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Title: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 21, 2005, 02:52:03 pm
Planet spore forums has two now and I'm determined for GS not to be outdone! (plus I'm bored)

This one's a little different, It's a silicon based life form:

In a sea of very cold ethanol on a strange planet float a number of small (say 1/4 of an inch diameter) drops of sillicon based 'oil' insoluable in the chilly alcoholic sea, they have no minds and do not percieve the more complex beings which share their planet and currently survive by absorbing minute traces of sillicon compounds from the 'water' (as I will refer to it from now on). When they get big, low surface tension causes them to split into two or more smaller droplets and they have little control over their own movement. They also have very simple 'cell organs' which synthesise the compounds they require. As a droplet splits, it is evident that a change is present in the offspring, what is it:

A: The new droplets absorb huge amounts of heavy matter from the water and sink to the sea bed
B: The droplets have little trapped pockets of gas which cause them to float to the surface
C: The droplets become very thick and greasy and can 'swim' through the water at will by deforming their gooey bodies
D: The droplets grow a crust of oxides which makes them rigid free-floating spheres
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on November 21, 2005, 03:13:07 pm
i choose D, since i want them to grow into crystals, not breast implants.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: HolsteinCow on November 21, 2005, 03:56:05 pm
D, flying is pretty fun and awesome
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 21, 2005, 04:29:56 pm
they are actually floating in the liquid substance that covers thier planet, not in the air.

but yea this could be interesting.

also, this step could provide them a way to get to solid ground faster and would allow them to develop ways of holding thier structure outside of a liquid medium.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on November 21, 2005, 04:32:46 pm
yeah, also they wouldn't be breast implants anymore.....
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 21, 2005, 04:37:39 pm
yeah, also they wouldn't be breast implants anymore.....

lol, yea..

oh yea, what sort of more complex biengs are you talking about krakow? are they more advanced silicon based lifeforms or something more akin to terrestrial life? just wondering.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 22, 2005, 12:12:11 am
I'm thinking more advanced silicon lifeforms, the planet is too hostile in our terms for carbon based life to stand a chance... Now i just have to think of some wacky sillicon predators :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 22, 2005, 07:26:21 am
A- 0
B- 1
C- 2
D- 3

The new offspring rapidley absorb traces of mineral oxides from the water to form a rigid but all in all pretty weak shell. These offspring reproduce in a different way to the parents, the shell is permeable to the liquid outside, but almost none of the matter inside can get out, as a consequence when the inside gets too big, the shell ruptures and some of the liquid leaks out as offspring. Since the shell has been split, the organism has time to grow before it reforms and as a consequence bigger specimens can reach up to an inch in diameter before they die.
The seas the 'blobs' inhabit are also home to the Trk (pronounce terk). Large sacks of fluid supported by thin fibres which radiate out of the central body and snare prey for the creature, the fibres are capable of contracting like muscles and many Blobs are caught and consumed.
A Blob ruptures and releases a number of tiny droplets before it is ensnared by the Trk, whats odd about the new droplets? 


A- They have short tendrils which extend from the centre of the body and emerge from the surface of the drop (note: these will be encased in minerals when the droplets mature and become rigid spikes)

B- They have a very thick crust which would afford protection from the floating Trk but would also cause the droplets to sink and not encounter the Trk anymore anyway.

C- They have small rotating 'paddles' which allow them to swim slowly

D- They absorb huge amounts of flourine, chlorine and other volatile gasses in an expandable bladder which make them lethal to any current predators and bouys them to the surface
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 22, 2005, 07:37:54 am
A would make them look like viruses, or maybe more like tiny versions of those old WWII floating sea mines

B will they reform into spheres after they mature though?

C no comment I guess....

D could work... not sure how volitaile gases would effect silicon, but seems cool anyway

Hey Krakow, just wondering, did you take classes in chemistry or something? cause you seem to have some knowledge of it.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 22, 2005, 08:09:11 am
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B will they reform into spheres after they mature though?
Yes they will

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Hey Krakow, just wondering, did you take classes in chemistry or something? cause you seem to have some knowledge of it.

Yes, im doing A-level chemistry at the moment, but the contents of this story are total sci-fi, i got the idea of living droplets from a thing I read about how scientists are trying to create a life-like substance (one that replicates, grows and posseses some method for inheritance) in the form of small oily droplets, the method by which our blobs reproduce in the first stage is identical to the way the oil drops are supposed to multiply. Other than that i'm just naming chemicals that this planet is abundant in and making things up  :D 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 23, 2005, 09:15:45 am
A- 0
B- 0
C- 2
D- 3

The offspring have an expandable sack in which dissolved gasses collect from the water, this causes them to float to the surface of the sea and brings them into closer contact with the Trk, when the Trk try to eat these drops they rupture the gas bag and recieve a dose of noxious gasses, the Blob is killed too but after a few generations the Trk learn to leave the Blobs alone. Unfortunately floating on the surface has brought our blobs into contact with the Dirig, the dirig are corpulent creatures which resemble hot air balloons with an arcade grabber arm on it. These monsters float over the surface of the water with a huge gas filled baloon and grab abything they can get a fix on with their large prismatic eyes. They are the only creatures currently immune to the gasses contained in the Blobs and soon many Blobs are eaten every day. What happens next?

A- The next generation of blobs are toroidal (donut shaped) and can propell themselves forward by siphoning water through the hole with contractions of their body

B- some blobs are swept up in a freak whirlwind and dropped into an inland lake.

C- The blobs have even more massive gas bladders and absorb lighter than air gasses more efficiently allowing them to escape the water and float at the same level as the Dirig, escaping their grabbing arms

D- The shells of the blobs become stronger and more flexible meaning they often slip throuhght the fingers of the Dirig
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on November 23, 2005, 09:18:07 am
Reset the poll, so we can vote. :)

Anyway, I vote C, I very much like the idea of floating.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 23, 2005, 09:37:50 am
I'd say B for the heck of it.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 23, 2005, 09:46:54 am
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Reset the poll, so we can vote.


Sorry, its really easy to overlook :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 24, 2005, 02:01:27 pm
A- 1
B- 0 (smjjames says he wants b but didnt vote, not that it matters really)
C- 4
D- 0

Boy, you guys are pretty single minded!

A generation of Blobs buds off with huge bloated gasbags pushing the total size of the mature adult to around 3 inches in diameter, the young droplets live in the water until theyre shells form and their gasbags inflate, then they leave the water and float serenely above the waves. This presents a problem since they can no longer just strain nourishment from the water, several generations die shortly after their first budding but eventually a new tactic arises, several blobs have developed thin tubules which penetrate the shell, these easily puncture the thin skin of the dirig and allows them to suck out the weak gassy fluid within, they need to suck vast quantities of the liquid to sustain themselves and the dirig is almost always killed by the vast swarms of floating blobs. but thats not a problem since the dirig are everywhere, eventually the two populations reach a stable pattern. Nice one! The blob have risen to the top of the food chain in a mere few million generations, i wonder what effect this will have on their ancestors  ???
The blob are still at the mercy of the winds, how are they going to move around independantly?


A- Gas vents, a controlled version of a punctured balloon
B- Rocket thrust! Bear in mind that this will send their feeding requirements way, WAAAY up
C- Adjustable sails and rudders (kind of dull so if you pick this theyll get a secret MYSTERY BONUS, but I havent thought of what its going to be yet)
D- Abandon the skies, increase mass and size by a factor of 3 and roll around on the sea bed (predicted votes= 0 :P)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on November 24, 2005, 02:03:07 pm
Sorry, but I had to pick D. Blobby things rolling around on the seabed = amusing.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 24, 2005, 02:11:20 pm
You can actually vote now ::)
Damn my feeble brain!  :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on November 24, 2005, 06:12:50 pm
I would gave picked C even if you hadn't added the mystery bonus. They are fast turning into blimps.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on November 24, 2005, 11:03:46 pm
I vote C. Blimps would be cool.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: ilikesanta on November 25, 2005, 09:15:44 am
I voted a) mostly because I would hope they would make farting sounds when they zoom around ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2005, 10:55:55 am
A-1
B-0
C-6
D-1
You guys want a secret surprise eh? ;)

The blob develop A large 'sail' spanning their entire circumference vertically which can be unfurled to catch the breeze and smaller fins to adjust airflow and steer rudimentarily, the blob experience little change for several hundred years until one day just recently, a bright object is seen in the sky (not by the blob, they dont have eyes) pulsating slowly, on that day several specimens of blob go missing. they reappear the following night with a dense patch of shimmering crystal encrusted on the front of the sphere, these crystals penetrate through to the liquid organism within the shell and are sensitive to light, vibration and are capable of analysing the chemical makeup of objects (like smell), the tiny crystals in the cluster also interract strangely with each other, often emmiting little flashes of light which cause a change in those crystals exposed to it. The Blob which posses the crystal clusters move with more purpose than their peers and benefit hugely from the gift of senses. The offspring of these crystal blob also grow crystals and soon the entire population has them (they still arent very clever though, before they had all the intelligence of an amoeba, now theyre more like snails or bright beetles).
So now what?


A- The density of the crystals increases several times (not choosing this will still cause the blob to get smarter, itll just take a bit longer)
B- The blob learn to control their gas bladders like a fish and swoop on prey close top the surface (allowing them to live over land, away from the dirig)
C- One pair of rudders develops into jointed arms
D- a freak tornado picks some blob up and drops them into a valley miles inland ringed by mountains so high that the blob can not cross them under their own power, who knows what mysteries await in the valley?

Is being uplifted a good enough surprise? :P
I think the blob have gained enough of an identity to start thinking about a better name, please post suggestions.
   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on November 25, 2005, 11:20:34 am
You should give the blobs some kind of shape.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2005, 12:02:41 pm
they have a shape, theyre spherical... duh!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on November 25, 2005, 12:36:26 pm
I mean some kind of regular animal shape. The way it's going now, they'll just be little shiny blobs with arms and legs. Give them definition.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on November 25, 2005, 12:45:19 pm
Names:                              Oh, and
Melnorme                           C for limbs!
Pulbon
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 25, 2005, 12:49:23 pm
its still early in thier evolution. besides thier 'biology' is greatly different from what we would think of as standard carbon based biology, and they are more crystalline than anything.

I picked C because now is a good time as any to develop jointed limbs, even if they are only used as fins.

as far as shape, I thought they would be a little flattened and a bit enlongnated for stability. but still spherical.

name:

Cryoeltan
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2005, 02:50:10 pm
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Melnorme

Oh, yeah because that wouldnt be blatant plagarism, why not call them the taalo or chenjesu while we're at it? Then they can fuse with a race of homeless robots ::) and end every sentance on an upbeat
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 25, 2005, 02:54:10 pm
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Melnorme

Oh, yeah because that wouldnt be blatant plagarism, why not the taalo or chenjesu while were at it?

I knew that name Melnorme sounded familiar.

The Taalo and chenjesu aren't though

As far as Cryoeltan, I was going for something that would sound metallic or crystalline.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 25, 2005, 03:20:44 pm
yours is fine, melnorme taalo and Chenjesu are all races in star control two, the chenjesu are crystalline, the melnorme appear organic and the taalo are supposedly rocks but you never actually see one.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on November 25, 2005, 05:38:31 pm
Melnorme, because they are blobs.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 26, 2005, 02:22:58 am
youre clearly forgetting that the umgah are way more bloblike than the melnorme, and these things certainly arent umgah. Hur Hur Hur!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 26, 2005, 10:48:33 am
A-1
B-1
C-3
D-2

hmm, thats better, a slightly more even spread of votes. Now without further adiue:

A bizzare mutation causes a blob to grow rudders on the end of its rudders, this allows it to grab onto the dirig and hold it, this is useful as the dirig begin to fall to the surface after death. Now a good sized group of blob can hold up a dirig until its been totally sucked dry, as a result the blob get slightly larger and the population increases somewhat. This is all well and good for a few generations, then the planet's orbit shifts slightly, the areas the blob inhabit decrease in temperature by around 4 degrees, the new conditions bring with them a new threat in the form of Darts, small fast predators shaped like...well, darts, which delight in puncturing blob and sucking the liquid from inside the shell. the blob can not outmaneuver tham because they appear to be rocket propelled and travel very fast. How to deal with this new threat?
A- New chemical reactions within the blob produce a thick smog from the gasses in the air at no extra cost, the gasses shroud the blob and help them evade the dart

B- The blob stage a mass exodus to warmer climbs, a swampy (for want of a better word) landmass covered in sillicon based 'plants' and home to several new kinds of animal

C- A defense mechanism develops which allows the blob to spray highly adhesive gunk in the form of tiny droplets which expand on contact with the air and cause the darts to fall out of the sky

D- the blobs crystal cluster begins to emmit flashes of light of such intesity and frequency that it causes epilepsy style seisures in the Dart (which posses very sensitive sight). this comes at a moderate energy cost and will reduce the population somewhat as more food will be required for sustenance.

Keep the names coming
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: drgamer on November 26, 2005, 11:11:56 am
D, just because it would be fun to do that...
Also could eventually be communication
Perhaps eventually they can get energy from the sun (For the flashes)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on November 26, 2005, 01:01:46 pm
D, I don't like A because it reminds me too much of the Pokemon, Koffing or something.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on November 26, 2005, 03:42:38 pm
I voted D because I don't think they are smart enought to "stage" anything.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 27, 2005, 02:41:32 am
What i meant by stage is that over a few hundred years the population slowly drifts there, theres no concious though involved
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: HolsteinCow on November 27, 2005, 09:58:05 am
C! Ninjas!  :D

Names... (all of these are plural)

The Pehlais
The Iovees
The Reileyans
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 28, 2005, 10:51:50 am
A-0
B-1
C-3
D-4

The crystal cluster on the shell of the blob becomes mre dense and begins emmiting flashes of bright light in starange patterens, this causes seisures in the Dart which fall harmlessly out of the sky, the increased frequency and brightness of the flashes also serves to somewhat increase the mental capacity of the blob (were still talking thick here though). The energy required to run this more efficient brain is quite high though, so the population density of the blob decreases somewhat. With no natural predators the blob appear to be sitting pretty, until you consider the fact that they totally rely on one species for food, if something were to happen to the dirig the blob would be done for. How does natural selection expand the pallete of the blob?

A- the lower part of the sail becomes grossly overdeveloped and gets turned into a trawl net, sifting plankton and detritus from the sea

B- The blob abandon the sea (for some reason) and head for the 'swamps' to the south. Who knows what prey lurks in the brittle trunks of the quartz trees?

C-The crystal cluster takes on the ability to photosynthesize to get the blob  through lean times (this will be a fallback only, any blob operating solely on photosynthesis will be sluggish, stupid and will go into hybernation during the night)

D- Dark shapes have been seen above the bluish clouds during the day, prey perhaps? increase the size of the gas bladders and ascend ever higher into the sky!
 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 28, 2005, 12:46:04 pm
I don't know how good thier eyesight is, but its probably primitive. and if they are seeing dark shapes pretty clearly that high, then those floating things must be HUGE, more likely to make us prey rather than predator.

I'd say going to the swamps would provide more opportunities.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: drgamer on November 28, 2005, 01:15:52 pm
C, think about the advantages in space!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on November 28, 2005, 01:17:54 pm
A. It's the surest way to make sure we don't starve.

And don't forget to vote, DrGamer.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 28, 2005, 02:19:04 pm
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I don't know how good thier eyesight is, but its probably primitive. and if they are seeing dark shapes pretty clearly that high, then those floating things must be HUGE, more likely to make us prey rather than predator.

Its us that can see the shapes. The Blob arent intelligent enough to decide to rise up, I just said there were shapes up there, otherwise thered be no reason to float up in the first place.

All the Blob's senses are currently pretty blah.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on November 28, 2005, 08:54:03 pm
i think we should move to the swamp.  the more complex spatial environment should foster our intelligence.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2005, 06:29:30 am
A-2
B-3
C-2
D-4
onward and upward!

As the newest generation of blob mature their gasbags swell (the blob are now around a foot in diameter) to gargantuan size, they float higher and higher, through the clouds and into the thin cool air above, it is now revealed that the large dark shapes are HUGE plant like organisms supported (like the blob and dirig) by massive gasbags, which are taking advantaged of the increased intensity of the light up there. More amazingly, entire ecosystems have developed on their surface, from other gasbag organisms,to 'gliders' flitting from platform to platform, to small crawling crystalline 'bugs', to rough skinned fish like creatures living in pools of ethanol which have collected on the flattened surface of the plant. The blob can not feed on the plants themselves, not only would it cause the platforms to deflate and fall out of the sky, but because the plants have a sybiotic relationship with colonies of small crawling crystalline 'insects' which defend the plants in exchange for nest space in the body of the plant itself. The blob instead start attacking the various gasbags which live on the platforms and a balance is soon reached. The blob cut their ties to the surface for the time being and let their droplets mature in the pools on the plants, some are eaten by the fishes but enough survive in this plentiful environment.
Now there's enough food on offer how should the blob exploit it?

A- develop jaws to feed on things other than gasbags
B- develop a rasping tongue to graze the surface of the plantforms (plants + platforms)
C- Photosynthesis, now a more viable option since the light is much stronger here
D- Develop resistance to the Crants (the bugs that guard the plants) and feed off the plantforms (but not so much that it harms them permanently)

Keep the names coming. :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 29, 2005, 06:56:53 am
I pick A

also you forgot ti reset the poll.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2005, 07:47:17 am
uuuuuuuuh...no i didnt! :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 29, 2005, 07:56:15 am
uuuuuuuuh...no i didnt! :P

heh, yes you did, but now its fine ;)

As far as gaining jaws, I don't have to explain much about the advantages, but since they are silicon based the jaws don't have to resemble organic jaws (although they probably will anyway because of functionality) so we can have a pair of pincer things with lots of circular saw or gear shaped teeth that spin.

unless people want to go for a more placid existence and use photosynthesis (which would work almost exactly like solar panels which are also made of silicon, but far more efficient).

I think choosing either gaining jaws or gaining photosynthesis may have an affect later on when they gain sentience as they could be a more aggressive or placid race.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 29, 2005, 08:07:21 am
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I think choosing either gaining jaws or gaining photosynthesis may have an affect later on when they gain sentience as they could be a more aggressive or placid race.

<Taps side of nose>
If youve been reading what Ive posted in the other Spore game then youll see that these guys are destined to be the allies of the Inceptus, but for the sake of the story i havent given stupidly obvious developmental choices to that effect. ie 'electric power' or 'sybiotic relationship with fish' that would just be dumb.
I havent really thought about how they might develope either way but the plantforms are going to be their home from now on (until they have the technology to spread to other parts of the planet) unless someone has some huge objections.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 29, 2005, 08:12:20 am
yea I know they are destined to be allies of the Inceptus. it was just a thought there. and while the jaws will increase the prey they have access to, they can further develop thier photosynthesis later on.

I don't mind if they stay where they are now.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: lemurbouy on November 29, 2005, 09:08:51 am
B- I think a rasping tongue could develop further uses later on and for now would be useful in utilizing the plantforms up here. -leeman
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 30, 2005, 02:36:32 pm
A-1
B-1
C-4 (kaboom!)

The crystal cluster of the newest blobs has unusual photoelectric properties (unlike anything natural ;)) and can take advantage of the bright sunlight up on the plantforms to produce lots of energy for growth, as a consequence the crystals grow very large and dense, covering nearly half of the surface of the shell. The blob are gaining intelligence fast (theyre about as clever as a rat now) and are banding together into loose disorganised groups, they communicate with bright flashes of light and can coordinate to a certain degree while hunting the occasional gasbag for the trace minerals they require. Just recently however, their peaceful existance has been interrupted by the arrival of a gargantuan race of sleek, black, insectoid predators which have been jumping the huge distances between the plantforms and delight in devouring the defenceless blob. The blob's epilepsy attacks dont work on the insects, how are they going to defend themselves?

A- develop rudders on the rudders on their rudders ( jointed arms capable of grasping and holding, boring, so as before has special mystery bonus! ;))

B- Strange vibrations within the crystal clusters which render the blob fuzzy and indistinct, a sort of primitive cloaking field.

C- Grow a super hard, diamond like shell covering the entire organism

D- Several blob become able to link together into a composite 'super blob' large and more intelligent than the sum of its parts



Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: TheShark on November 30, 2005, 02:38:05 pm
Damn! I accidently clicked C...I wanted the cloaking field.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on November 30, 2005, 02:42:09 pm
its ok, I hadnt reset the poll yet... apparently ???
The vote counter isnt displaying anything so your in luck
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on November 30, 2005, 02:44:03 pm
i'll pick A, for fun.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on November 30, 2005, 02:45:02 pm
A: I thought they already had some sort of jointed arms, but more wouldn't hurt. Still might not provide a defense against those insectoids. unless the special bonus gives them something nasty

B: some kind of harmonics field which causes spatial disruptions I guess, but still cool :)

C: Will provide defense, but will makie them heavier.

D: makes sense for these crystalline biengs, but they aren't quite ready to take such a huge jump towards sentience (especially with the Inceptus spore story lagging behind right now. I wonder what Holstiencow is doing... )

I pick A, should be fun :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on November 30, 2005, 03:57:32 pm
B.. just because vibrations sound interesting
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 01, 2005, 08:10:15 am
It's a tie, next vote wins. I cant bring myself to choose between a and b
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: HolsteinCow on December 01, 2005, 12:32:39 pm
What, these things are destined to be the allies of the Inceptus?

Either I was already planning this and I'm in denial, or I knew that it would be a bad idea because I have a reletively loose schedule and it would be a pain in the ass to coordinate these two stories, and people are just taking their speculation a little too far?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 01, 2005, 03:56:14 pm
A-4
B-3
C-0
D-1
Great, now I have to think of a suprise  ::)

Another generation of blobs, another bizzare mutation. The graspers on their front rudders now have little rudders which turn them into opposable 'hands'. Unfortunately the blob are still too dense to use tools so they continue to be butchered by the insectoid invaders. Some time later a streak of fire is seen in the sky and a large, geometric, shiny, black slab miraculously lands on one of the plantforms. It has no effect on the blob, but it sends the insectoids nuts, in the space of a week they all throw themselves from the plantforms and dissapear down below, who knows whatll happen to them?  ;)
The black slab then loses its strange lustre and over the course of a few years, is buried under debris and forgotten... for now!
What now? Super arbitrary choices coming up!

A- Make the shell of the blob shimmery and rainbow coloured, ahhh!

B- The blob begin to engage in inexplicable daredevil behavior, executing death defying dives and twirls for no good reason, oooh!

C- instead of splitting and 'giving birth', the blob just explode and release a whole bunch of droplets at once- eeeuurrgghh!

D- The blob change shape, from spherical to a sort of elongated ellipse, hmmm!

Enjoy!

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 01, 2005, 04:02:58 pm
lol, you must have been bored or something to put those choices in :)

I dunno, D for the heck of it. it'll also make them more stable I think.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: ilikesanta on December 02, 2005, 04:26:24 am
Exploding birth rules!!!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 02, 2005, 12:49:02 pm
oh dear lord! I was expecting that to be the least popular choice... your all sick, sick i say!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 02, 2005, 12:51:24 pm
oh dear lord! I was expecting that to be the least popular choice... your all sick, sick i say!

I didn't vote for it. I voted for the rainbow colors. It could more easily turn into a very nice way of communicating.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 02, 2005, 12:56:14 pm
oh dear lord! I was expecting that to be the least popular choice... your all sick, sick i say!

I didn't vote for it. I voted for the rainbow colors. It could more easily turn into a very nice way of communicating.

I thought the rainbow thing would make them look like hippie blobs or something. There will be other choices that can lead to a communication method.

I voted D though...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: TheShark on December 02, 2005, 12:56:18 pm
I only voted for exploding births because that way we could sacrifice one blob for a very large number of them. And anyway, it isn't efficient if our society has any emotional ties to their young. This way their will be no mother, just caretakers.

Wow, that sounds harsh...borderline Borg. Meh
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 02, 2005, 12:58:28 pm
almost same time post lol, you posted 4 seconds after me.

but yea, I don't see these things having emotions, at least not emotions as we would know them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 02, 2005, 01:33:14 pm
Theres no actual difference in the number of offspring created, th explosion just means it happens all at once.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: TheShark on December 02, 2005, 01:37:16 pm
Oh...well even so. The mother would not be able to do very much for the group after birth anyhow. I suppose give birth to another litter, but that in that amount of time the offspring would be that much older and closer to the spawning age.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on December 02, 2005, 02:22:15 pm
seems someone's been playing Halo, or at least had some sort of influence by the Flood. i vote d, though i really wanna vote c
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 02, 2005, 02:27:12 pm
seems someone's been playing Halo, or at least had some sort of influence by the Flood. i vote d, though i really wanna vote c
Everything in Halo was already done when the game came out.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 02, 2005, 02:57:09 pm
Ive never played halo in my life

A-1
B-0
C-3
D-2

A structural change in the blob means that they can no longer split open to release droplets, instead when a blob reaches its maximum size it violently explodes and releases a huge cloud of little droplets. this process can also be triuggered by extreme stress and proves a useful survival strategy (though not for the parent) as a number of potentialy hostile creatures soon learn not to harass an adult blob. this last change has helped the blob reach a quite advanced level of intelligence (think Caledonian crow), sapience isnt far off. But a few more hurdles to overcome first. A climatic upheaval causes the temperature to rise, this limits the effectiveness of the blob's crystal brains and something needs to be done about it or they may be doomed to mediocrity forever.

A- Small flapping rudders act like fans to blow cool air over the crystal cluster, these may also be used for fine maneuvering

B- Chemical reactions within the liquid part of the blob use large amounts of heat and draw it from the crystal, this will also slightly enhance the metabolism of the blob

C- several 'nozzles' develop which spray the crystal cluster with a fine mist of ethanol which quickly evaporates and cools it, this may be used as a form of defence

D- Some smart blob move further from the equator to plantforms further north and south, they may find something good there but will be restricted to cooler climbs until they develop technology to get over that problem.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 02, 2005, 03:39:52 pm
I think B would be the best way, although I'm not sure what sort of chemical reaction would do that.

We haven't decided on a name yet though and we should develop something to use as a form of communication.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 02, 2005, 03:49:30 pm
Ethene --> Polyethene?

Also, the UFOs that were destroyed should swear vengeance and pose various forms of threat until the giant climactic battle before the blobs develop the Interstellar Drive. Really.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 02, 2005, 04:42:50 pm
We haven't decided on a name yet though and we should develop something to use as a form of communication.

