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Title: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Ultimatum on June 05, 2008, 11:52:06 am
Just a queastion to ask,

I've been on many,many forums,and there is always this rule that states "encouraging piracy on these forums is a big no-no"
On this forum,however;that rule does not exist;could I ask why?

Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: PatMan33 on June 05, 2008, 11:59:08 am
Don't ask, don't tell. Keep it like that.

Do your stuff in private if you do it at all.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Gungnir on June 05, 2008, 11:59:17 am
As far as I know, it is a rule. But discussion about piracy is fine, if you don't condone it or say how exactly to go about doing it. People pirate things; pretending it doesn't happen won't make it go away.

Then again, I'm no official voice on rules, so....
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: LadyM on June 05, 2008, 12:11:44 pm
The discussion of piracy as in issue is okay. The encouragement, posting of links with information, offering information and such is not okay. Piracy comes under the illegal activity part. Thats the way I understand it.

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Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Yuu on June 06, 2008, 11:43:03 pm
               Why does almost everyone here tie stuff with religion? Even sigs have it. I say make a rule that religion be contained in threads concerning them and not somewhere else. ie. Turn the Religion thread into the "Everything Else" of all things concerning religion.

               If some want to be blasphemous, do it somewhere else. For others, it might seem that blasphemy is a victimless crime, but the point is its offensive to the people who believe it. If this continues, I could as well turn my sig into "Homer is a dick. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dick)"


Sorry about that, Homer. My apologies.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Daxx on June 08, 2008, 02:25:37 am
               Why does almost everyone here tie stuff with religion? Even sigs have it. I say make a rule that religion be contained in threads concerning them and not somewhere else. ie. Turn the Religion thread into the "Everything Else" of all things concerning religion.

               If some want to be blasphemous, do it somewhere else. For others, it might seem that blasphemy is a victimless crime, but the point is its offensive to the people who believe it. If this continues, I could as well turn my sig into "Homer is a dick. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dick)"


Sorry about that, Homer. My apologies.

Where does that sort of rule end? Anything that might be ever considered slightly offensive has to go from sigs? What if people are upset about ridiculous retarded-looking ascii art? Can we make people remove that, too?
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Gungnir on June 08, 2008, 06:32:19 am
While I'm not saying we should use the rule that Yuu suggested, comparing something that offends a person's religion to ASCII art isn't exactly the greatest comparison...
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Mr. Consideration on June 08, 2008, 07:03:55 am
While I'm not saying we should use the rule that Yuu suggested, comparing something that offends a person's religion to ASCII art isn't exactly the greatest comparison...

He was intentionally making a silly example of something that might offend people.

As an addition to Yuu's Rule, I'd like to make criticising anything anywhere at anytime a bannable offence, and to outlaw opinions.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Didero on June 08, 2008, 08:09:15 am
As an addition to Yuu's Rule, I'd like to make criticising anything anywhere at anytime a bannable offence, and to outlaw opinions.
I totally agree!

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Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: The Time Traveller on June 08, 2008, 09:55:14 am
I think that's already a rule.  It's the one about staying on topic.  Yuu just suggests we crack down on those who bring things off-topic with religion since that's happened an awful lot lately.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Krakow Sam on June 08, 2008, 03:07:41 pm
No, he's saying we should banish things from signatures, which is totally different.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Brandonazz on June 08, 2008, 03:18:35 pm
Yeah, but who's he talking about anyway?
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Ultimatum on June 08, 2008, 03:20:46 pm
Dunno.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: sgore on June 08, 2008, 04:51:31 pm
That would oust me...
And I'm not even sure what mine means...

Anyway, I'm against censorship, whether or not I like the opinion being expressed. Like Daxx said, where does it end?
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Yuu on June 08, 2008, 06:12:21 pm
               I'm just saying that could we please tone down on this stuff? This site doesn't really generalize on this stuff. We already have several topics in Everything Else for this. Some people are spilling it over to other sections. :-\ One time you're playing the rate the sig above you, and then another, you're bashing other people. :(

               I don't think the phrase "Yay! The Koran is stoopid!" is something that is necessary to say. :(

               I'm not saying that we should ban stuff that discusses about religion "in a mature way". I'm just saying that if someones gonna criticize something, do it like men (figuratively)!

               You can satirize me all you want if you'd like. I just posted here to remind the rules. :( I don't want 1984! Just stop the satirizing!

               And to rephrase what TTT said:

I think that's already a rule.  It's the one about staying on topic. Yuu just suggests we crack down on those who bring things off-topic with religion (in a satirical fashion) since that's happened an awful lot lately.


Where does that sort of rule end? Anything that might be ever considered slightly offensive has to go from sigs? What if people are upset about ridiculous retarded-looking ascii art? Can we make people remove that, too?

Daxx, you really have to distinguish stuff between "Serious business" and "Not so serious business". Do you want to see the United States of America glorify the 911 attacks in which over a thousand people died?
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Brandonazz on June 08, 2008, 06:22:46 pm
Are you saying religion should be exempt from criticism?

Silly and serious aren't always agreed-upon areas.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Daxx on June 08, 2008, 06:29:55 pm
Do you want to see the United States of America glorify the 911 attacks in which over a thousand people died?

As best as I can tell, that is a complete non-sequitur. Seriously, what?

It's really a pointless form of censorship. There's nothing offensive about a signature that proclaims one's own religious beliefs, and I think this is really a case where you should take a look at whether this is "serious business". You've not actually said under what rule you'd like this to come under (and since I presume you mean offensive content, you're not going to get very far with banning all mention of religion in peoples' sigs under that rule which is situational at best), nor, as someone mentioned earlier, have you given any actual examples of what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Yuu on June 08, 2008, 07:27:17 pm
Suit yourselves.

Just wanna add this:

I tell him I'm a complete douche, which is why I still don't believe in him. ;)

 :(
Title: Re: Error 404 Rule not found?
Post by: Daxx on June 08, 2008, 08:13:38 pm
AFAICT you pretty much were asking for that.

If anything, you should be censured by your own request, since you initiated off-topic religion conversation. :P