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Games, Games, and More Games => PC Games => Topic started by: Hammerman58 on August 21, 2009, 07:26:09 pm
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Yay a new wow expansion.
http://kotaku.com/5342829/world-of-warcraft-expands-again-level-cap-to-85-for-cataclysm-%5Bupdated%5D
Screen Shots
http://kotaku.com/5342849/new-screenshots-for-world-of-warcraft-cataclysm/gallery/#
Some details.
http://kotaku.com/5342888/the-big-changes-in-wow-cataclysm-from-spiky-racecars-to-underwater-mounts
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I've begun preparations for when the expansion hits by rerolling alliance so that i can get the boa gear for my worgen.
cant wait it's gunna be awesome
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Maybe you should've linked the main site aswell?
Here it is anyway.
http://www.wow-europe.com/cataclysm/
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I find it funny, Blizzard is showing you what they left out of the original game.
They are just milking the WoW cow.
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miclee thats pretty ridiculous >.>
i mean i dont give a **** about wow but this expansion idea is pretty cool.
its not gonna make me play the game but i like the idea of everything being ripped to shreds >.>
i dont see how its ''showing you what they left out of the original game'' because it wasnt suposed to be ripped to shreds from the start...
seems like you just hate blizzard/wow or something but whatever...(although blizzard isnt perfect >.>)
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a lot of people are hating the new expansion mainly because most of them hate low level players having content. from what i've read on their forums almost all of them hate either the lore/old world gone/making it easier for lowbies or new players to gear up
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I agree, i find levelling in the old world is boring and just tedious as soon as you hit outland it gets better. So by finally giving lowbies content it will let a lot more players get to 80 just because of the fun they have while levelling to 58. That said Flying mounts in Pre TBC is a gankers paradise. and worgens just look amazing, although they should add another class. I dont see where the new start zones are going to be however, unless they actually add in good start zones for Goblins and Worgens in the old world, Or have a lowbie friendly part of Cataclysm (( goblins)) and make Worgens start in Northshire with humans. That might work. another thing im not keen on, Right they add a New secondary profession, but what the hell is its use.
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archeology is probably like mining but instead of ores you get unidentified relics that you can inspect for trinkets/necklaces rare items that have some use
as for the starting zones worgen start in gilneas, you know that big wall in silverpine with all the human refuges?
the goblins start on an island out in the sea
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Ahah, i only skimmed all the information i could find but i guess that could work, and Gilneas is near a level 20 zone so im presuming its going to be like Belfs and 0-20 in Gilneas then bang to either arathi or Southshore or others (( i cant remember which is 20 and which is 30))
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southshore ;)
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Thats the one hehe. Im never in the old world any more ive left it alone for so long, but when cataclysm arrives i May well reroll to have a look at the new content, but i still think gankers will drive every one nuts, unless there is some sort of NPC air force hehe.
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This is just some info.
- The new starting areas will make use of their new terrain phasing tech.
- The story of the Worgens and the Goblins will be even more awesome than the DK starting quests.
- There will be an underwater zone.
- Underwater Mounts
- You'll be able to walk underwater just like on land (probably with the help of some magic and/or heavy boots.)
- The new profession is secondary, meaning it will be like firstaid,cooking and fishing. Huzzah!
- The Goblin racial ability will be some rocket-jump ability.
- Guilds will be able to level, cap is level 20. They will have a talent tree with perks. For example a mass resurrect.
southshore ;)
Southshore will be lost to the horde by the way.
Edit:
Here's a liveblog directly from blizzcon.
http://kotaku.com/5342702/liveblogging-the-world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-panel
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Thanks for the information, then and so Worgen and Goblin start quests are going to be like the DK ones and will they be 55 or 1 start ?
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1. since the start zone is 1-15 ::)
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thanks. Oh and are there any gank protection rules with the new flying mounts in Azeroth thing ?
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Goblins and worgens? Seriously? It seems like there would have been a few better choices.
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Goblins is a good choice. but i still dont quite see why they picked worgens myself
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I was betting on pandarens or furbolgs
with a secondary profession of brewery :P
for pandaria!
