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Title: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Kishmond on November 28, 2014, 10:47:20 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erLk59H86ww

Thought I'd just pop in to say that this looks awesome.

You can definitely tell it was directed by J.J. Abrams. (Not a bad thing.)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on November 28, 2014, 11:41:03 am
Yeah this looks so cool. No complaints at all.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: martyk on November 28, 2014, 05:43:00 pm
Dat saber though
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on November 28, 2014, 06:51:41 pm
No more words from you. It's fine. It's practical it's fine it's fine it's fine.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on November 28, 2014, 08:07:33 pm
You look like a matte painting.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2014, 03:35:42 am
Impossible to tell quality of movie from trailer. Might as well pretend the trailer doesn't exist and just keep basing our assumptions on other information.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on November 30, 2014, 12:28:42 pm
The TIE fighters clipping the audio at the end was hilarious.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on November 30, 2014, 02:56:01 pm
Hey this was neat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEdgPFoBjY
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on December 01, 2014, 03:13:38 pm
That saber is useless

If he tries to parry as intended, the opposing saber will just cut through the handle rather than be stopped by the light blade.

Idk man, idk.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 01, 2014, 04:22:24 pm
Why does everyone have problems with the saber? It looks really cool, and it's just a movie for fun. Plus it could just be vents for the saber which looks like it was makeshift based on the blade.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Kishmond on December 01, 2014, 05:52:21 pm
There are also such things as lightsaber-resistant metals.
Rule of Cool trumps everything though.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 01, 2014, 05:55:31 pm
I think the problem with the lightsaber is that the addition of the guard thingies seems unnecessary considering the nature of the Force and how Jedi and Sith generally fight. Seems more like a vanity thing. And if it is, cool! That'd be a neat twist.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 01, 2014, 06:26:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJgLa3eKMYs
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 02, 2014, 03:03:43 am
It looks really cool, and it's just a movie for fun. Plus it could just be vents for the saber which looks like it was makeshift based on the blade.

Slinky YOU FOOL. Quickly, get to the escape pods, we don't have much time before they arrive.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 02, 2014, 02:56:53 pm
(http://cdn.memepix.com/images/large/zIEnc.gif)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on December 02, 2014, 07:35:05 pm
Welp.

Colbert schooled me.

Neat lightsaber.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: /lurk on December 03, 2014, 08:12:08 am
Fun is a buzzword.

That lightsaber is even dumber than the double bladed one. It's like they said "how can we one-up the two lightsabers stuck together?" and the legitimate, serious, best answer they could come up with was THREE lightsabers stuck together.


IT'S GOING TO BE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 03, 2014, 02:47:08 pm
chill the **** out it's funnnnn
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on December 03, 2014, 03:21:37 pm
Fun
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 03, 2014, 03:25:56 pm
If they want to make it about lightsabers again they should spend their time talking about different techniques and crap like that. They could show how different schools fight and it could be neat. A bit more nuanced.

Anyway I am still skeptical because the goddamn Skywalkers are in the movie. If they have a small role I will be happy.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 03, 2014, 04:23:16 pm
it better be fujn
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 03, 2014, 08:16:19 pm
I read a bit of speculation about the lightsaber.  Or maybe it was just me and Neo making things up.  Anyway, the idea was that the the saber is actually supposed to be a bit crap.  Notice how much the blades flicker and flare, probably more than could be explained by the snow.  One idea was that it's an ancient lightsaber with a design that fell out of style.  Another ties into the whole Force Awakens thing.  This guy came into the Dark Side on his own and has no formal training or mentor, maybe just some lore he dug up.  So his saber looks like that because he doesn't really know what he's doing, only that it looks cool.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 03, 2014, 10:41:59 pm
And the most important thing to remember is that this trailer is the very definition of a teaser trailer.  A few brief glimpses that tell us nothing and get us all worked up.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 03, 2014, 11:43:00 pm
ChiToes' jimmies are rustled so hard right now.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 04, 2014, 01:20:34 am
Just stop talking about it. Jesus Christ, you people are so god damn predictable.

