Shinou is huge it has far more towns, cities and places to explore than the other games, and the routes between them are a lot bigger as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on September 28, 2006, 09:32:21 am
Im torn between looking at all the new Pokemon, and from that choose a future team to train as I progress through the game or ignore the news so it is mostly new. I managed to ruin R/S by knowing practically everything bout it through the internet. Racing through Red on Christmas day, trying to beat my brother to the next badge while discovering all the new pokemon is one of my fondest gaming memories
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 28, 2006, 10:12:52 am
And IS THIS FINALLY THE GRASS-TYPE EVEELUTION? (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/470.png)

DUN DUN DUN!

Also this one looks like an eevelution: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/471.png)

Thanks for postin' that list of sprites. It'll keep me occupied for hours. I mean, now I know that the badass frog evolves: (http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/icons/454.png)
Spoiler: The new Eeveelutions look like crap. :(

EDIT: The Steel/Fire thing in the top left looks pretty awesome. Level 70, too. Could it be the Mewtwo/Rayquaza of D/P?

Middle right: an evolution of Regirock? Also Magneton.

Well, all of the eevelutions are pretty solid pokemon. I'm sure that these Ice and Grass-type ones will be useful somewhere, despite having weaker types than the rest.

The problem is that I'd need to buy Leaf/Fire/Green/Red to get a lot of these now evolutions, which makes me sad. Unless the Wii game'll let me get them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 28, 2006, 08:20:54 pm
You're using Toxic, Calm Mind and Psychic on Medicham? That's kind of wasting its trait. I'd advise you use physical moves instead of using him as a special attacker.

Yeah i thinking i might get rid of calm mind as i don't use it too much although I'm not sure what to put in it's place obviously something that is a good physical attack. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 29, 2006, 10:44:31 am
I actually completely forgot about wi-fi trading.  I was thinking along the lines of the low dex count ruining the game for new fans, because they wouldn't be able to get half the Pokemon, but thanks to wi-fi, I guess it shouldn't be too much of a problem to find specific Pokemon you need.
The problem is that I'd need to buy Leaf/Fire/Green/Red to get a lot of these now evolutions, which makes me sad. Unless the Wii game'll let me get them.
Apparently, a bunch of wild, non-Shinou Pokemon do indeed become available (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=152027&page=6#113) after obtaining the National Dex, ala FireRed/LeafGreen.

Yeah i thinking i might get rid of calm mind as i don't use it too much although I'm not sure what to put in it's place obviously something that is a good physical attack. Any suggestions?
Brick Break, Shadow Ball and/or Return would be good.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 29, 2006, 10:55:39 am
Ooh, neat.

Meditite can't get Earthquake or Rock Slide, can it? Rock slide is surprisingly handy for beating on flyers.

Brick Break would do the most damage out of those three, factoring in STAB from being Fighting. But Return would do only a little less, and Shadow Ball is just great stuff.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Sub on September 29, 2006, 04:41:16 pm
I just read the IGN preview of this game (http://ds.ign.com/objects/707/707323.html) and I have to say, I'm buying it.  I haven't played a Pokemon game since Red / Blue, but the idea of playing online is just too cool to pass up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on September 29, 2006, 04:55:29 pm
That ten-year retrospective brought back a lot of memories.

[Flashback]"But what does String Shot do?"[/flashback]

I've come a long way, baby.

[Flashside]"Each pokemon, in battle, accumulates points, known as "Effort Values," depending on the opposition. There are Effort Values for each stat that a pokemon has, and battling different opponents grants varying amounts of EV's to a particular stat (for instant, battling a Wigglytuff gives 4 HP EV's.) Now, when your pokemon levels up after accumulating EV's, they are translated into increases in stats (on top of the base increases per level for that pokemon), at a rate of (as I recall) 4 EVs = 1 stat point. There is a limit to the number of EV's that can be obtained; this is the same for all pokemon."[/flashside]

I wonder what the future will hold?

[Flashforward]"I am playing Pokemon Pearl."[/flashforward]
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on September 29, 2006, 07:57:04 pm
Flashpresent-

I am playing pokemon red rescue force. It's da SHIZZLE!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 29, 2006, 11:05:11 pm
Ooh, neat.

Meditite can't get Earthquake or Rock Slide, can it? Rock slide is surprisingly handy for beating on flyers.

Brick Break would do the most damage out of those three, factoring in STAB from being Fighting. But Return would do only a little less, and Shadow Ball is just great stuff.

I have a Flygon who knows Earthquake already Rockslide might be an idea but seeing it is a fighting type I don't want to stick it in agaisnt flying types, plus my Lanturn has thundershock plenty of sp-atk points and flying types tend to have crap sp-def so no problem there. Medicham already knows Brick break and I use it often. Is Shadow ball Dark or Ghost? Either way it's a special move and therefore not taking advatage of its pure power ability.

Here is my team you can work out what holes need to be filled.
Flygon (Levitate): Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Earthquake.
Lanturn (Volt Absorb): Ice Beam, Rain Dance, Thunderbolt, Surf.
Medicham (Pure power): Psycic, Calm Mind, Toxic, Brickbreak.

Currently my best winning streak is 43 in a row so it's pretty good the only pokemon that give me trouble are Swampert and Ludico. Occasionally a female Crowbat if it's set up with confuse ray and attact can mess me up but often I can get around it as I can use either thunderbolt or psycic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on September 30, 2006, 10:30:13 am
Shadow Ball is Ghost, and Ghost is a physical damage type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on September 30, 2006, 12:08:32 pm
Ooh, neat.

Meditite can't get Earthquake or Rock Slide, can it? Rock slide is surprisingly handy for beating on flyers.

Brick Break would do the most damage out of those three, factoring in STAB from being Fighting. But Return would do only a little less, and Shadow Ball is just great stuff.

I have a Flygon who knows Earthquake already Rockslide might be an idea but seeing it is a fighting type I don't want to stick it in agaisnt flying types, plus my Lanturn has thundershock plenty of sp-atk points and flying types tend to have crap sp-def so no problem there. Medicham already knows Brick break and I use it often. Is Shadow ball Dark or Ghost? Either way it's a special move and therefore not taking advatage of its pure power ability.

Here is my team you can work out what holes need to be filled.
Flygon (Levitate): Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Crunch, Earthquake.
Lanturn (Volt Absorb): Ice Beam, Rain Dance, Thunderbolt, Surf.
Medicham (Pure power): Psycic, Calm Mind, Toxic, Brickbreak.

Currently my best winning streak is 43 in a row so it's pretty good the only pokemon that give me trouble are Swampert and Ludico. Occasionally a female Crowbat if it's set up with confuse ray and attact can mess me up but often I can get around it as I can use either thunderbolt or psycic.
If your going to have Rain Dance on Lanturn, why not have Thunder? It's 100% accurate with Rain Dance.

In R/S I had the same predicament between a Lanturn with Rain Dance and Thunder, and one with Thunderbolt and Thunder Wave, so I ended up with both (Lv 100), one for 1v1 and one for 2v2
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 01, 2006, 02:26:35 am
I considared putting thunder on Lanturn but in the end I figured it wasn't worth using the extra move to cause rain dance for thunder and Thunder is too inaccurate to use on it's own. Thunderbolt does plenty of damage on it's own often if it requires to thunderbolts to bring an enemy down thunder isn't going to help much it will take 2 moves if I use rain dance 1st anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on October 01, 2006, 11:33:45 am
My random sarcastic thought of the day.

I was reading Serebii's Gym Leader page, which has the address http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/gymleaders.shtml.

While Reading... Something caught my anime-freak-ish attention, Specifically...

#1 - Hyouta - Kurogane City

First thought: Holy ****! Where's my Sakura City, Syaoran City, Fay City, and Mokona City?

Second thought: Wait, I didn't play Ruby, there may well be a Sakura City since all were named after flowers.

Third Thought: Meh, Forget it. The cities are probably named after something I can't think of. Samurai? Ninja? Colors? Kinds of Metal?

Yeah, that was my random thought of the day.

Edit: Yes, my Anime-freak self is aware that Kurogane is commonly used in Manga, so no teasing. I can recall one other instance of Kurogane Somewhere, and I think I've seen it three or four other times. The one time I can remember is Pacemaker: Kurogane, a story very similar to Ruroni Kenshin With Less boobs (YAY!) and more Guns.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 01, 2006, 05:04:41 pm
My random sarcastic thought of the day.

I was reading Serebii's Gym Leader page, which has the address http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/gymleaders.shtml.

While Reading... Something caught my anime-freak-ish attention, Specifically...

#1 - Hyouta - Kurogane City

First thought: Holy ****! Where's my Sakura City, Syaoran City, Fay City, and Mokona City?

Second thought: Wait, I didn't play Ruby, there may well be a Sakura City since all were named after flowers.

Third Thought: Meh, Forget it. The cities are probably named after something I can't think of. Samurai? Ninja? Colors? Kinds of Metal?

Yeah, that was my random thought of the day.

Edit: Yes, my Anime-freak self is aware that Kurogane is commonly used in Manga, so no teasing. I can recall one other instance of Kurogane Somewhere, and I think I've seen it three or four other times. The one time I can remember is Pacemaker: Kurogane, a story very similar to Ruroni Kenshin With Less boobs (YAY!) and more Guns.
Come again?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 01, 2006, 05:28:22 pm
I finally found someone i can battle my pokemon agaisnt my cousin after years of saying he didn't like pokemon fianlly got it. Well he said he wasn't interested in it and yesterday i see him and he has Pokemon Ruby Poke Saphire and Pokemon Leaf green. 0_o

Anyway i saw his team despire the fact he has a Blazikan more than 10 levels higher than anything i got the fact he hasn't trained any other pokemon to any decent level means i can tak him easy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 02, 2006, 06:27:46 am
My random sarcastic thought of the day.

I was reading Serebii's Gym Leader page, which has the address http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/gymleaders.shtml.

While Reading... Something caught my anime-freak-ish attention, Specifically...

#1 - Hyouta - Kurogane City

First thought: Holy ****! Where's my Sakura City, Syaoran City, Fay City, and Mokona City?

Second thought: Wait, I didn't play Ruby, there may well be a Sakura City since all were named after flowers.

Third Thought: Meh, Forget it. The cities are probably named after something I can't think of. Samurai? Ninja? Colors? Kinds of Metal?

Yeah, that was my random thought of the day.

Edit: Yes, my Anime-freak self is aware that Kurogane is commonly used in Manga, so no teasing. I can recall one other instance of Kurogane Somewhere, and I think I've seen it three or four other times. The one time I can remember is Pacemaker: Kurogane, a story very similar to Ruroni Kenshin With Less boobs (YAY!) and more Guns.

Another pointless anime thought.
The third Gym Leader is a small, pink haird girl, named Sumomo.  Chobits anyone?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 02, 2006, 09:54:17 am
I finally found someone i can battle my pokemon agaisnt my cousin after years of saying he didn't like pokemon fianlly got it. Well he said he wasn't interested in it and yesterday i see him and he has Pokemon Ruby Poke Saphire and Pokemon Leaf green. 0_o

Anyway i saw his team despire the fact he has a Blazikan more than 10 levels higher than anything i got the fact he hasn't trained any other pokemon to any decent level means i can tak him easy.

Ah, the classic failing of new trainers.

They squeak while you walk on them.  ;)

Have you considered switching Rain Dance out for something else? If it isn't part of your strategy, you might do better with a different move.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: lolasan on October 02, 2006, 10:26:12 am
Wow... maybe this theme is CLAMP Characters.

Okay, That was my sarcastic thought of the day.

Unfortunately, when I Wiki Kurogane, it pulls up said time-space-travelling ninja with no disambiguation page, so I can not get an accurate count of how often "Black Steel" appears in Anime and Manga.

Edit: Here's my previous post simplified.

1. First Gym Town's name is Kurogane
2. Random Association brought up my favorite Anime. And I demanded a gym town for the other characters.
3. Then I decided I need some more understanding of Japanese Literature to try and figure out the theme.
4. I stated I was aware that Kurogane is overused as several items from name of show to name of character to name of sword or gun in Anime and Manga, using the example of a Meiji-era manga called Pacemaker: Kurogane. Then I got random and compared it to RK.

There.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 02, 2006, 06:25:31 pm
I finally found someone i can battle my pokemon agaisnt my cousin after years of saying he didn't like pokemon fianlly got it. Well he said he wasn't interested in it and yesterday i see him and he has Pokemon Ruby Poke Saphire and Pokemon Leaf green. 0_o

Anyway i saw his team despire the fact he has a Blazikan more than 10 levels higher than anything i got the fact he hasn't trained any other pokemon to any decent level means i can tak him easy.

Ah, the classic failing of new trainers.

They squeak while you walk on them.  ;)

Have you considered switching Rain Dance out for something else? If it isn't part of your strategy, you might do better with a different move.

I still use rain dance in conjuction with Surf after just to boost it agasint enemies with massive sp defence it works as a good way to take alot of enemies down the only problem is Lanturn is a very slow poke so often takes damage it's self before dishing it out. Still I'm up to a winning streak of 49 hopefully I can get number 50 on the train ride home today.

Like I said there aren't many holes in my team only Ludico, Swampert and Wishcash slip through occasionlly a well raised female crobat will give me trouble but both Medicham and Lanturn are strong agaisnt it. I just have to take i down fast. This morning I was up agaisnt one that was spaming double team although all it served to do was make it take longer to take it out the fact it was a male Crobat ment its attract as useless on my team as well.

For the record i made it to 54 in a row before the luckiest Breloom in history desimated my team.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 04, 2006, 09:31:56 pm
Just thought I'd post this in case it hadn't been mentioned:

Pokemon D/P sold over 1.5 million units in five days.

Dear god.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 05, 2006, 12:28:00 am
I don't think it's fair to count that as Japan alone though, as most of the copies probably went to the US/Europe.
Almost everyone I know with any interest in these games has imported it.  I don't really see the point of trying to play through an RPG in Japanese, then buying it again in English later on..   :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 05, 2006, 06:55:14 am
I don't really see the point of trying to play through an RPG in Japanese, then buying it again in English later on..   :-\
Why not? It's not as if they're going to miss much in the way of plot...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 05, 2006, 07:29:03 am
I don't think it's fair to count that as Japan alone though, as most of the copies probably went to the US/Europe.
Almost everyone I know with any interest in these games has imported it.  I don't really see the point of trying to play through an RPG in Japanese, then buying it again in English later on..   :-\

Just a note on this subject: It beat the previous Pokemon games in launch sales by ~100,000 units. I seriously doubt importing makes up for that many of its sales.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 05, 2006, 12:13:44 pm
Just thought I'd post this in case it hadn't been mentioned:

Pokemon D/P sold over 1.5 million units in five days.

Dear god.

No way is PSP coming back from this.

No ****ing way.

By the by, does anyone know definitively if DS/GBA games are compatable across regions? My UK copy of Advance Wars doesn't send the map to my US copy of Advance wars DS, but I don't know if this is just a quirk with Advance Wars, or if it'll apply to pokémon as well. I have a US copy of Pokémon Sapphire and UK DS, if the DS's region makes any difference. I need to know whether I have to import an American copy of Pokémon Pearl in order to upload my pokémon, or if I can wait for the UK release.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on October 05, 2006, 12:29:15 pm
PSP is doomed. I agree /lurk.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 05, 2006, 12:43:09 pm
It has been reported that you CAN'T transfer Pokemon from the US 3rd generation games to the Japanese Diamond/Pearl.

Take from that what you will.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 05, 2006, 02:43:52 pm
Probably the same for UK version.

Oh, shucks, I'll just have to import it from America and get it before everyone else, then.

Edit: Although, Japanese versions of Pokémon never were compatable with US versions, but UK ones always are. Well, Advance Wars was enough confirmation for me, I'll definitely import.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Doomsday on October 05, 2006, 08:33:46 pm
And I thought I was said and pathetic for still following the serious. ;) Not really.

But is it just me or is the Electabuzz evolution ugly as hell?

Besides that some of this game looks interesting, the only thing I see missing is a really good Dragon Type. There haven't been that many good Dragon types since Dragonite and Charizard (in my opinion), well except maybe Flygon but he looks like an Insect more then looking like a Dragon. They need another Dratini-type lineage in the game. Although I rarely used Dragonite for any battles, I almost always made sure I had one in my PokeBox.

http://www.filb.de/?option=news&aktion=komm&ID=460 and then look at the one named Bippa <-- Nintendo/Game Freak's attempt to replace the crappy Zigzagoon with an equally crappy Racoon based pokemon?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fade2gray on October 05, 2006, 09:15:23 pm
Sorry if this was already said recently, but I didn't feel like digging through the thread.
Any more word on what the US and Eurpean release dates will be?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 05, 2006, 11:37:07 pm

Besides that some of this game looks interesting, the only thing I see missing is a really good Dragon Type. There haven't been that many good Dragon types since Dragonite and Charizard (in my opinion), well except maybe Flygon but he looks like an Insect more then looking like a Dragon. They need another Dratini-type lineage in the game. Although I rarely used Dragonite for any battles, I almost always made sure I had one in my PokeBox.


Ok first of all Charizard is a Fire/flying type. Second whats wrong with Bagon-Shellgon-Salamance?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 06, 2006, 12:34:26 am
Don't forget Kingdra.

And they have a new Ground/Dragon in D/P, with the same stat total as Dragonite/Salamence.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 06, 2006, 03:23:05 am
Yeah Kingdra's water type negates its weakness to ice if that doesn't make it kick arse I don't know what does.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 06, 2006, 04:19:43 am
Kingdra's Dragon type negates its weaknesses to electric and grass-type attacks too.

...

Why the hell don't I have a Kingdra?

And Bippa looks like a beaver, not a racoon: it evolves into a normal/water type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 06, 2006, 05:06:24 am
It's only weakness is to other dragon attacks. Basically make sure you have Dragon claw on you. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 06, 2006, 06:23:33 am
And I thought I was said and pathetic for still following the serious. ;) Not really.

But is it just me or is the Electabuzz evolution ugly as hell?

Besides that some of this game looks interesting, the only thing I see missing is a really good Dragon Type. There haven't been that many good Dragon types since Dragonite and Charizard (in my opinion), well except maybe Flygon but he looks like an Insect more then looking like a Dragon. They need another Dratini-type lineage in the game. Although I rarely used Dragonite for any battles, I almost always made sure I had one in my PokeBox.

http://www.filb.de/?option=news&aktion=komm&ID=460 and then look at the one named Bippa <-- Nintendo/Game Freak's attempt to replace the crappy Zigzagoon with an equally crappy Racoon based pokemon?

I really like Electabuzz' evolution, and most of the old Pokemons new evolutions, they've helped made a lot of the old crappy Pokemon really good.  Magmars evolution on the otherhand looks terrible, even if they've made him one of the best fire Pokemon in the game, why the hell did he turn in to a large fat man?

And in my opinion there are already plenty of Dragon types, if anything too many.  Kingdra and Altaria really don't look like Dragons at all, and only seemed to get the type for the sake of it.  Salamance and Flygon are really good though, and the new Shark/Dragon thing looks like it'll be pretty good.  Dragons are supposed to be rare, and extremely powerful, if they make too many, it just kind of ruins the whole thing.

What they really need is more fire types.   Diamond and Pearl only introduce three new ones.  The starter, a legendary, and Magmars evolution.  Yet they add in a good amount of new water and bug types to the already bloated list of those types.

Sorry if this was already said recently, but I didn't feel like digging through the thread.
Any more word on what the US and Eurpean release dates will be?

No word yet, there's been rumours that the US release date will be November, but that seems extremely unlikely.
Probably around February/March next year for the US, and then December 2010 for Europe.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 06, 2006, 08:12:25 am

Sorry if this was already said recently, but I didn't feel like digging through the thread.
Any more word on what the US and Eurpean release dates will be?

No word yet, there's been rumours that the US release date will be November, but that seems extremely unlikely.
Probably around February/March next year for the US, and then December 3010 for Europe.

Fixed.

As for Bug types, well, they need to add lots of those, so that, perhaps, one day, they might make one that's good*. Fire types are usually prety decent, ever since Ninetales and Arcanine of the Red/Blue days.



*Yeah, yeah, Scyther, Heracross and Pinsir are desperate to prove me wrong, I know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 06, 2006, 08:27:04 am
I really like Electabuzz' evolution, and most of the old Pokemons new evolutions, they've helped made a lot of the old crappy Pokemon really good.  Magmars evolution on the otherhand looks terrible, even if they've made him one of the best fire Pokemon in the game, why the hell did he turn in to a large fat man?
I think it looks more like a giant baby.

Lickitung's evo, on the other hand...
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2992/463mkf3.png)

Also, why the Hell do Rhydon and Magneton get evolutions?
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5990/462yv0.png) (http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3509/464mql0.png)
They're completely unnecessary. I mean, Magneton and Rhydon were both already powerful. Now they're just powerful and ugly.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 06, 2006, 09:36:08 am
(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5990/462yv0.png)

Plan P from outer space!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fade2gray on October 06, 2006, 02:59:59 pm
Maybe they're just trying to give Spore a run for its money? :P
Spore anounces that they've got a cool evolution game with spaceships so Pokemon responds by evolving one of their Pokemon INTO a spaceship. :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 07, 2006, 04:56:16 am
You just know that they're going to make a movie out of that, somehow.

Sidenote: How could I have played Pokémon Sapphire for 220 hours and not yet caught Rayquaza? This has been rectified now, at least.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on October 07, 2006, 01:54:39 pm
You just know that they're going to make a movie out of that, somehow.

Sidenote: How could I have played Pokémon Sapphire for 220 hours and not yet caught Rayquaza? This has been rectified now, at least.
I had the same thing with Latias, I had it on 1hp and asleep yet I tried for weeks to catch the buggar but to no avail, then after a break of about a year I went back to play it and on my second attempt, with the first ball it stayed in, mocking me about the hours I wasted previously when this time it wentin almost voluntarily
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 07, 2006, 07:23:34 pm
The Latias/os are easy to catch Mean look and arena trap then spend ages doign anything you can to make the battle go on for as long as you can accuracy lowering attack parlysing oppenents and then jsut things like howl or leer or anything that alters stats wait until the oppentent runs out of PP and starts using struggle when it get low throw a timer ball. Tada works with every legendary.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 08, 2006, 03:33:39 am
The Latias/os are easy to catch Mean look and arena trap then spend ages doign anything you can to make the battle go on for as long as you can accuracy lowering attack parlysing oppenents and then jsut things like howl or leer or anything that alters stats wait until the oppentent runs out of PP and starts using struggle when it get low throw a timer ball. Tada works with every legendary.

Except Rayquaza, which kills itself by using Outrage and becoming confused.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 08, 2006, 05:47:19 am
The Latias/os are easy to catch Mean look and arena trap then spend ages doign anything you can to make the battle go on for as long as you can accuracy lowering attack parlysing oppenents and then jsut things like howl or leer or anything that alters stats wait until the oppentent runs out of PP and starts using struggle when it get low throw a timer ball. Tada works with every legendary.

Except Rayquaza, which kills itself by using Outrage and becoming confused.
And Rests off paralysis.

I always just buy about sixty of each ball, try to get them to low health and then just throw like crazy. If it still isn't caught after forty turns, THEN switch to Timer Balls.

But yeah, your Master Ball should definitely be saved for Latia/os.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 08, 2006, 12:27:00 pm
I'm very disapointed with the whole male/female variations thing.  I was lead to believe that every Pokemon would have some kind of variation, even if the differences were small, it was still a pretty cool sounding thing.  But only five or six of the new Pokemon have any changes at all, and most of them aren't even noticable unless you do a side by side comparassion.

This was one of my most anticpated new features of the game, but now I only find myself asking, what was the point.  I hope they expand upon this in future games at least, it would have been neat if they had actually put some effort into it.

I made this topic way back, when it seemed like Diamond and Pearl were going to be a huge step up for the series, but now it just seems to be another rehash of exactly the same things we've seen before, the few new features we do have seem to have been very poorly implemented.  And no matter what anyone says, I still think the graphics are ugly, and the music annoying.

Oh well, there's still Battle Revolution to look forward to, I just hope it isn't based upon the Colosseum games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 08, 2006, 11:25:51 pm
Did u not hear you don't need master ball for the Latis Mean Look or Arena trap is all good. if outrage is killing it then just lower its own atack ability to slow it down until it isn't effective and hopefully it will rest is way back up. i think after about 30 rounds timer balls are as good as they will ever get anyway.

As for music in Pokemon games I play with the sound down anyway ussually listen to music or something anyway i don't find the sound nessicary for portible games and battery lasts longer with out sound.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 09, 2006, 01:49:35 am
Did u not hear you don't need master ball for the Latis Mean Look or Arena trap is all good. if outrage is killing it then just lower its own atack ability to slow it down until it isn't effective and hopefully it will rest is way back up. i think after about 30 rounds timer balls are as good as they will ever get anyway.

As for music in Pokemon games I play with the sound down anyway ussually listen to music or something anyway i don't find the sound nessicary for portible games and battery lasts longer with out sound.
It's a lot easier to just chuck a Master Ball at it than to train a Dugtrio or a Pokemon with Mean Look.

Also, doesn't Levitate mean that they can flee from Dugtrio anyway? Levitating and Flying Pokes are supposed to be immune to Arena Trap.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 09, 2006, 04:19:27 am
I dunno seeing area trap is a special ability not an actual move I never tested it.

Also in 2 weeks I'll be seeing my cousin looks like Mario and Luigi partners in time will be put on hold time to start training.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 09, 2006, 08:06:41 am
I'm very disapointed with the whole male/female variations thing.  I was lead to believe that every Pokemon would have some kind of variation, even if the differences were small, it was still a pretty cool sounding thing.  But only five or six of the new Pokemon have any changes at all, and most of them aren't even noticable unless you do a side by side comparassion.

This was one of my most anticpated new features of the game, but now I only find myself asking, what was the point.  I hope they expand upon this in future games at least, it would have been neat if they had actually put some effort into it.

Well, how many real animals can you tell the difference between males and females with? Some pokémon were already split between males and females even before this, like Tauros/Miltank or the Nidorans.

Yeah, Arena Trap doesn't work on flyers/levitators.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 09, 2006, 08:39:33 am
So, folks, I haven't played a Pokemon game since ... like ... 1994 or something. Which game should I get back into it with? 'Cause I remember having fun with them, they just sort of fell to the side at some point.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 09, 2006, 10:34:09 am
So, folks, I haven't played a Pokemon game since ... like ... 1994 or something. Which game should I get back into it with? 'Cause I remember having fun with them, they just sort of fell to the side at some point.
That depends. FireRed and LeafGreen are remakes of the original Red and Blue games, with most of the new enhancements added, and a few extra quests thrown on at the end. So if you're looking for something more familiar, I'd go with one of those.

Your other option would be Ruby or Sapphire, which are entirely new (lol) games. And by that I mean that the Pokemon are new. It's still basically the same thing as every previous game, with the gym-going and whatnot. Except they added things like double battles and innate traits for different Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 09, 2006, 06:14:51 pm
nothing wrong with waiting for Diamond and Pearl either really.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 10, 2006, 12:07:06 am
I'd just wait for Diamond and Pearl.  Even though I just went on a massive rant about how they're rehashes, if you haven't played the series for a while they defiently seem like the best place to start.  It is easily the biggest game, and most of the Pokemon are available in it, and the ones that aren't you could just trade for over wi-fi.  Plus it's compatable with Battle Revolution that's coming out for the Wii soon.

The GBA games have the problem of needing around 14 or so games to get all of the Pokes.  It's really just not worth it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PHI-1618 on October 10, 2006, 09:18:37 am
Guess I'll just wait for Diamond and Pearl then. Thanks, folks, for the info.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 10, 2006, 09:16:52 pm
Do you think they'll EVER make a full 3d pokemon RPG for the nintendo consoles? Making finding pokemon more than a randomised event, you'd have to go hunting through forest for them n stuff...I imagine something like the oblivion world which I often enjoyed hunting deer in.

Sorry, this has probably been mentioned elsewhere, I just get annoyed with them constantly turning the pokemon meat grinder instead of moving it to the next level.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 10, 2006, 09:27:29 pm
I htink the best you can hope for is Coloseam or Gale of Darkness.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 10, 2006, 09:31:11 pm
but they're lame! (IMO)

They need to hire me as game designer! I'll fix it for em.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 10, 2006, 09:43:28 pm
I played GoD on a station in a store once hated how long each turn took.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fade2gray on October 10, 2006, 09:46:53 pm
You know, I think every gamer who has ever played a pokemon game has been wishing for the same thing sence day one. Where's our 3D pokemon? In our dreams thats where...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 10, 2006, 09:50:23 pm
well, the community's obviously here for it, if I were a publisher I'd see this huge niche that needs to be filled and start salivating. Maybe's its something along the lines of them seeing what happened to coloseum and interpreiting that as us not liking 3D instead of us not liking that particular direction they were taking the pokemon franchise in.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fade2gray on October 10, 2006, 09:55:59 pm
That, or they think their audience is too young to know their own arse from a half-arsed 3D Pokemon knockoff.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 10, 2006, 09:59:30 pm
Make it rock and they will come.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 10, 2006, 10:15:33 pm
Ok, I call game designer (I've got four months experience! **nods**) you build me a team of decent game programmers and artists, make nintendo gimme the pokemon name to splash on it and get someone to give me vast sums of money and I'll do the rest.

Also, you may want to get a game designer.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Sub on October 12, 2006, 02:27:07 pm
They probably don't see a need to create a 3D Pokemon.  I mean, the 2D one sold 2 million copies in a few hours, what incentive do they have to spend more development money on the game?  It's already guaranteed to sell out.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 12, 2006, 02:31:48 pm
They probably don't see a need to create a 3D Pokemon.
They made two already.

They just weren't as successful.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 12, 2006, 04:56:51 pm
Because they werent proper pokemon games.

They didnt follow the free-roaming catch-em-all formula.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 12, 2006, 06:27:10 pm
We are asking for the exact same game play with full Wii graphics here not just upload you poke's and have trainer battles. Throw in full random encounters in forests and caves spending the afternoon grinding up levels for the next gym leader and so on.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 12, 2006, 06:32:51 pm
I'd also like to see a bit more challenge to catching pokemon in the wild. Instead of walking backwards and forward across bushes you walk into a big forest and actually have to look around for signs of pokemon. When you happen upon one it might charge you if it is thus inclined or it might run away and you've gotta hunt it down and be a bit sneaky about it or at least send your pokemon out to hunt it down.

You know, a bit more emersion than just a random event that occurs and the distributed probability of the pokemon you want appearing is X so you wont see it till you walk backwards and forwards across grass about Y times.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 12, 2006, 06:42:58 pm
Sort of have it so Wild poke's spawn  around the are obviously the rarer they are that hard it is to find them in the 1st place spawning less often and being harder to actually get to.  Part of the forest where the rarer pokemon are require a bit more skill to access.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 13, 2006, 04:20:14 am
Why not just wait for Pokémon on the Nintendo Holodeck, or until Nintendo finally purchases a planet and creates Pokéworld?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on October 15, 2006, 08:29:56 pm
I can barely wait two months for the wii to come out...patience isn't my strong point. Plus I think I'd get my butt kicked for me on the pokeworld.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 16, 2006, 09:50:24 pm
Just under a week until I face my cousin and hopefully find out who is the better trainer. Tensions are running high. :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on October 17, 2006, 07:50:21 am
Just under a week until I face my cousin and hopefully find out who is the better trainer. Tensions are running high. :D
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was (doo doo DOO!)
To catch them is my real test, to TRAIN THEM IS MY CAUUUUUUSE! ♪
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 17, 2006, 08:20:08 pm
Unlike Ash my pokemon aren't poorly trained and filled with an assortment of deep emotion problems.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on December 15, 2006, 11:35:18 pm
And you don't throw them in the trashcan the second they evolve.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on December 16, 2006, 01:04:54 am
or focus your entire stratagy on one pokemon
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on December 16, 2006, 03:05:52 pm
Or have giant tear drops appear on the side of your face. ^.^
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 16, 2006, 03:42:52 pm
Instead of reading through 31 pages of this thread, and because I can't find it online:

How many pokemon total in Pearl and Diamond? I know there is 107 new pokemon, but how many can be caught total?

They must have over 400 by now I think. And I'd like a big game.

I remember on my Blue version I got all 151. I was so proud. =)

Later Edit: Anyhow, all this talk about this game got me interested in a little research into how Pokemon has been doing since I lost touch with it. I came up across a "Banned Episodes" page on wikipedia about the series which is worth a read. It's rather entertaining.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_episodes_of_Pok%C3%A9mon
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: ArkServer on December 17, 2006, 06:20:04 am
Instead of reading through 31 pages of this thread, and because I can't find it online:

How many pokemon total in Pearl and Diamond? I know there is 107 new pokemon, but how many can be caught total?

They must have over 400 by now I think. And I'd like a big game.

I remember on my Blue version I got all 151. I was so proud. =)

Later Edit: Anyhow, all this talk about this game got me interested in a little research into how Pokemon has been doing since I lost touch with it. I came up across a "Banned Episodes" page on wikipedia about the series which is worth a read. It's rather entertaining.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_episodes_of_Pok%C3%A9mon

lol at the banned eps, some of them are funny
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on December 17, 2006, 10:33:35 am
There are now 493 Pokemon.  I'm not sure why they keep going with the odd numbers.

And has anyone seen the new videos of Battle Revolution on the Wii?  I was pretty excited when the first showed the trailer, but unfortuantely that first one seemed to be completely CG.  The game itself looks no better than Colosseum and XD did on the Gamecube and they were sub-par even for the Gamecube, the attack animations are still boring and some of them just bizarre.  What's up with them quickly facing different directions when they use agility?  It looks very amateurish, I've seen Flash animations with more effort put into them.  And also, the battles themselves still seem very slow and disjointed - you see the Pokemon get hit, stagger backwards, get up again, and THEN they faint.

I don't mean to be a graphics whore, but I thought the whole point of these games were to make the battles look really impressive and fun to watch, but as it is they seem lower quality than what you get with the 2D games on the DS. 
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 17, 2006, 11:22:04 am
There are now 493 Pokemon.  I'm not sure why they keep going with the odd numbers.

Indeed. But are there 493 to catch in Diamond and Pearl?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on December 17, 2006, 01:04:15 pm
No, that's slightly more difficult to answer.  I'm not sure if anyone knows just how many are available yet.  You definetely still need the older games if you want to get some of the older Pokemon, but a good deal of them do appear in Diamond/Pearl, I think it's mainly just the starters and legendaries from the older games you can't get, along with a few of the exclusives.

But there's wi-fi now, so instead of having to go out and buy the older games, you can just find someone online willing to trade whatever you need.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 19, 2006, 07:36:50 pm
Which is how I imagine most of us will get alot of pokemon I'll be willing to trade some ruby pokes for those who need them i recommend breeding those you can get throught trading just simply so you you can then trade those realy easy as well. high up on my list of pokemon to trade for will be a ditto purely for breeding purposes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on December 19, 2006, 07:51:36 pm
And has anyone seen the new videos of Battle Revolution on the Wii?  I was pretty excited when the first showed the trailer, but unfortuantely that first one seemed to be completely CG.  The game itself looks no better than Colosseum and XD did on the Gamecube and they were sub-par even for the Gamecube, the attack animations are still boring and some of them just bizarre.  What's up with them quickly facing different directions when they use agility?  It looks very amateurish, I've seen Flash animations with more effort put into them.  And also, the battles themselves still seem very slow and disjointed - you see the Pokemon get hit, stagger backwards, get up again, and THEN they faint.
Yes! Thank you.

I made a post like this on Smogon and everyone was all "lawl what would YOU have them do for agility? do a bunch of cartwheels?!"

There seems to be no sign of attacks leaving lasting marks on the arena either. Oh, and they're STILL using Stadium's models for the first and second generation pokes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Sub on December 19, 2006, 08:36:19 pm
They don't care.  It will sell millions with minimal effort.  The only thing they have to do is not mess up the main pokemon game and their fine.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on December 24, 2006, 10:30:57 pm
Apparently now you can not just breed baby pokemon, but catch them in the wild. And FINALLY, there's a level 1! It was starting to annoy me they way it started at 5, but now babies are born at level 1.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 25, 2006, 11:02:05 am
I remember a trick with Gold/Silver, if you put a ditto with any pokemon (male or female) it'll produce the pokemon (not ditto's) egg.

That poor ditto was the father/mother of every baby pokemon I made.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on December 25, 2006, 11:13:51 am
Yeah, you can still do that.

Dittos are such pimps.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 25, 2006, 11:27:01 am
Whoever makes a pimp ditto image wins a pimp ditto image for their signiture or avatar!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 25, 2006, 09:42:48 pm
I been looking to get a ditto in my copy of Ruby my cousin has leaf green but hasn't finsihed the game and doesn't have the universal dex so can't trade with me. Well I'll probably get one when D/P comes out.

In other news I did manage to get to battle him on his copy of Saphire and I whooped his arse. Keep in mind all my Pokemon are at least level 78 his highest was a blazeken at 78. Eeverything else was level 50 and under.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on December 25, 2006, 11:11:21 pm
I been looking to get a ditto in my copy of Ruby my cousin has leaf green but hasn't finsihed the game and doesn't have the universal dex so can't trade with me. Well I'll probably get one when D/P comes out.

In other news I did manage to get to battle him on his copy of Saphire and I whooped his arse. Keep in mind all my Pokemon are at least level 78 his highest was a blazeken at 78. Eeverything else was level 50 and under.

Slaughter fest :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 26, 2006, 10:50:49 am
My whole top 6 in sapphire is at lvl 100. But they are the legendaries... I was such a noob. Always more impressive if you have non-legendary lvl 100's. I remember I got a lvl 100 Gyrados in blue. That was my favorite of the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on December 26, 2006, 11:08:26 am
All I ever had at level 100, IIRC, was my lineup in Blue. I had the three starters (because I thought they were awesome), Alakazam, Gengar, Mewtwo, and Mew at one point...

Good times.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 26, 2006, 11:15:15 am
I got mew. Friend had a gameshark. Also got a celebi on my sapphire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on December 27, 2006, 06:12:08 am
You suck you guys got mews always wanted one. *sigh* Well time goes on.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 28, 2006, 04:27:37 am
Heh, ive never got a Poke to lvl 100. my closest I think is my Sapphire Flygon... I think the Tyranitar I have in Gold is pretty close as well. Damn, I wish i could transfer some of my team from Gold over to Sapphire. I have about three really awesome team-members in each but the other three are generally just fillers. Only non-compatibility stands between me and the Ultimate Poke-lineup.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on December 28, 2006, 06:11:14 am
i think the clossesed i ever got to 100 was with one of my pideons (or whatever they were called) at level 98 or so.

i also had a lv.95 blastoise, but i think i deleted that game :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on December 28, 2006, 07:24:35 am
I tend to train my Pokemon to level 50, it keeps them at a nice round level that isn't too hard to reach, so me and my friends can easily build up teams to battle.  Trying to get them all to level 100 would just take far too long.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 28, 2006, 06:59:46 pm
I had some which I got to 100 in blue by exploiting the multiple item glitch one rare candies but then I have since deleted that game to start new.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 28, 2006, 07:09:20 pm
Ah Missingno, the ultimate Pokemon! (Especially when he turned into a lvl 120 rhydon when caught that went down levels as it gained exp)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 28, 2006, 07:11:45 pm
I feel bad.

I didn't cheat. =)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 28, 2006, 09:11:58 pm
None of my current Pokemon have been leveled up with cheats. Well Actulyl I used it to evolve some pokemon to increase the pokedex in blue but my main team are leveled up the tradtional way.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on December 28, 2006, 10:56:45 pm
I pretty much had only one true lvl 100 poke that was ferilgator never lost once until somebody use a Zapdos on the same lvl by using the rare
candy cheat. >:(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 29, 2006, 04:37:02 am
That's why I favour using the level fifty level cap when playing competitively. It means that most players will have to raise another team, and this time they'll put more effort into raising co-operative pokémon.

It also allowed me to re-use my Battle Tower team, which never failed to whallop my sister.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on December 29, 2006, 09:21:58 am
Oh, on that note, D/P will automatically adjust your pogeys' levels to 50 or 100 for the battle tower and battles against other people.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 29, 2006, 10:53:34 am
Snazzy. Now that will come in handy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Malt on December 29, 2006, 11:37:21 am
Blastoise is, and always will be, the only good pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on December 29, 2006, 11:42:34 am
I rather like the monkey like thing in the D/P. The starter fire type one.

Though, the tree growing out of the back on the grass starter is interesting too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on December 29, 2006, 01:40:04 pm
Oh, on that note, D/P will automatically adjust your pogeys' levels to 50 or 100 for the battle tower and battles against other people.

I heard about this before, but no one was ever very specific about it.  Does it only work for wi-fi battles, or can it be used for any type of multiplay battle?

This is really great because it means me and my friends can finally use Pokemon like Tyranatar and Dragonite, which need to be trained over level 50 in order to evolve.  If they can just be brought down to match the rest for multiplayer battles, then that solves everything.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 29, 2006, 09:47:14 pm
Blastoise is, and always will be, the only good pokemon.

Actully it's just a standard water type Swampert is probably better it has better stats plus its a ground type. Give it earthquake and you got a power house. Having said that Koygre or what ever the sapphire legendary is called would be better still a water type that has massive stats and performs raindance when ever it is called into the battlefield.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on December 31, 2006, 09:30:49 am
Swampert has its advantages and disadvantages:
Immunity to electricity, one of the most used types in the game.
Double weakness to grass, one of the least used types.
Learns earthquake, one of the best attacks, and can learn surf or hydro pump if you keep it as a mudkup for a while.

Swampert:
Advantages>Disadvantages.

Swampert>Blastoise...Most of the time.

Edit: Of course, It's the only water starter you can't get Hydro cannon with, so there's another disadvantage, but Hydro pump is almost as good.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on December 31, 2006, 11:21:45 am
Which is better a water/steel type or a fire/eletric type?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 31, 2006, 01:31:43 pm
Water/Steel since there are, to my knowledge, no Fire/Electric 'mon at all.

They both have the same number of weaknesses (to my recollection,) but Fire/Electric would have a double weakness to Ground type, which would maul it at every opportunity.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 06:20:12 am
And there are a lot of ground types and ground type attack around.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 02, 2007, 08:52:51 am
They need to add a lot more Fire types, I think in total there's around 16 different ones (not counting evolutions, etc), with Diamond and Pearl only adding two, one of them being the starter and the other a legendary.  I still maintain that there are certain types they shoudn't over do, such as Dragon and Ghost, but we really need a few more Fire types out there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 09:08:07 am
Steel is pretty underused as well.

But we definitely don't need more normal, bug, flying or water types. Basically every new example from that group has sucked (well, swellow is pretty cool looking, but other than that)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 02, 2007, 09:12:41 am
I say, what we need are more Poison types. All the other rare types, like Fire, Ghost and Steel, have some seriously tough 'mon to stick up for them. What does poison have? Weezing and Crobat.

Depressingly, those are the hardest Poison types.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 10:41:23 am
Heh, and Crobat doesnt really gain anything from being poison type. its best moves are Dark attacks and various neutral status effect type attacks.

