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Title: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 10:43:35 am
A thread for arguing over things that aren't important but we can still get very angry about

Anything can be debated apart from 1) Politics, 2) Religion

First matter: What is appropriate ketchup etiquette? I for one believe ketchup should only ever be used for dipping, it should never be directly applied to food itself. Furthermore, the only appropriate foods to be dipped are fries, or food that can go with fried. Sandwiches are out of the question.

I hope hear your (completely wrong) opinions on the matter.


Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 10:48:40 am
WHY THE HELL AREN'T YOU  USING THE OLD DEBATE THREADS?

WE ALREADY HAVE FORUM INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS.

Plank is not only wasting precious and limited forum resources, he is doing so on redundant projects. Is Plank the worst user on our forum?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Putspooza on December 08, 2016, 10:50:24 am
No, Plank is the best!
LETS ARGUE ABOUT THAT
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 10:50:31 am
You seem like a "smear ketchup all over his goddamned sandwiches, like an animal" kinda guy, Pat.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 10:50:55 am
Admittedly I have major thoughts on condiment use and their ratios. I can talk about this for a while...

So, for finger foods like sides or chicken, but not self-contained entrees like burgers, condiments are almost always a dipper. For foods that require fork/knife or are otherwise self-contained (burger), you can plop the condiment right on it.

This is a secondary issue though. The real, pressing issue is the ratio of condiment to food. This is by far the most important, contentious issue facing us.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 10:54:13 am
I wish I could say my response was in response to yours, Plank. But I'm just that much of a dork about condiment ratios that I was already writing it. My girlfriend and I can't have this discussion anymore, so you should probably decide if you want to or not. :U
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 10:59:22 am
For starters, I take umbridge that ketchup is an appropriate condiment for a burger for anyone above 12 years old, but we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

I think a reasonable ratio is a 2oz sauce cup of condiment for every 9 nuggets worth of food.

However, this isn't secondary. Applying condiment to food means you get an uneven layer of sauce over your food that doesn't equal out consistently with every bite. You're constantly getting uneven amounts of it - one bite is going to be completely dry and another will have too much sauce. I can't stand for that.

 
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 08, 2016, 11:01:31 am
Why even argue about ketchup when the superior fry dip is mayo?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 11:04:57 am
However, this isn't secondary. Applying condiment to food means you get an uneven layer of sauce over your food that doesn't equal out consistently with every bite. You're constantly getting uneven amounts of it - one bite is going to be completely dry and another will have too much sauce. I can't stand for that.

(http://i.imgur.com/laJo8Jx.gif)

You must come to see me, there is much I can teach you.

The all-important ratio extends to more than just amounts. It also accounts for distribution for exactly the scenarios you've described. And once you've become proficient, you can spread properly and evenly in the same span of time with less mess. Applied to ratio is also the correct packaging to ensure proper-ratio-distribution. Not all bottles and caps are made equal.

You must let me teach you!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 11:07:17 am
Why even argue about ketchup when the superior fry dip is mayo?

Yuk. This post alone made me change my mind stand on Brexit.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 08, 2016, 11:09:37 am
Pretty close to breaking your own rules for this thread there planky.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 11:13:36 am
True, but I am the exception that proves the rule.

Also, from discussion with Pat:

plonk: Well I appreciate that
plonk: but the ratio does not concern me as much as the medium of condiment transfer
plonk: or innapropriate matching of condiment
plonk: for example: sour cream used innaproppriately
plonk: however that is a long form discussion



Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 11:15:56 am
He fails to understand that my ratio, from here on out known as The Golden Ratio, takes into account all things. Container is covered, medium through which the condiment moves from container to food is covered, the amount and duration are covered, and even coverage is (you guessed it) covered.

The Golden Ratio is all you will need. Come to me if you'd like to know more.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 11:17:52 am
PatMan33: perogies are tough
PatMan33: so when I worked at a greek place
PatMan33: let me tell you about perogies
PatMan33: you don't **** with a greek's perogies
PatMan33: they want that **** fried
PatMan33: not boiled
PatMan33: better be stuffed well and have adequate crimping
plonk: look I'm already clenching my fists at that statement



Pat take this seriously or not at all.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 11:34:06 am
Yes, what an interesting topic.

I have read that ketchup contains lycopene, which, according to a study, reduces the risk of "prostate cancer up to 34 per cent" if consumed over twice a week as opposed to never.

Ketchup contains more lycopene than tomatoes themselves. Therefore we can conclude that all tomatoes should be replaced by ketchup, and if you want to live forever, most of your diet, should in fact, consist of ketchup. I would suggest about a 4:1 ratio of ketchup to other food.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 11:41:59 am
W-whoa...