Don't you see that the exact reason they put the lightsaber in the teaser was to make all the nerdlingers argue about it, thus ensuring the film gets talked about?

You're basically unpaid marketing stooges for Lucasfilm, congrats.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 04, 2014, 05:15:07 am
You're basically unpaid marketing stooges for Lucasfilm, congrats.

After how objectively bad the last three "new" Star Wars movies are, I think fans are entitled to some skepticism.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 04, 2014, 10:47:00 am
Skepticism of a laser sword?

I'm not defending or criticising the actual movie here, I'm just pointing out that all this lightsaber crossguard fanwank is playing right into the hands of the people marketing the movie.

you people are so god damn predictable.
What do you mean you people?

(http://i.imgur.com/UIyC7eo.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 04, 2014, 12:15:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/GV2UfzZ.jpg)

This is why we don't let you Britishfags make movies. :U
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on December 04, 2014, 12:16:46 pm
That doesn't mean it's not worth talking about... especially since i'd imagine some of us have a real interest in seeing this turn out good.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 04, 2014, 12:18:35 pm
YEAH! Erops gets it.

We'll all be united in the future when we've realized that a laser hilt inadvertently destroyed the future. BUT SAM LET IT HAPPEN BY STIFLING FREE SPEECH.

It's so obvious now. Sam was a anti-GG shill the whole time!!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 04, 2014, 02:47:37 pm
If Sam is really Anti-Game Grumps, he is no longer my friend.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 04, 2014, 02:53:28 pm
SO ANTI-GG.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 04, 2014, 04:50:03 pm
I think Sam and I basically agree, he's just cranky.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 04, 2014, 05:05:35 pm
Come on Ink lets go and play in our sensible guy treehouse, where we let girls in because we're not dumb idiots that seize on irrelevant details and obsess over them.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 04, 2014, 05:18:55 pm
I'm sensible.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 04, 2014, 05:58:28 pm
Slinky you are hilarious and adorable.


No.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 04, 2014, 06:07:03 pm
Hey guys can I come in? My name is also Homer.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 04, 2014, 08:30:59 pm
"El Homo"
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 05, 2014, 01:47:24 am
And this is exactly why Chitoes is never allowed in the treehouse.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 08, 2014, 03:59:01 am
The treehouse is my bosom
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 08, 2014, 07:12:50 am
Can I be Danny DeVito?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: martyk on December 08, 2014, 04:45:09 pm
Fun is a buzzword.

That lightsaber is even dumber than the double bladed one. It's like they said "how can we one-up the two lightsabers stuck together?" and the legitimate, serious, best answer they could come up with was THREE lightsabers stuck together.


IT'S GOING TO BE SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mefqseiBPb1rnxq4ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 08, 2014, 08:16:25 pm
Repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 09, 2014, 05:00:34 am
Repeat to yourself it's just a show, I should really just relax.

Every time someone says this I am forced to remind them about how objectively bad the New Trilogy was.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on December 09, 2014, 01:50:19 pm
Pat you're just an elitist who wants "acting" in a movie.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 09, 2014, 02:09:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGGEymAXD7s
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 09, 2014, 07:36:31 pm
wuh-what was that?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on July 11, 2015, 08:00:47 am
BUMP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTNJ51ghzdY
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Person21 on July 12, 2015, 03:02:14 am
New Trilogy

It's an old trilogy now.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on July 12, 2015, 09:59:03 am
Man that Comic-con clip has me excited.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on October 19, 2015, 07:13:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbxmsDFVnE

ayy what's this **** interrupting my football game. :|
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on October 19, 2015, 07:34:28 pm
Mmmmm.  Let the over-analysis begin!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 20, 2015, 02:29:00 am
So since the first teaser we've known there's a bunch of the movie set on some not Tatooine desert planet. But now apparently we get an ice world AND a forest world AND a lava world.