It doesnt help that a whole bunch of stuff has resistance to poison.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 02, 2007, 12:42:20 pm
Well, it does only have two weaknesses, making it defensively equal to Water type. Weezing only has one, thanks to Levitate. But all of its attacks suck - besides Toxic, which can be learned by anything.

And the only thing weak to Poison is Grass, which doesn't help either. It used to be super-effective against Bug - can't it at least hammer the newly empowered Fighting type?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 02, 2007, 12:57:12 pm
Actually, it has fairly decent attacks. Sludge Bomb, Rockslide, Focus Punch, Explosion...

Not to mention great stats. The only reason Muk got the short end of the stick is because of that pesky Ground weakness. Practically every physical attacker is guaranteed to be carrying Earthquake, so they easily shut poor Muk down, unlike Weezing/Crobat.

He's still the coolest Poison type though.

I'd sooner make Poison super effective against Water, if I had an opportunity to change the type chart. It'll never happen though. Game Freak loves Water types. There are more Waters than any other type of Pokemon, even Normal.
I say, what we need are more Poison types. All the other rare types, like Fire, Ghost and Steel, have some seriously tough 'mon to stick up for them. What does poison have? Weezing and Crobat.
And Venusaur, Gengar and sort of Tentacruel.

Fire only really has Blaziken, Charizard and kind of Moltres. Although Arcanine is set to become awesome in D/P. I think what's really needed is some bugs that don't suck.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 02, 2007, 02:15:29 pm
Ninetails isn't bad - I used one in my battle tower team, and it always did what I needed it to do. The evolved Magmar should be pretty decent, too.

As for Bugs that don't suck, there's Scyther... And Heracross, sort of.

I see your point.


Sludge Bomb only has 85 accuracy, as I recall. 90 power is good enough but it's still not as good, even ignoring type, as things like Earthquake or Surf. Combined with the fact that it's only super-effective against Grass, which is weak to everything, more-or-less, and most of the time you'd really be better of with something else - even if you are Muk.

Can Muk learn Earthquake? I can't remember.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 02, 2007, 02:20:03 pm
Actually, it's 100% accuracy.

And no, for some reason he can't learn Earthquake...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on January 02, 2007, 02:24:09 pm
Bugs were weak and evoled to quickly for me. And on another note, I always wanted to combine a poison and dragon types. It would be weird plus it wound be not be effected by ground. Although I do like that new legendary Ghost/Dragon type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 02, 2007, 02:47:19 pm
Actually, it's 100% accuracy.

And no, for some reason he can't learn Earthquake...

Oh, it's Toxic that's 85%. My mistake.

A Poison/Dragon would still be weak against Ground type attacks. It would be weak to Ground, Psychic, Ice and Dragon type attacks, giving it more weaknesses than either of its constituent parts. At least it wouldn't be doubly weak to Ice, like most Dragons, though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on January 02, 2007, 02:58:22 pm
Dragon aren't effected by ground attacks in the newer versions.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 02, 2007, 03:04:24 pm
Yes they are. The only reason things like Salamence and Flygon aren't hit by Ground is because they're Flying/Dragon, or in Flygon's case, have Levitate as their ability.

Kingdra, Dragonair, etc are affected by Ground.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on January 02, 2007, 03:12:27 pm
oh ok thx
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 03:15:37 pm
Ninetails kicks ass. As does Heracross (Megahorn, the only good bug move in the entire game, very useful against psychcics, as long as youre fast enough to get the first strike).

Flygon sort of counts as a bug... except it isnt bug type... or even flying type. Beats me why it evolves from Trapinch.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on January 02, 2007, 03:21:42 pm
Samething with magikarp and Gyrados.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 03:34:56 pm
Well, that sort of makes sense. i mean, they both look pretty aquatic.

Plus, the gimmick of having a strong Poke evolve from a useless one shouldnt be overused. Feebas -> Milotic was stretching it in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2007, 04:16:16 pm
Personally I want to see a Fire/bug type obviously something that looks like a firefly or something possibly with some Lava stage appearance for the pre-evolved format. if it gets levitate because it's a firefly all the better. The big advantage being Fire should neagte the weakness to fire. Birds will still be a problem as will water. Still if they ever decide to invent some decent bug attacks and you got something that will be pretty good agaisnt psycic.

I'd also like something that makes a Grass type really good I really like the Ludico (sp?) that was in Sapphire Only was really weak againt flying in fact in battle tower Ludico was one of the biggest problems I faced. Also I good grass would be Fire/grass once again i think only weak to Flying.

Actully one of the things I'd me interested in for starter pokemon would be having them as grass/fire, fire/water, water/grass.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2007, 04:22:47 pm
But then the starters wouldnt form a rock-paper-scissors and your lame rival would have no chance of ever defeating you :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 02, 2007, 04:28:29 pm
Well they barely form one as is, since you can always just throw an Ice Beam on the water starter and use it to kill the grass one.

I'm still disappointed they didn't do Fighting/Psychic/Dark starters though...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2007, 04:31:06 pm
The only problem being that Dark is 100% immune to Psycic. Still there are plenty of R/P/S combos in the game to try.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 02, 2007, 04:38:17 pm
When would you be using Flamethrower against Blastoise or Razor Leaf on Charizard anyway?

Your starter always begins at level 5 with just a weak normal-type move and a stat-lowerer, so their type doesn't make a difference until later. By the time your starter would have learned Confusion or whatever, you'd have caught something else that could beat the Dark starter, or just rely on a non-Psychic attack on your starter to beat it. It's not that hard...  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2007, 04:47:13 pm
So that makes my duel type for starters idea just as valid.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 03, 2007, 04:43:52 am
Starters are already dual-type: Fire/Flying, Grass/Poison, Fire/Fighting, Water/Ground, Fire/Fighting again, Grass/Ground and Water/Steel.

Water/Steel learns Drill Peck, too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 03, 2007, 03:47:16 pm
I was refering to my idea where they duel starter type ie fire/water. Although even if it isn't a starter i'd love to see a fire/water type anyway some kind of boiling water attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 03, 2007, 07:30:01 pm
Gyrados was always one of my favorite looking pokemon, but I hate the fact it's water/flying. It doesn't fly at all and all the flying does is give it a 2x weakness to lightning.

Meh... if it's going to be flying type, let me be able to teach it fly...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 03, 2007, 07:46:43 pm
Inever understood why garydos was so great i found that as well can't fly and double weak to electric.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 03, 2007, 08:03:44 pm
It's great because it has huge attack, great special defense, high hit points and Intimidate, which lets it take physical attacks very well.

Plus it's immune to Earthquake, beats grass types and is only weak against Electric and Rock (and it wipes the floor with most Rock types). The only thing that sucks is that it doesn't learn a single flying move...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 03, 2007, 08:13:15 pm
I guess those are good although most of my teams have an electric in them. I had one team that had a Garydos for a while I switched it out when i needed a serious flyer to get me around the map. Ended up grabbing a better water type and rolling with it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: ArkServer on January 04, 2007, 09:55:07 am
can;t wait to get this on my NDS :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Little on January 04, 2007, 07:45:16 pm
It'd be sweet if P&D had Wi-Fi play.


Battling anyone in the world..... :o
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 04, 2007, 08:00:10 pm
It'd be sweet if P&D had Wi-Fi play.


Battling anyone in the world..... :o

Doesn't it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 04, 2007, 08:20:33 pm
Yeah it does have Wi-fi play it the biggest selling feature of this version.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 04, 2007, 08:30:07 pm
Yeah it does have Wi-fi play it the biggest selling feature of this version.

I thought so. Here's what's on Wikipedia about it.

"Diamond and Pearl employ support for the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, allowing players to trade, battle and communicate through “voice chat” online. The main system for trade is Global Trade Station trading system. This allows trainers to search for any Pokémon they have seen from a world-wide scale, with the resulting list showing all the people that are willing to trade that Pokémon, as well as the Pokémon they want in return for it"

Here's some links with info about it.

Preview Pokemon Diamond Pearl
http://gamernode.com/DS/Previews/1481-Pokmon-Diamond-DS-1395/index.html

Global Trade System
http://pokemon.kids.yahoo.co.jp/dp/news/system/system006/system006.html?page=0
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 05, 2007, 12:05:16 am
Yeah, it has Wi-Fi battling, but only with friend codes.

For a random match-up service, we're gonna have to wait for Battle Revolution.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 05, 2007, 08:27:22 am
Does Battle Revolution even have that?  If so that would at least be one thing it has going for it.
So far it just seems to be a stripped down version of Colosseum, with a very limited character creator.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on January 09, 2007, 04:51:20 pm
When is it coming out in Canada?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 09, 2007, 05:40:04 pm
I dont think we even know when it's coming out anwhere outside of Japan yet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on January 09, 2007, 10:04:15 pm
It seems the americans have a release date - April 22 (http://au.ds.ign.com/articles/751/751830p1.html)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 10, 2007, 12:34:46 am
June 25th for Europe.  Seems like they really are trying to stop people importing, it's a much sooner release date than normal.  I think we waited more than 8 months for some of the games.

And unfortunately for NOE, it's still cheaper and faster to import the games from the US.  I'll continue to import until we get a reason not to.  Considering we usually have to wait so long, you think they could include some of the promo Pokemon, since they don't even bother holding the events here anymore.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 10, 2007, 01:11:31 am
Will Australia get the US release or the Europe release I know typically we get Europe releases but thats to do with it being PAL stuff DSes are universal and typically Australia shares the region with the US reguarding online stuff.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 10, 2007, 05:27:38 pm
It seems the americans have a release date - April 22 (http://au.ds.ign.com/articles/751/751830p1.html)

Aye. That's been set since the 17th of December. hehe. I feel like a nerd. I was there  the very day they leaked it accidently, then on the 20th when they made it official.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on January 11, 2007, 05:33:23 am
This is technically about Pokemon Gold, but there isn't a thread for that - I just got ahold of a copy very cheaply and was wondering what people's top tips were. I kinda played a friend's copy of Red back in the day but never owned it myself so I'm not particularly experienced. For a person relatively new to pokemon, what's the best advice you can give?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 11, 2007, 06:02:08 am
Pay attention to pokemon's stats. If it's got good attack, teach it physical attacks. If it's good defense, send it out against physical attackers. Same with special attacks and special defense.

No matter how mighty Ursaring's attack power is, its Faint Attack will barely even register since Dark type attacks are special. Having the right moves is possibly the most important thing about pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Malt on January 11, 2007, 06:12:20 am
Pokemon: Battle Revolution looks so cool. But I vowed never to buy any more Pokemon games.....

It's so shiny....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2007, 06:40:01 am
This is technically about Pokemon Gold, but there isn't a thread for that - I just got ahold of a copy very cheaply and was wondering what people's top tips were. I kinda played a friend's copy of Red back in the day but never owned it myself so I'm not particularly experienced. For a person relatively new to pokemon, what's the best advice you can give?
When you get to the end of the game and get to the final area, theres a relatively rare rock/dark type pokemon whose name escapes me at the moment. Catch one, it'll eventually evolve intoa Tyranitar, which is totally kickass.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on January 11, 2007, 07:09:28 am
Cool. I heard that bred pokemon tend to have higher stats. Is that true, and if so, is it worth the effort?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 11, 2007, 10:09:04 am
When you get to the end of the game and get to the final area, theres a relatively rare rock/dark type pokemon whose name escapes me at the moment. Catch one, it'll eventually evolve intoa Tyranitar, which is totally kickass.
Yeah, Larvitar.

Cool. I heard that bred pokemon tend to have higher stats. Is that true, and if so, is it worth the effort?
Sort of, and no.

When you breed Pokemon, the offspring will inherit two stats (I think it's two) from each parent, the other ones being randomised. What you want to do to get really high stats is breed something with a perfect score in one or more stats and wait until it passes on those scores to a child that randomly ends up with its other stats high, then switch it out and have the stronger child breed, and on and on until you get something with really good stats.

Unless you're really interested in playing against anorak players, this really isn't worth your time, especially in Gold where the difference between the maximum and minimum potential scores in a given stat is much lower than it is in the more recent games. Breeding is only really useful for getting certain moves onto a Pokemon that it couldn't normally learn.

Yeah, Pokemon is a surprisingly complicated game...

Pokemon: Battle Revolution looks so cool. But I vowed never to buy any more Pokemon games.....

It's so shiny....
I think it looks lame. A lot more effort was put into the Stadium titles.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 11, 2007, 04:58:30 pm
Yeah, Pokemon is a surprisingly complicated game...

Indeed. I first got the Blue version when I was 8. All I knew about making a good team was having high level and that was the only factor I based my party on. Pretty much my party contained of my starter and legendarys. And that's not necessarily a good team.

When I got into Gold, I looked more at about which moves and stats of pokemon. and when I got Sapphire I really got into the which pokemon had better stats and moves and would use my starter quite little compared to others.

In Spring I'll get Pearl. It'll be interesting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2007, 05:50:35 pm
Yeah, Pokemon is a surprisingly complicated game...

Indeed. I first got the Blue version when I was 8. All I knew about making a good team was having high level and that was the only factor I based my party on. Pretty much my party contained of my starter and legendarys. And that's not necessarily a good team.

When I got into Gold, I looked more at about which moves and stats of pokemon. and when I got Sapphire I really got into the which pokemon had better stats and moves and would use my starter quite little compared to others.
Basically the same with me. Except I was 11 when I got Blue. Bow before my 2 year superiority!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2007, 06:14:32 pm
When i 1st got blue it was about pokemon type very little about stats but if a pokemon generally sucked obviously I didn't keep it. I mostly concentrated on keeping a balanced team of the different types. Although looked at stats when i got Poke stadium although that was mostly just boosting everything with vitamins. Never had gold or silver but with Ruby started out same but after a while I started looking more and more at stats especially for battle tower ever every point counts.

Usually the team i use for playing the game isn't trained to be the best they are just in because they don't suck and i can teach them the HMs i need to get around easy. Once I'm champ i work on finding a good competingi team although i only had one 2 player game. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 11, 2007, 07:05:52 pm
So which of D/P do you guys plan on getting.

As stated, I plan on getting Pearl.

Everyone I know is getting Diamond so I decided to be the one who got Pearl so everyone wants to trade with me.  :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2007, 08:19:35 pm
Depends what is in store I guess if I see a million pearls and 1 diamond I'll get a pearl and vice versa also if I find out something about which ones are exclusive to which title might help me decide also.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 11, 2007, 08:26:22 pm
Well, the legendary of Diamond Controls time

The Legendary of Pearl controls Space.

Can't remember which site shows the other exclusive to which game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2007, 08:29:06 pm
How much control over time are we talking?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2007, 11:58:46 pm
Third version: Opal. Believe it!

I'm getting Pearl, personally.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 12, 2007, 12:37:01 am
Depends what is in store I guess if I see a million pearls and 1 diamond I'll get a pearl and vice versa also if I find out something about which ones are exclusive to which title might help me decide also.
http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/exclusives.shtml

If I end up getting D/P, I'll be picking Pearl since I already have most of the Diamond exclusives in my other games. I might hang on for the third game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2007, 04:35:15 am
Usually the team i use for playing the game isn't trained to be the best they are just in because they don't suck and i can teach them the HMs i need to get around easy.

Argh. HMs.  >:(

I mean, jeese, so now we have what? 7 moves that we must teach our Pokes to get around the overworld and through just about every dungeon and among those are totally duff moves like Cut and Rock Smash... and the only occasionally useful Flash (Savior of the Universe!).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 12, 2007, 04:41:11 am
You can teach every water type you get the best water-type move for free, thanks to HMs. They're not all bad.

Rock smash is, though. Ew.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2007, 04:43:51 am
You can teach every water type you get the best water-type move for free, thanks to HMs.

Except that it now works like earthquake and hits your ally too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 12, 2007, 04:46:32 am
Makes Vaporeon/Quagsire/Ludicolo more useful, but then you need to send out a second water type. Hmm.

Or you could just stick to using it in single battles, I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2007, 05:53:32 am
Don't forget whirlpool. Crappy, crappy whirlpool.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 12, 2007, 08:14:24 pm
I believe I read somewhere they downgraded an HM to a TM in D/P. Couldn't find which one though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2007, 12:05:55 am
u would think if the move was nessicary they would make kick so much arse.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 13, 2007, 12:10:28 am
I believe I read somewhere they downgraded an HM to a TM in D/P. Couldn't find which one though.

Flash, I think. Replaced by Fog Clear.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 13, 2007, 01:10:02 am
I really wish they would get rid of HM's alltogether. 

They're a very annoying way to stop the player progressing too far too soon.  Having to drag around a bunch of Pokemon you don't want to use, or even like most of the time, just so you can use certain HM's is just unnecessary.  Couldn't the same thing be achieved by giving players items, like a torch to light up caves, etc?

In my opinion, HM's really take away the enjoyability of playing through the games, because you can't just use which ever Pokemon you want.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 13, 2007, 08:47:58 am
I really wish they would get rid of HM's alltogether. 

They're a very annoying way to stop the player progressing too far too soon.  Having to drag around a bunch of Pokemon you don't want to use, or even like most of the time, just so you can use certain HM's is just unnecessary.  Couldn't the same thing be achieved by giving players items, like a torch to light up caves, etc?

In my opinion, HM's really take away the enjoyability of playing through the games, because you can't just use which ever Pokemon you want.
I agree. But Game Freak seem to have a serious aversion for recognising the faults in their games.

The EV system apparently hasn't been reworked at all, for instance.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 13, 2007, 11:23:47 am
The EV system apparently hasn't been reworked at all, for instance.

EV system?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 13, 2007, 12:37:58 pm
The most unintuitive game mechanic ever to be in any video game ever.

http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/ev.shtml
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2007, 08:08:04 pm
EV's aren't that bad it was just they were ment to be hidden values no one knew about giving a slight randomness to stat levels Gamefreak just didn't account for people pouring over every last code of pokemon for the best advantage on battling and finding how to make pokemon reach full potential.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Potetoe on January 13, 2007, 11:48:03 pm
I've never bothered with EV's or IV's or things like that, personally. I just raise whatever pokemon whose aesthetic appeals to me. My level 100's consisted of pokemon like Pichu, Vaporeon (Who was my first, and from the very first pokemon game I had- the only one where I used my real name as my player name.) and Houndoom. I never evolved my Naetle in Diamond. I don't like it's evolutions that much. I spent most of the game raising my Korinku, who I wish I kept on its second stage. The third evolution of it is kinda ugly. :-\

I plan on getting Pearl when it's released in the states. I almost wonder if I'll buy it immediatly or not though, because I haven't really been playing Pokemon as much as I used to for some reason. I guess I've just played it so long it's gotten a little old... From what I remember, Red was the first quote on quote 'videogame' I ever played. But that might have been Spyro. I don't remember.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 14, 2007, 12:55:39 am
EV's aren't that bad it was just they were ment to be hidden values no one knew about giving a slight randomness to stat levels Gamefreak just didn't account for people pouring over every last code of pokemon for the best advantage on battling and finding how to make pokemon reach full potential.
Yes, but people figured out that they were there ages ago, and since Ruby and Sappire there's now a cap on the number of EVs you get (and there are now certain items etc in the games that directly influence your EVs and that require you to know about EVs to make proper use of).

If EVs were still supposed to be a hidden system they wouldn't have added things like the Macho Brace and if they were thinking logically, they wouldn't have placed that cap on EVs, which basically means that people who DO know about EVs are now at a huge advantage over those that don't. In Gold and Silver, you'd most likely have maxed out your EVs in all stats by the time you'd reached level 100 anyway, even if you didn't know they were there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 14, 2007, 01:12:05 am
The EV system is another part of the game I completely hate.  I can't believe anyone in the world has enough time on their hands to train one Pokemon against five hundred Pidgeys, just to get a few extra stat points.  But indeed, the people who are sad enough to go to that much effort, have a massive advantage against those who don't.

It has to be the most broken system ever put into the game, but once again, Gamefreak refuse to even acknowlegde that there's anything even remotely wrong with their games.  And the fanboys will defend the game to their death.

Next time they need to pull a Final Fantasy XII and just give the game a massive make over.  To hell with the fanboys.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 14, 2007, 01:31:59 am
I don't think there's any way that will happen, sadly. I lost all hope for innovation when it was revealed that those Dark/Fighting/Psychic starters were fakes (and that the real starters looked completely stupid by comparison). Actually, I lost most hope then. I lost the rest when I saw how little work had been put into Pokemon Battle Revolution.

There are still fishermen with 6 Magikarp in this game.

Game Freak knows that their target audience doesn't care that they're just rehashing the same game over and over again. Most of the kids who'll get this game weren't even around to play Gold and Silver. There's absolutely no reason for Game Freak to ever push the envelope when they could very well staple a dead animal to a box labeled "Pokemon" and it would still sell millions of copies.

Love is over.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 14, 2007, 04:02:29 am
I wish they would push some more originality into their games.

Eight Gyms.
Elite Four (Of which there are never actually four of.)
A caring mother
The starter town being named after a sort of sapling plant
The professor named after a tree
Legendary Pokemon
An evil team with tacky names.

And plenty more similarities.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 14, 2007, 04:39:17 am
I wish they would push some more originality into their games.

Eight Gyms.
Elite Four (Of which there are never actually four of.)
A caring mother
The starter town being named after a sort of sapling plant
The professor named after a tree
Legendary Pokemon
An evil team with tacky names.

And plenty more similarities.
Yeah, in the fifth generation, they should have it that the main character is a 16-year-old kid whose alcoholic single mother is having a clandestine affair with the local Pokemon authority, Professor Bob (I still think that there was something going on between Ash's Mom and Prof. Oak, but that's another story). Little does our hero know that Bob is actually a member of the Yakuza, who fill the Team Rocket position for this game, and that the entire Pokemon League is being run by them behind the scenes.

Eventually, you'll find out about Bob's involvement with both the Yakuza AND your mother, and you'll shoot him dead in a fit of self-righteous rage, right in front of your mother's eyes. In tears, she tells you to leave town before she calls the cops on you, and you steal a ball from Bob's Pokeball belt, containing one of the three starters (because some traditions must remain intact) and flee. Throughout the game, you'll be given the choice of taking bribes from Yakuza members to lose Pokemon battles, and as you progress through the league and become more of a threat you'll have to battle against Yakuza hitmen who use Pokemon other than Zubat, as well as the police who are trying to hunt you down for the murder of Professor Bob.

On arriving at the league, you'll actually have to battle OTHER qualifying trainers before the Elite 4, because somehow more than one person (!) managed to beat the gyms and qualify for the League this time. Oh, and there'll be spectators and news crews too. Basically, the Pokemon League will be more than just five big empty rooms at the end of a cave filled with stationary trainers whose only ambition is to stop you and piss you off without ever actually reaching the League themselves.

If and when you finally beat the Pokemon League, the game won't end, because your guy will realise that it's a hollow victory - the entire sport of Pokemon battling is corrupt, so to put an end to it, you join the Japanese police and attempt to hunt down the crime lords. During this post-game Gold-and-Silver's-Kanto-equivalent portion of the game, you pistol-whip pimps and drug dealers until you've finally worked your way up to the top of Japan's leading crime syndicate, AND BECOME A POKEMON MASTER.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 14, 2007, 05:56:02 am
HYAAAAAAAH! So seriously, Bastardman, you should really email that to Gamefreak, I mean, imagine how much that game would sell?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 14, 2007, 08:28:58 am
Don't forget the miniskirts.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 14, 2007, 11:44:52 am
I wish they would push some more originality into their games.

Eight Gyms.
Elite Four (Of which there are never actually four of.)
A caring mother
The starter town being named after a sort of sapling plant
The professor named after a tree
Legendary Pokemon
An evil team with tacky names.

And plenty more similarities.

It sells.

I'm pretty ok with doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. I played WoW end-game for nearly a year. I've fought the same damn dragon Onyxia every Wednesday since November '05 till I quit in August (1 to 2 hour raid). I did Molten Core every Wednesday, Friday, and Saterday for the same amount of time (anywhere between 4 to 6 hours a night). Zul'Gurub, Ahn'Qiraj, and BWL various times during the whole perioud (no less then 3 hours a night) on off night raid days. Not to mention all the smaller dungeons which could take a couple hours each various since I started the game in June '05.

Trust me. I'm used to seeing the same damn thing more times then anyone needs too...

But If I could, I'd go back to WoW in a heartbeat. And I guess that's how I feel about the pokemon games too.

Here's a VG Cats Comic.
(http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/010904.gif)

HYAAAAAAAH! So seriously, Bastardman, you should really email that to Gamefreak, I mean, imagine how much that game would sell?

Hehe. I'd buy that.

Grand Theft Auto: Pokemon (or one of the area names. Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, or whatever that new one is called)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 14, 2007, 03:40:36 pm
I was with Bastardman until the pistol whipping at the end I mean shooting Prof Bob fair enough you dont have pokemon yet and your not in the main game but after that eveything is settled with poke battles and having pokemon lay it down on dealers is great you battle them 1st and in stead of them running away like girls once you bea them you then get the opurtunity to decide do turn your own pokemon on trainer as well?

trainers that you send to the burns unit from flamethrower attacks or maybe cut them up with a razorleaf or my favorite a psycic attack that turns them into vegitables where they live out the rest of there lives locked in a padded room in the fetal postions repeting the words "I choose you zubat"
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on January 14, 2007, 11:25:39 pm
Ash would be one of the drugges on the street who sells his pokemon for pot. Except pikachu because he is Ash's lover.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: HolsteinCow on January 21, 2007, 02:18:55 pm
I wish they would push some more originality into their games.

Eight Gyms.
Elite Four (Of which there are never actually four of.)
A caring mother
The starter town being named after a sort of sapling plant
The professor named after a tree
Legendary Pokemon
An evil team with tacky names.

And plenty more similarities.
Yeah, in the fifth generation, they should have it that the main character is a 16-year-old kid whose alcoholic single mother is having a clandestine affair with the local Pokemon authority, Professor Bob (I still think that there was something going on between Ash's Mom and Prof. Oak, but that's another story). Little does our hero know that Bob is actually a member of the Yakuza, who fill the Team Rocket position for this game, and that the entire Pokemon League is being run by them behind the scenes.

Eventually, you'll find out about Bob's involvement with both the Yakuza AND your mother, and you'll shoot him dead in a fit of self-righteous rage, right in front of your mother's eyes. In tears, she tells you to leave town before she calls the cops on you, and you steal a ball from Bob's Pokeball belt, containing one of the three starters (because some traditions must remain intact) and flee. Throughout the game, you'll be given the choice of taking bribes from Yakuza members to lose Pokemon battles, and as you progress through the league and become more of a threat you'll have to battle against Yakuza hitmen who use Pokemon other than Zubat, as well as the police who are trying to hunt you down for the murder of Professor Bob.

On arriving at the league, you'll actually have to battle OTHER qualifying trainers before the Elite 4, because somehow more than one person (!) managed to beat the gyms and qualify for the League this time. Oh, and there'll be spectators and news crews too. Basically, the Pokemon League will be more than just five big empty rooms at the end of a cave filled with stationary trainers whose only ambition is to stop you and piss you off without ever actually reaching the League themselves.

If and when you finally beat the Pokemon League, the game won't end, because your guy will realise that it's a hollow victory - the entire sport of Pokemon battling is corrupt, so to put an end to it, you join the Japanese police and attempt to hunt down the crime lords. During this post-game Gold-and-Silver's-Kanto-equivalent portion of the game, you pistol-whip pimps and drug dealers until you've finally worked your way up to the top of Japan's leading crime syndicate, AND BECOME A POKEMON MASTER.

Where's the part where you jack cars
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on January 22, 2007, 05:31:33 pm
This part:

Quote
Yeah, in the fifth generation, they should have it that the main character is a 16-year-old kid whose alcoholic single mother is having a clandestine affair with the local Pokemon authority, Professor Bob (I still think that there was something going on between Ash's Mom and Prof. Oak, but that's another story). Little does our hero know that Bob is actually a member of the Yakuza, who fill the Team Rocket position for this game, and that the entire Pokemon League is being run by them behind the scenes.

Eventually, you'll find out about Bob's involvement with both the Yakuza AND your mother, and you'll shoot him dead in a fit of self-righteous rage, right in front of your mother's eyes. In tears, she tells you to leave town before she calls the cops on you, and you steal a ball from Bob's Pokeball belt, containing one of the three starters (because some traditions must remain intact) and flee. Throughout the game, you'll be given the choice of taking bribes from Yakuza members to lose Pokemon battles, and as you progress through the league and become more of a threat you'll have to battle against Yakuza hitmen who use Pokemon other than Zubat, as well as the police who are trying to hunt you down for the murder of Professor Bob.

On arriving at the league, you'll actually have to battle OTHER qualifying trainers before the Elite 4, because somehow more than one person (!) managed to beat the gyms and qualify for the League this time. Oh, and there'll be spectators and news crews too. Basically, the Pokemon League will be more than just five big empty rooms at the end of a cave filled with stationary trainers whose only ambition is to stop you and piss you off without ever actually reaching the League themselves.

If and when you finally beat the Pokemon League, the game won't end, because you'll whistle for a cab, and when it comes near. The license plate'll say fresh and it'll have dice in the mirror. If anything you could say can say this cab is rare, but you'll think 'Now forget it' and jack the cabbie, running him over as you drive off.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 23, 2007, 07:44:33 pm
Talk about a thread killer.  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on January 25, 2007, 11:45:27 am
Sorry if this has been answered on one of the other 38 pages, but what's the difference going to be between diamond and pearl?

Thinking back, pokemon was a damn fine game once you strip away all the marketing and juvenile stuff.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 25, 2007, 07:34:22 pm
Same things that back red different than blue, gold different from silver and ruby different than sapphire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: GameManic on January 25, 2007, 07:51:07 pm
I wish they would push some more originality into their games.

Eight Gyms.
Elite Four (Of which there are never actually four of.)
A caring mother
The starter town being named after a sort of sapling plant
The professor named after a tree
Legendary Pokemon
An evil team with tacky names.

And plenty more similarities.
Yeah, in the fifth generation, they should have it that the main character is a 16-year-old kid whose alcoholic single mother is having a clandestine affair with the local Pokemon authority, Professor Bob (I still think that there was something going on between Ash's Mom and Prof. Oak, but that's another story). Little does our hero know that Bob is actually a member of the Yakuza, who fill the Team Rocket position for this game, and that the entire Pokemon League is being run by them behind the scenes.

Eventually, you'll find out about Bob's involvement with both the Yakuza AND your mother, and you'll shoot him dead in a fit of self-righteous rage, right in front of your mother's eyes. In tears, she tells you to leave town before she calls the cops on you, and you steal a ball from Bob's Pokeball belt, containing one of the three starters (because some traditions must remain intact) and flee. Throughout the game, you'll be given the choice of taking bribes from Yakuza members to lose Pokemon battles, and as you progress through the league and become more of a threat you'll have to battle against Yakuza hitmen who use Pokemon other than Zubat, as well as the police who are trying to hunt you down for the murder of Professor Bob.

On arriving at the league, you'll actually have to battle OTHER qualifying trainers before the Elite 4, because somehow more than one person (!) managed to beat the gyms and qualify for the League this time. Oh, and there'll be spectators and news crews too. Basically, the Pokemon League will be more than just five big empty rooms at the end of a cave filled with stationary trainers whose only ambition is to stop you and piss you off without ever actually reaching the League themselves.

If and when you finally beat the Pokemon League, the game won't end, because your guy will realise that it's a hollow victory - the entire sport of Pokemon battling is corrupt, so to put an end to it, you join the Japanese police and attempt to hunt down the crime lords. During this post-game Gold-and-Silver's-Kanto-equivalent portion of the game, you pistol-whip pimps and drug dealers until you've finally worked your way up to the top of Japan's leading crime syndicate, AND BECOME A POKEMON MASTER.

This is the greates game pitch I have ever heard Bastardman.  I salute your great idea for redefining a series going into stagnation.  If only more people thought in this way we may not have to experience rehashes of the same gameplay with a different name and better graphics.  Its ideas like this that if Nintendo would go with, we would have many quality mature oriented games for all of us that can handle the gritty realties of the world could enjoy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 26, 2007, 07:30:27 pm
I looked around and stumbled on some MIDIs already made of the game. Some of them were battle themes titled with a "Team Galaxy" in the song name. Could this be the evil organization that plays Team Rockets part in this game?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 26, 2007, 08:11:37 pm
Wow, Eligecos, your way behind on news.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2007, 09:19:33 pm
I looked around and stumbled on some MIDIs already made of the game. Some of them were battle themes titled with a "Team Galaxy" in the song name. Could this be the evil organization that plays Team Rockets part in this game?

Wow you are behind granted I recently found this for for my self but seeing the game has been released in Japan for what like 3 so months now people have played and finsihed this game many times over there really isn't any news to release on this game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 26, 2007, 10:48:42 pm
Heh, I don't care much to read a 39+ page thread anyways. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 26, 2007, 11:29:41 pm
You dont need to read 39 pages to know its out in japan already thats like very old news and rather big pokemon news.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on January 27, 2007, 10:07:06 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Diamond_and_Pearl

There is this magical site run by Jesus, Eligecos. Check it out.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on January 28, 2007, 07:48:16 am
The wikipedia article says nothing about online connectivity. How much will there be? Will it be just like having the other person there, and you can trade pokemon that way? My friend and I will buy it if that's the case (different versions, of course).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on January 28, 2007, 07:57:11 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Diamond_and_Pearl

There is this magical site run by Jesus, Eligecos. Check it out.
If by 'Jesus' you mean a shower of pedantic, anal-retentive idealogues...

The wikipedia article says nothing about online connectivity. How much will there be? Will it be just like having the other person there, and you can trade pokemon that way? My friend and I will buy it if that's the case (different versions, of course).
There's a global trade station where you can put up Pokemon for trade and specify what you want in return, then when you come back, someone may or may not have traded you.

From what I've heard, everything else requires Friend Codes.  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on January 28, 2007, 07:33:47 pm
There's a global trade station where you can put up Pokemon for trade and specify what you want in return, then when you come back, someone may or may not have traded you.

I can't tell if you're kidding or not.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 28, 2007, 07:49:24 pm
That's basically what happens from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on February 10, 2007, 11:11:12 pm
I went on ahead and bought me Fire Red. (coz it brings back memories of the old Pokemon. ;D ) I'm playing through it right now so that if I possibly get this new one, I can move my other ones into this one. Though I hope you don't have to play over 2/3 through the game so I earn the ability to do so like what Red and Green one does with Ruby and Saphire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on February 11, 2007, 12:43:59 am
Unfortunately, you do.

Once again, you need to have the national dex before you can trade between the older games and in order to get it, you need to have seen all 200 or so Pokemon from the D/P dex.  I can understand why they do this, they don't want people to import all of their old super powerfull Pokemon too early in the game, but it's so easy to get around that, it's just pointless.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on February 11, 2007, 07:39:02 am
Yeah, that's why I thought they were doing it as well.

But the pal park, where you transfer your Pokemon from your old games to D/P isn't available until after you defeat the Elite Four, so given that, it seems completely pointless to also add this limitation.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 11, 2007, 02:40:45 pm
I can see the point as well although it is a pain as i can't trade some of my Ruby Poke's with my cousin because he hasn't finished leaf green. Oh well i guess i can work on making a market of Mudkips to trade with people or something.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on February 12, 2007, 01:03:45 am
Yeah, that's why I thought they were doing it as well.

But the pal park, where you transfer your Pokemon from your old games to D/P isn't available until after you defeat the Elite Four, so given that, it seems completely pointless to also add this limitation.

Tha Pal Park itself seems like a completely worthless addition as well.  I could understand it, if all the Pokemon you caught were giving new ID numbers, etc, but no.  When you catch them they're exactly the same as they were back in your old GBA games.  So why do we have to go through all the trouble of catching them again?  and why can we only do six a day?

It seems they're just trying to make things awkward, it's going to take me weeks to transfer all mine over.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on February 25, 2007, 03:28:59 pm
Well, we're getting closer to the US release now, dispite a lot of the problems it seems to have, I'm pretty excited.  There's been a lot of new info lately too, mostly the US names for the new Pokemon.  I won't bother posting them all, but needless to say they're all pretty awful, especially the starters.  Piplup, Turtwig and Chimchar.  Other notable terrible names include "Bidoof", "Driftblim" and "Starly".

Seems like they hand a random brainstorming session and used whatever was thrown out first.  Thank god for nicknames.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on February 25, 2007, 08:33:59 pm
Piplup, Turtwig and Chimchar.
Hahahaha, wow. Those fake Pokemon in the bootleg games have better names than that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on February 26, 2007, 01:11:14 pm
Well, we're getting closer to the US release now, dispite a lot of the problems it seems to have, I'm pretty excited.  There's been a lot of new info lately too, mostly the US names for the new Pokemon.  I won't bother posting them all, but needless to say they're all pretty awful, especially the starters.  Piplup, Turtwig and Chimchar.  Other notable terrible names include "Bidoof", "Driftblim" and "Starly".

Seems like they hand a random brainstorming session and used whatever was thrown out first.  Thank god for nicknames.
...and that's why I started naming them after Gold
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 26, 2007, 01:21:37 pm
What happened to the people who came up with good names? Did they die?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on February 26, 2007, 01:56:56 pm
Along with the people who came up with good character designs.

They were in the same car.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 26, 2007, 02:06:00 pm
Let this be a lesson to all of us. Seatbelts save both lives and videogame franchises.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on February 26, 2007, 06:45:49 pm
Wasn't 150 enough? I just read on wikipedia there are 500 now. Jesus, they just couldn't leave a good thing alone...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 26, 2007, 07:11:03 pm
I dont mind them adding more as it seems to further balance the game each time. If they didn't add new pokemon whats the point of continuing the series. It's about finding new combinations Although they do tend to make a few to many Water/Ice type heck Water it's self is over represented.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on February 27, 2007, 10:17:11 pm
also, all the new pokemon are ugly. All of them. They used to be cute now they're just freaks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on February 27, 2007, 11:29:07 pm
It's about finding new combinations Although they do tend to make a few to many Water/Ice type heck Water it's self is over represented.
maybe it simply has to do with the fact that there is so much more ocean than land, so water pokemon are more abundant. I'm not sure whether they thought of it like that though. The sapphire and ruby versions kind of have to do with that don't they? Maybe I'm totally wrong  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 28, 2007, 04:27:26 am
It's about finding new combinations Although they do tend to make a few to many Water/Ice type heck Water it's self is over represented.
maybe it simply has to do with the fact that there is so much more ocean than land, so water pokemon are more abundant. I'm not sure whether they thought of it like that though. The sapphire and ruby versions kind of have to do with that don't they? Maybe I'm totally wrong  :P
Well, using the real world as a model there should be more bug pokemon than anything else. There should also be a retardedly ridiculous number of bat pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 28, 2007, 09:30:44 am
Also there should be a region where everything is poison type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on February 28, 2007, 10:07:21 am
Well, using the real world as a model there should be more bug pokemon than anything else. There should also be a retardedly ridiculous number of bat pokemon.
ok, makes sense.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 28, 2007, 02:43:43 pm
Also there should be a region where everything is poison type.

Fourecks?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 28, 2007, 02:54:08 pm
Can't they just the 1 starter water type then maybe 1 or 2 new water types (Say one for each version) then just reuse some old favorites to catch. leave room to increase the weaker types.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 01, 2007, 09:59:09 am
Also there should be a region where everything is poison type.

Fourecks?

Indeed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on March 01, 2007, 03:28:22 pm
Alright, they're adding new pokemon, right? They're not changing any out? I liked the original 150 (152, depending on how you look at it).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on March 01, 2007, 03:48:49 pm
Yeah, all of the old ones are still there.

In fact, almost all of the old ones are obtainable in D/P without even having to transfer from your old games. Apart from the starters and legendaries, of course.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: beastt on March 02, 2007, 08:59:55 am
http://www.serebii.net/diamondpearl/

shows ALOT of the new pokemon, just thought you might want to know
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Celdur on March 02, 2007, 10:19:35 am
so many pages of pokemon X_X i gave up on that game a long time ago
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 08, 2007, 07:39:53 am
Check this out! :D

(http://kotaku.com/assets/resources/2007/03/pokemonnori.jpg)

You can now put Pokemon seaweed shapes on your favorite rice rolls and sushi.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 08, 2007, 08:08:27 am
http://archive.gamespy.com/comics/kovalic/pokethulhu/
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 12, 2007, 07:51:20 pm
I pre-ordered Diamond today. Apparently a lot of people are getting it. I'm not too crazy about the bonus edition stylus they're going to give me but I guess it will come in handy being that my new DS lite didn't come with a spare.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on March 13, 2007, 10:24:25 am
Finally pre-ordered it today as well.  As much as I like to complain about the game, I know I'll still have a hell of a lot of fun playing it, even if it is essentially the same thing I've played through three times previously.

And as crappy as some of the new names are, I have to say, there are a few I really like.  Staraptor and Magmortar are pretty cool, and the final evolution of the Penguin starter is Empoleon.  Perhaps the best name for anything, ever.


(http://pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/395.png)
All bow before the mighty Empoleon!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 13, 2007, 10:31:52 am
Empoleon?

If someone had come up with that earlier, we'd all be french by now. That's how good it is.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on March 18, 2007, 06:53:48 pm
I'm naming my starter penguin Linux, for obvious reasons. ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on March 19, 2007, 03:44:03 pm
Mine will be called "SSJ4 Pingu". That is of course when it finally gets released in the UK two years from now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Thargor on March 20, 2007, 09:48:30 am
Mine will be called "SSJ4 Pingu". That is of course when it finally gets released in the UK two years from now.

Thankfully due to the DS's lack of region encoding you can enjoy the American version when it comes out  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on March 20, 2007, 05:49:53 pm
I'm naming my starter penguin Linux, for obvious reasons. ;)

...why not Tux?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on March 20, 2007, 06:17:58 pm
Thankfully due to the DS's lack of region encoding you can enjoy the American version when it comes out  :P

Nope. Nintendo have blockaded imports from any region.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 20, 2007, 06:36:07 pm
Send Qui-gon and Obi-Wan. Its not like the Viceroy is that subtle a caricature  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kcronos on March 20, 2007, 07:34:44 pm
I think that this game looks interesting...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on March 20, 2007, 09:12:06 pm
Send Qui-gon and Obi-Wan. Its not like the Viceroy is that subtle a caricature  :P

You horrid little man, you did NOT just go there. Dropping EP1 bombs? For shame, Krakow. For shame.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on March 21, 2007, 02:22:44 am
Thankfully due to the DS's lack of region encoding you can enjoy the American version when it comes out  :P

Nope. Nintendo have blockaded imports from any region.

They don't like stores doing it, but there's really nothing they can do about websites, especially if you're buying from a foriegn website.
www.videogamesplus.ca would be the one I recommend.  I'm in the UK and recently pre-ordered from there, probably won't get it until a week or so the release date, but that's still well before we'll see it released in this country and it's cheaper too.