(http://i.imgur.com/Q4zcBZo.jpg)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 11:47:37 am
Wait, Pat, might you disagree with my well-thought out argument? Ah, but you must point out any flaws within it immediately! I assure you I have this issue well researched, and I can in fact quote myself on the fact that "I would suggest about a 4:1 ratio of ketchup to other food". My point is therefore irrefutable, as you can see, as I am self-proclaimed expert on ketchup-related issues.

If you want more of my facts on ketchup, you can call me anytime! Glad to help out!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 11:57:39 am
The wise man smiled. "The dish you seek is tomato soup," he said.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 08, 2016, 11:58:35 am
Rabble rabble!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 08, 2016, 12:36:21 pm
Why even argue about ketchup when the superior fry dip is mayo?

i may be an amerifat but i agree with you 100%, also have you tried ranch? (amerifat)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 12:40:49 pm
But does mayo have anti-cancer properties? I think not!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 08, 2016, 12:47:55 pm
 what do you have against the  cancer zodiac
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 12:49:41 pm
I am, in fact, cancer.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 12:52:25 pm
If you want more of my facts on ketchup, you can call me anytime! Glad to help out!

Dinner then? Great!

I am, in fact, cancer.

So yeah, dinner, right?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 12:55:45 pm
Dinner with cancer can never go wrong.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 01:05:08 pm
Did you know that when I was conceived, my father had cancer? And when I came out, he no longer did?

I am, in fact, cancer.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 01:14:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/0O3wIDZ.gif)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on December 08, 2016, 01:19:52 pm
The war on cancer is now taking on a whole new meaning for me...
Title: Ketchup Facts
Post by: Tesla on December 08, 2016, 01:39:23 pm
did you know ketchup was around before tomatoes (in the old world) and that the notion of "ketchup is just tomato stuff" is a recent thing? ketchup used to be a kind of gross fish paste
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 08, 2016, 01:41:22 pm
Why even argue about ketchup when the superior fry dip is mayo?

i may be an amerifat but i agree with you 100%, also have you tried ranch? (amerifat)

Perhaps it can be mixed with French dressing to create "Franch".
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 01:42:36 pm
Props to Worcestershire sauce.

Also props to me for knowing how to spell "Worcestershire".

I'm sure you all pronounce "Worcestershire" wrong though.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Rysworld on December 08, 2016, 01:45:53 pm
Are you talking about Wehrstchersher?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 01:47:28 pm
No, I am talking about Worcester Shire Sauce.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Rysworld on December 08, 2016, 01:57:40 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltv4PcWGLiQ
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 08, 2016, 03:06:36 pm
Ketchup should be used for dipping if it's deep-fried stuff like fries. If on the other hand you have pasta or meatballs you should pour the ketchup evenly out directly on top of it, not too much though.

Also, Mayo is white thrash food.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 08, 2016, 03:10:38 pm
>KETCHUP ON PASTA AND MEATBALLS

Title: Re: Ketchup Facts
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 08, 2016, 03:58:11 pm
did you know ketchup was around before tomatoes (in the old world) and that the notion of "ketchup is just tomato stuff" is a recent thing? ketchup used to be a kind of gross fish paste

I think there were also a lot of mushroom ketchups.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2016, 04:30:08 pm
If on the other hand you have pasta or meatballs you should pour the ketchup evenly out directly on top of it, not too much though.

Bitch I'll ****ing kill you.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 01:06:20 am
Ketchup should be used for dipping if it's deep-fried stuff like fries. If on the other hand you have pasta or meatballs you should pour the ketchup evenly out directly on top of it, not too much though.

Also, Mayo is white thrash food.

Holy ****ing ****, dude.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 09, 2016, 03:08:47 am
pasta or meatballs

ketchup

STOP THE THREAD!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 03:10:07 am
This has gone too far. I'm sorry everyone. We weren't ready for this thread yet.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 09, 2016, 04:51:24 am
If on the other hand you have pasta or meatballs you should pour the ketchup evenly out directly on top of it, not too much though.

Bitch I'll ****ing kill you.
Reported.

(http://i.imgur.com/T83pl0R.jpg)

I don't see a problem here. except the Broccoli.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 05:01:11 am
I don't know where to start. There's not a single part of that picture that doesn't fill me with second hand embarrassment. Even the milk in the background.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 09, 2016, 05:42:40 am
AAAAAHHH
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 06:28:02 am
For the sake of integrity of the thread I will detail exactly what is wrong:

- Strike one, pasta is boiled, not fried. It is far too soft and does not have a filling and thus inappropriate for ketchup.
- Most glaringly, even if that was not a serious violation of the ketchup-as-a-dipper rule, that is clearly not enough ketchup for a portion that size.
- Cucumber, whilst also absolutely inappropriate as a combo with ketchup, should never be part of any past combo unless it is explicitly a vegan pasta.
- Macaroni can never go with meatballs. Meatballs can only go with spaghetti, or if none is available then penne is acceptable as a replacement.
- The cucumber portion is FAR too big, especially considering there is already another green vegetable on the plate.
- Even though there is sauce on the pasta, the meatballs are completely dry. This is an oversight.
- Milk? You ****ing kidding me?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Haseri on December 09, 2016, 07:55:57 am
The easiest solution is to bypass all this faff and not use any dips or condiments.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 08:03:50 am
Do you cut the crust off your bread too?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 09, 2016, 08:17:27 am
(http://i.imgur.com/UYpvc6M.jpg)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 09, 2016, 08:53:34 am
(http://i.redditmedia.com/NkzzgHIpi_widLOX5y3NiAB6CURfrLYKqKPHSDTuTNM.png?w=588&s=e4ec719bc98dc84230ff0e9dccc87c91)

if this isn't what you had for thanksgiving, kys
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 09, 2016, 09:09:26 am
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you fuсked it, friend
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 09, 2016, 09:24:54 am
fixed
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 09, 2016, 09:25:46 am
Syria.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 09, 2016, 10:27:31 am
But I hardly know her.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on December 10, 2016, 12:14:06 am
This may be relevant.  Swedes might not know how pasta works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itXjAuUTs2U
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 10, 2016, 01:58:36 am
Sure we do.

You break the pasta before you boil it. Then when served, you cut it up into small pieces, in case it's still alive. This allows you to eat it with just a fork or spoon. Efficiency!
Don't forget to pour a bunch of ketchup on top of it. Goes great with a big glass of milk.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 10, 2016, 02:10:04 am
what the **** is the matter with you guys
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 10, 2016, 07:55:57 am
I mean, just about everything he said is acceptable except for the ketchup.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 10, 2016, 09:08:44 am
Well, no because only a retard would break spaghetti before boiling it and then cut it up.

Cutting up spaghetti makes it HARDER to eat because you can't wind it around the fork. ****ing hell.

Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 10, 2016, 10:43:02 am
Well, no because only a retard would break spaghetti before boiling it and then cut it up.

Cutting up spaghetti makes it HARDER to eat because you can't wind it around the fork. ****ing hell.



Not only that, but they make SMALLER PASTA, like wtf are you breaking and cutting spaghetti for? My inner Italian is raging at this **** haha
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 10, 2016, 10:44:07 am
I had a few aunts that would break spaghetti in half once before cooking it. Not really sure why.

And if you're feeding children, cutting it is a good idea. Also some people just like it that way. Not me though.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 10, 2016, 11:07:11 am
Well breaking the spaghetti is just so it fits in the pot better for the few seconds it takes for the submerged part to soften up and slide into the water. It's just mild laziness I guess.

As for kids, maybe for very young kids but honestly if chinese kindergarteners can learn to eat with chopsticks a 5 year old can learn to wind spaghetti around a fork. Lets give kids some credit. We're making them soft and weak. When the ants arrive from space they're just gonna roll over.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 10, 2016, 12:29:57 pm
Man, I hate spaghetti. I have to cut it up into tiny pieces (done after it's finished cooking) because I hate how messy it is. Really, it goes for any long thin pasta. Also, milk goes with everything. No such thing as a meal that milk doesn't work for.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 10, 2016, 12:43:11 pm
No such thing as a meal that milk doesn't work for.

Milhouse's packed lunch. Check. MATE.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on December 10, 2016, 12:43:32 pm
I prefer something like penne, but I'm not gonna turn pasta down.  Though for me spaghetti has a similar connotation as like, chicken nuggets or something.  Basic, simple, was served it a lot as a kid because picky eaters aren't gonna turn it down. 
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on December 10, 2016, 12:45:22 pm
I'm with Inkling. Prefer more manageable pasta shapes, but won't complain about some spaghetti.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 10, 2016, 12:47:57 pm
I prefer something like penne, but I'm not gonna turn pasta down.  Though for me spaghetti has a similar connotation as like, chicken nuggets or something.  Basic, simple, was served it a lot as a kid because picky eaters aren't gonna turn it down. 

I think the connotation is more with "sketti" than spaghetti. Spaghetti with some lame-ass tomato sauce and maybe cheese grated on it. No real flavour or points of interest.

Spaghetti, like any pasta, is really just what you make it. One of my dinnertime favourites at the moment is spaghetti carbonara. Pretty quick and easy to make and soooooooo good.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 10, 2016, 01:55:49 pm
You can just twirl the spaghetti around your fork. If it is difficult, use a spoon to help keep it all together as you twirl.

