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Title: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on May 29, 2009, 08:56:39 pm
The Shadow are the species that I mentioned in the idea for the Flash Cartoon. That's the only reason I am giving them a proper profile.They are Amorphous blobs that are pure evil. They seek to destroy all life, and have unbelievable technology behind them. The reason why is that they were trapped in an alternate dimention for countless aons,being one of the first creatures in the galaxy. This is evident in how physically undeveloped they are. They are called "the Shadow" because they are pich black.One ability they developed is to take complete control of another creature. Due to this, they also developed advanced hypnosis and mind-control technologies. Their form of combat, due to their lack of numbers, is to infiltrate the government of the attacked species, "posessing" or mind controlling high government officials, and weakening the species from the inside. Then, their small number of ultra-powerful ships can annhilate the species. As I stated, they cannot reproduce quickly, and their whole armada consists of only 346 ships. But each ship is very powerful, capible of holding it's own against multiple enemy ships.

Phew! :-\
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Beastosaurus on May 29, 2009, 10:04:01 pm
If they have the natural ability to take complete control of another being, why would they develop hypnosis and mind control tech? How is their underdeveloped form a supporting argument for their being the oldest species in the galaxy? What's a "dimention"?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on May 29, 2009, 10:23:15 pm
Hypnosis and Mind control so that a Shadow doesn't have to be controlling the persons body at all times. And the fact that they are one of the first would be that there wouldn't have been time for hyper-advanced creatures to form. Alot of their advancements came in the other dimention. And a dimention is like, a "alternate universe", I really don't know how to explain it.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on May 30, 2009, 12:19:07 am
How is their underdeveloped form a supporting argument for their being the oldest species in the galaxy?

The ViS are one of the Great Three Ancients and they gained a somewhat amorphous form due to a relatively long time of oversimplification.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: madis on May 30, 2009, 12:26:17 am
Are you sure you dont mean dimension?

And they would need to do a lot of research before controlling anyone, imagine changing how a computer reads bytes, replace a few 1s with 0s and try to hook it up with another computer. Except with brains there are 2s, 3s and 4s too.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on May 30, 2009, 12:35:10 am
I imagine they would also first abduct specimens like Darth Grievi's H'qur, yes, GG? Or at least have a machine dedicated solely to translating the mental code of foreign species?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Snork on May 30, 2009, 05:39:49 am
(http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/news/the-shadow/The%20Shadow%20-%20Sam%20Raimi.jpg)

This came to mind when I read the title.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Cyst on May 30, 2009, 09:23:25 am
The Shadow are the species that I mentioned in the idea for the Flash Cartoon. That's the only reason I am giving them a proper profile.They are Amorphous blobs that are pure evil. They seek to destroy all life, and have unbelievable technology behind them. The reason why is that they were trapped in an alternate dimention for countless aons,being one of the first creatures in the galaxy. This is evident in how physically undeveloped they are. They are called "the Shadow" because they are pitch black.One ability they developed is to take complete control of another creature. Due to this, they also developed advanced hypnosis and mind-control technologies. Their form of combat, due to their lack of numbers, is to infiltrate the government of the attacked species, "possessing" or mind controlling high government officials, and weakening the species from the inside. Then, their small number of ultra-powerful ships can annihilate the species. As I stated, they cannot reproduce quickly, and their whole armada consists of only 346 ships. But each ship is very powerful, capible of holding it's own against multiple enemy ships.

Phew! :-\
Blobs of pure evil? Evil is a moral creation, not a substance. It should be eons not aons. Dimension not dimention. Capable not capible.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on May 30, 2009, 10:32:07 am
I meant that they are purely,unadulteratedly evil.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Cyst on May 30, 2009, 11:02:12 am
But you wrote it in such a way that it says that the shadow are blobs of nothing. Also, define evil. To Hitler the Jews were evil but to the Jews Hitler was evil. So what kind of evil are we talking about?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: madis on May 30, 2009, 12:06:38 pm
Im guessing controlling the world by any means necessary evil.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Cyst on May 30, 2009, 12:10:23 pm
Then the Quasits would be evil too. As would the human species.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: madis on May 30, 2009, 12:15:12 pm
When did anyone say that the listed species arent evil?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Cyst on May 30, 2009, 12:17:31 pm
And what our species considers evil is not necessarily evil to another. See my Hitler : Jews explanation of evil.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: madis on May 30, 2009, 12:22:36 pm
Conquering the universe would only be considered not evil by the ones doing.