Just watch out for your GBA games, if you have PAL GBA games and NTSC Diamond/Pearl they won't work together.  Luckily, I imported all my GBA games too.  ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on March 27, 2007, 06:58:19 am
Companies which stop imports from American fail to grasp that releasing a game 6-18 f***ing months later might be the cause of such actions.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 09:33:23 am
Blame those darn localization teams for taking too long.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Celdur on March 27, 2007, 09:41:30 am
wtf 43 pages of pokemon  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 09:52:46 am
Ever since June 16th of last year, heck yes...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on March 27, 2007, 10:29:06 am
Blame those darn localization teams for taking too long.
Yes because translating English (US) to English (UK) must tax the sharpest of minds, especially when most don't even change the spelling.
I mean COME ON! the DS is region-less there is no logical reason for we in the UK having to wait so damned long for a game already out in the US.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 27, 2007, 10:36:58 am
Yes because translating English (US) to English (UK) must tax the sharpest of minds, especially when most don't even change the spelling.
Ironic, isn't it? :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 27, 2007, 11:24:41 am
It's why I love Another Code. Even though the main character's from Seattle, all of the speech and other text is in UK English. It's possibly the only Japanese game where I've ever seen the word "colour" spelled correctly and it's the reason why I love the DS.

I'll just import Pokémon Pearl. It's not like Pokémon games are famous for their narrative. That, and Nintendo won't bother fixing the spelling anyway so, unless I want to play it in French for some reason, there's no point in waiting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 27, 2007, 11:25:51 am
Yes because translating English (US) to English (UK) must tax the sharpest of minds, especially when most don't even change the spelling.
Ironic, isn't it? :)
(http://ssfuturama.wz.cz/info/nations/persons/beelzebot.jpg)

Only if you're this guy  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lazerbyte on April 06, 2007, 02:36:13 pm
I just got the new Nintendo Power and they have a lot about Pokemon in it!

Also my local EB had a demo of Pearl and I got to play it and I have to say the animations are much better and I really enjoy what I was able to play!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 06, 2007, 04:26:30 pm
Those folks at EB are really pushing me to reserve the guide book for it. They even gave me an incintive Pokemon Fan magazine. Ooooooooooookkkkkkkkkk... :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 07, 2007, 10:52:03 am
I just got the new Nintendo Power and they have a lot about Pokemon in it!

Also my local EB had a demo of Pearl and I got to play it and I have to say the animations are much better and I really enjoy what I was able to play!

How are the Pokemon animations when they're sent into battle?  I haven't really seen much of them at all.  The ones they had in Emerald were awful, I don't see why they even bothered, they just used morphed sprites.  Most of them just bounced up and down unrealistically, it looked really odd with guys like Charizard and Venusaur.  And let us not forget the worst of them all - Blaziken, it looked like he was throwing up.

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/WinterSnowblind/image.gif)

Seriously, what the hell is with the jittering and all?  I hope they've improved the quality in Diamond and Pearl.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: bwl2 on April 13, 2007, 01:54:43 pm
Well, 9 more days of waiting here in the states. Lets see if it was worth the wait. Havent played any demos, and the Nintendo Power coverage sucked if you ask me. I was hoping that the issue where Poke'mon was on the cover would at least have a guide through the first gym. I like to understand how the gameplay is going to flow, even if I have played this type of game countless times before.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: beastt on April 13, 2007, 03:34:00 pm
Anyone happen to know the UK release date?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 13, 2007, 03:39:26 pm
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: beastt on April 13, 2007, 03:44:10 pm
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DIES* *ASPLODES* DIES AGAIN* CURSE YOU "AMERICAN LANGUAGE"
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 13, 2007, 03:48:59 pm
Well, if you want to wait for a European release you can at least play in French instead. It might be less painful.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on April 13, 2007, 06:12:21 pm
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
hate to break it to you, but they probably won't even do that.....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 13, 2007, 06:21:31 pm
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
hate to break it to you, but they probably won't even do that.....

Beep Beep. Syntax error: Double Negative. Beep.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on April 14, 2007, 03:42:31 am
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
hate to break it to you, but they probably won't even do that.....

Beep Beep. Syntax error: Double Negative. Beep.
Where? the only word with a negative meaning in that is won't
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 14, 2007, 03:49:33 am
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
hate to break it to you, but they probably won't even do that.....

Beep Beep. Syntax error: Double Negative. Beep.
Where? the only word with a negative meaning in that is won't

Really?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on April 14, 2007, 06:28:45 am
There is none.

I'm going to try and pick up an import copy. I'm not going to wait a year for them just to not change "color" to "colour."
hate to break it to you, but they probably won't even do that.....

Beep Beep. Syntax error: Double Negative. Beep.
Where? the only word with a negative meaning in that is won't

Really?
Curses and drat!

Damn you speed reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 18, 2007, 07:46:59 am
Less than a week to go now.  Unfortunately, as I'm in the UK, I won't get the game until around May 4th, which just so happens to be when my exams start, so sadly I won't get the chance to play very much for the next week or so.

I plan on starting with Piplup, and I have a friend who's taking Turtwig.  So if anyone's taking Chimcharr, if you could breed one to trade to me, it would be much appreciated.   :)  I have to work on re-completing my Pokedex, I have one of every single species, including all of the Unown lined up in my boxes in Emerald, it's going to take months to transfer them all over, I'm thinking it will probably be easier to just catch and re-train most of them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 18, 2007, 08:27:05 am
turtwig and his evolutions is SO much cooler in comperization to the other starters and evolutions of them. just look at it: its a giant turtle with trees and spikes. its so cool!

also, the evolutions of older pokemon look cool and strong too! increadible! i cant wait for the new pokemon! ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 18, 2007, 09:05:07 am
I played a demo in a Gamestop, and now I'm excited for this game. A shame I'll have to wait until finals are over to get to play it. Curse college!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 19, 2007, 11:13:19 pm
US: April 22, 2007
Japan: September 28, 2006
Europe: June 1, 2007

if these release dates are right, i'm gonna kill them all >:(

why does bloody Europe has to wait a whole month? why? what did we do wrong?  :o
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 20, 2007, 04:14:07 am
I suspect Australia will get the EU release I hope not I'll check next week but I get the feeling I already lucked out.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 20, 2007, 10:52:43 am
Having to wait a month is pretty good, previously we've been left waiting over sixth months.  They do at least seem to have learned that if they don't release the games sooner over here, everyone is just going to import.  I remember last year, getting Pokemon Emerald back in May, finishing it, getting bored and putting it away, going back to it, getting bored, and then noticed that it wasn't even released here in the UK until October.  That's pretty damn bad.

Anyway, I just got an email from the site I'm importing from, and they said they've begun to ship the orders, so I should have it by Thursday/Friday next week.  A little better than expected, but I still have exams in the way.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 20, 2007, 02:15:52 pm
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2727

Well.... I'll at lest be getting it  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on April 20, 2007, 06:03:11 pm
Well I'm psyched for it. I quit World of Warcraft again (Need to concentrate on school more) and just realized the other day I'm less then a week from this game releasing.

Getting Pearl. Will love it. I'm surprised how many people at school like it. These people are around my age (16,17,18), and I thought I was a loser getting it. So many people are really hyped for this game. Two of them are buying a DS just for this game. Thats insane.

Grammar/spelling bad today. Warcraft Withdrawel Syndrome
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 20, 2007, 06:15:05 pm
I think the pendulum is swinging back into Pokemon's favor. I wasn't surprised when my best friend said he wanted the game, but that his older brother and his girlfriend wanted it really surprised me. Both of them and I are in college, and my friend will be next year.

Maybe people are just recognizing it as a good game again. I'm not about to get swept up in cards or the TV show like I did when it first came out, but the game? It just looks solid.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 20, 2007, 06:34:27 pm
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2727

Well.... I'll at lest be getting it  :-\

You realize that their opinion is only a fraction of who is actually getting it. C'mon, they either voted no because of; 1: They're a bunch of Anti-Pokemon haters. Or 2: They're too afraid to admit they want the game since Pokemon are considered "uncool." After listening in on the outside world this game is in considerabe popular interest.

People tend to judge how lame Pokemon are because of the crappy anime 4Kids tends to mutilate.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lazerbyte on April 21, 2007, 05:48:31 am
I am purchasing both and my partner is going to buy the headsets.

Cartoonnetwork last night had the new Pokemon Diamond and Pearl cartoon and it was actually pretty good!  The new pokemon are pretty interesting and I cannot wait to play the game!

Pokemon is a good game and it is not just a KIDDIE game like people say as it requires skill to battle lthe different pokemon and learn which pokemon is better against another one and what moves to learn. 

I am not afraid to say I LOVE POKEMON and I'm a 39 yrs old!! :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on April 21, 2007, 01:44:48 pm
Does anyone know whether or not you need to reserve a game beforehand? I don't feel like reserving anything, but I don't know if they'll  have enough. Think I'll be able to get it on the day it comes out?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 21, 2007, 02:36:59 pm
Most likely yes, among the uninformed it's still unpopular.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 21, 2007, 04:31:55 pm
It seems like at the very least, the first wave of games shipped will be sold out. When I was at the Gamestop where I played the demo, I asked an employee when it would be out, and they said the 22nd, but that I should probably reserve it if I wanted to get it then.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: darkstar on April 21, 2007, 04:55:55 pm
I know for a fact at my local gamestop the diamond version preorders are completely filled up and the pearl are close to being full.

Personally I preordered diamond a month ago so I'll get mine tomarrow with no difficulty.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 21, 2007, 11:17:46 pm
Darkstar is the devil.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 22, 2007, 01:09:50 am
From what I've been hearing, a lot of stores in America have been selling the game since Friday, and the site I imported from did ship the game on Friday as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 22, 2007, 01:42:18 am
Which site was that? Im importing as well, but apparently i'm not getting it until some days later..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Piloteer on April 22, 2007, 01:23:53 pm
I think the pendulum is swinging back into Pokemon's favor. I wasn't surprised when my best friend said he wanted the game, but that his older brother and his girlfriend wanted it really surprised me. Both of them and I are in college, and my friend will be next year.

Maybe people are just recognizing it as a good game again. I'm not about to get swept up in cards or the TV show like I did when it first came out, but the game? It just looks solid.

Hey, same here! It seems that a lot of people who were fans of the original Pokemon for the GBC are now getting sucked back in. I know that I was a huge fan of Pokemon Red, but ever since then I've fallen out of the loop with all of the GBA releases. Yet, I'm super excited for this one, and it'll be my first Pokemon game in over 8 years. I can't wait to jump back in!

I think that with this being the first true Pokemon game in a few years, having Wi-Fi play, and being on the insanely popular DS, people are warming up to the game again. Not to mentinon the whole Pokemon craze, like you said, isn't so commercialized anymore.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 22, 2007, 02:50:27 pm
Which site was that? Im importing as well, but apparently i'm not getting it until some days later..

www.videogamesplus.ca
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 22, 2007, 03:29:03 pm
Just got it today. Too busy playing it. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on April 22, 2007, 05:00:31 pm
They ran out of pearl. So I had to get diamond... heh.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 22, 2007, 05:14:09 pm
I'llhave to stop by the EB today find out if Australia got the US release or the EU one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 22, 2007, 07:30:45 pm
Ok, we now need a friend code sticky for this game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 22, 2007, 08:23:18 pm
Got it! My friend and I found both diamond and pearl easily. We started off by trading all the starters around so we have all of them, but I'm only using one, and I'll raise the others later, just to get them into my pokedex. He's using his like normal pokemon, which to me just seems a little too easy, since half the fun of facing gym leaders is trying to scrounge up pokemon who are strong against that type.

It's pretty standard stuff so far. It's getting to the point where they should just drop color labels, and start using years instead. They barely even bother telling you the storyline this time. "There are these things called pokemon. Here's a pokedex. Go start your adventure! Bye!" Not that I really care, though. I'm already running into a pretty good mix of old and new pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 22, 2007, 08:39:05 pm
That is the story basically they don't want to give character background because people want to role play other than that it's win the Pokemon league and catch'em all. As for Australia my lunch break visit to EB seems to suggest we got the EU release which I guess means it gives me time to finish the huge list of games i currently have to get through. The pain though is by the time we get this all of you will have trained you Pokemon to the point they have the right combination of move sets and everything and by the time we get there I imagine all of you will be tired of it all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 22, 2007, 08:46:23 pm
Well don't worry. You can play amongst yourselves. And when you start feeling like you've got some good pokemon, we'll go wipe the dust off of our games, and put you in your place.  ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 22, 2007, 09:02:42 pm
I wouldn't mind the wait if the only people I could compete agaisnt were locals but staggering the release on a world wide scale does give an unfair advantage. Even if they make the battle of pokemon all sitting on Level 50 a team of pokes with tack and tail whip are no match for those who bring earthquake tot he table.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lazerbyte on April 22, 2007, 10:04:20 pm
My partner and I played Pokemon all afternoon as our Gamestop opened up at 8am and we were like 2nd in line!!  We really enjoyed playing it espeically the wi fi part!

This is by far the BEST pokemon game!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 22, 2007, 10:27:39 pm
I guess the best thing is with wifi internet access the full potential of this game can be realized.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 23, 2007, 07:42:02 am
The frined code system still stinks though...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 07:47:16 am
i envy you all >:( and my friend. he has a 'ds-download-n-play' thingy on his ds, so he downloads pokemon and puts it on a memory card. now he has 4 badges and i envy him so much.... :-\ :'( :'( :'(
i wanna play pokemon!  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 23, 2007, 08:08:54 am
I have a friend who does a similar thing, and... well, flashcarding Diamond and Pearl are not quite as illustrious as you might think. For a start, the rom BARELY runs, and when it does it runs poorly. Jerky animation, lockups and crashes, inability to access certain features, self-deleting saves, etc. It appears Nintendo have thrown in a ton of almost constant hardware/security checks to make sure both the cart and the ds are the real deal. If they fail, the game crashes and deletes any saved data.

Simply put, they're guarding their cash cows pretty damn well from emulation. Flash carding it isn't something you should really envy.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 08:10:14 am
crashing, deleting files or not, he IS playing the game. i have to wait for a very long time... :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 23, 2007, 08:12:15 am
Frankly i'd barely class it as playing if the progress is impaired so stringently. It's like a demo, only a really erratic demo.

Have you considered importing, if you're not in the US?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 08:13:33 am
 :-\ do you need a credit card for importing? if so, importing will be no option...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 23, 2007, 08:14:08 am
Ask your parents?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 08:16:27 am
thats a deathwish.... :-\ well, okay, not really a deathwish, but small chance....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on April 23, 2007, 08:28:47 am
So, has it come out in canada yet? I wants it...

And convinced my friend that pearl would somehow be enhanced by his pink ds, so that he wouldn't buy diamond, which has a cooler legendary that I wanna get first. How's that for a run-on sentence?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 08:35:51 am
why do you all wat Diamond? i think pearl's legendary pokemon is way more cooler! :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 23, 2007, 08:41:50 am
I thought Pearl's was cooler, too, but I still ended up with diamond because my friend's brother got diamond, and his girlfriend go pearl, so it kind of makes a web of people with different versions on the sole condition that I have diamond and he has pearl.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on April 23, 2007, 08:48:26 am
I don't like the color pink that much.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 23, 2007, 08:53:28 am
It's lilac, not pink.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 23, 2007, 09:07:37 am
I know a friend who got pearl so I got diamond.

Anyways, has anyone managed to find out their friend codes?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 23, 2007, 09:19:28 am
:-\ do you need a credit card for importing? if so, importing will be no option...

All you need is a debit card, do you have a bank account? Because if so you should be able to get one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 09:31:49 am
:-\ do you need a credit card for importing? if so, importing will be no option...

All you need is a debit card, do you have a bank account? Because if so you should be able to get one.

yeah, i have a bank account, so importing COULD be an option. but when do you think its gonna get released in europe?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 23, 2007, 09:42:41 am
June the first. And I'm gonna ask someone to write a large chunk of info about the game so far.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 23, 2007, 09:45:21 am
June the first. And I'm gonna ask someone to write a large chunk of info about the game so far.

OMG SAME
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on April 23, 2007, 06:17:25 pm
:-\ do you need a credit card for importing? if so, importing will be no option...

All you need is a debit card, do you have a bank account? Because if so you should be able to get one.

Have to be 18 to get one in the US.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 23, 2007, 07:38:55 pm
Also I hear copies shipped from the stats wont be compatible with my copy of Ruby not sure if it's true but I rather wait. Plus my bank doesn't offer a debit card from some stupid reason.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 23, 2007, 07:53:37 pm
The pal park won't be compatible. It's region blocked - a US diamond/pearl cart won't work with a EU ruby/sapphire/emerald cart and vice versa. Fortunatley, my sapphire cart is ALSO imported...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 24, 2007, 06:15:24 am
Well, I got the game today, which is pretty cool, I didn't expect it this early.  I've been playing for three hours straight, but I really need to stop and get some work done now.  I'm really impressed with the game so far, I only just got my first badge, it definetely seems like the biggest game so far, and it has all the best features back from Gold and Silver.  I'm very happy.

According to some people on Gamefaqs, Pal Park works fine between European and American copies.  I haven't tried myself, so I wouldn't take that as 100% confirmed, but it we'll see.

I also have to point out just how great the Global Trade Center is, I just tried it out now, looking for a Chimchar, as it's the one starter I don't have, and within two minutes someone sent me one for my Bidoof, AND it had Pokérus.  Great to see there are some nice people out there willing to help others out, I hope it stays that way after the excitement dies down.

Once I trade over all my GBA Pokemon, I'll have all the starters from the previous games, along with just about any other type of Pokemon, exluding Legendaries, if anyone here needs any of them.  I'm also gonna play through XD on the Gamecube again soon, to try and get a spare Lugia, but I think I'll be holding him off for a special trade, I can't just give him away for nothing.   :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 24, 2007, 07:10:24 am
(http://forum.voetbalzone.nl/images/smilies/th_hyper.gif) oh boy oh boy! i cant wait to play it! (http://forum.voetbalzone.nl/images/smilies/th_hyper.gif)
i have to say THIS IS the game i'm going to buy my nintendo ds for.
question: have you seen any DS/pokemon combi packs?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 24, 2007, 07:13:11 am
This sucks :| i cant get it for a few days till i get paid. i hate bein broke. im jus wonderin if this game is gona screw over my Alevels... can see revision time gettin cut down dramatically. ANWYAY. to all those that have it, simple question, is it worth it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 24, 2007, 07:37:18 am
I've had a LOT less time to play than I would like (Why the hell did they release it a week before finals? Bah!), but so far, I can say that I'm definitely going to get my money's worth. Considering how little time I've invested, how little of the game I've seen, and yet how much fun I've had with it, it just wouldn't make sense if it ended up not being worth it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 24, 2007, 07:49:28 am
DEVOID! DEVOID! have you seen a DS/pokemon combi pack in the store? ???
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 24, 2007, 08:13:48 am
I honestly didn't check. We went straight to the DS games section (which has been expanded at Fry's, w00t for Nintendo shelf space for once), scooped up the games, and went right out the door.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 24, 2007, 08:22:20 am
if there is no combi pack.... :'( i'll have to buy them separate....

another question: how do you register? do you need a unique name for that?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 24, 2007, 09:30:51 am
According to this Gamespot thread, PAL is region free.

http://www.gamespot.com/ds/rpg/pokemondiamond/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-34896405&pid=925601
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 24, 2007, 10:59:05 am
I also have to point out just how great the Global Trade Center is, I just tried it out now, looking for a Chimchar, as it's the one starter I don't have, and within two minutes someone sent me one for my Bidoof, AND it had Pokérus.

Probably hax.. can't complain, but still.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 24, 2007, 11:17:45 am
According to the GS boards, everyone is having this experience. There are two theories: Really nice Japanese players who bred a ton of starters, or Nintendo is putting this pokemon out as gifts.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Lazerbyte on April 25, 2007, 10:42:47 am
So far I love Pokemon Pearl.  I got both and gave one to my partner and he really likes it too!

The headset works great playing the WiFi part.  I haven't really had a chance to play it much since the first day but I plan to play some tonight and get my second badge!

My friend code is posted on the pokemon friend code post so if you are interested in battling let me know just know that I am an expert in psyhic pokemon and ghost pokemon :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 25, 2007, 10:52:17 am
*goes crying to the naughtycorner* :'( :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 25, 2007, 02:08:47 pm
This is annoying. i want it :( jus wondering if anyone knows whether i can access the american wifi/global trade centre in england? otherwise seems pointless importing it
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 25, 2007, 04:22:52 pm
lol, I didn't think about pre-ordering it.

Now I have to wait for the next shipment. By then all of you will be so powerful it will be pointless to play  :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 25, 2007, 04:30:46 pm
I'm about to get my 3rd badge. ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on April 25, 2007, 04:40:09 pm
In case anyone is still wondering about my escapades, I am pleased to inform you that I did in fact get Pokemon Diamond. I've been playing it a lot and now have 5 Gym Badges, soon to be 6. I caught quite a bit of pokemon too, but for now I'm getting my badges. I haven't tried the GTC yet, but am bound to sooner or later. And that's about it. If my router works, I'll post up my friend code.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 25, 2007, 05:00:49 pm
This news of of PAL park for US to UK versions is great I might import now seeing the AU release is June 21st!!! *angry*
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on April 25, 2007, 09:49:43 pm
I got Diamond version on Sunday, and after about 10 hours of light playing (doing other stuff at the same time) I have 2 badges. I like it so far, can't wait to try the Wi-Fi stuff.

Oh, and Buizel is my new favorite pokemon. Soo cute!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 25, 2007, 10:14:11 pm
W00t, Gamefly shipped it out. So I should get it this week.

Anyway, as for voice chat, is there a way to use it with out buying the head set?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 25, 2007, 10:17:54 pm
I've used it without a headset. You can speak into it normaly and the sound quality is suprisingly decent.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 25, 2007, 10:18:50 pm
i cant take this any longer! i have to wait! cant import! bwhoehoehoe!!!! :'( :'( by the time i get it, you guys have pokemon at level 100 :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 26, 2007, 12:19:47 am
k, its gd news bout the PAL park thing is good. but i wana know if i can play everyone on the american wi-fi network while in england (which doesnt have one....) c

an anyone help me or point me in the right direction?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 26, 2007, 01:16:16 am
The wifi network is global, I put an onix up for trade on the GTS and got an Abra back from someone in japan.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 26, 2007, 05:27:36 am
whee! i just found out i still have celebi on my pokemon gold! whohoooo! ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 26, 2007, 05:40:51 am
What good is that? You can't transfer from anything pre-dating ruby/sapphire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 26, 2007, 05:51:01 am
*stab stab* >:(

edit:

really, i cant take this any longer. you are all having fun and playing pokemon, and i cant. i have to wait.
i wont take this and i'm going to do the most evil thing on this entire planet:
i'm going to Emulate the blasted thing.....

EDIT EDIT: yay its working!

EDIT EDIT EDIT: no, this is wrong. i cant do this. its ruining the experience it is on a ds. no i wont do it!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 26, 2007, 07:06:23 am
Anyone interested... i've got a Graveler i'd like to evolve. Anyone got any similar things going on, so we could do a mutual swap back and forth to evolve em?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 26, 2007, 08:48:30 am
woooooo. the only reason i aint considered pre ording it is cos i wudn people able to play online.... erm, sorry 2 keep goin on about it, but how did u get online? jus in a wireless area? my house has a wirelsss router for example.... what would i have to do?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 26, 2007, 09:50:46 am
Is there a "wanted" system for wi-fi trading as well?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 26, 2007, 12:19:12 pm
Is there a "wanted" system for wi-fi trading as well?

That would be cool, like the bark mode in Nintedogs.

Just walk around with your DS in sleep mode

(Not sure if this is a feature, but would be cool)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 26, 2007, 12:27:43 pm
No I mean like in wifi you say "I will trade a [Pokémon] for a [Pokémon]" and wait a while, when somebody responds you trade with them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 26, 2007, 02:00:04 pm
No I mean like in wifi you say "I will trade a [Pokémon] for a [Pokémon]" and wait a while, when somebody responds you trade with them.

That's what the Global Trade System is.  You list the Pokemon you're looking for, and what gender, level, etc you want it to be, and then just leave it for someone to reply.  You don't need friend codes for this, but you can't communicate with anyone through it.  It does seem to be rather effective at the moment though, like I mentioned before, I was able to get a Chimchar within minutes.

I'm really loving the game so far, it's definetely the biggest game by far.  They brought back a lot of great features from the older games, and some really cool new ones I never even knew about.  I'am a little disapointed they went with the "classic" Pokedex, over the far improved encylopedia style we saw in Fire Red/Leaf Green.  But all things considered, there's very little to complain about.

Oh, and while I was exploring Iron Mountain, I came across a shining Graveller.   :)
Has anyone else seen any rare coloured Pokemon yet?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 26, 2007, 02:05:19 pm
I've never even ran into a shiny in any pokemon game ever.

So, has anyone had a live chat over wifi yet?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 26, 2007, 02:25:03 pm
Ain't chatted, no.. used the GTS some, though. Got me an abra in return for an onix. The vast majority of trades on there are completley ridiculous though. Like.. they offer a level 20 Wooper in return for a level 100 Palkia ridiculous.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 26, 2007, 06:31:21 pm
I've never even ran into a shiny in any pokemon game ever.

So, has anyone had a live chat over wifi yet?

the only shiny Poke I ever saw was a purple Krabby in Gold... unfortunately I didnt have any pokeprisons to catch it in and the whole encounter was wasted. What i really want is a shiny Trapinch.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on April 26, 2007, 09:26:22 pm
I have NEVER run into a shiny pokemon and I've beaten pretty much every game since red version...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 26, 2007, 10:15:02 pm
If anyone is interested (especially you Pearl players) I have 2 extra diamond exclusive cranidos' revived from skull fossils. They all come out as lvl. 20 so don't complain about me rasing it for you. In return, I would like the Pearl equivalent fossil pokemon. I forgot which one it is. I prefer we trade in the wi-fi club so no one nabs it from the GTS. Plus I'm not in the condition to go all the way back to Jubilife City (I don't have Fly yet...)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 26, 2007, 10:39:17 pm
Thats it I'm looking to import now I don't care anymore.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 26, 2007, 10:57:15 pm
Thats it I'm looking to import now I don't care anymore.

way to go cobra! do it!!!! ;)

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 26, 2007, 11:16:07 pm
My friend encountered and captured a shiny Bidoof really early on. I haven't seen one yet, though.

Man, this game is going to be LONG. Gloriously long. I am 12 hours in and I'm only on my way to the third city.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 26, 2007, 11:43:17 pm
Man, I want to trade/battle with you guys. My games not here yet though

I hope you guys are still willing to trade normally. I wouldn't say I care for video game monster, but I would like to send my pokemon to someone I some what know. Then you could look on it's tag and think of me  :)

(If they still have the system that tells you where your pokemon came from)

[edit]

The talk about sent me off looking for an old site that had the original pokemon and the shiny ones next to it (like a black charazard)

Anyway, I found the wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiny_Pok%C3%A9mon)

And it reminded me that I have a red Gyarados. I'm not sure which version, but I'm sure I have one.

I think I got it through part of the story though. Anyone remember which version? I might be able to transfer it to diamond.

[edit, edit]

Quote
although you will not
be able to use any of the Pal Park features until after you acquire the
National Dex after completing the game.

Ah man! That sucks.  :'(

[edit, edit, edit]


Reading some more guides (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/45138) from GameFAQs, I read this:


possible spoilers











Quote
As you enter the Pal Park, if you have already gotten the National Dex,
Professor Oak will be inside and will tell you that you can now transfer
Pokemon from Kanto or Hoenn into the Pal Park. He'll also give you the
Pokeradar Counter for your Poketch, which shows you a ranking of the top 3
Pokemon that you've seen the most of by using the Pokeradar. He also says
something about Eterna City, and then leaves.

Now, by transferring Pokemon from your GBA games, you are able to catch the
transferred Pokemon inside of the Pal Park. You can transfer up to 6 Pokemon
per GBA game every 24 hours into the Pal Park (and, for those of you who like
to time jump and set the Nintendo DS clock ahead, doing that will make you
wait another 24 hours).

To do this, insert a a copy of Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, FireRed, or
LeafGreen into the GBA slot of your Nintendo DS. On the menu screen (Continue,
New Game, Settings...), there should be a new option (it's the third option)
for you to select. Select this option, and you will be able to choose 6
Pokemon from your GBA game by using the stylus to select them. The selected
Pokemon cannot have any HM moves learned, otherwise you will not be able to
transfer them, so be sure to make use of the version's Move Deleter before
attempting this.

After you have selected your 6 Pokemon, you will be asked if you want to
permanently transfer the Pokemon from the GBA game to your Diamond or Pearl
version. THE POKEMON WILL BE GONE FOREVER IN YOUR GBA GAME IF YOU DO THIS!
Upon answering yes via stylus, you will be asked one more time for
confirmation, and if you say yes again, the Pokemon will be transferred into
the Pal Park.

Now, load up your save, and talk to the technician at the gate of the Pal Park
and he'll ask if you want to try and catch the Pokemon that you transferred
over. Agree, and you'll be given 6 Park Balls to catch the Pokemon inside of
the Pal Park. If you are transferring any Water-type Pokemon, it is
recommended that you keep a Pokemon with Surf in your party.

The Pal Park is a pretty simple place; there are patches of grass scattered
about. The 6 Pokemon that you transferred will be hiding inside of the tall
grass and on the water, and your job is to track all of them down. You might
also only have a limited amount of time to do this (although I have yet to run
out of time, I have heard that there is a time limit). Certain Pokemon will
favor certain parts of the Pal Park and will be more likely to be found in
those areas. For instance, Rock-type Pokemon will be more commonly encountered
in the northeastern part of the Pal Park, in the rocky area, and Bug-type
Pokemon will be easier to find in the foresty northwestern area.

After catching all 6 transferred Pokemon, you will be escorted out of the Pal
Park and will be judged based on several factors, one of which being how
quickly you caught the Pokemon. Depending on how well you did, you will
receive an item (I always got berries). Answer Yes to the question, and your
newly-transferred Pokemon will be sent to your PC.

All Pokemon that you transfer retain all of their stats, moves, held items, OT
and ID No., gender, nickname, etc. Pretty much, exactly like they were in the
GBA game. (Actually, I'm not sure on this, but there is a chance that certain
Pokemon's abilities may change when transferred, due to the addition of new
abilities for certain Pokemon.)


Wait.... what does this mean? Is it just a searching game? Or do you have to battle your old pokemon? does this mean if you kill it, it's gone forever!?  :o

From the sounds of it, I think it's just a searching game.
You find the pokemon, throw the ball, and your done.

.... or at lest I hope so  :-\  :'(









/possible spoilers


PS

Some one post so I can stop editing this one, thanks  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 27, 2007, 12:39:07 am
kinda explains to me why the bought out leafgreen and firered.... other wise they wudn of had any of the 1st generation pokemon to transfer except those that appear in the other games.

i think im gona have to import this. anyone know any good, reliable sites?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 27, 2007, 04:04:20 am
Same also looking for a reliable site that ships to Australia.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 27, 2007, 05:26:20 am
A word on shinys.. shinys were never in red/blue/yellow. They didn't have that system in place then.

They first appeared in Gold/Silver, most notably in the form of the red gyarados. Since those games, shinys I have caught:
- Gyarados (oblitagory)
- Suicune (Yes. My suicune on silver was actually SHINY. Unbelievable luck or what?)
- Spinda (Perhaps not so impressive..)

I also recall seeing a shiny Teddiursa once but I accidentally KO'd it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 27, 2007, 06:11:15 am
This was the site I was talking about. It's outdated since the new games are out, but at lest you could look at the pokemon that you will never see.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/frlgpokemonpicsshiny.html

(http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/pkfrlgsh006.png)

Yeah, I so want that, lol
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 27, 2007, 08:52:27 am
The site I use is serebii.net. The owner is the most narccicistic, self-praising, irritating bastard i've ever met, but the site is full of info.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 27, 2007, 10:01:05 am
You do not battle Pal Park pokemon. Upon entry of battle you automatically through a 100% capture ball.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 27, 2007, 12:40:48 pm
The site I use is serebii.net. The owner is the most narccicistic, self-praising, irritating bastard i've ever met, but the site is full of info.

Trurer words have never been spoken.

I also wish he would redesign the damn site.  Awful navigation, crappy banners, eye-bleeding colour scheme, crammed with pointless/outdated information, etc.  He doesn't actually update old pages, he just puts new information on top of the old, making things even more confusing.  And deactivating right click is very annoying, is he so paranoid he thinks everyone is going to steal "his" information/images?  It wouldn't be hard to get around that if you actually wanted to, it just stops us from being able to copy down attack/breeding information to print out.

It's a little sad that it's still the best Pokemon site out there.  I'd pay someone to make a better one.  Just, please, don't go with dark green and dark brown on black.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 27, 2007, 02:27:42 pm
Goon: "In return, we'll refrain from inflicting MASSIVE DAMAGE on you and your assistant."

When was this game translated?

I got Pearl today. Just walked in and picked up an import copy off the shelf.

I love living in a town with four videogame stores on the same street.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 27, 2007, 02:31:45 pm
I think I've seen a few video game joke references in this game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on April 27, 2007, 04:29:50 pm
I've seen Noob used a few times, the aformentioned "MASSIVE DAMAGE", a "A winner is you!", and at least one other I forget... oh yeah, owned was used once.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 27, 2007, 05:19:14 pm
words

Point 1) He starts nearly every update with "Well,". That irritates me. Pet hate, but still.

Point 2) He claims all news/sprites/everything is EXCLUSIVE to his site. If anyone else happens to get the same news/data on their site, then Serebii promptly launches into a capslock-infused tirade and sets his sycophant legions upon the offending site until they eventually have to parley with him because of the sheer irritation it causes. Never mind the fact that news/sprites about the same game are going to be the same anyway..

Point 3) Publishes nearly every hoax on the front page as gospel fact and then denies ever believing it when it's disproved.

Point 4) Updates every day in a blog-like fashion that he's too busy to update, complete with bowing-and-scraping levels of apologies, as if the world is ending because he didn't update.

Point 5) As stated, the site itself is horrifying. Godawful layout, heinous colouration, intentionally crippled functionality (ever heard of View Source Code, einstein?) , barely functional server/bandwidth, massive serebii logos everywhere.

Point 6) The forums are awful. No, seriously, they're absolutley terrifying. Worse than GameFAQs awful. Threads about.. certain misapplications of the human sex drive that will not be elaborated upon go completley unmoderated, and even protected by moderators.

Point 7) The chatroom, in addition to being both awful, AND locked down by insanely overzealous ban-bots, AND scripted to mass-praise/acknowledge serebii when he enters the room (I am NOT kidding on that, not even exaggerating), isn't even useful in any way due to people trash talking and shouting down anyone asking for help.

Need I go on? There's so many reasons hate him specifically, then many more to hate his site. I'd have used harsher words in my first post but i'm not sure there are any quite cutting enough that wouldn't get deleted. But the raw content on his site, yeah that's alright. I was planning to make my own kind of pokedex thing at one point, but never got around to it. You just know that modo would instantly start screaming about stolen info and all such as that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 27, 2007, 10:24:55 pm
I've seen Noob used a few times, the aformentioned "MASSIVE DAMAGE", a "A winner is you!", and at least one other I forget... oh yeah, owned was used once.

Yeah, owned. That made me giggle.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 28, 2007, 03:09:38 am
Still looking for good suggestion on a good site to use for having a game imported.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 28, 2007, 10:13:30 am
http://www.videogamesplus.ca/ is the site I used to import into the UK.  I believe they also ship to Australia.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 29, 2007, 02:07:14 am
wintersnowblind, i looked on the site you recommended, and there are multiple paying methods.
can you tell me what Cash/Money Order/Postal Order means? becoase if it means that i pay the postman who brings it to my home its good news!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 02:40:33 am
Money or postal order means u go to you local post office and ask for a money order it's like a check they ask you what the value of the money order is and what not then you mail the money order to the the people you are paying and they send you what you order.

I used a money order to for buying games and my Nintendo wifi adapter although I neevr had to do it for shipping overseas but should be the same they may need to make sure the currency conversions are ok not sure though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 29, 2007, 02:57:21 am
so, you give money to the post-office, they make a 'check'  kind of thing, they mail that to the people i am paying, and they send back what i order?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 03:45:34 am
Basically yeah.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 29, 2007, 03:55:54 am
;D that makes importing from that site for me a lot easier! i'll soon check the postal office for this kind of service.

thankyou cobra!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 04:16:11 am
Thats cool I'll be heading to the post office tomorrow as well I'm not sure how the currency conversion works for it but hopefully the post office will be half way helpful.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on April 29, 2007, 06:46:24 am
on the website theres an option to see prices how you want :) basically it costs about Ł22! and then Ł3 postage and packaging! not only are we gettin it b4 UK release date, but its cheaper than it would be. whoop.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on April 29, 2007, 07:00:20 am
yeah, when i buy a ds game here in the netherlands, it costs 45 euro's.  here, its around 36 euros! with shipping costs! :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on April 29, 2007, 08:28:11 am
I'm trying to rebuild my old team from my day of Pokemon Red. The star of my team was a traded vulpix (turned ninetales) and I want to get one on my newly purchased Pearl. I read on Seribii (sp) that Vulpix only appear in the wild if you have LG inserted into the DS. I don't have LG....

Anybody have a vulpix they'd like to trade? I don't care about level (lower would actually be better, so I can raise it my self)

Any nature that doesn't decrease special attack is fine.
(Adamant, Impish, Jolly and Careful decrease special attack)

I'm pretty early into the game, but I can offer up a Misdreavus, which I hear is pretty rare on other games.

I hope someone can help me out. I'd hate to buy LG just to get a vulpix.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 29, 2007, 10:43:56 am
Hmmmm and lemme get this straight, you can't use Pal Park from a European game to an American, right?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 29, 2007, 01:07:23 pm
I'm trying to rebuild my old team from my day of Pokemon Red. The star of my team was a traded vulpix (turned ninetales) and I want to get one on my newly purchased Pearl. I read on Seribii (sp) that Vulpix only appear in the wild if you have LG inserted into the DS. I don't have LG....

Anybody have a vulpix they'd like to trade? I don't care about level (lower would actually be better, so I can raise it my self)

Any nature that doesn't decrease special attack is fine.
(Adamant, Impish, Jolly and Careful decrease special attack)

I'm pretty early into the game, but I can offer up a Misdreavus, which I hear is pretty rare on other games.

I hope someone can help me out. I'd hate to buy LG just to get a vulpix.

I can trade you a Vulpix, but I'm not sure if it will let me trade it to you before you have the National Dex.  Does anyone know if that's possible?

Hmmmm and lemme get this straight, you can't use Pal Park from a European game to an American, right?

You can, as long as the games are in the same language, they work fine.  I just brought over a few Pokemon from my European Fire Red into my US Pearl.
But frankly, I don't see why this whole Pal Park thing is necessary.  The balls have a 100% catch rate, the area the Pokemon can appear in is very small, and the keep their original trainer and ID numbers.  What's the point in having to recatch them, why couldn't it just send them straight to your boxes?

Even better, they could have just included most of those Pokemon in the game to begin with.  One of the biggest problems with the game is the lack of variety, there's almost 500 Pokemon now, yet you see the same few constantly for most of the game, and only ONE fire Pokemon, besides the starter, and now that I've finished the elite four, I'm seeing Houndours, Vulpix, Magmars, Camerupts, etc, everywhere.  Small thing to complain about, I know, but they could have spaced them out a little better.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on April 29, 2007, 01:50:15 pm
Open your PAL pad and manually register me as a friend, then just PM me your friend code so I can add you. We should be able to trade then, even without the global dex.

My code is 0086 8841 7944

If anyone else wants to friend me, feel free to add my code to your game and just send me yours via PM
Might help my lotto payoffs a bit ^_^

<edit>

My Name in game is Pinstar as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 29, 2007, 01:58:43 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I want to order it from that site but my friggin' procrastinating father said next week, that means next month! It'll probably be out by then!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Person21 on April 29, 2007, 02:06:39 pm
You're lucky, my mum won't order it at all!!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 29, 2007, 02:22:33 pm
Strike that, just bought it! THANKS EBAY!

Question - When you use "Buy It Now" does the item immediately leave for delivery?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on April 29, 2007, 04:04:17 pm
Well, I beat the Final Four. So is that considered beating the game? If you're wondering it took me about 30 hours of playing time. Well, off to new regions!

When you use "Buy it Now," it means you don't have to do any betting on it and it's sold. Not sure how long it takes to get packed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 05:12:36 pm
I want to change my order on that site is there a way to cancel my original order?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on April 29, 2007, 06:04:17 pm
Side Note: How does one obtain one's own friend code?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 29, 2007, 06:34:46 pm
Side Note: How does one obtain one's own friend code?

When you get your Pal Pad turn it on, and it will give you th option of looking at your code.

Here's my code. (http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=9148.msg350124#msg350124)

PM me if you added me, so I can add you.


Open your PAL pad and manually register me as a friend, then just PM me your friend code so I can add you. We should be able to trade then, even without the global dex.

My code is 0086 8841 7944

If anyone else wants to friend me, feel free to add my code to your game and just send me yours via PM
Might help my lotto payoffs a bit ^_^

We need your name also when adding you

[Edit]

I want to trade, if anyone has any pokemon around level 15 that they don't want I'll take it  ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on April 29, 2007, 07:38:55 pm
If you're wondering it took me about 30 hours of playing time. Well, off to new regions!

di you just say that we can go to other regions after the final four? if so, which one(s)?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 29, 2007, 08:08:42 pm
Ok, I justed used the global trading thing.

It would be nice if they would let you search for what pokemon people want.
I was thinking about getting rid the psyduck my friend gave me, but I don't know what pokemon people want to trade for it.

The whole system is kind of screwy, Theres a guy in japan who will trade a magikarp for a lvl 50+ Ho-Ho... yeah -_-
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 08:13:53 pm
bah turns out the money orders given at post offices aren't cashable in canada they can give me something for the U.S. but thats no good have to go to the bank tomorrow see if i can get something there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 29, 2007, 09:26:03 pm
I think the reason for keeping it to 151 pokemon until the very end was to prevent someone from being overwhelmed early on. Honestly, even though I was a little disappointed to find out that I'd have to wait that long to see all of them, being able to progress through the game without stopping to catch a pokemon every 5 minutes is nice. As it is, I have a lot of trouble parting with the pokemon I caught really early on. I have a Staravia and a Luxio that I caught in the first hour of the game, for instance. I just can't replace them. I got a Cranidos and shelved a Machop I got from that first cave, and I just feel like I ditched a big investment for an experience sink.

My point is that for the "Get badges" part of the game, training freshly caught pokemon takes a long time, and it's more of a speed bump than anything. Once I finish the main story arch, though, the game switches to "Fill the pokedex" and "Make an uber-team," and during that time I intend to go through and catch every single pokemon. This is just me, though. Maybe you like collecting as you go, but for me it's a different game that I'm not playing yet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 29, 2007, 09:35:51 pm
Finished under 41 hours.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 09:41:40 pm
Yeah but you just catch what you want you don't need a fully trained team of 6 constantly at the start of the game you got your starter plus maybe 1 or 2 that you get early on maybe you will keep one of those maybe you will ditch them both you might have all 6 slots filled but only because you can't be bothered putting them in the PC yet when you catch the rest. Then when you find the exotic Pokemon that has the right element you are after to compliment you team you ditch a Pokemon that you haven't battled with at all soon you should have an uber team of 6.