Like they're trying to cram as many of the "iconic" locations from the trilogy into one film as possible. 
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on October 20, 2015, 02:40:45 am
Good to know that Kylo Ren is voiced by Denis Leary voicing a Darth Vader™ Talking Coin Bank.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 20, 2015, 04:17:07 am
"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of compound interest"

"[heavy breathing] A penny saved is a penny earned"

"Crashing this economy... with NO SURVIVORS"
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on October 20, 2015, 05:31:00 am
Mesa so happy at the new trailer!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: /lurk on October 20, 2015, 07:37:03 am
Mmmmm.  Let the over-analysis begin!

Analysis: It's going to be ****.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on October 20, 2015, 08:02:20 am
nah

it's going be ****ing awesome.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 20, 2015, 08:11:47 am
Mmmmm.  Let the over-analysis begin!

Analysis: It's going to be ****.

It's ok the special editions are gonna be awesome.

More windows, more rocks, more musical numbers, more jabbas, more colourful characters filling out EACH AND EVERY SCENE.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on October 20, 2015, 11:26:43 am
Um, because the force awakens.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on October 20, 2015, 01:12:52 pm
i saw someone theorizing that the title "the force awakens" is sort of literal - the huge dearth of sith and jedi in the galaxy has reduced the number of outlets for the force, and in this movie there'll either be some really powerful force use, or a lot of randos inexplicably getting force powers

most likely not true (and uh, avatar did it!) but could be interesting
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on October 20, 2015, 02:28:05 pm
I'm betting its some new wave force users like X-Men styles mutations coming out. (not actual mutations but force powers spontaneously showing themselves across a massive population )
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on October 20, 2015, 02:37:00 pm
I'm more interested in the political situation than the state of the Force.  The likely standings seem to be either the Empire is more or less in charge, it's a stalemate, or the Empire and Rebels/New Republic are both weak and most of the galaxy isn't with either side.  The former and the latter seem the most likely to me.  If the Rebels/New Republic were in charge, I don't think they would be talking about the events of the last movies as half forgotten legends.

On the Force side of things, Awakens implies that it's at least been dormant.  Last we saw in the movies, Luke was the only person left with any training.  And it looks like he's been slacking off this whole time.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on October 20, 2015, 03:03:47 pm
my understanding is that the major antagonist force in this film is "the first order," which is supposed to be some kind of group based on the ideals of the empire

that to me implies the empire is either gone, or much diminished
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on October 20, 2015, 04:56:21 pm
It think the situation is like this,the death of the emperor has created a power vacuum that allowed a whole bunch of sith previously kept in check by the emperor to seize control (I'm thinking parallels with Hitler and his generals,it was suggested that they assassinate him early on in the war,until they realized that it would have  allowed someone more competent to take control)

I think the rebels will realize over the course of the film that blowing up the deathstar was the biggest mistake they could have made because now they are against a group that although  fractured and splintered has nothing to lose and will stop at nothing to defeat them (according the official website that planet in the new poster is weapon capable of taking out a star-system,far worse then a deathstar!


Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on October 20, 2015, 05:23:21 pm
wow thats dumb

edit: the spoiler, not your theory
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on October 20, 2015, 05:24:31 pm
sorry
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Kaizer on October 20, 2015, 05:36:33 pm
kyle katarn better show up at the end of the movie and drop kick kylo ren, or my jimmies will be rustled
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on October 20, 2015, 07:34:26 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2fV7DqdfI8
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on October 20, 2015, 08:42:54 pm
a lot of randos

rando calrissian confirmed
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on October 20, 2015, 09:30:41 pm
There would at least be more cursing and probably more Patton Oswalt.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: /lurk on October 21, 2015, 07:44:46 am
Space Cop is supposed to come out early 2016, right?

We can just compare them.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Gungnir on October 21, 2015, 09:00:51 am
I was really excited when the new trailer came out. Then i saw this lovely article (http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/what-if-the-new-star-wars-sucks-too-1737539377) which reminded me that on average Star Wars has not been a series made of good movies.

