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Title: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Gungnir on February 17, 2008, 12:40:35 pm
1984, Anthem (ok, it's a novella), The Giver...

I really like this genre, however, for some reason I can't find many books in it. 1984, I think, is one of the best known ones in it. I'm considering reading either fountainhead or atlas shrugged, but I'm really not sure what they're about.
Any suggestions?

Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 17, 2008, 02:02:29 pm
Brave New World is really good, The Children of Men is also pretty good.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Oviraptor on February 17, 2008, 03:28:20 pm
I have no idea if any of these are any good, but here is a list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_literature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_literature)
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Little on February 17, 2008, 09:01:29 pm
I've read Children of Men.

It was really good, but seemed kind of incomplete. It had a good ending, but I want to know what happened after!
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 18, 2008, 09:33:43 am
I heartily reccomend A Clockwork Orange.

If you can get a hold of a copy where you are, as it was banned for a long time.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 18, 2008, 10:49:52 am
I heartily reccomend A Clockwork Orange.

If you can get a hold of a copy where you are, as it was banned for a long time.

If you are European, you can get it rather cheap from Play (http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/235235/A-Clockwork-Orange/Product.html). To my knowledge it is uncensored.

So many books to read, so little time.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Gungnir on February 18, 2008, 01:36:41 pm
May I ask why this book is censored/banned?
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 18, 2008, 02:33:21 pm
May I ask why this book is censored/banned?

My guess is the language and violence as well as the sexual content probably did it. I don't know for certain though, I am just basing this on what I know about the book. Mr. Consideration probably knows more.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: stuck on February 18, 2008, 09:26:54 pm
A Clockwork Orange was great, though I'd imagine it would be hell to read. They use a little of Russian slang, and if it weren't for my knowing Polish I would have had a really rough time deciphering it. But it was really good, so I'd recommend that. However, the central theme of the book was more of violence vs. obedience, which you'd probably have to read the book to see what I'm getting at. (SPOILER: Should citizens sacrifice their emotions and humanity, good or bad, and be nothing but a "Clockwork Orange", or should we place no limits on our emotions?)

The title pretty much gives the book away, though.

As for Atlas Shrugged, I never read the whole thing, but if you have the time, go for it. Ayn Rand discusses her Objectivist (?) philosophies in it with a storyline most of us wish to relate to.

Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 19, 2008, 08:37:18 am
The book was banned (In the UK, anyway) because of groups of people going around and imitating Alex's antics. It also features rape and alot of violence.

The NadSat is confusing at first, but towards the end you actually end up understanding most of it.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 19, 2008, 01:29:07 pm
I have been searching for a while and I can't find any mention of the book being banned. The movie was, at Kubrick's request, but that is an entirely different matter. There were some local libraries that refused to stock it but that is hardly a ban.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 19, 2008, 01:54:36 pm
Perhaps I'm getting it confused with the Movie. I just remember it being one of The Guardian's 'Banned Books' when I was a humble paper boy.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 19, 2008, 02:23:00 pm
Perhaps I'm getting it confused with the Movie. I just remember it being one of The Guardian's 'Banned Books' when I was a humble paper boy.

Reading into it, it is classified as a Banned Book (at least in the US) because it was banned from several libraries and some people wanted it outright banned. However, I don't think it was ever "really" banned, though there was defiantly an uproar about it.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Mr. Consideration on February 23, 2008, 05:30:45 am
I've just started reading Brave New World after attending a masterclass about Dystopia at a local school. I also got a free copy of 1984(To go with my other copy) and Blade Runner (The movie). Hurrah, Big Brother has rewraded my diligence!
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on February 24, 2008, 03:59:03 am
Indeed comrade, Big Brother has rewarded your continued success with these books. Of course you realize we had to take out everything that might excite revolution, so you are getting the bare bones versions.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: blitzonator on March 16, 2008, 05:52:50 am
I never really like dystopian time travel because it always makes a paradox, similer to the grandfather.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: martyk on March 16, 2008, 01:33:54 pm
I heartily reccomend A Clockwork Orange.

If you can get a hold of a copy where you are, as it was banned for a long time.

What's clockwerk orange about?  I recognize the name as one of the option books from English class last year, but I went with Farenheit 451...

...Which I heartly reccomend, even if it get somewhat surreile and hard to follow now and then.


Also, blitzonator, I'm not sure you're on the same track as us.  Dystopian books arn't about time travel.  Not nessacarily anyway.  I mean, I'm usre there are some out there, like the butterfly effect or whatever it's called.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: blitzonator on March 16, 2008, 02:58:23 pm
I thought the butterfly effect was about two girls who kill their dad for making them child pornstars...


Edit: Wow, see 45 seconds of video and you can turn ignorant as hell. Thanks.

Oh my prime minister, after reading that I have one thing to say, grandfather paradox utopia!
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Mr. Consideration on April 07, 2008, 08:49:43 am
Finished A Brave New World, loved it. Really, really liked the ending, and thoroughly enjoyed the entire novel. Beautiful, poignant and immensley well-written. Read it now.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: The Time Traveller on June 11, 2008, 03:53:32 pm
Doesn't the Giver have communist overtones?

Oh, and I'm reading BNW.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on June 12, 2008, 06:11:37 pm
I think I figured out why A Clockwork Orange was classified as "banned".

The last chapter of the book was omitted in the US release.

Also, it seems that most of my bookshelf is being filled by Dystopian novels. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Little on June 13, 2008, 05:08:01 pm
It means, sub-conciously at least, your a revolutionary and preparing yourself for the dark days ahead.

Big Brother is watching.

I'm getting Farenheit 451 on Monday.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on June 14, 2008, 02:30:18 pm
So that is what it means.

Also, Farenheit is very good.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Little on June 14, 2008, 04:44:04 pm
It sounds intresting, from what my teacher's said about it.  :)
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on June 15, 2008, 04:54:51 am
One thing though, if you like TV then it might make you slightly angry.

You'll see.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Little on June 15, 2008, 10:15:53 am
One thing though, if you like TV then it might make you slightly angry.

You'll see.

 ???

I don't like TV. I hardly watch it. I spend most of my electronics time on the computer.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Cool AN on June 15, 2008, 01:21:06 pm
You'll love it then.
Title: Re: Dystopian Novels
Post by: Little on June 15, 2008, 10:34:10 pm
 :)

Great  ;D