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Ye, I want to see Pandarians, but it wouldn't go well in China if that was a playable race, or killable NPCs.
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Pandarians would have been a nice choice. But they have had no coverage what so ever in WOW so far unless ive missed something, so only the Wc3 Wc2 and lore masters will understand where they are from.
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I'd probably say besides the new azeroth and being able to play 2 new classes I'm excited to see how they handle the new gear looks, think they will go with what they did in northrend and make nearly every gear piece look the same except for tier gear?
and what about weapons some of the weapon designs in northrend are badass looking (armageddon) it's gunna be interesting to see what kind of gear we can get decked out in
I would of liked a geomancer/venomancer class but i can wait
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New classes dont you mean races? unless there are 2 new classes aswell. and gear will look better than northrend hopefully, and not as generic hopefully.
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theres no new classes in this xpack i just wish WoW had those two classes
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ah i see hehe, you confused me there. I think they should add a Worgen and goblin specific class, so we have a reason to reroll other than try out new zones.
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well every zone is new in some way so it's like playing a whole different game
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Not every zone, but many. ^^
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Idk think this xpac is going to mess up the lore. It just adds to the future of Azeroth.
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I wonder if they will get this past the Chinese? Right now about 5 million players are offline in China and they still don't have access to the Lich King expansion.
-Lego
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on a lighter note it seems blizzard is bringing back the old dungeons and raids, seeing as next patch (3.2.2) we get to get deep breathed by onyxia once more
For being one who played pre-bc and did these dungeons I love it, you can just smell the nostalgia
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Onyxia was my favorite oldschool raid. Mainly cus it didn't take 6 hours to complete. ^^
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I will probably start up an account when this comes out or possibly before.
I have wanted to for sometime, I have always played on my brothers account for the 5 minutes in the day he wasn't playing, but of course, I never got far.
He canceled the account a long time ago, jumping from Warhammer Online, to various free MMOs and now he's going to Aion. But this EP makes me very interested in getting my own account.
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Onyxia was my favorite oldschool raid. Mainly cus it didn't take 6 hours to complete. ^^
hehe yea I want black wing lair to be redone I will love to see retard hunters stand there during nefarians class calls and their bows insta break :D
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Well they're making a new instance that is based on Blackwing Lair it's going to be called "Blackrock Caverns".
You can read all about it here(Latest news):
http://www.mmo-champion.com/
I will probably start up an account when this comes out or possibly before.
Get an European account and we'll play together :P
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awesome my guild will love the new guild changes since were always pestering each other for professions
if anybody cares when the xpack hits i'll be making a worgen warrior on andorhal named ezroth
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So. I went to Blizzcon and played both new races' starting zones. There's some spoilers so I'll block those out.
Worgen: You start out in the gallows. You're level 6, but dunno if you're gonna start at 6 when the x-pac finally releases. You're given a potion that restores your mind, run around do some quests and fight some forsaken. They look awesome (except the run animation). At one point, you go into the basement of a building and do some quests for the people in there, and at one point the entire building shakes, dust fall from the ceiling, and you fall down. When you go outside, a huge field/portion of land between you and the ocean is COMPLETELY DESTROYED. There's nothing but water and debris there. Wow. Off in the distance you can barely make out some forsaken boats that used to be where the coast was. Then I ran out of time and got kicked off.
Goblin: You start off on a piece of debris off the coast, and are resuscitated by another goblin. You then swim around and save some of your brethren, then go to the coast and do a bunch of quests etc. Eventually you meet up with an orc camp and help them assault some human boats, where you meet none other than THRALL and you save him from a cage. Then he turns you into a tornado and you destroy the fleet. Pretty awesome. A bit later you ride a rocket to another island, and it looks reallllyyy good. Amazing graphics.
One more neat thing: For Blizzcon, the quests gave you bags that had a chance to have a ticket that would earn you a free poster in real life!
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My response you bastard. Ill try to go to Blizzcon next year. I'll be out that way for college.
I wonder if Gnomeregan will finally be freed. The only thing I am disappointed in is that the they added 2 races. I wished for them to make goblins neutral to some extent.
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So how does making a Worgen work?