I am pretty certain that its universal.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on May 30, 2009, 01:02:08 pm
I doubt anyone will get this reference, but:
*Surprised* "The Shadow?!"
*Scared* "The Shadow!"
*Resolved* " The Shadow."

Heh. :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Snork on May 31, 2009, 02:29:25 am
Evil does not exist. Good does not exist. What is evil to one is good to another, and so on. It's all just Human Opinions and Points of view, it's never constant and it's never true.
Just my opinion :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on May 31, 2009, 09:10:20 am
I think he means evil as in ruthlessness, mercilessness, hatred, emotionless, wanting to destroy all life except their own, etc. all at the same time. I mean, my Galante and Farostites are both emotionless(Farostites more so), and Galante are somewhat ruthless, but neither are evil. At least the Galante wanted the Farostites to still think that their "benevolent" Queen was ruling them, instead of a Galante computer... Huh. Actually, I don't think the Farostites are any better off than they were, but they think that they're very lucky and happy.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on May 31, 2009, 09:17:06 am
The dimension that they were sent to was perpendicular. It was the same as this one.Wait......wouldn't that be an alternate universe?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on May 31, 2009, 09:27:00 am
The dimension that they were sent to was perpendicular. It was the same as this one.Wait......wouldn't that be an alternate universe?
Yes, yes it would. I think that would prove the Big Bounce theory correct, except for the theory that universes are floating along in bubbles or whatever in a void or something... I would recommend the Shadow just not telling anyone and keeping it a secret. Besides, I don't think even the Nauceans know the true nature of dark energy. Well, they might, but if anyone does, I think it's the Wexxians. Maybe someone should make a topic about this... Oh wait, the Wexxians left forever. Darn. Now we'll never know. Oh well.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on May 31, 2009, 11:05:50 pm
Personally, I think the Nauceans know most, if not everything about dark matter. For the most part, they're pretty much just exploring the universe just out of curiosity, since they're living in a god-like level of Utopian existence by now. They might just be capable of making their own universe by now.


Well, that's just my opinion, of course. :)


Though, I do think the Wexxians, the Omic and the Vis also know a lot about the stuff, being the most technologically advanced races in the galaxy and all. :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 30, 2009, 06:38:40 pm
Ok, sorry to necro this, but I don't want these meanies to die out!
The main goal for the Shadow is essentally Galactic genocide. They wish to eradicate all life in the RG other than their own. They make use of the alternate universe they inhabit. They will appear, launch an extensive assault, and vanish without a trace, using their advanced Wormhole technology. Where most creatures can only go between two places, the Shadow mastered this technology, and can actually create a wormhole between universes. This means, until someone develops the technology to go between universes, the menace of the Shadow will never be truly squelched out.

Eh? EH?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on December 30, 2009, 06:43:12 pm
Alternate universe eh?

Perhaps Tuolfs will reconsider turning down the Talsenreave project...

(A device able to travel between time and space, including universes)

Anyway, I wonder what would happen if the Core Combine would happen to meet them...
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on December 30, 2009, 06:48:50 pm
There would be a big frickin' war, and I think the Core Combine would win, but with heavy losses.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 30, 2009, 06:53:34 pm
Allow me to explain something. These guys had the current wormhole technology that most creatures have a very short time after the galaxy formed....I had best give a backstory to explain this better.
     A short time after the formation of the galaxy, life began to form. There was much life, but it was undeveloped; the most advanced were two races. one was a pich black race, highly agressive, very territorital. The other was a peaceful race. Kind, friendly, and they did not jump to war very fast. These two races built up their technologies, their spacecraft, their civilisations. Eventually, the dark blobs, coming to call themselves "The Shadow" lauched a massive genocide against all other life in the galaxy, feeling it was far too inferior to have the right to live. Many races died out in the bloody affair. The other well developed race, apalled at this extreme violence, sent their fleet of mighty warships to engage the primary Shadow armada. Their secret weapon was a massive wormhole generator called The Divisor. This was the only device powerful enough to create a wormhole between universes. During the massive battle, they fired the great weapon. The whole of the Shadow fleet was cought in the wormhole. The weapon malfunctioned, and the power source was ejected, pulled into the wormhole as well. Though the threat of the Shadow was quelled for the moment, that power source gave them the technology that ultimately lead to their mastery of Wormhole tech, and gave birth to the current situation.What became of that other race? None remain who know.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on December 30, 2009, 08:07:36 pm
Hmm...