I won't tell anyone if you use a spoon. What matters is that you eat. Ratio of sauce/gravy to pasta is also important.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on December 11, 2016, 02:38:33 am
I will tell everyone if you use a spoon, because you are a sick and twisted creature.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 11, 2016, 04:15:22 pm
Aw you gotta let the newbies learn.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 12, 2016, 10:45:51 am
KS you're high as hell, how short is your spaghetti that breaking it in half makes it unreasonably difficult to twirl it around a fork?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 12, 2016, 10:51:16 am
Your spaghetti doesn't come fresh off a spindle?

What are you, one of those barbaric Germans?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 12, 2016, 10:54:10 am
I pluck mine from the tree.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 12, 2016, 10:54:56 am
This guy right here!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 12, 2016, 01:55:16 pm
I pluck mine from the tree.

Pff, spaghetti weevils destroyed all the mature trees in the 70s and there hasn't been enough time passed for a new viable crop, you're probably plucking linguini.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 12, 2016, 04:49:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/p9BABqA.gif)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 12, 2016, 09:33:10 pm
can we focus on cheese stuffed pastas like tortellini, manicotti, chef boyardee
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 12, 2016, 10:03:07 pm
Tortellini are the best ones. Big enough to be filled, small enough to be bite sized, shaped so sauce catches on folds.

Top tier
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 13, 2016, 04:32:56 am
I'm more of a fan of Quentin Tortellini.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 13, 2016, 04:46:33 am
Mozzarella cheese and ham is best Tortellini fillings.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 01:43:39 pm
Alright, here's a thought:


Frying food: Butter, olive oil, or other?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 14, 2016, 01:55:27 pm
i hate butter yuck
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 14, 2016, 02:09:07 pm
Alright, here's a thought:


Frying food: Butter, olive oil, or other?

Depends entirely on what and how much you are attempting to fry.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 03:04:13 pm
Honestly there are very few situations where I do not use olive oil. Butter is only used in absence of all other options.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on December 14, 2016, 03:07:25 pm
I assume we're talking about pan frying.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 14, 2016, 03:08:26 pm
Alright, here's a thought:


Frying food: Butter, olive oil, or other?

Depends entirely on what and how much you are attempting to fry.

Second.

Also sunflower oil is a decent one for frying and cheaper than olive.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 03:23:05 pm
Alright, one pork chop. What do you do?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 14, 2016, 03:27:45 pm
The expense is the main issue with the olive oil, just for point of clarification. Sunflower/Cottonseed/Vegetable oil all work as well with less cost.

One pork chop? Heat up the pan, do a swirl of olive oil (sometimes butter just as a personal preference), maybe a little salt and pepper and sear up those outsides. Then put the pan in the oven to finish it.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 03:30:22 pm
Thought there would be more butter heathens around. Shame.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 14, 2016, 03:31:16 pm
Butter is my go-to, but most of the people around me aren't on board.

A steak isn't at its peak without a pad of butter melting on top.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 14, 2016, 04:07:12 pm
I'm pro-butter
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 14, 2016, 04:08:07 pm
boo you suck
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 04:21:09 pm
I'm pro-butter

tell us why so I can explain why you're wrong
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 14, 2016, 04:23:16 pm
I bet hes anti scub
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: /lurk on December 14, 2016, 04:30:58 pm
What kind of freakshow fries their porkchops. That's grill material.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 14, 2016, 04:32:02 pm
You some sort of joker? A pork chop is a great substitute for sausages in a fry up breakfast.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 14, 2016, 04:38:31 pm
Biscuits are the best.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 14, 2016, 04:45:51 pm
butter is the best, i love the flavor of some butter fried anything.

any other oil is too oily.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 14, 2016, 04:53:16 pm
The only thing I ever really fry is grilled cheese sandwiches and those require butter.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 14, 2016, 06:57:27 pm
I'm pro-butter

tell us why so I can explain why you're wrong

butter yum yum
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 15, 2016, 01:29:17 am
I'm a non-partisan in this whole lipids V oils situation, but I'm zealously anti-porkchop.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 15, 2016, 07:09:51 am
It all depends on what you are frying.

If it's egg and potatoes with onion then butter is fine, it even adds some extra flavor to it. However, if it's something a bit more high quality like a steak, oil or a butter-oil mix is better.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 15, 2016, 07:23:38 am
Shout out to lard. Real lard is awesome.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2016, 10:36:24 am
I'm a non-partisan in this whole lipids V oils situation, but I'm zealously anti-porkchop.

Yolk's on you, idiot. Oils ARE lipids.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 15, 2016, 10:40:05 am
I'm a non-partisan in this whole lipids V oils situation, but I'm zealously anti-porkchop.

Yolk's on you, idiot. Oils ARE lipids.

Good point raised. What to fry eggs with?

I say olive oil.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2016, 10:42:00 am
I fry eggs in butter OR bacon grease if I happen to be frying up some bacon first. Bacon goes on a plate in a warmed oven while the eggs cook to keep it warm and crispy.