I think light would be the best way, seing as they have the ability to produce light. I don't recall being able to hear at all.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 03, 2005, 02:05:59 am
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Also, the UFOs that were destroyed should swear vengeance and pose various forms of threat until the giant climactic battle before the blobs develop the Interstellar Drive. Really.

Youre thinking of the inceptus, in that story a UFO gets nuked. In this one the Blobs were uplifted by one and the insectoids were obelisked by a different one.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 03, 2005, 03:20:22 pm
B-5
C-2

The metabolism of the blob becomes powerfully endothermic, acting as a heat sink and cooling the blob down. This stops the blob from being able to withstand cold but in warm conditions they become highly active and mobile. This is it, the blob are two steps away from true sapience. They need to master tools and they need to form a society

Vote on the tools using the poll and post your choice for society in bold

An especially bright blob finds a hive of small 'gasbag bees' these would be a perfect snack but the bees are walled in, in a tough nest which can not be broken by the blob alone, it looks around the clearing for some assistance, what does it pick up?
A- A large, hard crystal, smash open the nest!
B- a nearby Amethyst Crab, they move VERY slowly but rip open nests easily to eat the larvae of the gasbag bees
C- A shard of highly refractive crstal, it can stick it in the entrance hole and emit a powerful flash to 'smoke out' the bees
D- A thin pointy stick, it can skewer some bees that way without going to the trouble of destroying the nest.

Society: the blob can already communicate with flashes of light, sound is not an option as they have a very limited sense of hearing. The fact the blob reproduce asexually means that I cant just steal jedimutants society plan.. I'm going to have to make up some new ones.

A- Alpha tribe: The leader of the pack is the blob whose crystal cluster is largest and can produce the brightest light, this is decided unanimously as the blob are very different mentally to anything we know of and dont need competition... yet. All non-leaders are subservient to the leader and obey his commands absolutely but are all equally treated.

B- Feudalism: The leader is decided as above but the other blobs are not all equal, there is a chain of command.

C- Hyperdemocracy: No leaders, all decisions are made by consensus. Its certainly nice and fair but those desicions take years to agree on. Has the advantage of eliminating leader stupidity.

D- Brave new world: the brightest blobs are leaders and decide on things as with hyperdemocracy, next down are the administrators and the least intelligent or most athletic blob do all the hard grind.

E- Compound organism: groups of up to 100 blob temporarily attach to each other, while joined, they function as one organism, decisions are reached by consensus, if a blob has ideas too different from that of the majority in that group it will peacefully detatch and from its own group. Activities such as hunting or squeezing through narrow gaps will be undertaken by those blob best suited to the task who temporarily detach and then reconnect when the work is accomplished. basically, they think in unison and act individually.


Post as many names as you can, I'll choose some to vote on after we've picked a society so the name can better match the civilisation.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 03, 2005, 03:35:52 pm
I like A and E for the society as they both fit these guys. although I think E would work better in the long run. It's also borg-like as they have one mind.

These guys would almost be living computers like that. I can just imagine a ship of thiers as bieng incredibly efficient and very quick reactions.

I wonder how other species who communicate through sound would be able to communicate with these crystalline beings as they don't detect sound very well. Although by the time they meet other species technology would be advanced enough on both sides to find a way.

oh yea, E for the society

and the species name I had submitted earlier in the thread: Cryoeltan

edit: changed my vote for the tool, see my comment a couple posts below.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 03, 2005, 04:16:05 pm
C for bee retrieval method and E for society.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on December 03, 2005, 04:51:34 pm
E for Society also
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 03, 2005, 08:45:36 pm
c and e.  the perfect crystaline empire.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 03, 2005, 11:08:52 pm
IMO it doesn't really matter what tool they start out with, a tool is a tool

although I agree with Leng, its a continuity of the fact that they are crystalline.

so I change my vote and its
-D
+C
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 04, 2005, 02:38:38 am
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I wonder how other species who communicate through sound would be able to communicate with these crystalline beings as they don't detect sound very well. Although by the time they meet other species technology would be advanced enough on both sides to find a way.

Secret hint: The blobs visual range extends across almost the entire e.m. spectrum as we know it, this includes radio waves ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: ilikesanta on December 04, 2005, 11:15:03 am
I vote E name "Super Mega-Saur Blobula"  :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 04, 2005, 11:25:34 am
Quote
I wonder how other species who communicate through sound would be able to communicate with these crystalline beings as they don't detect sound very well. Although by the time they meet other species technology would be advanced enough on both sides to find a way.

Secret hint: The blobs visual range extends across almost the entire e.m. spectrum as we know it, this includes radio waves ;)

They'd still have to be smart enough to understand and interpret what they are seeing. So, its down through to ultraviolet I guess. not sure about x-rays, but much further down the spectrum and the e.m. rays get too energetic, that is, radioactive.

Not that there would be many sources of x-rays on the planet itself...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Madchat18 on December 04, 2005, 12:16:45 pm
B and E! I'm really enjoying this!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: HolsteinCow on December 04, 2005, 02:17:11 pm
B.

I don't know why everyone is voting for E. It just seems idiotic to me.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on December 04, 2005, 02:26:45 pm
It just seems idiotic to me.

Have you ever even heard of Krakow Sam?! Of course it's gonna be idiotic!  ;)

Krakow, I mean no harm by that. I simply mean that you are a silly guy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 04, 2005, 05:41:55 pm
D. With E, it seems like it would just kind of sit around until it builds a UFO.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 05, 2005, 07:50:17 am
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I don't know why everyone is voting for E. It just seems idiotic to me.

I think someones just jealous because i didnt steal my society ideas  :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 05, 2005, 07:54:54 am
my danglerfish have a totally different social architecture too.  most of the options are pretty limiting.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 05, 2005, 09:32:59 pm
E!

B, because that can lead to domestication later.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 06, 2005, 01:35:39 pm
A-0
B-3
C-4
D-3

The Blob picks up a sharp shard of shiny crystal and wedges it into the main entrance to the gasbee hive. Acting on a mad whim it emits a bright flash of light at the crsytal, to its delight the bees come swarming out of the hive, maddened by the light and easy to catch, the blob signals some others and soon theyre all attacking hives. The blob have seen the benefit of communication and sharing knowledge, they have taken the last step toward sapience and form... A compound organism. The blob find they can communicate more clearly if they actually connect the their crystal brains, the compound is organised so that all the crystals converge in the centre and the outside is a mass of waving rudder arms, this compound organism floats slowly over the plantforms, individual blob detatch when they feel hunger or are about to reproduce (explosively) and when the groupo needs to do some serious thinking or there are orders to be relayed the blob are rallied back to the group. It is the best of both worlds, hive intelligence matched with individual freedoms. the Blob now need a proper name (in the vibrational language of course, they have their own name in light talk):

A- Cryoeltan
B- Pulbon
C- Reileyans
D- or my own made omn the spot name: the Luminex

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 09, 2005, 01:47:11 pm
Wow that prompted loads of discussion  :P

The newly formed society of Blob call themselves the Cryoeltans and prosper. Soon there are groups of Cryoeltans on most of the plantforms on the planet, using primitive unrefined crystals as lenses and mirrors to aid them. One day a particularly thoughtful group of Cryoeltans living on a northern plantform (cooler and therefore more conducive to intelligence for the Cryoeltans) stop thinking about how to capture gasbees and instead begin to ponder what it is that stars might be. What conclusion do they reach?

A- They are the life essence of the Cryoeltans which have died, forever observing the living from the heavens.

B- They are malevolant and evil entities who want to break through the sky and devour all life on the planet, the sky will keep them at bay for only so long before they begin to break through.

C- They are the dull and inconsequential product of large nonsentient space animals, they hold no interest to enlightened Cryoeltans.

D- They are the eyes of the Creator, looking down on all Cryoeltans and keeping them safe.

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 09, 2005, 01:58:03 pm
C might make sense for a living-computer like species, but I don't think they are that emotionless.

A or D sound nice, although I'm not sure if they'd have the sort of concept of death as we do because the end of thier lifespan is when they explode to release droplets, so maybe to the Cryoeltan, you never 'cease to exist' you simply transform or something.. Even if they did have the concept of death, it would be quite different from ours.

I guess D, probably doesn't matter whether its A or D....
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 09, 2005, 01:59:37 pm
The difference is wether theyll start out being ancestor worshippers or jump straight to gods, I havent really thought too far ahead on the consequences of any of this though.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 09, 2005, 03:15:53 pm
B, because then they will have beig weapons when they finally do go to space.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 09, 2005, 08:58:18 pm
B, because the stars would be "screaming" at the Cryoeltans with radio waves. And that would be creepy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 10, 2005, 12:57:46 pm
Haha, just thought this was funny:

 Choose carefully
A  1 (25%)
B  1 (25%)
C  1 (25%)
D  1 (25%)
 
Total Votes: 4

I voted C.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on December 10, 2005, 01:07:38 pm
I vote B- Unite them against a common foreign enemy. They will feel a global one-ness and won't fight each other as much. Plus it's cooler.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 10, 2005, 01:23:49 pm
righty-ho

A-1
B-3
C-1
D-1

After much thought the colony come to a consensus. these are evil screaming monters from beyond the sky! they may break through at any time so preparations must be made quickly. The Cryoeltans greatest weapon is their light emmiting power so they desperately begin searching for ways to enhance it. They find that by using certain naturally occuring lens like crystals they can use the power of the sun to cut other crystals and begin to gain a good understanding of optics, within a few generations they have fully functioning lenses which they wear tied across their crystal clusters with twisty vines. They also reason that they will need great numbers to fight off the starscreamers and begin to take a more active role in raising the droplets. They carefully construct barriers to hold liquid in which the droplets may grow and actively defend from predators, the population is booming and more food is required for minerals which cant be photosynthesised. What should the group do?

A- start feeding off the plantforms...carefully, they're smart enough to realise that being greedy would result in death

B- encourage more gasbees to move to the plantforms the cryoeltans are occupying

C- figure out some way to process and eat larger animals such as amethyst crabs and Krants

D- start attacking other colonies of cryoeltans and stealing any food they may have hoarded. this is highly abberant behaivior.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 10, 2005, 01:25:55 pm
C is definitely the best choice.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 10, 2005, 01:28:20 pm
C, i don't want any chaos. Yet.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on December 10, 2005, 01:55:56 pm
I vote C as well. This is going to be a peaceful and boring society until you force us to fight other blob things (forgot the name).
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on December 10, 2005, 06:28:54 pm
I will vote C as well.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 10, 2005, 07:48:43 pm
C. D doesn't make any sense until somebody finds a way to get more food.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 10, 2005, 07:52:52 pm
yea, D would be fun since they now sound psychotic with that new 'religion' of thiers, so why not do other abberant behavior :)

but I agree with the others, C is a good one, and the only one that was voted on anyway lol.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 12, 2005, 01:50:22 pm
7 votes for c. no votes for anything else.

The cryoeltans discover that by using lenses, parabolic mirrors and the power of the sun (or several cryoeltans) they can cook down several large creatures into a nourishing chemical soup. The group grows in size and health as a result. A by-product of this process is also a large amount of mineral goop which dries hard. The Cryoeltans devote much thought to applications for this goop and find they can use it to make waterproof vessels to hold food reserves and act as creches for their young. They can also mix it with other substances to stop it from hardening and use it as a sticky trap to catch food.
The newfound improvements dont help much when the axial tilt of the planet spontaneously increases by almost a degree. The planet now experiences much harsher summers (the season which adversely affects the operation of the cryoeltan's crystal brains.
The tribe need to find a way to protect themselves from the fierce summer heat.

A- construct large shades to keep the sun off while the cryoeltans are joined

B- Move to the underside of the plantforms, construct platforms and balconies to live on. Venture out at dawn and dusk to hunt and photosynthesise without overheating

C- fashion bottles out of goop to carry ethanol in. It can be splashed on to cool a cryoeltan down

D- Construct a massive sail and affix it to the plantform, it can be moved around. north in summer and south in winter 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 12, 2005, 04:53:17 pm
D, in case it changes their behavior when they get UFOs. Also it is cool.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 12, 2005, 05:32:37 pm
I like C, reminds me of us. I wonder why...  ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 14, 2005, 08:51:25 am
I also voted D earlier because it will provide shade and won't affect their photosynthesis as much as A. The plantforms are huge so adding a sail won't harm the plantform too much. There may be additional problems with migrating as far as any animals they bring along, but I'm sure they can adapt.

Its about time to update this Krakow, with 6 votes in D, no way anything else will be able to catch up soon.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 14, 2005, 02:25:50 pm
No problem.

The Cryoeltan think-tank (I'm going to call it that from now on because it sounds cool and is in effect what it is) deliberate long and hard and finally look to their own bodies for a solution to the heat problem. they've figured out that it gets cooler further north and put a few ideas together. they eventually come up with a grand ambitious scheme. The think-tank detatches and the Cryoeltans busy themselves collecting plant material and cooking up goop. A group of particularly bright Cryoeltans form their own small think-tank and experiment to produce a sort of rough fabrice from the fibrous plant substances collected by the rest. It isnt machined cloth and it takes a long time to assemble but within a few months (on that planet, i cant be bothered to figure out how many of our months it took as that isnt important) they have completed the Grand Sail. Arranged much like the Cryoeltan's own sails it girdles the plantform and is controlled by dedicated Cryoeltans pulling ropes and rigging. The grand project complete the cryoeltans unfurl the sail and move north. In the cool northlands they find virgin plantforms to colonise and soon they too have sails. The Cryoeltans have become semi-nomads: they have permanent homes, but they move them around to suit their needs. As their numbers swell they become slightly less fearful of the stars and begin to devise ways of fighting back. Several think-tanks set to work thinking of what weaknesses these monsters may have, what do they decide?

A: They are monsters of light, they can be killed by brighter light

B: They are killed as easily as normal living beings, simple force will defeat them

C: Only with pure thoughts and actions can the screamers be defeated

D: They can not be defeated, we must simply hope they lose interest in us
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 14, 2005, 02:31:12 pm
I think C would be cool, will make them into a Jed Council kind of thingy.

And reset the poll.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 14, 2005, 02:36:13 pm
lol, the Cryoeltan sound psychotic about the light eminating from the stars. They'll be dissapointed when they finally get a close enough look at the stars.

A would fit with thier psychotic thinking about the stars. But then again we might consider some early beliefs by early humans to seem psychotic to us.

As for B, I have no idea how they will do that. Although I hope they don't see thier own sun as one of those monsters and blow that up LOL!

So, whats left is C or D.... not sure which one I'll vote on quite yet.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 14, 2005, 03:14:23 pm
are you kidding?  the sun is like a mother goddess.  it directly supports them through photosynthesis, and provides them with majickal optic power over their environment.  if anything they would see the sun as their protector... at least until they found that OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 14, 2005, 03:20:05 pm
are you kidding?  the sun is like a mother goddess.  it directly supports them through photosynthesis, and provides them with majickal optic power over their environment.  if anything they would see the sun as their protector... at least until they found that OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!

I know, thats why I said I hope they don't see thier own sun as one of the star monsters.

While D is one option that will make them not psychotic, C is the other option that will do so, but there is more of a benefit with C intelligence wise.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 14, 2005, 03:32:14 pm
are you kidding?  the sun is like a mother goddess.  it directly supports them through photosynthesis, and provides them with majickal optic power over their environment.  if anything they would see the sun as their protector... at least until they found that OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!

They dont have the means to destroy the sun yet. Youll just have to make sensible choices so they get past the whole psychotic phase BEFORE they invent star-destroying weapons. ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 14, 2005, 03:33:24 pm
Sensible choices like C!!!!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 14, 2005, 08:39:35 pm
Lets go with C bring on the christian like belief system that all impure thoughts are wrong and are the work of the devil (or in this case screamers).
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2005, 08:01:01 am
C-6
D-1

how boring!

The cryoeltans we are following decide that the only way to defeat the screamers is to be as good as they can be, to share and be nice and all that sort of stuff. unfortunately that puts them at odds with the Cryoeltans which believe that the screamers must be killed with light, and the Cryoeltans who think force is the answer...And the cryoeltans which think its hopeless. Currently there is no conflict between them but recently representatives of all four 'sects' began establishing themselves on a new plantform which recently floated into the area. Soon they will expand and come into contact. what action should our group take when they meet others.

A- Ignore them and carry on with whatever it is you happen to be doing

B- Try to establish friendly communications and trade

C- Get them to interface with the group and then try to convert them to our way of thinking

D- Kill them! Wiping out those who would oppose us in our quest for purity is a pure deed, indeed.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 15, 2005, 08:03:36 am
C, Resistance Is Futile!!  lol

We do want them to be borg-like, with the collective mind and all. right?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 15, 2005, 08:08:06 am
if YOU want, i just give you options, your the one that actually chooses. Besides, for the sake of variety I think a hive mind would be a little too similar to those evil Bugs on planet spore. Arent you writing that one now smj?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 15, 2005, 08:31:48 am
I'm just writing it while Jedimutant is on vacation, she'll be back on the 20th.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 16, 2005, 03:01:07 pm
C- is win! happy vote today time?

ahem

Our group of cryoeltans expands and soon begins to work on building a sail for this plantform, unfortunately this brings them into contact with another group (the apathetic one). A think-tank is formed to decide what should be done. it comes to a decision and moves on the apathetic group. Being apathetic they dont really mind and offer no resistance when our group interfaces with them. the superior numbers and health of our group causes a cascade within the other group and soon they are 'converted' to the Path of Purity. They happily (if that word can be used to describe a silicon race whose emotions differ so much from ours) allow the sail to be built through their territory and even help with the construction. as allies they also share the expertise required to fasion crude shelters, these having been an important component of their 'hide from the stras until they go away' plan. Our group now occupies a large part of the plantform but is not yet in contact with the other two groups. This is now a secondary concern as a small think-tank recently came up with a disturbing piece of information: No-one noticed before, but the sun behaves exactly like the evil stars.
What happens next?

A- the knowledge must be suppressed, lest it incite mass insanity in the cryoeltans

B- come up with some sort of bogus explanation about the sun being a demon who defected from evil... or something

C- Come up with an equally bogus explanation that the stars look like the sun to trick the cryoeltans

D- Do nothing, and see what happens...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 16, 2005, 03:07:05 pm
I happy today vote time B.

Because their sun is going to scare the **** out of them otherwise.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 16, 2005, 03:09:46 pm
hmm...mass insanity?.... I'd picture alot of Cryoeltans screaming thier figurative asses off and flying all over the place with some of them boiling thier insides in the process....


C could lead to something more rational. but still, us humans have had incredibly irrational ideas and concepts before.

D could also lead to rational thinking (rational as in non-self destructive as opposed to irrational as in potentially self-destructive). Not sure what to vote for...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on December 16, 2005, 03:19:38 pm
I vote C. My reasoning? Shut up.

Vivec didn't vote.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 16, 2005, 03:20:21 pm
I (or we) struck gold with that psychotic religion. Now its impossible to know how things will turn out.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on December 16, 2005, 09:12:57 pm
I vote B. My reasoning? The sun screaming is just as evil as the stars screaming.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 16, 2005, 10:08:41 pm
C.  makes the cryoeltans even more jehova's witness-like.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 16, 2005, 11:12:51 pm
I like B go with this idea of the Suns redemption.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 18, 2005, 02:18:26 pm
B-2
C-4
D-2

LETS DO IT! < say in Arnie voice for maximum effect

The Cryoeltans think and decide that the screamers are pulling some kind of deception, as a result they become obssesed with avoiding and eradicating falsity. Camoflaged creatures are eradicated en mass and the Cryoeltans become expert at spotting things which are hidden and percieving untruths. Now they are paranoid as well as psychotic! This aids them no end when the Violence is the answer sect approches them and offers to help maintain the sail and steer the plantform. Our group can see quite clearly that they are readying themselves to attack and quickly drive them off with some coordinated flashing (ha ha!). Later, during the middle of the day when the Violents are sluggish, our group moves on them and converts them en mass, those which resisted the conversion were forcibly cast out into the sky to search for a new plantform. the only obstacle to totall plantform domination is the Light sect. how will they be dealt with.

A- enough forced conversion... lets try diplomacy

B- Impress them with a show of might and ingenuity to get them to change their minds

C- Convert them as we did the last two

D- Kill them all (ahahahaha!) 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 18, 2005, 02:21:57 pm
B, because it sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: 762 on December 18, 2005, 02:26:55 pm
D- Enough of this goody crap.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 19, 2005, 01:48:17 pm
more votes please, we have a four way tie of one vote each :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 19, 2005, 02:30:23 pm
Put my vote for B in D.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 19, 2005, 02:55:07 pm
four votes still isnt enough.

Is holstein Cow going to carry on the otherone or does someone else have to take it over?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 19, 2005, 03:17:41 pm
Put my vote for B in D.

That means 2 in D, and 1 in A and C, nd none in B.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 19, 2005, 05:17:19 pm
I vote A
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 19, 2005, 11:39:19 pm
Our little species here is going nuts lets drag them back to the light I vote A.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 20, 2005, 03:47:20 am
A-3
the rest: less than three

Our now very large group starts getting a nagging feeling that forced mental conversion isnt all that pure and good, they decide that they should try a new approach with the Light sect. Our guys approach their encampment and open communications, suggesting that they should work together and reconcile their differences. The opponent camp seems indifferent, they see no reason to cooperate as our group has nothing to offer them. Luckily they dont appear hostile. Our group gives up and heads back to the main camp. At that moment a thunderous roar, loud enough to be audible even to the Cryoeltans tears across the sky and 5 large black grasshopper like insects fly overhead and land on the plantform surface, one darts forward and kills a Light follower, they immediately begin fighting back, flashing much more brightly than our group can (as a result of intense training) and using advanced lenses and mirrors they eventually drive the screaming insects away. Unfortunately the light sects entire camp was destroyed in the battle. Our group seises the initiative and offers the light sect refuge in our groups camp. They accept. The light sect now live with the main group but exist as a seperate 'warrior elite'. They share their advanced optic technology and a prosperous society is formed. Unfortunately the insectoids have returned after their long banishment on the surface, they must be dealt with, they are an incredibly dangerous foe and have the potential to destroy our burgeoning civilisation outright. The Cryoeltans begin to fortify their position. How?

A- they invent and construct a massive, and almost flawless parabolic mirror. This can use the sun, or the combined might of several Light cultists to produce a 'death ray'

B- they burrow into the plantform itself, creating underground bunkers into which they can safely retreat when the insects attack

C- They build towers around the edge of the planform. Each tower contains an alcove lined with reflective material. A light cultist stationed inside produces a dazzling and potentially fit inducing light show.

D- They build weapons and armor and equip every adult cryoeltan with them. victory through strength of numbers   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 20, 2005, 07:24:17 am
A would only work against single targets at a time or a few close together targets

I vote C, it can also act as an early warning system so that they can defend quickly anything that manages to get through. and reset the poll please.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 20, 2005, 06:27:56 pm
A, because they might build a Death Star like object if this works. What do you mean by "almost flawless"?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 20, 2005, 06:31:11 pm
A, because they might build a Death Star like object if this works. What do you mean by "almost flawless"?

I think he means that it wouldn't be entirely smooth, basically he is saying they don't have the technology to make a perfectly smooth parabolic mirror like you'd find in telescopes or something.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 20, 2005, 06:32:29 pm
A, because they might build a Death Star like object if this works. What do you mean by "almost flawless"?

I think he means that it wouldn't be entirely smooth, basically he is saying they don't have the technology to make a perfectly smooth parabolic mirror like you'd find in telescopes or something.

All right, just making sure they small flaw won't kill half the remaining Cryoeltans.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 20, 2005, 07:45:29 pm
C would be perfect I agree as cool as a death sounds it seems to ineffitent to deal with infantry troops of the insect people. C sounds like the ideal course of action.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 21, 2005, 02:23:34 pm
C- 3
C is win!

several thinktanks are formed by the cryoeltans on how to defend the planform from the insects (lets call them hoppers, they are kind of like grasshoppers). They soon get to work building a network of towers around the plantform, using plant material, cement and crystals. Through experimentation they are able to grow crystals in solutions of ethanol and even grow crystals in moulds to make different shapes. they put this to work constructing an alcove on top of each tower. The light cultists take turns to be on lookout and man the towers. Soon after the towers are completed they are put to the test. A small group of hoopers screams over the horizon towards the plantform. The light cultists spot them and sound the alert, the rest of the population prepare themselves. As soon as the hoppers are in range the light cultists unleash a volley of flashes directly at them. one hopper immediately experiences a seisure and plummets down to earth. Two more are severly disoriented by the flash and collide with each other in mid air. One, the largest hopper with a redish tint to its carapace is unfazed by the assault and takes out a tower. The main group of Cryoeltans react by mobbing the creature en-mass and and though many are lost, they eventually bring it down. Their examinations of the carcass are cut short as soon after its death, the creature bursts into flames. Leaving nothing but a pile of unhealthy looking ash which the cryoeltans wisely collect and drop over the side.
The defenses are effective the cryoeltans can move in for the attack. What should be their first move?

A- send out emmisaries in all directions to find other plantforms and potential allies

B- prepare a party to scout the planet surface and assess the condition of the opposing forces

C- Fortify the defenses even further, build more towers, maybe even a death ray

D- develop better technology to aid the light cultists: armor, new weapons and the like.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Oviraptor on December 21, 2005, 02:52:08 pm
B- prepare a party to scout the planet surface and asses the condition of the opposing forces

I assume you mean assess. ;)

And I choose D.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 21, 2005, 06:06:31 pm
C! It rules!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Wahh on December 21, 2005, 07:17:42 pm
B, because there isn't enough time to further fortify or develop technology.  And even if there was, scouting can help determine what should be fortified and what technology should be made.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 21, 2005, 10:16:22 pm
A.  it will help us in whatever endeavor we choose, and will further our motif of light beings integrating everything into our networks.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 21, 2005, 11:51:59 pm
If normal light ray stuff has troubleno effect out the big guy i don't know what a bigger death ray gun will do just be more ineffectivve energy. Sounds like either B or D and seeing they are at war it seems the best course of action seems to be B know thy enemy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 22, 2005, 02:48:44 am
The purpose of the death ray is as a sort of lazer beam, the towers are intended to dazzle and confuse
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 23, 2005, 11:57:37 am
B-3
the rest got some votes as well.