Do you make a human and the worgen form is random, or do you make the Worgen and the human for is random? Or do you make both?
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So how does making a Worgen work?
Do you make a human and the worgen form is random, or do you make the Worgen and the human for is random? Or do you make both?
Pretty sure you choose both looks. I was in a hurry so I didn't even click randomize, just named and entered the game.
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Im rerolling worgen, and Kaizer you on the european servers because if so ill reroll with you.
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sadly no I play in american servers. It's hard enough raiding on servers 3 hours behind you so that when they say raids at 11pm im actually on at 1am
luckily andorhal is situated in my timezone so rerolling is something i've been meaning to do rather than server change
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Hey new video shows the new zones off and talks a little about Deathwing.
http://kotaku.com/5344010/world-of-warcraft-the-lands-beyond-the-cataclysm
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:D my prayers have been answered nefarian returns :D ;D
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Ok I have heard the name before. Though who exactly is he? I played pre bc but got to 60 a week before the expansion came out. Never did the real raids of Azeroth.
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Nefarian is the older brother of Onyxia and is probably one of the most taxing bosses ever
the entire fight was epic because he had an ability where he would call out a class type and make them do something bad for the raid
IE: hunter bows would insta break
paladins would shield him
warriors would take extra damage
etc
then of course he would zerg you with... what was it 41 bone constructs?
also more awesome news quel serrar and obsidian edged blade my two favorite old world blades are updated for onyxia ;D
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That was back in 40 man raids though Kaizer.
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yea but nefarian is retuning in blackwing descent
every old world raid boss seems to be back but c'thun
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Meh sure kaizer, im not moving to america for gs tho. Anyway im rerolling worgen probably a warrior maybe Hunter if available. And if every old world raid boss is back (except c'thun) it sounds fun.
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I think ill try a worgen, though I've never tried alliance before
of note, the goblin island is already on the map. you just cant click on it or go to it.
and tauren palladins kick ass, but how do dwarves get to be shamans?
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dwarves originally came from the earth so it makes sense they should be able to control it...it also doesnt hurt that the draenai gave them a few pointers
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I still can't get over the word, worgen, backwards.
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(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa115/omega43/fun2.png)
gunna suck that all this work is undone when cataclysm hits
(yea im that cool 2 pieces of tier 8 for diff specs)
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lol you didint change your chars own pic :p
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Oh god you're using the default bars how do you do anything.
You must not PvP, or pallies really ARE that easy.
For example:
(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/1584/wowscrnshot090409085915.jpg)
Also, it looks like you're running windowed mode. If you run Windowed mode Maximized, then you'll have the advantages of fullscreen (takes the full screen) with the advantages of windowed (alt-tabs are instant and the game can still be seen in the background).
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lol Pallys are that easy trust me, i used to play Ret pally then decided to stop being a noob and i re rolled Spriest
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first off, I'm not ret I'm holy, I only play ret when I wanna go pug some heroics w/o having to deal with fail tanks
paladins are EASY MODE ret paladins literally just need 6 buttons to play (crusader strike, divine strike, exorcism, holy wrath, concecrate)
holy paladins are easy as crap too, I basically just put beacon on ot then holy shield on mt and spam flash of light since it gives them a hot that heals for the amount of the flash over 12 seconds (9k flashes do the math)
as for running windowed I like it better my computer has issues minimizing and maximizing the game
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as for running windowed I like it better my computer has issues minimizing and maximizing the game
Yea, but if you check the box that says "maximized" then it'll fill the whole screen, yet it'll still be windowed, so your computer won't have problems switching to another program.
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But doesnt windowed mode reduce frame rates, if your on a middle spec pc. ( eg if you can barely run high)
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I have noticed very little of a performance hit between full-screen and windowed maximized modes.
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You'll notice it if you got like 200 or so add-ons ::)
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I use 4 addons...Am I an outsider then?
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i use about 50-100 noticeable with about 50 more unnoticeable stuff running in background. And it was before i had the pc im on now it ran at like 30 fps on full gfx settings so inw indowed because my pc tried to run that and the rest of my pc as well it slowed it down to like 15 but on my new pc i get like 200-300 fps all round.