P.S: Streaky bacon best, back bacon 100% **** tier disgusting garbage.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 15, 2016, 10:44:14 am
I fry eggs in butter OR bacon grease if I happen to be frying up some bacon first. Bacon goes on a plate in a warmed oven while the eggs cook to keep it warm and crispy.

I feel that the butter or bacon grease is not enough to keep eggs from sticking to the plate.


P.S: Streaky bacon best, back bacon 100% **** tier disgusting garbage.

100% Agree.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: /lurk on December 15, 2016, 10:45:50 am
The only thing I ever really fry is grilled cheese sandwiches and those require butter.

(I) fry... grilled cheese

Suspicious.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2016, 10:46:38 am
I fry eggs in butter OR bacon grease if I happen to be frying up some bacon first. Bacon goes on a plate in a warmed oven while the eggs cook to keep it warm and crispy.

I feel that the butter or bacon grease is not enough to keep eggs from sticking to the plate.


Non-stick frying pan and also don't use too much heat.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 15, 2016, 11:04:42 am
I fry eggs in butter OR bacon grease if I happen to be frying up some bacon first. Bacon goes on a plate in a warmed oven while the eggs cook to keep it warm and crispy.

I feel that the butter or bacon grease is not enough to keep eggs from sticking to the plate.


Non-stick frying pan and also don't use too much heat.

1) Ok
2) Nah
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2016, 11:30:47 am
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on December 15, 2016, 01:05:20 pm
All fried eggs should have a nice crunchy golden brown surface. You usually have to use a lot of butter/oil to achieve it though.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Brandonazz on December 15, 2016, 01:42:47 pm
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

>not using brownness as a rule of thumb for sufficiently cooked food
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 15, 2016, 01:45:49 pm
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

So you like your eggs slippery, like seafood?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2016, 01:54:42 pm
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

>not using brownness as a rule of thumb for sufficiently cooked food

That works fine for bread, meat and the like. Not eggs.

Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

So you like your eggs slippery, like seafood?

Firm and a little crispy around the edges. Scrambled eggs should still be a little runny when you turn off the heat as the latent heat of the pan finishes cooking them. So many people overcook crambled eggs into a gross, rubbery mass.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 15, 2016, 02:54:56 pm
Firm and a little crispy around the edges. Scrambled eggs should still be a little runny when you turn off the heat as the latent heat of the pan finishes cooking them. So many people overcook crambled eggs into a gross, rubbery mass.

It's insane how many people do this. I pride myself on perfect egg scrambling timing for maximum fluffiness.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Rysworld on December 15, 2016, 03:20:15 pm
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

I am a fan of both this and a good sunny-side-up/faux-sunny-side-up* egg. Sometimes you want something FRIED fried, sometimes you don't.

I think a lot of people screw up scrambled eggs because they cook them too hot. Some will just up and use the same heat for fried eggs and scrambled. Madness. Also, adding some milk never hurts.

*I don't know what you call it when you make a sunny side up egg but you put water in the pan and steam it with the lid closed
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 15, 2016, 03:26:45 pm

*I don't know what you call it when you make a sunny side up egg but you put water in the pan and steam it with the lid closed

what the **** is wrong with you
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 16, 2016, 12:42:06 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP7U5vTMM0
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 16, 2016, 01:02:56 am
I'm a non-partisan in this whole lipids V oils situation, but I'm zealously anti-porkchop.

Yolk's on you, idiot. Oils ARE lipids.

Oils V fats whoops.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 16, 2016, 01:13:41 am
Oh are you one of those dumbos who likes fried eggs to be a mess of weird crunchy brown bubbles?

Also, adding some milk never hurts.

Yes it does. It just makes things congeal and curdle. Don't need the milk. Maybe add some cheese after you've taken it off the heat if you want the dairy fix.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Gungnir on December 16, 2016, 05:07:28 am
Sunny side up eggs or bust.

As far as scrambling goes, if I absolutely must scramble eggs, I use medium heat. Crack the eggs into the frying pan, stir and cook them there with a bit of butter. Keep everything moving until I hit desired consistency (which isn't actual my desired consistency, since I never desire scrambled eggs, so really it's whatever the person I'm making eggs for wants. Actually they can make their own darn eggs grumblegrumble.)


Regarding bacon, there's a market nearby that sells Hungarian Mangalica (wooly pig) bacon. Delicious, but my cholesterol probably can't handle it.

Really my breakfasts consist of several scoops of Huel in milk, with a banana. Eggs and bacon are for when I'm feeling like a gourmet.


Shout out to lard. Real lard is awesome.