Are the Shadow at war with the Nauceans, by any chance?


Anyway, I wonder what would happen if the Core Combine would happen to meet them...

I just realized something...

Don't ever, ever allow the Combine to get near a completed Talsenreave.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on December 30, 2009, 08:08:42 pm
Oh, that would be baaaaad.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on December 30, 2009, 08:48:19 pm
Anyone else agree to training an army of crowbar-wielding theoretical physicists?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on December 30, 2009, 08:56:15 pm
Just remember that the first galaxies actually formed a few billion years after the Big Bang Horrendous Space Kablooie. Always do your research first.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 30, 2009, 08:57:39 pm
Anyone else agree to training an army of crowbar-wielding theoretical physicists?

Sorry, not even The Freeman will help you! Muhahahahahahaaaa! Wait...what were we talking about again?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on December 30, 2009, 09:01:30 pm
The Nauceans encountering the Shadows and promptly fighting each other because the Shadow wants to exterminate the worlds that the Nauceans are studying/protecting.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 30, 2009, 09:43:01 pm
Ok, a little about their tech. Their weapons work by firing an energy blast that breaks the molecular bonds of anything it hits. This shreads armour and such as if it was nothing. The denser things are, the longer they take to shread.Plain and simple. Their leader, Kari'u'Sadow, is someone I want to describe, as he is just some figure mentioned in RP's. Here is his bio:

Name:Kari'u'Sadow.
Age:??? (Unknown)
Height:In suit:10' 7", out:1"
Weight:In Suit:450 lbs. Out:15 lbs.
Info:Kari'u'Sadow, or "King of Shadows" translated into english, is the crewl and tyrannical leader of the Shadow military. He answers to an unknown figure, cloaked in mystery. He wears a massive suit of cybernetic armour, the whole left hand of which is a mass of various weapons. He can use these to rip apart infantry, vehicles, pretty much anything he comes across(The guy's practicly a walking armoury!). His suit's other arm is strong enough to send a Photos flying with little effort. His suit is also armoured to withstand most weapon impacts, making him nearly indestructible.He is a cunning commander, and is not to be underestimated, no matter the circumstanses.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on December 30, 2009, 10:28:33 pm
What kind of energy would that be? All I can think of is just a concentrated anti-gravity field.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 30, 2009, 10:34:26 pm
essentially, yes. ok.....Their weaponry works on the thought that Gravitrons are real(they are a theory, aren't they?). They essentially fire focused Graviron bursts..
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on December 31, 2009, 12:14:57 am
Man, you just gave me an idea! I'll be posting it soon.

Also, does Kari'u'Sadow get frustrated when someone points out how short he is? Might come in handy later on, when we need him in a dialogue.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 31, 2009, 12:21:45 am
Uh...yeah. I once planned a portion in an rp where he pins a Shadow trooper against the wall and shows him the inside of his gun barrels for making a joke about Kari's size under his breath. Sadly, RP died before I could....sighhh.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: SimplyNecro on December 31, 2009, 11:41:48 am
Quote

Anyway, I wonder what would happen if the Core Combine would happen to meet them...

There would be a big frickin' war, and I think the Core Combine would win, but with heavy losses.

That or they would stop fighting long enough to turn their hatred to the rest of the galaxy, THEN turn on eachother

essentially, yes. ok.....Their weaponry works on the thought that Gravitrons are real(they are a theory, aren't they?). They essentially fire focused Graviron bursts..