Having more of each type available allows for more variety a fire type maybe vital to many teams and limiting the amount of fire types in game limits the possible team combinations as every man and there dog has a Firedon (fictional Pokemon i made up for point of argument). I enjoy trying to make a unique team but it's no fun when there are so few to choose for one element and 500 new water Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on April 29, 2007, 09:55:09 pm
I have 5 badges, 30 hours played and 4 pokemon I use and 2 that are HM tools.

I kind of play slowly, like doing other things while battling etc. I am still looking for the right ones to take the last 2 spots! Preferably something that looks cool and isn't weak to electric attacks... hmm...

By the way, what teams do you all have?

I have:

Empoleon
Luxray
Floatzel
Staraptor
Cutflash
Rocksmash

I was hoping that the egg would be something cool but when it hatched I was greatly disappointed...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 29, 2007, 10:14:06 pm
Just get the best ground type you can get your grubby mits on 100% resistance to electric attacks plus extra damage for Earthquake which mostly can be learnt without a TM.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 30, 2007, 01:03:12 am
If you're wondering it took me about 30 hours of playing time. Well, off to new regions!

di you just say that we can go to other regions after the final four? if so, which one(s)?

There's no other regions, but you get to go to the small island at the top right of the map.  There are a few towns there, a very large cave, a lot of the more exotic Pokemon, and the battle tower, etc.  The Sinnoh region itself is twice the size of Kanto and Johto put together, so I don't think there's much to complain about.

Currently, my team is Empoleon, Luxray, Lucario, Staraptor and two Bidoofs as HM slaves.  I'll probably put my newly caught Magby on there soon, and some form of Ground or Grass Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 30, 2007, 03:06:27 am
The GTS is a mixed blessing. The seek function is utterly worthless because the system is completley flooded with inane requests like wanting a Lv100 Jirachi in return for a Zubat. Bizzarely, a lot of these dumb requests are in japan...
Using Deposit though, is a godsend. Every time i've deposited something so far i've gotten what I wanted within the same day I put it up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 30, 2007, 08:19:09 am
Yeah, I think I screwed up with the GTS.

I put my psyduck in for a pikachu, just to see if I would get something.
Well, I did, but I'm partly regretting it.

For one, Psyduck is psychic, and two the pikachu has a Japaneses name -_-
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 30, 2007, 08:46:43 am
I've heard the Japanese name will change if it evolves.

My part has Grotle, Staravia, Bronzor, Luxio, and Buizel. The sixth slot is currently up in the air. I had a Machop there, but I was thinking about replacing him with either a Cranidos or a Stunky. I'm still not sure which I want. Stunky is a strange combination of poison and dark, which will eventually be what I want my party to have, but Cranidos would help me kill electricity pokemon, which I'm generally weak to. And within 10 minutes of not having Machop, I started missing having a fighting pokemon around to pwn up all the normals I run into.

And Cobra, sprinkle some puncuation marks in there. But I train up all of the pokemon in my party. They are all at the same level, unless I fight a gym battle with only one or two pokemon, at which point I just don't use them until my others catch up. That's just how I play, and it isn't conducive to regularly switching out pokemon from my party.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 30, 2007, 08:58:29 am
Yeah, I think I screwed up with the GTS.

I put my psyduck in for a pikachu, just to see if I would get something.
Well, I did, but I'm partly regretting it.

For one, Psyduck is psychic, and two the pikachu has a Japaneses name -_-

Actually, Psyduck isn't psychic. This confused me for a long time. It's just water type, despite learning psychic moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 30, 2007, 09:17:03 am
That would probably make him a secondary psychic in D/P. That's generally how it works. My Bronzor is Steel, but because he learns psychic moves his secondary is psychic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 30, 2007, 10:02:28 am
Well, then change pikachu's name to english? Is there a name changing guy?

Oh god I cannot wait,  I'm expecting it tomorrow!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on April 30, 2007, 11:22:58 am
Nope, Psyduck is pure water. It doesn't have Psychic as a secondary type at all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on April 30, 2007, 04:19:22 pm
I think I might just get this game. I can't believe all you guys that finish the game in 40 hours or whatever, I always take so long to get through the pokemon games....It probably took me something like over 100 hours to finish yellow, and somewhere around that number to finish the first land in silver...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 30, 2007, 05:04:49 pm
And Cobra, sprinkle some puncuation marks in there. But I train up all of the pokemon in my party. They are all at the same level, unless I fight a gym battle with only one or two pokemon, at which point I just don't use them until my others catch up. That's just how I play, and it isn't conducive to regularly switching out pokemon from my party.

Well then you only got your self to blame if your play style is making things sucky.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on April 30, 2007, 05:26:18 pm

I was hoping that the egg would be something cool but when it hatched I was greatly disappointed...


What was it? because I got Happiny
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 30, 2007, 07:01:56 pm
Everyone gets a happiny no matter what. There is a second obtainable egg to get that hatches into a Riolu which evolves into Lucario. An ally trainer gives it to you on Iron Island.

Oh, and to explain my speedy completion of this game, I got the guide book... :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on April 30, 2007, 07:03:37 pm
damn.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 30, 2007, 09:05:33 pm
Looks like the god are against me getting this game early after going to the post office and finding they dont have what I'm after I visit the bank I'm on my lunch break so I'm pressed for time the line for service was moving at snails pace I get to the front and find that to get what i need is at a different window so i line up again get to the front and find out. What i want was at the 1st window in the 1st place. AAAHHH I didn't have time to wait in line again which was no longer then when i 1st got in line so had to go back to work.

Try again tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on April 30, 2007, 09:30:18 pm
Still didn't learn lessons in punctuation, did you, Cobra? And there's nothing sucky about how I play. I like it just fine, but that's why I think 151 is enough. You're the one whining and trying to justify why they should all be available, not me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on April 30, 2007, 10:22:50 pm
Well, then change pikachu's name to english? Is there a name changing guy?

Oh god I cannot wait,  I'm expecting it tomorrow!

Tried that, He's like "thats a great name"

I mainly want to know what the person named it. If they are anything like all my friends (back with blue and red) they would name it obscene words.

Would anyone be able to translate it if I gave you a picture or something?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 01, 2007, 03:46:11 am
If it's hiregana or katakana I could give it a try.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 01, 2007, 08:42:29 am
i played the game at my friends house today, and its great. but its downloaded for his flashcard, so its full with bugs.
he is able to catch those 3 legendary pokemon on the islands unlimited! he has 3 gritana's, 4 Regigigas and 2 Cresselia's.

whow.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 01, 2007, 08:55:16 am
Damn, it wasn't here when I got home from school. It should still come today or tomorrow though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 01, 2007, 11:11:08 am
I caught Regigias today. That thing is a damned BEAST. I put it's attack all the way down and it was still dealing out some serious death.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 01, 2007, 12:35:05 pm
1. To complete the Sinnoh dex, do you need all the deoxies, legendaries, unowns, etc?

2. I somtimes hear you get the national dex after defeating the elite four, is this true?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 01, 2007, 01:32:03 pm
I'm not actually sure if defeating the e4 is a requirement for the NDex or not, but fighting them helps a lot. And you only need to see one type of unown.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 01, 2007, 01:40:35 pm
Well a lot of people say you need to fill the Sinnoh dex for the National Dex, I would hate that...

Also, today everybody who bought the game from the same supplier I'm getting it from in the UK got there copy of the game, Would you say that would mean I'll get mine tomorrow?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 01, 2007, 04:00:01 pm
Well bugger... I can't seem to seek a vulpix on the global trade area. Is it because I have not seen a vulpix in game yet? Any idea on how I can select Vulpix to seek?

If you do have to see a pokemon in orrded to seek it...any idea when I might fight a trainer with one in Pearl?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 01, 2007, 05:18:57 pm
I heard the National Dex opens up after you beat the E4. And because your pokedex currently has no place for a Volpix, you can't get one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 01, 2007, 05:37:47 pm
I decided I'm going to cancel my current orders on Saturday I'll get a debit card and I can buy it online with out dealing with finding money orders. So hopefully I'll only have to wait about 3 weeks for this game. At the most.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 01, 2007, 05:52:06 pm
How come Serbibiii (sp) lists them as catchable on route 209 if you have leafgreen in your gamepack?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 01, 2007, 06:29:42 pm
Quote
National Dex   

Complete your Sinnoh Pokedex by seeing all 150 Sinnoh region Pokemon, go to Prof. Rowan's lab and talk to him. Prof Oak will dash in and upgrade it.

Shouldn't be too hard.... if you have friends
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 01, 2007, 10:00:27 pm
you can actually see all 150 without any friends. You just gotta know where to look.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 01, 2007, 10:28:14 pm
Generally you will find even if it's not in the wild some trainer has one you can see.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 01, 2007, 11:24:03 pm
you can actually see all 150 without any friends. You just gotta know where to look.

Ah yes, but what about the opposite legendary pokemon to your game?

You wont find that in the wild.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 01, 2007, 11:39:43 pm
i think thats because there are 151 pokes int he game u just have to see the 150 available to you.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 02, 2007, 12:10:05 am
This (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48103), says that there are 20 Exclusives in each game.

I think the pokedexes in both games are the same, so you would need the other version to see those other 20.

Thats how it has worked in the past.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 02, 2007, 06:51:04 am
So until I get a national dex, its impossible for me to get a vulpix? Thats a little silly...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 02, 2007, 10:31:52 am
This (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48103), says that there are 20 Exclusives in each game.

I think the pokedexes in both games are the same, so you would need the other version to see those other 20.

Thats how it has worked in the past.

No, like Cobra said, you can see the other exclusives from trainers. Cranidos is diamond-exclusive, yet the leader of the rock gym uses one in both versions. I know that isn't the only pokemon in that situation.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 02, 2007, 10:56:51 am
Oh, ok

It wasn't very clear what he was trying to say.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 02, 2007, 10:56:57 am
DAMN!

It still hasn't arrived...

How long should a first class package from London to Dublin take?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 02, 2007, 05:12:07 pm
This (http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48103), says that there are 20 Exclusives in each game.

I think the pokedexes in both games are the same, so you would need the other version to see those other 20.

Thats how it has worked in the past.

Nearly all of those exclusives you can only see after obtaining the natl dex. the only exclusives vital to getting natl are Diamond's murkrow, stunky and cranidos; Pearl's misdreavus, glameow, and sheildon as well as all their second forms. All of which are possible to see in either version without the help of any friends.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 02, 2007, 07:10:30 pm
Ive caught all the legendaries on my pearl cart now with the exception of the two goddamn runners, Mesprit and Crescelia -_-" They are ANNOYING to capture, seriously. How the hell can they flee battle WHILE ASLEEP?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 02, 2007, 07:56:04 pm
Magic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 02, 2007, 08:15:29 pm
Ive caught all the legendaries on my pearl cart now with the exception of the two goddamn runners, Mesprit and Crescelia -_-" They are ANNOYING to capture, seriously. How the hell can they flee battle WHILE ASLEEP?

While sleep how cheap is that. Looks like it the one u should use a master ball on.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 03, 2007, 07:03:47 am
Ive caught all the legendaries on my pearl cart now with the exception of the two goddamn runners, Mesprit and Crescelia -_-" They are ANNOYING to capture, seriously. How the hell can they flee battle WHILE ASLEEP?

I think taunt might work. It forces the opponent to use melee attacks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on May 03, 2007, 07:10:34 am
Catch one of those high leveled Golbats towards the end of the game, they're around level 56, and have Mean Look, which stops the opponent from being able to flee.  You'll have to keep Golbat in the battle, otherwise it wears off, but it still helps a lot.

I also hear Gallade is probably the best Pokemon in the game to use for catching wild Pokemon, as he can learn both Mean Look and False Swipe.  Very useful.  :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 03, 2007, 07:55:32 am
Wobbuffet w/Shadow Tag.

Of course, send it out after you knock their HP down a bit. But I got Palkia in a Dusk Ball anyway, so I've still got my Master.

Also, Honchkrow is just such an awesome name. Makes me wish I'd bought Diamond, almost. Honchkrow!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 03, 2007, 08:30:30 am
whow man, already one million copies of the game sold in the US. thats a lot.

Quote from: dsrevolution.com
Pokemon Diamond and Pearl Sell 1 Million --- Apr 27th 10:39 pm CDT
posted by JoeTillinghast
   
According to a Nintendo press release yesterday, Pokemon Diamond and Pearl have hit the 1 million sales mark just five days after becoming available.

This accomplishment marks the fastest sales of any Pokemon game since the series conception almost a decade ago.

Both games have also sold well in Japan, already topping the 5 million mark after being released on September 28th.

 
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 03, 2007, 08:48:42 am
I'm so glad I didn't use my master ball in Fire Red! I can give it to a pokemon and transfer it over to Diamond through Pal Park.

That is, if it ever arrives! I'm still waiting!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 03, 2007, 09:11:52 am
Ive caught all the legendaries on my pearl cart now with the exception of the two goddamn runners, Mesprit and Crescelia -_-" They are ANNOYING to capture, seriously. How the hell can they flee battle WHILE ASLEEP?

You got the map tracker app for the poketech, right? You might want to bring a move "Mean Look" next time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 03, 2007, 12:51:46 pm
Got em. I just masterballed Crescelia and traded to get Mesprit. ..though i've still got Mesprit running around in the wild now, oddly enough.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 03, 2007, 05:05:10 pm
I had an eevee from my fire red and brought it to diamond. Offered one of my dittos for a female eevee and got it today. Both of them are in the day care pumping out eggs like crazy. I have 10 new eevees stored in my box and 5 more still yet to hatch. Im pretty sure the old man has 3 more eggs waiting for me but I have no more room in my party. All of my eevees are males though and getting a female is a less than 10% chance. I plan on giving my friend two so he can breed his own. Well I guess I can evolve all types now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on May 03, 2007, 07:10:02 pm
Woot, captured Dialga without using the masterball... surprisingly easy I might add, only used one ultra ball. Maybe I'm just lucky?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 03, 2007, 08:13:57 pm
Naw, Dialga and Palkia have a catch rate ten times higher than legendaries usually do.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 03, 2007, 08:16:35 pm
Grrrr, why couldn't this game come out a month later. I9 just hit live, and my time is divided between it and pokemon.

I'm in the city where you get the explorer kit. Up ahead is a cave, and I hate caves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on May 03, 2007, 09:43:03 pm
Warning: do not use "Me first" (a move that copies the enemie's move if you go first) on wild Geodudes, especially ones that know selfdestruct.

EDIT: this is also my 1000th post! Yey!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 04, 2007, 05:56:26 am
Grr, it still hasn't friggin' arrived.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 04, 2007, 05:58:48 am
Warning: do not use "Me first" (a move that copies the enemie's move if you go first) on wild Geodudes, especially ones that know selfdestruct.

LOL
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 04, 2007, 04:04:20 pm
Finally beat the Elite Four, with pokemon ranging from level 44 to 51, going in.

That was painful.

EDIT: Wow, this game really opens up after the E4. Like a beautiful lotus flower, or something.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 04, 2007, 07:03:36 pm
I didn't want to have to do this, but I'm stumped. Where exactly is the fifth gym? I defeated the Pastoria leader, and now I have nowhere to go. I've checked every thing I can think of, but no good.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on May 04, 2007, 09:10:11 pm
I think that after Pastoria you may have to go either back to Hearthome or up all the way to the northernmost part of the map or west all the way to the pseudo-island.

That's all the help I have to offer. :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 04, 2007, 09:13:19 pm
Hrm...Well I tried Hearthome, but the trainer is still away. And I can't access the northern part of the map. Boulders and Psyducks block my path.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on May 04, 2007, 09:28:08 pm
Oh yea. Did you get the MagicalPotion from Cynthia (maybe) yet? If you go around and make sure to complete all the Team Galactic sidequests, I think she should come up to you and give you the potion, which you then use on the psyducks. Other than that, try Gamefaqs.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 04, 2007, 09:43:30 pm
Talk to the Galactic Grunt near the entrance to the Safari Zone in Pastoria. Chase him down, and Barry will interupt you for another battle. After beating him, continue chasing the grunt up until he reaches near the entrance to Lake Valor. He will battle you and then he'll run off. Continue upward and you'll bump into Cynthia who will give you a secret potion. Use it on the Psyducks blocking route 210. Cynthia will then give you an Old Charm to deliver for her grandma who is just northwest up this long route. WARNING: You need Defog to clear up the route to see better and to avoid running into wild Pokemon. Make your way past many trainers until you reach Celestic Town. Battle the grunt in the center of town blocking the entrance to an old ruin. After he leaves, Cynthia's grandma will take the Old Charm. Go inside the ruins to the back wall that has writting and read it. Cynthia's grandma will come in and give you Surf (but you can't use it in the field yet.) After going outside, the mysterious blue-haired man appears again and introduces himself as the leader of Team Galactic and leaves. Now you can go back to Hearthome and battle Fantina. Whew!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 04, 2007, 09:48:02 pm
I read the first part of your post and stopped, Elig. I saw that guy, I think I talked to him once, but never bothered again. Or I might not have, I don't remember exactly. Regardless, that's the hint I needed. Thanks!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 05, 2007, 08:28:52 am
Barry? I called him Clint. =s The rival is usually a dick, and Clint sounds like a dick's name.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 05, 2007, 09:14:46 am
Any of you Diamonders still have to get a Shieldon? I need a Cranidos, but I've already got a trade for something else up on the GTS, and I can never Seek up a decent trade.

Anyway, the number you need is 2577 9654 9518
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 05, 2007, 10:17:50 am
I have a cranidos, traded from someone else. You can have that if you want. =s

Luminar
0602 2761 7494

EDIT: My mistake, it's registered under my name.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 05, 2007, 02:59:18 pm
Okies. Let me know when you'll be playing.

Oh, and if anyone wants a Kabuto for another fossil pokemon (Omanyte, Anorith, or Lileep) let me know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
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well, did any of you guys catch some legendaries yet? or other really cool rare pokemon? tell me!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 07, 2007, 09:49:29 am
Legendaries, lets see...
Palkia, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Rotom, Giratina, Heatran, Regigigas, Crescelia, Manaphy, Phione, Mew, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Latias and Latios.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 07, 2007, 10:03:40 am
thats a lotta rare pokemon. cool man! :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on May 07, 2007, 10:14:25 am
thats a lotta rare pokemon. cool man! :)

I wouldn't actually say those are hugely rare. Althogh theres only one of each per game and they can't be bred, they are easier to track down and catch (Except those godawful runners, of course). On balance its much more unusual to see a Milotic or a Tyranitar in the hands of a casual player, given the hassle it takes to get them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 07, 2007, 10:32:10 am
thats a lotta rare pokemon. cool man! :)

I wouldn't actually say those are hugely rare. Althogh theres only one of each per game and they can't be bred, they are easier to track down and catch (Except those godawful runners, of course). On balance its much more unusual to see a Milotic or a Tyranitar in the hands of a casual player, given the hassle it takes to get them.

whoops, i meant legendary there. too late to change it now hehe....  :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 07, 2007, 10:34:04 am
I'm gonna get a milotic, no matter what.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 07, 2007, 11:16:42 am
Yeah, getting the legendaries is just a matter of saving infront of them and then testing your patience. Funny you should mention though, since I do indeed have a Milotic, and it is awesome sauce.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 07, 2007, 11:38:26 am
(http://www.pokecharms.com/trainercards/cards/0cf8283f325dea70f0a952bbb5a779c4.png)

making trainercards for forums is fun! lots and lots of choises and options.

(and yeah, its totaly false: i dont have the game NOR 2 of the 6 pokemon on this card :) )
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 07, 2007, 11:46:27 am
People are selling rare pokemon on ebay for A LOT of money... I guess this is what you get for adding wifi.

Also, the fifth gym badge is very clearly a penis.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 07, 2007, 12:49:55 pm
Don't think there's really any rules against it as such until Nintendo directly steps in and slaps it down.

Also I forgot to mention, my pokemons got the SARS from over the GTS. I got a Finneon, and it had Pokerus on it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 07, 2007, 01:34:40 pm
People do get banned from wifi for it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 07, 2007, 03:31:11 pm
I had a Milotic, back on my Sapphire, which was stolen.  :( Still, it was quite the shizzle indeed.

Now I'm determined to get me a new one, right after I finish getting every different evolution of Eevee.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 07, 2007, 04:24:51 pm
Hah, I got all Eevee's now. I like my Umbreon the best.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 07, 2007, 04:59:04 pm
One of my saves on Ruby had a Milotic used it for battle tower it was seriously bad arse.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 08, 2007, 10:54:02 am
Yay! I got it today, just in time for my trip. However, I'm having serious trouble with my connecting to wifi.

I enter my WEP key and connect, when it tests, this comes up -

"ERROR CODE: 52000

Unable to obtain an IP address. Move within range of the access point or check DHCP settings, for help, visit www.nintendowifi.com"

*Sigh* Help? I'm gonna check the site now, but you guys would be better and easier to understand then crappy prewritten stuff that is crap.


WOOHOO! I did it! Expect my friend code soon!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on May 08, 2007, 12:24:03 pm
Speaking of Milotics, how does one go about obtaining one?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 08, 2007, 12:51:49 pm
You need to catch yourself a Feebas. These are rare, appearing only in specific squares of water that are different in each game (but always on the same route - In D/P, I believe that this is the water in the mountain.) You need to fish a few times in every single square of water in the mountain - thankfully, Feebas is reasonably common in the squares where it does appear.

Once you've got one, the real fun begins. First, it's best if it has a nature that makes it like Dry food - if it doesn't, breed/catch another one. Then give it pokeblocks or poffins until its Beaty stat is as high as it can go, level it up once and a winner is you, you've got yourself a Milotic.

So, in short, to get a Milotic, you need:

1) Plenty of time and patience to catch a Feebas.
2) A Feebas with the right personality.
3) Good berries to make high-beauty poffins out of.

But you get a really good pokemon out of it.

Edit: Got Umbreon, woot. I only have Espeon and Jolteon to score of my list. I need to breed another Eevee.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 08, 2007, 01:35:44 pm
It's nice to know I have a lot of time to catch up with you Americans tomorrow...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 08, 2007, 04:28:50 pm
Once you find one Feebas you got it easy catch a ton of them. Make sure you got at least one female so you can breed no worries instead of having to find the exact location.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 08, 2007, 10:20:56 pm
It's nice to know I have a lot of time to catch up with you Americans tomorrow...

That, or you can just nab yourself an Action Replay...

>.>
<.<
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 09, 2007, 08:18:58 am
Now people, screwing with reality is never a good idea. Did Missingno. and Bad Egg not teach you anything?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 09, 2007, 08:21:46 am
we NEED the honey, to attact pokemon in great numbers :D ;D LOL LOL
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 09, 2007, 10:02:41 am
Missingno. brings back memories. The first time I used Surf in this game, I found a shore that was land on the west side and water on the east side, and I just went up and down it repeatedly, and basked in nostalgia.

Mmhmm...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 09, 2007, 11:57:19 am
Hey hey, I got the game. Yay.

Okay, does a pokemon get the traded xp bonus if you give it to a friend then trade it back?

Also, when does Ponyta evolve? I want a frickin Rapidash. Mine is level 26.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 09, 2007, 12:02:30 pm
lvl 40.....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 09, 2007, 12:15:59 pm
Okay, does a pokemon get the traded xp bonus if you give it to a friend then trade it back?

No. That's never worked since R/B.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 09, 2007, 12:54:58 pm
Hey, Luminar, we're both online, get your DS and we'll do that shieldon/cranidos trade now. Way to go offline mere seconds after I wrote that. Cheers Luminar! It's good to know that I'm not the only person who nicknames my pokemon.

Oh, and I'd like to reiterate my search for the other fossil pokemon. I've got Kabutos piling up here - does no-one have Omanyte or Lileep or Anorith?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 10, 2007, 09:08:09 am
Hey, I nickname all my pokemon. Mostly human names. My (whatever turtwig evolves into) is named Millie.  :-*

And where can I find a list of what all the natures of the pokemon do?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 10, 2007, 09:29:21 am
(http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/9397/natures048ax7.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: skylarpwnjoo on May 10, 2007, 11:07:22 pm
(http://www.pokecharms.com/trainercards/cards/907a0bc50afb04d49bfadadcc3edd098.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: skylarpwnjoo on May 10, 2007, 11:09:24 pm
Hey, Luminar, we're both online, get your DS and we'll do that shieldon/cranidos trade now. Way to go offline mere seconds after I wrote that. Cheers Luminar! It's good to know that I'm not the only person who nicknames my pokemon.

Oh, and I'd like to reiterate my search for the other fossil pokemon. I've got Kabutos piling up here - does no-one have Omanyte or Lileep or Anorith?
I have all fossils if anyone wants them after my wifi stops being gay
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 10, 2007, 11:14:01 pm
I'll be properly ordering this tomorrow I hope.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 07:20:12 am
Feebas are in the foggy room in Mt. Coronet, right? I don't want to start fishing until I know that I'm in the right place.

And should I be using the Good Rod, like in Ruby/Sapphire?

EDIT: Nevermind, I traded my Ambipom for one.

EDIT: Anyone else need one? I bred it off a few times.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on May 11, 2007, 08:01:41 am
hey hey. Wondering if anyone in England has this game. and if they do, whether or not wifi works properly? i really want a def. yes or no b4 i order it :|
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 08:27:42 am
Yes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 11, 2007, 11:06:18 am
hey hey. Wondering if anyone in England has this game. and if they do, whether or not wifi works properly? i really want a def. yes or no b4 i order it :|

I do. It does.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 11, 2007, 12:05:54 pm
Could someone breed me a Piplup or Turtwig?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 12:14:29 pm
Yes.

I'll need your FC to trade you this here Piplup, though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 11, 2007, 01:09:47 pm
Great! I posted it up in the FC thread. But I need your FC too, and it's not there. PM me next time you (and me) are online in the forum.

Oh, and I just caught Dialga, it was waaaaaay too easy. My Infernape used two mach punches, then one dusk ball and boom! Caught myself the controller of time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 01:15:42 pm
...

I had no absolutely idea that FC thread was there! I seriously hadn't noticed it. Weird.

Anyway, let's trade now. Would you like a Feebas as well?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 11, 2007, 01:27:31 pm
Oh definetly! A Feebas would be nice.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 01:32:43 pm
I honestly did not know that there was voice chat either.

:O
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 11, 2007, 01:32:55 pm
Great! I posted it up in the FC thread. But I need your FC too, and it's not there. PM me next time you (and me) are online in the forum.

Oh, and I just caught Dialga, it was waaaaaay too easy. My Infernape used two mach punches, then one dusk ball and boom! Caught myself the controller of time.

It's catch rate is 30. Compare that to the normal legendary catch rate of 3.
They probably did it in reaction to Kyogre/Groudon in the last gen being a required confrontation to progress the story.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 11, 2007, 01:37:22 pm
Hey, that was awesome!

I honestly did not know that there was voice chat either.

:O

Oh, okay, I said Thanks and you didn't respond, so I just assumed you couldn't hear me, but then we talked.

Does your voice really sound like that, because that would be awesome. :)

Sadly I'm just a squeaky voiced teen so my voice sounded stupid.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 11, 2007, 01:42:59 pm
Well, I am Scottish. I was wondering about your accent, because it didn't sound English, but now I've checked to see that you're Irish.

Anyway, you enjoy that Piplup.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 11, 2007, 01:47:05 pm
Yeah I love the name, the sight of a cute penguin named Kingpin made me chuckle.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 11, 2007, 04:38:22 pm
My pokemon Pearl just shipped from amazon yesterday. Estimated delivery time: May 23rd
 :-[ (Dang you, supersaver shipping!)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 12, 2007, 04:07:58 am
Lurks Piplup is now level 43, that's 42 levels in about 2 hours of play, my personal best!

Although I should probably bring it down roughly three levels for realism, because of the exp. boost from trades.

EDIT - This is my party!

I have it.
I want it.

Infernape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infernape)                         Lvl. 48
Luxray (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxray)                              Lvl. 48
Empoleon/"Kingpin" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empoleon)            Lvl. 43
Dialga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialga)                               Lvl. 48
Torterra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torterra)                              N/A
Milotic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milotic)/Drifblim (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifblim)/Spiritomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritomb)      N/A

Need help deciding on the last member.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 12, 2007, 05:42:24 am
Well, if you'd like a Turtwig, I can send you one of those too. It wouldn't count on getting a Spiritomb, though, unless you're going to a nerd convention.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 12, 2007, 06:37:29 am
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 12, 2007, 08:01:24 am
I have a Spiritomb. My friend and I just sat down in a Denny's sipping hot chocolate and entered the underground, talked to eachother, and left the underground 32 times in about 20 minutes. Easy. Did I mention that he and I, when we first started, went around and got all the starter pokemon for eachother? That took like an hour, though. It was a lot of busy work, and it was hard to do it when we were so excited to actually play the game.

As for turtwigs, I got lucky. My starter turtwig is a female, which means eventually I'll be breeding them (I'm focused on the actual game right now, though). When that happens I'll be happy to hand them out to you folks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 12, 2007, 08:06:59 am
My starter was male, but the first thing I caught after getting the National Dex was a Ditto. It has never left the brothel daycare.

I thought you had to talk to 32 different people to get Spiritomb, I didn't realise that you could do that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 12, 2007, 12:57:26 pm
Could someone breed me a Spiritomb?

Or at least let me have it in my party for a few minutes so I can get it in the GTS later?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 12, 2007, 08:42:01 pm
I'm working on getting all the starter ones. I already have the 1st gen starters so now I just need 2nd and 3rd as well as a turtwig.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 13, 2007, 02:02:47 am
Mine is female, I'll try find a match now. :)

Okay, it turns out I had forgotten an offer in the GTS, I had asked for a Turtwig in exchange for a Lvl. 36 Buizel, I just got one, and it's male! It's Japanese but I evolved it up to Torterra thanks to daycare and it's English now. I used it to breed with my Europa (My Torterra from /Lurk) and now I have many Turtwigs. You can have male or female with any nickname. And I put that second Torterra up on the GTS for a female Piplup. Yay!

Got piplups too, and I gotta say, female starters (and males, but a little less) go like hotcakes in the GTS.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 13, 2007, 05:38:28 pm
I finally properly made my order for Pokemon Diamond Hopefully it will arrive soon hopefully the 26th at the latest. Which be a month before the rest of Australia can't freaking wait.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 10:04:06 am
Something awesome happened today, I traded for a female Chimchar, and it was holding a masterball.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 14, 2007, 10:38:12 am
Something awesome happened today, I traded for a female Chimchar, and it was holding a masterball.

lucky you! :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 10:41:27 am
Yeah, that so rocked. I love the cheaters. :) The nice ones, that is.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 14, 2007, 11:07:59 am
(http://www.pokecharms.com/trainercards/cards/20167261313d5f4156db26eb1d563e20.png)

Got that done. My Torterra is a female, but I'm not sure what to breed it with yet.

Also, I have 4 Pichus that know thunder tackle if anyone wants to trade.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 11:27:52 am
Wait, where did you get that made?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 14, 2007, 11:41:12 am
www.pokecharms.com/trainercards

its really easy and fun! :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 12:26:26 pm
D'oh! Didn't see the URL on the card there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 12:40:44 pm
Battle anyone?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 12:57:12 pm
I would. But I warn you that I have lvl 55-65 on my team.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 12:58:07 pm
You can automatically change all levels to either 50 or 100.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 01:05:44 pm
Well do you even have me registered?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 01:07:45 pm
I do. How about an all Lvl. 100 double battle, I probably won't talk much, and probably will keep the volume down (if we do it) I will tell you if I'm turning it down beforehand and I would appreciate it if you did the same so you couldnlt hear me (I may be talking to other people).

How about it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 01:09:04 pm
I was practicing to distort my voice but ok. ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 01:09:19 pm
Lol, let's go!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 14, 2007, 01:19:23 pm
I wish I hadn't erased my old comlpeted Sapphire game and started a new one. I had all the Regis, Jirachi and everything. Everything else I might be able to get but Jirachi will be hard. I think I still have that pre order thing somewhere...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 01:41:36 pm
Good battle Always. You copied my nickname for Dialga though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 01:43:39 pm
That was an AWESOME battle!

And you copied my nickname!

PS, I only remember Dialga, the three 1-gen starters and Drew, who else is in your party again?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on May 14, 2007, 01:46:05 pm
You can automatically change all levels to either 50 or 100.

How do you do that?
I noticed you could select the different cups, but that limits you to three Pokemon each, which is a little disapointing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 01:47:11 pm
I had a Lucario, but that was the only other 4th gen poke on my party. But I mostly had a veteran team of 1st gen pokes.

You can automatically change all levels to either 50 or 100.

How do you do that?
I noticed you could select the different cups, but that limits you to three Pokemon each, which is a little disapointing.

You're looknig in the wifi club downstairs in the Pokemon Centers, right?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 02:09:03 pm
I thought I was loosing. When I killed Blake and Charlie at the end, I didn't remember Luke (That's his name, right?), and I thought I was done for. You shoulda seen my face!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 02:10:09 pm
It was Lucas. And, yes you had a rather lucky victory. ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 02:12:29 pm
I liked the ending, I sacrificed Europa. :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 02:14:23 pm
We should do it again. Or perhaps someone else wants to try.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 02:17:27 pm
It's 10.15pm here, not until tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 14, 2007, 02:21:38 pm
If we can get a fourth person, we could schedule a poker game 2v2.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 14, 2007, 02:49:26 pm
Can you do that?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 14, 2007, 03:02:53 pm
You could do it in Ruby/Sapphire; I assume you can do it now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 14, 2007, 04:50:22 pm
I am officially in love with Amazon...
The estimated delivery date for my order was May  22-25, and guess what, it was delivered this saturday!
I haven't played yet though, because my parents hid the game when it arrived (I timed the delivery so that it would be after my AP biology test earlier on today, but now that that's over, I can play!)
Now I've got to wait for my dad to get home so he can tell me where he's hidden it   :D

I was actually really scared, because I tracked my order earlier on today, and it said "delivered May 11" and I was like "what?", but it turns out it was just my parents..hehe.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 05:12:48 pm
Why are they hidding it? :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 14, 2007, 05:18:48 pm
I am officially in love with Amazon...
The estimated delivery date for my order was May  22-25, and guess what, it was delivered this saturday!
I haven't played yet though, because my parents hid the game when it arrived (I timed the delivery so that it would be after my AP biology test earlier on today, but now that that's over, I can play!)
Now I've got to wait for my dad to get home so he can tell me where he's hidden it   :D

I was actually really scared, because I tracked my order earlier on today, and it said "delivered May 11" and I was like "what?", but it turns out it was just my parents..hehe.

Good luck get through all that crap.....especially the ******* fog!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on May 14, 2007, 05:24:01 pm
I am officially in love with Amazon...
The estimated delivery date for my order was May  22-25, and guess what, it was delivered this saturday!
I haven't played yet though, because my parents hid the game when it arrived (I timed the delivery so that it would be after my AP biology test earlier on today, but now that that's over, I can play!)
Now I've got to wait for my dad to get home so he can tell me where he's hidden it   :D

I was actually really scared, because I tracked my order earlier on today, and it said "delivered May 11" and I was like "what?", but it turns out it was just my parents..hehe.

Good luck get through all that crap.....especially the ******* fog!!!

You DO know theres a HM to get rid of the fog, right?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 14, 2007, 05:26:31 pm
Man I hope my order gets hear early my luck will be that it will be late though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 14, 2007, 06:08:58 pm
Why are they hidding it? :(
for my own good!  ;)

If I'd received it this week-end I would have played non-stop, and I needed to study for my big test today.
Still waiting for my dad to get back from work/answer the phone. 
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 14, 2007, 06:29:32 pm
You DO know theres a HM to get rid of the fog, right?

Yes. Yes I do. But I hate HMs except surf, strength, and cut.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 06:30:55 pm
What about Fly? That's pretty useful you know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 14, 2007, 06:34:08 pm
Oh yeah forgot that one.....stupid brain why can't you function right!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 14, 2007, 06:34:56 pm
I always thought that cut was also kind of an anoying HM, but yea, I don't mind Surf, Fly, and Strength. Waterfall, in the Silver/Gold games wasn't too bad either, but doesn't really compare to Surf. Is it different in D/P?
Btw, I'm playing right now. I think I'm getting a turtwig.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 14, 2007, 09:39:58 pm
Can i ask which starter has everyone picked so far? See what i should choose when it arrives in my lap.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 14, 2007, 10:00:14 pm
I got Pilpup when I started.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 14, 2007, 10:01:05 pm
I picked turtwig, and it worked out just fine.

Cut is a decent normal attack, along with strength. Honestly, Defog is pretty much useless, but I had to teach it to my Staraptor anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: MetallicDragon on May 14, 2007, 10:01:19 pm
I got Prinplup. I would suggest one of the others, though, as there are MORE than enough other possible water pokemon and barely any grass and ONE fire which you can get.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 14, 2007, 10:08:55 pm
I got Piplup, it's honestly more of a liability than an asset.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 14, 2007, 10:12:36 pm
Yea, I got turtwig (I called it "Terabyte". Cuz, you know, it becomes a ground pokemon in its final evolution (hence "Tera"), and its like a snapping turtle (hence "byte")...heh), but I don't really know if its any good yet or not (only level 12  ;))

P.S. I think I overdid it with the parentheses....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 14, 2007, 10:22:54 pm
Have to admit the Turtwig evolutions look cool. Although I have to admit being disappointed by Treeko in the previous generation didn't feel like it was that great a Pokemon. Did anyone try Chimchar and if so what opinions do you have of it. If no one has got it I might just have to grab it as there might be a trade market for it's offspring then again by the time i got it everyone will have it already. In any case we already have fire fighter.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on May 15, 2007, 02:32:13 am
I took Piplup.  A lot of people complain that Empoloen takes on a lot of weaknesses with his Steel type, but his defense stats more than make up for it.  Not the best water type ever, but I still love him.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 15, 2007, 08:39:23 am
I got Chimchar. I think a lot of people chose Piplup just for the first Gym Leader, but Chimchar is really handy against the Ice and Grass leaders. I thought Chimchar was a good choice. One thing -

NEVER put your Infernape in daycare around level 51, it grew two levels and when I took it out it's move Close Combat (which I had raised to 6 PP with a PP up) had been replaced with Calm Mind... ARGH!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 15, 2007, 09:40:52 am
Pastoria move tutor'll fix that up nicely. Sometimes he's the only way that your pokemon can actually learn a specific move, like Torterra's Wood Hammer.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 15, 2007, 11:05:52 am
Thanks Lurk, I'll do that.

Could somebody do a trade back and forth of the following to get them in my dex?

Palkia
Mesprit
Uxie
Azelf

I'm too lazy to catch them now, I can do a trade in about 25 minutes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 15, 2007, 11:07:18 am
no sorry, dont have the game. i hate not having a credit card. :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 15, 2007, 11:16:05 am
Use paypal! :)

I used my parents paypal then payed them cash.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 15, 2007, 11:25:01 am
oeh! how does paypal work?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 15, 2007, 11:49:25 am
It's attached to a bank account, and is in conjuction with ebay (a lot of other sites use it aswell) it makes paying for items from a bank account really easy.

https://www.paypal.com/ (https://www.paypal.com/)

Oh yeah, when I get a heart scale or a fossil, it doesn't pass on to my bag in the overworld! What am I to do?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 15, 2007, 01:57:29 pm
Go into the "treasures" section on your menu underground and select "put into bag."

That's how it's done.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 15, 2007, 02:09:17 pm
Cool! Also, will you do a back and forth with me with the guys I listed? If we do I cant talk.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 15, 2007, 04:59:16 pm
I got Chimchar. I think a lot of people chose Piplup just for the first Gym Leader, but Chimchar is really handy against the Ice and Grass leaders. I thought Chimchar was a good choice. One thing -

NEVER put your Infernape in daycare around level 51, it grew two levels and when I took it out it's move Close Combat (which I had raised to 6 PP with a PP up) had been replaced with Calm Mind... ARGH!

I like calm mind it's one of the better buffing moves I have plenty of strategies that have made good work of it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 15, 2007, 05:07:44 pm
Cool! Also, will you do a back and forth with me with the guys I listed? If we do I cant talk.

Do the voice of Meatwad or something to hide your voice. :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 17, 2007, 06:13:31 am
I got the watter pokemon as my starter (I like penguins  ;D )

I'm renting diamond from GameFly, but since I had a gift card to game stop I went there to buy it.
So I'm going to keep the one I got from gamefly (along with my save) and send the one I got from gamestop back.

So I ended up getting the fire one too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 17, 2007, 11:42:57 am
Eli - Yesterday I couldn't help but notice you had a Shaymin, where'd you get it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 17, 2007, 11:55:00 am
>_>
<_<

It's a secret...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 17, 2007, 12:13:42 pm
:o...... Haxorz?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 17, 2007, 12:49:31 pm
There are four ways in which Shaymin can be obtained:

Nintendo Event
Trade with someone who's gone to Nintendo Event
Haxorz
Trade with Haxorz

Considering that the Nintendo Event hasn't happened yet, Haxorz was definitely involved at some point.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 17, 2007, 01:15:09 pm
Anyone wanna particiate in some sort of wi-fi thingy? I may not have time for a full on battle though, maybe just a three-on-three?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 17, 2007, 01:16:13 pm
I hope to plan on going to a Nintendo Event if it's conveniently held nearby to me. :P

I know someone who has 3 Arceus' in his party. I think I stand more legitimate than some people.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 17, 2007, 02:25:16 pm
Anyone wanna particiate in some sort of wi-fi thingy? I may not have time for a full on battle though, maybe just a three-on-three?

I'll bite. Lemme wham in your FC and get online...

Oh goddamnit. Eligecos, feel like a 3vs3?

Ah, the hell with it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 17, 2007, 03:23:12 pm
What? :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 17, 2007, 09:26:20 pm
Hopefully I'll have to game in at least a weeks time (I hope) and 48 hours later I will have a fully capable fighting team and not a winks sleep. Basically I'm going to play the balls of this game to catch up to everyone.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 17, 2007, 09:38:26 pm
Don't rush it though. You need to explore everything along the way as much as you can. That way you can be effectively prepared as you play along.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 17, 2007, 09:53:12 pm
This thread passed 20,000 views, and it's nearing 1,000 posts. Crazy!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 17, 2007, 10:02:11 pm
Don't rush it though. You need to explore everything along the way as much as you can. That way you can be effectively prepared as you play along.
Why do you think i wont be sleeping there's a lot i got to do catch up and enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 18, 2007, 01:05:50 pm
There's really not much to do after the 4/national dex, is there? The new places just bore me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 19, 2007, 08:11:39 am
Yay, got a Spiritomb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritomb)

It's rather good. I was fighting a gym leader and he killed my 3 best pokemon, but my Spiritomb took out his last two easily.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 19, 2007, 08:24:51 am
WiFi Battle Tower is kind of tricky. I've only had one victory in there thus far..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 19, 2007, 09:44:40 am
Offering free Spiritombs, Feebas', Eevees and Starters.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 19, 2007, 09:55:33 am
You know, i'm some day gonna breed a ton of eggs, deliberatley jumble them up then hand them out so it's a mystery as to what you get.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 19, 2007, 11:19:03 am
That sounds like fun!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 20, 2007, 10:43:36 am
Okay I've got a question.

I'm training a Ninetales (currently stilll a vulpix)

I've managed to breed Hypnosis and Energy ball into it. Its going to learn Flamethrower naturally.