The Christmas market in Krakow has vendors who sell lard on bread. Optional addition toppings such as pickles or sausage. Pure lardbread is amazing, though.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 16, 2016, 06:14:55 am
I never heard about the Hungarian bacon, need to try it next time I'm out there.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 16, 2016, 08:48:49 am
As a point of safety, there is good lard and bad lard. The old fashioned stuff our grandparents used was the good kind. Nowadays there's all this goofy lard-like byproducts that behave and look like lard, but are significantly less healthy than the real stuff. Not to imply any part of lard is healthy, but there's a better way and a worse way. :P
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 16, 2016, 01:15:58 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5774X2wQ9To
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Legodragonxp on December 16, 2016, 01:21:23 pm
Scrambled eggs. Break eggs in to a bowl, whisk with a splash of milk, pour in to non-stick pan. Turn on heat to low (20-25%) and cross pan, moving eggs off of the center heated area to allow the liquid eggs to flow in to get cooked. As clumps begin to form, flip wet bits as needed to cook away the goo.

-Lego
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Gauphastus on December 16, 2016, 01:31:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/74Q2UfS.jpg)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on December 16, 2016, 03:07:45 pm
I was making omelettes for a while, now I chop up sausage, cook it in the pan for a while, then pour in whisked eggs to scramble with the sausage and grease that cooked out.  Add cheese at the end.  Eat with the biscuits that were baking while the sausage and eggs were cooking.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 16, 2016, 04:22:09 pm
who the hell is frying a steak?

Who the hell is frying eggs in olive oil, do you like olivy eggs?! Butter or bust

Butter is the only decent fat. The other fats are used when no butter is present.

Shoutout to ghee and lard as pre-butter butter so obviously they're better but more expensive.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2016, 12:54:51 pm
rank the Friends from worst to best.

Ross
Pheobie
Monica
Rachel
Joey
Chandler


fight me
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 19, 2016, 12:59:24 pm
Rachel is far and away the worst friend.

Rachel


Ross

Monica
Phoeobie
Joey
Chandler
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 19, 2016, 01:00:17 pm
Joey was never funny and the worst,best was Ross
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 19, 2016, 02:12:03 pm
Joey doesn't need to be funny,(he is), he's an actual good person with good intentions thus putting him well above the other friends
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 19, 2016, 02:27:56 pm
rank the Friends from worst to best.

Ross
Pheobie
Monica
Rachel
Joey
Chandler


fight me

Ross is best friend, Joey is one of the worst, Monica before Rachel
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Gauphastus on December 19, 2016, 02:31:15 pm
i hardly ever saw that show but i always liked joey
hes a dumbass but seemed like a nice dude

what is matt leblanc up to these days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0tbva8Q1KQ
oh
huh

eh
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2016, 03:11:44 pm
Joey doesn't need to be funny,(he is), he's an actual good person with good intentions thus putting him well above the other friends

Yeah that's my thoughts on Joey. I'm immediately suspicious of anyone who puts Ross ahead of Joey. Matt LeBlanc is also the best new Top Gear friend.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 19, 2016, 03:31:01 pm
rank the Friends from worst to best.

Ross
Pheobie
Monica
Rachel
Joey
Chandler


fight me

Ross is best friend, Joey is one of the worst, Monica before Rachel

Psh, try again dork.

Rachel
Ross
Phoebe
Monica
Joey
Chandler
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on December 19, 2016, 03:48:16 pm
I approve of Sam's order.

Rachel's the worst, unequivocally just a selfish, awful woman who doesn't deserve half then love she seems to get. Plus Jennifer Aniston is overrated and seems to have huge personal issues since she can't keep a man longer than a fat guy has a gym membership.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 19, 2016, 03:51:54 pm
Clearly, the ugly, naked guy is the best.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2016, 04:28:35 pm
I would crush Rachel, Monica, and Phoebe like an vengeful god. The others need not apply.

Joey can come by later for a bowl and some Mario Kart.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on December 19, 2016, 05:08:35 pm
I'll go to a museum with Ross
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2016, 05:32:47 pm
I'd go to a dumpster with Ross and put him in it.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 19, 2016, 05:37:17 pm
You're all wrong, Friends sucks, Seinfeld is funnier and actually acknowledges that the main characters all suck
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2016, 05:45:22 pm
Slinky has no opinion so he tries to change the topic.

He's a total Chandler.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on December 19, 2016, 05:46:15 pm
hes clearly Joey
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2016, 05:49:46 pm
We like Joey.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 19, 2016, 05:57:37 pm
Seinfeld is just a terrible Always Sunny anyway.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2016, 05:58:16 pm
They're all just lame compared to Curb your Development.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 19, 2016, 06:26:03 pm
I'm just gonna leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-wfmVbS4UE
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on December 19, 2016, 07:31:29 pm
Never had any interest in Friends.  My oldest cousin was waaay into it, so by association it was a lame show for teenage/college girls.

I'm not big on sitcoms in general because it so often boils down to the character(s) end up in a horribly awkward or embarrassing situation and we all laugh at them.  Pretty sure it was Kenan and Kel that ruined me on the format.