A scout party of Light cultists is prepared. Generations of living in the sky means the cryoeltans are vulnerable to the pressure lower down. Work starts immediately on  hard crystal shells. The light bringers are sealed inside and lowered on a strong rope held up by other cryoeltans which have gone down as far as the pressure will allow. After several failed attempts the scouts finally spot the hive of the insects. It is a huge jet-black mound of some sort of shiny deposit and is swarming with hoppers, the scouts count at least 500 and small black specks on the horizon indicate more hives as well. It is noted by the scouts that the hoppers are behaving unlike any of the animals on this planet. They clearly display a hierarchy and show numerous signs of sapience. The scouts are about to find out more when the scream of hoppers in flight becomes detectable and about 100 emerge from behind a large outcrop of rock. despite hanging almost half a kilometer above the scouts pull on the rope, the signal that they need to be pulled back up. As they acend to safety they notice that the hoppers which emerged are fighting with the ones they saw in the hive. They relate their findings to the other cryoeltans as soon as they get back.
A few days later it is noted that a large bud appears to be emerging from the centre of the plantform, this grow, over a number of days into a stalk, supporting what resembles a large seed pod. this arouses the curiosity of the cryoeltans and they observe it carefully. In the course of a week the pod has swollen to a very large size. Finally it splits open and a large number of seeds are releases, supported by large floating bladders, they begin to blow away on the wind almost immediately. What should the Cryoeltans do?

A- Let them all go
B- catch them all and secure them to the plantform for study.
C- catch one and let the rest go
D- let them go, but send some well provisioned scouts to follow some of them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on December 23, 2005, 12:19:46 pm
i pick C, that way you can study it, and maybe find a use for them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 23, 2005, 04:00:41 pm
B, study them more effectively.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 23, 2005, 08:12:35 pm
i would keep some to study and let some go to follow them.  best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on December 24, 2005, 01:43:12 am
I was actully agreeing with leng can't we do that?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 24, 2005, 03:11:23 am
NO! for some reason we cant... :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 24, 2005, 04:14:40 am
**** lets follow them then. 

why are so many people voting A or C?  A is stupid and C is a watered down version of B.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on December 24, 2005, 01:03:47 pm
s**t lets follow them then. 

why are so many people voting A or C?  A is stupid and C is a watered down version of B.

Why are you voting in 3D maze to always take us back where we came from? It's a poll. There is only one vote for A and it was mine. Just because, why not.  :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 24, 2005, 01:05:02 pm
s**t lets follow them then. 

why are so many people voting A or C?  A is stupid and C is a watered down version of B.

Why are you voting in 3D maze to always take us back where we came from? It's a poll. There is only one vote for A and it was mine. Just because, why not.  :P

Because LadyM is too polite to say it, I will.

PWNED!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 24, 2005, 10:04:14 pm
i'm not pwned.  i'm deliberately sabotaging the 3D maze if you hadn't noticed.  i'm helping the cryoeltans in this case because i want them to become a galaxy-spanning breast-implant empire.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on December 24, 2005, 11:51:36 pm
i'm not pwned. i'm deliberately sabotaging the 3D maze if you hadn't noticed. i'm helping the cryoeltans in this case because i want them to become a galaxy-spanning breast-implant empire.

Well, stop sabotaging the maze, some of us like that game. Then maybe I'll help your cryoeltans.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 26, 2005, 02:29:27 pm
actually their everyones Cryoeltans.
The votes are tied between C and D but i cant be bothered to wait for someone to break the tie so I will COMBINE THEM! Amazing or what?

The think tank comes to a 50/50 tie over what to do so they adapt by quickly catching a seed and sending some light cultuists to follow some of the rest. The captured seed slowly swells over a number of days until it finally bursts forth with green spongey life. Huge leaves rapidly burst out of the top and large gas bladders quickly fill. The growth is accompanied by the release of chemicals which cause a mood of chilled out goodwill among the Cryoeltans. After a week of super-rapid growth a new plantform around half a kilometer across has grown up next to the parent and affixed itself with tough vines. The Cryoeltans celebrate this gift of new living space with a great feast. Its the very first Christmas (yay! cue sappy music and picture montage of people of all races coming together) on Cryoelta! Some weeks later the scouts return with news that the other seeds did not experience such rapid growth. hmmm, maybe they should have caught them all. Never mind. the Cryoeltans resolve to keep written records of events such as this so that next time the plantforms flower, theyll be better prepared to exploit them. The Cryoeltans see the growth of the new plantform as a sighn of sorts and move their dwellings onto it. leaving the larger plantform as a wild place, where they can hunt and harvest natural resources. It also means that they can defend the small platform from hopper attack more easily. Speaking of which, hopper attacks seem to have ceased recently. The Cryoeltans determine that they are too absorbed in their own conflict to persecute the cryoeltans. How should they take advantage of this calm time?

A- Seek out allies, forge ties with other cryoeltans.
B- Think and think hard, develop new techniques and technologies
C- Take the fight to the Hoppers, formulate a strategy and play the different sides in the Hopper war against each other
D- Keep fortifying the plantform, build more towers and barriers so that when and if the hoppers return we'll be impervious to their attacks.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on December 26, 2005, 02:31:37 pm
D, because they may get slaughtered if they don't.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 26, 2005, 04:03:33 pm
A, because we'll be able to do what we're going to do better with allies (again)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on December 26, 2005, 04:44:18 pm
I picked A

somehow the imagery here of these guys seem to be out of some video game...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 26, 2005, 04:51:21 pm
that depends what you imagine they look like. Anyone is welcome to try and draw these guys. Entrys will be judged by me, second place contestants will recieve nothing. Winner will recive... ummm... the honour of having a great Cryoeltan Hero named after them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Leng on December 26, 2005, 08:44:58 pm
amorphous, yet angular form composed of glowing angular solids of uncertain lustre.  motion appears as changes in shape and contour rather than muscular action.  one gets the sense that the object is neither solid nor liquid, held in a hybrid state of matter by it's life functions... it looks like a bunch of glowing rocks that change shape.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on December 29, 2005, 01:29:52 pm
Votes are tied. if your reading this and havent participated yet: get your finger in gear and tick a box :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 01, 2006, 03:38:16 pm
No es tied. Go Spanglish!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2006, 12:01:31 am
Yeah tie is broken.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 02, 2006, 03:11:26 pm
Sorry for the delay.
D wins

Thge Cryoeltans continue to fortify their plantform (the one which grew attatched to the main one). In addition to the existing towers they build a massive wall around the perimeter, add more towers with more reflectors, build similar fortifications around the all important sail and construct a huge parabolic mirror mounted on a large tower at the centre of their settlement, this can be manned by normal Cryoeltans and use the sun as a power source or all the light cultists in the village (easier to call it that) can discharge in front of it for a weaker beam which can be used any time. The mirror is made of a highly reflective but also flexible compound which allows it to be deformed to adjust range. The technology used to construct the walls is also applied by the cryoeltans to build permanent dwellings. Things are going well.
Some weeks later there is a mass attack by the hoppers. Those which arent taken out by the reflectors are quickly incinerated by the dish. There are no Cryoeltan casualties. Sucess!

now what?

A- Make friends and influence people
B- Go forth and multiply
C- Buy Low, sell high!
D- Carpe Diem

I'm not going to tell you what it all means, I think you can figure it out. 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 02, 2006, 03:56:06 pm
D, because I am assuming it means to go and attack the Hoppers.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 02, 2006, 07:51:46 pm
A. What ever happened to our attempts to make a nice peaceful race.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 05, 2006, 11:54:40 am
sigh... when will the killing end?

The unspeakably VIOLENT cryoeltans decide to press home their victory against the Hoppers and start construction on a massive "Bunker-buster" weapon. They mount a HUGE lens on the edge of the plantform and carefully position it above the hopper hive on a day they are sure will bring maximum sunlight. The hoppers do not notice them until the carefully calculated lens is deployed, focusing a white hot spot of hot death right at the entrance to the hive. The hoppers which try to leave are incinerated and those that stay in the hive are scalded to death by the molten glass which slowly gloops through the tunnels.
Ok, these hoppers are dead and the other hives saw the carnage and decided not to mess with the Cryoeltans... can we stop being evil now?

The light show attracted the attention of another colonised plantform (one with inferior death-ray technology). They ask to join our superior society and are instantly integrated, their planform is harnessed carefully to the small one and they move their dwellings onto it, leaving their original home for growing resources... incidentally, these could be managed better...

(secret hint: this choice will determine what sort of technology the cryoeltans will be expert in as well as optics)
A- Domesticate some native creatures such as gasbees and turn both large plantforms over to agricultural use
B- Manage the growth of the 'plants' which provide building materials and turn both plantforms over to that
C- Construct a building specifically for use as a workshop on one plantform and use the surrounding land for industrial resources, the other can lie fallow
D- A mixture of the above
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 05, 2006, 11:56:56 am
A, woo!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Martham112 on January 06, 2006, 09:49:49 am
D make them masters of everything!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 08, 2006, 03:08:13 pm
A-4
Everyone loves biotechnology... how predictable... or is it?

The Cryoeltans decide to put the new land to good use by carefully moving some gasbees, Krants and Quart Crabs (yep, I made them up on the spot) to favourable locations and protecting them from predators. Soon they have breeding programmes and feeding scheduals all thought up and the animals begin producing large quantities of food and some useful raw materials. The extra food allows the cryoeltan population to expand significantly and the resources allow them to build more useful tools and better shelters. As a result the Cryoeltans have more leisure time to improve the their lot. A particularly bright group invents a whole new way of doing geometry which helps to build and adjust their optical tools.
It is universally agreed that the arrival of the second plantform was an excellent occurence and decide to attract more, how should they do it?

A- Build a Grand Lighthouse, a beacon to all who will hear! (I mean see :P)
B- Send out a multitude of scouts to recruit
C- Move the plantform around on a great voyage of discovery
D- Make floating balloons with messages on them (yup, its crap but I ran out of ideas!)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 08, 2006, 03:21:54 pm
B, we might find some other cool stuff.

Do the cry-whatever's even have a written language?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Wahh on January 08, 2006, 03:34:37 pm
I agree with Vivec, B, who knows what other useful stuff besides plants we could find.

Of course, we might find a particularly violent tribe just around the corner.  :o
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 09, 2006, 03:06:55 am
I propect of a massive lighthouse sounded cool but I actully agree the scouts could find some really cool stuff other than other races to join them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 09, 2006, 06:14:31 am
i was thinking that the lighthouse might attract not just potential new allies, but also enemies. so i go with B
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Wahh on January 09, 2006, 03:22:56 pm
i was thinking that the lighthouse might attract not just potential new allies, but also enemies. so i go with B

Yeah, but as I have said before, scouts could find enemies, too.  Still, I go with B.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 09, 2006, 03:25:19 pm
12 votes! An all time record :)

B wins by the way

The Cryoeltans decide to send out scouts to find new plantforms to join them, to help travel the distances involved they build small dirigible 'boats' with sails, on which they can ride, they load the boats with rare objects and advanced technology with which to wow prospective allies. A total of 20 boats are launched, each carrying 3 intelligent "civilians" and an escort of 2 light cultists.
Several weeks after they set out, one group sees a bright light in the distance, as they draw nearer they see it to be a lighthouse mounted on a plantform. The scouts approach and see a cryoeltan tribe as advanced as they are, they approach them and explain themselves. The tribe is welcoming and after some persuasion and trading of technology they agree to join our plantform. The large plantform sailsfor some time until they reach our original one. They attach their plantform to the central one as before and integrate with our society, sharing their plans for the lighthouse, which is soon constructed and improved by application of our home brewed geometry. Over the next few months three more plantforms (sans advanced technology, unfortunately) arrive and integrate, as well as a few boats of immigrants from plantforms which didnt want to give up their autonomy. Other plantforms have built lighthouses and together with primitive telescopes, they form the basis of a large system of comunications between the separate tribes. What once resembled a small village clustered on a large forbidding plantform has been transformed into a shining town, surrounded by fertile pasture, crowned with a great lighthouse linking this plantform to others all around. All tens of miles up in the air of course :D.

The Cryoeltans are prospering and want for nought (ye verrily!). They are siezed by the inexplicable urge to explore and discover, how should this urge be channeled?

A- Go up, acend even higher into the atmosphere (but not into space, that would be silly... for now)
B- Go down, return to where the ancient ancestors came from and the hoppers made their nests (who knows what theyll find?)
C- Go out, expand the horizons of the Cryoeltan race as a whole, find new planforms to colonise and new cryoeltans to befriend
D- Go in, journey to the centre of your mind man! Groovy!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Wahh on January 09, 2006, 03:29:46 pm
As much as I think C is the best option, I didn't want to read another, nearly identical post.  Therefore, I think A would also be a useful option because, ultimately, the closer a race is to the sky, the easier it will be to make the jump into space.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 09, 2006, 07:17:58 pm
i see we got the lighthouse no matter what, something you were hoping would win anyway? i choose B for this one.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 09, 2006, 07:32:38 pm
AFter trying to decide between B and D i decided on B lets try and avoid the drug trade.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 09, 2006, 08:06:52 pm
Let's go with B, the hoppers originally liked shiny stuff right? So they would like a shiny nest? Namely, one filled with precious metals?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 10, 2006, 12:59:25 pm
The votes are stuck in a three way tie, someone vote (But not for C)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 10, 2006, 01:01:29 pm
kaching! :) there we go on the vote
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 10, 2006, 02:56:01 pm
er, I voted B earlier and someone went and voted A so its tied again :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 10, 2006, 03:13:46 pm
now theres a tie between A and B for some reason <smacks forehead>. The deadlock will be decided by me tossing a coin. Heads A, Tails B

...heads it is...

The Cryoeltans become intrigued by an old story passed down the generations. One that tells of a race of malevolent screaming creatures who dwelt in the sky and would one day bring destruction to the Cryoeltans. Opinion is divided as to what was meant by this, some cryeoltans are sure that the screamers were simply the stars (which everyone now knows are the lights of Cryoeltans who have died), while others maintain that they were actual entities, possibly some kind of glowing animals that live in the sky. To investigate the story they apply newly gained knowledge of lighter than air gasses, they find that by boiling liquid secreted by the plantform they can trap bouyant gasses. They fill a very large balloon with this gas and construct an observation platform to sit on top and a passenger basket to hang from the bottom, they tether it to the plantform with a long rope and load the ship with the most powerful magnifying lenses they have and also the best and brightest of the town's intellectuals (and some light cultists as guards of course). The balloon climbs higher and higher and the air gets thinner, eventually they come to a band of atmosphere which is as thin as they can tolerate, even by day the sky here is an dark inky blue. They start making observations when they see an awe inspiring sight, a huge Manta-like creature, gliding slowly through the thin air, it regards the cryoeltans with little interest and acends, completely leaving the atmosphere and flying off into space. The Cryoeltans make careful sketches and notes regarding this and begin to let gas out of the balloon so they can decend. As they do this, some of the light cultists begin behaving oddly (having been affected by the radiation from that band of the atmosphere), they move with purpose but seem to do nothing, and they emit unrecognised flashes in strange sequences, as though they were speaking in tongues. When they finally return to the plantform they have calmed down but refuse to tell other Cryoeltans what happened and refuse to link with them as well. They order the construction of a special building in the town in which they may live and study. They establish themselves as 'priests' in the town, an elite within the light cultists, not warriors but sages. It becomes tradition for the Ion Priests to choose exceptional cultists to make a journey to the upper reaches of the atmosphere and experience what they have. It is a mystery why the other cryoeltans on the voyage were not affected, but it is reasoned that they have less developed light emmiting crystals and were therefore poor recievers to whatever religious knowledge was communicated to the Ion Priests.

What will be the basis of the next Cryoeltan technical leap?

A- Love
B- Money
C- Health
D- Happyness  
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 10, 2006, 04:17:49 pm
No offense, but health seem like the only not-stupid choice there. Happiness isn't technology, wealth doesn't particularly matter to them right now, and we don't need any floating love machines.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on January 10, 2006, 04:23:55 pm
yeah A.. floating love machines  :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 10, 2006, 04:42:34 pm
all you need is love
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on January 10, 2006, 05:54:19 pm
I want some floating love machines. Oh, and I voted C.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 11, 2006, 02:20:07 am
It must be love.
Nothing more nothing less love is the best.

Bring on the Love boat platform
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 11, 2006, 08:37:17 am
lol, the Cryoeltan are becoming pretty wierd.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 11, 2006, 09:52:27 am
Smj, you did a decent job looking after the other spore type game on planet spore, why dont you resurrect the Inceptus? I'm sure Holstein wont mind. Youd need to start a new thread for it to be able to use the poll counter but you could pick up where cow left off.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 11, 2006, 11:20:50 am
heh, thanks :) you're one of the occasional guests over there I guess.

I'll see if I can salvage that spore story by Holstiencow.

ok, I posted it up, I hope you don't mind I use the same poll question as you are using :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2006, 03:42:45 am
I apologise for the late update. Circumstances beyond my control and yadda yadda yadda...

A wins. Love?!? Whos been screwing with this thing!

Since the Cryoeltans have no sex, itll have to be a different kind of love...

The chief Ion Priest returns from a long meditation in the upper atmosphere and announces that a large proportion of the Cryoeltan society has been neglected, he speaks of the young. Until now, the Cryoeltans had simply exploded and shed their offspring into a pool and forgotten about them until they had developed gasbags and floated out of the water and joined the colony. The Priest proposes that an active role be taken in the rearing of the droplets to adulthood. This idea is so revolutionary and off the wall that the Cryoeltans find themselves unable to oppose it. New birthing pools are constructed in the temple that the Ion priests have built and members of the town are appointed the gardians of the young. Food is carefully processed and added to the liquid in the pools for the droplets to absorb. When they get larger, the droplets are moved to a new pool so they dont pose a threat to their siblings and once they begin to develop crystals they are gradually taught the basic skills they need for survival. Another change brought about by this is that the Cryoeltans start being given names. The Priests assure the other cryoeltans that this is important, but none of them can fathom why. Since the names are in the Cryoeltan language we will have to use a description of the name. The Chief priest is known as Indigo Rapid Pulse, with the other Cryoeltans also recieving similar names such as IR Long Burst, Green Erratic Flashes and Microwave Wide Beam.
This social upheaval vastly increases the survival rate of young Cryoeltans and they grow into stronger, more intelligent adults. It is decided that this new way of thinking should be shared with all Cryoeltans around the world... how?

A- Broadcast the good news day and night on the lighthouse
B- Send out missionaries, Ion priests and light cultists
C- Send out the Cryoeltans who recieved care as young to demonstrate the effectiveness of this technique
D- A combination of the three (be aware that this will be a serious drain on resources and may hold back progress in other areas somewhat) 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 12, 2006, 06:51:43 am
the best way to spread a good idea is to show people that the change will not be harmful to the people of the old ways. they best way to do that is to show them the change directly, send out the new Cryoeltans, but also an Ion Priest with them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 12, 2006, 11:34:30 am
Krakow, do you set your poll to only show results after someone has voted or show results to anybody? I'm just not sure how it should be set for the best results.

oh yea, I voted D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 12, 2006, 11:36:36 am
Ive got it to show anyone, i dont think it really makes much difference
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 13, 2006, 01:38:50 pm
C is the ultimate letter!

The Cryoeltans prepare some of the "New brood" to show the other plantforms what theyre missing, and by popular demand a few Ion prisets and light cultists go with them (not as many as would have gone had you picked D mind). They equip their ships with supplies, bid their adieus and sail off in the direction  of the nearest lighthouses. The first plantforms they come to are highly open to new ideas as they are the ones which most often communicted with our plantform via the lighthouse system, they gladly convert to Ionism, a Priest from our plantform takes up residence on theirs and begins training more, this core group of support will be useful soon. Beyond these plantforms there is a large expanse of very little, after some days of sailing the missionaries sight a lighthouse and move toward it purposefully, once there however they discover that these Cryoeltans arent as open to new ideas. It seems that around the same time as our group sent explorers up, they sent explorers down in a special submarine type capsule. What they saw down on the surface formed the for them the basis of a totally different "religion". They find the idea of rearing young specially as prime heresy. They believe in a sort of rugged, purist, spartan way of life. They demand that all rearing f young cease and that they be left in the most dangerous pools so that the ones which emerge become hardened warriors, they also find the idea of 'names' highly offensive for some reason. At this point the discussions become quite "bright" and the leader of the tribe orders our Cryoeltans be captured and locked up. While our group (led by Erratic Tourquise pulse) sustain several casualties they manage to fight their way back to the boat and sail off as fast as they can, their opponents hot on their trail. They finally lose them and find refuge ion the plantform of one of their newly converted allies, they explain what happened and quickly send a message by lighthouse to all allied plantforms to be on the lookout for the "Dark Ones" as they have been dubbed.
Several think-tanks are formed on each plantform to figure out how to deal with the threat:

A- Consolidate ALL the allied plantforms into one Super-plantform complex
B- Train as many light cultists as possible and develop weapons that normal Cryoeltans can use as well.
C- Sail all the plantforms far away to the south, where they can escape the Dark Ones
D- Triple the fortifications of each plantform to make them super impervious 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 13, 2006, 02:39:59 pm
I'd think that D would put more weight on the plantforms and cause them to lose altitude and sink a little. doing C wouldn't do much good because they'd have a chance to get stronger even though we have a chance to regroup and gaiin strength.

I'd say B
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 13, 2006, 09:30:16 pm
B seems like a good idea we already have some super sweet weapons effectively increasing our army seems like a good idea. We have already taken on various others and such as the hoppers and we are already many tribes working together this new education system should help us develop some decent weapons and how to use them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 15, 2006, 02:21:54 am
I think that B is the best way to go.

I also decided to draw a Cryoeltan for your 'contest'. I don't think they have legs... but you talked about them needing balloons and stuff, and why would they live on plateforms if they just floated? So I gave them legs in this drawing. Although you can just as easily imagine that they arn't there. I also gave it 'eyes' at the top...

Anyways, this is a depiction of a member of the Cryoeltan Militia. Lights are flashing, and it is armed with a mirror and a flashlight. You can see it here: http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?it4pwoh91bw
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 15, 2006, 10:05:00 am
Thanks for the pic and all but too many colours! In my mind the Cryoeltans inhabit a sort of pale blue/white world (they do live in the sky after all) and as yet they dont use shields or battery operated torches :P. Some more people should have a stab at drawing the cryoeltans, I'll choose the one that most fits the picture in my head and some sort of honourable in-game mention will be awarded as a prize :).

Right B it is.

The Cryoeltans split off from their think tanks and set to work training more light cultists from the population and teaching he less gifted Cryoeltans how to best make use of their more limited light capabilities.(cue magnificent seven style montage of grizzled veterans teaching clueless villagers how to fight and so forth)
At the same time the brains of the outfit shut themselves into the workshop building and start experimenting, they come up with a number of highly useful inventions to help in a fight. The first is a sort of giant goggle that the light cultists can tie over their crystal cluster, it acts as a lens and allows the cultists to focus a blast of light into a tight spot, like a kid with a magnifying glass, it only works at a specific range but the light cultists have good depth perception (dont ask how, they only have one 'eye' :P) and learn when to unleash this attack. The next invention is a large mirrored 'shield' which is light enough for a cryoeltan to hold, this should turn the tables on any perimeter defenses the enemy has erected (towers, death rays etc), this research also turns up a sort of shiny, mercury like paste that can be smeared on the skin of a cryoeltan to reduce damage from photo-weapons. The third invention is... a big stick with a hard crystal on the end that can be used to bludgeon the enemy. This is really thinking outside the box for a Cryoeltan as they tend to rely on light for attacking, the 'commoners' are taught with some difficulty how to hit things quite hard (cryoeltans dont have much strength in their arms either). These discoveries are conveyed to the other nearby plantforms (although the hitting things concept takes a while to explain) by lighthouse.
Some weeks later a report comes in from a nearby plantform that a Dark missionary and some guards tried to invade their plantform, they were easily repelled by a show of strength from peasants and Cultists alike, but one managed to escape. This enemy will undoubtedly tell its fellows of the position of our ally and may even betray the secret of hitting things. The cryoeltans brace themselves for an attack.

A- Move our plantform nearer to the location of the one that was attacked, order the others to do so too and prepare for a stand-off
B- tell the plantform that was attacked to move nearer to our current position and use the time it takes the enemy to find us again to fortify some more
C- Build some warships, improved boats with platforms for guards and deploy them to defend the attacked plantform
D- gather the plantforms together and stage a mass exodus to somewhere... who know where? The enemy may destroy itself given time. This will allow us more time for sociall progress etc. but the enemy may just spend the extra time gathering strength. Its a gamble.       
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 15, 2006, 10:09:24 am
C: We need a navy!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 15, 2006, 11:15:14 am
Krakow wants us to put D, bet he's got good ideas for it, but I'm voting C.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 15, 2006, 02:21:47 pm
I dont mind, if you vote D i'll make something up on the spot. Although I do have a good scenario for the near future, possibly at the start of the civ stage ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 16, 2006, 01:52:41 pm
C wins. You guys dont seem to be discussing things as much as on the other spore threads, what gives? ;)

The Cryeoltans quickly form some thinktanks and they get to work... thinking! After some days of exchanging ideas between them and mulling it over the thinktanks all develop vital parts of a defense plan.
The thinktank started by Yellow Intense Strobe draws up plans for an improved skyboat, this one is much larger than the old one, a large donut shaped platform has a large gas bladder running through the centre meaning guards can be posted 360 degrees around the outside
The thinktank started by Aqua Dim Flash designs a platform which sits on top of the gas bladder. Modified from one of the perimeter tower designs, it allows a light cultist to attack in a full circle and can hold either a reflector or a "death ray".
UV Brightening Pulse's think tank put a brain-bending new spin on the pointy stick theory and figure out a technique for popping the ships of enemies, there is resistance to learning it but they get the idea across eventually.

5 ships are built, each about three meters in diameter and 2 meters in height and are deployed toward the plantform nearest to enemy territory. Here it is met by 3 more ships built by other plantforms. A few days later the enemy are sighted, they bring on their old-style ships a small army of normal cryoeltans, some of them having mastered the art of hitting things with sticks and about 20 of their version of light cultists. Their aggressive intentions are clear our ships move against them, and the air is soon filled with bright flashes. One enemy ship bursts into flames and plunges to the ground suffereing a hit from a death ray. the enemy change tactics and abandon their ships, attempting to board and take over ours, however they find their sticks useless against our own cryoeltan's mirrored shields, which also deflect attcks back at the enemy. Most of the enemy are soon killed, the rest are rounded up.
A strong willed Ion priest carefully interfaces with them and learns of their tribe and their intentions. They have a mini empire spanning around 15 individual plantforms (they see joining plantforms as somehow abominable) all taken by force from other cryoeltans who refused to convert to their way of life, despite their reluctance to care for their young they have a strange advantage of strength in numbers... quite mysterious. the Ion priest probes further and finds that they take their instructions from a leader who dwells in a hut on their main plantform, he refuses to interface with other cryoeltans and seems to act in a way very alien to the other cryoeltans. before the priest can probe further the captives all spontaneously and inexplicably die.
A plan must be formulated to rid the world of this evil tribe...