I can also see the Core Combine using those to, since they are also fans of gravity/anti-gravity weapons

Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on December 31, 2009, 12:23:38 pm
A graviton is a force of gravity, not anti-gravity. What you need is some gravity field metal. It's a fictional metal that creates a gravity or anti-gravity field depending on how strong an electric current passing through it is and whether it's positive or negative. It is manufactured in huge quantities due to the tremendous demand for use in starships and other things. Although some applications are for peaceful purposes(like recycling by stripping matter down to atoms), a weapon could hypothetically be created by using the metal to create an anti-gravity field at a distance, thus disintegrating anything or anyone in its way. I think that such a weapon would yield horrific results, and would probably be banned from the galactic community. Think Dr. Manhattan, or the arc gun from District 9, or that psychic mutant lady in X-Men 3.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on January 02, 2010, 05:52:23 pm
This is my theme song for the Shadow, created by yours truly:
ShadowThemeSong.mid - 0.00MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/70715746db3bf937/)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on January 02, 2010, 05:53:56 pm
Hmm...

I can't find words to describe my thoughts on that piece...
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on January 02, 2010, 05:55:21 pm
In a good way...or a bad? It's my first song, so please excuse me if it sucks. :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on January 02, 2010, 07:08:26 pm
It's a good start, and sounds like something from a Gameboy Advance game. By the way, I strongly recommend not using that site. It's full of stupid and even offensive ads and also pop-up ads, meaning there are most definitely viruses lurking about waiting to infect your computer and corrupt your files.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on January 20, 2010, 06:45:53 pm
Thanks.

Anyway, there are several ships the Shadow use:

Shatterer-class Juggernaut
Class: Juggernaut
Size: 1.4 Kilometers long, 0.5 kilometers in diameter
Powerplant:One Reactor
Engines: 4 Plasma Engines
FTL Device: Wormhole Generator, able to span between universes
Armament: 8 Gravitron Accelerators; 68 Gravitron Cannons; 180 point-defense Gravitron guns.
Picture:

Interceptor
Class:Frigate
Size: .7 Kilometers long, .4 Kilometers in diameter
Powerplant: One Reactor
Engines:3 Small Plasma Engines
FTL Device: Wormhole Generator, able to span between universes
Armament: 2 Gravitron Acellerators; 4 Gravitron Cannons; 20 point defense Gravitron guns.
Picture:
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/ShadowFrigate.png)
These are the most common used, but there are other classes which I will post soon.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Crazen on January 20, 2010, 07:20:14 pm
shadowy being of pure evil? and there actualy called shadow? really?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on January 20, 2010, 07:44:37 pm
Some people just aren't too good with names, alright? We had to have a cliched "evil" race at one point.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: martyk on January 20, 2010, 07:45:24 pm
I was kinda thinking that too.  They seem awfully cliched.  We've had evil races before without them being this ridiculous.

Also:

This means, until someone develops the technology to go between universes, the menace of the Shadow will never be truly squelched out.

What "until"?  The Kratiar have been capable of this for ages.  They don't go to paralel universes because there's no reason to, but they're perfectly capable of it.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on January 20, 2010, 08:03:23 pm
They aren't involved with the Shadow, now are they? And how are they cliched?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on January 20, 2010, 08:15:20 pm
Stereotypical just-evil-to-be-evil people. That is the cliche.

Due to that armada banter thing, I think they were bullied by more ancient species XD
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 19, 2010, 08:20:40 pm
The Deathbringers'
Deathbringers are special Shadow troopers that have been artificially been integrated into their special armour. Their weapon is unique: it's called a Weapon Node. Based off some unknown tech, rumored to work off the Immaterium (like the Ai'uther [I think that's the name, something like that]), though that's just a rumor. They can be morphed into any weapon by the Deathbringer using it, so long as they know how. Deathbringers are psychic, and this is how they morph the Weapon Node. They also somehow generate ammo for their weapon in question, though this is, again, rumored to be Immaterium-based. Not working alone, the technology they use in the Weapon Node has something to do with it, though the secrets are well-kept, the Weapon Node self-destructing upon the death of the Deathbringer. They are the most elite of the Shadow ground forces, and are more than a match for almost any opponent. Caution is reccomended when engaging at any distance.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Spartan King 95 on March 29, 2010, 08:46:51 pm
Let's take a trip into the wonderful world of Sci-Fi TV shows. Today, we will look at Babylon 5.The Antagonists in Babylon 5 are called the Shadow. THE END!
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 29, 2010, 09:00:22 pm
Let's take a trip into the wonderful world of Sci-Fi TV shows. Today, we will look at Babylon 5.The Antagonists in Babylon 5 are called the Shadow. THE END!
What? Ok, really. GET OVER THE BLOODY NAME. WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER THEY BE CALLED? THE BLACK BLOB GUYS? So what if the name of the villans in Babylon V happen to be called the Shadow? It's the same as the generic enemy name "hunter". That name was used in Half-life 2, Halo, Battletech, and so many other series' that I dare not attempt to name them. I know the FREAKIN NAME IS CLICHED!
GET OVER IT!
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Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on March 29, 2010, 09:09:38 pm
There wasn't enough reaction in my overreaction, I demand a refund!  >:(