LeBlanc seems like a cool dude.  No idea what the rest are up to.  Aniston was in those Horrible Bosses movies that I didn't see.

Sorry Ovi, the audio delay on that makes it unwatchable.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2016, 07:32:37 pm
Aniston was in those Horrible Bosses movies that I didn't see.

You literally only need to see her scenes where she is moaning and writing around. Also Charlie Day's scenes.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on December 20, 2016, 05:18:17 am
(http://data.whicdn.com/images/182585715/large.jpg)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on December 20, 2016, 07:30:09 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Tymoa0H.jpg)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on December 20, 2016, 01:10:03 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd56QiKywQ8
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on December 20, 2016, 04:38:26 pm
Sorry Ovi, the audio delay on that makes it unwatchable.

Yes, that's what makes it unwatchable. :P
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 13, 2017, 06:38:53 am
should fish and chips be eaten by hand or with a fork
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2017, 08:27:18 am
Depends on the weather, mostly.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 13, 2017, 08:31:31 am
Depends on whether you're the sort of orangutan who eats food like a 4 four old, more like.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on January 13, 2017, 09:17:26 am
should fish and chips be eaten by hand or with a fork

With your mouth preferably
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on January 13, 2017, 09:41:43 am
Hands
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on January 13, 2017, 09:44:51 am
Chopsticks
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2017, 10:40:12 am
Chopsticks

Agree.

Chopsticks are my preferred implement as well, aside from just using my hands. I've got a little container with a few sets that I use on the reg.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 13, 2017, 10:50:23 am
While chopsticks offend my sensibilities, they are better than hands.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 13, 2017, 10:59:41 am
Nah sometimes hands are the best choice.

Depends on the food and the weather.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 13, 2017, 12:16:46 pm
For fish and chips? Hands are the wrong choice.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2017, 03:07:35 pm
Got a couple of weebs in this thread. Mr X will pay handsomely for these specimens.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Gauphastus on January 13, 2017, 03:08:25 pm
is he hot
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2017, 03:09:43 pm
(he's you Gauph. Obviously he's you. Now, I have you your weebs, when am I gonna get my money?)
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Tesla on January 13, 2017, 03:10:53 pm
is he hot

he's you Gauph.

ye
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Gauphastus on January 13, 2017, 03:32:33 pm
i dont handle the money just the webabos
go talk to celdur about the money the passcode is go talk to celdur about the money the passcode

also this is between you and me sam so nobody else read this
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2017, 03:46:04 pm
These are quality weebos Gauph. One of them even has a Japanese waifu and speaks japanese. Be careful, the hit is much more powerful then what you're used to from the usual anime club dregs.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Pixxel on January 13, 2017, 04:06:54 pm
uguu-! :3
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 23, 2017, 08:23:55 am
Plank, I live with someone that cuts filled-doughnuts in half because they only want half. I think this person should just eat another doughnut, rather than trying to cut a thin sleeve packed with filling.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 23, 2017, 11:59:05 am
I can understand why you'd cut a donut in half to put on butter or jam or some kind of spread, but if you're piercing an already filled donut's phospholipid bilayer you're making a fool of yourself and down that road lies tragedy.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on January 23, 2017, 12:08:39 pm
Donuts don't need to cut in half to add butter or jam, they're pure sugar already.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: eropS on January 23, 2017, 05:37:08 pm
How does cutting that doughnut in half usually turn out for them? I'm imagining one half with almost no filling, a third of the filling now on the surface that was holding the doughnut, and the other third in the other half
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 23, 2017, 08:57:26 pm
Pretty much what you described. Guess which part they leave behind.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on January 31, 2017, 05:02:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av8A_aqadd8

Remember when Grep was good back before Jon left?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Plank of Wood on January 31, 2017, 06:12:51 pm
*something weird happens ingame*
HAHA WHEEEEZE


there, made a gamegrumps episode for ya
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on February 03, 2017, 08:31:48 pm
yeah its fun to watch tho
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2017, 05:36:09 am
Milk in scrambled eggs?

No/Hell no
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 07:38:01 am
Only if you're making French toast.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2017, 08:04:28 am
Well if you're mking french toast it ain't scrambled eggs.

I'm not objecting to milk with eggs in a variety of other culinary applications.

Just never ever in scrambled eggs.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 08:20:41 am
Unless you're making French toast.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on February 12, 2017, 08:34:01 am
Pat, you should stop having Trump avatars, you're starting to even sound like him.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 08:40:42 am
So now we have two knuckle-dragging retards. Okay, I'll make it simple.

You're making French toast? Guess what, you're making scrambled eggs up until the "cook it in a pan" part of that recipe. Then you add milk to the scrambled eggs, then you make French toast.