So now I'm relaxed again.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on October 21, 2015, 09:32:53 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pn4bTAQWA
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 21, 2015, 11:23:40 am
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17po1z7thgfwzjpg/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on October 21, 2015, 12:14:34 pm
Star Wars has not been a series made of good movies.

Star Wars is not a series of movies at all.  Star Wars was a single 1977 movie.  Everything after the pure butt rebranding of that movie as "A New Hope" has been pure butt.  (fyi, ESB was made before the rebranding.)  The original movie didn't have all that puerile romper room nonsense, like naming characters Grievous, Sidious , Greedo, and Porkins.

go away

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68BrauMLt_0
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on October 21, 2015, 03:21:19 pm
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/Not_Inkling/star%20wars%20its%20true%20all%20of%20it.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Cobra on October 21, 2015, 09:48:57 pm
Also the Leia kissing her brother isn't true

>_>
<_<
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 22, 2015, 12:47:23 am
That's a cultural thing Cobra. If you were a true fan you'd have read the promotional comic they gave out with special branded boxes of Rice Snaps in Spring 1991, which explains that on Tatooine and Alderan it is traditional and acceptable for brothers and sisters to passionately kiss on the mouth.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on October 22, 2015, 09:26:18 am
Shelbyville Manhattan you go home now!!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on October 22, 2015, 09:58:31 am
Oh go eat some root marm!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Ultimatum on November 03, 2015, 09:50:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz-SaMu8k3w

remember
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on November 03, 2015, 08:17:29 pm
Jar Jar is a trained force user.

Did you all read that fan theory from the other time?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on November 03, 2015, 10:52:33 pm
Yarp.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on November 05, 2015, 10:49:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oifhpT0HZ7Q

Mike says Finn is a fish.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on November 05, 2015, 02:40:22 pm
No that wasn't Finn, it was Susan Strong's tribe.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 15, 2015, 09:24:58 pm
Cool. Looked up the spoilers and now I don't need to worry about being spoiled or seeing it earlier than I want to.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: /lurk on December 16, 2015, 02:26:00 am
Your son is the villain and you either kill him or he nukes Boston.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 16, 2015, 08:36:13 pm
Quality.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 16, 2015, 08:43:41 pm
It's the shoes that seal it. 

And I recognize your clickbait link, and will not be opening it.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 16, 2015, 11:28:59 pm
Okay, predictions because I'm going to head over to the theater immediately after work and won't be back on the internet.

Someone is going to be Luke or Leia's kid.  Gotta keep the Skywalker line going.  Even odds on it being Rey, Kylo, or both.  I hope Kylo is some random Vader fanboy, but I bet he ends up being related.
Han will play the role of Obi-Wan from A New Hope.  He'll be the wise elder who informs the new characters of the past, then gets killed off.
BB-8 is a double agent.
Someone says they have a bad feeling about this.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 17, 2015, 12:36:35 am
Ink, we've got company.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 17, 2015, 03:34:10 am
Someone on my feed seems to have casually posted a spoiler, like so casually that it doesn't seem malicious, just really dumb. He doesn't seem aware of what spoilers are?

So yeah I think I may know a big reveal. :(
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 17, 2015, 04:46:27 am
More predictions:

Snoke is old, disfigured, or both. But he's not a gungan.
There will be as little mention of the prequels as possible.
Someone near me in the theater will have horrific bo.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Pixxel on December 17, 2015, 12:57:26 pm
So, after watching this movie the other day.
My current ranking for the movies is 5, 6, 7, 4, 3, 2, 1, with 5 being my favorite.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on December 17, 2015, 06:42:55 pm
so is kylo hans son or not cause i think i accidentally stumbled upon that
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 17, 2015, 08:17:30 pm
Yeah sure.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 17, 2015, 09:25:14 pm
MAJOR SPOILERS

________  _______ ____________  ______________  _______________________ _________ _________ _________  _________ ______________ _______
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It's pretty good. _______________________ ______________________________________________
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Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 17, 2015, 09:36:15 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/zjnYusy.gif)
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: martyk on December 18, 2015, 08:14:34 pm
MAJOR SPOILERS

________  _______ ____________  ______________  _______________________ _________ _________ _________  _________ ______________ _______
_______  __________________________  __________________________________
_______________ _________ __________ __________  ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________   
It's pretty good. _______________________ ______________________________________________
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Can confirm
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 19, 2015, 03:35:45 am
Yeah so I saw it:

Better than the prequels, probably still worse than any of the originals.