The last spot I'm on the fence about. I could fill it with Extrasensory, a good psycic attack that can cause flinching to round out its attack types, or I could fill it with confuse ray to annoy the crap out of people with a sleep/confuse combo.

Or should I go a different route and do
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Hypnosis
Nasty plot

Put them to sleep, power up and blast away?

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 20, 2007, 10:57:41 am
My opinion, Extrasensory.

Offering - Bulbasaur, three Sinnoh starters, Eevees, Porygons (maybe) Feebas', Spiritombs, Aerodactlys, Kabutos, Tyrogues... There may be more. It would be nice if I could expand my starter pokemon collection, but I'm still okay with giving them away free.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 20, 2007, 04:48:20 pm
Bulbasaur is like, the only starter I don't have out of all three generations. What are you seeking?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 20, 2007, 05:00:26 pm
I've started breeding Mudkips still wont have the game for a while or even be able to get in to PAL a bit after that but I'll have more than plenty.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 20, 2007, 07:14:14 pm
Oh and I was lucky enough to get a female EEVEE so once I can get my wireless working again I can start offering some eevees for trade.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 21, 2007, 11:31:08 am
Nothing special about a female eevee. Just get a ditto. Not too difficult. Use that poke'search tool in the grass east of conalave before the water. It takes a good amount of tries, but you'll get one.

Right now, 373 seens, 301 obtained. Best of everyone I personally know who has the game right now. (about 14). Not counting anyone over online.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 21, 2007, 11:55:56 am
Is anyone offering any starters? I need any except bulbasaur and the sinnoh ones.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 21, 2007, 12:10:13 pm
I need the second generation starters. But first i need a reliable wi-fi node to play from.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 21, 2007, 12:14:34 pm
I need the second generation starters. But first i need a reliable wi-fi node to play from.

Those starters are the rarest, the only ways to get them nintendo events aside is to complete the national dex in Emerald. The you get a choice between the three Johto starters.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 21, 2007, 12:17:55 pm
I need the second generation starters. But first i need a reliable wi-fi node to play from.

Those starters are the rarest, the only ways to get them nintendo events aside is to complete the national dex in Emerald. The you get a choice between the three Johto starters.

I suppose plenty of people been breeding them?

Heh. There's the catch with Diamond IN Pearl.To beat it, you need 5 other pokemon games. POssibly battle revolution if you want the easy way to get King's Rock. Which requires a Wii. Well played Nintendo. What about the legendaries from second gen. How are these obtainable?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 21, 2007, 12:20:54 pm
Events. You can either get them in a D/P event or you could obtain them in a 3rd and 1st (remake) generation game event.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 21, 2007, 12:29:31 pm
Event as in Nintendo Event? If that's the case i'm gonna find some Action Replay to get the 3 event legendaries from 4th gen, and starters and legendaries from 2nd gen. But no more. Rest I can get.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 12:32:56 pm
I can breed a Charmander and a Squirtle for you.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 21, 2007, 12:33:52 pm
Here, Met. Events Pokes. (http://www.serebii.net/games/events-pkmn.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Global Nexus on May 21, 2007, 03:50:30 pm
I need the second generation starters. But first i need a reliable wi-fi node to play from.

Those starters are the rarest, the only ways to get them nintendo events aside is to complete the national dex in Emerald. The you get a choice between the three Johto starters.

This is completely untrue.  You can snag the middle evolution of the Johto starters in Pokemon Colosseum and obtain one in XD by completing the 100-battle Battle Mountain without changing your team at all.  You can get all three by running through 300 battles...they come with their respective Elemental Hyper Beams when gotten via XD.

THEN comes getting one through completing the Hoenn Dex in Emerald.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 21, 2007, 05:00:52 pm
My copy of Diamond arrived in the mail yesterday not to bad time to get here and it was probably actually cheaper to buy it form Canada to now that I think about it. Anyway I got the fire type starter and as soon as i access Pal Park I churn out some more Mupkips for anyone who wants.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 21, 2007, 05:32:21 pm
I have Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile. I only have one of each though, so i'd need to breed them first.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 21, 2007, 05:57:53 pm
As long as u got a ditto.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 06:04:35 pm
As long as u got a ditto.

D'oh! I keep forgetting I have two of those. So I can breed most Pokemon with a Ditto?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Grazony on May 21, 2007, 06:13:15 pm
Yes because ditto is the only pokewhore.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 21, 2007, 06:15:51 pm
And to think I went through all the trouble of getting a mate for each one I bred. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 21, 2007, 06:39:39 pm
Ditto is number 1 on my list to get when i have access to the national Dex.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on May 21, 2007, 10:04:57 pm
Yes because ditto is the only pokewhore.
aew.
Urg, I haven't been playing so much lately, too busy. I'm also kind of drawing the game out a little, because I get bored pretty fast just collecting pokemon and completing the pokedex after having defeated the Elite Four. My team is kind of pathetic right now, it basically consists of my level 32 Torterra, a level 29 Kadabra, a level 23 ponyta which I'm kind of reluctant to use, and a level 18 Blissey which I totally messed up on (I levelled Happiniy too late and it never learned Softboiled, so it basically sucks now.)
Just wondering, do any of you guys have a Shuckle I could use?
Also, would it be a bad idea to train a Gengar in addition to an Alakazam on my team (balance-wise)?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 21, 2007, 10:25:34 pm
When u looking for a competitive battling team I almost never use anything from the 6 i took the main story with. If I want one of the same species i just breed it.

If you are making a completive team it be worth doing things like restarting your Blissey.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 22, 2007, 07:40:54 am
I've got a Ditto too. I just need to find time to breed em.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 23, 2007, 10:42:13 am
I caught a level 30-something sneasel, but I wanted one that would level up faster, so I put it on the GTS for a level 30 or above sneasel. I ended up getting one that's level 52, but with a japanese name.

I only plan to use him if I'm losing a battle.  ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 23, 2007, 11:05:30 am
is a sneasel so extremely powerfull?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 23, 2007, 11:10:21 am
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

I WANT TO DESTROY THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It makes me really angry, ecspecially Burmies.

I got a Burmy, bred it, evolved it into all three Wormadams, this took ages. My reason? You need them all for the macho brace. But the guy won't give it to me. Then I discover that after all my hard work I need three burmies of all forms, but not evolved. So I breed them off again. Another age. The plant and ground type are easy to get, but the steel type? Oh no, you have to be indoors. Where is there a place where I can battle indoors? I dunno. The VS seeker won't work.

But wait! Theres that restaurant full of double battles - ut I already used up all the battles getting the steel wormadam. No biggy, just set the day one forward, right? But wait, the guy still says the restauarnt is closed. Set it forward another day, still closed. It's in the middle of the day, too.

I WANT MY MACHO BRACE!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 23, 2007, 11:19:58 am
AND I WANT MY POKEMON PEARL!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on May 23, 2007, 11:20:24 am
is a sneasel so extremely powerfull?

No, I just like it. It's got an interesting combination of dark/ice.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 23, 2007, 12:03:27 pm
I'm copy/pasting my list from another site -

Asking for
Squirtle,
All gen 2 starters,
Any event Poke, (-Manaphy)
Basically any Legendary not in DP.
Alternatively, you can make me a good offer!

Offering
Any gen 4 +3 starter,
Bulbasaur,
Spiritomb,
Charmander,
Feebas,
Togepi,
Japanese Lvl. 54 Golduck,
Lvl Fortysomething Infernape,
Tyrogue,
Eevee,
Porygon (can you breed them?)
Burmy,
Cranidos,
Aerodactyl,
Kabuto,
Phione.

IF THE POKEMON YOU ARE TRADING ME IS SHINY, HAS POKERUS OR IS HOLDING A RARE ITEM, YOU MAY PICK TWO POKEMON FROM THE LIST ABOVE OPPOSED TO ONE.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 23, 2007, 12:22:43 pm
Palkia for Bulbasaur. How's that sound?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 23, 2007, 12:28:00 pm
That sounds good, you're giving me a Palkia? Gimme a minute.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 23, 2007, 12:35:00 pm
Dude, it kinda helps if you have the Bulbasaur with you. XP

Thanks man.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 23, 2007, 12:43:02 pm
I know, it's because just before you, someone had offered me a Manaphy for a Porygon holding upgrade, I couldn;t say no to that trade and he was very impatient. It's even a legit Manaphy because it was hatched and it's level 1 with all the right moves! So happy.

And I'm double happy for the Palkia You even remembered to give him the Lustrous orb! Really great.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 23, 2007, 12:43:38 pm
Why wouldn't I? It'd be pretty useless without Palkia...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 23, 2007, 12:46:46 pm
Well, I guess I'm giving away Phiones now.
Charmanders too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 23, 2007, 04:44:47 pm
I spent like an hour searching for an hour for a Pokemon last night only to find I was in the wrong area bah. Trying to get a Burmy. Almost considering making a male one apart of my team I'd be using Heracross if I didn't already have fighting type in my starter. Then again i don't have psychic yet so I'll probably just try and find a decent one of them.

Got to at least get something that can put others to sleep or at least Paralyze to help catch.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on May 24, 2007, 08:49:21 am
on which pokemon did you guys spend your master ball on? :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 24, 2007, 09:24:42 am
on which pokemon did you guys spend your master ball on? :)

I got 14 masterballs. Didn't cheat either. Transfered them from my sapphire. Some reason I had 13 on it.

And I haven't used any of them yet. Such a waste of time transfering them over. I caught all the New Legendaries (excluding Event ones and Regigigas) with ultras.

On a different note, check out Spiritomb. I got myself one last week. It's not too shabby. Dark and Ghost type. It has virtually no weaknesses and a lot of strengths. But I'm not really training any guys to battle competitively. I'm working on completing the dex.

Just got an elekid with an electrizer. Have a magby but I have to get leafgreen back from my friend to get the Magmanizer or whatever its called.

Right now:
322 obtained
387 seen

What are you guys at?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 24, 2007, 09:30:59 am
Hey Met, Phione for masterball?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on May 24, 2007, 09:36:33 am
I have done something what may be evil to some of you with my pokedex. My only excuse is to be able to request any pokemon from the GTS, which sucks because you have to have seen a pokemon before you can ask for it. Just because all the info is there doesn't mean I have them though. I want to get most of them though, and I'm working my way up in getting the unobtainables in this game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 24, 2007, 09:37:39 am
I can't get WiFi to work. But if I find a way, of course. =)

I'll see if my engineering classroom's wifi will work. Doubt it though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 24, 2007, 09:45:44 am
PM me when you're ready.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 24, 2007, 09:49:08 am
Nope engineering didn't work... Even If I find a reliable node, I probably wont be in range of a computer to PM ya...

I could probably pick up a node in some downtown coffee shop... I'll be back on tommarow to see if I can work out anything.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 24, 2007, 12:41:48 pm
Woohoo! I just got a Lvl. 70 Kyogre with Pokerus! This is great!

EDIT - Anyone wanna know a way then can get any Pokemon they want at Lvl. 100, without cheating in any way, with barely any trouble?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 26, 2007, 06:07:03 am
Permanently, no. You could do a Lv.100 battle on WiFi though, if you're checking IVs and stuff.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Person21 on May 26, 2007, 06:57:52 am
Yes!!! I just get this today!!!

EDIT - Anyone wanna know a way then can get any Pokemon they want at Lvl. 100, without cheating in any way, with barely any trouble?

I'm listening...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 26, 2007, 07:21:59 am
Permanently, no. You could do a Lv.100 battle on WiFi though, if you're checking IVs and stuff.

No, I'm telling you how.

Credit to This guy. (http://www.wiichat.com/pokemon-diamond-pearl/26275-need-help-trading-lv-1-lv-100-gts.html) This forum is great for trades and battles, I joined a few days ago and got a lot of legendaries. Retyping the method here though, because all the grammar and spelling is atrocious -

1) Get any starter and evolve it to the second evolution. This is the only thing YOU have to do.
2) Offer this weak second evolution for a Palkia or Dialga on any level in the GTS (Trust me on this, just wait 2 houres or so) If this legendary is Lvl. 100, skip step 3.
3) When you get your legendary offer it for a Lvl. 100 final evolution of any starter.
4) This Lvl. 100 pokemon will go for litterally ANYTHING in the GTS. (Even other Lvl. 100)
5) If it's japanese trade it for the same pokemon at the same level again.

And believe me! It works! I have a Level 100. MILOTIC!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 26, 2007, 07:29:50 am
That involves hacking for the Palkia that the guy's trading you. No-one's going to trade a legit Palkia for a weak starter.

It also involves hacking the level 100 starter that's being traded for the weak legend. No-one's going to trade a legit level 100 for a weak Palkia.

To summarise: It does involve cheating, despite the fact that you're not doing the cheating yourself.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 26, 2007, 07:32:28 am
Well, I'm just doing it to add to my pokedex, I already have a party and all the starters/legendaries I find necessary.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Pinstar on May 26, 2007, 07:48:46 am
is a sneasel so extremely powerfull?

No, I just like it. It's got an interesting combination of dark/ice.

My Weavelle (evolved from Sneasel) is awesome. It was the first member of my "real" team.

It currently has:

Swords Dance
Ice Punch
Night Slash
Aireal Ace

and is carrying a focus sash.

No matter what I am fighting, I open with swords dance. The focus sash ensures that I have at least 1 round after to use my powered up attack. Weavelle's X4 weakness is to fighting attacks, which would normally kill it in one blow. That is where Aireal Ace comes in. I've found that an Aireal Ace powered up with 1 swords dance is enough to 1 shot most fighting types.

Ice punch is the best ice attack for Weavelle, but you need to breed it. Have a Medican "remember" ice punch, then breed it with a buneary. Then breed the buneary with the sneasel. A pain to do, but worth the effort.

Night Slash doesn't crit as often as it says it does, but is still a solid attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Fink on May 26, 2007, 10:34:45 pm
on which pokemon did you guys spend your master ball on? :)

...On a different note, check out Spiritomb. I got myself one last week. It's not too shabby. Dark and Ghost type. It has virtually no weaknesses and a lot of strengths...

Yeah, I just got one of those.

It saved my butt too, I fought the water gym leader, and it took 3 pokemon to kill the 1st pokemon. But I then used my lvl 25 Spiritomb, and killed the last 2, even thought he was like 5 levels below the opponent.

Hypnoses + Dream eater = Win
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 26, 2007, 11:17:00 pm
I was worried I might not be a high enough level to take on the water gym I been training up for it look like i might be already high enough.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on May 27, 2007, 04:21:21 pm
i'm really regreting trading in my ds now  :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 04:56:23 pm
So you should why would you trade in something with so many good games on it.

Can someone tell me where i can find the Defog HM?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on May 27, 2007, 05:07:48 pm
i traded mine in almost a year ago, there wasnt that many good games. and if i got a new one i'd probably grow tired of it after a month.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 06:10:34 pm
What u mean no good games, Mario kart, Animal Crossing plus more and there were tons on the horizon. There still are.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on May 27, 2007, 06:46:46 pm
i never said "no good games". mario kart is fun and all but i need something a bit more substantial. the only game i was looking forward to was contact. plus i'm tired of the ds gimmick
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 07:42:05 pm
a million billion people around the world showing it ain't no gimmick.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on May 27, 2007, 07:46:39 pm
those "million billion" arnt me, i'll decide what i think is worthy of my time and right now its two worlds.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 10:26:55 pm
No, your wrong!

>.>
<.<
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on May 27, 2007, 10:33:36 pm
lol
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 10:37:39 pm
Still rings me back to my previous question does anyone know where the Defog HM is?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 27, 2007, 11:33:36 pm
The Great Marsh, talk to people.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 27, 2007, 11:37:09 pm
Bah I actually avoided that because it looked like paying money to try and catch Pokemon I already had guess i have to go back. Hurray for fly.

Which reminds me i got a trade that been in the GTS for over a day now was going to check it last night but had trouble with my wifi thingy be sure to look that up when i get home.

The trade went through I now also have a female Turtwig I already made an egg with it if anybody wants it let me know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 28, 2007, 01:31:04 pm
The GTS isn't working.

Plus, EV training is hard but rewarding! I'm trying it now and it actually has an almost immediate difference, my Spiritomb has an unusually high Sp. Atk!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 28, 2007, 02:50:47 pm
Sp.Att? On Spiritomb?

You mean you're not using an obvious staller for obvious stalling?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 28, 2007, 05:13:01 pm
You wont get anywhere in Battle tower with out doing some EV training. I'm not sure what the D/P equivalent is.

With talk of a tournament I was thinking of actually doing the organizing of a Diamond Pearl Tourny that is if people are interested shall i make a new topic for it or should we stage it from here? I assume some people are interested. If so I suggest we give people some time for preparation but I'll work on the full rules. Which is one of the reasons i was thinking of a new topic something I can set up polls to help decide on rules like banning legendaries and what not.

If people are into it I'll start up a Poke Torn Topic and draft some early rules.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: darkstar on May 28, 2007, 05:16:43 pm
a tournament would be great, get some good rules down and I will happily join, but please wait for at least 2 weeks before holding it as I have finals until then and will have no free time (as I'm sure is the case with a number of other people)

I would prefer to be able to use legendaries, but I'm fine if u can't.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 28, 2007, 05:21:40 pm
It wont be for a while one reason is not everyone has finished the game (like my self) i wont to at least give people the chance to get the national dex that way the can Pal park a team in that they already built if they want to. the reason I don't want to use Legendaries is everyone just GTSing a team of Rayquaza or assorted legendaries and if everyone does this doesn't make for much fun. I'll get working on a new topic now i think that way i can post the rules I'm working on now the date wont be for a long time not to be honest but will give us time to fine tune it all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 28, 2007, 06:47:47 pm
Could someone tell me what an EV is?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 28, 2007, 06:57:24 pm
it' been discussed a few times but put simply it is a Effort value each Pokemon has a certain effort value for a certain stat for example Whismer has 1 EV hot HP. Defeating a Whismer gives you 1 EV for HP. The up shot being if you battle a lot of Whismers when you level up you get a lot of Extra HP.

All Pokemon have a certain EV it is a hidden stat but you can look on gamesfaqs or something to find which pokes have which EV.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Brandonazz on May 28, 2007, 07:59:11 pm
*confused by acronyms*

I don't know why I even came to this thread, all I have is sapphire...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 29, 2007, 07:46:48 am
Sp.Att? On Spiritomb?

You mean you're not using an obvious staller for obvious stalling?

Well, it keeps its really high Sp. Def, but now it can kill faster.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 29, 2007, 10:23:45 am
It can kill at 35 speed. That's still way too slow to hurt anything on impact.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 29, 2007, 02:22:32 pm
Eh? I didn't really understand that.

But I hit maximum EVs on Special attack so now I'm raising its speed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 29, 2007, 02:28:57 pm
If you've got a slow pokemon, Speed is the last thing to be putting EVs into, since it'll still be outpaced by lots of things.

With 35 base speed, Spiritomb is slower than practically everything. Putting EVs into it will only mean that it's slower than almost everything.

Seriously, stick those EVs in HP or one of its defenses. There no point increasing its speed since it's just too slow to make a difference.

Edit: I've only now found out that the slot are unbelievably loose. Seriously.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 29, 2007, 04:59:39 pm
EVs are to improve on what is already the strengths of you Pokemon if you have one with a high defense stat use i as a tank possibly to sit there for a few turns rasing various stats like maybe one of its attacks in battle preparing to baton pass to something with a high attack and speed with the newly boosted attack go nuts.

A pretty basic strategy but can be effect and can be worth sacrificing the one Pokemon to be able to send out another that will decimate everyone else with OHKOs.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on May 30, 2007, 01:33:07 am
I really hope they remove EV's from the next game, it's one of the most broken mechanics I've ever seen used in an RPG.  They're supposed to be hidden, but most everyone who plays the game knows about them.  Meaning those who have the time to waste fighting 500 Bidoof have a massive advantage over those who don't.  Any kind of strategy the game may have had goes out the window when EV's come into it.  It doesn't matter how strategic I can make my team now, if I come across someone who EV trains.

It also seems like it was only included in the first place as a way to make the stats seem more randomised, some people would have a Pikachu with higher defense, etc.  Just another example of how lazy the developers are.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 30, 2007, 07:35:41 am
It's not really the dev's fault I say, it's the recent thing of people have to data-mine absolutley everything then paste it all over the net for everyone to know about. There's no suprises in gaming anymore - hell, we're not even supposed to know about Darkrai, Shaymin and Arceus yet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 30, 2007, 08:47:14 am
This is my party-to-be.

Magnezone
Spiritomb
Gyarados
Toxicroak
Exeggutor
Golem
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 30, 2007, 03:02:02 pm
Thanks for the tip-off!Sucker.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 30, 2007, 04:08:48 pm
You do realise the tiny font doesn't actually hide anything, just makes it more annoying to read?

Six-point is better.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 30, 2007, 04:11:28 pm
Yes.

Yes I do.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 30, 2007, 04:56:09 pm
I caught Dialga last night anyone with the Pearl version Palkia want to trade i don't want to just send Dialga out into the GTS or anything like that plus I dont think I can get Palkia through the GTS at the moment. I mostly just want to trade then trade right back so i have the Pokedex entry.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: flabe on May 31, 2007, 12:15:40 am
After you beat the Elite 4 go talk to the old woman in Celestic City. She shows you a picture of Palkia(or Diagla for Pearl) which gives you the pokedex entry.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 31, 2007, 06:01:07 am
Like I said I dont want to just send my Dialga off into the either via GTS I'll never see it again which is why I'd rather trade with someone here that way I can get it back.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 31, 2007, 06:24:27 am
Cobra, I can do it now, if you want.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 31, 2007, 11:58:14 am
Say, guys, what would be the best places to EV train? I've already figured the Old Chateau for Sp.Att and Route 225 for Speed, but what would the best places be for HP, Attack and the Defences?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 31, 2007, 12:12:35 pm
HP - I usually use Woopers, try the south of Route 212
Attack -


Oh hell, just use Serebii. On the D/P pokedex scroll down and you can see all the pokemon who give a certain EV.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Devoid on May 31, 2007, 12:33:36 pm
I think this was discussed earlier in the thread, but I don't feel like spending a half hour combing this huge thing. How did you guys catch Uxie? I stalled for 20 or 25 turns, poisoned him down to an extremely small sliver of health, then used a timer ball, and it still didn't get him. Is this a time to use the master ball?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 31, 2007, 12:34:16 pm
I use dusk balls.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 31, 2007, 12:45:42 pm
I caught Uxie in my first Dusk Ball.

Try paralysing him instead of poisoning him, and just smack him around conventionally.

Edit: Always, I know it's a bit late to help you with your Burmy/Macho Brace problem, but if you breed a Wormadam it'll give you a baby Burmy that's the same colour as it. If you had all three colours of Wormadam, you could have just bred each of them once.

Editedit: Actually, just knowing which pokemon gives which EVs is surprisingly unhelpful. I'd be better off figuring where common pokemon that give a single EV congregate, but apart from the Chateau and Rt. 225, I'm not sure if there are any places like this.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on May 31, 2007, 01:15:33 pm
An update on my dex. (I will complete this. I'm determined but too lazy to continually work on it.)

424 Seen
373 Obtained

I got every starter and Legendary except the Totodile and evolutions, Ho-oh, lugia, and the 3 event PKMN from this new generation. Darkrai, Shaymin, and Arceus I think the names are. Not too shabby. I got about a box and a half of pokemon I need to evolve with experience. And It's almost impossible to get more water stones on diamond. Easier for pearl.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on May 31, 2007, 01:16:02 pm
HP - I usually use Woopers, try the south of Route 212
Attack -


Oh hell, just use Serebii. On the D/P pokedex scroll down and you can see all the pokemon who give a certain EV.

Normally i'd recommend Veekun over Serebii any day but I dont think Veekun allows you to list by EVs. Oh well.

Here's my personal recommendations, though...

HP - Wild Bidoof. Not so hard at all.
Attack - This one takes a bit of work and the Vs Seeker. East of Jubilife there's a Lass trainer - if you battle her enough times with the vs seeker, her pokemon lineup will be Bibarel and Staraptor - that's 5 attack EVs total per battle.
Defense - Iron Island. Fight everything but Golbat.
Sp. Attack - Just south of the Pokemon Manor, in the grass. Fight with Budew and Roselia.
Sp. Defense - Not so sure on this one.
Speed - Just west out of Eterna there's a pier with 4 fishermen. The second one from the right has 6 magikarp - 6 speed EVs per battle.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 31, 2007, 02:11:26 pm
Hmm... Old Chateau has nothing but loads of Ghastlys, one Sp.Att EV a pop. Route 225 is full of Raticates and Fearows, which are worth two Speed each.

I'll try the Lass, though. Thanks for the tip.

Edit: For Sp.Def, you could try surfing around the route up to the Pokemon League. Tentacruels and Mantines give two EVs for Sp.Def and the only other thing there are Pelippers, which are 2 Defense EVs.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 31, 2007, 08:58:55 pm
Cobra, I can do it now, if you want.

Sorry i missed it if your on the same time tonight (or day what ever time I'll try and be on then) we can trade then.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Darth Grievi on May 31, 2007, 09:16:41 pm
Okay, I'm getting a used GameBoy Advance...

What pokemon games are there for it? I'm a fan of the games, but I only played them sparringly on my cousin's DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 31, 2007, 09:27:31 pm
For GBA there is Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald. Also there is leaf green and Fire red which are remakes of the 1st 2 games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Darth Grievi on May 31, 2007, 09:39:18 pm
Cool, thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on May 31, 2007, 11:14:48 pm
Going away until Monday, sorry Cobra.

Luminar - Thanks for the training places.
/Lurk - Got my macho brace a while ago.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on May 31, 2007, 11:30:46 pm
Dang don't matter got plenty of time no hurry. I'd set it up now if i was at home but stuck at work.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on June 02, 2007, 02:34:12 pm
ok so i'm finally playing this game ( on my pc no less!) its pretty sweet :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 03, 2007, 05:02:00 am
For me the thing that makes Pokemon good is the idea of being able to trade with friends and battling them all which doesn't seem as do-able on PC.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on June 03, 2007, 06:07:49 am
Quote from: cobra
For me the thing that makes Pokemon good is the idea of being able to trade with friends and battling them all which doesn't seem as do-able on PC.

agreed. thats why i wait, and wait, and wait till the game comes out in europe....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on June 03, 2007, 12:47:42 pm
i don't think its do able unless they have some type of wifi connection thing that bypasses whatever, but i'll live without it i get everything else.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 03, 2007, 05:12:04 pm
Quote from: cobra
For me the thing that makes Pokemon good is the idea of being able to trade with friends and battling them all which doesn't seem as do-able on PC.

agreed. thats why i wait, and wait, and wait till the game comes out in europe....

Just order it you can still trade online perfectly fine. Also c14dude just get a DS and the Nintendo wifi USB stick it works great.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on June 03, 2007, 05:17:12 pm
yeah i'm thinking about getting a new ds, not sure yet. i'm a little low on cash and i'm saving for my new guitar so this is at the back of the list.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on June 03, 2007, 05:43:45 pm
What guitar are you getting?

(Actually this could do with its own topic, feel free to start one.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: c14dude on June 03, 2007, 05:50:35 pm
hmmm, where, in music?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on June 03, 2007, 06:15:48 pm
Sure, sounds about right.

No-one will ever see it there, but that's the price you pay.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 03, 2007, 09:39:16 pm
So everyone reading this go and look in the music section for guitar buying discussion. For now in this topic who has Pokemon they want o are trying to trade.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on June 04, 2007, 12:23:06 am
I'd really like a Shuckle, but I don't really have anything to offer, and I don't have much time to trade....
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 04, 2007, 05:00:07 pm
I think i should be able to get you one once I have access to the National Dex I'm almost up to the elite 4.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on June 04, 2007, 05:30:29 pm
So, yeah.
I got this game on friday, and I'm loving it so far.
Today was a great day for me on the game. First, I beat the third gym. Damn, that Lucario is a pain. I want one. :D
After the battle, my starter evolved into Torterra, and my Luxio also evolved.
Finally, I went and caught a shiny Roselia. It looks awesome.

On a more serious note, I can't seem to get Wifi to work.
My Wii picks up my router with ease, but my DS doesn't seem to want to.
Anyone got any ideas why?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 04, 2007, 06:07:02 pm
For my wifi adapter my DS needs to be in the same room to really be in range. Did everyone train a Shinx/Luxio/Luxray in there party to beat the game? A shiny Roselia sounds bad arse.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on June 04, 2007, 06:44:28 pm
My sweetheart caught no less than five shiny Phanphy the other day. It turns out, using the poké-radar, your chances of seeing a shiny increase as your chain of consecutive encounters with the same pokemon using the radar gets higher. Around 40 consecutive battles or so your chances will be significantly higher.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 04, 2007, 07:12:19 pm
Where do u get the Poke Radar?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on June 04, 2007, 09:10:32 pm
I know for sure it's somepoint after defeating the elite 4. I assume you got that far, right? Well, that wasn't much help. :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 04, 2007, 09:49:09 pm
I just beat the 8th gym last night so should have the elite 4 taken care of in a matter of days if not tonight if I get time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 05, 2007, 12:52:59 am
Cobra, if you still want I can trade.

Now I've already tried the shiny thing, but I'll go again.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Manna on June 05, 2007, 01:01:29 am
On a more serious note, I can't seem to get Wifi to work.
My Wii picks up my router with ease, but my DS doesn't seem to want to.
Anyone got any ideas why?

That same thing happened with me. The DS doesn't like encryption. So turn off encryption on your router and see if the DS works. When I'm using the DS I turn off encryption but block everyone except the mac addresses in my house (pcs, wii, ds etc). This is probably not the safest way to operate but you should at least try turning off encryption to see if that's the problem.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 05, 2007, 04:38:24 am
Can always turn it back on when you are done.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 05, 2007, 04:43:07 am
Cobra do you still need the trade?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Hammerman58 on June 05, 2007, 10:47:15 am
 I just got a copy of diamond for my birthday monday. Its a great game.i am having a bit of trouble deciding my team though. I choose the turtle to start with.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 05, 2007, 11:25:44 am
Aligon - I can hatch you a fresh Shuckle now!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 05, 2007, 05:01:43 pm
I still looking to get Palkia yes. next time i get on at night I'll do a trade although right now I'm in navigating victory road.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 06, 2007, 01:17:09 am
Argh!!!! I am trying to make a Pokéradar chain but it is way too difficult, my longest chain was only 13 pokemon long, followed by two 7s.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 06, 2007, 02:43:13 am
I still looking to get Palkia yes. next time i get on at night I'll do a trade although right now I'm in navigating victory road.

Getting Legendary Pokemon from the GTS is pretty easy.  I just offer up female Spiritomb and people seem to give me anything I ask for.  I've recieved multiple Dialga, Palkia's and even a Manaphy this way.  These were most probably cloned, but as long as they aren't down right hacked I can live with it.

And speaking of Manaphy, does anyone here have any of the other promo Pokemon, such as Mew?  The only one we were able to get here in the UK was Jirachi.  It's a little evil that they screwed us out of so many of the Pokemon, they could at least have given them away with other games.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 06, 2007, 02:48:25 am
Well, I have a legit manaphy. I traded for it but it is level 1, and says pokemon ranger.

You can get more then one manaphy in the game I heard, as long as you do the mission again in ranger.

I have loads of Dialgas and Palkias now. In fact you can have one if you want Cobra.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on June 06, 2007, 08:25:53 am
I have a Mew but it was a gift from my sweetheart. No way am I parting with that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 06, 2007, 10:28:37 am
Where did she get that Mew?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on June 06, 2007, 01:35:19 pm
Where did she get that Mew?

my sweetheart.

Could be a bloke.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 06, 2007, 01:38:55 pm
You can get more then one manaphy in the game I heard, as long as you do the mission again in ranger.

Unfortunately not.  If this was the case, I probably would have bought Ranger myself.  But Ranger will only ever give you one Manaphy.  You can't even start a new file to get more.   :(

I was hoping with Diamond and Pearl and the new wi-fi features they would be less evil with these promo Pokemon, but it seems things have only gotten worse.  I guess we have to wait and see what they do with Darkrai, but I'm counting on another silly event where you have to be in New York.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 06, 2007, 01:58:07 pm
At least when there are legit Darkrais they will appear on the GTS. Pity is you'll have to see one.

Will someone give me advice on creating pokeradar chains?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 06, 2007, 05:36:13 pm
I found this yesterday about getting some chains going sounds like fun can't wait to try it. http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=19695

I'm the type of person who would play Pokemon this long to try and do this. As for getting Palkia I mentioned before about a million times already in this thread i don't want to offer my Dialga on the GTS because I want get it back sure i can get a Dialga back from it but it wont be my Dialga.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 07, 2007, 01:12:26 am
Lol, I already saw that, following the rules just makes it harder.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on June 07, 2007, 08:16:59 am
Could be a bloke.

But isn't.

And she got it from the Toys R Us thing a while back in the US.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 07, 2007, 10:25:10 am
Cool.

The PokeRadar thing frustrates me, I have reached 17 so far.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Hammerman58 on June 10, 2007, 07:32:45 pm
Is there anyway to breed a male chimchar without a ditto? I tried with a female ponyta and i got like 20 ponytas now.  ???
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on June 11, 2007, 03:49:38 pm
Is there anyway to breed a male chimchar without a ditto? I tried with a female ponyta and i got like 20 ponytas now.  ???
I don't think so.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 11, 2007, 05:04:24 pm
When breeding the offspring will always be the same species as the mother every time with out fail. The only way to get it to be the same species as the male is a ditto in the female's place, that is the one and only way.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Hammerman58 on June 11, 2007, 06:40:33 pm
Can you see every pokemon on your game. Then only have to see your friends legendary.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 11, 2007, 09:59:24 pm
No if I have seen the Pokemon then I'd trade for them via the GTS and wouldn't need to ask now would I. So do you have them for trade or at least no where i might find an in game trainer so I can see them and then trade for them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: aligon on June 11, 2007, 11:49:58 pm
So anyone know where you see the first Shuckle in Pearl?
Is it after the league four?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 12, 2007, 01:10:34 am
Can you see every pokemon on your game. Then only have to see your friends legendary.

After beating the Elite Four, head back to Celastic Town, and go in the large house at the back of the town.  The woman there will tell you she found a book about legendary Pokemon, and will show you a picture of the opposite Legendary from your version.  That allows you to see every single Sinnoh Pokemon in the game, and get the National Dex.

As for Shuckle, you can only get him after you beat the Elite Four on route 224, and only with Emerald inserted into the DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 13, 2007, 05:08:39 pm
Hey I got a ditto I start breeding Pokemon if anyone wants anything from ruby just ask me I'll make it for you. Also help if you got any FR/LG starters.

Deleted and reposted to avoid a double post don't want to make too many of them today. Just wanted to find if anyone had any of the starters at all I been breeding the ones I got so i can hand something over if you want it. I mentioned what i have and I'll try and get anything else you ask for. Don't make me start trying to offer my one and only shiny Pokemon (I got the hard way). Worse yet start trying to do something like venturing into gamefaqs looking for Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 14, 2007, 09:50:31 pm
can someone explain how the move hidden power works? Best i can tell is the move's type depends on the IV of the Pokemon is there a way to know what type it will be or a way to influence it to help get STAB on certain Pokemon?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on June 17, 2007, 09:26:07 pm
Alright, Pilot showed me this topic since I couldn't find it. I did control f "pokemon" thinking that you guys would be too lazy to add in the accent on the e.

I need a good pokemon to beat the grass gym trainer. All I've got in terms of grass-resistant are a lv 11 Zubat who doesn't have any moves that do more than 1 HP damage, and a starovia or whatever they're called that doesn't have the defense to live past 2 hits. If someone could let me borrow like a level 30 fire thing for an hour that would be awesome. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 17, 2007, 09:50:45 pm
Like i said int he previous topic bug and flying attacks just level shouldn't take long. If you got Diamond there should be Murkrow in the Eterna Forest at night you should be able to defeat the grass using those just catch and go up a few levels.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on June 18, 2007, 10:53:48 am
Staravia should be able to tank Gardenia. Make sure it knows Wing Attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 18, 2007, 05:12:47 pm
I got a hold of both Squirtle and Bulbasaur last night looking for a Charmander if anyone wants to organise for a trade I got plenty of Pokemon to trade. Beldum, Ralts, Mudkip, Scyther, Lileep. Plus a few others.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on June 19, 2007, 09:49:53 pm
I thought this was funny.

(http://www.awkwardzombie.com/comic36.png)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 19, 2007, 10:49:57 pm
I always wonder how battles at sea really are going to work especially if you use the one you are surfing on.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 22, 2007, 05:13:08 pm
I thought this wasn't out yet?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on June 22, 2007, 05:27:49 pm
I thought this wasn't out yet?

It may not be out in Europe, but elsewhere it is. Others, like me, couldn't wait and just imported it.

On a different note, I still can't get my DS to connect to my router. My Wii works with it, but my DS doesn't, even if I'm sitting right on top of the router box.
If anyone can enlighten me as to why this is, it would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on June 22, 2007, 08:39:37 pm
Is your router encrypted? Some encryption types don't work on DS. Also, have you set up the wireless connection in game? It appears on the title screen below the entry to the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on June 23, 2007, 06:22:01 am
It has a WEP, but that works with the DS.
The second thing is what I'm trying to do, it doesn't even pick up my router when I search for it. :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 23, 2007, 04:47:50 pm
So what are the new pokemon like?

Because I got gold, but the pokemon mainly annoyed me, because they all seemed like half-hearted attempts, with stupid names or just being copies of original ones.

I never played any after that, but what are they like now?

I think I may appreciated them now, being thoroughly bored with the original 150.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on June 24, 2007, 08:22:43 am
I don't know if I'm stupid for saying this, but we had to unencrypt my router and put it on a mac address thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on June 24, 2007, 12:17:13 pm
So what are the new pokemon like?

Because I got gold, but the pokemon mainly annoyed me, because they all seemed like half-hearted attempts, with stupid names or just being copies of original ones.

I never played any after that, but what are they like now?

I think I may appreciated them now, being thoroughly bored with the original 150.

http://pokebeach.com/sprites/dp/1-50/

You can see them all there.  In my opinion Ruby/Sapphire were the worst games for creating copies of the original Pokemon, but there's nothing wrong with a bit of variety.  The designs for the new Pokemon are mostly pretty good, but it does still follow the same formula, with the three grass, fire and water starters.  Strange rat and bird type things that you can catch near the start, electric rodent, etc.

(The diamond/pearl Pokemon are #387 onwards.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on June 24, 2007, 02:26:11 pm
If anyone wants I can loan them a pokemon with more then 10 ribbons so they can gain access to the ribbon society.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on June 24, 2007, 02:27:40 pm
I recognise a lot actually, from gold and silver.

I am very tempted to get this. I have a DS coming. Greatest thing ever, we had our car broken into and a gameboy colour stolen. As they aren't made anymore, the insurance company are going to replace it with a DS :D:D:D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 24, 2007, 04:40:29 pm
it's worth getting if u like the Pokemon games sure the formula doesn't change much but if you enjoy it in the 1st place it ain't broken so don't fix it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on June 27, 2007, 11:00:46 pm
i would apprechiate it if somebody would trade my kadabra back and forth to make it evolve. and also, does it have to be holding an item? i thought it didn't since it's 1 gen i think, but i'm not sure.

my ingame name in VonBoy, and my code is 2234-3940-3962.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 27, 2007, 11:15:25 pm
It shouldnt but if you wait a little while I'll have a rhydon I'm planning to make into Rhyperiour but I'm not ready to yet. if you want to wait a while we can both do it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on June 28, 2007, 03:41:29 pm
um are you gonna be on today?]
it's 5:40PM here. i don't know if i can be on from 7pm-9pm, but after that, i plan to be up all night lol.

Edit: i got everybody from the freind code topic, including you cobra. so i'll be connected all night, i'll try to check every few minutes, so if i don't respond right away, thats why.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on June 28, 2007, 04:10:15 pm
I guess you saw my Arceus there Vonboy. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: vonboy on June 28, 2007, 04:13:42 pm
ya >:(. and thanks again for the trade.

EDIT: can you hack get me one lol.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on June 28, 2007, 04:28:08 pm
I can only get one out of my game. You're going to have to get it out of your copy through AR.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on June 28, 2007, 04:59:42 pm
I'm going to try and get to a Nintendo event over the weekend so I might have some event pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on June 28, 2007, 05:08:20 pm
This isn't confirmed but I think you can get event items through Pokemon Battle Revolution. Right now there are only some TMs and hold items you can buy, but there's the possiblity they can add the mystery gifts later.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on July 02, 2007, 03:39:50 pm
I can only get one out of my game. You're going to have to get it out of your copy through AR.

What is this?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on July 02, 2007, 04:00:46 pm
Arceus is an event Pokémon that requires an item to get to.
From what was said, I assume that Gec hacked the item into the game using an Action Replay, and caught Arceus normally.
So, as there is only one in each game, and he's already caught his, he can't just go out and get another.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 02, 2007, 11:50:58 pm
From what I have seen on various Pokemon boards that i have visited in search of trades. that means the Arceus is semi legit. Seeing the flute item needed to get Arceus was hacked instead of just hacking to get an Arceus.

Also wondering is anybody actually capable of cloning Pokemon? Not that I want any cloned or anything just curious (As long as u aren't using the USB wifi stick from Nintendo I think u are capable of cloning).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bona Fide Supraman on July 03, 2007, 05:26:27 pm
Will all of this make sense when I actually get the game?

Or is it all cheating stuff...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 03, 2007, 07:07:27 pm
Cloning is done by exploiting a glitch in the game's wifi.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on July 03, 2007, 11:59:34 pm
I've decided on my team for after I get the National Dex, it's in my sig.

Can anyone think of any improvements?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 04, 2007, 04:36:20 am
Yeah change everything not because its a bad team but because now everyone knows your team they. can plan to counter it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 04, 2007, 05:35:35 am
A strong fire type could wipe out half your team.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 04, 2007, 06:15:26 am
Especially something like a Blaziken it fast enough to go go 1st its fire side will beat eggsecutor, Skarmory, the Syther evolution, it's fighting side will take down Kubutops, and Cloyster. Leaves your Monferno against a team of 6.

Like i said make some radical changes simply because anyone who you face is now expecting your team. Practically expect a well built Heracross with a team like that  and get a better bulky water type.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on July 04, 2007, 09:15:57 am
Practically expect a well built Heracross with a team like that  and get a better bulky water type.

Like...Wailord?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 04, 2007, 01:45:38 pm
I need to do a trade evolution with someone.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 04, 2007, 09:59:26 pm
Practically expect a well built Heracross with a team like that  and get a better bulky water type.

Like...Wailord?

While Wailord might be a decent choice it was made a stupid choice by the fact you once again told everyone else on the forum that you plan on having it in your team. Cloyster was a fine choice to begin with but like I said you told us that it is apart of your team.

The best Pokemon you can have on your is one we don't know u have got on your team. Skarmory can be a double edged sword it's a great pokemon so great that a lot of people use it which means a lot of people plan teams designed to be able to counter it. By placing Skarmory in your team and telling everyone you remove the mystery and people can plan to counter it.