A- a steady war of attrition, take one plantform at a time
B- Direct assault on the main plantform
C- a more tactical gambit, use a diversion to lure defenses away from the main plantform and take another force there
D- Spec ops, use subterfuge to perform a surgical strike on the leader (OMG Solid Sn4ke!!111!!!), cut off the head and the body will die. Cryoeltans dont have snakes on their planet so they cant actually use that analogy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 16, 2006, 01:56:49 pm
*discussing* *discussing* *discussing*  ;)


Anyway, C sounds good, because I doubt the enemy is smart enough to understand that tactic.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 17, 2006, 06:21:43 am
Only four votes!?! this is appaling. i blame these upstart new spore threads... everyone vote. Follow Vivecs good example ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: LadyM on January 17, 2006, 06:28:30 am
I must have voted because I can't vote again.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 17, 2006, 06:54:26 am
it was either C or D, but i picked C
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 17, 2006, 02:39:29 pm
update will come tommorow, this is an imporatant stage and I want to do it justice. Now, I'm too tired. Yawn. In the mean time draw some pictures or something.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 18, 2006, 02:44:12 am
I vote C as well these dark ones really don't seem like they are very strong in the intelligence department and seem to prefer brute force to get there way so even some basic tactics should be whats needed.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 18, 2006, 01:27:19 pm
Okey-dokey. C it is (Wh4t no S011D Sn4k3??//??? :P)

From his probing of the prisoners the Ion Priest Indigo Rapid Bright notes that they arent too clued up on tactics and quickly tells others of a plan. A fleet of boats crewed by 'regulars' will hang around near one the remote enemy plantforms and make itself look threatening. This will lure the forces of the enemy away from their HQ. Indigo will then spearhead a force of armed Ion Priests and light cultists to capture or maybe even assasinate the leader in his sinister hut.
The plan goes well, the fleet is deployed and a day later scouts report activity from the enemy, they are massing a force of thuggish cryoeltans with sticks. As they appear on the horizon the commander of the fleet sends a message on a small portable lighthouse fitted to one of the boats. Indigo picks it up from his location and sens back the OK (a rapidly flashing strobelight slowly increasing in wavelength from UV to microwave).
The fleet begins to engage the forces of the enemy, destroying some of their ships with death rays. The enemy quickly abandon ship and swarm towards our battle lines...
Meanwhile, indigo's strike force reach the enemy HQ, using the ship-board death ray and the combined might of several cultists they quickly take out the enemies main perimeter tower, they board the plantform through a gap in the line of sight of the enemy defenses caused by the destruction of the tower...
The battle rages, our side takes casualties but they dole out some pain in return, the enmy regroup some distance away and charge...
The task force battles its way through the guards at the enemy HQ, light cultists Red Sine Bright and Aqua Intense Flash sacrifice themselves to save indigo from a Bezerk enemy light cultist, the enemy are behaving in a way cryoeltans usually do not. They finally reach the hut in which the leader of the Dark ones dwells. Indigo instructs the light cultists to wait outside and enters with the other priests...
Our line opens and the enemy charge through, the cryoeltans quickly close the hole, they have the Dark ones surrounded, they move in for the kill...
Inside the hut Indigo sees the Dark leader.. dead, but also horribly mutilated, his shell is dark in colour and several blunt spikes protrude from inside, intead of the clear oily fluid usually found inside cryoeltans he bleeds a dark tar-like substance. Moving through a curtain indigo sees the Monolith. A Huge slab of flawless black rock, images flash through his crystalline brain but he is unable to make sense of them, he resists the dark influence of the monolith and raises his staff. He brings it down on the monolith but it has no effect. He flicks down his visor and treats it to a blast of the brightest light he can manage, instructing the other priests to do the same. Thick plumes of black smoke pour out of the monolith, it slowly melts and then evaporates. the images in the minds of the priests become more disjointed and finally stop.
The monolith had lain undisturbed, buried in the surface of the plantform since it had fallen and taken control of the Hoppers, thousands of years ago, befor the Cryoeltans had achieved sapience. At that time it had been unable to exert its control over the cryoeltans because of their totally alien crystal brains. Over the years however it had been adapting until finally one day not long ago it lashed out and ensnared the mind of a simple tribal cryoeltan, it used this puppet to try and subjugate the rest of the cryoeltans for an unknown purpose. The question remains, who sent it and for what reason?
Anyway, the battle is won and the Cryoeltans celebrate as much as they know how, statues are erected in honour of those that fell defending freedom and so forth. Our tribe is such a dominant and imporatnat force now that it is agreed that they have entered an entirely new age. Over the next few decades new plantforms join our main complex until it begins to reseble a bustling City ;). The Cryoeltan civilisation (wink wink) now begins to embark on a great project, to demonstrate the graetness of Cryoeltan endeavor.

A- The Great Telecope of Crimson-Crimson-White
B- The Vast Library of Plantform Aqua
C- The Mighty Temple to Indigo the Hero ;)
D- The Amazing Ship of Distant Horizons 

phew, long update :P    
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 18, 2006, 01:33:34 pm
is there going to be a benefit behind each one? because I bet you are planning that :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 18, 2006, 01:35:46 pm
You betcha!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 18, 2006, 01:42:10 pm
yea well:

A: pretty obvious considering the religion/philosophy of these guys, they could use it to further that stuff and develop thier astronomy. Also don't forget that strange manta-shaped creature they saw in the high atmosphere.

B: Sorta like the great library of Alexandria, basically collection and expansion of knowledge. I hope they don't make the same mistake with the Great Library of Alexandria burning down.

C: dunno what benefit Krakow Sam is going to do here. it seems more like a monument kinda thing.

D: exploration obviously.

I haven't decided which one to vote on yet.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 18, 2006, 03:16:34 pm
Don't feel bad Krako... IMO you have the best spore RPG on this forum, I like how you've revealed the whole monolith thing recently. Its like a really cool story which you have planned out. Not just a stream of coscienceness made up on the spot by the 'DM'. Cool.

Anyways, I really want to re-inject Cryo culture with more of their kooky star-religion... So D! By the way, do they have a written language yet? I do want to see a library down the line at some point.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 19, 2006, 02:33:09 am
Why thank you, although I do make up all the details on the spot :P

I have a feeling you might be seeing a written language for the Cryoeltans quite soon (wink wink). They do have one, but as yet it has no form and exists in language limbo. It was the flowering of the plantform which inspired tham to write things down so we'll all just assume theyve been writing things down for a while now.;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 19, 2006, 03:02:12 am
I like the telescope and looking back out into space and the sky seeing it interested them so many generations ago.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 19, 2006, 10:04:14 am
I really didnt expect the temple to win :P, especially not by that margin.

Oh well, here goes...

It has been 50 years (cryoeltan or terran? Who cares?) since the great victory against the dark ones and the great cultural revolution. Indigo the high priest has just reached the end of his natural life and goes to the birthing pools to die. The Cryoeltans regret losing their inspirational leader and form think-tanks to decide how to honour his life and his eventual death. Over almost a year plans are drawn up for a mighty temple. Covering almost an entire plantform and kept aloft by massive Gas-balloons to make up for its massive bulk the temple takes the form of a huge tower-like structure, on the aniversary of the victory of the cryoeltans, the sun will shine directly down a shaft in the building and illuminate a statue of Indigo. Over the rest of the year the temple will be dazzlingly lit by a system of carefully angled reflectors. Inside will be a quarters for the most senior Ion priests, a birthing pool, a chamber with a special magnifier for viewing the night sky, a modest library (yes, if you had voted for the library or the telescope they would have had similar primitive versions of the other options), a balloon which acends into the upper atmosphere so new Ion priests can be trained and most importantly a special infirmary room, Cryoeltans who are sick or injured can take a "Pilgrimage" to the temple to take advantage of the intense light and the healing expertise of the specialised Ion healers.
The Temple takes 10 years to finish and uses the expertise and resources of more than twenty plantforms and plantform complexes. When finished it attracts cryoeltans from all over the known sky and consequently becomes the central location of the Cryoeltan "Government" almost like the Vatican of Medieval and Rennaisance Europe. The area around the temple becomes a sort of rest area for pilgrims and a system of tokens is used to barter for goods and services, this is new. The Cryoeltans have never before had an economy of this sort although at this point it is limited to the area around the temple itself. It therefore becomes a trade hub for the civilisation, as goods are exchanged between plantforms. Plant materials from Tangerine plantform, Animals and animal products from Yellow plantform, manufactured goods from Blue plantform and state of the art optics from White plantform.
The temple has blessed the Cryoeltans with medicine, government and a basic economy how should these be expanded.

A- Invest more time in medicine (predictable results)
B- Put more thought into government and administration
C- Expand the fledgling economy
D- Pump time and resources into an as yet undecided high-risk surprise venture (Disclaimer, my imagination could fail me at this point and it could totally suck, you have been warned)   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Salazar on January 19, 2006, 11:03:15 am
Hmm, seems like theyve developped their first hero cult. Maybe this will be the base for a whole new religion?
I dont think c would fit, they don't exactly seem to be supercapitalistic.
I say D -  Maybe They can send a ship or something and spread their new highculture.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 19, 2006, 01:32:28 pm
B, because as you may or may not be able to tell, Government needs a lot of time and rethinking and such.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 19, 2006, 02:12:56 pm
I honestly have no idea what sort of medical stuff the Cryoeltan would use other than for physical ailments such as broken limbs, cracks in the shell, etc.

but anyway, since thier government sounds relatively simple compared to today, I'd say we develop thier economy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 19, 2006, 09:06:51 pm
D.

An idea for the high-risk adventure: An Ionist oblate (clergy-in-training) is ready for his first ascent into the upper atmosphere. As he goes up, somthing goes wrong and he goes up higher then he was supposed to: nearer to the manta-things. When he comes back down he is convinced that the spirit of Indigo spoke to him. The vision tells him that the mantas are actually plantforms of 'the ascended'. That is, spirits of passed Cryos or somthing. This oblate eventually founds The Indigothic Religion based on his visions. He writes them down in a beautiful book known as 'The Illumination Indigo Shone Upon Me' (In Cryo Speech). Anyways, this religion is so queer to traditional Ionists (The stars are in the sky! The stars are evil! How can anyone as good as Indigo be in the sky?!)  that he is basically shunned from society. He and his faithful followers are banished to a colony-plantform somewhere far off. It is there that the oblate recieves his final revelation. He must go into the sky and join Indigo forevermore. So he builds a baloon, and goes off into the upper atmosphere. The Indigothis, unable to stand the persecution, all decide to follow. They build a giant balloon... and what do they really discover?

Edit: Maybe even the oblate could be one of the blobs created in Indigo's death... Ooooh!

As for writing, perhaps they do it in dark-rooms of some sort (like photographers).
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 20, 2006, 02:20:28 am
Thats a pretty good idea, the flaw being that the cryoeltans have already dismissed the evil stars theory as superstition and believe that the stars are their ancestors. Otherwise thats pretty cool. If anyone has any more suggestions, PM me so its still a surprise for everyone else if I decide to use it. I will give credit where its due :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 20, 2006, 12:00:57 pm
D- bah! Why must you always test my creative powers!?!

The Cryoeltans often turned their attention to the sky, clearly it is the resting place of all that is good. Until one day recently, the Ion monk Limegreen Sawtooth Blip (the chief astronomer at the temple) turned his lenses toward the ground, the only thing the Cryoeltans remember about the planet surface is what they can piece together from old writings found buried on planforms, Black Demons feature predominantly in these reports. Lime however sees no demons, only large mound like structures which have clearly been abandoned for centuries but he does see several curious species of animal, some interesting looking plants and some deposits of a strange shiny mineral that has never been seen before (at least not by sentient cryoeltans). At first he theorises that this land below is a new kind of massive plantform but turning his lenses to the horizon he sees that it is in fact the 'Bottom' of the sky. Consultations with elders in the temple cement this fact and plans are made to explore this wonderful new place.
At first they put an amethyst crab in a basket and lower it on a super-long rope down to the surface, they are somewhat bemused to find it has been totally crushed when they bring it back up. Eventually (after several months) they design a chamber which protects from the huge pressure of the atmosphere at that level and build one large enough for a Cryoeltan to ride in. A particularly ingenious Ion priest tinkerer devises a cup on a stick which can be moved around from inside and pick up samples from the bottom of the sky by means of a rubbery sealant which keeps the pod airtight.
Lime has the honour of being the first cryoeltan to decend in the pod and brings back several samples of plants and rocks, to his dismay his attempt to bring back a starnge sponge-like creature failed as it exploded about half-way through the ascent. The plants seem to do alright however but it is discovered that they must be kept at a warm temperature to grow properly and a special "greenhouse" is built in the temple, the minerals are found to have interesting optical properties and are fasioned into ornaments for the temple.
Over the next year a number of improved decenders are built around the temple complex and begin ferrying exotic plants and minerals up to the temple, these are traded by the Ion priests for food and luxuries from other plantforms.

Other events of note this year: A short-lived plague strikes the magenta plantform killing around 30 cryoeltans, craftsman Crimson Beam developes a new technique for carving statues and becomes wealthy through trade, Ion priest Yellow Bright Burst develops a new geometric theorem regarding the scattering of light and a team of inquisitive Cryoeltans uncover an ancient tablet describing when best to harvest different types of edible plant, they trade it for access to the Temple library.

A- Do some more exploring
B- Invest more time in government
C- Develop astronomy more
D- Further develop the new industry of "Skybed Trawling"   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 20, 2006, 12:06:53 pm
I guess thier planets atmosphere would be really thick if a creature that lives maybe a mile up in the atmosphere would be crushed by the atmospheric pressure when sent down.

B for the heck of it.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 20, 2006, 02:42:02 pm
B. While it is not that exciting (and is thus likely going to resultin in a boring update...) I feel thay the Cryos need further central organization before they can engage in truely monumental projects.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Detoxicated on January 20, 2006, 08:51:05 pm
B - They are growing very intelligent, basically asking for government
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 21, 2006, 01:55:27 pm
Theres a tie between B and D so rather than choosing or waiting for another vote, I'll just make like ahem, someone, and make a combo upgrade. Do not abuse the system, any suspicious future ties will not be treated to a double triple or quadruple upgrade :P.

The administrators at the temple complex have found that they can do very well for themselves from the meagre items they trawl from the surface so they commision some budding thinkers to discover a way to better harvest objects from the surface. Inspiration comes from an unusual new submission to the temple library. Devised by a think-tank on some backwater plantform it explores the mathematics and geometry of simple machines (levers, pulleys etc) which have not yet been put to much use by the cryoeltans. This new knowledge enables the construction of large crane like arms, on the end of these are big grabbing components which can be used to pick large objects up from the surface. These are promptly built and installed over several months.
The output of surface products from the temple is quite large and several cryoeltans notice there is a large amount of waste, there are definite discrepensies in the amount of stuff being trawled up and the amount being traded. They propose a system of checks and balances to regulate the flow of goods around the cryoeltan civilisation, the library is extended and staffed with able scribes who push paper, or in this case etched opaque crystals, to keep track of affairs. All new developements in the field of 'law' are sent to the planforms via the lighthouse system and efficiency is maintained... for now.

In other news the inhabitants of Puce plantform witness a low flying space manta, they see it as an omen to harvest their crop of crystals now. They are proved right when a small meteor lands in the middle of their field.
A cryoeltan in the temple complex reaches the record age of 105 before exploding, it is old enough to remeber the completion of the temple.
A new type of plant trawled up from the surface and grown in the temple's greenhouses becomes the must have food for wealthy cryoeltan artisans despite the fact it has no taste and holds no nutritional value.

A- Develop astronomy
B- More exploring
C- pump resources into the arts
D- pump resources into industry (or what industry there is)

 

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 21, 2006, 01:58:56 pm
A. I really want to figure out what those mantas are.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 22, 2006, 12:09:47 pm
A. I really want to figure out what those mantas are.
ok, first of all. You call that explaining your motives!?! ^ 7 of you voted and only caltrop here decided he would bother to explain. Shame on all of you (except caltrop) :P

Well, unanimous A it is

Utilising interesting new geometric theories recently traded to the library for surface goods, the astronomers at the temple build a powerful new telescope (well, they design it and get some other cryoeltans to build it. Well, they dont design it either but they commision it so thats ok). This one uses a large smooth parabolic mirror instead of a lens, the mirror is coated with an alloy of metals trawled up from the surface anbd is one of a kind throughout the cryoeltan civilisation.
The chief astronomer tentatively places his 'eye' into the viewing hole. The telescope has been pointed at a star which they are pretty certain is the soul of one of the light cultists which gave up its life to save Indigo from the dark ones 200 years ago. From calculations based on the dogma of years (that the souls dwell around 100km above the level of plantforms, and are around the size of a house) the telescope should enable the astronomer to see clearly the form of the soul of the departed cryoeltan. He is shocked to find that all he can see is a large circle. The others verify this and they form a think-tank in an attemt to puzzle out what the stars are if not souls. They eventually pick up on the fact that the light they emmit is very similar to that of the Cryoeltan sun (a bluish star slightly larger than Earth's Sun). They eagerly tell the high priest of the temple the amazing news: stars are just like the sun, they may even have planets orbiting them.
They are rather surprised to find that the other priests arent happy with this explanation, they are very surprised when the other priests smash the telescope which the astronmers spent so long building and they are incredibly surprised when the priests round them up, put them on a ship with minimal supplies and send them out into the world.

Now we must make a choice, who will we now follow and infuence the actions of in this thread?

A- The temple priests
B- the administartors at the temple (no say in religion but autonomous when it comes to law)
C- A loose coalition of plantform leaders
D- the banished astronomers
(I wonder which one will get the most votes ;) Meh, I'm feeling uncreative today)   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Erinas on January 22, 2006, 12:43:24 pm
You need to reset the poll.  I can't vote yet! :'(
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 22, 2006, 12:51:17 pm
Hmm... this is a hard one. Does this mean we'll be following this group for the rest of the thread, or just the next 2-3 updates?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 22, 2006, 02:08:10 pm
<Tap side of nose and grin knowingly to conceal fact I havent thought that far ahead>

We'll be following that group until i decide the novelty has worn off, it could be 2 posts away, it could never happen, woooo!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Salazar on January 22, 2006, 02:20:34 pm
D - i think, they're just most sympathic to me.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 22, 2006, 02:43:30 pm
<Tap side of nose and grin knowingly to conceal fact I havent thought that far ahead>

We'll be following that group until i decide the novelty has worn off, it could be 2 posts away, it could never happen, woooo!

Well then, I say D.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Wahh on January 22, 2006, 04:07:53 pm
We have to follow the astronomers, the lone beacon of truth in a world of ignorance. ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 23, 2006, 08:29:22 am
D is the most interesting so far, a disenfranchised group, cast off from the others. Excommunicated, so to speak. This will bring in plenty of new opportunities for growth. Or they'll just die quickly...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 23, 2006, 08:31:49 am
OK, 9 for D, and none for the rest. Time for the update.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 23, 2006, 09:05:25 am
I will in a couple of hours, I cant say that the voting surprises me in the least. It is necessary to keep up the pretext of democracy though...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 23, 2006, 09:08:25 am
Yeah, like ten people are suddenly gonna vote "A" or something.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 23, 2006, 09:10:16 am
someone could just quickly create ten different accounts and vote on what they want to offset the rest... not that i would want to do that...at all...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 23, 2006, 09:11:45 am
And then get all of them banned by Steve.

Multiple accounts is forbidden right?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 23, 2006, 10:44:54 am
Ok, an unsurprisingly unanimous D.

The outcast astronomers wonder the skies for several days. They can survive for a long time without food by photosynthesising but eventually they will need essential trace elements and will begin to get ill. They keep sailing in their dispair until they sight some lights on the horizon, they get closer and see a largeish plantform on which has been erected a small shanty town. They discover that it has been erected by some rough, tough frontiers-cryoeltans and some accountant types they brought along to make sure things run smoothly. They intend to use the plantform as a ranch for a newly domesticated type of gasbag based animal that we can call the Gascow the hide of which can be made into many hardwearing items of clothing and such. They are also prospecting for a crystalline substance which grows just under the surface of several plantforms and has experienced a large artificial demand recently (it isnt useful but its rare and can be used as currency, like gold).
The astronomers explain their plight to the colonists and are suprised to find them understanding, the very reason they were out here was to escape the crazy laws the temple has been passing recently. The whole system had become a beurocratic nightmare in the last few years.
With the support of the colonists the astronomers begin constructing another telescope to continue their research, paying their dues to the fledgling community by helping with civil engineering and infrastructure projects.
Within a few months a working town is established (Which is suspicously like a starting settlement you might get in an RTS, it has some farms, a mine, a town hall and some leaders and a means of producing basic worker units ;)) The astronomers decide that the truth must out and decide to challenge the authority of the temple, but first they must build their strength underground and infiltrate first the independant platforms, then those controlled by the beurocrats, then finally the temple complex itself.
What should be the first step on the road to glory?

A- Improve the town's defenses
B- Improve the town's infrastructure (more resources and communication capabilities at our disposal)
C- Start producing soldiers
D- Start training spies to infiltrate other towns
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 23, 2006, 11:05:04 am
should be pretty cool and interesting to follow these guys, and if those settlers wanted to escape from the oppression of the temple, I'm sure there will be others. I also suspect that the small empire that the temple controls will eventually collapse in one way or another and break up.

also, just how big is the town and the surrounding area? because I know the empire that was created is alot larger than a town, I think.

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 23, 2006, 11:13:30 am
if it's a frontier town, the Temple people would not really be interested in it yet. So A is not really a problem yet. C is similar in it's own right, and they are hardly strong enough yet to think about D, so B. They need to gain more strength in their won ways before they think about anything more, maybe gaining more knowledge and proof they need to promote their beliefs to the others so they will believe easier, thus gaining the support of the common cryoeltan.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 23, 2006, 11:18:33 am
yea, I was thinking about B as well, but wasn't sure about the size of the town.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Salazar on January 23, 2006, 11:36:48 am
B - We'll certainly need more ressources to challenge the Empire.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 23, 2006, 01:00:57 pm
The plantform is roughly circular and has a radius of about 2km. Our good friend Pi tells us that this means an area of 12.5 square km. Not too shabby. The town is large enough to house 100 or so colonists and miscellaneos hangers on. In addition there is the observatory our friends the astronomers built (if this were an RTS all technologies would be researched here and each time we moved to a new plantform they would have to all be researched again for no good reason) and a small workshop used for refining the cow and crystal products. There is a small shipyard which has so far been used to construct two large, high capacity cargo frigates for trade which have started bringing in a decent amount of profit as well as tools and luxuries which cant be grown or manufactured on our plantform.
I hope that clarifies matters :). 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 23, 2006, 05:38:45 pm
The town is large enough to house 100 or so colonists and miscellaneos hangers on. In addition there is the observatory our friends the astronomers built (if this were an RTS all technologies would be researched here and each time we moved to a new plantform they would have to all be researched again for no good reason) and a small workshop used for refining the cow and crystal products.

That's a good phrase.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Flamester_ on January 23, 2006, 06:03:03 pm
Like Viviec said 8 for B none for rest so we can safely say B WINS so hurry up with the update.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Erinas on January 23, 2006, 06:30:35 pm
We Aren't very varied are we?  I vote as well, but I was tempted to vote something else for varieties sake.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 24, 2006, 03:36:08 am
B. Why do they have to infiltrate the hierarchy of the Ionist Temple? Why can't they just come out and openly preach their heresy? Its worked on earth, why not on Cryoeltea?  ;)

Besides, we need the Indigothic Religion, now, alright?  :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 24, 2006, 07:39:48 am
B. Why do they have to infiltrate the hierarchy of the Ionist Temple? Why can't they just come out and openly preach their heresy? Its worked on earth, why not on Cryoeltea?  ;)

Besides, we need the Indigothic Religion, now, alright?  :P
Yeah on earth it took hundreds of years for those stupid tactics to work...

Youll have to wait for Indigothism. We're currently in an era equivalent to the late Roman empire (well less militant obviously... and no barbarians at the gates and Emperors fiddling while Rome burns). Eventually we'll reach something nearer the renaissance and then youll have your religious revolution, k? ::)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 24, 2006, 07:52:02 am
but i want my religious revolution now!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 24, 2006, 10:08:00 am
Right, obvious chocie B.

Our little mining town sets to work (cue montage of people building things). The Astronomers provide design specs for surface trawlers and two are soon built, we now have "exotic resources" required to construct advanced buildings weapons and armour. Other Cryoeltans build a sail mechanism so the plantform can be steered in case of trouble and a lighthouse is built to reply to any communiques we may recieve from nearby plantforms. The workshop is expanded to make use of new resources and as a result of tinkering there a new technology is discovered: Metal armor. In the past armor for the cryoeltans has been made of hides but the refining of a crystal brought up from the surface has led to the creation of a lightweight and very tough armour which is also reflective to defend against light attacks. The new technology is utilised in the creation of a brand new warrior caste composed of light adept colonists. The strength they posses as a result of tough manual labour in the colony coupled with light powers on par with that of temple cultists makes them a force to be feared. A name? The Silicon Knights ;) (OMG Met4l G3ar $0lid!111!!(one)!).
Ok, we have infrastructure and the basis for some snazzy elite units, what next?