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I dont use a single addon! and I play fine
so it looks like hunters are getting the biggest changes, seeing how they wont use mana anymore. guess I need to change my hunters gear.
and im still waiting for a BG that uses flying mounts
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you will never see a bg using flying mounts because then campers can just mount up and fly out of sight
I like what they did with isle of conquest using the airship
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they might allow them if there are no fly zones around the bases and then you can travel the actual map via flying mounts.
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I dont use a single addon! and I play fine
so it looks like hunters are getting the biggest changes, seeing how they wont use mana anymore. guess I need to change my hunters gear.
and im still waiting for a BG that uses flying mounts
If you don't use a single addon, I highly doubt you raid or PvP effectively. Of course, you're a hunter, so that's a given.
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I raid just fine with out add ons. I just listen to everyone else in vent and I just do everything I can to keep aggro.
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a tank without dbm or omen o.o; I'd be scared to raid with you
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I raid just fine with out add ons. I just listen to everyone else in vent and I just do everything I can to keep aggro.
You raid Ulduar/ToC without any sort of addons? You TANK, no less? That's like I can't think of an analogy right now, but I disagree with you.
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That's what vent is for. Most of the time some dps is designated to call it out in vent. My goal is to make sure the big ass monster stays attacking me. Anyhow, haven't played in a while, guilds piss me off. Past 4 are always on the brink of collapsing when I join.
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You dont use omen to raid, either your very bad, or amazingly brilliant. when i leveled my DK alt i tanked dungeons as i leveled and i tanked and i could do it without omen but i could not tank big end raid encounters without Omen atleast, i personally dont like DBM though. ( my main class is Warlock dps affliction)
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Tanking dungeons without Omen as a deathknight is stupidly easy because most classes dont have the starter gear you have or frost presence and death and decay, on my death knight (whom I used to tank black temple) could hold aggro against 80s by a pretty slim margin
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i was talking more leveling in WOTLK zones :p
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Hey man my Pally gets the job done. I easily raid its the OTs that always screw it up.
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pallys suck hammerman, I know because I play one, you will never be the best tank ever or the best dps or healer
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I disagree a guildie of mine was out healing holy priests, So yeah it is possible dude. especially if you have gear and skill.
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I'm one of the best geared on my server and yet my hps cant top druids that dont even have full tier7.5
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in other news, apparently everyone is getting more health
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Healthcare reform!
Err, sorry, I don't know how I got here >_>
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I'm one of the best geared on my server and yet my hps cant top druids that dont even have full tier7.5
Isn't that just because you can heal only 2 targets at a time where a druid is excellent for raid healing.
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druids still beat me to the punch on healing the tanks also because of the long ass casting time of holy light
edit: big question the world of warcraft installer (the thing you get when you download the client online) do i need to keep that installed after i finish installing the game, since it takes up 6 gigs and it doesnt do much for me
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Of course not.
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I heard that Camp Taurajo is being burnt to the ground in Cataclysm, can anyone confirm this?
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they never said anything about that, or at least ive not read anything so its probably BS
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If anything we should just nuke feralas, it's not like anybody goes there anyways
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http://www.wowwiki.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Cataclysm Idk if I like how some stats are being rolled into others.
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I've heard rumors that durotar is getting destroyed and thrall leaves the horde to try and help jaina bring the alliance and horde together, but he leaves garrosh in charge
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Rumors? It's been confirmed.
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Damn, I hate garrosh, least I can get satisfaction of owning his sorry ass once I get my worgen to 85 ;D
on top of that why the hell would he leave garrosh in charge if he wants to bring the two factions together he knows garrosh hates varian
oh but seriously jaina and thrall are gunna totally start going out ::)
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They may already be... (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#107)
<_<
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If anything we should just nuke feralas, it's not like anybody goes there anyways
...I did
and it sucks. they should drown it.
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My sister has a shirt that says " I went to dire maul and survived"
that place will steal your soul
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j_O08tqw2U
"Its frick'n coming ...." *boob giggle* ::)
I don't even play WOW but I found this video amusing.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVknVfIW-z0
It's the end of the world of.....warcraft?