You don't actually have to change your team if you don't want to just make at least make people think you might have. Don't tell them if you have changed it or what you changed it to if you do change it. The secret to a good Pokemon team is a team with surprises that your opponent does not expect.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 05, 2007, 01:59:43 am
I'm not going to plan my team around someone else's, that's just unsporting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 05, 2007, 03:50:56 am
Yeah but some others may not be so nice I already have my team planned. So technically announcing your team wont effect me unless I found out everyone by some fluke has a team to squish mine.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on July 05, 2007, 08:16:48 am
I don't really care if people know my team.

I'll just pack some surprises into my sleeves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 05, 2007, 12:50:05 pm
(http://cards.pokecharms.com/create/f038be01fa575da437567ed345c4bc4c.png)

It's a pretty good team, I made sure there is no huge weaknesses, and they're all duel types.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 05, 2007, 08:40:29 pm
Dual types can produce dual weakness obviously Spiritomb is ultimate in that it cancels it's self out. Still there can be issues such as your Golem having x4 weakness ot Grass or even water which is common and Garydos having x4 weakness to Electric which is very common in a sweeper.

Does anyone know how effective the new Magnaton evoltuion is as a Skarmory counter? I know Magnaton was a somewhat popular counter previously but had few other uses has it been improved on now?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 06, 2007, 03:12:39 am
Does anyone know how effective the new Magnaton evoltuion is as a Skarmory counter? I know Magnaton was a somewhat popular counter previously but had few other uses has it been improved on now?

It has Magnet Pull to stop the thing escaping, and has a special attack stat on par with Alakazam, and high defenses.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 06, 2007, 06:53:17 am
Sounds like they beefed it up should help with over using Skarmory. I did considar looking to put it in my team but my team is set up fine for Skarmory threats. At least i hope it is done up well enough. With people mentioning there teams so far I been considaring maybe making it part of the tournament to announce teams or something that we we all level playing field and can provide suggestions possibly for even battling outside our liike corner of the net.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 06, 2007, 11:53:18 am
Dual types can produce dual weakness obviously Spiritomb is ultimate in that it cancels it's self out. Still there can be issues such as your Golem having x4 weakness ot Grass or even water which is common and Garydos having x4 weakness to Electric which is very common in a sweeper.

Does anyone know how effective the new Magnaton evoltuion is as a Skarmory counter? I know Magnaton was a somewhat popular counter previously but had few other uses has it been improved on now?

If they take out an electric type I'll just switch to Golem and kill it, if they take out a water i'll just switch to Magnezone and kill it. Yay!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on July 06, 2007, 12:05:16 pm
Sounds like they beefed it up should help with over using Skarmory. I did considar looking to put it in my team but my team is set up fine for Skarmory threats. At least i hope it is done up well enough. With people mentioning there teams so far I been considaring maybe making it part of the tournament to announce teams or something that we we all level playing field and can provide suggestions possibly for even battling outside our liike corner of the net.

I suggest that participants all PM the organiser their teams, he posts them all before the start, and they're allowed to make one change from their posted team for any given match up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Person21 on July 09, 2007, 05:16:52 am
Ok, sorry if this has been asked, but don't have time to look throught 77, and I couldn't find anything helpful on serebii.net, but were can I find waterfall?  :-[
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 09, 2007, 06:18:04 am
Use Veekun, not Serebii. Serebii seriously needs to die. Both the site and the proprietor.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 09, 2007, 07:02:15 am
Taken from Gamefaqs

HM07 - Waterfall (Physical)

Type:         Water
PP:           15
Power:        80
Accuracy:     100
Information:  Outside of battle, this will allow you to climb waterfalls.
              Inside of battle, nothing special as far as added effects go.
Location:     Jasmine in Sunyshore City (On the small beach)
Suggestion:   Use on a Water Pokemon with a high attack (Gyarados is good).

It's the north part of the town just before you surf along route 223 your way towards Victory road. on the sand is a girl talk to her she will give you the HM saying you need it to reach Victory road. (You should be talking to everyone anyway.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Person21 on July 09, 2007, 08:45:24 am
Right, thanks,  :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 11, 2007, 09:22:18 am
I need the dex entries for the johto legendaries (Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Lugia, Ho-oh) and Deoxys, but have no way to get them at all. Does anyone have em so I can trade for em to get the dex entries? I'll trade em right back afterwards, since I don't actually want them, just the entries.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 21, 2007, 01:32:48 am
So is it just me or has this game worn off for everyone else as well?

I havn't played in a week.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 21, 2007, 01:38:15 am
omg european release in 6 days. FINALY! we get to buy the game while you guys have played it for a few months now! >:(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 21, 2007, 02:00:16 am
I have to admit I haven't played as much I'm trying to find time to prepare my next pokemon that I'll use anytime I do competitive battles.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on July 21, 2007, 04:18:30 am
omg european release in 6 days. FINALY! we get to buy the game while you guys have played it for a few months now! >:(

Yay! Now I just need to buy a DS lite to replace my crappy broken DS.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 21, 2007, 06:15:19 am
You seriously should have just imported because really that wait sucks I know we took for ever to get the game but damn.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 21, 2007, 11:23:20 am
So is it just me or has this game worn off for everyone else as well?

I havn't played in a week.

I'd play if I could finish my damn dex off! I don't feel like I can do anything else until i've completed my current task, and since so far ive found no-one with the johto legendaries and deoxys, I can't finish it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 21, 2007, 10:14:24 pm
Just jump on a major web forum risk your soul on Game faqs or something.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 22, 2007, 06:27:17 am
Thing is I don't want the pokemon as such, just the dex entries. I'd be happy to trade back and forth, but from what ive seen on GameFAQs you pretty much need shinys or legendaries to get anything out of anyone.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 22, 2007, 03:26:06 pm
Action Replay. I have all the entires yet I don't own most of them at all. This helps me to be able to request any Pokemon I want through GTS.

I managed to catch a genuine shiny spinark myself during my travels. I then evolved it so does anyone want it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 22, 2007, 06:23:35 pm
I managed to get all the starters via gamefaqs no problem. You can always put something up on the GTS because you garanteed someone will eventually give you what you want for what you offer. The better the deal the sooner it happens though. I got an Aerodactyl up there for a Groudon i already had a Groudon but i didn't want to trade it so i used this new one to trade for a Mewtwo.

It's kind of that tiny red paper clip thing just keep trading up. The GTS you can trade anything for anything but if you want to not fill the GTS with crap offers you can always just make smaller steps.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 23, 2007, 04:56:40 pm
Starters are a dime a dozen cos everyone breeds them. Thing is, I can't use the GTS to get the legendaries because I haven't seen them. I can't ask for them in return for anything or even look for them because the gap in my dex is for both seen and caught, it's a blank space.

Also on gameFAQs they tend to rip you right off for legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 23, 2007, 06:22:54 pm
If u seen any legendaries u good to go I said trade for a legendary you have seen u say u only need the johto's and deoxy's which implaies u have Hoenn legendaries if u got them ask for those over GTS and when u get a Hoenn legendary trade it on Gamefaqs for a johto one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on July 24, 2007, 07:05:52 am
If u seen any legendaries u good to go I said trade for a legendary you have seen u say u only need the johto's and deoxy's which implaies u have Hoenn legendaries if u got them ask for those over GTS and when u get a Hoenn legendary trade it on Gamefaqs for a johto one.

what that sentence make no sense it haev no punctuation

u tipe that whilst drunk?

Come on, Cobra. You were starting to get better. Don't slip again.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 24, 2007, 06:44:16 pm
Sorry ever since i got a new PC I re-downloaded Mozilla on to it and for some reason the spell check feature isn't working. As a result I havent been re-reading my posts so both Spelling and Grammer has suffered. I'll try to improve again.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on July 25, 2007, 02:30:41 am
Glee. ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 08:51:20 am
Someone was offering a shiny Deoxys for a lvl 100 Dusclops. I frantically went to catch one, gave it a whole mess of candies. I go back only to find that they keep changing their offers. I was going to get it for you guys for your dex but oh well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 25, 2007, 11:00:28 am
I doubt they changed the offer, the offer was probably taken and you saw a different one. Lv100 Dusclopses aren't unthinkable even if they evolve, given they were supposedly quite useful in the 3rd gen and might have been transferred over.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 11:05:17 am
I doubt they changed the offer, the offer was probably taken and you saw a different one.

Nope. It was the same trainer.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 25, 2007, 11:10:34 am
They should make the GTS cancel trades that ask for pokemon from levels before they were supposed to evolve to that form. I think they're just doing that to tease us or making it impossible so they can clone. Next time I see that, I'm action replaying one and trading! MWUHAHAHAHAA!

It'd screw up someone's game and they'd hate me. ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 11:26:31 am
They might have the codes for spawning ones but you're going to have to search hard for those, they're not included in AR.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 25, 2007, 11:41:24 am
For god's sake, do it. Do it EN MASSE. I'm SICK TO DEATH of seeing this plague of Lv. 9 or Below MEW.

Wipe them out. ALL OF THEM.
Also hax me them legendaries while you're at it kthx
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 11:43:37 am
LOL, ok.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 25, 2007, 11:53:53 am
They might have the codes for spawning ones but you're going to have to search hard for those, they're not included in AR.

I have the pokemon modifier code that turns wild pokemon into any other pokemon, but they still have the level (but only level) of the pokemon they're replacing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 12:15:54 pm
http://www.pokemonpalace.net/index.php?id=nds/dp_ar-cb_jap (http://www.pokemonpalace.net/index.php?id=nds/dp_ar-cb_jap)

They only have the Japanese version. :'( I'm not one who likes to search so if you guys find something let me know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 01:01:02 pm
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

It worked! The code you gave me worked Always! I got a lvl 4 Mew!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 25, 2007, 01:04:58 pm
One of many that you shall use to exterminate the GTS heretics! Exterminate! EXTERMINAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 01:05:49 pm
It won't let me trade it...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 25, 2007, 01:15:23 pm
Hmm, I didn't know that.

D... Do you want a hug?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 01:19:53 pm
It's not like I can't spawn my own Deoxys. It's just that I won't get that shiny or clear out all those dumb offers on GTS.

Want to test in on a wifi trade?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 25, 2007, 01:21:41 pm
I can definetly do it on a wi-fi trade, but I've never tried GTS.

Maybe it's just Mew? Try a more common pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 01:32:23 pm
Pikachu.

I'm loging in.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 25, 2007, 07:18:14 pm
Where can i get an Action replay I might buy a copy of pearl that i can use as a hax game. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 25, 2007, 07:23:14 pm
I bought mine at a Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on July 27, 2007, 09:49:32 am
i JUST got this! tho im now2 stuck at work and cant play it... meanwhile my lil bro has 7 hours to get ahead of me :(

cant remember why i never imported this, but it got released 2day in Europe, so here i come!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 28, 2007, 01:44:42 am
bought it yesterday! it rules! ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 28, 2007, 01:54:49 am
Alright, if any of the newbies want anything, help (I got the guide, and I've completed it :P), pokemon, or items, contact me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 28, 2007, 02:06:16 am
can you trade pokemon right away? or do you have to reach a certain point in the game?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 28, 2007, 02:12:19 am
You have to reach Oreburgh city and go downstairs in the pokemon centre to get a pal pad and stuff, also, you must have wireless internet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 28, 2007, 02:15:56 am
ok thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on July 28, 2007, 04:59:44 am
If you hate the starters i can get you any of the oens from previous generatons although I'll have to re-set up my wifi connection
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 28, 2007, 05:10:56 am
I can too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 28, 2007, 06:25:38 am
thanks, but my dad is 1000 procent against gaming. so he wont give me the code to our wireless internet. but i'll get behind it myself....  >;D

oh, lemme post my friendcode in the friendcode thread.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 10:08:45 am
Anyone managed to hax up those legendaries yet? Waiting around is getting RIGHT on my nerves since ive asked about 5 different people and they've been unable to for various reasons.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on July 29, 2007, 12:38:42 pm
Anyone managed to hax up those legendaries yet? Waiting around is getting RIGHT on my nerves since ive asked about 5 different people and they've been unable to for various reasons.

a friend of mine hacked the game. he has all the legendaries multiple times, including Arceus i can have them too!  :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 29, 2007, 01:12:12 pm
Anyone managed to hax up those legendaries yet? Waiting around is getting RIGHT on my nerves since ive asked about 5 different people and they've been unable to for various reasons.

a friend of mine hacked the game. he has all the legendaries multiple times, including Arceus i can have them too!  :D

Well, I can do that too, but I don't see the point in hacking loads of Arceus'. It's actually pretty bad.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 02:09:40 pm
That's not the point I was getting at. The point was has anyone here, IE available for me to trade with, got the Johto legendaries and Deoxys available to trade yet. And don't say you're lazy or anything cos the others i've asked have got a ton of problems IRL or their DS's are unavailable or whatever so as far as it goes, "lazy" is a pretty flaky excuse next to the others i've asked. Just gimme yes or no.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 29, 2007, 03:33:04 pm
I can.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 03:43:16 pm
Superawesome. Anythin you want in return?

Oh, while i'm at it since I just remembered, here's a tidbit of knowledge for good Vs. Seeker trainers.. i'll probably add to the list as I find more good trainers to.. um.. train with.

VETERAN BRIAN
Appearance: Old Man
Location: First trainer east of Celestic (Route 210)
Required HMs: Defog

Lv58 Male Floatzel - 2211 xp                                                               
Lv60 Male Machamp - 2481 xp
Lv59 Male Girafarig - 1882 xp

Total XP: 6574
EVs: 2 Speed, 3 Attack, 2 Sp. Attack
Money: 4800

PI CARLOS
Appearance: White clothes, Black hair
Location: Fenced path south of Veilstone (Route 214)
Required HMs: None

Lv56 Male Seaking - 2040 xp
Lv57 Male Seaking - 2076 xp
Lv58 Male Seaking - 2112 xp

Total XP: 6228
EVs: 6 Attack
Money: 6960
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 29, 2007, 03:49:12 pm
Just give me crap. I'll release them anyways.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 03:51:18 pm
Hokay. You got them ready now or what? I'll shove yer code in and hop on wifi if your'e ready.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 29, 2007, 03:56:26 pm
I'm already waiting.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 03:58:36 pm
Ugh, my connection doesnt seem to be doing very good...

EDIT: Rebooted my router. If it doesn't work now i'll hazard a guess the problem's on your end...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on July 29, 2007, 04:06:01 pm
Mine's doing it too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on July 29, 2007, 04:14:45 pm
AWESOME man. I seriously can't thank you enough for that. Lemme know if I can ever return the favor.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on July 30, 2007, 03:29:38 am
Aw, now I feel bad.

I seem to have lost my game anyway, I was going to offer to do it. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 03, 2007, 03:48:10 am
hey ho. Can any of u guys do a quick trade with me so can evolve my haunter? (and trade it back obviously...)

oh, and if anyone has the grass and water starters that would be nice....

and if anyone has a metal coat.... could we use it to evolve my onix?


i honestly only thought of the last two as i was writing this :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 03, 2007, 03:49:50 am
oh... im in England, so its fine if your all asleep :) if anyone can help me... let me know what time of day
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 03, 2007, 03:59:42 am
I think I can do it now, PM me.

We're not all American. :D I'm Irish.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 03, 2007, 04:41:46 am
Thanks again! i didnt realise i wouldnt b able to access the storage boxes :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 03, 2007, 04:44:52 am
I know, that annoys me too. Think how easier trading would be if you could just trade directly from the boxes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 03, 2007, 06:00:31 pm
I finally caved and got this game today. Two gym badges in so far. It seems a bit overly familiar after Sapphire, but I'm liking the Poketch and the Underground. I'm not liking the fact that I've so far been able to breeze through using just two Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 04, 2007, 12:00:34 am
If you keep grinding so your only a few levels above anything you face you don't need all 6 pokemon until the elite 4. I so got to put an XP partition on my PC so I can get my wifi back on.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 04, 2007, 04:44:29 am
Just a question bout the GTS...

does one person always have to accept a trade? or does it match people up automatically?

erm example... i put on Graveler (lvl 22, male) and am seeking a Roselia (any level, either gender)
if someone has a Roselia on and is seeking a Gravler (any level, either gender). Do we automatically trade?

does that make sense? i guess it doesnt REALLY matter in the long run, but it would be nice if it happened like that. would save time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 04, 2007, 05:27:19 am
No trades only work if you search and make the trade your self. The game wont find people already offering what you seek for what you offer and make that trade.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 04, 2007, 05:42:50 am
yeah i thought so  :-\

seemed that wud b tricky for nintendo to pull off. ho hum
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 04, 2007, 01:30:29 pm
That's EXACTLY what I thought they shoulda done too. :-/
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 05, 2007, 11:41:15 am
i dont know where i found 40hours to play this game.... seriously, i thought id put in 20 max! value for money all the way
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 05, 2007, 08:32:41 pm
I clocked about 160 only thing I dont really have a time where i sit to play DS anymore. Also seeing most of what I would be doign now is EV training and breeding for pokemon I just dont feel like it if i find a pokemon I want to train it be no problem though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: stuck on August 05, 2007, 09:29:10 pm
I perfected my Tyrannitar with EVs and Breeding all the way. Took a hell of a long time so I used someone's action replay to steal me some Rare Candies.

Now for my other 5 battle-mons. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 05, 2007, 10:11:09 pm
I just use high enough level zigzagoons for rarecandy getting. even then u dont need that much candy just enough to get pokemon to a good enough level to get an acurate enough reading on its IVs. I generally dont go for perfect IVs just good enough int he right areas to complement the species.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 06, 2007, 03:52:10 am
so if a pokemon has pickup, do the items get better the higher the level!??!

i always assumed they just picked up the hidden items on the floor...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Bastardman on August 06, 2007, 05:58:57 am
Yeah, they do. At higher levels you can get Earthquake and Focus Punch TMs. There's a table on Serebii that tells you exactly what items you get at which levels.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 11, 2007, 03:01:20 pm
OMG.... okay. i JUST beat the elite four and champion (yay). I went into the 1st room kinda by accident and saved forgetting i couldnt just leave if i found it too hard. oh yeah, my team were all between lvl 45 and 49. this wasn't going to be fun.

surprisingly i found the first four okay! at least two of my pokemon fainted each time i think, thankfully had stocked up on a fair few revives b4 i went in. Started the final battle and was doin okay, got to her last pokemon (her lvl 66 dragon one...) quietly confident that i should be able to take it as i had 5 pokemon left.

Infernape died, one hit
Roserade died, one hit
Crobat died, one hit

oh daaaaaamnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

sent out Gengar thinking i could use his newly learned move... destinany bond! i felt so dirty thinking i would win with that move...

Gengar died... in critical hit, before i could use it (does dragon rush let you move 1st? or was it just too fast?)

oh daaaaamnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

okay... i knew last pokemon, Diaglia, wouldn' be able to take it (lvl 49....) so i sent it out, revived Gengar, Diaglia died, Go Gengar, revived Crobat, Gengar died, Go Crobat, revived Gengar, Crobat survived with 2 health! Revived Infernape, Crobat died, Go Gengar, tried to use Destiny bond... got dragon rushed again.

and so it continued, each time i was LAMELY hoping dragon rush wouldnt kill Gengar and i would get my cheap victory, until i had just 3 revives left and i was preparing for defeat, then suddenly...

foes *big dragon thingy* used Earthquake!

YES. it had run outa PP! and it didnt have ANY other moves that could harm my wonderful Gengar (giga impact, brickbreak, earthquake) WOOPIE!!!

so i slowly, Gengar being lvl 51 now, shadow balled (twice, no PP) and dark pulsed it to death!

Voila! I'm a champion! tho i feel so dirty :(

oh well. thought u guys might appreciate the story.

a few questions now:

where do i get an eevee?
where do i get a ditto?
which is better... scope lens or razor claw?
did anyone else's say FIN at the end of the credits? what was that about? did i wait MONTHS for an "english" version, only for them to forget to fully translate the ending? not the biggest problem, i'll admit, but a lil annoying!

also... whats the easiest way to catch uxie and ... the other lake legendary that isnt mespirit? i tried for a while but when it wouldnt stay in 10 dusk balls and 14 ultra balls while paralized and a slither of health, i got annoyed and gave up. im gona try again in a minute with more balls. any advice?


well this has been a long post! ho hum
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 11, 2007, 07:29:07 pm
Eevee you can get from the person you designed the computer pokemon storage system I can't remember the name of the town theya re from. the house is like next to the the pokemon centre if memory serves just cant think of the town name right now I'll look it up in a second.

Ditto is easy once you got the Poke radar head to the route just east of Conclave city i think it's called use it in the grass you should find one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 12, 2007, 03:24:43 am
awesome :) i found the eevee just before reading this actually! and managed to catch uxie and azlef last night

uxie took ages, but eventually stayed in a timer ball.
azlef wiped out my team 1st time (nasty plot maxed s.att then confusion and future sight) while i was lobbing balls, but stayed in a dusk ball 1st time when i re-tried!

thanks for ditto advice will try that in a bizzle.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 12, 2007, 04:33:20 am
Never helps to have a dark pokemon on your team. Also when catching rares it's made easier to paralize them then spam there accuracy right down with sand attack or anything else similar, then u can whittle the HP to as low as you like.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 12, 2007, 07:39:00 am
i have my ditto now :D let the breeding commence!

do you get an egg every hour outa curiosity? if not how does it work?

so the pokeradar... what other pokemon can i find with it? i've found a flaaffy, grimer, smeargle and a mightyena. oh, and ditto. any chance of an absol? i like those.

and the mansion man said there were azurill in his garden... but i cudnt find one. is there a trick?


i had other questions, but i forgot them, so obviously not that important :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 12, 2007, 09:52:04 am
i worked out eggs bein laid was on steps btw! yay for all my eevee babies!
now onto the starters :D

anyone know where the super rod is?
and the best place to hatch eggs?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 13, 2007, 08:08:15 am
Best place to hatch eggs is just at the breeding centre.  Get on the bike, and just ride up and down on that route.  That way you can even see when the guy has more eggs for you.

I really need to get back to playing the game.  I hatched around 300 Charmanders in an attempt to find a Shiny one, but no luck.  At least I have my Golem.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 13, 2007, 09:54:58 am
Isn't there only one place to make eggs? Or does Benj mean a place where you can actually accelerate the egg incubation time? If so I'd like to know.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on August 13, 2007, 10:02:47 am
Yeah, the breeding centre route is the best one for hatching. I tend to loop around the raining route on the right as well, though, as the basic up and down method is well... a bit boring.

When hatching, try to keep a Pokémon with Magma Armour or Flame Body abilities in your team. I'm not entirely sure how it works, but it lowers the amount of steps needed to hatch.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 13, 2007, 10:31:51 am
Body heat promotes hatching, that's why.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 13, 2007, 01:13:56 pm
You need to keep it in a slot next to the egg in your party or it won't work, though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on August 13, 2007, 02:31:52 pm
Ah, ambiguity.

I was referring to how the game mechanism works, whether it just has to be in the party, or if it had to be next to the Eggs.
Now I know. Thanks Lurk.

Heh. I suppose that means that there was some logic behind me putting my Magcargo in slot 2 of my party, when doing breeding cycles, then. ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 13, 2007, 10:01:09 pm
You need to keep it in a slot next to the egg in your party or it won't work, though.

I always wondered about that if the flame body position in party affects things now is it just the egg that comes before and after or is it up down and to left and right?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Daxx on August 14, 2007, 06:07:04 am
did anyone else's say FIN at the end of the credits? what was that about? did i wait MONTHS for an "english" version, only for them to forget to fully translate the ending? not the biggest problem, i'll admit, but a lil annoying!

Fin is French, and is traditionally placed at the end of artsy films as a finisher. It's very common to see in English language things, so it's not a mistranslation.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 14, 2007, 10:03:53 am
Even the japanese version would have something like that. It's kind of an internationally accepted way of saying "The End."
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 15, 2007, 03:00:20 am
my lack of gaming experience shines through :D

location of super rod and water stone anyone?
Or are there any gd sites for items etc?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 15, 2007, 03:45:51 am
no worries, found it :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: sltlamina on August 15, 2007, 05:20:47 am
Any idea when the 'combined', or, 'middle' version will come out. You know like there was Gold, and Silver, then Crystal. Then Ruby, and Sapphire, then Emerald.

Diamond, Pearl, ???
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on August 15, 2007, 06:35:33 am
I've heard it was going to be called Pokemon Platinium.

But for some reason, going from metals to gems back to metals doesn't seem logical.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on August 15, 2007, 03:05:13 pm
Opal.

Giratina > Portmanteau of Girasol, Girasol = Opal.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 19, 2007, 03:14:25 am
okay.... the trophy garden?

we always says there are... chansey (example) but when i look, there aren't any. *grumbles* is there a way to get the trophy pokemon? also. i want to know what are in his secret rooms! can u get in them?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 19, 2007, 04:15:25 am
No.

And Chansey isn't in there, it is rare in the grass south of solaceon town.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 19, 2007, 04:30:34 am
chansey was just todays pokemon :)

so u cant catch any of the pokemon he says he saw? whats the point?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 19, 2007, 05:10:47 am
Oh, well you do catch the pokemon he saw they're still rare in the garden though.

Didn't know you could get chanseys.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on August 20, 2007, 01:28:22 am
They're rare to a point they're not worth looking for.   :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: sltlamina on August 20, 2007, 01:40:49 am
Eh, she got Diamond anyway (my sis)

It was so awesome when I found out that Eevee finally had a leaf evolution...and an ice one!

And when I saw the next stages to Magmar, Electabuzz etc etc, at least they closed a few doors there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 20, 2007, 05:01:36 am
They're rare to a point they're not worth looking for.   :-\

Use the Pokeradar.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 21, 2007, 02:55:08 am
ARGH. not pokemon related, but i just failed my driving test for the 2nd time :(

first time someone nearly hit me (he had to emergency stop as he was goin too fast, so i fail.)!
this time somone smashed into a bmw on the bypass infront of me, and i was so nervous after i didnt look in my mirrors enough. EURGH.

anyway, so this post doesnt get deleted or anything like that i shall go back to topic.

pokeradar didnt work in the garden for me, iv given up looking in there.

OH, anyone got a larvitar for me? or can i catch them anywhere?
il check GTS in a sec anyway.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 21, 2007, 03:02:20 am
You know there are other topics on this forum some of which are related to driving and cars you could have posted that there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 21, 2007, 03:15:16 am
sorry :( i had to vent.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 21, 2007, 03:31:31 am
I guess just take note it's a big wide forum with many interesting topics feel free to read and take part in the others. The people wont bite at least as long as you don't make too many noob mistakes. Either way we have been off topic long enough.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 21, 2007, 03:49:27 am
I can supply almost any pokemon you know. ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 21, 2007, 08:05:25 am
no worries :) found the lil fella.

any pokemon you say?
will hold ya to that sometime!

shall i assume hacked? or do you have you jus spent ages collecting?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 21, 2007, 08:41:40 am
*ahem* :-[
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 21, 2007, 09:01:19 am
*shrugs* so wheres the best place to train?

i wana lvl up some newly hatched and low lvls, i've beaten the elite four, so i think i can go anywhere?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 21, 2007, 11:30:30 am
Well, obviously I'd recommend Exp. Share and the Elite four.

Well, I have a lot of non-hacked pokemon, a lot. But if I don't I can get them. Not exactly by just hacking them into my possesion... Just forcing me to run into one in the wild. ;) I generally dislike handing out rare legendaries though.

Oh yeah, and Eli can get you pokemon too. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Blarg on August 21, 2007, 06:55:36 pm
I might begetting a DS soon, and am wondering... which version is better, Diamond or Pearl? Or does it matter?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 21, 2007, 07:55:29 pm
It's all the same although I think Diamond is a bit more common basically means you could make the argument that when trading Pearl pokemon would be more valuable bit int he end it really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Werechicken on August 22, 2007, 05:23:12 am
Diamond has the best exclusive pokemon
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 22, 2007, 05:35:14 am
Yup, they all look cooler.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on August 23, 2007, 04:41:03 am
how many pokeballs did it take before you guys caught your palkia/dialga? i had to throw just 3 ultraballs. then i got it

first ultraball: one shake
second ultraball: 3 shakes but it got out again
third ultraball: 3 shakes and i got it!

is it that easy or was i lucky?


Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 23, 2007, 04:53:37 am
I caught Dialga in two turns.


1 - Weakened him straight into red.
2 - Threw dusk ball.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on August 23, 2007, 05:06:48 am
I caught Dialga in two turns.


1 - Weakened him straight into red.
2 - Threw dusk ball.

Heh. I did exactly the same with Palkia. Dusk balls are overpowered, I think I must have caught all of my legends in them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 23, 2007, 05:17:32 am
Yup.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on August 23, 2007, 11:45:41 am
also, what will happen when you catch all unown? will the digging guy find something? ??? i just need unown Y, then i have them all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 23, 2007, 12:11:06 pm
I got em all. You can have Y if you want.

Once you get the alphabet the digger finds a cavern full of ! and ? unown. This helps to spell messages with the seals.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 23, 2007, 12:43:47 pm
I got 'em all. I only made one seal that spelt out "holy crap" though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 23, 2007, 02:39:56 pm
I usually write insults or brags.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on August 23, 2007, 02:43:24 pm
What kind of insults can you make with a limit of 8 letters?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Blarg on August 23, 2007, 05:02:24 pm
I guess I'm gonna go with Pearl. Just cuz.

If I ever get it, I'll put up my codes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 23, 2007, 07:37:16 pm
Diagla ican't remember how many it took me to catch I just use my standard catching method throw out my level 10 pikachu one hit KO paralyse on contact spam accuracy lowering moves then spend all day getting health as low as possible then chuck dusk balls timer balls and ultra balls.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 26, 2007, 02:48:52 pm
mespirit and cresselia (spelt right?) take waaaayyyyyy to long to catch. i ended up giving my lil bro 50p to keep pressing A, to continuously throw ultra balls, while he watched cartoons. he ended up using about 60 i think for cresselia :) ho hum

outa curiosity, HOW can a sleeping pokemon flee? that annoyed me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on August 27, 2007, 12:35:06 am
i have found thé way to catch mespirit. you know, the one that flees. go to sandgem town, and walk up to route 202. when you're on route 202, walk back to the town. you'll see that mespririt has moved. mostly towards you. now walk back to route 202, and back to the city. mespirit has moved closer to your position. now keep on doing this until mespirit appears (according to your radar) on the first grassfield you find on route 202. you have infinite chances of finding him! i encountered him 9 times (!) in 5 minutes. ;)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: benjaminge on August 27, 2007, 03:50:12 am
yeah i did somethig pretty similar :) i had both of them on the same route at one point, saved, turned off, came back, realised they reset when you turn off. damn.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 27, 2007, 04:10:30 am
I just trained loads of pokemon to level 50 then sold them for master balls, then used them to catch the legendaries. :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 27, 2007, 07:33:02 pm
I got cressila I think it called but I just used a master ball I havent been bothered trying to get a mean looker or anything like that to try mespirit.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 29, 2007, 01:27:13 pm
Oh. My. God.

Is Spiritomb possible the best pokemon EVER?

Here I am, facing a really tough opponent over the DS wireless, my friends brother. He was surprisingly good. I was down to my last pokemon, a spirtomb, and he was too, a golem. However, his Golem had full health and mine had 10 hp.

As usual, I use Hypnosis, and thank Darwin it worked. And dream eater tipped the scales, somehow draining almost all of golems health and (probably because of the big root spiritomb was holding) filled spiritombs. Hooray. I win.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 29, 2007, 07:17:26 pm
Some how a pokemon with no actual weakness what's not to love.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 30, 2007, 09:12:01 am
Sucky attacks, and it's one of the slowest things EVAR.

I reckon Metagross is the Best Pokemon, outside of Ubers.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on August 31, 2007, 10:38:22 am
Some how a pokemon with no actual weakness what's not to love.

Use foresight on it and hit it with fighting moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on August 31, 2007, 11:30:03 am
What does foresight do?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on August 31, 2007, 11:57:10 am
it makes pokemon hitable with attacks it was immune for.  like normal moves on ghosts.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on August 31, 2007, 02:24:37 pm
It also resets accuracy, removing the effects of Double Team and Sand Attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on August 31, 2007, 11:25:27 pm
I really should look into my team again can't rememeber what I had set up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on September 12, 2007, 07:47:10 am
yaah spiritomb sure is the awesomeness. its really powerfull and it HAS no weakness.  ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on September 25, 2007, 04:52:06 pm
You guys should probably check this out. (http://www.pokemon-gts.net/)

This will greatly improve your GTS experience, it's pretty neat. It's like watching the stock market. You can see trades as they happen on a virtual globe and see which Pokemon are the most popular.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 25, 2007, 07:47:57 pm
Wow that is sweet.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on September 26, 2007, 01:15:24 am
thats just awesome! :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Met on September 26, 2007, 07:21:44 am
Apparently, on September 29 between noon and 3, Toys'R'Us are giving away Manaphys. That's just what I heard. They usually do the pokemon give away thing. Either cards or in-game stuff. Don't know exact details but if your interested you should look it up.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on September 26, 2007, 07:53:56 am
there's nothing about that on their dutch site.... :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on September 27, 2007, 02:39:10 am
You guys should probably check this out. (http://www.pokemon-gts.net/)

This will greatly improve your GTS experience, it's pretty neat. It's like watching the stock market. You can see trades as they happen on a virtual globe and see which Pokemon are the most popular.

I saw this a few days ago and thought it was pretty cool..  But there's still no way to find out what people want in return for their Pokemon.  Okay, so I can see this guy has put up a Manaphy..  But what does he want for it?   :-\  That was the biggest problem with the GTS in the game, and the website has the exact same problem.

It also would have helped if there was a way to track your Pokemon, but it doesn't tell you who each one belongs to..  I fail to see the purpose of this website, beyond looking rather pretty.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on September 27, 2007, 04:20:31 am
What you talking about of course you could see what people want for there pokemon on the GTS in the game.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on September 27, 2007, 11:15:19 am
yeah how else could you trade if they didn't show that?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on September 27, 2007, 01:47:27 pm
If you guys are having a hard time getting a certain Pokémon, PM me with your friend code and add mine (it's on the stickied post), I'll trade you anything you want for some very common Pokémon that you can catch anywhere.

I basically play the real deal with my Pokémon Diamond card and then play the game with cheats just for fun on my R4DS card. So I can get you anything you want for "free", just contact me by PM and we can discuss what you want o msn or google talk (the messaging programs I use).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on September 28, 2007, 10:28:25 am
The same applies with me and Gec I think.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on September 28, 2007, 10:32:49 am
well, i would love the have the evolution of gligar and a magmar. but my dad (grrr) won't give me the code to acces our wireless internet. so i'll have to find that out myself.... :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on September 29, 2007, 08:34:22 pm
I smell h4x :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on September 30, 2007, 10:18:59 am
Uh, yeah.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on October 13, 2007, 03:34:10 pm
I'm ashamed at myself for how little time I've put into this. Having put atleast 100 hours into the other ones I haven't touched it since beating the Elite 4. Part of the problem is deciding what Fire pokemon to level up to 100, I really want a fast sweeper but I can't choose between Charizard and Arcanine, the former would be immune to earthquake with is a big concern with the rest of my team, but I have never used an Arcanine before and he's certainly not as common. Charizard would probably be the best bet, Arcanine has better attack stats than sp attack and it would be stupid to waste them
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 13, 2007, 07:47:51 pm
No point worry about both SpA and normal At just pick one. if it has good SpA pout all training in SpA and make sure it only knows Sp moves  no point trying to split the difference when making a sweeper concentrat on what type of attacks and make it as fast as you can.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on October 14, 2007, 11:40:21 am
For me, this game is officially shelfed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on October 14, 2007, 12:28:09 pm
So has anyone been interested in the new Wii Ware game, Pokemon Farm? (ranch?)
http://uk.wii.ign.com/objects/142/14209901.html

The graphics are pretty cute, and if it serves as a storage device, I will be extremely happy.  One of my main problems with D/P was the lack of storage space in the boxes, there just wasn't enough room to keep a decent amount of them.  At least for someone like me that has to collect every single variation of each one of them.  Being able to store them on the Wii there would be awesome

And being able to invite your friends to see them all would be a nice little bonus too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on October 14, 2007, 02:20:24 pm
I hope they work on the graphics there. It seems lacking in the post-processing department.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on October 14, 2007, 04:50:51 pm
The graphics have to be low because the Wii HDD has its limits :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on October 15, 2007, 04:45:52 pm
Are you kidding? Mario Galaxy looks better than that by leaps and bounds.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 15, 2007, 08:47:31 pm
yes but Mario galaxy isn't Downloaded program.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on October 16, 2007, 05:11:44 am
yep, that game we're talking about is downloaded to the Wii's HDD whose capabilities are not that good, so the models need to have a  low polygon count, Mario Galaxy comes on a DVD, it's a totally different thing.

Btw, I got all the way to the Battle Tower on Diamond, any tips on what I have to do next for that couple to let me pass? they always say I need to practice, etc.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 16, 2007, 05:36:34 am
Practice? if you made it to battle tower should mean you can compete.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on October 16, 2007, 03:22:12 pm
Yeah, I know, but what do I have to do at the battle tower so that they let me use swim on that lake to the right? they're blocking me right now :S
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on October 19, 2007, 03:59:50 am
To get past those blocking people.
1a. See all 150 Sinnoh Pokémon.
1b. Dialga/Palkia, depending on which one you couldn't catch, is shown to you by some old lady in a house at Celestic town. (Pretty sure on that.)

2. Go to the Professor Rowan dude or whatever his name is. Some stuff happens, yadda yadda, the blockers are gone.

Hope that helps. .. More importantly, hope ya check this post..

Now, for my portion of the post. Brag time!
I got 3 new shinies! a Geodude (Golem now), a Ponyta (the only radar shiny speck one! Gonna change it at 51), and a Zubat (Already a Crobat)! That's not counting my old Carvanha (Sharpedo.)! FOUR! WOOT!

Ok, the shiny speck on the pokéradar is like, four big specks that shimmer.. wait, have I said this?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on October 19, 2007, 07:12:28 am
Thanks for the help, I'll try it out tonight.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 19, 2007, 07:38:59 am
my best chain is about 30 ina row didnt find in a shinies though although i do have a shiny from ruby i transfered across its only a spinda though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on October 19, 2007, 09:00:35 am
Never, in the history of me playing pokemon, have I ever encountered a shiny myself.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on October 19, 2007, 10:35:33 am
I've encountered a shiny Drowzee and got a shiny Togepi out of the egg in Pokemon Silver.
And I captured a shiny Tentacool in Ruby.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Amazingchi on October 21, 2007, 02:08:55 am
Never, in the history of me playing pokemon, have I ever encountered a shiny myself.

Apart of the set Shiny Gyrados... neither have i...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on October 21, 2007, 03:02:42 am
Oh yes, the shiny gyrados.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on October 23, 2007, 02:15:05 pm
I am really getting into breeding at the moment, but have no idea how the PokéRadar works.
I know where you can catch ditto, but just can't!

Could someone tell me how to get one or trade me one?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on October 24, 2007, 03:49:10 am
Never, in the history of me playing pokemon, have I ever encountered a shiny myself.
Me neither, ad that's with at least 300 hours across Gold, Ruby and Diamond. I have seen the Pokerus twice though and that's supposedly much rarer (although on the second time I was told I had it at the pokecenter but it didn't show up on my pokemon
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on October 24, 2007, 08:12:36 am
Sorry lad, Pokerus is a lot more common than shinies. I've had that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: PikMini on October 24, 2007, 10:05:26 am
I got one  :P  Although i havent played it in a while..

So this pokemon ranch can be downloaded free  ???or do you have to have wii points  :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on October 26, 2007, 07:18:28 am
Ihave had pokerus on both ruby and dia it's pretty common really and once you got it you can store it in a pc box.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on October 26, 2007, 10:46:45 am
Weird. I've found three wild, non-pokéradar shinies, but I've never had Pokérus.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on November 03, 2007, 01:34:30 am
I have a friend who restarted his game thousands upon thousands of times to get a shiny starter.

Then did it again because the shiny was male and he wanted a female.

This took him an entire weekend for a rather pointless status symbol.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on November 03, 2007, 05:55:27 am
You heard of the people who save before Dialga/Palkia and fight them thousands of times for a shiny?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on November 03, 2007, 07:55:30 pm
Sounds like it was lucky it only took a weekend.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on November 04, 2007, 02:10:35 am
hehe, i was lucky to find a feebas in 5 minutes of fishing.... ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on November 04, 2007, 02:46:32 am
hehe, i was lucky to find a feebas in 5 minutes of fishing.... ;D

Wow. Yesterday I tried that and gave up in 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on November 04, 2007, 06:14:58 pm
I had some on a previous play of ruby never bothered this time around and I dont have the feebas from my previous game I can always trade for them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on November 10, 2007, 04:59:56 am
If I remember rightly, shinies are significantly more common than pokerus. Shinies are roughly 1/3000 chance of encountering them, whereas pokerus is more like 1/65535.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on November 10, 2007, 06:07:21 am
I thought it was 1/8000, or 1/80000, while Pokerus could be find simply by fighting enough wild pokemon on a certain route.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on November 10, 2007, 05:48:53 pm
Plus the fact that Pokerus is as contagious as all get out. Especially in this age of online trading the thing can spread like wild fire.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 21, 2007, 04:24:27 am
Well, I finally got this game.

Love it already. It's near-orgasmic nostaliga mixed with the freshness of the new; like some kind of perverse Toothpaste made in heaven.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on December 21, 2007, 09:43:41 am
Doesn't Bidoof annoy you?

Joking aside, I agree. Well not on the I just got it bit, but the bit about loving it. This this the first game, apart from maybe WoW, that's had me playing for over 230 hours.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 22, 2007, 01:08:49 am
Doesn't Bidoof annoy you?

...And Starly and Buziel, and other crap pokemon you encounter.

Well, following some trades and hard work, my team is now:
 Leafeon
 Dratini
 Flaafy
 Monferno

I had a bash at catching a Munchlax but, of course, I didn't. I managed to catch a Burmy though, which I remember being told was rare. Other good catches include a Cleffa and Shellos.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 23, 2007, 02:47:07 pm
GAH, catching legendaries is so frustrating on this game... I got Heatran to close to 1HP, put him asleep, threw a duskball, everytime it failed. Until he tan out of moves and killed himself.


This has happened 5 times now, and I still haven't got him.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on December 23, 2007, 05:19:54 pm
I haven't tried getting Heatran yet. He looks too much like a potato.

I've been recently making an all bird team for PBR. It's pretty good so far, I've got failrly good type advantage. My only problem is Electric types.

I've got:
Skarmory
Pelipper
Altaria
Togekiss
Honchkrow
Xatu
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 23, 2007, 06:13:42 pm
Just buy more even more dusk balls. Also while at it try paralyzing heatran like 1st shot in. When Paralyzed he will run out of PP slower because half the time he paralysis will stop him from attacking, plus give you a higher catch rate, plus make him uber slow so you can take your time doing things like lowering his accuracy and his attack stats so he does less damage to you. Then get is health right down and go for the catch.