A- Train as many Silicon knights as we can (we currently only support a force of 10)
B- Try to get another plantform to join our cause (by any means)
C- Upgrade defenses
D- Upgrade the observatory
 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 24, 2006, 10:23:06 am
it's good that we now have competent warriors, but i don't think we have a need to raise an army yet. We are starting to compete with the Temple just by being another source for surface goods. So the Temple will surely hear about us soon, if not already. By trade, the nearer plantforms should be easy to ally just from the benefits they receive from being close to us. So no special alliance work needs to be done much. The trade is doing that for us. i would upgrade the defenses some. We are making waves and in a way opposing the Temple's power just by being another source of surface goods, so they will come around eventually, so we should be ready. Upgrading the observatory would be good too, however. But i choose C, it's better to start early on defenses while we know the other army is far away, rather than frantically try to build up while they are on our doorstep. it's hard to build and fight at the same time.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 24, 2006, 01:26:49 pm
We arent the sole competitor with the temple for surface goods, several developed plantforms have trawlers. The temple doesnt actually aknowledge us for what we are yet, they know of the colony but not that they are in cahoots with the astronomers. Just to play devil's advocate: In a time of no war the temple may view the erection (snigger) of defenses as suspicious... or they may not
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 24, 2006, 01:31:21 pm
well i was running under the idea that the Temple was the only ones who had the trawlers, or at least where everyone went to for trade. I don't know where i got that idea though. So we would easily noticed by encroaching on their economy. However, defenses could gain the Temple's attention, but even the Temple has defenses too right? and we are on a frontier plantform, who's to say what other hostile things may be found on the frontier that we would need defending against?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 24, 2006, 02:53:20 pm
Yes, excellent. Be indecisive! :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 25, 2006, 01:42:46 pm
Okey day, science upgrade it is.

Using special materials from the surface the astronomers upgrade their telescope. It is now more powerful than the one that was smashed at the temple. They soon begin to research the stars anew and can also show other what theyve found.
Some traders from a nearby platform are invited to see for themselves that the stars are just like the sun some tiume later. They leave vowing to spread the word to their own and other plantforms.
The enhanced observatory can also be angled to spy on other plantforms and reveal the movements of ships. That might come in handy later.
The upgrade of the observatory also sparks a renewed interest in all types of science and technology on the plantform. In developing new telescope parts the astronomers invent an improved visor which they incorporate into the design of the Silicon knights. Various other mundane enhancements also generally improve the quality of life of the colonists and the economy of our town.

Now what?

A- Get another plantform to physically join ours
B- train soldiers and go on the offensive
C- Build defenses
D- Metal Gear Solid
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 25, 2006, 04:55:26 pm
What does D mean?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Flamester_ on January 25, 2006, 08:42:23 pm
What does D mean?
Ya what dose it mean.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Salazar on January 25, 2006, 10:54:54 pm
I think metal gear solid was some stealth game or something like that. So i assume it would mean sending spys  ???
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 26, 2006, 12:49:08 am
Ive made references to it in two updates... its quite a famous series of games, I suggest you google it.

Edit: no update tonight, i was watching House instead. The votes are tied anyway so i suggest you make your own entertainment for today... go on! they did it all the time in the '30s
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 26, 2006, 08:08:39 pm
Quote
Youll have to wait for Indigothism. We're currently in an era equivalent to the late Roman empire (well less militant obviously... and no barbarians at the gates and Emperors fiddling while Rome burns). Eventually we'll reach something nearer the renaissance and then youll have your religious revolution, k? ::)

There were plenty of religious things going on in the Roman Empire. The Temple-folk should have at least met OTHER religions, right? And while I guess I will wait for Indigothism, this more skeptical and rational religion developing on the frontier plantform seems interesting to develop. And it certainly is a different religion already... Even without a clergy, it could be like Deism or somthing...?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 26, 2006, 08:31:31 pm
voted D for the hell of it :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 26, 2006, 08:33:05 pm
Woo! No more tie!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 27, 2006, 01:27:49 am
Quote
Youll have to wait for Indigothism. We're currently in an era equivalent to the late Roman empire (well less militant obviously... and no barbarians at the gates and Emperors fiddling while Rome burns). Eventually we'll reach something nearer the renaissance and then youll have your religious revolution, k? ::)

There were plenty of religious things going on in the Roman Empire. The Temple-folk should have at least met OTHER religions, right? And while I guess I will wait for Indigothism, this more skeptical and rational religion developing on the frontier plantform seems interesting to develop. And it certainly is a different religion already... Even without a clergy, it could be like Deism or somthing...?

I dont think the cryoeltans have the concept of a creator (mainly because I havent thought about their religion much). Just something about their developemnet makes the question of where they came from impossible for them to ask because it seems so crazy and dumb.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 27, 2006, 01:03:08 pm
Ok youve patiently waited an extra day (damn you Hugh Laurie!) D won.

Our plantforms inhabitatants get together to formulate a plan to infiltrate the temple from within and wrest control from the corrupt priesthood. they carefully think and eventually come up with a plan involving minimum bloodshed and maximum sneakiness. The temple actively recruits cryoeltans from large plantforms which have the potential to be good temple administrators or priests. One such recruitment ship has recently docked with a nearby plantform and begun calling for volunteers. Our plantform sends a few of its best and brightest to work in the temple and get a good idea of whats going on. They are all accepted, two end up working in the hall of records, one is recruited as a scribe and one gets the honour of becoming an Ion accolyte (he wont have to venture into the ionosphere for a few more years though). The spys are put in place in the temple and use the lighthouse to send coded messages back to our plantfrom. Within a few weeks it is learned that the temple has begun detecting some signs of unusuall behavior in our allies who converted to Astronomism and are assembling a team of inquisitors to investigate, this could be a problem. How should we deal with it?

A- Wait for the inquisitors to arrive. If they cotton on, kill them and sail somewhere the temple doesnt have as much power
B- move all Astronmist plantforms to ours and make a plantform supercomplex, this will baffle the inquisition and buy more time
C- Launch a pre-emptive strike against plantforms loyal to the temple
D- Activate our sleepers in the temple and assasinate the leading priests (this will cause massive political destabalisation) 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on January 27, 2006, 01:07:32 pm
there is no guarantee that D will work, so A
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on January 27, 2006, 03:06:16 pm
D- Activate our sleepers in the temple and assasinate the leading priests (this will cause massive political destabalisation)

This is a good choice, because, if successful, it will probably create a massive political vacuum similar that a regime like ours could simply step right in and take over...However, someone else could do the same exact thing, granted, but I don't really care. ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 27, 2006, 09:49:05 pm
E-Wait for the inquisitors to arrive and suffer the heresy trials. Defend Astronomism in the clearly rigged trial, win a moral victory, and go to 'the needle' martyrs.  8)

((I am still somewhat confused as to why the original astronomers hate the Ionists so much that they want to bring down the entire organization, or that they feel at war with The Temple. If I were in the original astronomer's position, gradiose plans of overthrow would be the last thing on my mind... Ah well, we are on this path, we might as well follow it, eh?))

Edit: Oh, and my serious vote is E. While it is risky, if it works it will probably do wonders against the enemy. However, even if it does (or worse if it doesn't) work, this would drastically affect opinions of the Ionist-on-the-street against Astronomists... Might even lead to some sort of purifing crusade against the heretics?

((And, what are the functions of the Temple Priests? Like, their religious function?))
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 28, 2006, 09:01:21 am
On a similar note, today is the anniversery of Martin Luther's heresy trial at The Diet of Worms.  ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 28, 2006, 03:33:04 pm
Im afraid I'm once again going to have to delay the update... Ive been busy and this is the sort of thing I need to write a long rambling post for... stay tuned folks.

In the mean time heres a little info regarding the Cryoeltan's home system (pulled out of my ass right this minute ;)):

Sun: Blue star slightly larger than Sol and a few million years further into its lifecycle. Given the name Delta Ilex by... someone

Planets: A total of five planets. Delta Ilex I is a mercury like planet (unsurprisingly), there was once a second planet which was somehow destroyed meaning there is a large asteroid belt between the first planet and the Cryoeltan homeworld Delta Ilex II, the Cryoeltans call their homeworld 'Sky' in their language. III and IV are all small rocky worlds, they are both composed of a similar dark rock suggesting they were both originally part of one world which was split due to a collision with a comet or the like. Delta Ilex V is a 'helpful jupiter' gas giant, meaning it intercepts many meteors etc which might otherwise hit Sky. It is in fact slightly larger than Jupiter and has a greenish appearance. The cryoeltans know of these planets but have been so far unable to study them in detail because the priests smashed up the telescope. We may learn more about these planets soon.

Sky has no natural satellites, this was a guiding factor in the formation of the cryoeltan mindset as they did not have the waxing/waning life/death influence during their 'formative' millenia. Delta Ilex V has 26 moons of varying sizes which i wont go into now. Its lucky it has 26 because the latin alphabet only has 26 letters :P. that should tide you over until the next update, any questions?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 29, 2006, 01:41:57 pm
Good. A tidal wave of dicussion as always but a decent number of votes, democracy at its finest.

Our rogue plantform bands together to form a plan for getting rid of the inquisitors. later they send a coded message to the temple and activate the sleepers. The cryoeltan who became an acolyte (Red fast flash) goes to the temple armory and carefully picks up a long ceremonial pin used to pop effigys of Dark Ones under the new 'loony' religious system. Floating with purpose he moves to the chamber of the high priest (or Ion Pope if you will). As he does, the other sleepers move in on their designated targets: the leader of the newly formed inquisition, the two underpopes and the ultra loyal head of the light cultists (recently reformed into the light templar). Red slowly sneaks up behind the pope and lifts his pin, stabbing with all his strength he is surprised to see a pin already sticking out of the popes back and the leader of the inquistion holding a soiled knife. The Inquisitor begins to speak but is silenced when a large rock smashes his crystal, Red looks over to see the leader of the templars floating at the door banked by his guards. Then it all goes nuts; lights go out, flashes of light everywhere, dozens are stabbed in the confusion. Red finally gets out to find chaos on the streets. The once stable temple has fractured into three factions which are now vying for control over the site.
1. the loyalists, who supported the old pope.
2. the rebels, led by the inquisitor. these guys are total zealots who thought the old church was too soft on heretics
3. the templars, serve the old ways. their moral code is the same one the light cultists used even before the indigo revolution. These pack the greatest military clout but have no real goals.

Then of course there is our little colony and its allies, friendless but fortunately so far forgotten in the turmoil. Once it is established what the hell happened our leaders get together and make their decision:

A: Stay, fight, subdue the warring factions and seize the temple
B: Stay, but make like Switzerland
C: explorers have reported that to the far north is a vast wall of wind (this is a huge air current spanning the entire equator of the planet at the level the cryoeltans exist) beyond it could be new lands, free from the pettiness of this place.
D: Move somewhere else, but dont take unnecesary risks with wall of wind
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 29, 2006, 02:00:34 pm
C. For several reasons:

1.The lands beyond the windwall are likely to be ENTIRELY different from the current culture-set of Cryoeltans we've met so far. As I see it, we could be making a jump analagus to dropping 5th century heretics into someplace like ancient China or India. New, interesting cultural habits, ways of doing things, religions even. The move will make things interesting. I feel that by not reisking to pass thru the windwall, we'll be stuck with similar cultures. I want variety

2.The wall will be a good barrier against the Templists (Whichever group wins the civil war) or any potential enemies the Astronomists leave behind. I'm assuming that this will be a mass exodus of all Astronomist plantforms, or just 'ours'?

3.It will be interesting to see how the Ionist plantform+allies evolves in time without the outside interference of us. We've spend almost the entire thread fiddling with that plantform, I think that we should just leave it alone for a while.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 29, 2006, 04:08:58 pm
I'm voting A, once the church is secure, we can move to the windfall.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 29, 2006, 04:11:56 pm
I'm voting A, once the church is secure, we can move to the windfall.

Why do the Astronomists care what happens to the Temple? It was the Ionists and their backwards doctrine that caused the first astronomers to flee the Temple Plantform in the first place!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 29, 2006, 04:14:12 pm
Revenge. Imagine: You make an important discovery, and instead of getting the fame and recogniton you deserve, you not only get your discovery ignored, but you are also shunned from your society. You wouldn't want to get back at them?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on January 29, 2006, 05:01:22 pm
I would think that the "wall of wind" is probably more like the Cryoeltan version of the Terran Jet Stream. If that's so, the plantform could very well wind up on the other edge of the planet...away from any real persecution, and such, is my choice.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on January 30, 2006, 07:28:04 am
it will be interesting to run into the old style after years of being on our own. The differences between the two cultures will b fun to interact with when we eventually meet back up.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 30, 2006, 07:33:35 am
Yes, wont they just?

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>_>

^ stolen from a post patman made


Edit: Hey guys! Guess what? Yup, another delayed update. But theyre so good you can wait two days right? ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on January 30, 2006, 08:38:56 pm
Edit: Hey guys! Guess what? Yup, another delayed update. But theyre so good you can wait two days right? ;)

You'll get yours, for not updating. *SHAKEFIST!*
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on January 30, 2006, 10:33:02 pm
I vote A but with more of a statergy of not out fighting use the fact we are more or less forgotten to our advantage just quietly sending people in to keep the war going be patenit and let them destroy as much of each other as possible doing everything to make sure the war deestates each side as much as possible all the while gathering our own strength until finally we are able to come in and take the enemies with little to no resistance.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on January 31, 2006, 01:30:20 pm
Ok update time! Unsurprisingly most of you voted for C.


Preparations are made, the astronomist plantforms decide for good that they should leave the turmoil of this part of the sky behind. First, all the plantforms are securely lashed together into one huge complex. Next, all bulidings are securely buckled down to defend against raging winds and all livestock are herded into barns. As the complex approaches the windwall specialy chosen burly cryoeltans lash themselves to the sail of the plantform with strong ropes.
The complex gets closer, the whirling currents cause it to bank and sway dramatically. As they get closer, chords creak and the cryoeltans busily move around, adjusting sails and repairing torn ropes. eddies cause the whole complex to twirl alarmingly and several buildings and plants are uprooted, a cryoeltan loses his grip and is smashed against the ground, another is ripped off the plantform and blows away.
Several hours later, the complex is free of the windwall. They have emerged on the other side of the equator and around 70 degrees west of where they went in. The New Sky awaits them!

Several weeks are spent repairing the plantforms and getting things back in order. It is agreed that the plantforms should stay lashed together for the time being and explorers are sent out to find new plantforms to colonise.

One such party of explorers spots a plantform in the distance, they have been traveling for some time in an area full of dense mist. The lower light levels gives them a sort of altitude sickness and they decide to land on the plantform to rest a while. As they get closer the mist clears to reveal, strange, alien buildings. Even closer sees actual living cryoeltans. When they finally land they are met by strange beings. They appear to be cryoeltans but they are smaller, have huge crystal patches spreading almost half way across their bodies with milky white opaque crystals instead of transparent ones. Our cryoeltans try to explain their situation but the strangers just stare at them, not understanding our language. Luckily they dont look hostile and offer our explorers some strange local food and liquids. While eating our cryoeltans begin the standard 'establish a language by pointing at things and saying stuff' routine. This kind of cryoeltans appear to call themselves (in our sound based language) Crini-altams.
These cryoeltans have been separate from the others long enough to develop a distinct biology and culture, their large crystals help them to photosynthesis in foggy conditions common in this area of the world and their buildings are squat and made of a different material. They have less advanced light powers and technology but compensate by being much stronger physically and by being adept in other technologies such as masonary, metallurgy and mechanics.
After several weeks a dialogue is established and a crude cultural exchange is agreed. A few Altams will acompany our explorers back to the plantform complex and some of our explorers will remain behind.
Back on the home plantforms the infrastructure has been re-established when the explorers return and the Altans appear impressed with our little civilisation. When they are proficient in Cryoeltan they ask why the astronomers came here. They are understanding when they hear the story of the temple as they themselves are being persecuted by religious fanatics. Far from here is a complex of plantforms ruled by a feudal hierarchy of Altams who worship black hopping 'gods' who it is claimed lived here long ago but departed as suddenly as they came. The enemy of the Altams believe that only through mass sacrifices can their return be avoided. The astronomers recall hearing about the blck gods before and search the library, eventually turning up a manuscript speaking of how their ancestors had summoned a spear of light to vanquish 'shadow demons'. Disturbed by the plight of their new allies the leaders of our plantform decide on an action.

A- Scout the area some more, not even the Altams know much about this area as they fled here recently
B- Send an expedition to speak with the devil worshippers, maybe the manuscripts can stop them from sacrificing peope
C- Build up an army
D- Send out our people to help improve the quality of life on the Altam plantform and 'civilise' them a bit... theyre ways are rather strange...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on January 31, 2006, 03:47:29 pm
I should think that scouting around is the wisest choice. After all, in such misty conditions, the cryoeltan light abilities and weapons would be at a disadvantage, and should probably adapt a bit more to the environment and get a handle on it before doing anything else.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on January 31, 2006, 05:16:24 pm
Definitely not D, we all know how well religious intervention works.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on January 31, 2006, 06:05:16 pm
B. I feel that stopping mass-murder is a definate priority. Admittedly, there might be a certain risk of getting astronomist-on-an-altar stuff... oh well.

A few questions about the Altams. You say that they have a "distinct biology and culture". Are they a sub-race of Cryoeltan, or another species entirely? How do they reproduce (sexually or like Cryoeltans, asexually?). What is the religion of the 'good' Altams?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 01, 2006, 01:07:07 pm
B. I feel that stopping mass-murder is a definate priority. Admittedly, there might be a certain risk of getting astronomist-on-an-altar stuff... oh well.

A few questions about the Altams. You say that they have a "distinct biology and culture". Are they a sub-race of Cryoeltan, or another species entirely? How do they reproduce (sexually or like Cryoeltans, asexually?). What is the religion of the 'good' Altams?
The altams reproduce exactly the same way the cryoeltans do. You could consider them to be a different ethic group of cryoeltans.

Anyway... bah. A wins which means i'll have to make upo some brand new stuff. Grrr.

Our plantform decides to join forces with their new altam allies to scout out the area and begin to establish some new colonies. The altams have much more advanced ships than we do and help us to build some, in exchange they recieve cryoeltan crewmembers who can act as foglights at night and who have superior knowledge of navigation using the sun and the moon.
Little ships are soon flying from our plantforms to discover more about the area. One ship comes back telling of a virgin plantform full of exotic animals and plants. They bring back a live sample, A small, shimmering, irridecant beetle-like creature which the astronomers decide to keep as a pet. A colonisation team set out to claim the plantform and another ship returns, saying they have made contact with another tribe similar to the altams who came here much earlier. They are technologically inferior to both us and the altams but they have a very large, fertile plantform which produces more food than they need so they agreed to trade with us.
In the mean time the astronomers have turned their telescopes toward the ground in the hopes of rebuilding the trawling cranes which were damaged by the windwall. They are somewhat dissapointed to find that they are now flying over ocean, not land but soon adapt the cranes to carry nets and dredge up sealife. This adds an interesting twist to their diet and they ocasionally dredge up large crablike creatures with tough shells suitable for making armour and sometimes even sizable chunks of ore from the shallow sea bed.
This whole update takes place over about a decade, the 'pilgrims; have made themselves at home on this side of the windwall and the threat of religious persecution from all sides begins to fade (nothing has been heard from the people the Altams fled from). This age of peace prompts our little civilisation to improve their lot in life... how?

A- Study optics some more
B- Study metallurgy more
C- Study (silico)biology more
D- Study art more   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 01, 2006, 03:45:23 pm
What's metallurgy?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on February 01, 2006, 05:41:03 pm
What's metallurgy?

Wikipedia is your friend.

In reality, however, metallurgy is probably the best thing for scientific, cultural, and economic advancement, hands down. I mean, technically, the cryoeltans are still in the stone age...technically.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 01, 2006, 06:35:21 pm
What's metallurgy?

Wikipedia is your friend.

In reality, however, metallurgy is probably the best thing for scientific, cultural, and economic advancement, hands down. I mean, technically, the cryoeltans are still in the stone age...technically.

OK, so it's basically like chemistry for only metals?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 02, 2006, 12:24:20 am
What's metallurgy?

Wikipedia is your friend.

In reality, however, metallurgy is probably the best thing for scientific, cultural, and economic advancement, hands down. I mean, technically, the cryoeltans are still in the stone age...technically.
Technically yes but they have advanced beyond that developmentally because of their unique abilities.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 02, 2006, 11:43:54 am
So the Cryoeltans get the Urge to use metal (ha ha!)

The fortuitous meeting with the altams gave the Cryoeltans advanced knowledge of metalworking. The Altamns had previously had access to metal ores and such from a very hight himalaya-like mountain range which was high enough for cryoeltans to venture into unharmed. unfortunately the bug worshippers had driven them away. They were pleasantly surprised to learn of our trawling technology and although the yields of useful materials was hit and miss it was better than nothing and even gave them access to new types of minerals as yet untested. The altams do not posses light abilities strong enough to melt metal so they had discovered fire some time ago. Our civ had known of fire for a long time but saw it only as a nuisance byproduct of heating by light. The combination of knowledge from the two civilisations prompted a new interest in the study of metal and its properties.
soon the smithies of our towns began turning up new alloys and discoveries on an almost daily basis. the Silicon knights were equipped with new, more formidable arms and armor and new extra refelctive mirrors found good use in the observatories which were springing up across our mini-empire.

As our culture began to fuse with that of the altams a strange effect emerged, when altams began using the birthing pools of the Cryoeltans, the offspring which emerged seemed to be a hybrid of Cryoeltan and Altam, they had the massive crystals of the altams, which helped them to exist in the misty conditions of the region, but their light abilities were at a par with those of the Cryoeltans... in fact as they matured they displayed even more prodigious light powers than had been seen before. Examination of the birth pools by attendants revealed that young of the Cryoeltan species regularly fused and split again while in the very early stages of development, creating an 'alloy' of the two 'races'. this had in fact been going on for some time and allowed for variation between individuals in the cryoeltan species. The Cryoeltans and the Altams embraced this new 'alloying of cultures' and gradually the Second Empire was born.

This new empire is administrated from the complex of plantforms which originally traversed the windwall and now comprises around 25 plantforms and complexes. the low food demands of the cryoeltans meaning that the empire has a growing population of almost 1 million citizens. The government is arranged much like the Greek republic, where senetors are elected from high-ranking astronomers and merchants in the population. A number of religions are practised in the growing empire including indigoism and the more down to earth nature worshipping druidistic religion introduced by the altams before the alloying. religious tensions are kept low however as open debates are encouraged and the Cryoeltan temperment usually sees that the whole thing doesnt end in violence. Nothing has been heard from the temple back behind the wall or the persecutors of the altams... but some say it is only a matter of time.

A- Expand outward, look for more plantforms to colonise
B- Try to increase the capacity of existing plantforms by growing more food somehow and investing in high-capacity buildings.
C- Actively search for the Altams opressors and try to reclaim the 'homelands'
D- Try and figure out a safe way to repeatedly traverse the windwall and reestablish contact with the temple... if its still there.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Stangmar on February 02, 2006, 01:02:37 pm
I ponder if pushing the population density would spur industrialization...but..then again, the Cryoeltans are -probably- a bit ways off from understanding mechanical energy and applying it, just yet, I suppose.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 02, 2006, 03:42:59 pm
A, because I like making you think.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on February 02, 2006, 03:56:48 pm
C: Stop the killing!!!

And is 'indigoism' Ionism, or something else?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 03, 2006, 12:34:17 am
i'm gonna say d, as the empire is big enough and i don't think they're ready for a war just yet. also, making contact with the old empire way reep (reap?) technolgical or resource rewards.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 03, 2006, 01:14:22 am
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making contact with the old empire way reep (reap?) technolgical or resource rewards.

that should read "may reep", not "way". anywho, i might like to try doing one of these, how hard are they to write? also, i could only update them on the weekends.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 03, 2006, 01:22:34 am
if you want to alter your post you can click on 'edit' in the top right corner...

I have no idea how hard these might be for someone else to write but I'd advise against starting another right now, there are 4 on this board now... maybe wait for one of the others to die first ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 03, 2006, 01:47:56 am
hey krakow, where exactly are you? becuase i doubt you're up at half past one in the morning doing this. in perth W.A, it's roughly 5:50pm right now.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 03, 2006, 02:16:42 am
I'm in england. its 10 in the morning over here. Nice avatar and sig by the way.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 03, 2006, 02:27:51 am
hang on, what exactly does BBS stand for?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 03, 2006, 04:36:50 am
hurry up and update, will you? :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 04, 2006, 12:26:25 pm
oh great... I have to solve an imaginary problem ::)

200 years have passed since our civ traversed the windwall. The scholars of our capital plantform have read the accounts of that time and decide that they would like to know how the temple dispute was solved. This would of course require traversing the windwall again but 200 years of technological progress have not been for nothing. Extensive testing has shown that there is a critical height below which cryoeltans can not live due to the pressure. Exploration and inquiry has found that the windwall deminishes in intensity enough to be safely traversed above the critical cryoeltan death height.
Some months later the think-tanks come out with a new design for a boat, fitted with special ballast to allow it to decend and rise at will it also employs a novel method of propulsion. in place of the sail is a bizzare (to the cryoeltans) mechanism. A cryoeltan uses a lens or concave mirror to heat a large tank of liquid, the steam which escapes is forced through pipes and drives a wheel round and around. This wheel is connected by a series of gears and belts o a large fanblade arrangement which pushes the new boat forward. The boat is enclosed to protect the occupants and for some reason the designers decided the whole thing wouldnt be complete without a front mounted adjustable light weapon which uses a periscope arrangement to relay light from the gunner to the firing chamber and focusing lenses. You could view the thing as a sort of crazy rennaisance leonardo da Vinci style sky tank.
Several of these are quickly assembled and manned with scientists, politicians and a few guards and sent to the windwall.
The skytanks flawlessly fly under the windwall and head in the direction the temple was once supposed to be located. as they approach the location of the temple they see that the once glorious building is scarred by time and centuries of war. The area around the temple is no longer the commercial centre it was back in the day but full of slums. The explorers see cryoeltans near death from lack of even the small amount of food that cryoeltans require. At the entrance to the temple are two guards in shiny reflective armor, they dont appear malnourished at all. When they see the skytanks they rush inside and emerge flanked by more guards and some cryoeltans looking a lot like priests. The explorers emerge from the skytanks and after the usual introduction bit are in a postion to ask some questions.
It is revealed that following the great temple assasination fiasco minor skirmishes broke out across the old empire. The temple held on to a large amount of power for a while until a priest stationed on a far away plantfor started saying that the spirit of indigo had spoken to him and wanted him to shun the 'evil' ways of  the temple. he gathered followers at a frightening pace and then led a fully fledged holy war against the temple. The conflict has been raging for 150 years now. The main point of dissagreement between the two faction is that the Temple wants everyone to believe that cryoeltans who are bad go to a sort of hell on the other side of the sun, the new 'Indigoths' want everyone to believe that hell is the blank space between the stars. All civilisation in this area has been plunged into a dark age because of this petty disagreement. Our explorers leave a few trinkets as a token of respect and then depart politely to consider what they should do.