In all seriousness, I think the cliche name fits the Shadows' seemingly cliched peronality
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Spartan King 95 on April 04, 2010, 09:59:12 pm
Let's take a trip into the wonderful world of Sci-Fi TV shows. Today, we will look at Babylon 5.The Antagonists in Babylon 5 are called the Shadow. THE END!
What? Ok, really. GET OVER THE BLOODY NAME. WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER THEY BE CALLED? THE BLACK BLOB GUYS? So what if the name of the villans in Babylon V happen to be called the Shadow? It's the same as the generic enemy name "hunter". That name was used in Half-life 2, Left4Dead, Halo, Battletech, and so many other series' that I dare not attempt to name them. I know the FREAKIN NAME IS CLICHED!
GET OVER IT!
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Don't forget that one. The Left4Dead hunters suck.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Crazen on April 04, 2010, 10:38:25 pm
What? Ok, really. GET OVER THE BLOODY NAME. WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER THEY BE CALLED? THE BLACK BLOB GUYS? other series' that I dare not attempt to name them. I know the FREAKIN NAME IS CLICHED!


just to put things in perspective, I have a black blob( and tentacles) guy, and I named it thulithotulus.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 05, 2010, 03:44:10 am
You people are all morons.

We need a clichéd evil guy. Some of the coolest wars in this board's history were due to either an overly evil race of space raptors or because of some neo-hitler taking control of a huge alliances.

Thank you, that is all.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 05, 2010, 03:45:13 pm
THANK YOU!  ::) Finally, someone get's it.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 08, 2010, 02:04:07 pm
The Fear
Class:Worldship
Armament: Too vast to account at one place.
Pictures: 1 is the normal fear, the second is with a different colour scheme, so you can see what it looks like.
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/Fear.png)
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/Fear2.png)
Bio: The most powerful ship in the Shadow armada, the Fear, the name appropriate, is a force to be reckoned with. The Fear is meant to be much more powerful than many ships in existance at the moment, and it's armament reflects that. Able to decimate hundreds of ships singlehandedly, the Fear is a mobile terror, striking fear into it's enemies, ere-to-for the name.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on April 08, 2010, 09:12:01 pm
What's it's rough estimate in size?

I have this strange thought of the Vara Orealyianis mounting it.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kitkat on April 08, 2010, 09:22:31 pm
....m-mounting?

O_o
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on April 08, 2010, 09:40:21 pm
All the while spinning a giant cowboy hat with one of it's hands and yelling "YIPPIE KAYAY, ------------!", yeas.  :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 02:21:01 pm
That central spot with the arch-looking things is about the size of Earth. The rest that sticks out is extra, so, about the size of 1 1/4 Earths.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on April 10, 2010, 02:55:14 pm
That central spot with the arch-looking things is about the size of Earth. The rest that sticks out is extra, so, about the size of 1 1/4 Earths.
*cough*GODMODDING*cough*