Basically a remake of A New Hope. Not really a good thing.

The pacing, sweet jesus. Slow down. SLOW DOWN.

The ****ing Starkiller Base. First of all, seriously? You did it AGAIN? Secondly, a laser that clearly is going slower than light, but also hits several planets 'somewhere' at the same time instantaneously, and also the planets can be seen from where that bar is. And then the rebels just make some faces and move on. Were those planets important, or...?

I did like Kylo Ren, all the acting was great. Was disappointed they didn't do anything wild with the score whatsoever.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 19, 2015, 12:40:11 pm
Hooray, I was looking forward to actual conversation about it.  Contains actual spoilers!

It does play very close to A New Hope,  But I don't blame them for sticking to familiar notes to ease in casual fans and jaded diehards who have been burned in the past.

Yeah, the weapon was weird.  It followed the laws of physics about as well as that Red Matter stuff from some other movie.  But the way I look at it, Kylo specifically and the First Order as a whole are a bunch of Empire fanboys, so of course they emulate the Empire that they idolize.  And I think some scenes that got cut may have explained what got blown up.  Apparently that was the new Republic Senate on a planet other than Coruscant.

Kylo is a whiny bitch, as his grandfather before him.

I'm interested to see how things go with Rey and Finn the Human.  We still don't know Rey's backstory, who lefter on Jakku, who her parents are.  I really hope she's not related to the Skywalkers.  There needs to be some force sensitives left in the galaxy not from that one family.  Finn is particularly interesting to me because he doesn't fit the established archetypes of the series.  He isn't Force sensitive or a politician, a pilot or a smuggler.  He said that he was captured as a child, but I thought I heard Phasma and a general saying something about clones.  He's easily the newest thing introduced to the movies.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 19, 2015, 01:15:28 pm
He said that he was captured as a child, but I thought I heard Phasma and a general saying something about clones.  He's easily the newest thing introduced to the movies.

They say he was captured, yeah. And there's some quick line where they go "we should have just used clones!" or something.

And yeah. I really hope they don't all end up being related and the movies become more "Star Family Fights" than "Star Wars."
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Pixxel on December 19, 2015, 01:24:50 pm


I was a bit worried that Finn would be some shoehorned in character that completely ignores the lore about storm troopers mostly being clones, but I was pleasantly surprised. I ended up liking both Finn and Rey quite a bit, but I wouldn't want them to get romantically involved. I would much more prefer to see Rey go pure Jedi with no partners. It would also be cool if Finn turns out to be force sensitive, then we could get another Kyle Katarn kind of character going.

One thing I didn't like about this movie was that Starkiller base got completely destroyed. I would've liked it to be partially destroyed and become this planet-base floating around in pieces with the core leaking out in space or something.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 19, 2015, 02:21:52 pm
That... That actually sounds really cool.

But then people would just be comparing it to the second death star.  And this way we get to see another location, wherever Snoke is hanging out.  We've got a whole galaxy to play in!  But I guess it could have functioned as a new setting if it was very obvious that things had been repurposed and gravity was all wonky.  ...I don't remember thinking about it until now, but we've never had a low or no gravity scene in Star Wars.  They should do that.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 19, 2015, 03:03:59 pm
Oh yeah so, am I right in understanding that Starkiller Base consumes stars to power its laser? They kind of glossed over it but you could see it sucking up a sun and they said it'd be ready when everything goes dark.