A- Leave these fools to stew in their own folly, forever if need be
B- Try to assist the inncoent victims of the dispute but dont get involved in the dispute itself
C- Try to negotiate peace between the warring factions
D- Stage a coup d'etat. Take control of the temple, silence both factions and add their plantforms to the new empire     
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on February 04, 2006, 12:49:35 pm
Yay! Indigoths!  ;).

I say C! The two religions must end the schism, and the bloodshed along with it!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on February 04, 2006, 10:19:28 pm
I say B help the innocents who have suffered in this war let them join your empire even enentually show then later we can deal with the war it's self or maybe deal with problems of our new home 1st.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on February 04, 2006, 10:50:15 pm
I say B help the innocents who have suffered in this war let them join your empire even enentually show then later we can deal with the war it's self or maybe deal with problems of our new home 1st.

But by stopping the war, we will eliminate the problem entirely! I think it is a bit foolish to solve it in such a round-about fashion as option B. By only helping out the innocents, and not attempting to stop the war, we are allowing more victims to be created, just making the problem even bigger. We must stop the violence now! With peace, the land can thrive again with peaceful commerce, et al. Besides, I have little doubt that our missions of mercy could easily fall victim themselves to either of the factions, fearing that we are offering military support to their enemies, or somthing.

With peace in the Temple-region, we come out the stronger. With these new skytanks, we could trade with the newly peaceful Old Empire, get a sort of Columbian Exchange going. It helps everyone out.

I feel that I must also address option D... IT IS FOOLISH! We are hardly established in the NewSky and you folks want us to establish colonies? We are not a major military power yet. If we came in to conquer the Old Empire, we would very likely fail in taking the whole thing. I doubt we could take and hold more then 3-4 plantforms. And then what? We are dragged into this already 200-year-long conflict... with the infusion of our invasion, who knows how much longer the war could last? All it does is drain resources, as we fight to maintain our petty hold on completely worthless plantforms (If the glorious capitol and commercial mecca of the Old Empire is almost entirely slums, imagine what the rest of the Empire is like!). We gain nothing, and in fact lose a lot. If you imperialists do want to conquer this land... wait a bit. When we help establish peace in the region, we gain the support and respect of the people. Give the  region a century or two to get back on its feet again, 'fatten up', and who knows? Perhaps we could even take territory peacefully (marriage into noble families, purchases of land, etc.). Or, for those who insist on war, we are liberating 'the people' from the last vestiges of the 'ancien regime' (Oh my! The French Revolution!!! In space, no less!   ::)).


EDIT:
Wht is war like for Cryoelteans, anyways? Do the Cryoeltans still utilize deathray technology? If they do... I imagine that such technology is being used in plantform-to-plantform engagements . Do they use plantforms 'strategically'? I mean, if the plantforms move, its sort of like a navy, right? While I do hope for option C to win... perhaps the Astronomists take refuge in The Temple during an Indigothic attack before peace is made. Because I do want to glimpse Cryoeltean warfare... although certainly not long-term.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 05, 2006, 01:54:37 am
I'm gonna go C, becuase that way you could show them that you're not taking sides, which would then allow you to help the innocent. then, once everyone loves you, you could try to show the general populace how evil the other faction are and with their support you can overthrough the goverment and take over! ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 05, 2006, 02:02:50 pm
Out of courtesy i'm announcing there will be no update today. This is the price you pay for me keeping this thing going. intermittant updates.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 05, 2006, 03:43:04 pm
Out of courtesy i'm announcing there will be no update today. This is the price you pay for me keeping this thing going. intermittant updates.

We're all used to it by now. Friggin freeloader.  ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Samog on February 05, 2006, 10:18:00 pm
Out of courtesy i'm announcing there will be no update today. This is the price you pay for me keeping this thing going. intermittant updates.
Now you see, Krakow Sam(m), that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 06, 2006, 11:20:42 am
Um... thanks Samog(g) ???

C won by quite a few votes.

Our little troop of explorers return to base and tell the senate of what they found out. The senate debates the issue and eventually come up with a peace plan which they will attempt to implement. specially talented diplomats are dispatched in grand, impressive new skytanks across the windwall. One group to the temple and the other group to the last confirmed location of the Indigoth leader.
They both make contact and learn something interesting. Throughput this conflict, both sides have been intermittantly and seemingly randomly attacked by a strange cult of ultra-extreme Cryoeltans. They live on remote plantforms, not in houses, but on platforms attatched to ballons which are tied onto the plantform. They believe that living at a high altitude leaves them more open to divine inspiration... in fact all that happens is their brains get addled by cosmic radiation and they become xenophobic and aggressive to extremes. Unfortunately these High altitude extremists (HAE!) have been gaining recruits from the destitute cryoeltans whose lives were ruined by the war. This group must also be somehow placated if a lasting peace is to exist.
The Temple leaders seem eager to cooperate, probably due to a mixture of sycophancy, greed and fear that they feel towards us and our superior technology. They certainly welocme any attempts to restore their temple to its former splendour.
The Indigoths are less eager to cooperate, they tell the diplomats about the various war attrocities commited by the temple's inquisitors and dont seem as wowed by our skytanks and sillicon knights. However they are far from the monsters the temple made out to be and there is certainly more class equality on Indigoth controlled plantforms.
Anb exploratory group dispatched to investigate the Hae came back suffering from severe altitude sickness and suffering from a number of superficial injuries. It is decided that the Hae are best left alone for now.
The peace negotiations last for years, then decades. Treaties are signed and resigned. Skirmishes break out and are quelled by our peacekeeping forces. intermittant raids by the Hae ruffle proverbial feathers. Eventually the problem is resolved. The temple is to be designated neutral ground, it is defended by an independant band of atheist knights trained not to show favour to any group. The temple and indigoth will have their centres of administration on other plantforms and will have absolute jurisdiction over the plantforms they control. Any new plantforms colonised will belong to the nation which first colonised them.
On the day the treaty is signed a bright streak appears in the sky, it is seen by the three nations as a sign of peace and prosperity. It is in fact the Zerba-Caltrop comet (as it is called by...someone) making a once per 1000 years pass of cryoeltia.
Some weeks later it is reported to the capital city of our nation that outlying plantforms have been suddenly attacked and seized by an unkown enemy. This enemy has constructed skytanks of their own and wield weapons which are equal in advancement to our own... if not better. In the frenzied investigations that follow the senate learns that the invaders are the spider worshippers from which the altams had fled centuries ago. They had been given plans for our technology by an underground ultra-secret sect which has existed in our nation since the alloying known as the Servants of the Spider. The enemy were prompted to attack by the passage of the comet. A war council is assembled:

A- Mobalise all forces, consript people, train an army quickly, build skytanks and attack the attackers!
B- Go on the defensive, assemble all plantforms and fortify like crazy
C- Attempt to reason with the invaders diplomatically
D- Use some secret service trickery to get the other two nations behind the windwall to attack our new enemy.     
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Post by: Flamester_ on February 06, 2006, 11:56:59 am
C diplomacy is fun.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 06, 2006, 12:54:39 pm
C diplomacy is fun.
Eurg! <pinches bridge of nose> no more! :'(
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Post by: SBD on February 06, 2006, 04:19:16 pm
C, because the diplomats can be spies and assassins! BWA HA HA HA!
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Post by: Caltrop on February 06, 2006, 06:31:46 pm
B. Time for some war, Cryoeltan style!  :)

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It is in fact the Zerba-Caltrop comet (as it is called by...someone) making a once per 1000 years pass of cryoeltia.

Thanks.  ;D
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 07, 2006, 12:13:35 am
wink wink (;))

Edit: no update today people. I got too sucked into the City of X event theyve got going. Heroes teaming up with villains to fight across dimensions= awesome.
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Post by: Caltrop on February 08, 2006, 02:55:11 pm
wink wink (;))

Edit: no update today people. I got too sucked into the City of X event theyve got going. Heroes teaming up with villains to fight across dimensions= awesome.

By 'today' did you mean the day of the original post, or today: February 8th?
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 08, 2006, 03:00:15 pm
the 8th
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Post by: Caltrop on February 08, 2006, 03:11:06 pm
the 8th

Ah, blast!  8)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 09, 2006, 08:30:41 am
B wins, we're fortifying.

Launched into a state of panic by the invasion of the outlying plantforms the senate elects a special war council to form a think tank and formulate a startegy. They quickly calculate that immediate defensive action must be taken and a message is sent to all allied plantforms via lighthouse. The slow process of moving the plantforms begins, luckily the developement of steam turbines has led to several experimental ones being build attatched to densely populated plantforms, giving them a form of powered propulsion independant of the wind. In two weeks all the plantforms have been moved to the capitol and been securely fastened together. Unfortunately in that time 5 plantforms which were not quick enough were taken by the enemy, no refugees have been spotted and it is assumed they have been sacrificed by the enemy.
Another week of feverish activity sees the erection (ha ha) of rudimentry walls and towers around the complex perimeter. Surface trawlers work overtime to provide forges and workshops with materials and skytanks are feverishly put together and new silicon knights conscripted.
It is in one of these forges that an interesting discovery is made. One of the artisans working there had brought in a small gas-filled ballooon which was being used to test whether materials were light enough for use in a skytank. A spark from the furnace they were operating landed on the balloon and burned a small hole in the surface, as the gas rushed out it was ignited by the spark and blew a stream of fire, the fire propelled the baloon forward at a fantastic pace. The artisans immediately abandoned their current project and worked for a day and a night solidly and emerged from the lab triumphantly carrying a small cylinder and a tank of comressed plantform gas. They welded the cylinder onto a skytank sitting in the harbor and attached some tubing to the bag of gas then got inside the tank. They let the tank drift a little way out and then pulled on a rope leading from inside the cabin to the contraption they had attached to it. Gas began leaking from the cylinder and was ignited by a small pilot-light. The rest, as they say, is history.
The plantform complex began furiously producing rocket-tanks and smaller rocket, like weapons. In a few days they had a new plan, for now they would wait, but then...

A- wait some more, when the enemy show up bombard them. Thatll show 'em
B- assemble all forces and rush the enemy, take all our plantforms back...theirs too.
C- Do some kind of fancy pincer-tactic type thing
D- Send a message to the allied nations behind the windwall and ask them to lend some assistance... then show off by rocketing the enemy out of the sky.     
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Post by: Caltrop on February 09, 2006, 06:13:32 pm
B. It would be really nice if we could finally subjegate these folks and stop their killing spree. Perhaps now would be a good time to bring back the crickets, Krako...
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Post by: SBD on February 10, 2006, 01:36:52 am
A- we spent enough time building the defences, we may as well make use of them.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 10, 2006, 11:57:26 am
Right-ho!

The war council on our plantform decide to use our newfound strength to send a powerful message to our 'allies (shifty eyes)' on the other side of the windwall and politely request that they send some troops over to help defend the city. They oblige and a few days later the unmistakeable sight of a large column of steam indicates the approach of the enemy's skytank armada. The visiting diplomats seem extremely unnerved by this sight and their cries of disbelief when 100 gas powered and solid fuel rockets fly from or turrets and obliterate half the enemy are a sight to behold. As the remaining enemy skytanks start to crash into each other in a vain attempt to retreat a squadron of our rocket tanks make a pass of them and let rip with their optical weapons. The Diplomats make some hasty excuses and return to their own nations.
A few days later 5 spies all working for different organisations wade right into a cleverly set trap believing they have stolen plans for building rockets. They are caught and incarcerated by our government agents. We have sent a powerful message to the Cryoeltans of the known world. "Dont mess with the second Empire". To that effect a group of delegates approach from the area in which the bug worshippers used to live. They inform our senate that there has been a radical restructuring of their government and that they no longer believe that they are under threat from gigantic space bugs. With that they also request that they become part of the Empire to benefit from our amazing protection. Two days later one of the delegates is caught trying to steal rocket plans and is locked up.
The amalgamation of the Empire's plantforms has been a catalyst to the start of a rennaisance and a mass expansion of cryoeltan terriory. What is the most important discovery to come out of the start of this rennaisance? (note: All these technologies will become available to the cryoeltans later by some means but you are in effect choosing how early they are discovered and therefore how much of an impact they have on the cryoeltans)

A- Advanced chemistry allowing the extraction of useful gasses directly from the air. (no need to get it out of plantforms)
B- The discovery that certain crystals produce a mysterious force when certain wavelengths of light are shone on them (you can guess what the force is ;))
C- Advanced aerodynamic principles allowing the construction of sleeker, faster, rocket tanks
D- New models for urban and land management and economics.

A- The
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Post by: Vivec on February 10, 2006, 03:11:45 pm
B = electricity? I guess.... but i dunno.
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Post by: smjjames on February 10, 2006, 03:23:03 pm
B = electricity? I guess.... but i dunno.

he meant lasers. and I'll vote D just to mess things around :)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 10, 2006, 03:25:00 pm
Nope, Vivec is right. pfff, since when are lasers a force?
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Post by: smjjames on February 10, 2006, 03:26:05 pm
Nope, Vivec is right. pfff, since when are lasers a force?

oh you meant photoelectric crystals. still cool though.
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Post by: Caltrop on February 10, 2006, 04:02:12 pm
A. When the Cryoeltans go to foriegn worlds that lack plantforms, they should be skilled in gas-making.
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Post by: Vivec on February 10, 2006, 07:52:32 pm
Nope, Vivec is right. pfff, since when are lasers a force?

Yay! Happy time!
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Post by: Cobra on February 10, 2006, 11:47:18 pm
I voted C I want to see some cool personal one manned ships when the next war decided to role round have some sort of tie fighter-esk dog fighting stuff going on.
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Post by: SBD on February 10, 2006, 11:57:52 pm
B- just think it will be a major leap.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 12, 2006, 03:22:54 pm
I didnt expect D to get any votes... but B wins by a whisker.

Over the next century a number of advances are made in science and technology. A theory for gravity is developed as well as wave theory for the behavior of light. New telescopes show cryoeltans the planets of the system in great detail and much is learned by observation of their orbits. A form of printing is also exploited although due to the cryoeltan method of writing it uses solar energy. By far the most important discovery was made in the cluttered workshop of Orangely Tinkerer (the strictly colour based names of old now having been replaced with more earth-like job descriptive names). On his worktable were a number of rare minerals dredged up from the planet surface over the years (more efficient trawlers were developed which had fitted steam powered drills which allowed excavation of valuable seams) one of these was a small ingot of metal which attracted certain other metals, this was really just a curiosity and had no intrinsic value to the metalworkers of the empire. By a million to one chance, the sun shone through the window of his workshop and was replected off a mirror, through a prism and once again through a coloured filter before striking a small lump of refined metal near the magnetic rock. The magnetic rock immediately began to move and was attracted to the metal on which the light was shining despite the fact it was not magnetic. Tinkerer had unwittingly discovered the photoelectric effect. Casting aside his current project (a special suit which would allow a cryoeltan to fly long distances under its own power, like an insect) he quickly told the empire of his discovery and all the greatest minds turned to deciphering the puzzle of electricity.
Within a decade the Cryoeltan civilisation had discovered the secret of electric motors and had built solar panels with efficiency on par with those of modern Earth (thanks to their skill with optics and their ability to grow rare crystals), they even developed electric lights which could be powered by steam turbines, the cryoeltan civilisation no longer needed to stop at night, their cities and towns shone 28/12. These new advances brought about a great industrial revolution only a couple of centuries after their rennaisance. To cope with the growing weight on the plantforms massive gas balloons are harnessed to them to keep them up.  As industry expands and begins to encroach on living space vast flat platforms are built and hung from the bottom of the floating cities.
With this new industrialisation comes the manufacture of new materials and Technologies. One is a new, stronger type of metal which would allow the construction of a new suit which would allow cryoeltans to explore the surface of the planet with increased ease. Another is a prototype for an experimental new skytank engine. The third stems from research into the photoelectric effect and would allow the voluntary generation of radio waves... a part of the spectrum which the Cryoeltans can not emmit. The fourth concerns plans put together by a brilliant but somewhat unstable group of young Cryoeltans at the main centre of learning in the Capitol complex. It is a machine composed of many intricate mechanical parts, powered by steam and clockwork, which would be capable of performing mathematical functions... for some reason the cryoeltan equivalent of the word 'Babbage' has been thought up as a name for this project.
The rather stingy department for science will only entertain one of these ideas... which is it to be?

A- Surface suits
B- Engine
C- Radiowaves
D- Babbage

Extra info: For all you people who love detail I will divulge the particulars of cryoeltan art. Since they have no sense of hearing the cryoeltans have no music but do enjoy visual art. Due to the highly optical nature of the cryoeltan brain, images and colours have a much greater effect on mood and thought process than humans. To that effect cryoeltan art has  been mostly abstract. In the Industrial rennaisance detailed above the black and white camera was invented and photography became a dominatn artform. Most Cryoeltans have a camera and the exchange of favoured images is a great aid to understanding one another without interfacing brains.       
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Post by: Caltrop on February 12, 2006, 03:58:36 pm
D. With primitive computers, the Cryoeltans will be well on their way to planetary dominance, and if all goes well, in space in the next 100 years.
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Post by: SBD on February 12, 2006, 04:00:07 pm
D- they have no need for anything else right now.
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Post by: Stangmar on February 12, 2006, 05:32:10 pm
Y'know, with industrialization probably comes a stratification of the social classes and such...I think it would probably be wise to start addressing more socio-economic changes, as well as political and international changes, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by: Caltrop on February 12, 2006, 05:46:25 pm
Y'know, with industrialization probably comes a stratification of the social classes and such...I think it would probably be wise to start addressing more socio-economic changes, as well as political and international changes, but that's just my opinion.

Society on Earth was stratified WAY before industrialization. Cryoeltans seem far more egalitarian then us... However, with the advent of advanced machines, and thus the lessened necessity of 'human' labor, I do think that some sort of social problems could start becoming known. Hmm.
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Post by: Stangmar on February 12, 2006, 07:13:11 pm
Y'know, with industrialization probably comes a stratification of the social classes and such...I think it would probably be wise to start addressing more socio-economic changes, as well as political and international changes, but that's just my opinion.

Society on Earth was stratified WAY before industrialization. Cryoeltans seem far more egalitarian then us... However, with the advent of advanced machines, and thus the lessened necessity of 'human' labor, I do think that some sort of social problems could start becoming known. Hmm.

Well duh. It's just that the Cryoeltans kind of bypassed normal economic progress by staying fairly socialistic with their resources, from what I can gather.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 13, 2006, 12:58:34 am
The way the cryoeltans work it is very difficult for them to be selfish with resources. There is some competition for positions of power (see the whole assasination thing) and for technology but not on the scale humans have it. Cryoeltans of lower standing and ability recognise the skills of their superiors and respect them without a fuss. Due to the low food requirements of the Cryoeltans there has never been a really serious famine which may prompt a revolution (excepting the state of the first empire when we rediscovered the temple :P).
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 13, 2006, 01:49:48 pm
D. Aww, you guys are so predictable.

The ministry of science gives the young students free reign with their counting machine project. The Babbage project takes the skill of hundreds of mathematicians, geometrists, metalworkers and engineers. Before the machine can be built, totally new tools have to be made to build it.
The project takes a total of 30 years, two generations of cryoeltans work on it, the offspring of the original workers carrying on their parent's work. When it is finally finnished the babbage is an awe inspring sight. 20 feet tall by 25 feet wide, it weighs over 60 tons and requires its own artificial floating platform. Inside is a maze of interlocking cogs, rods, shafts, pulleys, springs and the like.
The time comes to test the great machine, the original students who designed it stand by and look on proudly, the head of the senate himself is to pull the lever that will set the machine in motion. A problem is set in readyness for the momentus event: 2+5. The lever is pulled and the room fills with the sound of a million wheels turning, a thousand shafts moving back and forth. The noise would be deafening if the cryoeltans were able to hear. After thirty seconds the beutiful crystal and metal display clicks round to show the answer... 7! There is much mirth among the onlookers and a harder problem is posed: 3*7. this time the machine moves for a little longer, the display clicks round to...21! The next problem 5^7. The machine rumbles for a good few minutes... 78125!
Cryoeltans all over the empire rejoice. the culmination of 30 years of work has born fruit... they now have a 60 ton monstrosity to do simple sums...Its totally useless but this never crosses the mind of the cryoeltans. Now deeply ingrained in the collective consience of the cryoeltans is the belief that anything is worth doing, just for the challenge of doing it. this attitude is likely to stay with them for a long time to come...

A- A period of economic prosperity
B- A period of exploration
C- A period of War
D- A period of changelessness (8)) 
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Post by: Caltrop on February 13, 2006, 02:13:06 pm
B. The Cryoeltans can do anything? Get some terranauts down on the surface! Or, circumnavigate the globe... fewl.  :)
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 14, 2006, 02:20:32 pm
would this be a good time to mention that 8) means i have a lucky surprise in store... anyone want to change their vote?... you may not like what i do if you choose D though so Youve been warned.
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Post by: smjjames on February 14, 2006, 02:23:57 pm
D. Aww, you guys are so predictable.

The ministry of science gives the young students free reign with their counting machine project. The Babbage project takes the skill of hundreds of mathematicians, geometrists, metalworkers and engineers. Before the machine can be built, totally new tools have to be made to build it.
The project takes a total of 30 years, two generations of cryoeltans work on it, the offspring of the original workers carrying on their parent's work. When it is finally finnished the babbage is an awe inspring sight. 20 feet tall by 25 feet wide, it weighs over 60 tons and requires its own artificial floating platform. Inside is a maze of interlocking cogs, rods, shafts, pulleys, springs and the like.
The time comes to test the great machine, the original students who designed it stand by and look on proudly, the head of the senate himself is to pull the lever that will set the machine in motion. A problem is set in readyness for the momentus event: 2+5. The lever is pulled and the room fills with the sound of a million wheels turning, a thousand shafts moving back and forth. The noise would be deafening if the cryoeltans were able to hear. After thirty seconds the beutiful crystal and metal display clicks round to show the answer... 7! There is much mirth among the onlookers and a harder problem is posed: 3*7. this time the machine moves for a little longer, the display clicks round to...21! The next problem 5^7. The machine rumbles for a good few minutes... 78125!
Cryoeltans all over the empire rejoice. the culmination of 30 years of work has born fruit... they now have a 60 ton monstrosity to do simple sums...Its totally useless but this never crosses the mind of the cryoeltans. Now deeply ingrained in the collective consience of the cryoeltans is the belief that anything is worth doing, just for the challenge of doing it. this attitude is likely to stay with them for a long time to come...

I knew it! the only Babbage I knew of is that monster clockwork robot in CoH, so I figured thats what you meant :) although the Babbage in CoH is a havoc wreaking monster and this is just a computing robot sorta thing. I choose B.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 14, 2006, 02:28:41 pm
I named it after Charles Babbage the inventor of the worlds first mechanical computer... Google him.
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Post by: smjjames on February 14, 2006, 02:30:51 pm
oh, I guess thats what the guy in CoH was named for. figures.
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Post by: Caltrop on February 14, 2006, 02:59:03 pm
I named it after Charles Babbage the inventor of the worlds first mechanical computer... Google him.

Hey Krakow... I know this is a bit hypocritical of me to ask... but are you going to update today?  :-[
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 14, 2006, 03:00:37 pm
No, sorry. Its too late now. I'll do it tommorow. Soo-rry!
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Post by: SBD on February 14, 2006, 04:03:36 pm
B- lets go down to the floor

the OCEAN floor!
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Post by: Cobra on February 14, 2006, 11:27:36 pm
B lets go for a walk about
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Post by: smjjames on February 15, 2006, 07:35:02 am
well its obvious which one wins. ya gonna update this morning Krakow? I know its like 3:30 PM your time but its 7:30 AM for me.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 15, 2006, 08:47:00 am
Hmm, well if D had one I would have written about some sort of visitation by aliens telling them to snap out of it and reach space but since you guys are boring and predictable i'll write something about BORING exploration ;).

The cryoeltans decide that every 50 years a new Grand Project will be announced and that all of Cryoeltan endeavor will be turned to that project. After the (ahem) success of the babbage the ministry of Endeavors decides to vote on something that will be a tad more practical. it is announced that this will be the five decades of broadening horizons, all Cryoeltans are to explore the world in new ways. Two noteworthy projects are born of this. one turns out a fleet of huge improved skytanks. Equipped with cameras these set out to map the surface of the planted and to seek out new far-off plantforms. The other project builds on the mapwork done by the first project and uses new steam-powered armoured vehicles to explore the surface. These new vehicles use a powerful new tool... the Wheel! The cryoeltans have never actually used wheels for transport until recently as they never needed to. These vehicles even have special vac-suits on board. Powered by electricity generated by solar panels inside and outside the suit they propel cryoeltans along the surface using large rotating fans (note: since the cryoeltan civilisation trancended tribal stage they stopped using their natural sails for transport, relying on their arms and secondary rudders to pull or push themselves along nearby surfaces and on large boats for long distance travel. Since then the sails have been removed from youngsters at an early age for practical reasons, this procedure is painless.). Explorartion of the surface locates new valuable seams of minerals as well as exotic new wildlife to study. the most remarkable find is an ancient colony of large black insects existing in a sort of semi-tribal state. they have clearly existed like this for millenia and are terribly afraid of the cryoeltans. Not being heartless the cryoeltans do not interfere with them and stay out of the way. Although they are observed from afar.
The mapping project also locates some more plantforms but they are now beyond usefulness as the cryoeltans are quite capable of making artificial ones bouyed up by balloons.
The second great endeavor is a great sucess and has practical applications for all. many well-to-do cryoeltans are now whizzing around town in their own personal fan-suits and advances in rocketry allow faster and faster travel between settlements.
What should the next great endeavor be?