Fun fact: A ship that size would strip pretty much every planet they own of its metals and other natural resources. Also, if it's that big it has to be spherical or it will collapse, according to the laws of physics and the theory of gravity. Unless they had gigantic gravity field manipulators all over it, but that would add an insane amount to the cost, resources, and time needed to build it. Seriously, just a big weapon planet the size of Ceres would do, like the Death Star. It doesn't need to be that frickin' massive.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 02:59:00 pm
???
I thought the Nau...Na....*blast it, I can't spell it right!* Hydro's Tentacle-in-the-mouth guys had multiple worldships? If what you say is true, than that would be godmodding as well. Or mabe I'm wrong. I don't know. Besides, these guys are from a different universe. Ere-to-for, there could be more or less minerals, hypothetically speaking.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on April 10, 2010, 03:01:43 pm
The Nauceans are on the tech level of gods by now, and when they built those they were pretty damn close. I doubt any species that's in a stalemate war with the Photos can't build something like that. Besides, just saying "they're from a different universe" is a Handwave on par with "a wizard did it."
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 10, 2010, 03:11:16 pm
You're not Hydro.

Take a good long look at this thread, is it as nearly as fleshed out as the Nauceans, at all?

You get your planet busters and late-space age people when people don't protest when you try to use them.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 03:21:06 pm
That's not my point. If you have an expansive empire, undisturbed in it's own lands, there would be a large amount of resources in the coffer.

@UFO King: Please explain how that works. In another universe, the different formulation of planets could result in higher resource density, and ere-to-for, a higher amount of resources in the coffer, as dictated before. You're retarded wizard remark implies that materials appear as if by magic. Please, you crossed hypothetical events and Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 10, 2010, 03:24:23 pm
... What.

Allow me to explain this in image terms:


(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7814/missedthepoint.png) (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/missedthepoint.png/)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 03:37:16 pm
Yeah, that's the general consensus.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Clarke on April 10, 2010, 03:59:10 pm
Also, Hydro's world-ships were spherical. And the size of a moon.

Actually, if I recall, they were actually modified moons, and not constructed out of resources hauled out of gravity wells.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: UFO King on April 10, 2010, 04:02:43 pm
"Retarded wizard remark?"

See: A Wizard Did It. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt) One of the most famous tropes, along with Hand Wave (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandWave), both of which you have pulled off.
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7814/missedthepoint.png) (http://img38.imageshack.us/i/missedthepoint.png/)
Thank you, Plank.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 04:14:19 pm
Yes. Yes I did.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 10, 2010, 04:21:13 pm
Admitting you missed the point doesn't mean anything if you don't then at least attempt to hit the point afterwads.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on April 10, 2010, 04:34:49 pm
Then, rather than straight complaining, why not a suggestion, given you're the ones who find an issue?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Plank of Wood on April 10, 2010, 04:42:49 pm
Making it a size that wouldn't offend UFO's sensibilities would be an ideal start.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on April 10, 2010, 06:43:08 pm
Pretty much.


Also, Nauceans pretty much started the "My New Creature" phenomenon, so I guess we owe him a bit of lenience when it comes to the implementation of handwavium.  :)


A Wizard Did It. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt) One of the most famous tropes, along with Hand Wave (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandWave), both of which you have pulled off.

I... won't... give in!

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Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 12, 2010, 02:47:55 pm
Ok, they've been dead for a while, in the background.
We can forget about the worldship nonsence, that's water under the bridge.
So I'll work on a major update nao :P
HISTORY AND HOMEWORLD
The real homeworld of the Shadow is somewhere not many expect. During the war with the Phitire, the Shadow overextended their forces later in the war. They just didn't have the volume to take over the entire galaxy, something they may have done had they been more numerous. This overexertion of forces cost them the war, the Phitire, with their advanced technology, able to go on par with the vessels of the Shadow. Many of their most powerful pieces of technology were lost. After a short time, they were beat back to their homeworld and it's orbiting artificial moon of a fortress. While this fortress was armed to the teeth and nearly indestructable, it was of no use in the final battle. The major fleets of the Shadow and Phitire clashed out of weapons range of the fortress, while the Phitire's ace in the hole charged. Just as the Shadow began to gain the upper hand, the Phitire warped in virtually the largest weapon in the galaxy's history at that time: the infamous Splitter Cannon. What this weapon did was create a localized wormhole, linking to another universe. This wormhole had an emmense gravity well, but ate up so much energy it could only stay open for a short time. However, the great beam that ripped open the fabric of space did away with a great number of Shadow forces in it's own right, and the remainder, including the Fortress, were sucked into the wormhole. It wasn't a difficult task to finish the Shadow on the planet off. Seeing a possible issue in the future, the Phitire planted a modified version of their own DNA on the planet, a race that grew up to the race now known as the Photos. Much was indirectly coded into genetic memory, including a language and some technology information. So, the Photos homeworld, Photise, is actually the ancient homeworld of the Shadow, propagated and watched over by the Phitire. Between when the Shadow inhabited it and the Photos, it looks so different you would not know they're the same planet!
POST-WAR
After this crippling defeat, the Shadow were broken. Much of their technology was lost, and they were stranded in an uninhabited, unknown universe. It took them years beyond count to regain enough technological ground to return to their home universe. And their weaponry was set back centuries. The gravitron weapons they use today, though effective and quite powerful, are NOTHING compared to what they had back in their peak. They possesed terrors that were capable of things most modern scientists would be utterly dumbfounded by. Many of these lay scattered accross the galaxy, the same with many of the more deadly Phitire technologies, though that is for another discussion. To put it a certain way, the modern Nameless and the Shadow during their prime would have gotten along perfectly, inbetween attempting to annhilate each other XD. However, the Shadow aren't QUITE as large, nor as aggressive as the Nameless.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: SimplyNecro on December 12, 2010, 04:37:13 pm
Those magnificent bastards...