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I recently updated my UI for the coming cataclysm
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa115/omega43/WoWScrnShot_111110_172906.jpg)
it just needs to hurry up and get here so i can make my goblin hunter >.>
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Thats the wrong path to go Goblin Banker is what I am going for.
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in preparation for the cataclysm I decided to have a look back at some of my more interesting statistics
(http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa115/omega43/si.png)
that hit dealt was done in icecrown on bloodqueen ;)
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Yeah, haven't played in 9 months, getting geared up because the wife and both kids want to play. Logging in now looking at all the crap I have accumulated. Gah...
Yes, four accounts in the house.
-Lego
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Kaizer, I want your UI.
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Im ready to go. My profession are ready to cash in on highly valued crap for the first few weeks. Got a good build now im just working on a good aoe tank rotation for my pally, holy power seems annoying though.
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holy power makes holy paladins beasts
we are one of the few classes that cant run out of mana because of our free cast spells
not sure if it works well for prot pallies but i always open fights with a taunt and an instant hit (usually heroic throw) builds enough initial aggro to hold for the rest of the fight
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Aggro is tricky in this one seems dps steals it easier or it could be due to some of the class changes that needs to be worked out. I love the lfg system now when it was first put in it sucked now its good.
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I never bothered with anything that high level or detailed I'm just playing with my girl friend so tanking and aggro are only minor issues. Still everything looks great from what I have played so far.
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Aggro is tricky in this one seems dps steals it easier or it could be due to some of the class changes that needs to be worked out. I love the lfg system now when it was first put in it sucked now its good.
the way tanking works now is that our "tanking stance" generates 200% more threat
IE if we do 3k dps we generate as much threat as a 9k dps player
Our initial threat builds up much faster and any tank in decent gear can pull 3k dps
what allows us to tank reliably is vengeance as it stacks we do more dps I usually can pull around 11k-12k dps in my tank gear on the lichking once vengeance is fully stacked after a few seconds
the only true hard part of tanking now is managing our gear correctly and initial pulls because our snap aggro abilities (thunderclap, shockwave, etc) dont generate the threat tables they used to. of course initial pulls are easily fixed by telling your group count to 3, since in 3 gcd you can get far enough ahead in threat to not have any issues
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Tanking stance for a pally?
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righteous fury
blood presence/righteous fury/defensive stance/bear form
they all function the exact same now
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Allies are a fickle bunch. They are a lot louder, jump around constantly, ask a lot more questions (that can be answered from the games resources), and will kick you from a pug for no goddamn reason exept that the party leader is a child!
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heroics make heroic 25 LK look easy
I've slowly been crawling along gearing better but it's still requiring large co-ordination between me and guildies using vent
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Game's been out for 4 days and you're talking about raiding? I'm only 82!
I am leveling a worgen, though!
This comic is my thoughts on worgen in a nutshell.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/315/1120736466d97cpl.jpg)
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Soooo, yeah...
The die hard City of Heroes guy... has died.
I picked up WoW tonight.
Yes, I said picked up. I have never played it, but have always hated it for slowly killing my MMO of choice.
But, since I'm at lest taking a break from CoH, I thought I would try it.
Am I totally late to the party? (That's a joke)
Since they revamped the world, I figured it would be a good time to jump in.
I'm going to play a Human Warrior if it ever finishes patching.
Any advice for a total noob? :D
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Don't be a human warrior?
Go Horde or Go Home. Tauren is where its at brah.
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I just hit 85 after grinding instances for tank gear. just about ready to start the heroics.
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Sigh, I can't think of a name I like that isn't taken.
I bet most are, but still...
Also, all my RL friends are on alliance.
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Horde > Alliance
Blood Elf > All
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Brandon is a gentleman of taste and distinction. 8)
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*Penny Arcade*
I too was happy when I finally acquired my dapper worgen hat.
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I'm so glad everyone here prefer horde over ally.
but.
belf female > belf male
and I mean that in the sense that belf males shouldn't exist.
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I'm scared to hit 84.
I heard the xp for 85 was 9 million.