If so, does that mean it goes from system to system? So it has like, a hyperdrive? I actually think that would have looked sweet - a planet with a hyperdrive.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: PatMan33 on December 19, 2015, 05:46:17 pm
From what I understand. The Starkiller has a very large range such that is doesn't generally need to move. But that is supplementary info from newer literature.

Additionally, what was the take on the new Emperor? Where do you think that is going?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on December 19, 2015, 05:59:41 pm
Just found this comment in the Star Wars subreddit movie discussion on this very topic. Obviously this is a very dubious source:

The critic Peter Sciretta apparently asked this very question to a friend as he was leaving the premiere - the head of Lucasfilm's story group was behind him and just said "it moves".
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 20, 2015, 03:56:35 pm
I liked it.

It was good enough that it made the prequels retroactively even worse.

Sure, it wasn't perfect, and the worst bits of the film were definitely the ones where they were just hewing a bit too close to the originals for safety's sake but what are you gonna do, gotta keep everyone happy right?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Brandonazz on December 28, 2015, 08:07:40 pm
I'd give it a 6, maybe 7.

It was painfully predictable, cameos were ham-fisted, and the pacing was all out of sorts. Some things happened so quickly that they made no sense.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 28, 2015, 10:27:45 pm
I saw it again over the weekend with family and I had some further thoughts.

Who was that old guy at the start who gave Poe the map?  He seemed to know Leia and Kylo Ren very well.

And for that matter, I wonder how well known Kylo's history is.

The first time I saw it, it seemed like Kylo and the stun baton stormtrooper were being overly dramatic when they'd yell at Finn the Human for being a traitor whenever they saw him.  But Finn killed a LOT of troopers and other First Order troops, and ruined pretty much everything for them.  He switched from being freaked out over a bloody handprint to killing his former brothers in arms very quickly.  I wonder how he felt about the Order when he was back in sanitation.

I think they mentioned something about the Starkiller base being a hyperdrive weapon, so maybe that explains it being visible from the planet Maz's bar was on.  It wasn't just a giant laser flying through space, it was a massive amount of energy tearing a glowing path through hyperspace.

I see the Snoke is Darth Plageuis (sp) talk all over the place and I hope that's wrong.  I'm hoping that he's from a dark side Force tradition other than the Sith.  That the Sith think they've been so clever with their little secret rule of two thing, but he's been watching them unnoticed for a long time.  Maybe have it parallel to Maz "knowing the Force" but not being a Jedi.  I'm guessing we haven't seen the last of her either.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Flisch on December 30, 2015, 10:44:07 am
I just saw the movie.

What a massive letdown. This thing is what they advertised for months as this year's cinema highlight? The long awaited sequel to a beloved franchise?

And they basically did a retrofit of episode 4-6? It's the same story, except it makes even less sense. The empire was destroyed at the end of 6 but -surprise- they're back? And they have even more resources than before, being able to built an even bigger and deadlier death star? And they recruit their inexhaustable army by adbucting kids? Seriously?

Okay, fine, let's not talk about the story. That was never Star Wars main attraction anyway. What about the atmosphere? Well apart from basically copying 4-6 what else is there? Nothing. The scenery in 1-3 was at least gorgeous. Naboo, in all its facettes, Geonosys and that weird lava planet. Let's not forget Coruscant and Kamino!

7 has... a huge sea of sand on Tattoine some random desert planet and... some trees on Hoth some random snow planet.

Okay I get it, the movie doesn't shine through atmosphere and story... Maybe it's all about the caracters. No Jar-Jar Binks surely means this movie has at least this cut out for it.

But no, most of the characters are unlikable and the rest is kind of bland. Let's quickly run through them:


It is a testament to the writing that the two only likable characters were Chewbacca and BB, the little ball droid. Furthermore it's telling that both didn't have a real speaking role.

I mean, wow. I'm not a Star Wars fanboy, not even remotely. I never really cared that much for the franchise. I watched the movies and took them for what they are, popcorn cinema, nothing deep enough to spend time thinking about after the movie ends. As such I didn't have high expectations.