It's one thing to blow the crap out of your fleet and drive you off your homeworld via dimensional banishment...

But to leave a literal part of you on the planet, a living scar so to speak.... Thats just a big ole **** you to the Shadow ain't it?

Makes you wonder if the Shadow left anything behind, I can imagine thats why they would really want their homeworld back...
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on December 12, 2010, 04:42:02 pm
Those magnificent bastards...

It's one thing to blow the crap out of your fleet and drive you off your homeworld via dimensional banishment...

But to leave a literal part of you on the planet, a living scar so to speak.... Thats just a big ole **** you to the Shadow ain't it?

Makes you wonder if the Shadow left anything behind, I can imagine thats why they would really want their homeworld back...
A literal part of you?
Little miscombobulation on my part.
The Photos were derived from Phitire DNA, not Shadow. I'll edit it to be more specific.
Thanks, necro! You found an error :D
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: SimplyNecro on December 12, 2010, 04:48:51 pm
My mistake too, I was actually referring to the Phitire leaving a part of themselves on the planet. My bad.

Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on December 13, 2010, 06:12:31 pm
YAK DECULTURE!  ;D


To put it a certain way, the modern Nameless and the Shadow during their prime would have gotten along perfectly, inbetween attempting to annhilate each other XD.

Indeed!  Xp



Ps. sorry for not posting in the RP yet, exams and such.

End of this week, I'll be free til January, though.  :)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on January 13, 2011, 08:59:58 pm
LOST TECHNOLOGIES OF THE SHADOW
INERTIA-LESS DRIVES: Though a rare sight even in during manufacturing, the Shadow during their heyday possessed a form of Inertia-less Drive, which worked by projecting a weak warp field (the same used by some races for pseudo-FTL travel) and used this "bubble" to cheat Inertia. However, the material and energy costs were staggering, and few ships were equipped with these devices.

OBELISKS: These strange weapons known as "Obelisks" to most were towering, obsidian-looking constructs of immense power. The pieces of these devices were suspended with each other using Gravitron beams, and a Gravitron field for propulsion. A typical attack was a focused Gravitron attack pulled from the Gravitron beams and field, though most were equipped with more fearsome weapons. Their real strength, however, was surprise: they could remain offline and connected, looking much like an obelisk, where their name is derived from. However, getting close would result in a surprise and death. Even if you got to it first, they were still incredibly hardy: Many armies would have a difficult time taking but one of these things on, without orbital support. Size varies, from only a foot or so to towering monoliths of over 75 feet.

OBLITERATOR CANNONS: Obliterator cannons were weapons that fired an unstable bolt of particles that resulted in a small-scale nuclear detonation on impact with solid matter. Similar in function and result to the Photos' Mass-Reactive Cannon, but much more refined and powerful.

(I'll edit with more, but for now, I have to go to bed. I'll add more tomorrow.)
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on January 14, 2011, 12:35:12 am
INERTIA-LESS DRIVES:

Reminds me of Jehuty's Zero Shift.  8)


OBELISKS:

Hopefully, there aren't any much left, especially in areas prospected for colonization.