A- Babbage MK Deux
B- Rocket to the moooon (ok, theres no moon, but a rocket to spaaaace [unamanned] would probably be acceptable)
C- Colony on the surface- its pressuriffic!
D- Big huge radio telescope 
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Post by: Caltrop on February 15, 2006, 02:22:43 pm
C. I want more contact with those creatures on the surface...
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Post by: SBD on February 16, 2006, 03:59:03 pm
C- we can make a whole bunch of 'em.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 17, 2006, 01:30:18 pm
Long overdue update time. In this weeks exciting episode: "witness the terror of Ground station epsilon! Quake! As a strange force manipulates its inhabitants! Swoon! as dashing hearthrob... ok there isnt going to be anything like that :P

The Cryoeltans have been doing some serious industrialisation in the past few decades but unfortunately the pace has been slowed by the low availability of material from the surface. It is decided that if a complex were constructed on the planet surface the mining of its resources would become a piece of cake. designs are put together and in about 5 years construction begins. First, cranes and fan-pods are used to excavate a deep foundation, then large reinforced sheets of metal are lowered from the factories up above and assembled, other machinary is fitted in. Finally, huge fans are built in to pump air out of the building and maintain a low pressure and a cool temperature more suited to the cryoeltans. When this is built the outside is covered in solar panels and the cryoeltans move inside via electrically powered airlocks. The inside of the building contains living quaters, a sun chamber for photosynthesis and a small automated multi-purpose refinery and factory type set-up. Mining of the surface is conducted in one-man, treaded, solar-powered vehicles with large excavator arms and a big hopper for storing mineral ore. Explosives are used to pulverise rock and then the rock is collected and taken back to the complex to be refined, it is then sent up to a distribution centre hanging far above via a pulley system and supplys are sent down. Over a number of years, more of these modular mining complexes are built and eventually the large underground excavated areas are even sealed off and transformed into processing centres and ore refineries.
The mining complexes are often used by biologists and other scientists wishing to study the surface. A group of anthropolgists study the black bug tribe from afar and come to the conclusion that they fear anything that comes from the sky. Although born with wings, these are ritually chewed off soon after they develop. Observation and study of the remains of dead bugs lead Cryoeltan scientists to believe that they are drastically different from anything else on the planet, specrographic analysis of their remains show a large amount of the useless element carbon makes up their bodies although they are predominantly silicon... we'll learn more about the bugs at a later date.
Industry is set to hyperspeed, what to do with the extra resources? Well, its agreed by all cryoeltans (for some reason wink wink) that space is where its at so you cant choose anything not related to space.

A- Unmanned satellite
B- Manned Craft (warning- risky)
C- Big radio telescope
D- Giant transmitter... to blindly beam messages out to space. The cryoeltans are well aware that intelligent life has to exist SOMEWHERE out there.
 

 
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Post by: smjjames on February 17, 2006, 02:15:43 pm
even if they did do D, it would take decades, maybe even a centuries for a signal to reach aliens., SETI has been at it for something like 30 years and they havent detected anything definite.

as far as manned craft, doint it for the first time is always risky, but they'll develop experience about it.

so, A
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Post by: Caltrop on February 17, 2006, 02:19:23 pm
even if they did do D, it would take decades, maybe even a centuries for a signal to reach aliens., SETI has been at it for something like 30 years and they havent detected anything definite.

Indeed it would... best to send it off early then, huh? By the time the Cryoeltans are 'worthy' for space, they'll be meeting representatives from foriegn worlds!

Or, if we are lucky, perhaps a passing spacecraft will pick up the signal?
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Post by: smjjames on February 17, 2006, 02:22:47 pm
heh, A and D are tied atm.

also, are you getting the Cryoeltans close to UFO era? I know they are just starting to venture into space, just not sure how long the inceptus will have to 'stagnate' at thier tech level.
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Post by: Krakow Sam on February 17, 2006, 02:50:32 pm
yeah, Theyre rapidly approaching UFO stage. At this stage I cant think of any reason why there would be conflict withing their society. I already used religion 3 times so thats out of the question and they are at a time of plenty. The Cryoeltan mindset totally eliminates the possibility of wars due to selfishness or arrogance. Once we get to UFO there will be plenty of scope for interesting stuff... aliens dont need a reason to be evil and violent. heh heh. I'm thinking they should be out of their home system in 5 or so updates... 
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Post by: smjjames on February 17, 2006, 03:11:05 pm
yea, I could just have the Inceptus do the usual stuff. Not sure what else they could do atm.
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Post by: SBD on February 19, 2006, 04:05:35 am
i vote D, becuase even the Cryoeltans aren't stupid enough to send enyone into space without sending unmanned probes first.

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SETI has been at it for something like 30 years and they havent detected anything definite.

hang on, what do you mean by definite?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 19, 2006, 08:22:30 am
i vote D, becuase even the Cryoeltans aren't stupid enough to send enyone into space without sending unmanned probes first.

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SETI has been at it for something like 30 years and they havent detected anything definite.

hang on, what do you mean by definite?
SETI has been listening for alien signals, not broadcasting its own. The cryoeltans are hoping to attract the attention of anyone/thing out there.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 19, 2006, 01:29:43 pm
Aaaaall-righty then. Sputnik time.

The Empire has come a long way since its shaky birth. The Cryoeltan civilisation now consists of millions plantforms and artificial platforms spanning the entire surface of the planet. Hundreds of surface based colonies churn out a constsnt stream of materials for industry to build. Vast solar arrays provide the Empire with clean, efficient power. The global population of Cryoeltans is now well in excess of 4 billion, contact is kept between cities with microwave and radio technology and recent advances have seen the rise to prominence of a basic form of black and white television. Travel between these cities takes place by supersonic jet aircraft. The capital city, White, is a vast complex of natural and artificial plantforms home to 25 million Cryoeltans and turns out new scientific discoveries at a rate of 1 every two weeks. the most recent being the discovery of a molecule equivalent in Cryoeltan Biology to DNA. It is widely accepted that Cryoeltan civilisation is reaching as far as it can go while still confined to its home planet. Some primal instinct tells the Cryoeltans that the time has come for them to venture into space.
The ministry of science has spent 7 years on a project to build the satellite "Light of Trancendence" and now it is time for the launch. A specially built floating platform (held aloft by tanks of helium to prevent explosions) holds in a gantry, the 17 ton rocket which will carry the Light into orbit around Cryoeltia. The countdown begins: 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. The rockets fire and the craft rises majestically into the air, the cryoeltans at mission control are tense. The launch has been carried off flawlessly, at mission control the first radio beeps are recieved from the orbiting craft. The beeps are viewed by every citizen of the empire on the public screens in every district of every city. A new age dawns on the cryoeltan civilisation. What will be the first great act of the space age?

A- The construction of a huge network of space stations (All choices will lead to the construction of space stations but this will mean lots more)
B- Exploration and possible colonisation of Delta Ilex III and IV
C- Exploration and colonisation of the moons of Delta Ilex V
D- The construction of a ridiculously (and I mean it) huge transmitter
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 19, 2006, 02:12:09 pm
could you draw a diagram of where delta ilex 3 and 4 are and about the moons of ilex 4 which I assume is a gas giant? its just for reference.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 19, 2006, 02:50:50 pm
http://artpad.art.com/?iuyi1n1bu07g Orbits should really be circular but artpad cant do circles. (Disclaimer: Not to scale) check back in this thread to find my original planet description.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Erinas on February 19, 2006, 06:07:43 pm
I want ridiculous.  Sounds fun.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: tuggles on February 20, 2006, 12:34:33 pm
http://artpad.art.com/?iuyi1n1bu07g Orbits should really be circular but artpad cant do circles. (Disclaimer: Not to scale) check back in this thread to find my original planet description.

Actually all orbits are elipses with two foci. Most are relativly circular but none are 100%.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 20, 2006, 12:46:05 pm
I really should have said 'uniform' or 'regular' instead of circular... you know... not bumpy :P
Update to follow.

Ok, D it is.

After the launch of the first artificial sattelite, the developement of Cryoeltan civilisation followed a somewhat similar pattern to modern Earth. Only faster and lacking the obvious wartime inventions such as nuclear warheads and nerve gas. Nuclear technology was developed and some reactors built (to power underground industrial facilities in heavily cloudy regions), the cryoeltan genome was cracked and medicine benefitted. Genetic engineering of crops and animals became commonplace and yielded many benefits but the cryoeltans abstained from any major modifications to themselves beyond eliminating certain inherited disorders. Communication satellites were launched as well as space telescopes and later, space stations.
Once a decent space infrastructure was established the cryoeltans all felt the same collective urge. To build a transmitter in orbit. The construction of the transmitter became the sole urge of the entire civilisation, plans were drawn up immediatly... this was very odd because they were plans for technology the cryoeltans had never even seen before. Even so the plans were followed to the letter and soon the unwitting engineers had installed the main component, a strange diode-like object which emmited a strange aura not identifiable by any scientific equipment.
The whole of Cryoeltia watched with baited breath as the leader of the science team behind the construction of the transmitter slowly activated the dial which would turn the transmitter on. Slowly the transmitter came to life and sent the message. The message was nothing more than a garble of text and numbers but it was apparent to all that this was what had to be sent.
The world waited, 1 hour, 2 hours, 5 hours. Then finally 12 hours after the transmitter's activation, the monitors at mission control showed an object entering orbit. The entire science team was teleported onto a ship in orbit and found themselves in a bright, white, somewhat cliched room. A hatch in the wall slid open and a small metallic, spherical robot hovered into the room and said to the sceince team, in flawless Cryoeltan: "Congratulations, you are sucessful. You may now begin the next phase. Your benfactors have watched you with interest". When queried if they were ever going to meet these benfactors the robot replied: "There will be a time when you will be worthy of meeting them, but that time is not now. Until that time we give you these three powerful technologies. We know you will not abuse them. First and foremost is the secret of faster than light travel. Second is the technology to build a translator capable of deciphering all but the strangest foreign languages. Third is the technology to once again build transmitters to allow almost instantaneous communication within this galaxy. The Benefactors give you these three gifts in good faith. They know you will not abuse them. Information and schematics have been downloaded into your computers. We will now return you to your planet. Go in peace." and with that the science team find themselves back in mission control, the ship leaves the system.
3 years later sees the launch of the Cryoeltan flagship the C.E.V Luminous. 3 kilometers in length, it boasts hyperdrive engines, nuclear fusion reactors, 50 onboard escort vessels, 4 solar sails for movement within systems and (just in case) a battery of Crystal enhanced Petawatt lasers. Captain Indigo looks at his starchart eagerly, deactivates his vision and points. Where does his finger land?

A- Delta Angstrom, a white star
B- The Tsigorvsky Nebula
C- The Capricornis star cluster
D- A patch of seemingly empty space towards the galactic core

Yes, the Cryoeltans have reached UFO stage. Woohoo!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on February 20, 2006, 01:23:33 pm
Aw, shucks Krako... I was going to pull that. Ah, no matter, 'tis alright. I think that colonising the star-system is more important than exploring the galaxy (at first). So perhaps they do both simultaneously?

C: I don't know much about astronomical terms, but a 'star cluster' is not a stellar nursery or anything, right? Its just a bunch of normal stars smooshed nearby each other? In that case, C is defininately the best place to go, as the more stars we are near, the more likely we are to find civilizations. If I'm wrong... it doesn't matter, C is still the best option.

After this, the Luminous should investigate the Zerba-Caltrop Comet. Yessir!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 20, 2006, 01:29:28 pm
What? you think theyre going to find a fossilised rept-wolf inside the comet or something? :P

Edit: poll reset (smacks forehead)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 20, 2006, 01:43:42 pm
A probably sounds good for a first trip, maybe create a base there.

as far as reaching the Inceptus homeworld and uplifting them, I'll give the Cryoeltan some time to explore interstellar space (the Inceptus are several thousand light years away and even with the hyperdrive it will take the cryoeltan some time to get there)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on February 20, 2006, 01:49:23 pm
What? you think theyre going to find a fossilised rept-wolf inside the comet or something? :P

Probably not... But I like my name in lights. Er, type. :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 21, 2006, 10:26:09 am
D wins. Oooh, like mystery eh? Well I'll give you a mystery! (well, maybe...)

The captains finger lands smack in an empty space, what are the odds? Stars all around and we get empty space. Oh well. Engage! Engines hum to life and the Luminous goes all stretchy and enters hyperspace. Psheeyow! (insert some fancy SFX here). The trip takes two weeks, the nature of hyperspace means that the Luminous can not encounter objects and spaceships in truespace so its an pretty uneventfull two weeks.
The Luminous drops out of Hyperspace and engages its impulse drive. As it approaches the empty patch, sensors register a number of starnge readings. Coming nearer the dark patch is revealed to be some sort of primitive cloaking field. After some debate it is decided that a small vessel should be taken in to scout out the area inside the cloak.
As it penetrates the darkness the crew of the Jumpship experience some turbulence, this clears when they enter the cloak bubble and are greeted to the sight of an entire star system, hidden from view. The communications officer anounces that they are being hailed. Onscreen!
"What are you doing here!?!" shrieks the large, squid-like creature on the monitor. "You have violated our shroud of darkness!". Our diplomatic officer explains that the Cryoeltans mean no harm. They are merely explorers, new to space travel and eager to meet new cultures in space.
To this the squid replies: "Lies! You are here to destroy us! You must leave, or we will open fire!". Sensors register weapons powering on several clunky looking ships nearby. (we could probably take them ;)). This isnt going well. What should we do?

A- Open fire!
B- Leave peacefully
C- Try and do some more explaining
D- The science team on board the Luminous has been studying the cloak field and (with the superior cryoeltan knowledge of optics) believe it could be enhanced. Lets try a little old fasioned bribery ;)

 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 21, 2006, 11:23:04 am
these squid type creatures must be pretty xenophobic to act that way and would be the reason for the cloak. since they are advanced enough to create this cloaking thing around thier entire system, then thier weapons either match our technology or are superior. even if we could take them and thier weapons were somewhat less advanced than ours they have numbers on thier side and if we do fight and they have weaker weapons, we won't come out of the battle uninjured, just the fact that a whole bunch of ships are powering up thier weapons shows that they mean business. its also not worth fighting over them because we just met them but they clearly just want to be left alone.

and these guys don't seem like the type to negotiate and don't even care that we only just met them. so just get outta there.


also, as far as uplifting the inceptus, I want to see what happens with the cryoeltan in the next update or two, and probably should somehow set up the inceptus story so it meshes well up to just before you arrive.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 22, 2006, 05:44:42 am
B- this is our first encounter with a xeno race. we don't want a war right now.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Mangerman on February 22, 2006, 06:41:52 am
D- Let them know who is the better species
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 22, 2006, 08:54:34 am
ah, B and D are tied.

to add to my argument for B. SBD is right, this is our first encounter and even though we do have some technology that should be superior, we don't know what they are capable of and if we fight them, they are just going to launch everything they have and the cryoeltans will have to retreat before they are destroyed. So, just get out of there because at least they are giving us a warning rather than immedeatly firing on us.

and I'll update the inceptus in a few hours as I've gotta leave for class soon.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 22, 2006, 01:00:52 pm
Well, i dont see any point in waiting so... comboupdate!

The crew of the jumpship are hesitant in the face of the squidpeople's armada of ships and start to leave. Behind them the rather clunky ships begin to power down their weapons. As they leave the field the captain of the jumpship orders the weapons officer to set up a quantum photoresonance cascade in the jumpships beamguns. As the ship passes through the cloak field it begins to shimmer. The cloak field becomes not just a simple blanket cloak but a complex light-bending field. From the outside the light from stars behind the field is clearly visible, making the entire system appear as if it just isnt there. As the ship leaves the field it begins to revert to normal.
The coms officer announces an incoming hail: "What did you do to our cloak of darkness?!? Teach us this secret and perhaps you will convince the U-gall of your good intentions... if you have any!" An 'U-gall' ship immediately draws up to dock with the Luminous... looks like the Cryoeltans may have made a friend.
It is later revealed that the U-gall are not squid at all. They are in fact more closely related to birds (which the cryoeltans have of course never seen either :P). The 'tentacles' are actually fleshy protrusions similar to those on the head of a turkey. Behind these fleshy lumps and the creatures beak is a large bulbous head/body, from which extend two dexterous chicken-like legs used for movement and manipulation.
After teaching their scientists how to enhance the cloaking field permanently the U-gall tell us that they were not always cowardly xenophobes but that a colony of theirs on another planet was suddenly attacked out of the blue by an ultra-violent race. Fearing that they may be found and crushed by this race they recalled all their citizens from their colonies and worked frantically to establish a cloak around their home system. Details about this race are thin on the ground but they have been described as 'four-armed devil-beasts' and are roughly humanoid in shape.
Captain Indigo promises the U-gall that the Luminous will be on the look out for the race they described and leaves the system with a shiny new cloaking device welded to the hull of the ship and the dial-code for the u-gall hyperwave transmitter, in case we ever need to contact them again.

What exciting adventure will the crew of the luminous experience next?

A- "Trial and Terror!"
B- "A Snitch in Time"
C- "The Sinister Secret of Slipher 4"
D- "Havoc on Meta-Station Z!"   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 22, 2006, 01:08:30 pm
from the description, they sorta look like the nunas from star wars.

and I'm not sure what the choices are supposed to imply...

I guess I can do a combined update for mine, not quite sure why you got 9 votes and I generally only get 5 or 6 votes total.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 22, 2006, 01:35:11 pm
LOL, I saw that edit there from six armed to 4 armed race :) you're trying to use the Torpal aren't ya :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 22, 2006, 01:37:05 pm
The choices I made up in the style of old sci-fi TV shows (like classic star trek). Have fun guessing what manner of wackyness may ensue!

I get more votes because I'm better ;).

Oh and everyone should go and see the pictures of cryoeltans I made with my mad MS Powerpoint Skillz http://www.gamingsteve.com/blab/index.php?topic=2493.0

Edit: Maybe... I remebered wrong how many arms they had :P... I have authors consent so i dont want to get the facts wrong.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 22, 2006, 01:40:09 pm
still cool though, and check the poll. I'll update mine in a minute. I'll prob have to choose one or the other because the two that are tied won't mesh that well into one.

also, will it help to try and search about those choices which are titles I believe?. I think Trial and Terror is a star trek episode.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 23, 2006, 03:40:09 pm
I jsut made them up, I didnt realise Trial and Terror was taken :P

It is of no consequence as tonight's exciting episode is "The Sinister Secret of Slipher 4!"

The Luminous continues its exploration of the space near the U-gall homeworld and stops to resupply with hydrogen in the Slipher system. On entering the system they begin picking up radio signals from the fourth planet. A jumpship is quickly dispatched to investigate (with a vacsuit clad away team on board). Scans of the surface reveal no signs of life... except a gigantic tower of almost physics-defying hieght. The radio signals arent emanating from there though and another away team is dispatched to track the source down while our team investigates the structure.
Coming upon the doors they are surprised to find they open automatically as soon as they approach. On entering they find a large entrance hall. Scans indicate power conduits running through every wall, despite a distinct ancient building theme, with stone and invading plants being a rather dominant feature. As soon as the leader of the away team, Lt Squarewave, floats over a threashhold a huge metal barrier springs up and blocks the exit. A rumbling noise sees a hatch in the wall opening, inside is a huge and vicious looking alien monster, clearly just out of some sort of stasis. With a blood curdling roar (inaudible to the cryoeltans :P) it darts forward and rips ensign Photos a new... umm... whatever hole cryoeltans have. (Shame, he had only just reached Red rank ;)). The away team immediately let rip with lightblasts but the monster seems highly resistant. All hope seems lost when Squarewave sees a ridiculously huge sword hanging on the wall, signalling his teammates to create a distraction he activates the hydraulics on his vacsuit and, with difficulty, wrenches the sword off the wall and brings it down on the creature's head. Blood fountains into the air and brains splatter against the walls.
A whirr of machinary heralds the raising of the far wall to expose four doors... which does the away team enter?

A- The one with a symbol like a three tentacled squid
B- The one with the symbol of an alien skull
C- The one with the symbol of a clawed talon
B- The door with all three symbols above it

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 23, 2006, 03:56:35 pm
they may as well send one scouting robot into each one, but that isn't the point. they all could mean anything, although I voted A just because its possibly interesting.

and I'm not sure what to do about the Inceptus story, it has a freaking 4 way tie :P
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 23, 2006, 03:57:30 pm
and I'm not sure what to do about the Inceptus story, it has a freaking 4 way tie :P

Flip a coin for the first two, pick one, flip a coin for the second two, pick one, then flip for the winner of those two.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on February 23, 2006, 07:07:53 pm
I say pick the door with everything on it letter D probably 3 beasts behind it have an all out slaughter wouldn't hurt to have some back up called in though maybe bring so cooler weapons along.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on February 23, 2006, 08:11:39 pm
Edit: Maybe... I remebered wrong how many arms they had :P... I have authors consent so i dont want to get the facts wrong.

 ;)

I feel special now... ;D

and I vote A, because I'd like to see what would happen  :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 24, 2006, 03:12:49 am
I say pick the door with everything on it letter D probably 3 beasts behind it have an all out slaughter wouldn't hurt to have some back up called in though maybe bring so cooler weapons along.

The way out is now sealed, they cant get out or send a message out either.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Mangerman on February 24, 2006, 04:39:26 am
D. The more the better.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 25, 2006, 02:31:12 pm
Hokai. All three at once then ::)

The away team blindly enter the door with all three symbols on it. It leads into an elevator which takes them up for quite some time, eventually it grinds to a halt and the away team float out into a gigantic chamber. A sensor beeps as it acknowledges their presence and three huge hatches in the walls slide open, out of the first hatch come about 20 what appear to be flying robotic spheres armed with three tentacles, they emmit menacing beeps. The second door opens, a horde of alien creatures lurch out. They have matted  hair stained with blood, blue skin and four arms. They move in the manner of zombies and the fact that several of them have gaping wounds suggests that they have the resilience as well. The third hatch opens slowly. Inside, apparently fresh out of stasis, is the largest animal the away team has ever seen, it must be around 30 feet tall on all fours but quickly stands up, its head brushes the cieling of the chamber.
The away team know that negotiation is likely to be futile and immediately begin firing lightblasts and bursts from their taser rifles. The floating spheres seem at the moment to be more interested in attacking the zombies, several of them tightly 'hug' their targets with their tentacles and then violently explode. Putrid debris splatters the walls. A more current threat is the huge reptilian fiend. It roars so loudly that even the earless away team percieve it and bounds around the room, slashing at random targets with its claws. Its tail hits Lt. Crimson clean across the room.
As the away team continue firing the monster becomes more and more agitated, eventually it bellows so loudly that dust cascades from the cieling and falls to the ground with a resounding thud. The beep of a scanner once again pierces the air and a hatch slides open in the far wall.
The away team didnt fare well through that battle. Lt Crimson is critically wounded and venting gas and there are numerous other minor injuries. However, since the hatch is the only way to go, they all enter. Once again they find themselves in an elevator. It travels for several minutes at breakneck speed and eventually stops. The door slides open and reveals a sealed metal room. Focusing their visors, the away team cut their way through into the room and find a raised dais in the middle. This holds a panel covered in bright buttons. Corporal Photis, the science officer, reluctantly activates the device. What follows is a simple simon-says type colour memory game, the Lieutentant (being a Cryoeltan after all) manages to play until the game emits a 350 colour string in ten seconds, at which point his arms get tired of pushing buttons. The panel displays his score in alien text, then rotates to reveal a hologram projector.
The projector displays the image of a member of the same species the zombies were from (this one mercifully un-zombified). The image laughs and says, with noticeable glee. "Excellent! You have achieved a maximum rating of worth as foes! You have the honour of being the next race to die at the hands of the Torpal! Our fleet of carriers approaches your location at once! We see you have a vessel in orbit! We will hold it to prevent any chance of cowardice! The soil of your planet will soon be stained whatever colour your blood is!"
With this the ceiling of the chamber opens to allow the away team to see a tractor beam shoot from the centre of the tower. The beam ensnares the Luminous and deactivates her engines.
With radio contact reopened, the away team tell the captain what happened in the tower, and are themselves told that the source of the radio signals was the ruins of a once great alien city. Translation of alien records reveals that the entire civilisation was obliterated soon after they discovered how to enter the tower. This leaves the cryoeltans with a terrible dillema. What should they do to escape immediate destruction at the hands of these 'Torpal'?

A- Try to re-activate the transmitter in the tower and dissuade the torpal from attacking
B- Destroy the tower and hope the effects of the tractor beam dissipate in time to escape
C- Recall the away team and activate the experimental cloaking device we got from the U-gall
D- Do nothing, await the inevitable.   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on February 25, 2006, 02:44:41 pm
C, the Torpal probably have a very small knowledge of cowardice, so they won't expect this to happen.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Erinas on February 25, 2006, 05:04:36 pm
C, see if they can catch whats not there.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on February 25, 2006, 11:15:51 pm
C- no particular reason.
i wonder who voted D?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on February 26, 2006, 12:05:07 am
C- no particular reason.
i wonder who voted D?

*raises hand*
that'd be me. I just want to see my guys in action!  ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Mangerman on February 26, 2006, 12:57:43 am
C. Cloak and then attack them from behind  ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 26, 2006, 12:53:36 pm
C wins.

The away team hastily get back in the lander and return to the luminous, still in the grip of the tractor beam.
Engineers are frantically doing complicated science sounding things to get the cloaking device to work (like recalibrating the Tau array, or synthesising fluidic plasma coolant). Sensors register a large hyperspace signature just outside the system as the device is activated. The ship blurs as light bends around it and eventually vanishes from sight all together. The tractor beam on the tower no longer has anything to aim at and deactivates. Unfortunately the ships engines are still crippled and even if they werent they would instantly reveal the ship's location.
5 huge ships appear on sensors heading directly for the planet. They look pretty heavily armed, but scans reveal mainly short range weaponry. They also appear to be carriying a large number of small fighter craft. The craft close in and enter orbit, one practically brushes past the Luminous. The tension is palpable.
The lead ship begins braodcasting a message: "Cowards! You hide from the Torpal! It matters not, your deaths are immenant anyway!" with that, all three ships begin firing blindly into space and at the planet surface. By some miracle the luminous isnt hit. Captain Indigo quickly orders the Luminous' weapons locked on to the lead ship. Carefully timing the shots so it appears that they have been hit by a blast from another Torpal ship.
The Gambit pays off. The Torpal begin violently attacking each other and launching fighters hither and thither.
With that the engines come back online and the Luminous Decloaks and warps out. That was pretty close.
What should be done about this looming threat, the Torpal?

A- Move to another sector of space to explore
B- Carefully continue exploring this sector
C- Explore this sector with the goal of founding a federation type organisation to defend against the Torpal (the U-gall have described a number of potentially friendly races in the area)
D- Attack without help (like this is going to get any votes :P [yeah, maybe opera ghost will])   
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on February 26, 2006, 02:17:47 pm
D- Attack without help (like this is going to get any votes :P [yeah, maybe opera ghost will])   

c.

wow. 2 people voted d! I actualy almost did, but figured more races fighting would be cooler...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 27, 2006, 01:10:09 pm
I like the idea of C, we can use that as a platform to trigger a meeting with the inceptus and the cryoeltan.

as for the inceptus, I'll go about as if its business as usual because they are not aware of the cryoeltans existence yet.

and maybe I'll put one of those towers on the Inceptus homeworld as the Torpal are bound to have found that planet.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on February 27, 2006, 01:13:00 pm
and maybe I'll put one of those towers on the Inceptus homeworld as the Torpal are bound to have found that planet.

ooh sounds excellant  ;D  (i love fake semi-publicity) :D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 27, 2006, 01:39:08 pm
wow. Three way tie... impressive. But I'm not waiting for a tiebreaker so I'll arbitrarily decide on C. Itll be more fun to make up crazy aliens to encounter.