Goblin > Belf > All
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Well, it took like all night to patch :P
I've already played some though. The play-before-it's-done-patching is rather cool.
My guy is named Fiink (some lvl 17 has my real name :()
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Brandon is a gentleman of taste and distinction. 8)
See? Sam totally agrees that Blood Elf males are smokin' hot. Thanks for the vote of confidence, Sam.
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bloodelves dont belong on the horde
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Wow its 3 years ago.
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Horde can't all be ugly racial stereotypes. :P
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Fink, what realm do you play on?
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human warrior? are you thinking that for some reason its best to start with something as generic as possible?
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No, you make a female human warrior because the metal armor covers the least at the highest levels. If you are going to spend hours staring at your toon's butt, you might as well make it something semi-worth looking at.
-Lego
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The be a female bloodelf if you want hawt ass.
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Or don't play WoW, and get a lover who agrees to roleplay as a Na'vi.
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Please stop saying toon.
God it makes me mad.
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Fink, what realm do you play on?
IceCrown
human warrior? are you thinking that for some reason its best to start with something as generic as possible?
Yes.
No, not really. I just always play human (I don't know why)
And I like hitting things with a sword.
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Or just be undead hurray for my jawless zombie.
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Or don't play WoW, and get a lover who agrees to roleplay as a Na'vi.
That blue paint gets everywhere.
-Lego
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raiding in cataclysm + people who aren't listening to me explain how to not stand in fire = me slamming head into wall repeatedly for 6 hours straight
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Taking a game to seriously + Short span of patience = Kaizer slamming his head into a wall repeatedly for 6 hours straight
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Taking a game to seriously
not true. people really shouldnt stand in fire.
raiding in cataclysm + people who aren't listening to me explain how to not stand in fire = me slamming head into wall repeatedly for 6 hours straight
yea, its a complex concept, I know. takes a while to understand. luckily, someone made this:
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/1074/fireishot.png)
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So, hunters don't need ammo or mana.
From 80 to 82 I've basically just slapped 1 to 9 on the keyboard and moved the mouse a little.
It's just like one of my mmorpgs
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So, I guess the fire thing is new?
I figured it out rather fast :P
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So, hunters don't need ammo or mana.
From 80 to 82 I've basically just slapped 1 to 9 on the keyboard and moved the mouse a little.
It's just like one of my mmorpgs
In TF2 you basically just wiggle the mouse around and press WASD while left-clicking madly.
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In real life you just respire and run around converting chemical energy into kinetic energy and electrical activity in the brain. HERP DERP.
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God ****ing bugged up the ass this is ridiculous.
I don't want to hit 84, the thought of the massive amount of xp I need to ding again sucks.
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Well, 67% to 85.
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If anybody on any server has a raiding guild that has an open spot for a beast of a tank
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/vashj/failtank/advanced
I need a new home
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I was thinking of starting a character on a rp server just to test that stuff out.
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I'm on Ravenholdt, an rp-pvp server. It's nice, there is some rp if you look for it or start it up. I'm alliance.
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Well Im on a rp-pvp server switched there after being in a random queue and getting 4 guys from one guild on the same server. I always thought there was a lot more rp involved but actually its not. It depends really on the guild for the actual rp. On Venture-Co lvl 85 Dwarf Paladin.
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enough talk about pretending your a character lets talk about the good stuff
ARENA
I'm sitting at 661 rating with my fury warrior/boomkin 2s team we stand at 7-3 those 3 losses being from glitches where my partner couldn't enter the match
it's probably not the best team composition but fury warriors are insane openers in 2s I usually just have my boomkin pal keep the other player cc'd or distracted off of me while I annihilate the other player before he can do anything.
once we get our starter pvp gear from conquest we will move into our 3s team with a shockadin to back us up but I'll still try to do massive openers not sure how well it will work in 3s where a healer is usually on a team
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arena is boring.
abyssal depths is pretty.
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I hate archaeology so much.... I just want my troll sword, is that so much to ask?
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I'm playing this.
Level 84 Draenei pally Ravenholdt server
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Patch 4.2 coming out soon
ragnaros makes his return
and mages get a weapon to kill warriors even easier than ever >.>