**EDIT**
Also this isn't a Trump avatar. It's my Barron avatar evolved to Stage 3. I was pretty shocked when it happened, too. I thought they only went up to Stage 2. But evidently this isn't even Barron's final form!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2017, 09:00:22 am
Ok, next time I make chili I'll just remember that I'm making lasagna up until the point that I would normally layer the sauce with pasta and cheese and instead I'm adding spices and beans.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 09:09:54 am
Yes exactly!

As a sidenote, this is how my brain works. Maybe yours works differently?

Those shortcuts are the only way I make it through the day, otherwise I can't remember all the stuff. I break everything down into the simplest parts and learn those, then combine them again to create the whole. Otherwise it is usually too much to conceptualize all at once.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Ultimatum on February 12, 2017, 09:12:18 am
Hell no to eggs
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Haseri on February 12, 2017, 09:23:48 am
How do you make scrambled eggs then KS?
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on February 12, 2017, 09:55:39 am
The secret is scrambling the eggs inside the shells.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2017, 09:57:01 am
Heat up frying pan with butter (or use grease from bacon you just cooked in the pan) over a medium heat, break eggs into receptacle and beat with fork. Tip egg into pan, wait for a skin of cooked egg to build up on the bottom of the pan and stir it up so it doesn't overcook on the bottom. Repeat process, keeping heat on the low side. Turn off heat entirely while some of the egg is still undercooked to allow the latent heat in the pan to finish the job.

The reason people's scrambled eggs come out like little lumps of rubbery **** is because they overcook them, not because they need milk to somehow magically make them not terrible. In my experience all milk accomplishes is making a soggy, curdled mess. Butter is good, add cheese at the end if you like. No need for milk.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Slinky on February 12, 2017, 10:03:05 am
No no Sam, I completely agree with you about people overcooking them - you need to turn the flame off while they're still a bit runny and let the residual heat finish them off to make them fluffy and not disgusting dick-eggs, but cracking the eggs and scrambling them in a separate receptacle is a waste of time and makes you wash an extra dish.

Just break the eggs into the pan while it's on the flame, break them up and scramble them as they congeal, and push them all towards the center repeatedly so they don't form a skin on the sides of the pan. Makes em taste the freshest.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 12, 2017, 10:11:31 am
Hey I've got a question.  Do british people always serve scrambled eggs on toast?  Whenever I've seen a brit cook scrambled eggs, they put them on toast.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 10:16:03 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUP7U5vTMM0

Sam, I like your suggestion to use bacon grease; however, it is worth noting that most bacon grease is not the good kind of fat, unless it is reasonably fresh pork with no hormones. Unless you have that, you should stick with using a safer fat like butter.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 12, 2017, 10:29:41 am
Admittedly, that video and this one are the only times I've seen brits cook eggs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9r-CxnCXkg
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 10:43:46 am
Pretty sure Gordon Ramsay's video is why everyone on the internet is a snob about scrambled eggs now.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 12, 2017, 11:04:06 am
Confession time.  I put a splash of milk in scrambled eggs when I'm mixing them up.  It's how my parents make scrambled eggs, I just copied them.  Don't know why I do it beyond that.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Rysworld on February 12, 2017, 11:40:45 am
Yeah I don't really know what Sam's talking about with curdling. I've never noticed that when I put milk in scrambled eggs. They just come out creamier and slightly lighter-coloured.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Oviraptor on February 12, 2017, 01:16:13 pm
I don't like scrambled eggs.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Haseri on February 12, 2017, 03:14:24 pm
If anything it's only curdled mush if it's got too much milk, or it's not hot enough.

But I've not made scrambled eggs in a while.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 12, 2017, 11:06:39 pm
Congealed chicken.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on February 14, 2017, 10:09:00 am
Thanks for the idea, Sam. I've been cooking more eggs recently, so I must try this fancy idea of "adding in milk". Let's see how it goes!
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Great Distance on February 14, 2017, 10:17:14 am
Tried it! A little bit worse than usual, I would say. The taste is more bland and the feel more soggy.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 14, 2017, 10:33:53 am
>10:09:00 am

>10:17:14 am

Checks out.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 14, 2017, 12:07:30 pm
Tried it! A little bit worse than usual, I would say. The taste is more bland and the feel more soggy.

Congrats on the science. Feels good to be proved right but you're right to question what you're told.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 14, 2017, 09:12:54 pm
There's a guy on BBC World News, Aaron Heslehurst. He does the business segment and is pretty goofy. I like him.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: Inkling on February 14, 2017, 09:21:38 pm
Similar to Ky on NPR's marketplace?  He doesn't have the standard NPR voice, and you can tell he's having fun and loves the job.
Title: Re: Wholesome-yet-passionate Debate Thread
Post by: PatMan33 on February 14, 2017, 09:25:29 pm
He mocks the production crew on live television when they do a poor job, it's great. :D