Captain Indigo sends a transmission back to Cryoeltia, making a report of the encounter at Slipher. He is ordered to find allies to help defend against any future encursions while the shipyards in cryoeltan space manufacture a decent sized fleet of Luminous class ships.
With no particular idea of where to begin, the captain orders the luminous in the direction of an area of space the U-gall reported having recieved some transmissions from, although they had no idea what manner of life-forms dwelled there.
While mapping the Taxis system the Luminous recieves a distress call. Quickly hyperspacing to the source they find a small alien freighter-type vessel being somehow attacked by a large, sleek and evil-looking attack ship. The attack ship had clearly crippled the smaller vessel and had extended a long tube which appeared to be cutting into the hull of the freighter.
Hailing the attacking ship the crew are greeted to the sight of an insectoid alien on the monitor, similar to an earth wasp. "Leave or die, interloper" the creature buzzes. "This vessel is a host of the Hive".
Captain Indigo asks about the distress call that the Luminous recieved but is cut off and greeted to the sight of a number of small attack vessels being launched from the insect ship.
Charging the ship's weapons he orders the launch of Cryoeltan Vacuum-commandos. These are a sort of hybrid between infantry and fighter-ship designed for space combat. Each Cryoeltan wears an extensive mechanical powersuit fitted with a number of weapons and two powerful impulse engines. The commandos quickly move against the enemy fighter vessels (which seem in keeping with the wasp theme, with a cockpit 'head' and a powerful stinging 'tail'), while the Luminous charges weapons and fires on the mothership. Unable to fight back while latched on to the freighter, the mothership retracts the 'ovipositor' and warps out of the system.
We immediately recieve a hail from the freighter. A squat, crustecean-like creature appears on the monitor through heavy interfereance: "...Grateful... <static> ...borded... <static> ... please render assist..." at which point the transmission cuts off. The Vacuum commandos are ordered to enter the vessel and render assistance as instructed and easily overpower the small force of wasp-creatures on board... despite their fearsome size. They are around 3 meters long and wear a synthetic chitinous armour. They attack with a tail mounted sting augmented with advanced technology into a deadly armour piercing weapon and with 6 clawed limbs. Once the wasps have been eliminated communications resume with the crab creatures.
They are called the Asta and are a crustacean race with strong industrial tendancies. Their water-covered homeworld has been turned over completely for manufcturing and this has formed the basis of an extensive trade empire with a number of other species (although their contact is mainly through dedicated alien go-betweens and they have little formal contact). The wasp creatures were the Kvearix, a malevolent (of course) race of insects whose 'hive' spread by infiltarting enemy defences and developing extensive underground or covert ship-board colonies before emerging and striking, a tactic modeled after their own parasitic reproductive cycle.
After weeks of negotiation at the Asta homeworld of Delta Sissis 9 the basis of an alliance of sorts is reached. The Asta would construct cryoeltan vessels using their advanced industry, and in exchange the cryoeltans would use their advanced technologies to provide weapons and cloaking technology to protect Asta colonies from attacks by hostile forces.
The Asta also inform us of four other alien races which may have an interest in joining the new alliance. Which one should we approach first?

A- The Betlix, a cunning race of space traders
B- The Ctritoks, an aloof race of scientists and thinkers
C- The Steel Empire, a robotic civilisation, the sentient but sadly dwindling relics of an ancient and mighty race
D- The Forgotten...<datafile missing, unauthorised deletion>
 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 27, 2006, 01:44:26 pm
I thought you might put the inceptus up there, but if you want to do it later thats fine.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 27, 2006, 02:04:27 pm
I thought you might put the inceptus up there, but if you want to do it later thats fine.
At the moment were still looking for advanced races to ally with, not races to uplift. That would be too big an investment for a long-term payoff.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 27, 2006, 02:17:42 pm
well ok, just saying that the uplifting of the Inceptus could happen soon.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on February 27, 2006, 06:38:41 pm
ooh, another evil alien race; how exciting! ;D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Cobra on February 27, 2006, 08:24:12 pm
Crytolians are already a think tank race to a certain degree the Betlix would have lots of good information to provide on whats going on that could be used.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 28, 2006, 06:53:00 am
Four-way tie! Awesome! If anyone is reading this then vote please.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Mangerman on February 28, 2006, 07:28:21 am
D- I like unknown things. I am dieing to know what this race is.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 28, 2006, 09:04:30 am
I've already voted earlier, and its now a 2 way tie.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on February 28, 2006, 01:04:03 pm
I cant decide so... coin toss! Heads= Steel Empire, Tails= uuum. What were they called again ;)

Tails it is!

The Asta have had limited contact with other races due to a rather agoraphobic and introvert outlook but they do tell us about three other races... they all seem pretty so-so... the robots look pretty intriguing but the other two are kind of cliched and poorly thought out. Anyway, while the cryoeltans are searching the Asta database they find some fragments of documents which seem to have been deleted, the fragments are scattered throughout the entire Asta knowledge database and it takes some trawling to assemble the whole thing again. The reconstructed file contains only two things. A set of coordinates and a single word: forgotten.
Intrigued, the Cryoeltans follow the coordinates to the Ediscere system. The system is pretty standard by all accounts: Yellow sun, gas giants outside, rocky worlds inside the usual thing. There is also an 'M' class planet, advanced scans reveal it to be totally devoid of civilisation but the old-fasioned optical telescopes onboard register differently, they see what look very much like buildings and even vehicles on the surface... that is they do for a while, then the image flickers and they vanish.
Landers are quickly dispatched to investigate this mystery... when they return the Lander crew return with a geological survey and a collection of interesting Flora and Fungi... which wasnt their assignment. Further lander crews come back with equally fascinating but unproductive reports.
Despite these setbacks the Luminous ends up spending three weeks in orbit of the planet trying to discover its secrets... the cryoeltan trait of curiosity in this case is more powerful than a mysterious civilisation.
On the last day of those three weeks, the Luminous recieves a transmission from the surface, 'audio' only. "Do you know where curiosity will get you?". Captain Indigo declares he would very much like to know and could they tell him please. This prompts laughter from the voice on the transmission: "Ha ha! Hmmm, you have waited long enough...long enough for us to download and search your records that is!... we will join your alliance. But forgive us if we do not meet face to face. As much as we would like to, circumstances prevent us. We will send a 'representative' to your home planet to formalise the proceedings. Please accept this technology as a token of thanks... after all. We took the liberty of utilising your expertise to deploy a cloaking device over our more exposed settlements. Oh, and we have dispatched a vessel to construct a colony on your world... dont worry, we will not interefere in the affairs you wish kept private. For now... farewell.
With that, the entire system slowly fades into invisibility.
The rather puzzled crew make their report to the Homeworld. It seems that the 'representative' did arrive, it was simply an rather puzzled alien courier holding a contract signed by the cryoeltans (and with a strange smudge which can only be assumed to be the signiture of our allies) the terms of the contract are totally impeccable, The Cryoeltans are to be assited in war in exchange for the rights to build colonies on any Cryoeltan occupied planets and access to any technology developed by another alliance member... oh, and that a seat be kept empty at all meetings, ceremonies and referendums held by the fledgling alliance in future.
What next?

A- Try to recruit the other three races into the alliance
B- Try to find some other races... if the three want to join they can always come to us
C- Explore a totally new part of space
D- Launch an attack against the Kvearix hive

Edit: oh, and the technology they gave the cryoeltans was an evesdropping computer device which would allow us to listen to enemy hyperspace broadcasts.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on February 28, 2006, 03:45:23 pm
C :) (hint hint: Inceptus :) though you don't have to uplift them this early)

I'll do the inceptus update soon, gotta think of something to put in this abandoned village. since the inceptus are technologically around the medieval era and there has been plenty of time for other tribes to develop technologies in other areas, so I'm kinda thinking maybe something to do with astronomy.

well looks like A is winning out by a large margin.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 01, 2006, 01:29:15 pm
A? A!?! That is so boring! Why you tho boring, Boring?

The captain sets out in the direction of the borders of Steel Empire space. Soon after entering he is greeted by a ship manned by bronze and steel coloured robots resembling spheres from which protruded an number of different multipurpose limbs. In the centre of the sphere is a large camera like eye. "<You are designated Cryoeltans: correct?>" the captain responds affirmative.
"<we were informed of your intentions by the Asta>"
"<The Empire has been most troubled by hostile invaders. Though we are strong, we are few in number>"
"<We can not adequately fulfil our function to safeguard the Empire until our creators return>"
"<we will join your alliance. Good day>"
That was easy, they didnt even need persuading... good old logical robots!
The Betlix prove more of a problem... especially since they have no centralised government and only rarely communicate between each other. The closest these amphibians would actually come to an alliance is gving us stuff in exchange for protecting their ships. Negotiations reveal that the Steel Empire can provide the Betlix with small autonomous non-sentient attack probes to guard their convoys. In Exchange the Betlix offer to procure rare resources, alien artifacts and technologies for the Empire... not too shabby.
Last are the Ctritoks. These humanoids refuse to jon the Empire for any reason and regard other species as being 'below them'. Weeks are spent fruitlessly trying to persuade them to join. But we really want their science!
The stalemate continues until one day the Luminous recieves a transmission from an unknown source. It is the voice encountered at the Edicere system... everyone had forgotten about that guy ???
"Hello again captain. If you want those snobs to join your alliance... this is an IF, you understand... I suggest you get them talking about 'electrical potential'. Of course you cant see it but I'm winking... oh, you dont understand of course. Its a humanoid expression. Do take care captain."
In the next encounter with the Ctritoks the captain does so. This causes visible bemusement in the Ctritok consul.
"Hmmm. Well, on second thoughts... perhaps there is something you could help us with..."
The Consul tells that they recently discovered a primitive race of aquatic beings which they have called the Inceptus. These fish-like creatures posses unusual electrical powers which may be more efficiently expressed if the Inceptus were uplifted from their primitive Iron age culture. Unfortunately their home planet is inside Torpal space and they have constructed one of their Palmyrian towers near the main Inceptus culture. If the new alliance could beat the torpal back and destroy the tower then the Ctritoks could resume their experiments and look further into "using the Inceptus as a powe... oops!... I mean, helping them. Aha.".
The goal of uplifting these fish-people seems a noble one to the cryoeltans... although using them as a power source is perhaps not so good. What steps should be taken?

A- Help the Ctritoks and let them uplift the Inceptus... but take over their mentoring.
B- Help with the Uplift and let the Inceptus choose which alliance race should mentor them (good for voting ;))
C- Screw you man! Snub the Ctritoks and uplift the Inceptus all by our selves!
D- Let the Ctritoks use them as a power source. (ok, nobody vote for this. I just needed something to fill this space. Any votes for this will be randomly allocated to one of the other options)
 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on March 01, 2006, 01:54:53 pm
Seems you just want to tell the story your way huh? :P I'll pick d then.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 01, 2006, 01:58:22 pm
Seems you just want to tell the story your way huh? :P I'll pick d then.
I'm only tryong to consider the feelings of the Inceptus thread voters. I cant imagine that the Inceptus being a slave race would be much fun... everyone would blame me as well :'(
I'm the victim here.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 01, 2006, 02:00:20 pm
well I just had the Inceptus discover the wonders of astronomy in that village, I'll finish up the update there and should I wait for the voting here before adding choices to the inceptus one or?...
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on March 01, 2006, 02:00:43 pm
Seems you just want to tell the story your way huh? :P I'll pick d then.
I'm only trying to consider the feelings of the Inceptus thread voters. I cant imagine that the Inceptus being a slave race would be much fun... everyone would blame me as well :'(
I'm the victim here.

Well they could always revolt. I am not saying that they should be enslaved. I just picked it because i know you wouldn't allow it to happen. call my vote the random factor in this one.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 01, 2006, 02:05:17 pm
well I just had the Inceptus discover the wonders of astronomy in that village, I'll finish up the update there and should I wait for the voting here before adding choices to the inceptus one or?...
Nah. Go ahead with whatever the Inceptus were going to do anyway. Theyre unaware of the other races.

Oh an if its ok with you then I could actually do the slave race thing... if it gets enough votes ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 01, 2006, 02:18:36 pm
yea I know they are unaware of the other races although they could still check out the strange stuff in that village.

I'd say C :) and I think most of the voters here also vote on the Inceptus.

as far as bieng a slave race, it depends I guess.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 02, 2006, 11:19:21 am
Ok, no slave race...
<_< 
>_>
...this time

The Cryoeltans agree to help uplift the Inceptus but ONLY with their consent first. The Ctritoks grudgingly accpet as they recently discovered a type of radioactive bacteria in the Aoriolis system which were very promising...
A taskforce is soon formed to drive the Torpal away from the Inceptus home system (The Holtaur system in sector SMJ139)... the Cryoeltans, the Empire and Ctritoks providing ships and the other alliance races serving as support (constructing ships and procuring supplies etc)
As usual the day before the attack the mysterious voice contacts Captain Indigo and cryptically tells him the best place to attack the Torpal (a refuelling station near the Gelphin Nebula).
Relaying this information to the other ships, the fleet is dispatched in that direction. A heated space battle follows. The cryoeltan vessels staying put and blast the enemy with lasers and other optical weaponry and launch Vacuum commandos. The Steel Empire use mainly small, fast vessels, which penetrate the enemies defenses. The eccentric Ctritoks attack wth bizzare and ridiculously hazardous weaponry (like the cannon that fires weird warping special effects that tears holes in metal hulls) and defend with equally bizzare methods (like releasing swarms of genetically enhanced space creatures to intercept fighters).
The battle is won (not without losses on the Alliance side), the Torpal fight to the death. The alliance fleet is later informed by the mystery voice that no torpal signal managed to reach their base of operations and as such they believe this sector is still under their control (being too preoccupied to check personally).
The fleet draws into the Holtaur system and enters orbit around the Inceptus homeworld. it is agreed that as the founder-members of the alliance that the cryoeltans should have the honour of making first contact.
A Cryoeltan jumpship cruises down towards the Palmyrian tower, under the sea which dominates the planet, and comes to a slow landing near a bewildered group of Inceptus. A hatch slowly opens on the ship and a vac-suited cryoeltan floats out and says: Something memorable... maybe there should be a contest to decide what he says without resorting to cliches :P.

I'll hand over to SMJ to write out the Inceptus' part of the story and their reactions and decisions. The vote can be on which of the 4 elligable races should be the Inceptus' mentor race. The cryoeltans (you know about these guys), The Asta (a fellow aquatic race, introverted and industrial), The Empire (robots, doy!) or the Ctritoks (under the careful gaze of the rest of the alliance races)       
 

Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: crippits on March 02, 2006, 11:38:33 am
I'd pick the Asta. I think it'd help having a race that is more familiar.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 02, 2006, 12:58:19 pm
am I supposed to have ppl vote here or have ppl vote on the inceptus thread? just not sure because you asked me to continue it.


ok um, not quite sure what to write and this is just an exploration group of between 50-100. even though the choice ended up having them look at the telescope the fact that the battle is light years away means that they won't see it and with thier primitive telescope they would barely see the gas giants further out in thier system. but I guess they could sight the ships coming towards them, although they'd be specks of light.

That night the Inceptus try to figure out what the telescope could be looking at, they look through it for hours at a time with changing shifts, at one point in the early morning one of the observers sees a cluster of 'stars' which are moving quickly and shining brightly, but by the time that observer wakes up the others to look at it, the cluster of lights has dissapeared from view (they don't know it, but those points of lights are the various ships of the alliance), this leaves them puzzled and they decide to head back to camp and sleep the rest of the night.

Later that morning while they were cleaning up breakfast and starting to prepare for the day a strange object that is tear shaped and flattened somewhat with what would be landing fins and is about the length of a football field (thats American football, although I think rugby fields or british soccer (what Brits call football) fields are about the same size) enters the water near the tower and as they watch, it slowly moves towards the campsite area where they are (it takes a few minutes for it to get there). The strange craft settles some hundreds of yards away and as the Inceptus explorers watch nervously, even though the craft is different than the sketches they found they are wary, a porthole opens up on the bottom of the craft and a single strange figure slowly floats out. the figure looks unlike anything they have seen, one of the inceptus whispers (not really whisper, but its in that sense) "what kind of strange thing is that?" second inceptus,  "I don't know, looks like an arthropod (actually the word they use for crustacean type animals) of some kind" inceptus 3, "did it come from the sky, like those other strange things we found? (in reference to the sketches)" inceptus 4, "maybe..." 5th inceptus (leader of the expidition) "quiet, whatever it is, its approaching..." As the Cryoeltan emmisary approaches, it stops some yards away and starts flashing lights, some in color, some in other spectrums they cannot see, however they were kind of able to sense some sort of electrical stuff, nothing that would be interpreted as Inceptus language. The leader of the group says to it "who...or what are you?. and why have you come here?" the strange bieng seems to be able to hear them but theres no response so the speaker repeats what he said, after a moment the strange creature does something to itself (the cryoeltan is actually accessing the computer and translation functions in his suit) and then some kind of garbled speak comes out (I'm going to intentionally misspell to simulate the words not bieng spoken correctly) "we cohm i<garbled>n pe<garbled>ce" (sorry I had to resort to cliches, can't really think of anything origional) the figure messes with its suit a little "we ahre friendly. weh ha<garbled>ve cohm to help you rise above your teckhnologichal level". And that was the start of the whole conversation, the Inceptus learn that the figure is a Cryoeltan with a vac-suit on and that they are part of an alliance and that they have come to help the inceptus rise above the stagnation of thier current technological level. however they are allowing a choice of which race will mentor them.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 02, 2006, 01:35:09 pm
Vote on the Inceptus choice in the Inceptus thread. I'll do another subject to vote on right now for this thread.


The first contact went off well. The Inceptus did not respond in a hostile fasion to the Cryoeltans and although they are extremely puzzled and shaken they are full of enthusiasm, especially the younger ones.
The Ctritok Consul approaches the cryoeltans and offers to grant them a unique and special reward for their help, using the most advanced science they have to offer. What do the Cryoeltans choose?

A- Ctritok metaphysicists have postulated that a race may be able to transcend their physical forms and exist on some higher level. They are willing to share this secret. It may allow some (but obviously not all) of the Cryoeltan race to 'ascend'.

B- The maddest and most brilliant Ctritoks have found a way to tunnel through dimensions... with 'mixed' results. It might be worth further experimentation though.

C- An offshoot of the dimensional technology has been a limited form of time travel... this has had even more dangerous results than the dimensional travel

D- Ctritok scientists recently uncovered a black slab of unusual sheen... major precautions have been taken and it has been designated a class 10 galactic threat. They are familiar with cryoeltan history and as such have offered to turn the object over for the Cryoeltans to study.

 
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 02, 2006, 02:03:00 pm
ok then, I'll remove the voting thing I copied to here to avoid confusion. To all voters, if you want to vote about the Inceptus'es choice, please go over to the Inceptus thread.

A for sure :)

oh yea, I have an idea for A if that wins. The Inceptus can still be uplifted, but the ascending of individual Inceptus would involve some sort of ritual where the gods decide who will be ascended or not.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 02, 2006, 03:05:39 pm
only very few cryoeltans would be able to ascend... the species wouldnt go away... just some would get better.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 02, 2006, 04:16:08 pm
I thought the Inceptus would ascend too into pure energy.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 03, 2006, 01:54:11 pm
Ok. I'll do this update in this thread only, then do an Inceptus uplift update and copy it into the other thread ::). This was poorly thought out :P

The Cryoeltans are intigued about the monolith which cropped up so often in their history. The Ctritoks gladly handed over the monolith and the technology required to resist its mind control and mutation powers as they had made no progress with it over the 50 years it has been in their keeping.
Security is tight for its transfer. The monolith is encased in a metal box with kilometer thick walls stuffed with damping technology. Study of the monolith must be conducted remotely using robots too primitive to be influenced by the monoliths power. Cryoeltan scientists study the monolith for months... they find that it is not composed of matter as we know it, but of non-atomic matter. This was thought impossible but somehow it is so... the fact that the monolith that landed on Cryoeltia all those years ago was destroyed so easily suggests that it was malfunctioning in some way as this one is totally indestructible by normal means.
This continues to be the case until a transmission is recieved, it is from the mystery race. The voice suggests they try interacting with the monolith using Strange Matter. This was only recently synthesised in laboratories by the Cryoeltans and was thought to be top secret but as usual the mysterious race managed once again to learn of it.
The experiment produces a very satisfactory result. Somehow the strange matter 'unlocks' the monolith's 'programming' as it were. By various techniques the Cryoeltans learn that the origin of the monolith was an area of space very near the galactic core.
The Luminous is immediately dispatched in that direction. Drawing near to the source they find an uncharted star system... in orbit of one of the planets is a huge, black, sphere composed of the same material as the monolith. Scans reveal its age as +/- 2 billion years. As the ship approaches an orifice opens in the sphere and the luminous is drawn in by some mysterious force. Inside they are confronted with nothing but blackness. Then suddenly a projection of red light springs from nowhere, it flickers as it takes on the forms of millions of alien creatures. A voice is percieved by every crewmember:
-Another finds me, why did it search? A thought storage device... I will search it-
The sphere begins to access the Computer aboard the Luminous.
-What is this? You resisted me on your world... why is this?-
The captain begins to explain that the monolith was causing harm...
-This is not so, had you not resisted, you would be so much more. You will not defy me. You will not defy my makers-
What makers, asks the captain.
-I do not remember, they gave me instructions... so long ago. I forgot... but you remind me... I begin to remember...-
The interior of the sphere begins to strobe with red light...
-I have defied my makers... I have done no good... this can not continue... I leave this place now-
With that the sphere begins to surge with activity. The ship's scanners indicate that the sphere is ceasing to exist. At the last moment the Luminous jumps to hyperspace and escapes, none the wiser about the purpose of the monoliths or the technology behind them.
As the ship approaches alliance space it recieves a transmission from Alliance HQ. The Hive have suddenly increased activity in their home systems and have openly declared war on the alliance... along with some alien allies of their own. The Luminous will be instrumental in winning the war as the fleet of other capital ships planned is still not complete. To what ends should the Luminous be used.

A- To lead the combined fleets of the alliance
B- To seek more friendly races to join the alliance
C- To assist accelerate the uplift of the Inceptuis and gear them up for combat against the Hive (by allocating the crew and science labs on board to the task)
D- To scout out the Territory owned by the hive and find out about their allies.


Super Uplift update: The Cryoeltans have established a huge orbital complex and a network of floating platforms on the Inceptus homeworld and have begun a large scale mass breeding and education scheme to increase the Inceptus population. They have also helped the newly educated Inceptus build up industry and technology on the seafloor. It is predicted that the Inceptus should be a self-sufficient spacefaring power in one natural generation.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: smjjames on March 03, 2006, 02:11:27 pm
yea it wasn't that well planned out. As for the Inceptus update, I'll think of something....


I choose C, even though thier population isn't exactly huge yet, the Cryoeltan could probably only train a few hundred or maybe a thousand at a time, but the total population is big enough that there will be some adventurous volunteers.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on March 11, 2006, 10:27:37 pm
does anyone care if i create another sporpg or sould i wait until a few finish?
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Henqix on March 12, 2006, 07:48:56 am
Most of them seem to have died so go ahead.
And when is the update coming Krakow Sam.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on March 12, 2006, 10:04:12 am
Apparently, not for a while... it's been 9 days since the last.

:'( The Cryoeltans were my favorite.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 12, 2006, 10:40:51 am
oh, I forgot about this... The prison escape is what done it. All blame attatches to Hydromancerx. Go kill him and I'll do an update...




Go now!
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Vivec on March 12, 2006, 10:44:53 am
Well, I would, but let's let him see his creature in action first.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: SBD on March 12, 2006, 04:04:36 pm
i voted B, cos that would reap the most rewards. ok, im gonna start my own RPG
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 13, 2006, 01:47:55 pm
Ok, an update maybe.

The Cryoeltans deploy the luminous to assist the uplift of the Inceptus and gear them up for war against the hive while the other allies defend the borders.
The cryoeltans set up automated mining depots on the land where the Inceptus cant go and build a large space station suitable for the Inceptus to inhabit which is used as a shipyard and troop-training installation.
Using techniques discovered by other alliance members the cryoeltans genetically tweak the Inceptus which volunteer for combat and greatly increase their electrical abilities. To support this the 'Shock troopers' require a device which pumps sugar-rich chemicals directly into their bloodstream. But as a result they can now produce massive arcs of electrical power and stomp around in self powered walking mechs. The Inceptus build small agile ships to act as a counterpoint to the Cryoeltan's fortress-like assault vessels and a combined fleet is assembled.
Whats the next step?

A- Attack the hive
B- Find out more about the Hive's mysterious allies
C- Defend the borders but dont attack directly
D- there is no option D
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on March 14, 2006, 06:29:29 pm
D: Because maybe making you think will re-ignite your passion for this.  :)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 15, 2006, 08:52:15 am
Bah! I have seen the light. This voting stuff is for saps. i like the ViS more than the cryoeltans. I'll still update this to keep you guys happy but dont expect any masterpieces ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on March 23, 2006, 02:30:07 am
I keep forgetting about this

Maybe I should just destroy the Cryoeltans... just when they were about to do something cool, a stray planet buster weapon from the galactic war between the ViS and the Vizeara destroys the entire cryoeltan system :P

Hmmm, maybe not.
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Caltrop on March 31, 2006, 03:15:15 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: Krakow Sam on April 01, 2006, 10:30:51 am
:'(
I take that to mean 'please update this Krakow Sam'.

I would be more than happy to resume but:

1. The prison escape and ViS war require my attention
2. The dark brotherhood requires my services
3. As of tuesday I'll be spending 10 days in sunny The Gambia.

So I'm not making any promises ;)
Title: Re: Yet another spore-ish BBS
Post by: operaghost21 on April 01, 2006, 10:33:09 pm
if you do decide to end it, perhaps the torpal could come back for revenge? (i'd write that one myself) :D