Much better than trying to sleep him.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on December 24, 2007, 04:39:41 am
Sleep lowers the catch rate (Better than para) and imobilizes completly. But it wears off in 2-4 turns. Paralysis is permanent.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 24, 2007, 05:51:44 am
Sleep heightens your catch rate, you mean? Else it would be way worse.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on December 24, 2007, 10:36:40 pm
Catch rate; higher=worse. Check Seribii.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 25, 2007, 06:15:22 am
Luckily I have like 30 heart scales left (I love underground.), so I'll make one of my pokemanz learn Thunder Wave, can replace it afterwards.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 25, 2007, 12:26:57 pm
Replace... Thunder Wave? What kind of bizarre parallel universe do you live in? Thunder Wave is great! Slash opponent's speed and half the time they don't get to act at all - with 100% accuracy and 20PP?

It's delicious stuff. The only downside is that it isn't combinable with Toxic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on December 25, 2007, 05:01:44 pm
I find Para-ing a poke I want to catch better than sleeping as it lasts the entire battle as long as you come in with like 30 + poke balls (by this point in the game money should be nothing to you) heck you can even bring a 1 or 2 like lvl 10s to chip health away if you mess with accuracy of the poke you want to get. You can get it really low easy Then launch dusk balls to hearts content.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 26, 2007, 06:28:01 am
I had a great time going up Mt. Coronet to confront Team Galactic/Dialga. It was a tough fight in the double battle (my rival was stupid and my pokemon were pretty much all dead), but I pulled through, thansk to a lucky Critical Hit Rock Tomb from my Rampardos finishing a Golbat.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 26, 2007, 08:34:29 am
I just trained loads of pokemon to level 50 then sold them for master balls, then used them to catch the legendaries. :D
Anyone know how to sell pokemon for master balls?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 26, 2007, 08:43:05 am
I just trained loads of pokemon to level 50 then sold them for master balls, then used them to catch the legendaries. :D
Anyone know how to sell pokemon for master balls?
On the GTS, people will exchange a crap pokemon (EG Starly) holding a Masterball for a decently powerful Pokemon.

I'm heading for the League. Gonna do some heavy-duty training before I even set off though.

Also, how easy was the 8th gym? it was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 27, 2007, 08:36:29 am
This is what you need for the league:

Pokemon lv 50~ with Crunch (Psychic)
Pokemon lv 50~ with Strong water move, Hydro cannon, surf etc, preferably high pp moves or two low pp moves (Against ground(/water) and fire)
Pokemon lv 50~ with a strong flying move like Drill Peck
Pokemon lv 50~ (Preferably Flying type or with Levitate) with Blizzard or Ice Beam against that goddamned Garchomp, who apperantly only knows one friggin move.
Pokemon lv 50~ with a fire move (Blasted Bronzong screwed my Luxray over on first attemp)


I did the league with:
Luxray Lv 52 (Had Crunch, Fire Fang) (Egg pokemon btw)
Empoleon lv 50 (Surf, Drill Peck, Blizzard)
Rapidash lv 48 (Fire Blast)



BTW: I hate Vespiquen.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 27, 2007, 10:52:10 am
Vespiquen is great fun. Toxic and Recover makes for sweetstuffs, combined with all that defense. Sahme its types have so many weaknesses, but, on the other hand, it's a bug that doesn't suck. It's no Scyther, but it beats out 90% of bugs in just about everything.

If you want to kill it, just bring a rock-type attack like Rock Slide or Ancient Power, or a Cranidos with Double Headbutt. Or a fire-type attack, but before beating the E4, the only fire-type is Rapidash

Or just fight it the way you normally would, it's no Milotic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on December 27, 2007, 01:22:39 pm
Actually, I have one myself with Defense Order, Heal Order, Toxic and Attack Order. I find it great. Toxic; Defense Order, until I have low hp, heal order, Defense order, repeat. And when my defense is so high that they barely hit, I recharge with Heal order, then Attack Order as much as I want.


I wonder if Heal order works on other pokemon, like in double battles.



Woot, got a master ball, cloned it a few times, got all the legendaries now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on December 28, 2007, 06:44:08 am
Yeah, mine switched out Defend Order for Power Gem, to cover its weaknesses a little. Flying and fire types killed it a little too easily, in my opinion... and to be honest, I just liked the novelty of a special rock-type attack.

I don't use it much these days, but it does have a lot of ribbons. Even the ridiculously expensive one.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on December 30, 2007, 11:41:49 am
In my endless hunt to catch myself a Munchlax, I have managed to snag myself Aipom and Heracross. An even trade.

Dammit! There weren't enough letters to dub Aipom 'Cokefiend McSpunky'.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 04, 2008, 02:34:35 am
I became pretty good in cloning, and now I just mass-clone my Dialga, Cresscelia, Heatran and Giratina and trade em for lv 75-100 pokemon.

Good pokemon + more chance for master balls = Happy Yannick.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 04, 2008, 03:27:26 am
Cheater.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Glacies on January 04, 2008, 03:38:35 am
I wasn't aware you could clone in D/P. how does one go about that?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 04, 2008, 09:29:56 am
Action Replay! Action Replay! Action Replay! ;D

Well Yannick's technique is more of a glitch.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 04, 2008, 02:38:53 pm
I beat the Pokemon League. It was the closest end ever.

I beat most of Cynthia's Pokemon easily, and my Dragonite virtually destroyed Garchomp before dying; but in the end I was left with my Ampharos fighting Garchomp and after that Milotic. I managed to beat Garchomp basically thorugh luck, as he was paralysed from attacking me and I had to resort to 'Signal Beam'....eventually confusing him and cauing him to kill himself.

Then, My Ampharos took an Ice beam down to 7HP and killed Milotic with Thunderpunch. It was really, really close.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 05, 2008, 02:47:10 am
That's why you bring revives.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 05, 2008, 03:23:22 am
I brought many, but, as I saw it: Every turn I used a Revive, the active Pokemon would be KO'ed. Hence, no use.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 05, 2008, 04:02:10 am
revive a poke with a resistance to the pokemon you are up against you should last a tiny but longer possibly bringing back two pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 05, 2008, 04:19:47 am
My only 'super-effective' was Dragonite....who would have a suoer-effective moves against him.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 05, 2008, 04:58:35 am
you miss understand you putting a pokemon out there for defensive reasons it matters not if you are super effect against the opponent only that they are not very effective against you. Which if you were up against a dragon type means a a steel type preferably with a high sp def. Although any poke with a high sp def and possibly high HP probably have been good enough to last if you tried.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 05, 2008, 05:01:59 am
My only option would probably have been Blissey, who might have been killed by Brick Break.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 05, 2008, 05:10:25 am
Actually would have been a good choice. High HP sure brick break is a risk but at least it had a chance of surviving compared to everyone else. Then when your dragon is back pray its got a speed advantage and drop the other like a hot potato.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 05, 2008, 05:20:37 am
Cheater.
I am just using a glitch to my advantage. It's basically like using missingo, and everybody loves missingo, right?

And cloning in D/P is basically like cloning in R/B/Y, but using the GTS.

Deposit pokemon, choose a high-level pokemon, preferably non-legendary, as almost all legends are hacked on GTS and can easily be acquired..
The little clock will start spinning
Wait for the strip of grey to hit the top 8 times.
On eight time, quickly turn off DS
Log in
You'll get a: "Save file corrupted, using previous save"
This brings your pokemon back in your DS, and if everything went right, it should also be on ze interwebs.
Take pokemon back
TADA, two pokemanz.



BTW: Garchomp is WAY TO FAST.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 05, 2008, 05:41:02 am
Actually would have been a good choice. High HP sure brick break is a risk but at least it had a chance of surviving compared to everyone else. Then when your dragon is back pray its got a speed advantage and drop the other like a hot potato.

Pokedex: Garchomp can fly as fast as a Jetplane. ;)

Either way, I won anyway!

I got my National Dex this morning, all that was missing were the three lake Pokemon (I caught all but Mespirit), Riolu (I went and picked up the egg this time) and, bizarrley, Wormadam.

In celebration, I caught Swellow and Snubbul.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 05, 2008, 09:17:11 am
Blissey would have been killed by any of Garchomp's moves, they're all physical. Blissey has about ten base defense points. No chance, not at at half Hit Points.

The real question is, why did you go to the Elite Four without Ice Beam?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 05, 2008, 09:22:34 am
I have no idea. I didn't really think about it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 05, 2008, 11:47:24 am
Or atleast Blizzard.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 11, 2008, 01:36:43 pm
http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir_english/?p=41

So apparantly something is happening in the game tomorrow, I really can't wait to find out, I've been looking for a reason to come back to playing the game.  Maybe they will finally offer up those darned promo Pokemon.  Or at least some with unique moves, anything to give me some reason to play more.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 11, 2008, 01:42:06 pm
Exciting!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 01:58:24 pm
Curious....Very curious.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 11, 2008, 02:32:08 pm
It better not suck. Is it possible to add new game elements to the game? Could it possibly be an update?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 02:37:10 pm
I'm not sure how that would work. Software download would be impossible...an activated event?

I personally believe it is access to a Legendary Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 11, 2008, 03:29:15 pm
Updates are not possible because the cartridges are read-only.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 03:48:21 pm
Spoilerzorz, Perhaps:

According to Serebii, it is simply a different snow effect in Snowpoint City. Yawn.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 11, 2008, 03:57:34 pm
What is this.. zorz nonsense?

Anyway, i've had that weather effect in Snowpoint before, so that's not it. Serebii has been wrong several times before, usually with hilarious consequences as his ego promptly explodes.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 11, 2008, 04:01:26 pm
It mentions it can happen otherwise, but thats probably what it is.

Also, note the qualifier 'Apparently'.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on January 11, 2008, 04:18:50 pm
Yup, it's there now.  A simple change in the whether effect in Snowpoint City, not even worth turning your DS on to see.

I really don't understand the point of these download features in the game if they're not even going to be used.  I hear that Japan has been able to download a few special Pokemon, but even then, only when you're in specific areas?  I am very disappointed in Nintendo for this, one of my reasons for picking up D/P was the belief that the online features would make things like this possible.  Even if they didn't give out the promo Pokemon, just a few of the regular guys with special moves every week would have given me some incentive to continue playing the game.

As it is, I'm fed up of this same old tired crap and lackluster features.  Someone tell me when they do something inventive with Pokemon, or at least semi decent.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 11, 2008, 04:56:03 pm
Wait, it's not even the 12th yet. How do we know this for sure?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2008, 09:46:05 pm
It's the 12th where I live I have to say I was underwhelmed I can't say i spent enough time at snowpoint to even really notice how it was different.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2008, 06:54:46 pm
I bought a DS lite a couple of days ago and picked up Diamond with it.

Soon my team of pokeymans will be prepared to destroy all comers.

And by soon I mean in about a year.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 12, 2008, 07:50:04 pm
(http://pics.fort90.com/journal/pokemans.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 12, 2008, 09:36:18 pm
Guess who just discovered 4chan.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 13, 2008, 05:59:31 am
nah, I'd seen it before somewhere else and just searched on google for pokemans because of what Krakow Sam said xD
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 14, 2008, 01:35:18 pm
= Sometimes Nintendo puts up rare pokemon on GTS
UNLIMITED OF EM :o
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 19, 2008, 01:33:09 pm
I'm having a bit of trouble with the Super Contests.

Having taken Munchlax (My favourite Pokemon of all time, quite possibly) a bit beyond Normal rank, aswell as Yuri, my Alakazam, I've started to get a little stuck.

Initially, the dress-up themes were always something like "The Natural", which was obvious (Trees, Feathers..) or "The Colourful" (Easy enough).

But now I keep getting themes like "The Shapely" (Munchlax is shapely enough, in my opinion) or "The Created", and I simply have no idea what they mean. Could anyone find me a link to some form of guide to what I should put on my Pokemon to make it look 'shapely', of all things? Please no advice on the lines of "Just make up the points in the other sections" or "Just forget about it and Poffin it up a notch."
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 19, 2008, 02:27:04 pm
Well, "The Created" is obviously artificial things, as opposed to "The Natural." As for "The Shapely" I have no bloody idea. I just slapped the highest-ranked prizes and most expensive things on.

Having adopted Veekun as my font of all Pokemon-related knowledge, I'm not really sure where to find detailed information about the contests.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on January 19, 2008, 02:39:00 pm
To be honest, I never even paid attention to the dress-up theme. It was ALWAYS "The Created", ive never seen anything else occur. So I just bling it up with whatever the hell I have on hand that looks nice enough. Worked fine for me, got my Master Rank in Beauty sorted.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 19, 2008, 05:09:03 pm
I could put up some rare pokemon on GTS, if you know what I mean ;)

Who wants Surfing Pikachus? :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 19, 2008, 05:21:04 pm
Nobody, ever wants a surfing Pikachu.

Unless you're playing Pokemon Snap, of course. Then they're worth big points.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 19, 2008, 08:09:46 pm
But the singing Jigglypuffs on stage is worth more. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 20, 2008, 08:09:31 am
DarkDragon, you'd be better of saying: "Who wants Wonder Guard Spiritombs."
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 20, 2008, 08:21:49 am
Yeah, I could arrange that too (but surf is a good move on a pikachu accordingly to serebii).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 20, 2008, 08:49:58 am
Yeah, I could arrange that too (but surf is a good move on a pikachu accordingly to serebii).

...To counter Rock abd ground, I imagine. However, this doesn't the change the fact that Pikachu sucks.

Now, Ampharos is where it's at.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 20, 2008, 09:10:54 am
I'm more of a Jolteon man myself, though mostly I get by with Porygon-Z powered Thunderbolt.

EDIT: HOSNAP, I caught me my first shiny while EV training my Eevee. It's awesome, it's shining, it's... Bidoof.

Can't win 'em all, I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 21, 2008, 07:39:12 am
Ouch.

I share you pain, I have a shiny Kricketot. (Which I traded to my friends brother, who named it 'Jimminy Kricketot'. Amazing.)

What pissed me off more is that the very next day a friend of mine snagged himself a shiny Beldum. Smug bastard.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 21, 2008, 09:30:10 am
Speaking of shinies I found the AR code necessary to make all pokemon that appear to become shinies. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 21, 2008, 09:36:28 am
Thank God I have R4DS, even if I don't use the AR code for shinies that comes with the R4, I can always capture them normal and make them shiny with pokesav.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 21, 2008, 10:50:05 am
Be cool, use PokeRadar. It's really easy once you get the hang of it.
*Shows collection of legally gotten shinies, 9 of them :-o*
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 21, 2008, 11:36:53 am
Yeah, you cheats. >:(

Settle for crappy Shinies.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 21, 2008, 11:39:34 am
Hey, Mister Sparkle isn-

Yeah, fair enough. Well, at least he can be an impressive HM Slave. By the by, Yannick, how do you get the hang of it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 21, 2008, 11:59:51 am
Follow the rules, remember your repel and have good luck?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 21, 2008, 02:08:09 pm
lol, I don't cheat, I only use pokesav to give people who want "engineered" pokemon (hi Yannick :P).

I never got a shiny in Diamond/Pearl, I was lucky enough to get my Cyndaquil and Togepi shiny in Silver, as well as finding a wild shiny Ditto and a shiny Drowzee. In Ruby I found a wild shiny tentacool and that was the last I've seen of wild shinies.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 22, 2008, 05:42:31 am
Bah, I encountered a shiny krabby in Gold back in the day. Unfortunately events conspired for me not to catch it because a) I thought it was a glitch, rather than a deliberate thing and b) I had no pokeballs.

That purple Krabby will always be the one that got away  :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 22, 2008, 08:43:33 am
I never got one in Silver, ever. Or Blue, come to think of it. I thought they were a new thing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 22, 2008, 08:58:00 am
Basic pokeradar rules:
- Repel always one
- Don't use bicycle.
- The shortest way to get to a path must be above 4, and under 8 steps.
- Always choose the same patch colours. (I know someone who kept resetting his pokeradar for a shiny patch, and it then keeps coming back. Which is totally sweet)
- Put a pokemon with Volt Absorb as leader when catching electrics
- Put a pokemon with Storm Drain as leader when catching waters
- Try to go after swarms as much as possible.

Cleanse tags help.

Good luck :-)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 22, 2008, 08:59:25 am
They weren't in R/B/Y, just fron G/S onwards.

Anyway, I'm finally down to working on the last two pokemon for my team. Of course, knowing me, I'll want to go back and change one - or two, or three - as soon as I actually finish.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 22, 2008, 09:14:11 am
I find EV training my pokemon great. I love glancing at that 310 att stat and 314 speed stat of my Infernape right before I blow people apart.


I seriously need to spend practicing my moveset choosing though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 22, 2008, 11:32:45 am
Yeah, I've really gotten into EV training. Pokemon are vastly more powerful everytime; my Alakazam's Special Attack is through the roof, My Scizor is actually pretty speedy with a hot Attack to match. I'm doing my Snorlax and Elekid right now.

A question regarding that, one of the Pokemon I intend to train and use is a Lapras; but it's stats are spread out almost equally. Whilst with other Pokemon it's always been clear that I should concerntrate on thier 'dominant' stats; how should I do this? An even spread, or biased? 
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 22, 2008, 12:16:28 pm
All depends on Lapras's move pool and/or usage then.
If Lapras has a lot of decent special moves, Sp.Att and Speed, but if you prefer using Lapras as a wall, either focus on Def and HP, Sp.Def and HP or Sp.Def and Def. I prefer (Sp)def + HP. You just check which opponents Lapras is going to have to block (Mostly Electivire), in this case Electric pokemon, most trainers have an Attack-based electrivire using thunder punch (They only focus on one own type move for STAB), thus you should EV train Def and HP.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 22, 2008, 04:25:08 pm
I got a shiny Spinda which I got the hard way back on Ruby I have transfered it to Diamond though. I have tried chaining witht he radar best I got is like 30 odd in a row before the chain was broken no shineys showed up. It was a good way to spend a train ride if you can get a chain going you can spend an hour working on it. Problem is with on the train is if the chain breaks half way through a good run you don't have enough time to start another.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 23, 2008, 05:45:04 am
I usually take my time and try getting a 40; since it stops getting higher odds afterwards. When hit the 40 reach (And having odds of 1/200) I usually keep resetting the radar.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 23, 2008, 10:38:32 am
You mean the improved odds of finding a shiny depend only on your max chain for that species, and not that you're currently in a long chain?

I really have trouble with the Pokedar. Right now I'm looking for a Loudred - any Loudred - up in Mount Coronet. Any advice on getting pokedar unique pokemon to show up?

EDIT: Got one. Woo!

EDIT: Actually, I think I get this. Rarer 'mon do appear in brighter grass. Getting fifty steps and re-using pokedar doesn't end your chain, and shiny odds peak at a chain of 40. I've got a long bus ride due tomorrow, so I might have a crack at nabbing a shiny or two.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on January 23, 2008, 07:18:01 pm
I generally take my time with it often when in doubt reset my radar and often you you been going long enough you don't have to walk far as the battery is charged. Still you sometimes get the chain breaking for no good reason at all. Like I said my best Chain is about 30 in a row. Some grasses seem easier than others I find chaining outside the iron works easy also where the Doduo appear is easy as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 26, 2008, 09:21:09 am
I find white flashing grasses easiest, as they suddenly peek, and you will see atleast 3 white patches and 1 less flashy patch.


Woot, shiny ditto.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 26, 2008, 09:49:00 am
Do shiny dittos because shinies of what they mimic?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 26, 2008, 10:52:04 am
Don't know... I should test that out.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 27, 2008, 11:57:06 am
(http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8586/allrealmh0.png)

Real life maps \o/
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 27, 2008, 01:01:02 pm
So, on the topic of my shiny Beldum friend.....


He just hatched a SHINY MUNCHLAX. This is my favourite Pokemon, ever. And he's giving me it for free!

Soon, I'll replace my regular battling Snorlax with one that is shiny. I was so annoyed that it is not overly different.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on January 27, 2008, 01:13:25 pm
Back in Gold/Silver/Crystal, if you bred a shiny ditto with another pokemon, the chances of the poke comming out of the egg being shiny were of 1/64, any idea if that's also true for D/P?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 27, 2008, 01:23:21 pm
Nay. It stopped being true with R/S/E.

Mister C, you have the luckiest friend on Earth. Steal his seven-leaf clover.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on January 28, 2008, 05:28:08 am
Back in Gold/Silver/Crystal, if you bred a shiny ditto with another pokemon, the chances of the poke comming out of the egg being shiny were of 1/64, any idea if that's also true for D/P?

i heard it was 1 out of 6... not sure though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 28, 2008, 07:53:43 am
Nay. It stopped being true with R/S/E.

Mister C, you have the luckiest friend on Earth. Steal his seven-leaf clover.

Yup. More so considering it takes forever to breed and hatch Munchlax, and he was only doing it so he'd have a bunch of Munhclax to trade away. He, apparently, has many.

But seriously, two awesome shinies in a few weeks?  No chance.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 28, 2008, 10:46:06 am
I have a shiny manaphy :-D It only took me a few hundred resets!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 28, 2008, 11:37:20 am
I have a shiny manaphy :-D It only took me a few hundred resets!
Was that worth it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 28, 2008, 12:00:00 pm
Not really. But hey, I was on a 3 hour trip, it was that or screwing around trying to kill people.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 29, 2008, 02:24:46 pm
So, Veekun apears to have died. Which is annoying, since it was easily the best pokedex site around. Now I'm down to Bulbapedia.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 30, 2008, 07:30:15 am
I saved my game right before my charmander hatches, so I'm working on getting my first legit shiny.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 30, 2008, 08:26:31 am
I think (and I may be wrong) that every aspect of an egg's eventual Pokemon is decided when it is layed. The nature and moves are, for one thing.


Shininess may be different.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 30, 2008, 08:30:00 am
I don't know, never tried it out.

AW, before continuing this; try hatching a few times and look at possible nature/stats differences.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on January 30, 2008, 10:02:34 am
Natures will be the same. I've been in this posistion before when I was tring to breed a modest Abra with Synchronise. I saved about 10 steps before the hatch and saved and turned off/on. The same nature/ability every time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 30, 2008, 10:33:28 am
Yes, but perhaps IV's change, slightly altering the base stats.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 30, 2008, 10:34:24 am
So how'd you get the shiny manaphy Yannick?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 30, 2008, 12:02:01 pm
Way too much time on my hands. I have to admit I used AR to insta-hatch, no way in hell I'm walking 20.000~ steps.

Save before getting egg, get egg, instahatch, repeat.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on January 30, 2008, 12:31:16 pm
Cheater!

>.<
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on January 30, 2008, 12:54:29 pm
So, Veekun apears to have died. Which is annoying, since it was easily the best pokedex site around. Now I'm down to Bulbapedia.

Ah, nevermind, it's back. Convenience ahoy!

EDIT: Or maybe it isn't. Hand me some Pokefood, I'm going to see if I can't coax it out of the Schrodinger box.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on January 31, 2008, 07:54:43 am
Cheater!

>.<
Who cares :-o
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on January 31, 2008, 04:41:13 pm
Yeah, high five Yan! You and I know how to get instant gratification. ;D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 01, 2008, 09:57:15 am
I have no idea what you just said because I'm a Dutch retard so I'll just say: Thanks!


Just found this on ze interwebs.
My pokemon brings all the boys to the yard
And they're like you wanna trade cards?
I'm like damn right i wanna trade cards!
I could beat you 'cause i got Charizard!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 03, 2008, 08:10:57 am
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/102/johtosofarkk6.png

I am da mapper ;<
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 03, 2008, 08:44:20 am
Ooh. Pokemon Silver/Gold I see. How d'you do that?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 03, 2008, 10:40:23 am
RPG Maker XP :X
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 03, 2008, 10:50:43 am
Well, as of 11pm last night someone is now the proud ownder of a Shiny Munchlax.


We had a Pokemon Party, it was fantastic. Battles, Contests and Battle Tower-fests galore, and about a bazillion trades. I also caught a whole bunch of flags, and I now have a device that scans for treasure in my PC. Pretty swish.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 03, 2008, 02:05:10 pm
Not that it probably makes much difference, but does it have a good nature? Adamant, Careful, Sassy and Brave work well on Snorlax, though I suppose shiny-ness makes up for any negative nature.

Incidently, if you've got Pokemon Battle Revolution Pokemon.com (http://www.pokemon.com/) will give you a free Magmortar and Electvire, which is handy if you don't have FR/LG. They've also revealed Darkrai, but there's still no way to actually obtain it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 04, 2008, 01:26:57 am
It's Impish. Which apparently lowers Special Attack and Increases defence. That's not amazing but it's not bad, because my OTHER Snorlax generally suffers from his crappy defence, being a Special Tank.

Also, who knew that your AI allies in the Battle Tower could have legendary Pokemon? I was fighting beside Latios for a session yesterday.

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 04, 2008, 08:32:11 am
Yeah, every pokemon can pop up, as long as it is not banned. I was fighting against a regirock awhile ago.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on February 04, 2008, 07:40:51 pm
I have no idea what you just said because I'm a Dutch retard so I'll just say: Thanks!

I'm talking about the Action Replay. I have one too. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 04, 2008, 08:35:14 pm
I have no idea what you just said because I'm a Dutch retard so I'll just say: Thanks!

I'm talking about the Action Replay. I have one too. :P

Don't forget me :D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 05, 2008, 06:12:58 am
You have fake AR, R4DS-er :-p

Guess who just got an EV-maxed IV-breeded, Shiny Electivire :-D
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 05, 2008, 07:21:24 am
Hax.

I was going to gloat about how dice karma kicked in and gave me a shiny roselia after spending all day hunting in vain for a shiny cubone, but it doesn't seem like much now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Xenomorph on February 05, 2008, 07:25:56 am
R4, **** YEAH!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 05, 2008, 08:30:14 am
I lost my AR. :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 05, 2008, 10:12:23 am
So that's why you act all angry when people mention they use AR simply to speed up the hatching progress :-p

Anyway, Electivire's IV's.

Hp: 26
Attack: 30
Defense: 15
Sp.Atk: 24
Sp.Def: 21
Speed: 31

EV's:
HP:4
Attack: 252
Speed: 252

Adamant nature.
Took forever :D, the shinyness was a mere bonus, electivire just look darker with blue tailtips.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 05, 2008, 10:50:46 am
Nah - It's because you didn't mention it right away.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 05, 2008, 02:42:53 pm
holy... Someone gave ma an EV'd garchomp, EV'd Weavile and EV'd rampardos for a semilegit shiny arceus.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 05, 2008, 02:44:18 pm
Thanks to Yannick I'll finally get my EV'd shiny Charizard.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 05, 2008, 02:51:17 pm
Yeah, about that... My AR is total loss.. Gotta delete every bit of code in it, and reboot. So it might take another day.

EDIT: Deleted, now re-entering every bit of code....
EDIT2: Fixed! I hope!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 06, 2008, 07:36:15 am
Yeah, about that... My AR is total loss.. Gotta delete every bit of code in it, and reboot. So it might take another day.

EDIT: Deleted, now re-entering every bit of code....
EDIT2: Fixed! I hope!

And you were making fun of my R4 :P
It never gave me problems and it emulates the AR perfectly :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 06, 2008, 11:21:38 am
Arghh...I've given up on my dream of a shiny Flygon. It is impossible to see the Radar sparkles in a bloody sandstorm!

Also, how are you supposed to find shinies of Safari Game or Surf Pokemon? Do you seriously have to rely on insanley good luck or cheating?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 06, 2008, 11:42:27 am
I'd say that the best solution for finding a safari/surf pokemon is not looking for one in the first place.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 06, 2008, 11:52:51 am
Yep. That, or breed the hell out of them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 06, 2008, 12:30:50 pm
Alright, I need suggestions for EV training a charmander. I'm not great with picking stats to train, I realized that after Speed training a Spiritomb. :/

I was hinking Attack and Sp. Attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 06, 2008, 12:38:00 pm
Are you able to get rare candies? If so, bring charmander to level 20, post his stats, then simply turn off DS to get the rare candies back.

EDIT: alternatively, you can use daycare.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 06, 2008, 12:44:42 pm
I thought the daycare raised his EVs a little?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Luminar on February 06, 2008, 12:46:51 pm
holy... Someone gave ma an EV'd garchomp, EV'd Weavile and EV'd rampardos for a semilegit shiny arceus.

There are no legit Arceus anywhere, currently.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 06, 2008, 12:47:38 pm
I said it was semilegit didn't I :-p


Daycare is like rare candies. It does not take EV's in account, nor does it raise them.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 06, 2008, 12:51:00 pm
I have a semilegit arceus too!

For definition Luminar - That means cheating the event item instead of directly cheating the pokemon.

And why do I post it at level 20? ???
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 06, 2008, 12:55:59 pm
So I can calculate its IV's and give some good moveset/EV spread advice :-)

EDIt: Shiny Entei, Corsola and porygon are mine!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 06, 2008, 09:22:36 pm
I might have to get back into this start breeding and EV training my team of 6. I only finished like 2 of them ( think i still have to put some TMs on them though). It's a pain trying to hatch with good IVs.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 07, 2008, 05:09:43 am
Word.


I have one soopah ditto, which has all IV's above 18, and two 31 IV's. IT'S EVERSTONE TIME.

I defeated AlwaysWatching in a DU-DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 07, 2008, 12:00:24 pm
Focusing on one attack stat lets you put the rest of the EV's into speed and make it a hell of a lot faster. Having a mixed moveset to slap down the wrong type of wall if it comes in is pretty pointless when you get outsped and swept by anything reasonably speedy packing Stone Edge. Which a lot of pokemon do.

Charizard has decent attack in both physical and special categories, though, so go with whichever one his nature boosts or doesn't detract from.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 07, 2008, 12:20:36 pm
I defeated AlwaysWatching in a DU-DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!

Very mature. :)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 07, 2008, 05:30:54 pm
Well now that yesterday my PuzzleQuest character managed to forge a series of items which turn her into a super insane over powered character that wins any battle in at least 4 moves. It looks like going back to farming pokemon to build a team. I hope I can remember what the team I was trying to build was.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on February 07, 2008, 08:34:02 pm
Likewise. I erased my game and wanted to replay the game through patiently.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 10, 2008, 07:08:56 pm
With Puzzle quest i already finished the all the quests so it didn't matter that I dicovered a bunch of uber powerful items.

Edit: I started working on team again and am considaring some major over hauls Mostly because the team has far to many special sweepers and maybe try and find something that will better take care of some of the over used types.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 11, 2008, 08:04:59 am
God, I hate some aspects of this game. Trying to catch a Miltank on Diamond is a nightmare. Problem is, I can't trade with anybody because it's a 'secret weapon' of sorts, and my GTS doesn't work (My Wireless internet is apparently 'not compatible')

I've been chaining all day. I've slaughtered truckloads of Chanceys, Mime Juniors, Tauros and other rare Pokemon.....but no bloody Miltank.

I'm dreading I'll accidentally kill it or something.

I suppose this is payback for coming across a Duskull and Shuckle in a row.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 11, 2008, 08:19:30 am
Miltank? Not too bad of a choice, but if you're getting sick of looking try getting either Bronzong or Skarm/Bliss
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 11, 2008, 09:33:30 am
Miltank? Not too bad of a choice, but if you're getting sick of looking try getting either Bronzong or Skarm/Bliss

My team already incorporates a Snorlax, as my Special tank, so I need to fill the gap with something that is defense orientated. I intend to give Miltank Earthquake and Return, as damage options, as well as Stealth Rock and a heal move.

Blissey's terrible defence and inability to fight back puts me off, and Skarmory and Bronzong are a little bit to common for me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 11, 2008, 10:02:23 am
Or you could go for the uncommon Leafeon, which has a 130 base defence stat along with 110 attack base not to mention that awesome 95 speed. A good leafeon would be:

Leafeon@Dry Rock/Leftovers (Either get some HP back, or keep Sunny day longer, which helps)
- Synthesis
- Sunny Day
- Leaf Blade
- Giga Drain/Grasswhistle
152/252 HP / 252 Def / 100/4 Spd
Impish Nature

I know all grass moves, but they all suit a different purpose.
Set up a Sunny Day/Grasswhistle for your first move, and start counting them. When you're in your last sunny day turn, use Grasswhistle to lull the foe asleep, use Sunny day again, attack using leaf blade.

For EV spreads, I'd suggest either putting some EV's in speed to be able to set up grasswhistle before opponent can attack, or go for a heavy armoured leafeon. I wouldn't use Giga Drain, although you're free to use it.




Of course, Miltank is just as good, just saying some less rare options.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 11, 2008, 10:29:44 am
I have a Leafeon. and a few Eevees. If I don't catch a Miltank today or tomorow, I'll go with Leafeon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 11, 2008, 10:33:17 am
Want some defensive Miltank movesets or do you know what you'll do with miltank for 100% already?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 11, 2008, 10:59:45 am
I'm already pretty sure what I'm doing with my Miltank, thanks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 11, 2008, 12:37:22 pm
Try catching a Tauros on Pearl. >:(

Grass Whistle is way too inaccurate to get away with, especially since hypnosis went up to 70% accuracy. Sunny Daying with Leafeon is just asking for something to come in and ream you with boosted flamethrower - or even solarbeam, what with his rubbish special defense. You'd have to run a full Sunny-Day team or at least have something with Flash Fire to catch the fire blast, since even Snorlax doesn't like its opponents getting free 1.5x boosts on their attacks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 11, 2008, 03:34:21 pm
Currently I'm farming for Dittos trying to find them with a variety of personalities or what ever they are to make breeding a bit less random with trying to find a baby with both good IVs and a good personality which seems nightmare-ishly hard.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 12, 2008, 01:31:54 am
Update, I caught my Miltank and for once had a stroke of good luck; the first Miltank I bred has a perfect nature and ability. I've taught it return and I'll start training it once all my other Pokemon are at level 100. I'm keeping it with me, holding a Soothe Bell with a massage every day to make it's Return attack powerful.


Oh, and I finally got into the Ribbon Syndicate.
To quote Pokemon, 'DISAPPOINTMENT.'

Try catching a Tauros on Pearl. >:(

I'm pretty sure it's the same crappy 2% chance.

Speaking of which, out of curiousity, if I bred a Miltank with a Tauros, what species would the baby be?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 12, 2008, 03:09:50 am
Miltank.

Where do you catch a Miltank in D/P?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 12, 2008, 04:18:00 am
Miltank.

Where do you catch a Miltank in D/P?

Use the Pokeradar in the grass north of Solaceon Town. I caught mine beyond the cafe, where the Psyducks were, just shy of the misty area.

Depending on which game you have, Tauros is more common (Diamond) or Miltank is more common (Pearl). If you have the 'wrong' game, get ready for a long catching trip.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 12, 2008, 03:00:08 pm
What are some people recomendations for physical sweepers? I dont want to grab anything too common I'd rather focus on good pokemon that people aren't going to completely suspect and have teams built to destroy. Seeing I was looking at my team and it is very Special sweeper heavy with pretty much half my team capable of performing a special sweeper role even the ones not designed as sweepers could pull it off to a small extent.

I'm thinking something that might be good for a blissy counter as they seem to be common as muck. I generally have something to deal with most other issues and although one pokemon on my team might cause Blissy some trouble in the end a team set to resist sp attacks will give me a hard time.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 12, 2008, 03:49:06 pm
I personally opt for Scizor. People don't expect it, and it's resitant to a huge amount of things, It has Super Effective STAB to Psychic, Rock....It has decent Speed, Attack, and Defence. The big downer is it's 4x Weakness to fire, however, this is it's only weakness.

My other one is an attack-Electavire. With Brick Break, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch and Giga Impact I have awesome type coverage. The major problem with this is the easy avaliability of Earthquakes, which have a nasty effect on poor Electavire. Luring electric attacks to take advantage of Motor Drive seldom works, as people (well, me) have a tendency to see it coming. (How often do you switch Staraptor into Jolteon?)

Whilst these are still OU/BL, I find they're alot less obvious than the usual Garchomp/Salamence.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 12, 2008, 04:53:27 pm
Thanx I was thinking something along a Syther/Scizor maybe a heracross althogh even hera can be a bit more common Scizor seems like I might try it. The only draw back is I believe I need to get my wifi going again to get the evolution. Still i think I may be able to better fill some of the holes in my team plus i got fire types pretty well covered so even if Scizor goes down the fire type wont last much longer.

Still I think in the end that still gives me roomfor one last pokemon possibly should start looking into a P/Hazer.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 13, 2008, 12:34:28 am
I have a question. I never worried about this whilst EV training my other Pokemon because I assumed not.

When Pokemon gain EVs, then level up without enough to gain a stat point, do the EVs 'carry over' to the next level? Because if they do, and I give my Pokemon an Experience Share, they would accumulate 'bad' stats.

I'd like to train the Pokemon quickly to level 20-ish so it can start it's EV training. I'm not overly worried (I could always use the EXP Share and then fight Pokemon that boost attack anyway, just in case.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 13, 2008, 02:24:56 am
What you can do is 1st put the exp share on the poke you are EV training then use a Pokemon with maxed EVs (one of the pokes you used to finish the story line should be perfectly fine) If you are training say speed stats have the high level fight the pokemon while your poke in training will gain then EV via the XP share. When the Poke being trained is high enough you can switch it to 1st in the party and give it the Macho brace to speed the process up.

Also if you have any other Pokemon you want to train in speed you can put them in your party with the exp share. I can't remember if the macho brace boost is shared via exp share but it still faster to be training 2 poke at once instead of just one. If you do end up accidently giving a pokemon a wrong point of EV there is an easy undo. There are various berries which remove EVs for each stat. You should be able to do a quick search to find out which berries remove which stats.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 13, 2008, 05:06:38 am
Get the Power {Thing} items from Battle Tower, they work much faster than the Macho Brace. I don't know how I ever did without them.

Hariyama can Whirlwind and throw massive Cross Chops around as well as walling flamethrowers and ice beams with Thick Fat. Fun times, especially since he can survive and Counter back a physical attack for a surprise KO. Possible pseudohazer/wall with some offensive capability, that isn't OU like its fellow whirlwinder, Skarmory.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 13, 2008, 03:17:46 pm
Of course the irony being that you need to get a team trained to compete in the battle tower to get the items which increase your ability to train. To be honest what points I am earing in BT I'm savings to get the TMs that I can use on my team of 6. Then again I need to do a bit of an over haul on my 3x3 team as i can't beat the battle master with this team. They currently sweep a lot of teams just run into trouble on his Dragonite.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 14, 2008, 05:27:57 am
Does no member of your team have Ice Beam? That should OHKO Dragonite every time, from pretty much anything that can carry it.

He's harder the second time, with Cresselia, Heatran and the other thing, which I forget (Garchomp?). Still, I managed to beat him and keep going until I ran into Drifloon Destiny Bond ****ING HAX.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 14, 2008, 03:22:49 pm
Yeah my Lanturn has ice beam but Lanturn is slower than draginite and gets OHKO'd. Basically if I have Lanturn on as my lead I can typically take care of Miltotic and Rhyperier no worries at worst I have a Medicham which can brick break Rhyperier as well. Dragintite even if I beat him devastates my team that I can't beat the rest. Typically Flygon is my lead as he sweeps most of my opponents. Draginite he can almost beat (he does better than lanturn). If I built him better he might win.

My 3x3 team was bult back on my ruby copy i didn't breed them I just caught about 6 of each species and used the best of each. Plus it was my 1st competitive team it has many flaws I can't remember where I place my EVs for everything alot of it would have been special and speed for most of them. Dragon claw isn't as effective as it could be on my flygon.

In the end a major over haul is in order I'm thinking maybe putting in a ton of OUs for my 3x3 I got a box filled with Bagons that I bred for trading then maybe a swampert for ice beaming and earthquaking, I havent decided on the last but probably a massive wall.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 14, 2008, 03:41:43 pm
I had a pain in the ass loss against The Tower Tycoon.

My lead was Electavire, who I switched out for obvious reasons, to Alakazam. Alakazam was then frozen by Ice Beam (What are the chances?) So I had to use Scizor, who killed Rhyperior but was OHKO'd by Milotic. I sent out Electavire, who beat Milotic in one thunder punch, the lost ot Dragonite. Dragonite the smushed Alakazam before it unfroze.

Infuriating.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 14, 2008, 04:11:50 pm
The first fight with the TT is pretty easy for me. Both my Porygon-Z and Milotic pack Ice Beam, and my Milotic wins the mirror match with Toxic. Usually I don't even need to deploy Garchomp, since it's kind of hard to lose too many pokemon to someone who has a Rhyperior with Ice Beam.

The second round (Fight 49) was tougher, but I can barely remember how it went. I couldn't remember his third pokemon because it was so rubbish compared to his other two, it's Regigigas, worst legendary ever.

I kept going for a while before getting killed off by Focus Blast Raichu, a piece of cannon fodder that I can't even remember, and Drifloon Destiny Bond (somehow, it was faster than Garchomp,) even though the Destiny Bonding Drifloon was their last pokemon. And thats the story of my best run so far in Battle Tower.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 18, 2008, 11:27:27 am
Just a clarification, If I'm fighting Trainers using the Vs Seeker, every time we battle their pokemon will beocme progresisvley stronger?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 18, 2008, 11:35:46 am
Untill the become lv 70, indeed.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 18, 2008, 12:04:15 pm
Didn't know that!
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 18, 2008, 12:05:18 pm
They seem to do it very irregularly, though. Is it something to do with the relative level of your team?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 18, 2008, 12:59:41 pm
They seem to do it very irregularly, though. Is it something to do with the relative level of your team?

Yeah. Sometime the levels increase, sometimes they don't. Bizarre. I'm going to keep working on the same 'patch' of trainers.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 18, 2008, 04:09:42 pm
Yeah i have notice they increase irregularly sometime I can fight them multiple times and they will stay level 19. Others will zoom into the high 50s quickly. I always keep a high level or 2 in my team just in case Sometimes carry an uber just to be sure.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 20, 2008, 10:40:58 pm
Train on the rich couple. Good xp + money.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 21, 2008, 02:04:22 am
Yeah I been hitting up the rich boy on route 222 i think it is bust out me amulet coin and take him to the cleaners.

I'm going through a fortune buying master balls to try and catch a lonely ditto. I'm starting to suspect Lonely ditto's are lonely because they don't hang out in the grass areas with the other ditto.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on February 21, 2008, 02:42:26 am
Wow, I thought Vs Seeker exp fodder only went to 60, and only a hand full of 'em.. Oh well.

D'oh, had no idea that trainer's pokés gave 50% more exp! (discovered that last night.)

"Update of me, If anybody is bored enough to feign reading" Yeah.
New shiny, OH YEAH!!  ... It's a blue gastrodon, it. looks. the. same. 97% the same. meh, EVs rock! So do Eevees. Trump card's last hit is wicked, takes too long to use it though. Takes too long to use last resort too, lame move. return.

I HATE the new sprites for Ninetails and Vulpix. The other image (while it is animating) is much better, not quite ruby quality, but close. I want a hack or update, to switch which image is number one, and which is number two.

Finished the national dex, only had to use my AR for a couple things; the legends you basically can't get, the G/S starters, magmar family and rhyperior. Didn't wanna waste buckets of cash for leaf green or my only protector, which I can't replace.

Oh, and you can't give the noobs with bidoofs on GTS mews, it don't work at all. LOL, I had to try it atleast once. (they aren't cloning, they have no items on the fat lard of big toothness.)

Anyone have lucky egg the right way? been trying for what seems like eternity, my Eevee was 91 when I started, got a shuckle holding exp share since level 24 and it's 41 and the Eevee is 93 now, this is my second attempt at getting lucky egg.. Bloody 5% Chansey appear rate with bloody 5% lucky egg drop rate.. I AM ANNOYED.