But wow, after all this hype I feel... I feel swindled.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on December 30, 2015, 06:12:51 pm
Well, that's a different opinion, and I'm glad you shared it.  I think the people who made this knew the kind of expectations and rabid fandom they'd be dealing with, and for better or worse I think that influenced a lot of things about the movie.  I'm not going to do a whole point by point rebuttal because those are silly and it's not like I'm going to change your mind.

I do agree that we could've used some more exotic locations, but I think that goes back to trying to keep the more grounded feel of the originals than the greenscreen everything of the prequels.  I bet we get some more unusual settings in the next one.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said about the characters, but I can see where you're coming from.  Except for Poe, I have no idea what you're talking about there.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 31, 2015, 07:09:18 am
Yeah, the characters are absolutely fine for the sort of story a Star War is. It's pulp space adventure stuff, you want nice archetypes in that sort of story. People in these sorts of stories do good or bad stuff because they're good or bad people, not because of complicated psychological motivations.

Why did Finn the human wig out and start shooting stormtroopers instead of innocent villagers? Because he's a good guy.

Why did Hans Yolo go back to smuggling and then go back to being a hero? Because he's a scoundrel with a heart of gold.

Also your criticisms about Kylo Ren aren't criticisms because that's 100% how the character was intended to be. He's not supposed to be Darth Vader, he's supposed to be a Vader fanboy with anger management issues.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on January 01, 2016, 11:22:10 pm
I liked it

She's either Luke or Hans daughter
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2016, 01:22:54 am
I really hope not.

I don't have much confidence Rey won't turn out to be a close relative of a main character but I reaaaaallly hope not.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: emmet on January 02, 2016, 06:27:46 am
Yeah, wouldn't the ultimate twist be if she wasn't related to anyone?
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on January 02, 2016, 08:31:48 am
I mean, she totally is, so don't count on that haha

Who was the old map guy that was also probably secretly watching over Reyż
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2016, 08:53:37 am
Map guy? Explain.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: eropS on January 02, 2016, 09:23:18 am
the dude Poe gets the map from at the start
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on January 02, 2016, 12:57:39 pm
I was curious about the guy in the village that gave Poe the flash drive, too.  He knew a lot about the main characters and seemed to be important.

I seriously doubt that Rey is related to Han, and I hope she isn't related to Luke.  I agree that it would be great if she wasn't related to anyone, but if I had to guess I'd go with the theory that she's a descendant of Obi wan.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Pixxel on January 02, 2016, 01:09:54 pm
Here's a long shot, maybe Anakin's father screwed around a bunch and had another child somewhere that had a child that had Rey? So, she's still a Skywalker but a distant relative.

Or maybe Snoke is Anakin's father!
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2016, 01:31:02 pm
Anakin didn't have a father he was conceived via midichlorians thus proving beyond a doubt he was the chosen one who brought balance to the force by mercilessly choking a load of incompetent space admirals.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: /lurk on January 02, 2016, 01:47:16 pm
Those admirals already conquered 90% of the galaxy. If they hadn't blown their budget on an easily-exploded superweapon they'd have beaten the rebellion no problem.

"From my point of view it's the Sith who are incompetent!" - Lt. Cmdr. Anakin, Star Trek V: The Phantom Pain
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 03, 2016, 01:55:08 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/uuUrs
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Slinky on January 15, 2016, 11:15:46 pm
OK so I saw this and read through the whole thread. It was fun, a lot of fun! It was exactly what it's supposed to be, an amped-up, goofy sequel to a low-budget goofy 70s B-movie that got weirdly popular. I enjoyed it and my only complaint is that Rey is sort of boring. Everything else was cool.
Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Inkling on January 14, 2017, 01:07:30 pm
I remember hearing about this scene.  Neat to see it, probably good that they cut it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFrY8NFfAQ

Title: Re: Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens
Post by: Oviraptor on January 14, 2017, 09:14:10 pm
While I do agree, it would have given Force Awakens a dismemberment. It's the only movie that lack one.