One of these attacking a colony would be pretty awkward, to say the least.  ;D


OBLITERATOR CANNONS:

Same in principle as the Milika's atom crushers, huh?
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Kenotai on January 15, 2011, 06:28:33 pm
@Yuu

"Vykusi Atom Breakers"

Gosh.

And they don't sound alike at all to me.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on January 16, 2011, 04:14:01 am
@Yuu

"Vykusi Atom Breakers"

Gosh.


Sorry 'bout the mix up, I was probably thinking about Twin-Pair Annihilation Reaction Weapons.

Also, yup, the Vykusi, not the Milika. >_<

I might have also swapped the Atom Breakers' function with that of the Reaction Weapons, sorry.  >_>
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on March 19, 2011, 08:24:30 am
A little update for the Shadow.

BT-1 Scythe Battletank:
(Oooh, the render came out choppy. must have been an upload issue. Ah well, makes it look more like a vidfeed XD)
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/BT-1Scythe.gif)
The BT-1 Scythe is the vehicle that fills the role of tank in the Shadow military. It's only weapon is a massive Graviton Cannon mounted on a turreted housing. It has a full 360* range of movement, but it can only angle up so far. The Scythe can "dig in" and become a low-power anti-orbital weapon. Like most Shadow ground units, it is well armored and very powerful, but not particularly fast. It also has a bigger brother, the Sickle, though I'll go over THAT when I have a picture for it.

B-201 "Halycon" Bombarder:
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/B-201Bombarder.gif)
A ship designed for bombarding planets and giving orbital support fire, also armed with a cloaking field generator. The problem with the CFG is that when engaged, the ship cannot use it's weapons. It's only gun, a high power Gravitron Beam, can be elevated far enough to hit other ships equal in hight with it. It is known for harassing until reinforcements arrive, taking potshots then sneaking away with it's cloak. However, sensors still pick it up, so it isn't foolproof.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on March 19, 2011, 04:55:30 pm
(Oooh, the render came out choppy. must have been an upload issue. Ah well, makes it look more like a vidfeed XD)

Actually, I kinda like it this way.

Gives off a certain fell to it.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on August 04, 2011, 09:54:38 pm
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The Infiltrator-class Lander is a Shadow vessel used for ferrying whatever needs transport from spacecraft to a planet's surface. For a lander, they're rather large, but due to this it means that usually, there's no more than one in use for a certain operation. They are armed standard with 4 Obliterator cannons and smaller Gravitron cannons in large amounts. However, as the Obliterator Cannons cease to work, they're usually replaced with Gravitron Obliterators, a similar yet weaker weapon.
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/ShadowInfiltratorLanderSide-1.png)
Side
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/ShadowInfiltratorLanderTop.png)
Top
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/ShadowInfiltratorLander.png)
Firing the Gravitron Obliterators
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: Yuu on August 05, 2011, 09:39:26 am
AWW YEAH!

That's some wicked texture going on there!

Really, is that even a texture, or did you pit it on by scratch?! :O
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on August 05, 2011, 09:52:15 am
It's a texture, but I put a lot of tricky stuff into into it, whereas normally I don't. The thing that really makes it stand out is the white areas of the texture actually have a glow effect attached to the texture map, which I managed to enable and create that neat glow effect.
Title: Re: The Shadow
Post by: GroxGlitch on October 11, 2011, 10:53:55 am
BT-2 Sickle:
The BT-2 Sickle is the "heavy tank" of the Shadow military force. Standing at 30 Feet/9.144 Meteres tall, the BT-2 towers over most combat units. Fast, agile, and armed with a pair of Gravitron Obliterators, the Sickle causes a lot of destruction in short order. Sickles are able to take on most of the mechs of the Photo's Waratica division and still be in good enough shape to continue their rampage. As if their speed and maneuverability aren't bad enough, they're also equipped with a teleportation unit that allows them to make a long-distance jump or several short-range hops. They're commonly found in groups of up to three walkers. One downside is that the way their guns are mounted; if a powerful weapon connects, it tends to blow the gun off.
(http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv343/PicPile/Sickle.png)