Have a nice day, sorry I post the way I do. :p
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 21, 2008, 03:08:51 am
Best way for lucky eggs. Go to the poke mansion save before entering talk to th guy who says what is common in the garden if he doesn't say chansey reset to save and keep trying until he says chancey when he does go into garden out back and start using radar to find chanceys when u do chain then making sure to catch them all until u get one with the egg.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on February 21, 2008, 04:43:36 am
Hey man, Cobra, DUDE! I didn't know save-load worked at the mansion! Thanks! Oh, chansey is one of the special mansion pokés huh? Ok then, I'll be sure and do that, thanks!
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o




btw, covet or thief (most pokémon can learn thief through breeding or tm.) are faster than catching, great for fishing-stealing Luvdiscs heart scales. I don't like Luvdisc much, but it's the pokémon I fish for the most..

I'm glad Jigglypuff is in smash bros. brawl, she rocks.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 21, 2008, 10:05:52 am
I've decided on a new addition to my team, that I'll ocassionally employ against certain opponents: An Arcanine.

There seem to be a lot of high-defence steel types that are major players in battles; Bronzong, Metagross, Skarmory, Magnezone, Scizor...

A few of my friends have started to use them more commonly (One of them depends upon his Skarmory's Spikes and Roaring, aswell as his special sweeper Sceptile), so I've decided I'll bring a high-damage fire type to the party, and I've always loved Arcanine. Yes, I know, scary Stealth Rock. Arcanine isn't going to last long anyway, so I've made peace with that.


My moveset currently is:

Flare Blitz
Overheat
Thunderfang (In case someone switches in Gyarados or Milotic)
Roar/Howl/Iron Tail/Extremespeed/Bite/Crunch

As you can see, I'm not sure what to have for my last slot. Arcanine will function primarily as a physical hitter, changing to Overheat when faced with on of the aforementioned Steel types. I just have no idea what I want for the last slot. Roar will get rid of any pesky Pokemon boosting thier own stats, or if someone switches in Rhyperior or something. Howl is a simple attack booster, which quite a few people reccomend. Iron Tail might give a few Rock types a nasty suprise, and Extremespeed is a signature move, and essentially Quick Attack on steroids. I'm also quite willing to utterly change his moveset.

Help?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 21, 2008, 10:54:44 am
I'd go with Extremespeed or maybe Dragon Pulse in that last slot. Nothing outright resists Dragon Pulse/Overheat, and it hits scary stuff life Salamence and Garchomp super-effectively. That said, Salamence and Garchomp will probably kill Arcanine anyway.

I'm not convinced of the effectiveness of Iron Tail: it has low accuracy and still bounces off Rhyperior like nothing. Dragon Pulse would certainly hit him harder. Extremespeed's usefulness goes without saying, though.

Of course, if you don't already have a team member with Roar or Whirlwind, that's pretty important to get.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 22, 2008, 02:07:25 am
Garchomp will mostly likely Earthquake Arcanine out of the arena pretty fast. Still I have put some considaration to adding an Arcanaine to my team. If only because i think it's a pretty sweet poke even if it does fall slightly short of being in OU. Still it looks like it was buffed nicely  in D/P.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on February 23, 2008, 02:29:06 am
Ok, the 40-step then refresh repeatedly thing works great, I got two shiny female Glooms! Woot!

Also, the "Shiny Sparkle" can be a lot of different patterns. It's been different each time I've seen it.

Gonna get me a Shiny Murkrow tommorow night if I can, and maybe a Porygon or Eevee or something coo' like that! WOO!! Best item ever in any game: Pokéradar. (unless anything in Spore counts. :p)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 23, 2008, 04:52:53 am
I beat the game for the second time 2 days ago (since I lost my old save) and I got a complete guide on shiny chaining, since the guide recommended for me to start with easy ones and I went for a shiny starly, I managed to get a chain of 14 starlys and then a freaking son of a bi...barel (aka bidoof) breaks my chain, I've tried this 5 times so far and the 15th pokemon is always a bidoof that breaks my chain...

Here's what I'm doing:

- Get onto a patch of grass with good visibility.
- Use the radar.
- Move to one style of grass (usually the ones where the white/yellow "things" come out)
- KO the opponent.
- The grass will move again and I walk to the one with the same style using this grid as a guide:

X444X444X
433333334
432222234
432111234
X321U123X
432111234
432222234
433333334
X444X444X

Where X will break the chain, 4 is highest proability of keeping the chain and 1 is less. U is you.

Am I doing something wrong?

Also, for me to get a shiny is the grass supposed to sparkle after a chain of 40? or will it sometimes sparkle before 40?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 23, 2008, 05:45:06 am
It can sometimes sparkle before forty, although the odds of getting a shiny won't yet be maximised.

Actually, I run into trouble around the 15 mark too, although I was hunting for Cubones and other swarming pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 24, 2008, 03:37:22 am
Make sure you can see all the patches, and always go in the same style of patch.

If you're a lucky bast...iodon, you might get a shiny patch as your first and chain some shinies.

Of course, you could nolife it too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 24, 2008, 07:59:33 am
OK, New Pokemon for Mr. C's Team, as he has a match coming up and wants a new secret.

It shall be a Lickilicky, of all things.


I plan to use the following moves:

Gyro Ball
Counter
Curse (Possibility)
OTHER MOVE.

My basic idea is simply for Likcilicky to serve as part-tank, who should deal with unprepared sweepers. Gyro Ball should kill off speedy pests, like Alakazam, whilst I can rely on Counter to deal with stockier, physical opponents. All EVs to go in defence and HP to keep me alive through one hit to finish the opponent off. My Alakazam may be able to set up with Trick Room, which will serve Lickilicky well, as he can hit first with Gyro Ball and still do decent damage, aswell as possibly heal himself and the like. This would also serve well because it Lickilicky does some damage then explodes, I can do further damage with Snorlax.

Move tips?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 24, 2008, 08:06:08 am
If you use Curse, Trick room and Gyro ball are must-haves, as Curse ups Gyro's power by slowing lickylilly down and adding Att points.

Don't forget to breed lickilly to have a speed damaging nature + an IV that turns its speed in utter crap.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 24, 2008, 08:14:07 am
Trick Room on Alakazam?

LOLWHAT




Seriously, don't do that. Use Slowbro or Bronzong or something.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 24, 2008, 08:23:41 am
Trick Room on Alakazam for Snorlax, not for Alakazam. I generally use it to set up for Snorlax.

I've also realised I can't have Counter; I'd have to bring over a Lickilicky from another game. Cancel that idea.

So...

Gyro Ball
Curse
Explosion (?)
Me First


Use Curse for awhile, hit speedy people with Gyro Ball, possibly strike at Ghosts with Me First (It uses thier move against them? Have I understood this right?) if they've been sent out to 'wall' my Normalness or avoid my explosion... Keep on fighting with Curse's defences until I start to drift to having little HP, then finish with an Explosion and take someone down with me.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 24, 2008, 10:13:07 am
3rd day of chaining and still no shinies. Anyways, is there a way to increase the contest stats (beauty, coolness, etc) other than giving the pokemon poffins? cause my infernape is full :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 24, 2008, 12:48:34 pm
Trick Room on Alakazam for Snorlax, not for Alakazam. I generally use it to set up for Snorlax.

Alakazam is a glass cannon, it doesn't have time to set up utility moves. If your opponent does anything except switch out on the turn you use Trick Room, all you get is a dead Alakazam.

Me First won't work very well. I think you need to be faster to start with, but if not, it'll still never hit a ghost super-effective. Gyro Ball works on ghosts except Dusknoir and Spiritomb, and I can't imagine them doing anything particularly helpful if you me-first them, aside from possibly Will-o-Wisp.

You can hit them with Earthquake, or use Return for more power against other things.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 24, 2008, 12:52:25 pm
So drop Me First for something more practical like Earthquake, or some other mundane high-damage attack?

I've been considering dropping Trick Room from Alakazam for a long time, but have deliberated over the choice simply because I was never sure what to replace it with. Focus Blast's accuracy puts me off, and thats what everyone seems eager to put forward. Perhaps Shadow Ball?


EDIT: Looking over the List, Charge Beam Seems Viable (although I already cover Waters with Energy Ball).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 24, 2008, 12:59:27 pm
Shadow Ball, Energy Ball and Grass Knot are good options, though Focus Blast certainly has its merits.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 24, 2008, 01:19:22 pm
Is false swipe the only move that leaves the opponent with 1HP? I'm trying to raise a pokemon only for capturing others (with an abbility to stop them from running away, mwuhahaha), it would also be nice to have a move to stop pokemon from self destructing :x
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on February 25, 2008, 03:04:21 am
If you using lickylicky.

-Curse
-Return/Trick room
-Gyro Ball
-Wish/Earthquake

Obviously Curse to lower speed and max gyro also get a nice defence buff (and attack). Return is a good normal type attack Wish for recovering HP for your self or even Team mates or you can just quake them with your buffed attack.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on February 25, 2008, 05:26:55 am
Darkdragon, I'll try to help a bit if I can, you did allow me to see the new spore videos after all :P

First, buy a lot of super repels, I would say, maybe 995, 999 just to be safe.. (ok thats too extreme, just, get a lot of them.) Because if you DO get to 40, it can sometimes still take a long time refreshing the radar to get a shiny (watch your step.), It is possible, to get more than one shiny in a chain. Most I've got is 3, but I tried for a fourth just.. because... Until it got annoying boring.

You're doing the pattern right, dunno why you can't get past 14.. I tend to be able to get to 40 now a lot more.. Hmm.. I would say, try bigger grass patch yet? Or I might say, Determination is key, don't give up, it only takes time.. Sometimes a LOT*.  Yeah, they can appear early in the chain.. VERY early.

Don't forget, if you DO get the chain to 40, you CAN get

Psyduck family, Poliwag family, and Wooper family can have damp, get one of them if you plan on catching an exploder, but don't have enough master balls to waste.

False swipe is the best move for catching.. Anything.. Except ghosts and super-hard pokémon like steel and rock, but still a lot safer than getting a critical hit and wasting a shiny (I hope this never happens to anyone, ever.)
~~~ Use Serebii.net and maybe you can find something you can get that can use both False Swipe and Odor Sleuth/Foresight :o ~~~

I got my Gastrodon before I knew the 40-chain secrets and the distance to walk secrets, but the shiny tile appeared at a chain of 3 gastrodons, I was only trying to level up. Oh, and when I was hunting for my ponyta for.. days, it happened at 33 of the chain, yeah, I'm real lucky with the number 3.... weird.
______________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
8) *Brag* Shinies captured: 14. *Brag*                    *Brag* Shinies captured: 14. *Brag* 8)
______________________________________________________________________
My shiny progress:  ;D
Pokéradar rocks, Got myself 3 Shiny Shinx (siblings get the spares as gifts.), 2 Shiny Electrike (spare to trade with a sibling, whoever gets a spare shiny first.), 1 Shiny Buneary (proud of this one, it appeared on like, 10-11 of the chain 8)),
* and FINALLY got that Murkrow. It took well over (atleast) 120 Super Repels. and like 2 or 3 hours! It just would not appear after I got the chain to 40! ARGH!..!!..!!!!1!!!1!1Eleven!!11!!!!! :P  Named it "Cello".. yeah.


Oh, and several "LOL"s dotted here and there, would look too sloppy if I put 'em up there.

There isn't any easy way to get shiny water Fish pokémon right? (So far I've got one shiny fish, my Sharpedo.)

Never give up, never surrender! oh.. 4:22 AM here.. Sorry for making so many words in one white-grey-ish box. Hope something was useful or inspiring or what-bloody-ever.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 25, 2008, 05:39:26 am

~~~ Use veekun.com and maybe you can find something you can get that can use both False Swipe and Odor Sleuth/Foresight :o ~~~

Fixed.

Farfetch'd and Sneasel can. You have to breed foresight onto them both, though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 25, 2008, 08:04:09 am
Darkdragon, I'll try to help a bit if I can, you did allow me to see the new spore videos after all :P

First, buy a lot of super repels, I would say, maybe 995, 999 just to be safe.. (ok thats too extreme, just, get a lot of them.) Because if you DO get to 40, it can sometimes still take a long time refreshing the radar to get a shiny (watch your step.), It is possible, to get more than one shiny in a chain. Most I've got is 3, but I tried for a fourth just.. because... Until it got annoying boring.

You're doing the pattern right, dunno why you can't get past 14.. I tend to be able to get to 40 now a lot more.. Hmm.. I would say, try bigger grass patch yet? Or I might say, Determination is key, don't give up, it only takes time.. Sometimes a LOT*.  Yeah, they can appear early in the chain.. VERY early.

Don't forget, if you DO get the chain to 40, you CAN get

Psyduck family, Poliwag family, and Wooper family can have damp, get one of them if you plan on catching an exploder, but don't have enough master balls to waste.

False swipe is the best move for catching.. Anything.. Except ghosts and super-hard pokémon like steel and rock, but still a lot safer than getting a critical hit and wasting a shiny (I hope this never happens to anyone, ever.)
~~~ Use Serebii.net and maybe you can find something you can get that can use both False Swipe and Odor Sleuth/Foresight :o ~~~

I got my Gastrodon before I knew the 40-chain secrets and the distance to walk secrets, but the shiny tile appeared at a chain of 3 gastrodons, I was only trying to level up. Oh, and when I was hunting for my ponyta for.. days, it happened at 33 of the chain, yeah, I'm real lucky with the number 3.... weird.
______________________________________________________________________
______________________________________________________________________
8) *Brag* Shinies captured: 14. *Brag*                    *Brag* Shinies captured: 14. *Brag* 8)
______________________________________________________________________
My shiny progress:  ;D
Pokéradar rocks, Got myself 3 Shiny Shinx (siblings get the spares as gifts.), 2 Shiny Electrike (spare to trade with a sibling, whoever gets a spare shiny first.), 1 Shiny Buneary (proud of this one, it appeared on like, 10-11 of the chain 8)),
* and FINALLY got that Murkrow. It took well over (atleast) 120 Super Repels. and like 2 or 3 hours! It just would not appear after I got the chain to 40! ARGH!..!!..!!!!1!!!1!1Eleven!!11!!!!! :P  Named it "Cello".. yeah.


Oh, and several "LOL"s dotted here and there, would look too sloppy if I put 'em up there.

There isn't any easy way to get shiny water Fish pokémon right? (So far I've got one shiny fish, my Sharpedo.)

Never give up, never surrender! oh.. 4:22 AM here.. Sorry for making so many words in one white-grey-ish box. Hope something was useful or inspiring or what-bloody-ever.

hehe, thanks a lot. I was doing everything right, just unlucky... then yesterday a Shiny Male Floatzel appeared on a chain of 22, I caught it with a Luxury ball and then on the 23rd chain another one showed up (this time a female) and I caught it with a heal ball, it was fun, I got a couple of Shiny Floatzels xD

Right after that I took my raichu and went to hunt for Shiny Shinx cause I love the color and got one on a chain of 2!

That was about it, after 4 days I finally got 3 shinies in one day xD
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 25, 2008, 10:19:43 am
Guess who just got a shiny roserade?



Chaining that roselia took ages :-p
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 25, 2008, 10:25:16 am
Pfft, I had a shiny Roserade ages ago.

Of course, it's one of my only two shinies, both of which popped up randomly since I'm so bad at chaining.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 25, 2008, 10:44:11 am
Seriously? My Roselia chain always got broken by my arch-nemesis in Trophy Garden chaining...





Pichu.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Paradox on February 25, 2008, 12:46:24 pm
Finally picked this up ready to build a team. Milotic and Heracross from R/S, but I'm going old skool with Charizard, Gengar and Umbreon, the final slot is undecided but I might just go with Lanturn as I already have 2 at Lv 100.

Is it just me or did anyone else not know you can clean the gym badges?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 25, 2008, 01:07:49 pm
Clean... Gym... Badges?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on February 25, 2008, 01:17:53 pm
For people who are insane. Don't worry too much about it.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 25, 2008, 04:19:21 pm
Yeah, if you tap them with the stylus you can clean them and make them shine xD
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on February 25, 2008, 05:32:10 pm
Each one plays a note so you can make music out of it. Clean a badge maybe half way for a flat note and in between. A waste of time really.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on February 25, 2008, 06:22:23 pm
I cleaned them all up to 4 sparkling stars in 5 minutes (they were all dark gray or whatever).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on February 26, 2008, 11:50:23 am
Ugh, I got up to 27 in a chain, whichwas 10 more than my previous record, then lost it. It's incredibly irritating.

What exactly does a shiney sparkle look like with the pokeradar? And what happens if you use the pokeradar in long grass?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on February 26, 2008, 11:56:28 am
You can't use in long grass, and shiny patch is yellow sparkles/stars.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 02, 2008, 11:31:28 am
I know this isn't family friendly and is disgusting, but....

I just breed my female Gloom, then looked at it's face afterwards and laughed. Go look at the Gloom sprite, seriously. Besides the obvious, the faintly disgusted face is a giveaway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on March 02, 2008, 12:01:51 pm
*Checks*

*Laughs for three days straight*
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on March 02, 2008, 03:08:50 pm
Looks like that Gloom is having some dirty fun :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 03, 2008, 01:27:04 pm
I need some help setting up my Wi-Fi connection. At home, I have a Wireless internet connection. However, whenever I scan for it, it claims my security settings are not supported by the DS and directs me to the (useless) website.

Anyone experienced anything similar? Would disabling a firewall or some other security option help?

I'm using a Sky Wireless Broadband package.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 03, 2008, 03:19:09 pm
What type of security format does your wireless router have.

It needs to be WEP or it won't work.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on March 05, 2008, 05:24:48 am
The shiny sparkle (after you wear out the graphics so much it doesn't make the cooler ones any more.) lasts the longest, doesn't shake the grass, and is in a loose cluster of 4-5(6?) specks; depending on which graphic it decided to use. I seem to think they are kinda purple.. more than yellow, but the cool ones were pure white.. I dunno, I might have been so tired making them appear everything was purple.. whatever.
ANYWAY, the point is, you won't think it's shiny, you will know. And it will burn holes into your brain. Then you proceed to collect 20 of 'em, and your left thumb falls off.

Advice or TIPS/whatever (mostly intended for people just skimming this thread to see what it says):
1: Make sure you eat first, you won't likely want to risk messing up your chain just to keep from starving to death. If you forget to eat first, get into a battle, then eat.
2: Buy all of the super repels, all of them.
3: It never hurts to have 200-300+ leppa berries, revives, and some sort of potions (if they're the higher level Pokés you want).
4: Walls are pure evil, this includes empty ground, fences, trees.. anything except more radar grass.
5: That guy in the starly-bidoof grass left of Sandgem could potentially steal a shiny. If this game had killing... Yeah.
6: To get the chain to 40 (1 in 200 chance is awesome), take no chances at all. Rather than other charts, follow the chart below. you are X, tiles that are made of evil are 0, tiles that are safe(est) are 5.
055505550
500000005
500000005
500000005
0000X0000
500000005
500000005
500000005
055505550

If that is hard to read, count the tiles from where you start, if it takes 4 tiles one direction, then turn and walk 1-3 tiles, it's safe(est). Though you may still have to actually walk a different path.
__________________________________________________________________________


Sorry my posts are big, really.

But it's awesome! I got my first perfect-near perfect shiny!
Female, Ralts, Synchronize, Modest, high sp.atk IVs... !!!! On top of that, the chain was at 5, Gardevoir is one of my 3 favorites, and I don't have enough Psychics at level 50. Also got a *Spoink and a *Medicham
*Shiny.. Duh..

____________

Oh, right, good luck with the Wi-Fi! I really wish I could get it, I could probably get a shiny flygon for that one dude, and we could fight and.. whatever...  :'(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 10, 2008, 10:50:09 am
I'd just like to say that I love my Slaking.

Everyone hates him, but I love him. Who cares about his ability when you OHKO with every attack?

Anyway, his moveset and explanations:

Giga Impact
Shadow Claw (I'm thinking of leading with this, as I can see many people switching to Ghost Types as soon as I send Slaking out.)
Punishment (For the aforementioned Ghosts, aswell as hitting Baton Passers hard in the begining.)
Hammer Arm (For Steels?)

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on March 10, 2008, 10:57:59 am
Hm, Giga Impact could work on a Slaking with his ability.

Also, you could add a move like Slack Off there, as his ability only stops using attacking moves. And a bit of recovery can never hurt.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 10, 2008, 11:11:46 am
Hm, Giga Impact could work on a Slaking with his ability.

Also, you could add a move like Slack Off there, as his ability only stops using attacking moves. And a bit of recovery can never hurt.

Slaking can use Slack Off on the 'wasted' turn?

Really?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on March 10, 2008, 12:16:27 pm
According to Serebii, he can use status moves.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 10, 2008, 01:30:31 pm
Thanks, thats a huge help.

I'll definitley be carrying Slack Off then.

Which narrows my options down to;

Giga Impact
Slack Off
Shadow Claw
Punishment

A good set? Instead of Punishment or Shadow Claw, I think Fire Punch or Hammer Arm are very viable options for dealing with Steel.

EDIT: Slaking cannot use Slack Off on the Loafing around Turn. I'll test Amnesia (Although I'll probably replace that with Bulk
Up.)

Slaking cannot boost it's stats between turns either? Are you sure Slaking can do anything on it's Loafing around turn?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 10, 2008, 03:39:59 pm
No, it cannot. Anyone who believes that it can is a total retard. All you can do with Slaking on it's loafing around turn is switch it - and if you use Giga Impact, you can't even do that.


So that's a case for using Return instead of Giga Impact for your power move, if you value survivability over sheer power. Oh, and note that Ghost type attacks are super effective against ghosts, so you don't actually need Punishment at all. Earthquake and Fire Punch are probably the best other two moves that I can think of, but as I recall you need Emerald to get Fire Punch. Outside of them, Hammer Arm or Brick Break are possibly his best options.

In case you're interested, mine runs Return, Brick Break, Shadow Claw and, ideally, Earthquake, but I haven't obtained the TM I need for that yet. So he's stuck with Flail =/
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 11, 2008, 10:59:03 am
Yeah, I'm dropping Punishment for Earthquake, and Slack Off for Zen Headbutt. (Slaking is being utilised for a Pokemon tournament where we are only using one type each. Someone has chose fighting.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on March 11, 2008, 11:51:58 am
Hm, odd, I thought he could do something else then attack on his loafing turn. Truant says: He cannot attack consecutively.


Anyway, sorry for confusing :-p
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 11, 2008, 12:00:18 pm
Hm, odd, I thought he could do something else then attack on his loafing turn. Truant says: He cannot attack consecutively.


Anyway, sorry for confusing :-p

Attack in Pokemon is synonymous with Move.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Ryederz on March 11, 2008, 07:29:43 pm
hmmm i only play red,yellow and blue version. i'll try diamond
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on March 11, 2008, 08:05:13 pm
hmmm i only play red,yellow and blue version. i'll try diamond

You sure missed a lot of fun :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 12, 2008, 03:00:26 am
You still slack after the OHKO. You can also be in trouble if you go up against a focus sasher you can go on to sweep. Still in the end you may be able to brute force past a physical wall. I really need to get back to working on my team I got bored for a while and started just evolving various starters.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 12, 2008, 12:02:24 pm
I don't think anybody expects Slaking to sweep away an entire team unaided; he's a Choice Bander at heart. Devastating, but only if you play him right. He is robust enough to take a couple of hits, though.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Ryederz on March 12, 2008, 10:15:21 pm
hmmm i only play red,yellow and blue version. i'll try diamond

You sure missed a lot of fun :P

yup :( i missed a lot. i don't have enough time to play other game like before. instead of playing i go to sleep early to recharge and be ready for the next day of work. but i do have lots of time reading forums.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 13, 2008, 01:06:53 pm
Another moveset....

My Ambipom 'Ho Chi Minh'

- U-Turn
- Fake Out


What other moves shall he have? Basically, whenever I get a free switch, he'll come in, with a Fake out, and disappear with more damage to something bulkier using U-Turn. I'm just wondering what else his movset should have. Websites reccomend Payback (I can't see why, he's unlikely to survive a direct assault, or attack second.)
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 13, 2008, 01:38:18 pm
Return and Brick Break are the first things that come to mind.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on March 15, 2008, 06:59:54 pm
i feel stupid for asking this (mainly because i don't even know exactly where i am) but I'm stuck. I'm at the place where it's got a lot of rocks (Veilstone city, I think) and this dude tells me I can't pass to the next city due to a power outage. What exactly do i do here?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 15, 2008, 07:08:17 pm
I take it you mean your in resort area south of the town. Og into the main resort building in the south area of the resort. you can walk through the building (and heal if you talk tot he desk clerk) It will take you to a beach follow the beach west tot he next town.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 16, 2008, 09:53:05 am
I think you have to go and get the Lake Pokemon, or do something else not-gym related, before you can progress. Don't really remember.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: 762 on March 16, 2008, 10:58:52 am
Thanks, that worked great. I spent about an hour trying to figure out where to go! :D

Is it just me, or is Crasher Wake really easy?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 16, 2008, 11:07:26 am
Most of the game is pretty easy, if you have reasonably levelled 'mon and a stock of potions.


Oh, and I just though: Payback would actually be pretty useful on Ambipom, since otherwise he's completely harmlesss to Ghosts. They'd be immune to all his moves except U-Turn, which they resist (In Gengar's case, 4x.) So go with Payback over Return unless you have a really good reason not to be concerned about Ghosts.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 16, 2008, 11:17:33 am
Yeah, that'd probably be alot better.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Neoteric on March 16, 2008, 01:14:02 pm
Yeah, with it's Technician ability, Punishment is a great attack. The ability will make it equal Brick Break in power, plus, there's always the chance that someone will switch something into it, doubling the power again.

So, I'm trying to get a team together. Does getting decent IV's always take this long? I've spent hours hatching eggs now and none of them have had more than 20 in the stats they need. :-\
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: CrasherWake...But Better on March 16, 2008, 02:11:51 pm
Yeah, with it's Technician ability, Punishment is a great attack. The ability will make it equal Brick Break in power, plus, there's always the chance that someone will switch something into it, doubling the power again.

So, I'm trying to get a team together. Does getting decent IV's always take this long? I've spent hours hatching eggs now and none of them have had more than 20 in the stats they need. :-\

The Technician ability is pretty cool, it essentially makes weak moves mega-powerful.

Fake Out is a nice option for Ambipom, make sure you max out Ambi's Attack EV's, so that Fake Out is annoying as possible. Speed EV's are also a must
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 16, 2008, 05:42:57 pm
Yeah, with it's Technician ability, Punishment is a great attack. The ability will make it equal Brick Break in power, plus, there's always the chance that someone will switch something into it, doubling the power again.

So, I'm trying to get a team together. Does getting decent IV's always take this long? I've spent hours hatching eggs now and none of them have had more than 20 in the stats they need. :-\

Pfft, I don't bother with IV's. The odds against getting something decent in more than one specific stat are pretty huge.

If you couldn't use Everstone trickery to get the right nature, it would just be ridiculous to even try.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 17, 2008, 04:40:44 am
Also use the poke with the best stats as a parent so the kid inherits good stats if you give birth to a poke with better stats in an area you want bring that one in as the parent.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on March 19, 2008, 03:02:54 am
Heh, I got this AR code that makes any of two of your pokemon breed instantly after one step (as far as one is male and the other female), including pokes that can't breed with each other, it was fun. But then I tried with 2 females, 2 males, 1 male & 1 legendary, 1 female and 1 legendary and they all crashed the game when I walked 1 step :(
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on March 19, 2008, 09:00:13 am
Yeah, you need to your AR sparingly or you risk getting carried away. :P
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 19, 2008, 02:01:09 pm
Or not at all, Boo! Hiss!

I have a question; I waited until my Growlithe was level 48 to evolve it. Does this mean, at level 100, it will have the same stats as a Growlithe evolved at a much earlier level?

If not, would I have to breed the moves I levelled it up for onto a new Growlithe, and start again?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 19, 2008, 02:03:34 pm
Yes, the stats will be the same. Base stats come out the same no matter what level you evolve your pokemon at. The only sources of variation in pokemon stats are EVs, IVs, and Natures.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on March 21, 2008, 02:18:04 am
Yeah, base stats rock.

And apparently there is no reason to keep pikachu from evolving after you like the moves, ain't like the olden days at all, nope.

And stats can drop sometimes, nincada has more defense than ninjask, and murkrow and scyther are faster until they evolve too. But it's almost always better to evolve later, so 48 is good. I should have let my shiny ponyta evolve at 50... Gonna have to send it to 100 eventually now.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 23, 2008, 08:12:24 am
Hurrah.

I trust the same is true for the Beldum I just caught.

Yeah, I'm pretty proud.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 23, 2008, 09:26:59 am
... But you'll want to evolve Beldum as soon as possible, won't you? It doesn't learn any moves either than Take-Down while it's a Beldum.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 23, 2008, 10:04:07 am
Yeah, but you can only catch it at level 53, long past it's natural evolution level.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 23, 2008, 10:06:22 am
Ah, of course. I forgot about that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 23, 2008, 06:56:33 pm
But you can breed them with ditto to get it back to a level 1 so it all good.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 24, 2008, 03:19:08 am
But you can breed them with ditto to get it back to a level 1 so it all good.

Beldum can't breed, unfortunatley.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on March 24, 2008, 03:25:03 am
Except that, like Magnemite and all its genderless friends, it can, with ditto.

Or at least Metagross can, anyway.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on March 25, 2008, 04:03:51 am
Yeah, metagross can breed with ditto, almost anything can. But not legendaries (with the exception of Manaphy to get Phione.) and unown. I dunno about the Nidos.
...
Is Beat Up any good on Ambipom? Seems weak to me unless it's a 6vs6 battle.

Is the Math for Technician-Double Hit 35+100%(50%+50%)=70x2=140?
or is it:
35+50% = 52.5+50% = 78.75x2 = 157.5?
Return is 104 power, 156 with STAB. That's a whole 1.5 power less... lol..

Also.. Is there anything more unique than a shiny spinda?

Edit: Hehehe, I now have twelve level 50 fully EVd Shiny Pokémon. And a level 61 Shiny Rhyperior with Rock Solid ability! Hahahahaha!!..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 25, 2008, 04:12:28 am
But you can breed them with ditto to get it back to a level 1 so it all good.

Beldum can't breed, unfortunatley.

I got 5 Beldum stored in one of my boxes that say otherwise.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on March 25, 2008, 04:31:28 am
Well, of course some Pokémon must evolve to a non-pathetic form to breed, beldum, pichu, etc. you know, the baby pokémon. (yes. beldum is a baby.)

All baby pokémon are first forms, but not all first forms are babies. Yup.

good luck anyways. (jes bloom'n 'volve a bleed'n beldum to ah bleed'n metagross.)


Pickup is awesome. 60+ rare candies. Legal. WOOT! I only use them on rare/lazy occasions. or to get a 49 to 50.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on March 25, 2008, 04:40:52 am
rare candy is one way to check for IVs so its a good thing to have. Plus once you max out EV rarecandy is a pretty good way to max out especially once you get to about lvl 70 when level up is a pain in the bum.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on March 25, 2008, 09:22:40 am
In that case, I shall breed one with a decent nature.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: DarkDragon on March 29, 2008, 08:42:42 am
I got a random shiny (not one of those you get by chaining)... a red gyarados... lol
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on March 31, 2008, 01:38:17 am
Ok, I've got a shiny Phanpy caught at level 5, I can't really decide what to let it learn, I kinda want last resort, but double edge is much more reliable. but then there is also flail-endure combo, that seems good too. and there is defense curl-rollout combo, but that is annoying to use. and after it evolves it can get fire/ice fang....but charm and scary face are good dueling moves....   
 help?.. me?...


Also, still kinda need some opinions of beat up on an ambipom...
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 05, 2008, 06:54:15 am
Earthquake, Stone Edge, Rapid Spin, Ice Shard, Roar, Stealth Rock.

Beat Up isn't reliable enough to be realistically used. It's more useless than Explosion if he's your last 'mon, or if your team has no serious physical attackers.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on April 05, 2008, 09:41:42 pm
Alrighty, thanks /lurk! Was starting to think everyone abandoned the portable games section :)

Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 06, 2008, 12:25:05 am
Beat Up isn't reliable enough to be realistically used. It's more useless than Explosion if he's your last 'mon, or if your team has no serious physical attackers.

How does Beat Up actually work?

Question Number 2: Does Trick Room effect Priority Moves, like Extremespeed or Shadowsneak?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on April 06, 2008, 05:55:39 am
It gives a 10 power dark type physical attack from the Attack stat of all the unfainted pokemon in your party, I think. I've never really played around with Trick Room, but I assume that priority moves still go first - otherwise negative priority moves like Counter would always go first, and be completely useless. I'm not certain of that, though. Try it out and see.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on April 07, 2008, 12:48:53 am
I'm not sure about hitting steel, but beat up doesn't do super effective to pure ghost or pure psychic, which dark is strong against.. so.. I think it's neutral damage, tagged as dark for target reasons..
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on April 14, 2008, 02:36:57 pm
Hm, what is the point of the underground cave explorer thing?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on April 15, 2008, 12:53:24 am
You can get evolution stones, various fossils, plates and shards. I'm not sure what the shards do, but you can get all the other things from down there.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 15, 2008, 04:53:50 am
I think shards are for trading with the move tutor.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Martham112 on April 15, 2008, 06:45:56 am
Doesn't the move tutor take heart scales? It doesn't really matter as you can find them down there too.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 15, 2008, 09:12:09 am
Yeah, Heart Scales are for re-teaching moves in Pastoria.

Shards are for buying weather TMs on Route 112 (?).
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Cobra on April 15, 2008, 08:46:44 pm
Yeah, Heart Scales are for re-teaching moves in Pastoria.

Shards are for buying weather TMs on Route 112 (?).

That sounds about right I just spent a ton of time in the underground got my self a bit of everything but havent used any of it just yet as haven't need to I think I just got the fossils revived.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 16, 2008, 04:33:57 am
Well, it seems the third version of Diamond and Pearl is all but confirmed.  Coro Coro are revealing a next game in next months issue, that's due to be released sometime this year.  So I was wondering what you guys think they should do to improve it, since things like battle animations and the battle frontier which have been used in the past remakes are already a part of D/P.

1. For me, I'd just really like to see a better variety of wild Pokemon, I think it's been discussed enough that I don't need to go into detail, but yeah, we need to have more than four kinds.  Different areas should have vastly different types that are catchable and they need to tone down the rarity of a few of them.  Being able to trade in Pokemon from older games and use the GTS made hunting for some of those stupidly rare Pokemon pointless, particularly the ones from older games, it was just a waste of time to look for them, and that ruined a lot of the fun for me.  And please take out that damn searcher thing - using it to find shining Pokemon was great, but again, needing it to find certain types was just a pain, and not actually any fun in the slightest.  JUST HAVE MORE TYPES IN THE WILD!

2.  The Poketch thing does not need to look like a crummy LCD watch, period.  How about some nice graphics?

3. Customisation.  How come we still can't create our own trainer, or customise the Pokemon?  Being able to dress them up for the contests was fun, but why couldn't we leave them like that?  Even if it uses a more basic set up, being able to personalise the Pokemon at least a little, would make the online play more exciting.

4. I was a sucker for Pokemon Yellow, having that little Pikachu follow you around was really great.  Diamond and Pearl almost felt like a slap in the face when they let you make certain Pokemon follow you.. but only in one very small area.  Is there any reason we couldn't just do this all the time?  Surely it could be some sort of option to increase happiness for that Pokemon, or something like that.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on April 17, 2008, 05:36:50 am
searcher thing?

If there's another Pokemon game coming, I want more variety in the wild, yes, and more variety overall. More pokemon! More! (I'm not talking about more new pokemon, but rather more from older games added on)

BTW, I don't really like the idea of a pokemon following you everywhere you go. It would get annoying, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 17, 2008, 08:53:03 am
Its not going to happen, but I would be extremely grateful if the next Pokemon game finally deviated from the tiresome template of the old games. Every game since the series inception has just been a rehash of the previous games with more and more ancillary features shoved in in a half-hearted attempt to pacify the demands of fans for new stuff.

Here's what I'd like to see from a new pokemon game:

Take out the arbitrary restrictions on where you go and cut out the linearity of the story.
I stopped playing my copy of Diamond before I'd even beaten half the gyms. Why? Because I'm sick of being restricted from areas of the game for totally arbitrary reasons. Oh no! Psyduck are blocking my path. Oh, fantastic, the road is out. Great, I don't have the right HM.
If the creators stopped resting on their laurels they could have a game where travel is unrestricted, but which still has a story tying it together. If a new game comes out I want to be able to go all the way to a semifinal area of the game without even visiting a single gym, then go back to the first gym with level 50 pokemon and kick that guy's ass.

No more lame rival, no more professor tree, no more Team Non-Sequitor. I don't want to see another 'agonising' choice on my part between Fire, Water and Grass type monsters. Let me play as some stupid bug-catcher kid that starts out with no pokedex and only a caterpie to his name and only actually gets a pokedex half way through the game when his rise to prominence in the pokemon trainer community catches the attention of a wealthy sponsor. Or how about playing as a cop in the pokemon world, charged with hunting down some poke-criminals with the help of his police growlithe? The possibilities are endless, and yet we've so far seen the same damn game four times in a row.

More variety in pokemon as suggested by WSB would also be nice. Somehow I don't see how an ecosystem consisting entirely of geodudes and bellsprouts working. They should make more of the day/night thing, and maybe add a seasonal aspect as well.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: WinterSnowblind on April 17, 2008, 11:04:43 am
BTW, I don't really like the idea of a pokemon following you everywhere you go. It would get annoying, wouldn't it?

Well it worked in Yellow, and I loved it there.  But I did say it should be an option.   :P

I was going to post this earlier, but the site was down, so here's the link for proof.
http://pokebeach.com/#new-pokemon-game-new-pokemon-5th-generation

Seems very likely that this is just the third version of D/P rather than a true sequel.  But who knows



Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Kishmond on April 17, 2008, 01:21:00 pm
Third version? What was the second?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Tesla on April 17, 2008, 01:58:30 pm
The two versions, Diamond and Pearl?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 17, 2008, 05:24:32 pm
stuff

What about Pokemon Ranger or Mystery Dungeon? I wouldn't accuse them of not trying anything new, but if you want to see their main series break the monotony I can understand a bit.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 18, 2008, 03:06:21 am
I dunno... never played those spinoffs. >_>

And theres a difference between trying something different and trying something *too* different. The games still need to preserve the core 'gotta catch 'em all' dynamic.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Yannick on April 18, 2008, 09:58:47 am
pokemon ranger didn't have that core, and PMD was more like, Gotta Recruit em all.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: gec05 on April 19, 2008, 12:49:58 pm
Well what I figured from the developers concern is that ideally you would rather keep the pokemon you raised being that it's such a long term task for a game. They become so personalized that it becomes difficult to let go, something that if you want to replay the story you'd be forced to erase your previous progress. So they might have purposely made the story not as engaging so that you are not motivated to play through it again so that you will stick with your current progress with your Pokemon.

So what will it be? Good story worth erasing your current file or keep your awesome Pokemon stats?
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Oberic on May 09, 2008, 06:28:13 am
Well, this hasn't been posted in for a long while, time to start something new.

Obtained Shinies: 29
Fully trained level 50 Pokémon: 108
Fully trained level 100 Pokémon: 33 (34 tommorow)

Longest Pokéradar chain: 55 Phanpy
Battle tower single battle streak: 39

Pokémon defeated 32,751 (EV training and power levelling really stack up!)

Score: 101,319 (was worried it would cap at 99,999)
Play time: 999:59 (it stopped rising a couple months ago..)

Still don't have blacksludge or dragon fang. Or all the battle tower items.

C'mon, you know you wanna post mess like this too!
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Subject of the new version of this generation and the next generation:

1. Don't take stuff out, improve stuff and add stuff. Underground is nice, but it needs more stuff, like rugs, posters, different walls and floors.

2.a And I would like to be able to customize things like mine and my pokémon's appearance.

2.b If the pokémon are going to be sprites in the next one, please let us pick between maybe 3 or 4 or more sprites so we won't have the HORRID sprites for Vulpix and to a lesser degree, Ninetails. That was just cruel.

2.c It would be very nice to be able to add things to your pokémon like the SSBM Pokémon had hats and goggles and ribbons and mess like that!..  8)

3. Put a few Spore creatures from the creation corner in. ;D

4. A LOT more seals. This is needed.

5. Make the attack-spot for low level (and all other) moves slightly higher up, this annoys me, make it the absolute tip top of Piplup's head.

6. Kanto is annoying, and Johto sucks. I don't want to go back, unless we get to go to all the lands. That way G/S pokémon will be in Johto mainly.. Ruby pokémon in Hoenn etc.

7.a Fire got NOTHING at all in Diamond and Pearl. one legendary we aren't even allowed to use in 95% of all battles doesn't quite cut it. More fire, and fire + other. be creative with fire, all but the old ones and starters are slow.
Besides that, it's level 70 minimum, can't breed, but is still male or female, making it weaker.

7.b Bugs need more mixing up too. Maybe toss in a Y branch evolve for bug.
Starts bug (pure), then use a fire stone for fire bug or a water stone for water bug.
Make a SEPERATE bug, or maybe the male/female difference use the other two main stones, leaf and thunder. or something to that effect.

7.c Pokémon demands one thing above all other type combos: A Pure Flying type. I thought Swablu was the one, but NO, it's a bleedin' normal type too.

8. I agree with WinterSnowblind about having a pokémon follow you, just make it double happiness rate, and make it optional. I put that pikachu away out of annoyance before, but I always took it back out.
Hearthome was indeed a slap in the face.

9. Sorry this took so long, I have been awake for a very long time.  Pure terror moment: I cut it short, way short. was going to list the unused type combos.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: /lurk on May 09, 2008, 07:14:04 am
Infernape set a new standard for competitive Fire types. You can't really complain about them getting nothing.
Title: Re: Pokémon: Diamond & Pearl
Post by: Mr. Consideration on May 10, 2008, 06:33:38 am
I think type balance really needs to be sorted out.

Steel and Dragon types are just insanley more powerful than the others. Steel resists pretty much everything. Dragons are pretty damn tough. Then there are types like Poison and Bug, which suck.

Think about the Poison Type. 1 Type Advantage; against Grass, which is also weak to Fire, Flying and Bug. Steel is immune to it, and not a single Poison Pokemon I can think of is good, aside from Gengar. Weak to Ground and Psychic; some of the most common attacks.

More good Bugs. Dustox, Mothim, Butterfree, Venomoth and Beautifly are all exactly the same. Crap stats, crap typing, ugly and simply a Butterfly with different wings. The only good bug types I can think of are Heracross, Scizor and Yanmega. 

No more Garchomp or Salamence or whatever. No-one wants to see the same bloody pokemon in every team. Same goes for Blissey.
In recognition of this, the next 600 Stat Pokemon should be an Ice/Steel type, and all BL-ish Pokemon should recieve an evolution, or something to expand the OU tier. Because it's at the stage where me and my friends only ever have UU/NU battles, because we're so damned bored of the same old threats.

More strategic options. It annoys me that if I EV a Garchomp properly, I don't have to think about it's moveset. I just